French Trials VHS-F2 Croatian Bullpup

[@KirShizzle]

FAMAS: "Don't worry mum, G36 is just coming over to study." 9 Months Later:

[@DaLkalts]

@Merc Kitsuné avec les traitres à la Patrie qu'on a eu, c'est d'autres bourses qu'il faudrait couper :)

[@quantustremorestfuturus5434]

@@DaLkalts le FAMAS est daté. Le remplacer était nécessaire. Après, on peut discuter le choix de ne pas chercher à faire rester la production en France (sachant que la MAS a fermé) et surtout de ne pas avoir choisi ce modèle, qui me semble supérieur au modèle choisi.

[@erwannq]

My thoughts exactly. This gun is the bastard child between a FAMAS and a G36, so a bullpup AR-18 derivative. And it's so sexy.

[@thesaddestdude3575]

Atliest they had a beautiful child!

[@thesaddestdude3575]

@@erwannq Indeed

[@wraithcadmus]

The VHS rifle is, of course, not compatible with Beta-mags.

[@GewelReal]

We got a winner 😂

[@aesbj9228]

May I please interject "Touché"

[@thejuice5050]

Haha one for the dads

[@stevegoodzeck241]

I was waiting for a beta vs vhs joke.

[@sjoormen1]

@@stevegoodzeck241 Me too:-)

[@johndoe62804]

France: We improved FA-MAS, with heavy-ass multi purpose scope and HMD so that soldiers can shoot without aiming. Croatia: Bruh, no fancy stuff needed. Just modernize it man. Check this out.

[@kavky]

HMD?

[@shearprzeslica87]

@@kavky they are talking about the FELIN system for the famas which has a head mounted display (HMD)

[@MrDK0010]

If you put HK-style white and red selector markings on your gun, its perceived quality and performance immediately rises by 60%.

[@pcarrierorange]

With the pushpins, selector markings, polymer build, and buttpad, it really does pass for an HK bullpup.

[@sancota1]

@@pcarrierorange Don't forget the HK G36 mags for Croatian army issue

[@anemoia2661]

Want to know how you get the Universe to implode on itself? Laser etch high quality HK-style white and red markings onto a Zip-22... its scientifically proven that this is what also causes Black Holes to form

[@Darth-Nihilus1]

@@pcarrierorange it’s like a bullpup G36

[@ZenjihraShark]

I always thought it was made by hk until i looked it up

[@thinnedpaints6503]

Man, I've been hoping you'd get around to this for years. Nobody in the west seems to be covering it at all.

[@ivanivanovic5586]

Larry Vickers did on his channel, he praised it, couldn't tell just how high. We shall see Ian's opinion on it next time :P

[@cunicularius2064]

I didn't even know this weapon existed until I found it in Arma 3's RHS mod

[@Dekoi.]

Only time I’ve seen this gun is on the pc game insurgency sandstorm

[@antesosic1600]

Well sadly you guys in the west dont really have acces to it

[@ckrafty4]

@@Dekoi. I thought it was at first a fake rifle in insurgency. Such a cool rifle.

[@od6604]

State-of-the-art weapons. As a Croat and former soldier, thank you for this presentation of the Croatian Assault Rifle.. Greetings from Croatia 🇭🇷✌️

[@peroperic306]

Hvala na sluzbi buraz pozz iz Vukovara 🇭🇷👍

[@od6604]

@@peroperic306 Domovini vjeran. Pozdrav ✌️

[@Judenraus18]

@@od6604 to se trazi

[@GaryHamad]

By Design this is The Most Modern/Contemporary-Futuristic Rifle I've ever Seen, like you would only see this gun probably in Artist Gallery somewhere yet this thing Exist and it's GOD DAMN BEAUTIFUL

[@SzymonNatanRajca]

Same feeling here bro ;)

[@Goreratten]

I find this ver. of the VHS-2 to be the best looker myself. hs-produkt.hr/products/vhs-d2-ct-cal-5-56x45/

[@vedatozmenn]

@@Goreratten I don't know why but it reminded me of XM8

[@reyzephlyn105]

@@vedatozmenn Xm8 with a Halo Br

[@stephenmacrae1039]

I just want to hear that there is a civilian version for sale...

[@Grabbagar670]

I cross-trained with the croatian army while i was on a rotation to poland in the Army. We got to shoot their vhs-2. Pretty slick rifle. Its design is excellent. We need some imported into the states.

[@Harahvaiti]

Bemowo Piskie with Volcano battery?

[@Grabbagar670]

@@Harahvaiti That was them.

[@Harahvaiti]

@@Grabbagar670 as many here make VHS/Betamax/DVD jokes in comments, actually rifle could have been named HVS (short for Croatian Multipurpose Assault Rifle in Croatian) to avoid all that video cassette thing... this way Croat word for Multipurpose ended up first and many find the VHS abbreviation amusing.

[@Grabbagar670]

@@Harahvaiti I wouldn't mind if Croatia had Springfield do what they did with the XDM and have them make the vhs-2 in the states. We can call it the blu-ray2 for all i care, ill buy one.

[@Harahvaiti]

@@Grabbagar670 Exactly. I don't get it either why this rifle is not available in US market.

[@Dan3va]

It's an absolute pain when you take one out the armoury and the last guy forgot to rewind it

[@MrBioniclefan1]

LOL

[@mig1nc]

ROFL! Be kind, rewind.

[@bagortenay1822]

@@mig1nc that legendary movie

[@OriginalGansta88]

😝🤣😆

[@GunsNGames1]

This looks like a weapon Helghast would issue.

[@hypethekomodo6495]

Just needs a shotgun underbarrel and good to go.

[@aarondevaldez9134]

For the Glory of Helghan!

[@Osean_Kitty]

Helgan belongs to the Helghast!

[@jackmeyers7805]

Goddamn that just made me smile! I miss that series so much!

[@starquake8034]

Ah, a man of culture.

[@flimsedom]

This rifle is like a Swiss army knife. Well done, Croatia! 🇭🇷

[@foedspaghetti3290]

Ofc, Croatia is awesome.

[@Ebalosus]

Yeah, Serbia’s evil twin does admittedly make some pretty good guns.

[@MrYourfavoritezombie]

Perhaps it's a Croatian army rifle 😜

[@burneracc2567]

Had one in my hands (our special police is using them, less often than MP5s but it is what it is), really nice and light rifle and fits well in my massive hands.

[@foedspaghetti3290]

@@burneracc2567, nice. Looks like a better piece of kit than the one the Singaporeans make.

[@samrussell9264]

An ambedexterous Bullpup without alteration? It looks like they read every gripe about Bullpups and just fixed it. Strange that no-one else did the same. (Apart from you, FN, some of us remember)

[@GogglesAreAwsome]

And DeserTech with the MDR

[@saint-cetacean]

@@GogglesAreAwsome Well yes, but this did pre-date the MDR by a fair margin

[@crazyfvck]

@@saint-cetacean Both of my Keltec bullpup rifles are fully ambidextrous without modifications. One spits the cases out of the bottom, and one spits the cases out of the front ;) The RDB is fairly new but I think the RFB came out in 2008 or 2009, so it is 12 or 13 years old at this point. I bought mine back in 2012. But like you said, FN is the OG when it comes to fully ambidextrous bullpups :)

[@AshleyPomeroy]

It wasn't entirely clear if you absolutely have to realign the cam pin at 11:00 to switch sides, or if it's enough just to close the ejector port - if you have to switch the cam pin every time you swap sides it looks easy to drop the pin and lose it.

[@termitreter6545]

@@GogglesAreAwsome The desertech has a lot more problem with complexity (and unreliability) than setting it up for ambidextrous use^^ Tbf theyve been working on improving the rifles for a while, from what Ive heard.

[@quantustremorestfuturus5434]

Now that's a video I wanted to see: there has been a controversy about the choice of the successor of the FAMAS, and some claim that this rifle should have been the winner. And... well this video shows that this claim is really credible... this gun is gorgeous.

[@iannordin5250]

The HK16 only got the cut due to HK's incredible influence in the western arms market.

[@quantustremorestfuturus5434]

@@iannordin5250 If I remember correctly, it was officially because France was not confident that HS had the capacity to deliver all the rifles France needed. Diplomacy can be another reason...

[@pegzounet]

Iirc, the argument for the HK was that HK is much less likely to go out of business over the expected service time. Which has me going crazy, coming from a government that has ended its arsenals and did its level best to kill its internal gun market for decades.

[@quantustremorestfuturus5434]

@@pegzounet If a country like France makes any company's gun its ordnance, that company isn't going out of business any day soon. All of Africa will want the same guns.

[@boot_boy_6945]

I was thinking that the reason the HK was chosen over this had something to do with manufacturing or reliability. It seems like an amazing weapon but there are other factors to consider when arming an army. I wouldn’t be surprised if this weapon found it’s way into the hands of French special forces.

[@blacklight2488]

now almost every American will want it. In all seriousness I had this rifle in mind for a rifle to buy. I just wish it was available to be bought commercially

[@ownageeagle]

Sad thing is it wouldn't be difficult to do considering they already work with Springfield extensively. Have Springfield do the 922R work and they'd be good.

[@gerrymandarin6388]

@@ownageeagle I'm sure they'd do it if there was a demand, but I imagine this costing as much as a mid-level to high-level AR.

[@thechilledonion9313]

@@gerrymandarin6388 True. And, the Desert Tech MDRX has already took the last gen bullpups market in the US along with the Kel-Tec RDB. And, in Europe, it should be modified to fit the IPSC requirements to become remotely interesting to the main shooting community as it has no strong hand magazine release nor a quick bolt release.

[@ianfurqueron5850]

Only if I can get it with the grenade launcher option. ;-)

[@gerrymandarin6388]

@@ianfurqueron5850 With the right paperwork you can, but you'll have to be a FFL to get one.

[@jm9371]

Very cool gun... PERIOD. A lot of careful thought went into designing that firearm; I am impressed.

[@ajkulac9895]

What will actually impress you is firing on full auto

[@nathandanner4030]

Looking forward to seeing the BETA-MAX version of this product.

[@blahmagsjo]

Ah, you beta me to it.

[@_Majik]

Came to the comments for Beta Max jokes, not leaving disappointed!

[@TowerSavant]

Quite the mini-disss--k

[@synthgal1090]

Fuck I was gonna

[@Joshua_N-A]

BETA-MAGS

[@hyattbusbey3563]

Everything about this rifle is amazing. Simple, ambi, modular, good looking.

[@noel0733]

Croatia always make good weapons. Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹🇭🇷❤

[@Chalky.]

Take it to Somalia and you've got a VHS with the ultimate anti-piracy features.

[@zz3690]

Bro... 🤣

[@hellacoorinna9995]

🐸👌

[@Harahvaiti]

Now this is how you tell a VHS joke about this rifle. Respect.

[@pitmatix1457]

People over 30 "Hahahahaa, that's good" People under 30 "I don't get it"

[@carlbecklehimer1898]

🤣🤣😂

[@ZeOneGuy]

VHS has definitely come a long way, from video tape cassettes to a bullpup assault rifle.

[@hunglikeahorse120]

Hey just wanted to let you know that either autocorrect got ya or you had a typo for bullpup.

[@kristijanmajnaric4847]

lol

[@michaeltempsch5282]

Feature creep...

[@user-xj3ve7wt8k]

VHS means Višenamjenska Hrvatska Strojnica ( multifunctional Croatian machine gun ).

[@agontprevarator5214]

Multipurpose would be more correct

[@user-xj3ve7wt8k]

@@agontprevarator5214 naah, it has only one purpose. To kill... "function" and "purpose" are two different words with two different meanings.

[@introsense4495]

ⱆⱄⱅⰰⱎⰰ

[@draskopopovic9543]

@@user-xj3ve7wt8k true

[@huleyn135]

Hrvatska! And I was wondering why we called the Croats "Hırvat" in Turkish. Turns out that's the name in your own language.

[@MrCrazyharry1234]

I’m amazed that this rifle is not more common and not used in more often. It’s genius

[@termitreter6545]

Interest in bullpups is just not that big; and theres a ton of competition in the modern arms market.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

I guess nobody in Hollywood could import one to use as a prop.

[@jalpat2272]

you would surprised if you search little bit and found they were already at hands of various factions in Syria.

[@cptTK421]

It's made appearances in a few games past couple years, only a matter of time till someone takes it seriously.

[@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma]

@@cptTK421 It's nasty in Breakpoint. By far and away the most accurate ASR in the game.

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

Honestly I think this is hands down the sexiest bullpup I’ve seen in years

[@leolaspina3977]

Yes. And the Tavor micro

[@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k]

Thanks.

[@durlabhdautichakma7090]

The AUG is the sexiest bullpup imo 😂

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

@@durlabhdautichakma7090 to each their own, I disagree with you but I respect your opinion.

[@durlabhdautichakma7090]

@@jasonarmstrong5750 so do I 👍

[@ErikL727]

This looks very well thought out. An honest to goodness “next gen” rifle. Great vid!

[@mrbloodmuffins]

This looks like someone asked Magpul to make a Famas

[@kfeltenberger]

Yeah...but if they had, they'd have licensed it to some shit company like Bushmaster which would then go on to screw it up and increase the price by 40% or more.

[@stevenbobbybills]

@@kfeltenberger and then it would have had a limited production run or none at all yet still appear in dozens of video games, even decades later.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Is Magpul still alive? Rarely hear anything about them these days.

[@kfeltenberger]

@@stevenbobbybills And your point? Shit quality is shit quality and that's Bushmaster's hallmark. Everything they got their hands on they either refused to release it (Cobb series) or screwed it up beyond belief, and then if they did release it, they jacked up the price far beyond what they originally claimed. There's a reason Bushmaster earned the label "Bottom Feeder" during the ban years.

[@stevenbobbybills]

@@kfeltenberger ...I was agreeing with you. My point is that either they'd never make it out of development hell (FMG) or not make nearly as many as they hyped up (Masada / ACR) but their weapons would still find their way into every damn modern / sci-fi shooter game, in the same way that the Vector, AA-12 and Desert Eagle are everywhere despite having limited military adoption at best.

[@zvonimirsimat5178]

VHS means "Višenamjenska Hrvatska Strojnica" which literally means "Multipurpose Croatian Machinegun".

[@actualFix]

Vrlo smo kreativni s imenima

[@karlopavlovic3344]

Puška je zakon

[@Harahvaiti]

@@actualFix da se stavilo Hrvatska ispred Višenamjenska moglo se izbjeć sve ove video kazeta pošalice...

[@andro7862]

@@actualFix Napravimo pušku -> stavimo “strojnica” u naziv.

Onak, da se zna da more i automatski pucat. Jer to je nekaj kaj se valjda mora rec ¯\(°_o)/¯

[@ChrisB.C.]

This is probably the coolest modern rifle I've seen in years.

[@GunsGuy1990]

Love this rifle. Same as all Croats. Greetings from Poland! :D

[@Harahvaiti]

Greetings to 🇵🇱 from 🇭🇷

[@mitarmitramitramitar6740]

Greetz to you too, we love Poland! 🇭🇷🤝🇵🇱

[@phoenix9951]

greetings to Poland from Croatia 💟

[@littleking2258]

As a Polish Croat, seeing all this love for each-other makes me very happy!

[@phoenix9951]

@@littleking2258 Me too, pope John Paul ll sead that he is Polish Croat becouse he's from Krakow and that was antient homeland od Croats until we comed little furder south. Long live brothers ❤

[@user-njyzcip]

The Iraqis used this rifle when fighting the ISIS, and you could imagine the shock I received when I saw this unknown rifle in the hands of some Iraqis

[@edward5740]

Wait a minute...

[@MyILoveMinecraft]

I would absolutely love to learn how it did in combat there

[@xevox7927]

Along with the M4, this rifle was particularly effective in the urban combat that took place where firing distances would constantly vary.

[@maxcomis698]

Did they have any rifle grenades? I’d like to know how those worked

[@Womgi]

Ah that vice documentary

[@markmulder9845]

Most underated rifle ever. More takes NATO mags unlike the famas, and looks alot more wieldy than the L85.

[@quakethedoombringer]

From Ian's analysis, it seems like an extremely user friendly rifle. Unfortunately It came out a bit too late to become relevant, when the bullpup hype has already died down and most countries with bullpups are switching back to more conventional rifles (China, New Zealand, France, etc.)

[@cynicalfox190]

@@quakethedoombringer from what I understand, New Zealand and France are both switching away from bull pups more for political reasons than military ones. For example New Zealand had no preference for the bullpup rifle but oddly they selected a platform after ordering the rifle in 7.62 not 5.56 so I don’t think they are changing caliber to 7.62 I wonder why they chose a rifle that was built to fire the 7.62 over one built for 5.56. Whereas Australia has recently modernised its military with the EF88 Austeyr so it’s unlikely they will move away from bullpups anytime soon. As for France most of what I’ve heard is rumours but it sounded like a lot of their selection was political and not based on who actually won the trials. China I know nothing about not even that they were looking at a new rifle.

[@quakethedoombringer]

@@cynicalfox190 from what I have read, the QBZ 96 has some major issues concerning ergonomics and reliability and unlike European nations, China does not have the experience to surmount this issue, so they pick the easy way out by adopting a AR 18 platform. France definitely picked the HK 416 because of politics (HK has better lobbying power + France needs to improve relations with Germany to strengthen the EU). Not sure about New Zealand though

[@cynicalfox190]

@@quakethedoombringer interesting I don’t know much about the Chinese weapons or their procurement process. And as for the kiwis because of the ANZAC connection the kiwis have generally adopted what the Australians use and the Australians updated to the EF88 (essentially an Australian modification of the AUG A3 improved for specific Australian requirements) but the kiwis held a trial instead and chose a completely seperate system that is to my knowledge exclusive to the New Zealand armed forces the LMT MARS-L I would suspect much like the Australians adopting the M1 over the Leo2 this is to closer ties to America as the LMT is a modified M4 as least as far as New Zealand is concerned. Then again both the Australia and New Zealand special forces have always used M4’s or such style platforms so maybe they wanted to standardise across their whole military as it’s fairly small and not too difficult to restandardise on a new system.

[@sprescav]

VHS was the official '90s Blockbuster standard rifle.

[@JTTV72]

Originally the Betamax was superior platform but lost in popularity to the widespread use of the VHS.

[@WvlfDarkfire]

Wanted somebody to say that. Thanks lol

[@terranempire2]

Be kind reload.

[@mattzegarski3831]

I am shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, that Ian would like an ambi rifle.

[@muhammadnursyahmi9440]

Heh, a lot of left-handed shooters like Ian do appreciate ambidexterous rifles

[@markbecht1420]

Your winnigs, Monsieur

[@ASimpleIt]

The only thing I know of this rifle, is that its fun in Insurgency: Sandstorm.

[@goktug6855]

Vhs > m4

[@martingeygan8933]

Haha yep! And honestly I kinda want to see how this iron sight would work instead of whats in Sandstorm now

[@casualbear6295]

Probably my favourite in the game. It performs well at any range, and has the grenade launcher for just one point to top it off. Throw on a heavy carrier and you can produce more smokescreens than an entire high schools vape output.

[@eradicatormkivgaming]

You forget FC5 has also

[@automatonm99]

Great rifle in game I call it the crow for my loadout.

[@GroundGame.]

If an HK and a FMAS had an unholy night in the back of a quartermasters armory. . . we get this.

[@AzureRoseMarshal]

At least their child is beautiful

[@edwarddailey21]

VHS cause its obsolete right away 😁. I love guns but damn they have SOOO many guns that work and do that same thing.

[@Briselance]

@@edwarddailey21 Obsolete? How so?

[@edwarddailey21]

@@Briselance its a joke bro, don't get but hurt, if Ian's says its a good rifle its gotta be good quality, however like he said made in Croatia and a bulpup, will automatically make people/governments hesitant, lets see how many military's actually pick that up dude, don't most Slavic countries still use AK platform as well, probably a hella expensive gun as well.

[@Error_404_Account_Deleted]

I feel like the G36 somehow got a finger in somewhere.

[@ante4331]

Greeting from Croatia. We love you!! ♥️♥️

[@slavisasavic8457]

Sve čestitke, zaista imate dobru pušku!

[@thesaddestdude3575]

Thanks! I also love me!

[@ante4331]

@@thesaddestdude3575 thats sad man

[@thesaddestdude3575]

@@ante4331 Hah! I'm just kidding! i hate myself.

[@ante4331]

@@thesaddestdude3575 thats awesome attitude!!

[@filipruzic2792]

It's important to mention that the rifle has seen extensive combat by the Iraqi and Afghan sf guys as well as some countries in Africa such as Cameroon, by that said it can handle sand pretty well.

[@derbigpr500]

Soldiers in Iraq swear by this gun so much that they claim it's one of their main reasons for being able to fight off the islamists, they say it's indestructible and incredibly accurate and easy to shoot because of low recoil.

[@draskopopovic9543]

Wait croats where in iraq and afghanistan wars i thout it was only americans

[@filipruzic2792]

@@draskopopovic9543 can't confirm for Iraq, but they were Afghanistan, for a long time

[@StormFox_1]

@@draskopopovic9543 Nismo mi bili ali su puške prodane iraku.

[@EidolonSpecus]

@@draskopopovic9543 The rifle is sold in large quantities to Iraqi and other various forces as well. The Iraqi royal guard use the VHS.

[@jannicolaisen4671]

Well done, Croatia! Most intelligent rifle ever seen...

[@od6604]

Thank you Sir

[@HRVATSKA-re9pj]

Thanks

[@lolofblitz6468]

@@HRVATSKA-re9pjfor home ready!

[@MrKemby13]

Nice to see ppl apriciate products from my little country...

[@hariklarica5267]

@@lolofblitz6468 Death to the fachism, freedom to the people ;-)

[@avengermkii7872]

VHS-2 is like the king of modularity and ergonomics. That's a very nice gun

[@therandomvideoman111]

man the croatian military has some slick ass equipment

[@ljubicasmolcic7550]

Well we were forced to make our own guns because of embargo in 1991y war against serbs..they had everything and we had only hunting rifles. That's why today we are able to do something like this. It's like Rimac automobili and how he started in garage with old car ond electric motors from washmachine and now he make fastest EV in the world.

[@danproper]

@@ljubicasmolcic7550 Ne proizvodimo mi, proizvodi Rimac i ekipa iz inozemstva..

[@ljubicasmolcic7550]

Another one bites the dust..

[@ВаљевојеЗапСрбија]

Yes, they even had "srbosjek"...try to google for ultimate croatian weapon

[@svastanesto9277]

@@ВаљевојеЗапСрбија yeah!!! That's our favourite,don't forget your 🚜

[@huunamlee8286]

OK, pretty nice, but can this play my parent's wedding tape though?

[@FishLord413]

You're too beta...

[@bravo6959]

@@FishLord413 what

[@bowlofsoup12]

@@FishLord413 its a joke dude lol

[@error262]

I was hoping that the 2nd model would accept DVDs... we're stuck at VHS tho. Maybe they'll skip DVD and go straight for the BluRay

[@VMEMotor5]

@@bravo6959 You must be young.

[@BasedBelkan8492]

The average person knows one type of VHS Gun enthusiasts knows at least 2

[@PhobosTK]

Virgin Beta: Betamax, Digital Betamax Chad VHS: VHS, VHS-C, D9, SuperVHS, *VHS-F2*

[@user-njyzcip]

I think you grossly overestimated the age of the average person, on the internet at least

[@BasedBelkan8492]

@@user-njyzcip i kinda do To be fair i had to crack a joke quickly otherwise it would be somewhat overshadowed by other comments

[@PhobosTK]

@FRANMAS C'mon, it's a bad movie, but definitely not the worst

[@alecproulx2969]

The first time i saw this gun was on a vice video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJeyhoCjptCAn6M

[@ScorpioN-mm5pd]

Damn this thing is looking sweet, love and support from Serbia!!

[@nobodynoone2500]

There is something satisfying about symmetrical rifles. Also: That "metal" is Aluminum. That "plastic" is glass-filled nylon. You may even find a symbol indicating the plastic type somewhere inside the part. Nice to be specific where you can. Cheers!

[@flyfin108]

this is what made me check its weight, ty for clarification

[@the1andonlySherlock]

Now if only Springfield would start producing or importing them.

[@madkoala2130]

This is millitary rifle with full auto seting. I dont think thats legal in USA to sell on civil market, and HS does not care about civil rifle market. Springfield by today is hole lot of sh*t to begin with if they can't buy licence for pistols to make them (if they can not then why you Americans need to rename them)

[@LockNLoad777]

Yeah, I would like one with the 16 inch barrel.

[@Ki113r210]

@@madkoala2130 pardon? I mean they do, kinda, care about the civilian market. As he said, Springfield imports the hs2000 as the XD series or gun specifically for the civilian market. Tthe VHS seems trivial to make a semi auto version and would likely sell well here.

[@madkoala2130]

@@Ki113r210 those are pistols and we here in croatia arent that intersted in focusing in one market (and we are REALLY LAZY) and this rifles is advertised as MILLITERY RIFLE and i dont know about import policy in US but did you ban import of most of foreign rifles (Type 95/QBZ-95).

[@Ki113r210]

@@madkoala2130 which is a real shame because you guys make interesting stuff ( I have a php mv) the wacky work around is if Springfield buys the rights to the gun in the US they can bring it in without issue cuz now it's "a Springfield gun"

[@muggypie8860]

This has got to be one of the coolest guns ever

[@Fika204]

All of Ians croatian fans: Senpain finally noticed us!

[@Morgoth-mq6bf]

Itekako smo cekali ovo jako dugo, vec sam izgubil vjeru. Now lets import it for civilian use in US

[@jansonharris2937]

That's funny right there.

[@ZP1993]

@@Morgoth-mq6bf Bilo bi fora i da naprave verziju za domaće civilno tržište. Samo naprave poluautomatsku verziju sa spremnikom od 10 metaka,i možda promjene ime u VHP (Višenamjenska Hrvatska Puška),da izbjegnu konotacije da se radi o automatskom vojnom oružju. Brijem da bi svaki ljubitelj oružja htio ići u streljanu isprobat je,neki bi je sigurno i kupili ako imaju dozvolu za pušku.

[@sviby100]

@@ZP1993 Civilna bi morala biti na 5 metaka. Tak sam moral dati papovku preraditi.

[@clongshanks5206]

@Gugljesmece Obicno are VPNs legal in your country?

[@shubhojitghosh69]

When FAMAS and G36 had a sleep over.

[@kaylt.7864]

Tbfh

[@Tom_-]

I found myself being really impressed by every element of how this has been designed. Nice one, Croatia!

[@deanhankio6304]

"I have a little pin.." "hahahaha" "My little pin can make my rifle ambidextrous in 2 seconds" "My apologies.."

[@manbabymonke]

He has too much power to be left alive

[@OTElron]

Unfortunatly not, although I was also amazed first. At around 11:30 Ian explains how you still need to disassemble the bolt carrier to change from left to right ejection or vice versa.

[@ChristopherGoggans]

@@Steinstra-vj7wl um, I'm pretty sure the DesertTech MDR is substantially easier. To swap your ambi ejection port, literally just swap the ejection port cover with the ejection port on the other side. It just snaps out and in using a latch on the side, and doesn't require stripping the FCG to manipulate a cam pin.

[@dariozanze4929]

@@OTElron Yup, switching the ejector port is a bit more complicated, but you can still shoot the rifle from both hands. This is really important in CQB because you find yourself constantly switching the rifle left-right due to corners.

[@SiSi-rf8hj]

With the grenade launcher you might say the VHS is a real Blockbuster

[@net-twin-de]

Finally you have this top Bullpup which in my opinion is one of the best Bullpup rifles ever build - personally I even like it more than any Tavor or Steyer Aug. This VHS V2 is extremely well thought out, absolutely reliable, good trigger and amazing accuracy. In addition, it is fully usable for left and right-handers without any disadvantages.

[@zackakai5173]

The problem was that by the time this rifle was trialed, it had already been made obsolete by the DVD-F3

[@ThePablo1911]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dorhocyn3]

Now it’s just Netflix and chill……

[@Isaac-ho8gh]

Nice lmao

[@croatiaboy11]

​@@dorhocyn3I think you mean the N&C-F4

[@Ostenjager]

“The perfect bullpup doesn’t exi-“ *VHS-F2 has entered the chat*

[@ulissedazante5748]

*happy francophilie noises*

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@ommsterlitz1805 an AUG mod? I'm not a fan of the AUG's polymer internals. Your FCG is the last thing that should be polymer! (Ok, maybe second to last. Barrel is the very last thing that should be polymer!) Seems to have a good trigger pull. Or at least significantly better than the AUG. More modular, with that slick UGL and big Picatinny rail sections.

[@universalrandomizer405]

Sorry AUG A3 is the best, imo

[@RonJeremy514]

@@ommsterlitz1805 I think F90 is not all that french, it is a Thales foreign branch that designed it. Thales itself is not particularly known for small arms, it is the more about technological stuff.

[@cmndr_superglue]

I'm a Kel tec rdb fan no long ass length of pull or crappy trigger. Plus less bulky with a simpler design.

[@webster7710]

"Aw, that's cool!" -Me at least three times during this video.

[@smiffersmaffer]

Croatia is known all over the world for its machining!! Their standard products they put out are like custom shop work in the states that’s how tight the tolerances are

[@i1bike]

@Ante D They cant stand to the mazohistic moronism of the majority haha

[@thunderbeam9166]

Normally I’m not a fan of the way bullpups look, but I’d honestly like to have one of those, that’s a sharp looking rifle!

[@unamericano]

I don't normally comment on these videos but this is just so elegantly engineered with so much quality of life in mind I can't help but admire it greatly.

[@lorax6001]

The d in the vhs 2d stands for "duga" (long) and the k in vhs 2k stands for "kratka" (short)

[@Pelmedeeznuts]

Thanks for the info, although I already know this before lol.

[@tomconneely1361]

Helpful. Tx.

[@kezekuhen6002]

I’m from croatia nice to see our gun’s in Ian’s hands 😂 🇭🇷

[@philla0076]

Kada bi barem recenzirao jos koje nase oruzje, mozda RT-20 😁

[@chrisreyes3126]

Croatia makes excellent firearms I own two XDs!

[@philla0076]

@@chrisreyes3126 Thank you, glad to know the they serve you well 👍🏻

[@savosavanovic2451]

@@philla0076 jesu li makar malo poboljsali trzaj na RT20 .Skoro svakog strelca optika posjece .

[@philla0076]

@@savosavanovic2451 Ne znam iskreno, slabo se nesto prikazuje u javnosti

[@zookwick]

This seems like an absolutely fantastic rifle. Good job on the designers.

[@advan0s]

This looks like someone would bullpup a g36c. Neat

[@thesaddestdude3575]

Fames: Hon hon hon! G36 is comming over for a croisaint today!

[@Chocolouf]

This is sad our politicians decided to go with HK to please Merkel, because VHS made a fantastic job with this updated FAMAS. The Croats should be proud.

[@guilhemrouanet1145]

Doubt they chose the HK to "please Merkel", it's an excellent rifle already used massively by our special forces along with the SCAR-L which was also trialed. But yeah VHS was also my personal preference.

[@user-njyzcip]

The HK416 was well proven, the VHS was used by the Iraqis in the fight against ISIS but hasn't been widely used by elite forces like the HK416. Also bullpups are on the way out, generally. New Zealand (which used the Austeyr, a licence-built AUG) switched to an AR15 platform too. But the decision to make half of their rifles so short with 10 inch barrels, especially after the fighting in Afghanistan, perplexes me

[@_blento_2637]

@plentyness that is very subjective opinion. I spent two years in ex YUGO wars and I would never trade anything for Serbian made Kalashnikov (M70). Whatever you do to her, it never stop shooting. And it’s not like Hungarian or Romanian AK 47 versions that, after you shoot two magazines, you lean and press the rifle against the wall in such a way that the barrel is hitting the wall, you will find yourself that the barrel can band on the side you lean on. I spoke recently with someone who spent over a year in Iraqi military, and they absolutely love VHS gun. It could not be jammed at all even in Iraqi desert conditions. Now, I did not have VHS in my hands and I can’t speak to it. It all comes down to reliability and price. HK 416 is absolutely gorgeous gun and for sure is one of the best. The same story what is better in real life goes with M53 (ex Yugo exact copy of MG42) and PKM. yes PKM is an amazing gun but we mostly fear from enemies M53 sound. 7.92x57 can easily kill you on distances up to 2000 m. The challenge with M53 besides being a bit heavier then PKM, was that once you start shooting, the enemy (Serbs) would look To identify your spot/position and then shoot at you with mortals. PKM never had that issue and that is why many people opted to go with PKM. But to choose between M53 and PKM, I would go with M53 any day of the week.

[@_blento_2637]

@plentyness - I agree with you on that point. But lots of those selection for 416 is coming from hundreds if not more years of experience for HK … whereas VHS company has been on market for the past 20 years or so. That is an a line with old British saying - If I don’t know what is good, I will buy the most expensive piece.

[@_blento_2637]

@plentyness I forgot to mention that The reason VHS2 exist is That original VHS gun has been prone to dust and sand. Croatian troops in Afghanistan reported multiple jamming on original VHS gun. That’s why VHS2

[@jnewzealand4677]

One of the most well thought out weapons I have seen for a long time, excellent.

[@clearlypellucid]

Man I love this company's products. The XD Mod2 is one of the nicest pistols I've ever fired.

[@j.h-j5j]

Such a shame that the French military didn't adopt this rifle.

[@t.b9582]

Many in the French military regret that it wasn't adopted. But even more regret that France doesn't produce its own standard issue rifles anymore. It really is a shame.

[@TheAceLewis]

@@t.b9582 I heard they converted the Felin factory into textiles that produces white flags. (THIS WAS A CHEAP SHOT JOKE I HEARD AT A CASINO AND HAD TO TRY IT, GET OFF MY BACK I WAS BEING FUNNY.)

[@fiditenemini2452]

@@TheAceLewis it's getting old...french military history is...glorious

[@floatingchimney]

@@TheAceLewis LOL

[@noobsaibot7006]

@@t.b9582 it is said that French soldiers preferred the FN Scar

[@Swindle1984]

I remember the outrage when Springfield teased a new product, and they had photos and video of the XD/HS-2000 and a VHS-2 in the background, and people got all excited that Springfield was going to be selling semi-auto VHS-2's in the US. And then they pulled the rug out from under us and announced the Hellcat. Which people seem to like, but the sheer salt from all the people who got bait-and-switched was enormous.

[@Klyce]

Well apparently they just submitted a request to import to the ATF. Maybe they intended to announce it but had yet to submit the work.

[@Swindle1984]

@@Klyce The Hellcat and their bait-and-switch announcement came out in 2019. That's two years between teasing us and submitting the request.

[@calvinreeder7580]

@@Klyce Really? How do you know that?

[@shawnpatten6515]

They posted VHS tapes to their Instagram today….it’s happening!

[@deedee4531]

The next model is called DVD-ROM F3

[@stevenbobbybills]

Can't wait for the Blu-Ray F4.

[@GaryHamad]

Stop y'all I need to breathe

[@Joshua_N-A]

@PC_Modder first time subscriber will be given free ammo for 30 days.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Mini-Disc F-C (c for compact).

[@TheMostSteelDooshbagEver0451]

The third is Netflix F4

[@michaelw2263]

Does it at least rewind itself? That's of huge importance to me

[@nolategame6367]

Of course, just set it to semi auto

[@metalbob3335]

Be kind rewind

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Ooh! Imagine hitting a rewind button and ending up with a magically refilled magazine?

[@PhycoKrusk]

This is one of the coolest rifles I've seen. The fact that it can be disassembled without tools (apart from an unfired cartridge) and even switched from left to right hand in the field in a matter of minutes is excellent. Now, we watch the range video and see how it actually shoots. Maybe it's bullpup done right?

[@jamesallred460]

Dayum, that thing looks like it should be in a star wars show or movie cause it's sci-fi AF! Great vid as always Ian!

[@10mmlover]

It was actually. I first saw it in the Hobbs and Shaw movie.

[@MandalorV7]

You are right. But it’s sort of funny how a lot of Star Wars blasters are modded World War area guns, or older. Think the Sterling was the most modern firearm used as a prop at the time of filming.

[@jamesallred460]

@@MandalorV7 totally. But honestly that just makes me want to see this one in there even more cause it bucks that trend.

[@Jacob-pu4zj]

To me it bears a passing resemblance to the FR-27 Sanction Flechette Rifle from the newer Deus Ex games, except the gun in the game doesn't use STANAG magazines, it breaks open like a coach gun and you put in a little box of ammo in the back.

[@jamesallred460]

@@Jacob-pu4zj I haven't played deus ex. Are they good games?

[@cerealata9035]

Oh, cool. A new upload from Forgotten Weapons, was wondering why the comments below are minutes old. -Looking forward to Ian shooting this gun at the firing range, by the way.- Yay, VHS shooting day tomorrow, thanks Ian!

[@aidanpysher2764]

This is one of the coolest looking rifles I've ever seen. I'm seriously wanting one of these.

[@smith5796]

The cams on that HS VHS are simply outstanding.

[@oskarswanson5114]

Hands down my favorite rifle and definitely my favorite bullpup from a design, technical and engineering perspective. Such a beautiful piece of kit. I hope I get the joy of firing or owning one one day 🤞🤞🤞

[@MattyLight30]

We need this in the States like yesterday

[@fivizzano]

I heard the ITALIAN special forces almost ordered this thing as its extraordinarily versatile ... VERY IMPRESSIVE !

[@nl800]

Good luck on Sunday in the Final of the Euros! I hope for a good football matchup! Grettings from you neighbour country Croatia/Croazia! Fratelli 🇭🇷♥️🇮🇹 🔴⚪🔵 ♥️ 🟢⚪🔴!!

[@quakethedoombringer]

Pretty sure Beretta has lobbied hard to make sure that will not happen

[@fivizzano]

@@nl800 Ciao Croazia !👍❤️

[@nl800]

@@fivizzano FORZA ITALIA! FORZA AZZURRI! Grazie from Croazia! 🔴⚪🔵 ♥️ 🟢⚪🔴

[@nl800]

@@fivizzano Congratulations to Italy/Italia for winning the Euro 2021! Also respect to England for a nice game! Grazie fratelli from Croazia! 🇭🇷♥️🇮🇹

[@rhythmray7429]

this is literally one of the most aesthetically pleasing gun I've ever seen

[@CzechoslovakGunStories]

very nice setup... thumbs up to our Croat brothers! :)

[@diligentone-six2688]

FAMAS: Who are you? VHS: *The better version of you.*

[@SLAD3]

Correction: Death

[@ScottKenny1978]

VHS: Your niece from Croatia.

[@asteroidrules]

I'm you, but Hrvatski.

[@SLAD3]

@@lostalone9320 why is that so specific

[@thomasherzog2172]

L85: hElLo! i'M a rAifl

[@dogofwar6769]

That rifle looks amazing. I can't wait to see how well it shoots.

[@jackal_9791]

Didn't expect the grenade launcher to be so quirky. 9:06 is heavenly.

[@kennethbowers2897]

This is one VHS that you prefer over a DVD player *wink wink*

[@thesmallestminorityisthein4045]

Initial opinion: it looks a bit wacky, but I'll hold out. After: alright, i like it. Id certainly complain about the LOP if it was issued to me, but everything else seems pretty great. Props to them for a good design, especially that launcher.

[@jttanker2985]

Nice coverage as always, Ian! The ejection port cover pin also works as a takedown tool, the Croatians are definitely a clever bunch!

[@igorsvacic217]

This is a REALLY well tought design. Proud of guys that designed it. And proud tat my country can produce something worth having. PS. You guys ever tough about reviewing our RT-20 or its later version RT-20M one ? Now, thats a forgotten weapon.

[@Th3UnluckyGam3r]

God, I've been waiting for this one for years. Been visually one of my favorite rifles for a long time. Still holding out hope there will be a civvie version at some point

[@eugensabati2698]

Im really proud you did a video ony my country's rifle, i hope that the world will see this and we will be more acknowleged throughout the world. Hope you enjoy shooting it! And for the people in the comment section, VHS is shortened for Višenamjenska Hrvatska Strojnica, translated in english, multi-purpose croatian assault rifle :D

[@robertwarner5963]

Many clever internal parts. Croatians thought outside the box.

[@Asghaad]

it looks good but what i cant understand is why they put humongous oprod to cycle with the bolt (and add to the recoil) and made the gas piston so short. It kinda defeats the purpose and advantage of the short stroke system when they could have easily have longer piston pushing directly on the bolt without being a part of the recoiling mass. at this point they might as well make the gun long stroke ...

[@saff3356]

@@Asghaad kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3e1c5qhhtiAm5I

[@Asghaad]

@@saff3356 so, what is it you wanted to say here ? From watching that video it has quite a bit of recoil for inline 5.56 system. im not saying its bad, what im wondering is why they went with short piston/long oprod instead of long piston and no oprod. Reliability? weapon balance? rate of fire reduction ? there must have been a reason to make the bolt assembly heavier.

[@saff3356]

@@Asghaad for reliability

[@CKshouta]

High carrier mass to bolt mass ratio is good for reliability. Having a long ass oprod is akin to telescopic bolt that smgs like uzi used, to increase mass. Large piston size also helps with part durability.

[@pawemarcinjurkowski1491]

Finally, VHS 2 is one of most interesing guns i've ever seen

[@imadequate3376]

I am excited you got to take a look at this! They are a pretty obscure yet excellent rifles

[@Ivanovitch2885]

Usually a weapons system takes years of fine-tuning to make it intuitive and multi-functional. Seriously this rifle looks like it took at least 10 years to get where it is. Pretty impressive. I'd buy one.

[@yt.602]

What an incredibly tidy design. Someone must have spent quite a long time thinking that through.

[@rmblwgn]

LOVE THE "TUBULAR" LOOK OF THE RECEIVER!!! The HK style red/white indicator markings are the icing on the cake

[@lovro4862]

Finally. Greetings from Croatia 🇭🇷

[@thorphinnskull-splitter7602]

Bet this was a great video for you. Hold your head high with country pride. Fantastic looking rifle.

[@lovro4862]

@@thorphinnskull-splitter7602 Tnx man.

[@earthenjadis8199]

The LD-F3 looks to be an improvement on this model but most users consider it too big and unwieldy. I hear rumblings of a fourth generation prototype mysteriously designated as "DVD".

[@Ramstaandy]

I remember hearing about some sketches for a fifth generation, but it apparently got them in legal trouble with Sony. Strange world.

[@delphium]

The ambidextrous bolt and cam procedure was quite interesting. The VHS takedown and disassembly made me appreciate the simplicity of my FN FS2000 more

[@powderskier5547]

Got to correct you slightly, Croatia manufacturers a lot of high quality stuff, not just arms but so much other stuff. They are perfectionists in everything they produce.

[@keyhole9601]

I got the chance to try one of this rifle, very cleaver design, very accurate and reliable rifle, very well made rife . Just the gas port has no suppressed position, you have to change the valve.

[@drgeoffangel5422]

An exercise in how to design and make an extremely ergonomic and flexible rifle system , for right or left hand users, and as was shown, part of a modular concept of a "Family of rifles", with interchangeable parts. Kudos to the design team of this rifle, that were given a difficult design specification to fulfil!

[@ab5olut3zero95]

These are pretty cool rifles. I’d love to get my hands on an import model.

[@nutball3756]

@Gugljesmece Obicno Yeah unfortunately