How a Non-Legendary Pokémon is Dominating Ubers

[@elianwyn]

"The main way you wanna beat Basculegion is in battle" You heard it here first, folks. The best way to defeat Basculegion is by battling it. Diplomacy will not work on this fish.

[@dankinmcspankin3123]

i audibly laughed

[@eieneidnf]

​@bradschaefer2387 but like the irl one not the one from civilization

[@butteredsalmonella]

This is insane, folks.

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

The fish takes no prisoners

[@jchadwick4918]

the Jim brainrot has spread. splendid.

[@elliotpp4271]

i wish dracovish was in this game too so we would have two funny fish running ubers

[@HenryZhoupokemon]

CB tera Dracovish in the rain is so indescribably stupid Im glad tho he’s not here

[@joebyne6061]

But think of the funny having Mr fish and his son fish wielding the power of his dads soul

[@edmarcuscabie134]

Tera water fisheous rend in rain is an actual nightmare.

[@lorenzozambrini2186]

​@@edmarcuscabie134 + cb💀

[@matteoc83]

252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Tera Water Dracovish Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Grass in Rain: 456-537 (102.7 - 120.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO Just saying that

[@Spyko-]

you know shit is fucked when people are starting to run the lvl98 tech

[@Aeirion]

No literally, that's a sign of true desperation.

[@inhenterprises]

What does the lvl 98 tech do to it? Edit: nvm I got to that part just now.

[@randomgermandude-x1o]

@@inhenterprises did you watch the video?

[@allgemeintoleranz2598]

@@inhenterprisesFor Trick Room Teams. If you Are min speed iv/ev, you Could get into a speed tie with the other one. If you Are Level 99, you Are Slower than the Same Pokémon at Level 100.

[@inhenterprises]

@@randomgermandude-x1o lol I was in the middle watching and just now got to that part

[@TotallyNotTheQueen]

Basculin really had a glow up, from forgettable to getting an evo that’s ban worthy from Ubers, let’s go little fish!

[@cryochick9044]

Someone should tell mr beast (he was a gen5 competitive player) that basculin would be the cause of ban talks in Ubers in 10 years

[@Thund3rDrag0n12]

And all it had to do was die!

[@timob1681]

​@@Thund3rDrag0n12 hey, that's a lot less work, we should give it a try

[@Ren_Ca]

​@@timob1681goat reference

[@emperorben1786]

Was not expecting to run into a Hamilton ref in the comments section of a Pokémon KZbin vid, this just made my day

[@jacobmorris6357]

"More niche options like sucker punch Kingambit" is a hilarious phrase out of context

[@chunkyrunky2366]

You never realize how important the dark bacon bird is until there is a ghost types running around

[@jaschabull2365]

Same with pursuit, really.

[@a.v.y8331]

I swear a huge reason Calyrex-Shadow got banned was the fact that there was no Yveltal around to deal with it. Otherwise there'd be significantly more counterplay against it. The other huge reason was of course Terastalisation.

[@SplitPushLoL]

clearly that wouldn't be enough if even turning tera normal isnt enough

[@a.v.y8331]

@@SplitPushLoL the thing about calyrex-shadow is it's too good of an offensive pokemon. if it tries to 1v1 yveltal, it needs to pack either draining kiss or tera fairy tera blast (or some tera electric/rock/ice variant). but this means that its other matchups are much worse. in order to maximise its value, you have to run sets that don't match up that well against yveltal. meanwhile, yveltal's basic defensive sets that function as a tanky control mon (toxic sets, roost sets, oblivion wing sets, etc.,) function extremely well against non-tera calyrex-shadow and against tera variants, tera steel/poison/normal makes it a skill matchup.

[@SplitPushLoL]

@@a.v.y8331 i was not talking to you

[@spectrummike]

i like the replay of a basculegion running through the team being able to be stopped only by another basculegion who gets to reverse sweep. i think it sums up the issue nicely

[@daniellejackson6543]

That reminds me if a similar scenario in gen 9 with calyrex shadow rider before dynamax got banned where calyrex nearly killed a whole team besides dying to another calyrex shadow rider. Btw I found it in a blunder video.

[@rooislangwtf]

The first one forgot to agility

[@spectrummike]

@@rooislangwtf i assumed it was Swift Swim

[@livingbeing4517]

​@@spectrummikeUnder trick Room

[@gokuworld]

Like back in the days when Mewtwo can only be stop by mewtwo😅

[@godminnette2]

Basculegion is definitely a salmonid, not a shark.

[@grandmastr2602]

And ya mama one of those too

[@aninass]

It'a a Barracuda.

[@anthonyk3952]

Alternatively, it could also be a type of bass; it's pre-evolution is based on a bass, and both of their names are derived from bass. But, like you were saying, salmon is also likely due to the male/female coloration (male salmon are maintain their red color during mating season, females becomes a white or grey).

[@AS34N]

🤓 "AcTuaLlY..."

[@noivernblast3366]

@@aninassit’s a member of the salmon family for sure Barracuda don’t live in river environments (Basculin and legion do), and don’t travel upstream to spawn (what Basculin does and involved in its evolution)

[@JuukaRock]

Ribombee and Basculegion out here crushing gods.

[@dengar96]

Little bug 🤝 silly fish Killing literal Gods

[@skullguy4863]

Mr fish, mr fish 2 and little bug more than likeky beats most uber teams

[@akshayreddy4071]

​@@skullguy4863what no yveltal and necrozma dusk mane does to a mfer

[@quantummelody2959]

Wait what's Ribombee doing?

[@skullguy4863]

@@quantummelody2959 sets up webs and stun spore before dying witch gives sped control for basc and vish to sweep

[@njivwathomassilavwe2056]

Press F to pay last respects

[@Finnerfinsterfin]

F

[@TLTheLegend]

njivwathomassilavwe2056 lost 100% of its health!

[@chatfulness03]

I knew last respects was good but i didn't realize it was **plus 50 base power, scaling,** type good

[@nathanieljones8043]

Yeah and if you want meme really hard if you use revial blessing it doesn't undo the buff so it can do 350 base power

[@Beast_the_smash_guy]

​@@nathanieljones8043what about 500? Two Blessings users and two PP berries (I forget the berry name)

[@Notsiphen]

@@Beast_the_smash_guyleppa berry

[@migo1559]

@@Beast_the_smash_guy yeah, it can happen. You can also use recycle with the leppa berry. The only cap sits at 100 fainted pokemon, at which point it's a 5050 BP move (for reference, this means a level 13 basculegion has a guaranteed kill on a level 100 koraidon, assuming you're choice band, adamant, adaptability and tera ghost)

[@tomsmithok]

@@nathanieljones8043I didn’t know this, I’m gonna try this out right now

[@galaxystudios370]

This just in: Last Respects has been banned from Ubers. With a 95% majority.

[@josidfin]

Thank you Mr. Fish

[@Rarest26]

no way big OU himself also f I s h

[@Poondaedalin]

There’s only a two-letter difference between “Finch” and “fish” Coincidence? I think not! :p

[@muk_is_superior]

Uh oh, big stall™ is here

[@GravityIsFalling]

Oh boy can’t wait to read this comment section that is definitely full of people who know and play this meta game

[@dankinmcspankin3123]

i will never play competitive pokemon but the analysis scratches my autism

[@strangeshotgun]

I have never played Ubers before nor used basculegion, but if he gets banned finchinator WILL be receiving death threats on twitter.

[@Gspoink]

​@@strangeshotgunHe doesn't even run ubers but will receive death threats anyway lol

[@grinderaj841]

I love how everyone is pretending this is dominating the tier. It's viable, but definitely is not broken in ubers.

[@Gspoink]

@@grinderaj841 post elo (respectfully)

[@Milesprowerthegamer]

I'm surprised it took this long for Basculegion to start terrorising Ubers, I always figured a Last Respects Swift Swimmer would be kinda broken even up in Ubers.

[@GhoulishCard1319]

i swear i also thought it had swift swim but it doesn't

[@RRRR-jr1gp]

Swift swim is trash because koraidon is on 2/3 teams overall and 8/10 high ladder.

[@Milesprowerthegamer]

For anyone replying Swift Swim is trash I commented that before watching the vid and finding out it had Agility to use instead. So even more broken than I thought it'd be lol.

[@richardhauer8391]

In this video you see Basculegion in trick room with a sub up as the last pokemon or in similar positions. With this much setup even base Ursaluna could sweep in ubers. It is completely predicable too: You see it team preview, so you can keep a relevant sucker punch user or choice scarf pokemon ready. I don't understand why "broken" is used so inflationary.

[@Milesprowerthegamer]

@@richardhauer8391 ...the video literally explained why Sucker Punch and Choice Scarf aren't consistent. With an Agility, the only scarfers that outspeed are Koraidon and Miraidon, you can't expect every team to scarf one of them right? Sucker Punch can be played around using sub, so that doesn't work consistently either.

[@wikipedia8193]

If I got a nickel for every time a mediocre BST water mon got insanely strong due to a broken move and synergistic ability I'd have 2 nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice

[@princesscrystal6410]

What’s the other one

[@megageorgeex7125]

@@princesscrystal6410dracofish, choice scarf, tera water, fiscous rend

[@Crttyt67]

@@megageorgeex7125swap the scarf for a band and add in sticky web support if you wanna really hammer in the damage potential

[@zotanica]

@@megageorgeex7125tera water?

[@ryans8081]

@@zotanica terastalize dracovish into a water type so it gets 2x STAB instead of 1.5x STAB on fishous rend. Oh and toss in Kyogre's rain to help while you're at it.

[@danielhale1]

I want to put this into context: *Ubers is now a harem anime where the regular-guy protagonist kills god* Plain everyman Basculin goes on a journey, where he meets all sorts of powerful beings and gets them to follow him. His life arc culminates in a massive glow-up, and he's known from then on as Basculegion. In the final confrontation, he loses all the people he loves, and stands alone against their oppressors. As these literal gods before him revel in their victory and taunt him, he calls on the lives of the friends he lost in one final stand. The gods were not prepared for the magnitude of his bonds of friendship. "NANI?!" 😂

[@RainbowLizardOne]

"I was a shitmon in life but I died and was reincarnated in another world and now they're trying to ban my super-overpowered cheat skill!?"

[@skkadoot9533]

he even has a love interest that is only there to support him and die so he can get a powerboost (ribombee)

[@HokutoDokuro]

​@@skkadoot9533 Horrible description. Take my Like.

[@jaschabull2365]

@@skkadoot9533 Rotom frost: Who put this fly inside of me?

[@KingKong11730]

Basculegion: The real Gods are the friends we made along the way **proceeds to 1-shot everything**

[@robbierotten2024]

It’s at this time we need our boy Yveltal more than ever.

[@shadowspartanzeta7]

My favorite pokemon

[@dengar96]

It gets OHKOd if basculegion runs band and teras. You lose to foul play in that setup but if you run any other item on legion and tera dark you win the matchup with last respects. There is no counter with tera in the game.

[@robbierotten2024]

@@dengar96 he said that Band wasn’t that good on basculegion and only works as a surprise factor tho, it’s not something you’ll commonly face

[@brightpowder_cena]

300 BP Last Respects still has a decent chance to 2HKO and Yveltal can't 2HKO Basc if Tera Fighting

[@robbierotten2024]

@@brightpowder_cena even with the heal from Oblivion Wing?

[@DanielMendez18103]

Man, ever since I got a basculegion in LA I fell in love with it. Not only is it a really cool design, it hits like a truck with wavecrash and now with last respects it seems unstoppable

[@douglanmar]

Why did you had to go to Los Angeles to catch a Basculegion?

[@DanielMendez18103]

@@douglanmar Legends Arceus

[@RikiazGaming]

I still can't believe in vanilla SV they banned Houndstone completely and not just Last Respects when they knew Basculegion was getting it too.

[@ZachPlum]

“Complex bans are bad bro just get rid of the Pokémon”

[@segafreak2000]

Nah, their logic behind it was sound. Even though they knew that Basculegion would get it, you have to consider that a) Game Freak has changed stuff between the datamine and the actual release in the past, so just because it had the move in the datamine doesn't mean it'd still have it when it actually released (see gen 5 Chandelure for example), plus, even if it stays the same, you can only test stuff once it's actually in the game and available. They knew all the time that Last Respects was broken. But you cannot also explicitly prove that while only one Pokemon available is capable of using the move.

[@TheKyubiisaan]

@@segafreak2000you’re making too much sense, we mindlessly bash council here sir

[@theschnozzler]

​@@TheKyubiisaannot on this channel

[@MaahirMomtaz12]

Basculegion wasn't available at launch so Houndstone was the only user

[@douglaspope-gz1eq]

Wow a non legendary pokemon potentially getting the Mega Rayquaza treatment

[@ebilgaming]

They won't ban the pokemon. They will just ban the move Last Respects in the same way Shed Tail is banned in OU

[@dengar96]

Basculegion is NU without last respects. Its a decent poke but not at all OP, it gets no other good physical ghost stab.

[@Mirawaru]

​@@dengar96 It gets good ghost stab in special moves (hex and shadow ball), wich is why the female actually ranks higher in the formats where last respects is banned.

[@daniellejackson6543]

​​@@ebilgamingI doubt it. Is houndstone broken in ubers?

[@vtmagno23]

​@@daniellejackson6543 No, but bans work differently in Ubers. Since Last Respects is the element that's banned to Ubers, not Basculegion, then only Last Respects can be considered for a ban.

[@banditrests]

Last Respects is less of an attack and more of a weaponized math problem. It’s not practical or even really useful to set up but its technical hard BP cap is 5050 for some reason.

[@PokeMasrerJ]

5,050 is a NUTTY Base Power lol. Saw in another comment the move keeps track up to 100 KOs for some reason.

[@mathisjacquemoud1149]

​@@PokeMasrerJ Maybe for Revival Blessing shenanigans ? But at this point it's just stalling the game for no reason

[@banditrests]

@@PokeMasrerJ Yeah, 5050 is 100 KOs plus the base 50 and it still gets boosted by adaptability/tera ghost/etc. It’s a really stupid move lol.

[@Mirawaru]

The move would be much more balanced if it still started at 50 but gained 20 bp everytime 5 faints means it becomes a 130 bp move, wich still makes strong enough to feel worth sacrificing your teammates for(it makes it a ghost type last resort basically, since you'relikely to scarf yourself in it to maximize damage at this point), but also it is not too op and can be easly tanked by just a resist, making it not that big of a crutch anymore.

[@naveenjacob2440]

I think gaining 30 bp would be for the best

[@sparktaylor8489]

Nobody talks about how Ghosts just keep getting better and better to the point I'd argue if they even get a quarter as much love as they did this gen in gen 10 they'll become the best type in the game.

[@grynnlecoprolithecosmique585]

The more time goes the more steel types loosing their resistance to ghost seems like a mistake.

[@craigyeah1052]

The rise of ghosts has been very interesting. It was a great type hiding behind a lack of good mons and moves.

[@Mirawaru]

Psychic should be resistant to ghost instead of weak due to exorcism! Who is with me?

[@MishKoz]

​@@Mirawaru Honestly at this point, with how overpowered Pokemon in the newest games can be, I wouldn't even mind if Psychic went back to being immune to Ghost like they were in gen 1.

[@unkarsthug4429]

​@@MishKozI'd kind of prefer if they just buffed normal so it was more viable. It being immune to ghost would nerf it by proxy.

[@saltlakeatrocity9771]

inb4 Basculegion was a trial run to prepare for the gen-10 cover legendary's 300BP signature move on a 680BST mon.

[@fvjisinferno207]

You are mean

[@nobbyfirefly57]

The taxis are struggling

[@zacharywooden2113]

The Kingambit vs. Basculegion matchup makes me imagine that they were childhood friends back home in Unova that always dreamed of becoming powerful, and drifted apart as time went on, amassing power and influence among their kind until they finally surpassed the previous known limits of their species, only to end up on opposite sides of battle.

[@Marcus-uz1mr]

epic

[@s.yashrithshrivarshan4695]

Feesh vs a litteral chess piece

[@blazie42069]

The fact last respects basculegion is more problematic than the already problematic Koraidon and Miradon is just insane to think about

[@Lzpoke]

I have heard so much the phrase "yveltal is not in gen 9" that i believe it was the only thing keeping ubers together.

[@daofficerofthenoodles7504]

I mean if the gen 6 legendaries where in gen 9 they would’ve probably be banned since Tera dark and fairy

[@galaxystudios370]

@@daofficerofthenoodles7504 looking at natdex ubers yveltal is nowhere close to banworthy xerneas runs tera electric/fighting and is on the edge of being banworthy zygarde runs tera water/fairy and can be hard to remove tera blast might push xerneas over the edge, it makes tera ground/ghost more viable

[@daofficerofthenoodles7504]

@@galaxystudios370 I mean national dex different competitive then gen 9

[@patroka]

Imagine going back in time and telling someone that Basculin’s evolution will be under consideration for a ban from Ubers lol

[@eightcoins4401]

Youre forgetting that this happened to Dunsparce before this. Dunsparce was a straight up bad mon pre Gen 9, Basculin just mediocre

[@dunderguys]

takes me back to the level 99 slowbro/king days

[@Rexir2]

It requires a good amount of setup to do, and your opponent can see it coming in team preview. It reminds me of a moody bidoof video

[@horribleville]

The amount of setup is having your mons faint lol

[@pointynives]

back in the day, TheKillerNacho uploaded a gen 4 video of a magikarp sweeping in ubers using flail at 300 power. Giving a significantly better pokemon a stab flail that doesn't rely on being low hp was always going to end like this.

[@pytron6693]

7:33 “wind blows, rain falls and the strong prey on the weak. All is as it should be”

[@LeonidasYT25]

Happy to see my ghost fish do good

[@modernkiwi6447]

glad to know Last Respects was always the problem instead of Houndstone

[@dzigayu4944]

It always was, I will never understand why they're so reluctant to just ban this obviously extremely broken move that was clearly not design with 6v6 singles in mind.

[@daniellejackson6543]

​@@dzigayu4944True but Hounstone is mid without it so what is the big deal?

[@aigis0423]

@@dzigayu4944I mean when houndstone was banned it was the only accessible pokemon with the move, but yeah I still think they should have just banned it to ubers rather than the pup itself and have been done with it.

[@pedrodarosamello64]

@@dzigayu4944 It's a question of banning logic. You can technically always say any pokemon is not banworthy if yout ake away its good moves. If you ban all moves from Rayquaza except Tackle it will probably be ok in OU, but no one will say doing that is a good idea. Now you say "well obviously you can't just ban moves like Flamethrower and Shadow Ball which half the mons in the game get, Last Respect is different". And the logic is to ask then why do you say it is different? We knew it was not going to stay exclusive to Houndstone so multiple pokemon can get it, making it just a generic move. If a bunch of pokemon use it and are not broken but there's one abuser, you ban the abuser not the move. So they waited to see if the move was broken or not to ban it over Houndstone. "Ho but it was always obvious it was OP on any mon, so we should have done it before" are we predicting the future now? Tons of stuff got called OP before being tested and found out to be fine. Ppl were clamoring for Ursaluna to be released already in Ubers FFS. It might have been obvious that the move was overtuned but rules exist for a reason and following them consistently is what makes the tierin have any sor of logic.

[@User-dyn]

Thank you Mr fish

[@boop53]

so we need a pokemon with high physical defence, a ghost resistance and a water resistance? WO-CHIEN NATION RISE UP

[@Playerofakind]

He’s finally making it out

[@firewall5189]

breaking news: wo-chien currently being scouted by the agency, updates to follow at 11

[@dengar96]

252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Tera Ghost Basculegion Last Respects vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tablets of Ruin Wo-Chien: 293-346 (78.3 - 92.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Its not a standard set on either poke either. If you have a standard SpD wo chien you get OHKO'd 90% of the time and no matter what set its always a 2HKO. There is nothing that can take two basculegion hits in the game at the moment.

[@muk_is_superior]

​@@dengar96 wo-chien only needs 2 turns

[@3days_left]

CACTUR- ig that works too😔

[@Eroil]

I hope it will get a suspect test and not a quickban, it may be problematic but it's not calyrex shadow level

[@shinymainespoon]

4:00 It's worth noting that Ghost-Fighting can hit ALL BUT ONE TYPE COMBO for neutral damage or better

[@the_myco_dad]

Ubers: “I am a complicated and elite format. Only the most skilled players can master my tier.” Fishe: “y’all got food here?”

[@gaminggranny1541]

The power of this funny fish makes me proud, taking what was basically a no-name water-type and turning it into a godly fish was the best thing to happen in 2022

[@xenit7837]

Singles players trying not to be rinsed by a dead fish every match:

[@Hitmonchu]

HUGE fan of this tyoe of long-form competitive analysis content!

[@CoralReaper707]

Basically, Dracovish's successor

[@TheWungus]

The fact that a combo of a bee and a fish that pays its respects is destroying stuff like zacian crowned and miraidon is hilarious to me

[@chosensamurott4907]

I love basculegion so much its so cool. Like it evolved from one of the crappiest pokemon its probably the best glow up

[@chrisbarne7458]

Love the new call to action animations, really professional looking

[@jaschabull2365]

So this thing rips apart armies of gods to avenge its friends they've killed? This fish just went full Kratos.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

It can 2 hit to 3 hit ETERNAMAX Eternatus. 252+ Atk Adaptability Basculegion Last Respects vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 284-336 (43.6 - 51.6%) -- 8.2% chance to 2HKO Meanwhile 252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Dracovish Fishious Rend (85 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Heavy Rain: 88-104 (13.5 - 15.9%) -- possible 7HKO Yeah… That’s a little more than Kratos

[@Quagsiregod]

Last respects is now banned in ubers

[@cryptic4762]

Also - a simple nerf to last respects will happen. It'll probably go +20 per fained ally, which puts it at 110 and comparable to thunder, hydro pump, solar beam, etc. I personally think that'd be WAY more balanced

[@TerraCrystalis]

me when hisui zoroark illusioned as a mon who resists wave crash

[@leopardbunny]

Personally, while I understand the Ubers philosophy of minimizing the amount of bans in the tier, I also believe it's an outdated one in a time where we now have AG and UUbers, and the precedent becomes more of an active hindrance to the format than what defines it. Ubers is no longer the banlist, it's the tier above OU, and I think it should be recognized as such and the ban should go through.

[@TLTheLegend]

"Basculegion isnt a legendary, but you wouldnt know it if you watch battles with it" *Proceeds to show an Ubers game that isnt a battle with it*

[@ernestomolina5254]

It also counters a lot of priority moves: Extreme Speed, Quick Attack, Feint ---> No effect Mach Punch, Vacuum Wave ---> No effect Aqua Jet, Jet Punch, Water Shuriken ---> Resist Bullet Punch ---> Resist Ice Shard ---> Resist Weak to ---> Grassy Glide (needs terrain), shadow sneak ---> Sucker Punch, Thunderclap (requires incoming attack)

[@koboldgeorge2140]

Bro they're straight up trolling singles players at this point and not even trying to hide it lmao

[@GetClippedLeague]

I will never understand why competitive pokemon is basically " that strategy is very good, so we will ban it" and its an endless loop apparently "lets create this category to enable banned pokemon to be played competitively... But we will still ban good strategies"

[@oscen335]

Stuff gets banned if it beats basically everything while being hard to teambuild for while not gimping your team. Stuff like lando, tusk gambit have good checks (water types, grass, no recovery, and there are multiple of those in OU) that are easy to fit on teams. Basc needs either a normal type(all are shit besides arceus) or a dark type to sucker punch mindgame(basc subs and 2hko everything that resists it)

[@GetClippedLeague]

@@oscen335 it still seems to me that one thing gets banned for "being to OP" and the next "its to OP it needs to be banned" comes out right after until you basically have nothing to play with and therefore you need all these categories like OU,UU,RU,UBERS etc

[@oscen335]

@@GetClippedLeague because the Op stuff usually keeps other broken shit in check. Broken checks broken is not a metagame thats healthy. The lower tiers are for Pokemon that are outclassed by others. Abomasnow is usually outclassed by atales at its niche so itll find a place to set hail in a lower tier.

[@lol101lol101lol10199]

"And this was the moment when Smogon finally... _jumped the shark_"

[@brennantmi5063]

I am all for a Basculin evo to join the elite group of pokemon banned from ubers along side heavy hitters like Wynaut Mega Rayquaza and Funbro.

[@-LastStand-]

Bring back pursuit, and suddenly there's a dead fish in the water. also a traumatized gold plated cheese stick dude that would look both ways on the OU street. "But noooooooo, let's delete Pursuit and leave ghosts unchecked!" said Game Freak.

[@10Gpixels]

Pokemon should really avoid using super-high-scaling moves like this in the future imo. The powercreep is ridiculous, and extremely unbalanced even in single-player. Scaling stats with abilities like Supreme Overlord is fine, because stat boosts already do that, but scaling attack power is just multiplicative growth in combination with stat and ability boosts.

[@costby1105]

There balanced around formats that don't bring Six pokemon. Last respects isn't broken in Battle Stadium Singles or VGC where it caps out at 150 or 200. Supreme overloard isn't very nearly as good as defiant in VGC either.

[@screwtokaiba]

Supreme Overlord is every bit as multiplicative as Last respect The problem isnt this math shit your thinking about. Its just the numbers is high. Respect gets 200% boost with 1 death and 50% with 2 death 33% with 3 and 25% with 4 with 1 death already putting it at earthquake level

[@10Gpixels]

@@screwtokaiba I meant that the power of a move heavily dictates the total damage output after stats, stat boosts, and abilities. I simply wish that moves that scale up in power like this don't become the main meta, because having various potentially 200-300 power moves could be a problem. My point with Supreme Overlord is that it doesn't define the meta, because it isn't nearly as threatening as having a sweeper ability in combination with Last Respects, even if the numbers are about the same.

[@CantusTropus]

Scaling attack power also can't be stopped by Unaware, removing one of the defensive counterplays.

[@screwtokaiba]

@@10Gpixels i agree with stats(if you add 100 bst to an offensive mon stats its about as good as Adaptability on a good 130 base offense and thats 1/6 of your bst budget even on Mythicals) but ability not so much since ultimately the way they affect the game is done exactly the same way. They both amplifies stats in the mechanically similar but separate bracket

[@DefunctResurgence]

Ribombee is really good, it can outspeed legendaries and knows quiver dance and sticky web

[@Vexal50]

Anyone remember back when SV came out and the OU council tried to justify why they wanted to ban the dog instead of Last Respects? The irony is palpable. Pretty sure they said if Last Respects was problematic on other Pokemon they would think about banning Last Respects too

[@otozinclus3593]

Well, they did that. Basculegion is NU, because Last Respects is banned in every tier except UBERs

[@nerddwarf]

If you're insane, you can get Last Respects above 300 Power Last Respects doesn't count how many of your Pokémon *are fainted* Last Respects counts how many times any of you're Pokémon have fainted. If you use Revival Blessing you can get Last Respects to count 6 or more KOs

[@devletbahcelino1fan463]

the fuckin basculegion vs basculegion comeback was hilarious

[@Wonderlvnd]

My dude back to the OG editing style with the Gen 3 music

[@TieflingInAJar]

I honestly love Basulegions design, its shiny form, and its move pool outside of last respects. Its a really interesting swift swim sweeper with some fun moves and a good typing. Its a shame that last respects is so OP and is the only real reason its ever seen.

[@zplazma5557]

Last respect is definitely getting nerfed next gen. +10 per faint on a 50 power move could still make a 100 power ghost move.

[@quiche6400]

Last respects being broken in ubers is so unsurprising

[@Thibbs-vp6gm]

So glad my king basculin is not only getting his spotlight but also his place in history with the chance of being sentenced to anything goes

[@jzpikachu]

and im left in the dust. i came up with this strategy day 1 scarlet and violet on showdown when i saw how broken last respects was. ran it with a rain team for swift swim

[@mjm3091]

We knew this would happen after whole Houndstone situation.

[@D-34]

Is a high speed pokemon with perish song or dragon tail not viable? could force it to switch out and attack around it until it's the last one left. problem with perish song being, you would need 3 stall turns/moves or 3 extra pokemon alive to take one shots

[@cryochick9044]

It feels like a few days ago it was in UUbers

[@symphomaniac]

Last Respects and the Treasures of Ruin reminding us that this game is balanced only around doubles, despite the entire game being singles

[@doublereel-real]

Simply play vgc format. Then surely everything will be balanced haha (I wish)

[@badslime6453]

@@doublereel-real incineroar is always watching

[@marcelopierre7330]

“Last respects+adaptability ” that’s how fast I can explain why legion is so good

[@recapdrake]

When basculegion was revealed I called this happening. If last respects was insane on a middling Pokémon it was always going to be ridiculous on a good Pokémon

[@mujigant]

5:27 I don't get the joke

[@grim_blazer9120]

As someone whose never played Ubers, let the fish stay

[@DharmaPunk111]

I love his design so rhis makes me happy

[@ozimantv]

I mean just use sturdy pokemon or focus sash? Yes it is strong but everything can be played around if you are aware of the possibility of facing it.

[@oscen335]

Cant you use that argument for literally any other pokemon and besides, if your running a pkmn with sturdy or sash in ubers, koraidon has scale shot

[@ozimantv]

@@oscen335 nope you cant. Not everything has counter play. For example, mega rayq. You see most things have counter play. The point where it becomes unreasonable to counter is when you need to dedicate multiple spots on your team to counter + if there are multiple such pokemon in meta. Mega rayq ban meta had 2 other broken pokemon and because you literally couldn’t play around them with only 1 poke rayq got banned.

[@oscen335]

@@ozimantv basculegion basically required every team to either run arceus normal or a emergency tera normal(generational gimmick) to avoid getting swept. The fact that every team needs to have arceus or rely on tera is already signs of constricted teambuilding. The only uber mon that has sturdy is archaludon and bringing other Pokemon with specific items just gimps your team. Groudon is also prevalant as a rock setter and removal is scarce in ubers outside of giratina. Last respects was a big problem, but the combination with hazards that enabled it just creates degeneracy that no one had fun with unless your were the one sweeping.

[@eazybuxafew]

It’s not the bass. It’s the last… respects

[@VaraNiN]

@5:50 The reason you run Bascu at lvl 98 is to be slower than lvl 100 NDM. At least that's why I ran lvl98 on my Top 100 Bascu team

[@c_drakhman1378]

To be honest, when i read uber, firts thought was about taxi

[@ommn0n]

when i clicked the video i saw the new thumbnail, im somehow one of the lucky to see the og thumbnail

[@daofficerofthenoodles7504]

I saw it too lol

[@GodzillaFreak]

Normal type challenge: Focus sash challenge: Iron defense challenge:

[@KR-wl5yd]

1. The only good normal type is Arceus which competes with Arceus Ground and Arceus Fairy which are both integral to stopping Koraidon and Miraidon (who guess what, you lose to automatically if you cant answer) 2. Basculegion is a late game sweeper. It wont sweep until the game is almost over. By then most mons will be chippef and hazards will be set 3. What viable Ubers mon commonly runs iron defense?

[@bigtoblerone8446]

​@@KR-wl5ydnot true the turtle is also a great normal type with an ability that gives a free substitute so it can do whatever it wants to Basculegion even if it does wave crash or runs tera fighting and Basculegion is water type with miraidon around and has to set up the agility or sub or both Chien pao sucker punch exists Great Neck electric version sucker punch exists (forget what it what it called, thunder clap?) Ursaluna is a great normal type too, especially in trick room which counters ability sets or just no agility being used at all Other miraidon and koraidon counter raidons Foucs sash and iron defense is usable just cuz people dont use it dont mean it dont have viability And tera normal stamina Archuladon with like body press and electro shot would be a great counter on teams with kyogre and Miraidon

[@jamesgiles4517]

​@@bigtoblerone8446 terapagos is below average in ubers

[@yeet8036]

Everything u mentioned gets destroyed by bascs teammates btw.

[@oscen335]

Focus sash when I scale shot koraidon Normal type when I low kick koraidon Iron defense mons when I miraidon

[@narkle9723]

Powercreep is one hell of a drug (seriously tho, how tf did the game get to this state, it's getting ridiculous now)

[@alecrutz956]

I looked it up, and apparently, Last Respects is a physical move. This pokemon's got a pretty damn good attack stat. Only making things worse for anything tanking the hit.

[@grunner7557]

Basculin saw how it was mocked in gen 5 and has come back for revenge. It wants blood, and by Arceus it will have it.

[@Gold-Dango]

Its like the Kingambit of OU, dominating in the late game, but decent in early and mid game

[@Verminator4]

They were on crack when they came up with last respects

[@CantusTropus]

It's balanced...in 4v4 doubles. In 6v6 singles it's broken in half. Game Freak just doesn't care about singles.

[@Tejroe]

Basculegion and Dracovish being the same color palette is icing on the cake lmao

[@golden_tonk8169]

Basculiegion: I see no gods up here, OTHER THAN ME

[@manofstars9777]

If I had a nickle for every time an ancient fish pokemon broke the meta I would have two nickles

[@homer23422000]

I think the water type is excellent, I put it as 3rd best type offensively behind Ground and Ice. Water attacks hit most types with neutral damage, which gives it a slight edge over Fighting type. Surf is the only HM that is competitively viable.

[@Michael_Raymond]

Always worth mentioning is that bans happen because of things that reduce play diversity. The question is if Last Respects is forcing everyone on the ladder to build certain ways, and if the resulting games play with enough room for skill expression. Last Respects has an inherent problem because it forces games to play out the same way every time whether it works or not.

[@obviouslyanonymous]

Is it crazy to say Arboliva seems viable as a counter? Immune to ghost, STAB on grass, and big enough SpA to be a threat if not dealt with (which will be hard when most of their other Pokemon are dead to buff Last Respects). Edit: it also outspeeds Basculegion in trick room bc of its garbage 39 stat.

[@typhlosion7872]

If Basculegion M gets banned, you then have Basculegion F. If both Basculegion forms get banned, Houndstone returns. Last Respects is the problem

[@oscen335]

There talking to ban last respects, not basculegion im pretty sure.

[@Neo_Bones]

Basculegion will be the next one to AG

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

Tell anybody from 2020 that a Basculin would be banned from Ubers, and they'd think that quarantine made you go mad

[@PhevieWonder]

Basculegion is good and all, but can it handle gastro acid focus sash galvantula?

[@dengar96]

With aqua jet and tera, yes it does.