Friday Night Live | Friday Night Live | Depp v. Heard Juror Speaks? Therapist Notes?

[@NurseLiz]

Hi Emily! To clarify the mandated reporter thing, mandated reporters only report on abuse of children, older adults, or adults who are considered vulnerable (mental or physical impairment). You don’t report abuse for non vulnerable adults unless they consent. I’ve had so many people admit abuse to me that I couldn’t do anything about because they did not want it disclosed. Hope that helps answer that question!

[@susanpower514]

Concur - I'm a mandatory reporter in California. Children, elders or vunerable adults.

[@jlseagull2.060]

But she has mental diagnoses. Isn’t she considered mentally challenged and vulnerable?

[@alexashton6501]

@@jlseagull2.060 If that were the case, 99% of the world would be classed as vulnerable and mentally challenged. Personality disorders do not get legally classed as vulnerable in the same way developmental disorders do.

[@Emma-fc3fh]

@@jlseagull2.060 vulnerable adult generally means elderly with say dementia, or an adult with learning disabilities

[@Kiterpuss]

@@jlseagull2.060 So a vulnerable adult is a legal adult, usually defined as between 18 and 65, who does not have the mental/physical capacity to advocate for themselves. The fact that Amber was able to physically get to a medical appointment and discuss her alleged abuse with another adult is enough to demonstrate capacity. The fact that she brought a lawsuit is even more so.

[@ecpracticesquad4674]

When AH came forward, JD was basically cancelled and her career took off. The “backlash” came when JD started fighting back and AH’s story began falling apart.

[@ecpracticesquad4674]

@@ivym727 me too. They pushed back on some points, but they let her speak out of both sides of her mouth too much. They also didn’t do a very good job explaining way things like her therapist’s notes or the texts to her dad weren’t admissible in court. It implies that she does have evidence that was kept out when she really doesn’t.

[@RobertaNicholson1374]

She uses “backlash” and “consequences” synonymously.

[@veronicaperez-rx5ef]

@@ivym727 the interviewer definitely knew what to say. She let Amber dig her own hole deeper. Without the viewers saying “she cornered her.” Nope she did it herself.

[@pamelahawn9300]

When she first came out when many other celebrities came out I did believe her. I loved several og JD's movies and think he is very talented. Like I always advise! Document,document, and document that is the Only way to win in cases like these. I think the penalty for perjury should be added to judgements like this. I also think all victims should be able to request th DA to punish Personality Disordered people from these wastes of court time and the Lawyers who promote it too make more money to

[@pizzabandit1518]

The therapist notes were hearsay. If those were allowed, Jennifer Howell’s full deposition and the Australia audio would also be allowed from Johnny’s side, and those were far more damning.

[@eclaire_x88x]

Exactly

[@LolaClo]

She was planning this since the beginning! Just like freezing embryos with Elon Musk after weeks, months together. Cunning!

[@biancaenera2500]

We must be clear, a lot of notes is impossible to know who she was talking about. It starts with the ex-wife and go on who knows for how long. Possibly she could have in mind to frame that woman, too. How can this be a proof of what? I'm tired, I am triggered in PTSD by AH and I don't know her. Can you imagine to be her partner? Must be hell to be stalked all over the world and you can't escape. Come on it's time for the people to take away this power she has to make "the news" 😥

[@manbearpig7521]

Did he kick her on the plane?

[@liseklerekoper2441]

Yep, well said.

[@Mrs-EdB]

I have been on a jury in England on a SA case and we took everything seriously. We didn’t look at any media or social media. All we wanted to do at the end of the day was go home and wash of the dirt of what we had heard. It is really insulting that she comes out with the BS against the jury.

[@miriam9419]

I 100% agree with you. It says a lot about their character because most people would take being on a jury incredibly seriously. I know I would follow instructions to the best of my ability and the vast majority of people I know would. It says so much about their character that they wouldn't take this seriously, it doesn't say anything about the jury. Thank you for being such a fantastic jury member when you had the chance.

[@hc7873]

What I really, really don't understand is that notion that normal people can't avoid social media. For someone that claims she can read in the midst of a film set, it's either condescending or plain wrong

[@beatrixkiddo5]

Did they offer you any support or therapy type suggestions after the conclusion of the case? Praying you're not traumatized 💕

[@Mrs-EdB]

@@beatrixkiddo5 no, no support given after the trial. Not going to lie it was tough but I was not traumatised. This was a few years ago, I don’t know if they do now. x

[@FabiolaRVela]

Yes and I also find it deeply offensive that she suggests the jury would have been swayed by tik toks??? Like really?? 😒 as if tik toks we’re stronger than the evidence they saw at the trial 😂

[@dominaevillae28]

Camille: "This is a woman who burns bridges." UnCivilLaw: "Which is unfortunate because, as a troll, she needs to live under them"

[@traciewright11]

Too funny!!!

[@misss_melisss]

😂😂

[@fionamoran7024]

🤣🤣🤣

[@LoriLulu]

Where in the world did you come up w this one? Hilarious!!!

[@JustMeeDina]

@Dominae Villae, LMAO 😂 TRUE-true! Love it!

[@portraitbyelise2309]

She's wrong, when she has first spoken up the world was on her side and turned its back to Johnny. No backlash. Nothing bad happened to her, the opposite actually. It took 6 years and a televised trial for the world to turn against her because she was seen repeteadly lying under oath.

[@shredhed572]

That's what I've been saying With the tro, no backlash I was aware of. Op ed claiming backlash? Nope. No backlash then either. Her claiming it now just shows her level of depravity. She will litterally say anything

[@English3Muffin]

I think her pride clouds her reality. She had overwhelming support, but there were definitely people that didn’t believe her in the beginning. Probably most if not all just random people online. I genuinely think that’s what she’s referring to. That ANYONE doubted her at all still fits into her narrative, even if it was a small collective on the internet that no one was listening to.

[@equatorialjourney4478]

You must be living in a bubble . The backlash against Amber has been in full gear ever since the divorce when he appointed Waldmann as his lawyer . A 6 yr long vicious concerted campaign to trash and discredit her . It reached its zenith during UK trial and has snowballed, multiplied by 1000 since then . He committed o humiliating her in 2016 and that’s exactly what he has done for 6 long long vindictive, vengeful years . He couldn’t buy Amber’s silence , like he did w all his other exes , & revenge has been his MO ever since . Her OpEd has been proven 100%

[@mizconti]

I totally went into this trial neutral. I assumed there may be some abuse. Side note, I’d never heard of this chick until she divorced Johnny and her odd depositions came about. But have no recollection of seeing her in movies I’ve seen where she was at least a principle role. As soon as she testified, heard the audio and her over the top report of horrific violence … I was like damn. She’s crazy and the aggressor.

[@mitsukitai2713]

Don't bother with user Equatorial Journey; they've been replying with nonsense to many comments

[@honeyglamour]

Replay crew here. I literally got full body chills when you shared the story about another DV victim giving her abuser bullets because it so closely resembled a story my mother shared with me about her own abuser before she married my dad. This man, whose name we never utter, had hurt my mother so badly she ended up in the hospital multiple times and to this day she has nightmares about him even though it’s been over 30 years. Thinking about what Amber has constructed these past 6 years with all of her lies, knowing the terror my mom and other survivors have experienced, is nothing less than despicable. PTSD is not a dress you can slip on and off, its symptoms are not something you can choose when and where to feel or emote. I know because I have watched my mother deal with it all of my life. I pray that no one ever has to endure what my mother did or what Amber had alleged. I am so thankful the jury believed Johnny and horrified at the audacity she has to assume this “role” of a DV survivor.

[@rachaelroessler9978]

Beautifully put 🙌

[@commonsense571]

🌱🌷🌱

[@lillianfortuin2983]

@Allie..yes heartbreaking story. Happy that your mom is a survivor 🙏🙏 and then AH can't understand why she wasn't the perfect victim cos she went through the crying and facial expressions.. which was a bad performance of a lifetime. Cos she couldn't connect to the real experience and feelings of how it felt when it "happened" to her. She still can't believe that people thought her acting was that bad. All she did was pull ugly faces. Blessings to you and your family ❤️❤️

[@saraturner8657]

❤❤❤❤💪💪

[@Karamelaki]

💯 Exactly. She could be emotional and then cold as Ice within the same second. How !?

[@cscotet4202]

Amber: "Look at me when I came forward." Yeah...as Emily said, L'Oreal endorsement, bigger movie parts, magazines(publicity) and you were CELEBRATED as a survivor and as someone who had the courage to speak out against their abuser. I find it odd...odd isn't the right wording either....but JD was 'punished/shunned' for 6 years...and You(Amber) haven't been able to go 2 WEEKS without looking for sympathy and trying to spin this and blame everyone else for your current situation.

[@hazelhadley-britt6396]

She also became a voice in the UN etc.

[@bernadettecallinan4139]

YES!!!

[@iqramalik8114]

She also got a hefty divorce settlement that she probably wouldn't have gotten otherwise considering she was cheating on her husband.

[@yolandawilson9852]

Not sure if this was said but she was getting 33k per speaking engagement. She is just too much. Smh

[@PamaRosa]

I am confident that she's in deep doggy doo...this is inflammatory again, I'm so p.o.ed as a survivor, it has absolutely no ring of truth, she described this confrontation in Australia as if she were a action hero.! Absolutely 💯 Crap.

[@SavannahElizabeth]

I was on a jury for a civil case and I took it very seriously. 3 of us were screaming at each other during deliberation because there was a fact we were told not to take into consideration with the verdict and one of the jurors refused to ignore it. We couldn’t reach a decision and I went home in tears from being so frustrated.

[@TaoScribble]

Yeah, jury duty is rough. The one time I was on I only served as the backup and it still stressed me out. The actual trial lasted all of one day, for maybe two hours. I wasn't even part of deliberations, but just the gravity of the whole thing (some manner of assault vs self-defense, I think) gave me a wicked migraine and left me drained. Didn't even look back into it to see what the other jurors voted, honestly.

[@origamikiddo2625]

Usually when I'm called for jury duty it was while I was in school or working as a teacher so had to find a sub and I never wanted to be picked. The last time was after Christmas, like the 28th, and I had both my spouse and relative to help watch the kiddo. We thought it would be a DUI cuz that's usually what our small town with a state road running through it has, but it wasn't this time. Defendant was female and I have a relative who is in law enforcement so I realized both sides probably wanted me on that jury. By that time I wanted to be picked so bad. I was the last juror and trial lasted a day and a half, deliberation a couple hours. Very interesting. The hardest part is not talking to anyone about it cuz that's how I think through and process stuff. Next time I will def journal to help dump info from my brain so I can sleep better. I asked if we were allowed to take notes but judge said no. I can see why, but for those long trials that has to be so difficult. I would love to be a juror again.

[@Padraigp]

Isn't there an arbiter ? Like. When you're not sure of something there's a guy you can ask if you don't know what an instruction means. Or there's confusion about something related to the court instructions. They can't advise you on the judgement but they can tell you about court procedures no?

[@Padraigp]

​@@origamikiddo2625dont you have acsess to all the evidence and testimony transcripts at the end so you can check back? I assumed you would have everything to look at and read back in case one person remembered differently.

[@SavannahElizabeth]

@@Padraigp there was but the person didn’t care to listen to the instructions. They wouldn’t be swayed.

[@eileencraig8160]

I was on a two week jury trial that would have been the largest injury payout in Kansas state history. We were able to go home nightly. Of course no media. You do take it very seriously! We found in favor of the defendants. Know it was the correct decision. I feel proud to know justice was done, & felt good to be a part of it. Feels great to be an American!!

[@origamikiddo2625]

The longer the trial I feel the more the juror's have invested to take so seriously and not ruin it by looking at social media. I would delete all my apps and warn my friends I couldn't hear anything about it. As it was, it was only my mom, and two friends from church who knew anything about the case. I was the one spewing everyone with trial shenanigans and carrying around my objection hearsay cup.

[@leerichards2313]

I read her "would you?" statement as implieing that all the other women in Depp's life where cowed and did not stand up for fear. Which really made me angry.

[@mirimiriela480]

Right? Especially since several women did in fact come forward and tell their stories about him... and he never abused them.

[@gigischaumburg4289]

She is a 100% bully.

[@equatorialjourney4478]

Well, 1) his first wife Lori was bought off & silenced ( $1.25 .... he left long, ranting msgs incl N-word , 2) JenniferGrey recent memoir : ‘ fights in bars, skirmishes w cops; craz jealous, paranoid ab what I’d been up to when he was gone ‘ . She had the smarts to break off engagement 3)!Winona : “ first boyfriend ( J ) used to smash everything” . She released statement for UK trial, but then got n attorney to block her testimony 4) Ellen : bottle thrower, angry , jealous , controlling , constant air of violence 5) Kate : often engaged in public fights w him; he was arrested for wrecking hotel room w her in it . He said to Hunter S Thompson , when asked if he beat her enough ‘ Kate gets a severe beating ‘ ; in book Champagne Supernovas Kate was reported “ afraid of Depps bad moods “ 6) Vanessa : in interview talked ab Johnny exploding ; throwing plates on wall . She was paid $150m & kept silent *His pattern was consistent ; rage, anger, control, jealousy , then buy all of their silence ( just like all his security guards, staff and witnesses . * He expected Whitney to sign an NDA . * Amber had the guts to stand up to him and not be silenced . And we all saw the revenge and annihilation that he devoted to punishing her for not dancing to his abusive tune And these r the ones we know about . Lord only knows how many “ 2 bit whores “ he’s treated the same way and paid off to buy their silence . His most recent 20 yr old Russian ( 2019 ) said he love bombed , charmed her , insisted on meeting her father ....same old pattern all over again in order to gain control etc .She had the smarts to call it off early Amber is courageous, strong, principled and dignified & will be a far better role model to her daughter than he is to his . When was the last time his kids were photographed with him ? Why does Lily R still refuse to support him on her socials

[@MinatheRaichu]

@@equatorialjourney4478 Amber ruined her own case, even if she was based in truth. By exaggerating her testimony and failing to provide adequate evidence to back up her claims, she essentially shot both of her feet. Which was more than we can say about the glass she claimed to step on. She did not need to state how much she was donating publicly and if she did want to donate it, then she needed to follow through. She doesn't need to donate to be believed, but by claiming she would and then not doing that, she destroyed her credibilty. Common people at this point have very little to give her the benefit of the doubt with.

[@eclaire_x88x]

Yep, because they couldve just kept quiet but they all literally came forward and said no never, all of them. That's insulting to them too she's got no right to say that

[@paulafalterman497]

I served on a Grand Jury for 6 months. We had a few murder cases, but most of the cases were sexual abuse of children under the age of 13. I can assure you, everyone one of our Jurors took our job very seriously.

[@nicolettemahaljevic3164]

I couldn't be on jury knowing a grown man did sexual abuse to a under aged child I think anyone harms a child should serve the rest of there life in prison....I have family in law enforcement and my brother told me you can't rehabilitate pedophiles once they serve there time my brother said there back within three to six months for repeat offenders.. it's so heartbreaking..

[@daisypasos2348]

@@nicolettemahaljevic3164 yes, they reoffend… I know my abuser has continued to do so, unfortunately family members cover up for them and of course most of us don’t even take legal actions because it’s too draining and justice is not served or they get minimal sentences especially in a 3rd world country like where I’m from. It’s sad seeing the statistics just go up.

[@notagain2806]

Bless your heart and soul. I hope you were able to regain your peace of mind🙂😇💝

[@NN-cf6wx]

@nicolette-why does it have to be a grown man? I know 3 women who have sexually abused children. One of which I had to report. The other 2 I went to school with, and there was always something off about them. One of the biggest take aways from this trial is that women can be abusers too. Abuse has no gender.

[@susu_m]

I couldn't be impartial in cases like that

[@loucolvin5128]

Every single time Heard speaks, I'm reminded of Dr Curry. She said Heard reacts this way. My biggest hope is actual survivors of DV or SA still have the courage to come forward. Love and respect to all who have x

[@yasd9367]

More courage now. Why? Coz we know it can be done

[@mandychadwick6823]

I did speak up and the mens club in closed family court absolutely crushed me further. Horrendous expensive experience but ive got a new life and now live alone 😘

[@loucolvin5128]

@@mandychadwick6823 I'm so sorry that happened. Thinking of you over here in Ireland x

[@kr50401]

Dr Curry absolutely set the course forJDs case. Before she spoke I was still a bit in the dark as to what was going on. Whatever JD paid Dr Curry, he totally got his money’s worth and then some

[@FabiolaRVela]

@@kr50401 honestly yes, & AH continues to prove Dr. Curry right every time she opens her mouth 😬😅

[@keyfiender799]

I agree, I don't think she was over-coached. I think there was no way for her lawyers to shut down her actual [disordered] personality.

[@fionamoran7024]

Amber knows best. I think she’d be impossible to coach.

[@gotlandia1588]

AH just did what she always has been doing and that's taking no orders or instruction from anyone.

[@angelalazaro-gomes8547]

I've just read that she's planning to write/publish a tell-all book!!! She was found guilty of defamation and yet she continues to defame him and plans to continue to do so! How can this be possible?! Can she do this, Emily?

[@NYUSARN622]

In court a lot of evidence gets suppressed. I don't believe will happen with a book. I'm sure she'll be very careful and I gotta admit I'll be interested in reading about the things we werent allowed to know.

[@angelalazaro-gomes8547]

@@NYUSARN622 careful?! Have you been listening to her?

[@NYUSARN622]

@@angelalazaro-gomes8547 well iif she's not she'll only land up sued again lol. I know she has issues, and I don't believe Johnny Depp was a natural born abuser, but addicts only get worse in their behavior. His earlier wife/girlfriends may not have seen him this bad. And even so, you never hear about any of them regretting the breakup, feeling heartbroken over him or rekindling the romance. Did anybody notice that he was often downright sarcastic to and had an attitude on the stand with opposing counsel while Amber never did that to her opposing counsel? There were other things that nobody seems to notice or question. 1.) Why did he disobey the orders to get the psych evals while Amber respected the orders? 2.) How can throwing a glass bottle at somebody result in a cut around a finger with circular prescision? And is the only cut or injury he got from the incident? Where are all those Australian ER doctors and nurses records? Nowhere in court and it's bc they know that something so precise couldn't happen from a thrown bottle. 3.) The VAST majority of his witnesses earn their living from him. Are they really gonna say no when asked to testify on his behalf? All that testimony whether true or false was one big conflict of interest. People aren't taking a deeper look.

[@rearrangingdeckchairs]

@@NYUSARN622 Lol Amber wasn’t rude to opposing counsel? Are you ok?? He didn’t need to have a psych evaluation because he wasn’t suing her for giving him PTSD as she falsely alleged he’d caused her.

[@rearrangingdeckchairs]

@@NYUSARN622 His finger doctors testified that the injury was consistent with the thrown bottles. Also her witnesses were ALL freeloaders. Her friends went along with the scam to stay in the penthouses and in hopes of a cut of her spoils. Whitney’s story does not at all match Amber’s and of course we have the deposition/letter of Jennifer Howell as confirmation that Amber was the aggressor. Considering she’s a serial abuser, it’s not too tough to wrap one’s head around.

[@samanthaconn3895]

It took me almost getting murdered at 8 months pregnant before the police would believe me and do something. I have a lifetime P.O. against him as well as he went to prison, but thanks to the women out there like Amber Heard, it almost got me and my son killed before they believed me... 👍 Johnny, YOU were the victim and we always believed YOU. ❤️

[@yasd9367]

Stay safe and strong

[@kr50401]

God bless you both. Thank goodness you are safe now ❤️

[@samanthaconn3895]

@@kr50401 thank you love. We are safe now and I'm so grateful for it. ❤️

[@CosmicTT]

For 6 years she was believed. Insinuating that Depps other partners were abused and are too weak to come forward is 🗑. I hope this is the end of giving her a platform and she "moves" on.

[@hazelhadley-britt6396]

They did come forward and wrote statements for the UK trial. Judge discounted them.

[@annhenry3135]

I don’t think it will be. Expect a book and then another book, both to be found in the dollar bins at discounted book sellers. Her mental illness will not allow her to accept the rejection.

[@Taewills]

@@annhenry3135 they need to put an injunction on her to keep that from happening. She won’t let it go, they’ll have to threaten her with jail time

[@annhenry3135]

@@Taewills I doubt they will do that. She will claim they are trying to cover up JD’s deeds. Everyone knows what is really going on and soon the people wanting to talk to AH will dry up. She’ll have to resort to US Weekly or the National Enquirer which will claim at the end that JD is an alien. Just let the mentally ill woman rant on.

[@virginiatozier9957]

She was listened to, until the audio's came out.

[@stephanielopez7169]

As someone who watched the ENTIRE trial and all of the Lawtok videos, this made me so upset to see NBC spin this narrative and allow her to further speculate

[@toniwainwright8169]

How would the “therapist” know that Amber was telling the truth, or just making shit up? Wouldn’t everything Amber was saying need to be verified before it was reported to authorities?

[@billiferrell2600]

Her perception was that she was hit, or her nightgown torn and thrown to the bed, what is lacking is context. I've been accidentally hit when I was moving in an area where the other party was merely gesturing. A night gown might be torn and a person "thrown to the bed" in passionate play. We don't know, and it's not clear from notes. A person could report such and not want to state the circumstances for fear they'd be thought to be kinky. Again, her lawyer read a text in which JD stated he had other uses for her throat that did not involve injury. To me that sounds like sexting. Doesn't sound threatening to me. Yet for some reason her attorney wanted it in the record.

[@sariahlace5944]

Absolutely true I believed she seduced johnny with her youth I believe,she had all this planned out,from the very beginning.

[@susanramen1615]

I know what you’re saying, but what human at 22, decides they’re going to marry a 45 year old man with known alcohol issues and make up x y z. That’s bs. She may have provoked him, but he eventually reacted roughly to her. That was her perception of abuse. It’s not a complete lie. It was a very toxic situation.

[@susanramen1615]

They don’t plan all this and yet coincidentally have tv appearances the day after. No one is simultaneous;y that calculating, yet that dumb. She’s not stupid/unintelligent.

[@mosescarolina9733]

Exactly why its hearsay. 👊

[@PurpleWolf478]

This was the 1st time in 6 years her 'mountains' of evidence was actually vetted and tested in a court of law. AH is reaching and continues to victimize HER victim! That is what is sad 😔

[@origamikiddo2625]

So true. And "evidence" is shown as well, that's just what you told somebody and if we see other times you aren't truthful then how can we trust it? She was used to being a woman in Hollywood (and attractive and charming woman) used to manipulating to be believed.

[@mnelson2008]

I feel like Rottenborn tried his best to defend a miserable client; Elaine relied on feeling contempt for Depp, which is not a lawyer-ly tactic. She came across like an angry customer demanding a manager.

[@brittney4u932]

Right and honestly Amber messed her ownself up. Rottenborn had a strategy and Heard messed that up with the nightgown and broken bottle story. She used too much seasoning in her testimony and ended up salty.

[@beatrixkiddo5]

I kinda feel for Rottenborn, he's a good attorney and AH affiliation is hurting him. Notice he has magically disappeared. Is Elaine being manipulated or does she want that 15mins lol🤔

[@Andalaeknir86]

To bad Elaine and amber are both digging their own grave. Even if depp is not doing another defamatory case with heard she is also being defamatory towards the Jury and the court of Virginia as a whole. Both her and Elaine. That is enough to be sued for a different case of defamation. Whether heard won this case or not she would keep going because she seems to hold a grudge against deep for not staying together with her and she blames him for it. She never once would hold herself accountable for anything. It's everyone's fault

[@Kai1311811]

seeing that Rottenborn isn``t even in that team/company (?) i feel sorry for him, to be draged in in that mess (my empathy for the rest is gone....)

[@Andalaeknir86]

@@Kai1311811 yeah he seems to be doing the right thing after the whole trial keeping silent and not trying to spice that ngs up as both Elaine and Amber.

[@stelladiagoupis7521]

“When all the lawyers agree, FUCKING RUN” we need that on a mug

[@KelseyDrummer]

I'd drink out of that!

[@moonvioletkel]

Therapist here! Re: mandatory reporting of abuse only applies to protected classes, ie children or the elderly. DV is not covered under mandatory reporting. An adult patient reporting DV does not fall under the mandatory reporting statute.

[@i_aint_ai]

Good to know! Thank you 😊 is this the same in every state?

[@jessiccaallen]

@@i_aint_ai The specifics for mandatory reporting of abuse vary by state. For example, in my state, mandatory reporters include but is not limited to psychologists, counselors, educators, etc. and the protected classes include children, the elderly (65+), and adults with disabilities.

[@killermiller1980]

For every state?

[@vanessa_starla_]

I was a therapist for 10y. The APA code of ethics states that if there is a risk of harm that the therapist has a responsibility to report, even if not mandated by the state. So any therapist who heard “threatened to kill me” as quoted in these notes, would have a professional ethical responsibility to report. Also, to the other therapists, did the long form story / journal style of these notes look strange to you? Personally every mental health practitioner I know writes in note form with lots of headings and acronyms. Not in a long handwritten story form like this. These don’t look like any therapist notes I’ve ever made or seen.

[@robertlavigne6560]

@@vanessa_starla_ as a registered nurse who graduated from nursing school in 1976, yes notes like this are common. It was much later when we started using computers. Hope this helps.

[@socasio88]

I love that Camille finally asked the judge for her to stop looking at the jury toward the end. she became the jury's savior when she said that and that was such a great play.

[@origamikiddo2625]

AH made me so uncomfortable doing that. How did she not hurt her neck whipping it around so fast? It was very obvious that she was avoiding Camille's gaze. If I was a juror I would prob have to not make eye contact or I'd be staring at her with the most baffled look on my face.

[@RCK801]

There is a stark contrast between JD’s re-enactments and AH - he describes the incident as the non-aggressor which matched his expressions she described being the victim while showing the expressions of the attacker

[@lovelyamethyst]

I’m watching on replay because I was catching up on watching a show with my husband. But, a question the alleged juror brought up about AH giving Johnny a knife if she was a victim and the story you shared with us of one of your friend’s cases resonated with me. I mentioned in a comment on another video that my mother was abusive for most of my childhood. She has paranoid schizophrenia and psychosis and she didn’t take medication for it for a long time. But, I can tell you that neither my brother, my sister, nor myself would have ever given our mother a weapon. In fact, we were quite sensitive to any changes in her mood or attitude, and if anything began to remotely suggest that she might start hurting us, we would go out of our way to try and hide anything that she might use as a weapon. She would often reach for the nearest heavy or solid object, be it a weight or a golf club, and either throw it at us or hit us with it. I can’t think of a single reason that we’d have ever given her a weapon unless we wanted her to just end it all for us. Because when someone is truly abusive and they snap, it’s like all reason leaves them. If a mother can look at her bawling, hysterical children and decide to keep hitting… I can only imagine what other abusers might be capable of if they happen to have the right (or wrong) weapon in reach. AH truly doesn’t come off as a victim. She sounds much more like my mother and I know from the comments of others that she reminds them of their abusers too. I really and truly hope that she will give up and just leave Johnny alone. Which… calling him Johnny throughout the trial was exactly what the aggressor in an abusive relationship would do. I see so much more of myself in Johnny’s behavior than in hers. And this is speaking as someone who has mostly come to terms with what I’ve been through.

[@j3vans]

I'm so sorry for what you went through. ❤️ I agree with what you said 100%.

[@karinklaustermeier4009]

What a terrifying childhood. I am sorry you lived that life. I hope you have a beautiful adulthood.

[@JTHKG_MFM]

I’m sorry to hear about your experience. Unfortunately, I grew up with an abusive mother as well and you are so right! My mother liked to hit me with those heavy, wooden hangers (for coats and suits). Whenever I had the opportunity, I threw away some of those, a few at a time. She still hit me but as a child, that’s one of the few ways I could think of to protect myself. When I sensed a mood change, I quickly hid some easy weapons around the house. I evaluated every new item that came into the house to see if it might be a potential weapon. That’s why I can say for sure no real victim would ever give a knife to their abuser.

[@AwkwardSquirrel13]

Sending love!

[@lovelyamethyst]

@@j3vans Thank you. And yes, it also harks back to AH jumping in fright when Johnny was near her. When you are abused, you become so hyper aware of your abuser. Of your surroundings. Of anything that can potentially be used to hurt you. If Johnny abused her as she claims, she’d never have given him the knife as a gift or been surprised by his sudden nearness in court either.

[@lisajay9512]

At one point Elaine tried to ask the court for a break because AH was “upset”. I think the judge said something like she’s fine, continue. 🤣

[@Stevia_Dunn]

😂😂😂

[@fionamoran7024]

Yeah, if Judge A thought AH was actually upset, she has a duty of care to her and would’ve asked if she needed a break. From what I know, Judge A works with veterans with PTSD so she’s know a thing or two about what’s real and what’s not.

[@elizabethcontreras4242]

I was just on a jury last week for.DUI. We were all taking notes and focused. psst my parents met on Jury duty 54 years ago.

[@brittanyphillips9157]

That is so cute 😍

[@cynthiaspencer2109]

How cool!

[@pointegal96]

That’s adorable omg

[@MM-hi2ye]

I just saw Johnny Depp in Finland with Jeff Beck and he seemed much happier then in 2018 when he was here with Hollywood Vampires. Makes me so happy 👏🏼

[@mandychadwick6823]

Staring or eyeballing as we say in UK 🇬🇧 is intimidating and challenging. Im not surprised the jury felt uncomfortable with her. I don’t think she was over coached. This was her goading petulant, superior, self absorbed personality shining through

[@aliciastalksessions]

I to an in the UK .. what are you talking about ..

[@Padraigp]

Eyeballing in the uk means measuring something by eye. Ill just eyeball it. Judging. Staring is looking without moving your eyes away like a direct stare is an unmoving look. It can be intimidating but it doesnt have to be. You can bé eyeballing the amount of sugar you add to a cake or staring out the window pensively. Thats why we have adjectives in the uk, like aggressively. Passively, solemnly. Staring or eyeballing does not imply a specific adjective.

[@stephanieyee1990]

Ps Rocky didn’t testify that she told her to stop putting on makeup that day either. She said she didn’t know if she was wearing any that day, she couldn’t say one way or another. Crazy.

[@Londubh]

Oh, that's kind of damning; if Rocky couldn't say if she were wearing makeup, that might mean "'..to conceal the injury" or it could mean "...to manufacture the 'injury.'"

[@annhenry3135]

AH and her band of leeches. A disgusting group.

[@Moversandahakers]

Yeah lots of little things like this that didn’t add up

[@tamaradavis2276]

Given the way they have reported on Depp v. Heard, the aftermath and going after content creators with misinformation, I have a whole new skepticism regarding the integrity of traditional media.

[@MaTeTris]

We can not trust/believe anything they say.

[@annhenry3135]

I haven’t watched/read/listened to msm for years. I am much happier and feel better informed.

[@JupiterSlim]

Same! It was so crazy watching the trial and then looking at MSM headlines and seeing them lie & stay pro Amber even tho we all saw the evidence age was lying. Thank god the trial was televised or we would’ve only had the word of MSM

[@sigheyeroll]

Been questioning it for years but I live in a country with really bad media monopoly problems. Like majority of news outlets are owned by like 3 people, everything is skewed toward their bias and interests.

[@tamaradavis2276]

@@annhenry3135 Sort of the same, in recent years I've chosen to read my news rather than watch just because I find it less... sensationalized, but I've still been reading msm. Now I have serious questions...

[@liseklerekoper2441]

Licensed psychotherapist here🙋🏻‍♀️ All licensed health professionals, which includes therapists, are mandated reporters if we feel there is even a suspicion of abuse or neglect to a child (under 18) or a vulnerable adult (disabled physically or intellectually &/or elderly). Those reports are made to the local or state Child Protective Services (CPS) or Adult Protective Services (APS) hotline for further investigation. When it comes to a partner in a potentially abusive relationship, it’s not a mandated & automatic thing to make a report to APS or the police. However, if in our professional judgement we think a competent & able-bodied adult partner is being physically or sexually abused & this is key, at imminent risk for bodily harm, ethically, we can report that to the police as that is a potential crime. There is a bit of a gray area in the able-bodied & mentally competent individual as far as them having a choice to remain w/ an abusive partner. Also, if reporting to the police could possibly endanger the client even further, the focus would be on creating a safety plan & hopefully, a safe exit plan. All of this would be openly discussed w/ the client to try & maintain the therapeutic relationship and to adhere to confidentiality requirements. If the client is choosing not leave the alleged abusive partner, the therapist’s focus would be on creating a safety plan & increasing support people & services to the alleged victim. A therapist would continue to work with the client on creating a safety plan & connecting them to community resources if they wanted to exit the relationship. Lots of time, the alleged victim needs more time, support & validation to get to the point that they’re willing to actually leave. Amber Heard never made any attempts to exit the relationship despite having the means to do so, which is somewhat suspect though the trauma bonding w/ Depp could have kept her from considering that. When she finally did get the TRO, as we all know, there were hidden motives in taking that action, primarily to stay in the penthouse w/ her friends & to garner public attention & validation as the victim, despite her repeatedly denying that. As we all know, she lies repeatedly. Imo, what kept her from leaving was she wanted the money, housing for her & all her friends, the lifestyle she had on Depp’s dime, & the visibility, which boosted her career. Plus, the horrific abuse she described wasn’t the reality, imo.

[@denverman22]

It must be that the therapist didnt actually believe the patient. How does one not report?

[@liseklerekoper2441]

@@denverman22 - It’s not a requirement to report possible abuse unless the person allegedly being abused is in a compromised class such as a child, disabled, or elderly. Physicians are in a different category because they actually do physical examinations. As I shared before, a therapist’s primary role would be to help her make a safety plan, validate her feelings, and document it all very carefully in case the client does decide to pursue legal recourse.

[@siobhansignet5256]

@@liseklerekoper2441 thank you for clarifying and thank you for what you do.

[@judilyntravis1660]

We have the right to be crazy, we have the right to be in terrible relationships. We even the right to be alcoholics and have eating disorders.

[@liseklerekoper2441]

@@siobhansignet5256 - So very kind of you to say that, thank you.😊

[@UranusGaseous]

I was a juror in a criminal case and the charges were, if I remember correctly, burglary, robbery, and rape. I was freshly discharged from 6 years in the Marine Corps (which is probably why I was selected) and most of my fellow jurors were around my age at the time (mid 20s) with two in their early 40s. We all took our juror responsibilities seriously to the point that we took two whole days to argue the charge of robbery even though we all agreed to the burglary and rape charge in the first two hours of deliberation. The lawyers on both sides gave us the vibe of, "wtf took so long?" after the verdict was rendered. It took us three and half days to deliver the verdict on a trial that last five so I don't blame them. From my experience as a juror, I find it hard to believe that the jury didn't take it seriously.

[@laceymacymondor6083]

The jury I was on, the judge was actually retired and covering for a judge who had been called to a larger court. When we returned our verdict, he asked for every verification in open court that that was really what we decided on, even had a silent re-count on the votes where we anonymously wrote our vote and it was turned into the bailiff. Then he came to us in the jury chamber or whatever and was like, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING. We were like, are you serious right now, this is why there are juries.

[@origamikiddo2625]

​@@laceymacymondor6083wow, are judges supposed to do that?? Now I want to know more case details. There are cases where I disagree with the jury's verdict but usually cuz of outside knowledge I have of the case. I see how the prosecution argued and presented facts that they reached that verdict.

[@graublauYT]

I LOVE that you talk about the person who delivers the messages is rarely not the one at fault, so many people don't differentiate!

[@capricornqueen5262]

I was married to someone who never hit me but increasingly controlled everything my career, household income what i wore and his jealousy made going out a nightmare as almost each time it ended with me in tears, trying to defend that i wasn't flirting with guys by looking at them. He told me constantly that without him i'd end up destitute. I was a shell until some friends helped me. Emotional abuse is real and devastating but i don't feel AH was subject to that either based on her reactions.

[@ryangallo9356]

I am so sorry you suffered this abuse. Been there and totally agree this emotional abuse is utterly devastating. It’s IPV whether you are ever physically abused or not. Sending love and hope you never experience this again. 💕

[@MaTeTris]

She was abusing JD like that. Listen to the whole recordings. They are all over KZbin. She is abusive af, that is why they weren't played by AH's team during trial.

[@cindorella1495]

This sounds like what I went through with my own mother 🥲 If AH went through this, I feel like she was a big part of it. If JD was already insecure, AH would purposely make it worse

[@MaTeTris]

@@cindorella1495 you just have to listen to the whole recordings. She is relentless at belittling JD...most of the times he cant utter a single word because she goes on and on and on. I think that she was planning to milk JD for a few years and then leave him or move onto someone else. That would have been kind of normal given the age difference. He might have even had that thought. But because she is a nutjob, he couldnt take her any longer. So two things happened: 1. She couldnt handle the fact that he was going to abandon her and that she woulfd have had to move out (that is on tape) 2. Her career was not well-established yet. So she concoted a plan to get the divorce settlement (houses included, because her friends lived there for effing free). The plan was to appear bruised at the TRO so that everyone could think he was abusing her. That way it was easier to negociate a tidy divorce deal. But Metoo happened and she jumped on the waggon to be the star of a movement that could give her prestige and jobs!! That is what happened. To portray that image she didnt give an eff if she was damaging the man she supposedly still loves or if she was using real victim's suffering for her own gain and ofc she had to say that she had donated the divorce money to appear whole and truthful, not a gold-digger. She has been caught in all sorts of lies in that plan but she is too entangled in it to leave it now and because she is a nutcase, she has increasingly begun to believe her own lies...The more lies she tells, the more she is gonna be in trouble. She needs psychiatric help and some sort of spiritual awakening to become a better person, for her daughter's sake, who by the way, she got thanks to a "rando" as she likes to call "average people" beneath her.

[@billiferrell2600]

According to my therapist, perception is reality as pertains to that person. That really implies that the reality of the individual is not necessarily fact.

[@lyciumchld]

Searle talks about objective reality and subjective reality, and I think that model works really well to parse how AH's reality could be so radically different than other people's. Her reality appears to be one of abandonment and persecution, wherein she's a victim and a princess, and everyone else owes her attention. From the outside we can see that she appears to fall apart entirely at the prospect of being left alone for even a few hours. Some therapists have theorized this has to do with severely fragmented identity, which she "solidifies" entirely through her interactions with others, leaving her feeling like she doesn't exist in a substantive way when alone. Objectively we know she doesn't just disappear, but subjectively she feels like she's dying. I pity her and hope she gets help. Anyhow, reality, according to Searle, is real, and to a degree accessible, but subjective reality is only truly knowable by the individual to whom it belongs.

[@vhoy7899]

To be clear, I don't think any woman would buy an abusive man a knife. We teach abused ppl to stay away from the kitchen when an abuser starts to take action. Hide knives and have a getaway plan. I have an abused client and her story is heart wrenching. She told me every night she got up pretending to need water so she Could check that the gas was not on . She said for years she didn't sleep well. He has since passed and she has severe PTSD.

[@reiniamajiki4179]

I'm watching the juror part and just had to comment about how serious they take cases. My mother was a juror for a high profile case in our area that dealt with potential police brutality. The argument was that the police officer took one too many shots at the defendant when the defendant was trying to flee a crime scene. My mother is a progressive person, and she had a child (me) that was a person of color even though she was white. She understands the struggles with racism that I had. She knows how much of an advocate I am against police brutality. And this case was against a person of color and a police officer. And she had her phone confiscated, everything was super tight lipped, and she deliberated for a long time. And she found the officer was innocent because the time between the first shot which was justified and the second shot which was the once in question, were too close to be an intentional shot. And she KNEW she was going to get backlash for her opinion on the verdict, especially because she does believe police can be corrupt. She took her job as a juror VERY seriously and based her opinion on the facts in the trial versus her own bias against the police. I dont doubt the jurors in this case, no matter how popular the people involved were in the public eye, took this case and the evidence seriously and at face value with no outside influence. The attack on the jury from Heards team really upsets me because I know just how seriously these jurors take their job. They know what they are there to do. And even if the outcome is unfavorable, they still adhere to the evidence presented.

[@kathrynherbert6138]

When I was on Jury Duty, I treated it as seriously as my full time job in HR. Someone's life could have been drastically and irreparably altered due to my and the others' judgement of the evidence we were presented with, and we took that seriously and I hate the way she was talking about the jury. I was out for 3 days and was over it... I can't imagine weeks of this.

[@sasharama5485]

She run her mouth for 6 years . She got all the benefits of "speaking her truth". Her ex husband lost his job, the second she spoke. She got to become an ambassador, get press, speak to women, work with l oreal, Aquaman... What power was she talking against? The second she said "x" her husband was done. And now she has the audacity to say "I was silenced, look at what happens when victims speak"... She is disgusting.

[@chrisjordan836]

It's like she wanted automatic validation. Validation is not free.

[@chrisjordan836]

That's what makes it valuable.

[@rachael2794]

I love how Elaine is going off accusing the jury of being on social media and that Ambers legal team could not submit the UK judgement. But if the jury saw social media they would have know the UK judgement and STILL ruled against Amber. She’s clutching at straws.

[@KarensOpinionsMayDiffer]

I will never understand how the jury missed the fact that Amber and Raquel were trying to set Johnny up by screaming abuse while he was clearly standing there doing nothing - on his own property they were squatting on!

[@TheChrissy48]

Amen Karen, These skanky people took total advantage of Johnny and it makes me so mad every time they show the video when the cops show up and they are all there in his penthouses and he has to walk away and go to his other house.... Ughh they make me so sick

[@zamorasanchez4953]

I’ve been a juror and you are absolutely right, when it’s someone’s life, finances, DV, etc, serious cases we take very seriously because we think if this was us we want others to take our own caca seriously! These are peoples livelihood & everything in between! It’s insulting when “they” don’t believe we take their case seriously when we’ve devoted our time & lose of income during that process.

[@ariel3703]

Ex medical scribe here, on the doctors notes. I want to mention that doctors notes were in evidence on Amber Heard in the trial, and they were not in her favore. You could tell that AH was very confident when Camille did cross that they weren’t going to hurt her. In my experience, most patients tend to think they know what’s on their notes but actually don’t have any idea. When a patient sees a doctor they will generally only be treated for the complaint that is the reason of their visit. That does not mean that, other things aren’t evaluated. In every visit there is a general wellness check. It is standard, it checks if they are mentally alert and oriented, and the general appearance of their health. I have a quick text code that I use where I will type in a few letter and I automatically insert a bullet point list of the overal health check. If there is any obvious change in their appearance we will go and edit that list. I have even had a doctor put down hematoma’s before, aka hickies. This is also why the note says that AH is male. Nothing was wrong with her appearance so the physician or scribe did not edit the evaluation, and forgot to change the gender. Knowing all this it was very entertaining to watch knowing Camille knew exactly what she was doing and watching AH go from Cocky to panicked.

[@jessel7139]

Yess! People don't realize how medical records are written and recorded. They're in a computer that automatically fills certain things in and you have to change them. Sometimes things get left in that don't belong, especially if it's a typical check up where nothing of note is present.

[@elainemelendez8969]

Hi Emily you are great

[@RachelRhiarti]

I hate that she keeps being permitted to call a *therapist* her "doctor". Also, she started seeing a therapist who conveniently created a binder of "evidence" for her from the moment she started her relationship? Does this not simply reinforce the impression she went into the relationship with the specific intent of destroying her target/victim? Edit: Also your story about the victim who gave their spouse bullets very much echoed what we heard JD say to AH in the hotel room meeting, where he was saying all he had left was his blood.

[@moonlampje79]

That’s a very valid point you’re making 👌

[@KiwikimNZ]

I am a nurse and no matter if you are a Doctor, Nurse or Therapist if a Dr which in this case I believe was a Dr. , all documentation of client session or patient notes must be kept and they are the property of the client/patient. We all have a right to access our own patient/client notes, by law anyone can request copies of those physical notes at any time. I have requested my own hospital notes both physical and mental health notes and got copies of both within a month or less. You just have to show ID and fill out a form. If the therapist/Dr refused to give these notes to her then they are liable. Notes will be written in “ quote “ patients own words and then the therapist will write up the patient presentation, behaviour, current issues, subjective and objective observations. (Patient flat in effect, appeared distracted, appeared tired and looked unkempt) The intervention used while dealing with client (guided meditation session attempted) bHow the client responds to the intervention. (Client did not want to participate in the session, said she felt too distressed) Plan what is going to happen once the client goes home, things for client to work on, agencies that must be contacted if other interventions are needed.

[@lorenatreichler5877]

I just wonder why the doctor/therapist/whatever was not a witness then

[@mirimiriela480]

@@lorenatreichler5877 Because all they can testify to is what someone said. That's hearsay.

[@RachelRhiarti]

@@KiwikimNZ That was really great insight, thank you. Also, to be clear, I'm not dismissing the vital role therapists play. But you've sort of made my point by assuming, even as someone working in the medical profession, that they are in fact talking about a doctor. When pressed, the only "suppressed evidence" they have is therapist notes. The therapist didn't refuse to share the notes; the judge refused to allow them as evidence because they're basically hearsay. But she and Elaine have both repeatedly referred to the therapist as a doctor, knowing full well people will interpret it to mean concrete medical evidence was suppressed. It's "pledge" versus "donate" all over again.

[@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend]

Emily, I just want to thank you for inspiring me - I have been working really hard to climb the corporate ladder from scratch as an immigrant and am doing so well for myself, but at management level was hitting a wall with not being naturally assertive. Unexpectedly, your "I have questions!" has actually completely changed me into someone assertive because I realized that I don't have to say "What you did isn't good enough", I just have to come in from the angle "I have questions", whether I'm agitated or genuinely curious. It's changed my whole approach and made me so much more effective. Thank you.

[@pjhaze]

I wasn’t on the jury obviously, and she isn’t talking about me. However, Amber has made me more angry than any person I don’t know or care about ever has!! As a survivor myself, as a woman, as a human with empathy… she makes me so angry! The fact she’s lying right to my face! “That’s not what the audio you just heard said! Don’t listen to your lying ears” like she’s peeing on my leg and says it’s raining!! She lies about donations. She lies so often about dumb things that don’t matter (like how often she drinks or used drugs!) so I don’t believe ANYTHING SHE SAYS! Then she has the audacity to pretend like there’s no reason she shouldn’t be believed it’s infuriating! I can’t believe she’s allowed use these lies as weapons to destroy another person and the elites and MSM pretend she’s a victim??!! I will never trust MSM ever again

[@yasd9367]

I take everything in a he said she said report in any media. I was taught to read critically in my 2nd year in hs in my country. 45 yrs ago and we analyzed news articles twice a week and had to write the article from the opposing side

[@ribeastie6479]

They've lost me too!

[@robinantonio8870]

Narcs use false allegations against their victims all the time and the media are happy to publish it with no evidence required and the real victim is refused the right of reply. It was done to me , and to people I know. We know it was all bullshit and the accusers had actually done it to us, but it was assumed they were telling the truth and we were not allowed to tell our side or show the evidence we had. No evidence was required on their side. Noone cares about the people falsely accused, they only care about the people making the accusation, but some of the accused are the real victims and we suffer too and are denied justice. Do not believe all women, or even all victims. And witnesses some times lie . Believe the evidence. I cannot believe the people saying women should not have to have evidence to be believed. A medical record for a physical injury is all you need to prove physical injury. And even that might not be caused by the accused person. Non medical abuse- leave. There is a lot of help out there to do it. Better that mental/ financial abuse etc isn't believed than destroy the real victim and drive an innocent person to suicide. A lot of people are narcissitic and will set out to destroy their victim and are happy to tell the most disgusting lies to do it. You don't know that happens until you see it happen to yourself ,or to someone else and you saw what REALLY happened.

[@sarahtaylor4264]

They lost me years ago. Happy to see others get there too.

[@Aurega88]

Clearly, the Jury felt the same way as you did and made her pay up 10 Million plus 5 Million extra just to punish her (which was reduced by Virginia Law afterwards).

[@kellycasperhanson4426]

Elaine's worst issues: 1. She didn't sound credible. 2. She seemed to struggle to do her job. 3. Her foreseeable errors became instant jokes (eg. Arnica cream & Milani make-up.) 4. She left the impression she was a bad lawyer. 5. Overall, she became a liability, not an asset, to her client.

[@KirbyKirby-q3p]

yet, AH seems to be in alignment with Elaine bad combination creating worst case scenario which is well deserved! lol

[@kellycasperhanson4426]

@@KirbyKirby-q3p I feel Elaine may be codependent to AH. Many other servile types have come under her spell. Why else hang around?

[@luannwood1009]

I was a juror on a criminal case and every one of us took it seriously and reviewed evidence before confirming our decision. Someone's life will be drastically altered by our decision and that's a heavy weight. It must be based on evidence.

[@kathyedwards2863]

same...I was honored to serve as everyone that served with me, we all took the service seriously

[@allisonmiller7564]

Amber plays word games with people and chooses her words very specifically so for her to use past tense "I donated it all" she knew exactly what those words meant and she liked what it implied

[@jrwntctv8091]

It seems to me that the best example of how you should address the jury while on the stand was Dr Curry's testimony. She split her attention between the attorneys and the jury very well.

[@garykidson4489]

@@melinagoranson If this was a criminal case I would definitely agree. False criminal allegations should result in a sentence that the alleged offense would result in plus 5 years.

[@nana820able]

Dr. Curry was an excellent witness. I doubt she ever made the jurors uncomfortable. Easy to listen to and understand.

[@jrwntctv8091]

@@nana820able Yes. It certainly helps that she knows how to present her material in an engaging and interesting way.

[@MamaTfromMN]

Survivor here. This trial coverage has been incredible and, for me, therapeutic. I had several abusive relationships where I was injured and damaged. I also had my own issues, including addiction issues AND Borderline Personality Disorder. Fast forward 20 years and through this experience I've seen a lot of things. After bpd diagnosis I often figured I was responsible for all of it, although the truth was I wasn't. I've owned some shit and released even more through hindsight and you and others walking through this step by triggering step! To all my fellow survivors, we made it. We're past it. And we just learned we can live through it - again. ❤❤❤💜💜💜

[@ryangallo9356]

💜

[@ashleyh1897]

When Savannah asks her about if she thought about not stirring the pot by writing the op-ed, AH doesn’t answer it at all but rather dances around using descriptive words. 😂 Dr. Curry nailed it.

[@NYUSARN622]

I'm trying to figure out why only Amber obeyed the court order for the psych evals.

[@chromacorvus9651]

@@NYUSARN622 Probably thought that she could somehow prove her "therapist notes" and "medical records" were valid, as we all know they aren't but to Amber, its probably the case.

[@mostlyvoid.partiallystars]

@@NYUSARN622Johnny was not ordered to be evaluated. Ambers side attempted to get him ordered twice and the judge refused because he was not claiming mental affect due to her abuse.

[@jennifersoto6457]

OMG!! That could not be more true. My daughter is also a ♓️ she always needs time to make a decision and or to accept changes. So since she was a toddler I had to make changes on how we did things with her to help her adapt and go with the flow. She is now 23 😁 amazing brilliant woman.

[@druviseglite]

It was a nice live. AH sure has a perception that all is fine and good, even if the public opinion has sunk her. Delusions don't help cover lies and machinations.

[@swissms5808]

AH does in fact live in her own world. Narcissists unfortunately always spin themselves above all else.

[@marilynbunzo3648]

Cofidx. C. C do

[@gypsymoonX]

BTW - Most of the violence she talked about were scenes from JD movies. He head butted someone in Black Mass. He also had a scene where it looked like he grabbed someone in the crotch. There are a ton of other examples. It’s like she watched the movies and pretended she was on the receiving end of the violence. Does she think that just because we saw him do it in a movie he would do these things in real life? After all, we all think he has scissors for fingers😵

[@gypsymoonX]

I just watched Murder on The Orient Express today. One of the characters - Masterman says to Depps character “If I were to leave something unpleasant on your pillow, sir, it would not be a letter.” - Now tell me that Amber didn’t get the idea for the grumpy 💩from that!

[@whims6278]

@@gypsymoonX this is so interesting

[@Mk-yg4vf]

My ex was an abuser, physically and emotionally, this was 30 years ago. The physical abuse fades, the emotional abuse scarred my soul. It changed me from the inside out. For THAT woman to have the audacity to think she represents women who have survived domestic abuse is an atrocity

[@yasd9367]

I am with you in this

[@sharkarkari7074]

Exactly and the people defending her make me wanna throw up why still defaming the Victim johnny they giving the Abuser interviews Im sick you here me all DV victims we are sick

[@ryangallo9356]

💜💜💜

[@pamelahawn9300]

Sickening huh? I forgot when I got beat up? You never forget.

[@PollyO_YT44]

Yes. I went through it four the last 4 years of my 8 yr marriage from 1994-2002. I know exactly what you mean when you said it scarred your soul & it changed you from the inside out. I knew exactly what you meant & I know how that feels w all my being. I told my husband once I hate my ex more because of the person I was that he took from me. I’m really sorry you had to go through that.

[@rachaelb.]

That Umbrella Guy and us compared the handwriting on her therapist "notes" to her own writings. Pretty darn similar cursive writing! Lol

[@kelsienicole3387]

It is WILD to me that juror pay in this case was $30 a day. There's a bill in the VA Congress to raise it to $100, but it's insane that they could ever get less than minimum wage for this super important service.

[@jilldudzinski2374]

Totally agree it makes NO SENSE.

[@patriciasisson84]

Probably why so many try to get out of it. Who can afford to go without a paycheck that long. Many would lose all they have.

[@origamikiddo2625]

​@@patriciasisson84for sure. And for many ppl they need a sub for their work (like when I was a teacher or daycare worker, can't just have unsupervised kids). So now you don't get paid for the day and your work has to find another worker. $40 a day was prob set up back before the 60s when that was a day's wages, like when movie theatre tickets cost 5¢, and now that's the prices of 2 meals at McD's.

[@jborrego2406]

Yes like how are ppl paying there bills. Most of America dont even have 500 in savings

[@cyndilagasse991]

federal minimum wage is 7.25 an hour

[@courtneywidener2329]

Practicing as an ER nurse in Kansas mandatory reporting typically applies to vulnerable populations like children and elderly. With DV victims resources are provided and encouragement to report to law enforcement but reporting without the consent of the DV victim can be dangerous for them. Ultimately privacy is protected and it is put in the chart and reported to law enforcement if the victim agrees. California could be different but it can be very risky to report DV if the victim does not plan to leave their situation.

[@Jamama4]

Yes. Navigating client safety is important.

[@lifelvr9509]

I just want to add to those singing praises. Since I "found" you, I have colored my hair AND feel like my IQ has risen substantially. Thank you for exponentially increasing my brain cells.

[@chezzie9646]

I'm just a thicko ...but even I feel so much more intelligent, because Emily explains it so well. 😃 I don't understand the US system at all, but I'm getting there 😂

[@cyndisculley5735]

As a mandated reporter, I’m required to report abuse of vulnerable adults (elderly, etc.) and / or children. Amber is neither of these. Of note, if a client admits to intending to harm a particular person, the targeted person must be notified by the clinician. Also: If a client reports she/he has been or is currently being abused, then the therapist typically trusts but verifies & likely provides referrals for supportive services, but we (typically) are not required to report it to police. Therapist’s “Progress notes” (required by insurance) are obtainable by subpoena, but separate “psychotherapy notes” are typically protected. (2 separate types of notes are often used by therapists.) I hope this helps clarify “mandated reporter” issue. 💕

[@Penguuwn]

I did some digging, in California, doctors are required as mandatory reporters to report Domestic Abuse even if they are not vulnerable adults.

[@ChristinaVVM]

@@Penguuwn That’s correct. I’m in law enforcement in California and yes, they are required by law to report to the police any crime being committed or if they believe a crime will be committed. It doesn’t have to be domestic violence. It could be a bank robbery or a simple assault. The provider is opening themselves up to a giant lawsuit if something happens to the patient. Just like if I took a call on 911 from someone reporting a crime and I didn’t make a call for service for a police officer to respond.

[@come-crime-with-me]

So she has mental health so she is classed as a vulnerable adult right so here in the UK .the therapy doctor would tell police I know this because I'm involved in a historical Case

[@boboosRoo]

MANDATORY reporting Is required IN California if the patient is a Dv victim and has expressed Fear of Death from the Abuser! This is what Amber claimed is in her Therapist Notes. So yes that would meet the standard for MANDATORY reporting. AMBER..is trying to skirt the Truth with this same phoney gaslighting claim, using her therapy notes as a cover for what wasn't admitted in court and isn't in her therapy notes...like Fear of Death from Depp. Shes full of BS. Total scammer like Jussie.

[@liseklerekoper2441]

I am also licensed psychotherapist and agree with what you said except for one thing and it may be different in my state of Virginia than where you live. If an attorney files a subpoena duces tecum that’s signed by a judge, then psychotherapy notes can be subpoenaed along w/ progress notes, but that is very hard to do & in the 10 years that I’ve been practicing, I’ve never had to give psychotherapy notes even though there were two attempts to do that w/ a subpoena duces tecum. On a sidenote, since psychotherapy notes aren’t part of the official client medical record, there’s no way really for an attorney to prove that a therapist has them or not.

[@jessealling229]

I love being a law nerd. Thank you for the opportunity to be a lawnerd. Is that one word? Reno, Nevada!

[@kstalia]

Almost every therapy session that I have, when I start crying, I can barely stop, and it's only after talking about something different for a bit that I can mellow down

[@danielleyoung3133]

Not only did I go through dv and sa with my ex, my mom went through multiple abusive relationships when I was little and growing up. Neither of us would have given our abusers a weapon I asked my mom. Nor do we have any positive feelings towards then or would want to be around them, I also asked my mom about this.

[@ditzygypsy]

Everything the juror said made absolute sense. Reading the transcript of their words is slightly different from the somewhat bent paraphrasing that the media did. She is a very sick woman, and the jury did the right thing.

[@lindsaychamberlain405]

I agree. She needs help

[@lindsayder]

Emily’s point about AH demonstrating the motions of the person doing the abuse rather than of the victim is a big contrast with the Danielle Redlick murder trial that was also streamed. In that one, the defendant demonstrated how she was held down against a table when her husband got stabbed. She demonstrated the scene from her point of view, with her actions, not her husband’s.

[@Jettypilelegs]

I was thinking the same thing this morning! Thank god Mx Redlick was found not guilty.

[@bernadettecallinan4139]

Its something the body language experts commented on as well.

[@ashleymyers6614]

Served on a grand jury a few years ago: we were asked to determine if the prosecution had enough evidence to charge for first degree murder for three cases. We took it all very very seriously.

[@SarahBright]

"I use "sober" and "drunk" as synonyms, officer, I don't understand why you say I'm lying to you."😂😂😂

[@Lmwpitt]

What always seemed strange about Heard's testimony is that she consistently keeps talking about DA/DV victims in general, rather than how she felt or acted. And I felt the parts where she actually talked about herself more, was regarding public perception of her and fringe-examples of threating behaviour. Although if she did get those social media threats, I'd suspect she'd be calling them out publicly.

[@sasharama5485]

Nobody threatened her. She always exaggerate , ALWAYS. The social media were mocking her? Sure. Humiliating her? In her mind sure. She takes things to extreme

[@screllin]

Yes I felt this too, I kept shouting at the screen "tell us how it affected you!" She didn't explain what happened to HER and how SHE felt and it affected HER. It was very strange. Good observation 👍

[@guchaee3355]

In her point of view, she’s always right never the victim. She cant choose a side at all, she chooses when and what day she can be the victim, trying to be victim but dont like how she present herself as a victim, or both sides 😂 shes a crazy woman

[@MaTeTris]

I take issue with this interview. JD should sue her again,only this time not for defamation but for DV. That might shut her up. This woman is seriously insane, that doesnt mean that she can get away with all the BS she is throwing on her ex-husband. And also, the media should stop paying her for doing it. If we didnt have this YT channels, we would be fed BS and we would probably swallow it whole. The media CAN NOT be trusted at all...about anything!!

[@crc5795]

“The media CAN NOT be trusted at all...about anything” That part. Now everyone needs to ingrain this truth in their brain and then reflect on EVERYTHING that has happened over the past two years.

[@MaTeTris]

@@crc5795 So true.

[@Toby3610]

Hey, Love your work Emily. Northern Rivers, NSW Australia 🇦🇺. I’m a former waterpolo player too. Screwed my knee and couldn’t do much in the way of swimming or playing so stopped in my late teens. I did play against top level played in Sydney. Love hearing the waterpolo stories. I got to get back into it over summer. I have issues with ADHD, dyslexia and social anxiety. It’s stopped me doing lots. Hearing you speak and you were able to do studies and work around it. I got into uni in July for nursing. I’m an assistant nurse now. I’m going to try and figure out how to do it. Thank you and everyone hear.

[@AwkwardSquirrel13]

Proud of you Danielle! From a law nerd in NZ!

[@desertsunset8025]

Your doing great !! Proud of you !!

[@amber76OH]

This is amazing! Congratulations Danielle! I truly think that in order to be a wonderful nurse, one mainly needs to have empathy and the willingness to help others. I think you'll be outstanding! Cheers from California, USA ☀️☕️💜

[@robync9729]

I’ve been called for jury duty before, and I was asked questions when determining if I should/could/would be on the jury. I’m super curious what questions the potential jury members were asked!

[@bethjackson6358]

Sharp elbows is also a term from older days gone by. I can remember my grandmother using that term in describing someone.. I’m 66 and I remember this saying from my teen years..

[@idontgivetkachuk2997]

Thank you for providing a safe & informative place for trial coverage :) it’s been refreshing. You the best Emily!

[@sharahmaples8818]

Something that really bothers me & no one talks about it. During those 115months (whatever amount of time) there were children that suffered that whole time & more than likely passed away. I know this is a sensitive subject. I know she wasn't the person that caused them to be ill, but she could have changed & poossibly saved a child's life. I would have a guilty conscience. When you watch her & her sister rocking out while driving, right after she won 7million, you can tell what she's planning on doing with the money, & it wasn't being a compassionate good Samaritan.

[@Naedlj]

Replay Crew Here!: Before my husband and I got married we used to drive 3 hours to Atlanta about 4 times a year to watch rock concerts at The Roxy, The Tabernacle, The HiFiBi and another place I can never remember the name of now… I think it was an old mill and it was terrifying! Lol! We were on the top floor (Heaven) and there were holes in the floor and you could see the people enjoying a different concert below you (Hell). We saw Staind, Three Days Grace, Breaking Benjamin, Hinder, Halestorm, Avenged Sevenfold, Flyleaf, Red, Lost Prophets, etc… I often miss the concerts but don’t miss the drive down there and back… we didn’t have the money to get a hotel so we abstained from alcohol so we could make it home by 4-5 am. Literally no one cares about this message but it was fun to reminisce and write it.

[@MaynardsSpaceship]

I'm one of those people that treat concerts like Disney. I had a long week at work (mental health) and enjoyed reading your comment and also reminiscing about shows of the past. :) Take care!

[@folfutura1716]

Thank you for sharing this memory, it is for sure something to cherish.

[@lindseybrooke2421]

The Masquerade is the place that you’re thinking of!

[@lisanglenn2083]

I am replay crew here too @Jeska S I love your reminiscing, it brings a smile to my face. Memories are the best. Thank you for sharing xxoo

[@MrsPinkyChiChi]

It would have helped to prove her interest in the movement had she said, “I know I’ve faced backlash but don’t let that stop you from getting help if you’re in this situation. Here’s what you can do…”

[@cerilloyd26]

Part of the reply crew here. Listening to Emily's tastes in music and her experiences with gigs makes me love her more 💜💜

[@robertperrotto870]

My question is this - if she saw a therapist, did the therapist see any bruises, injury, or signs of physical abuse? And if they DID, why didn't Elaine subpoena the therapist to testify to the facts of what he/she saw? Forget about mandatory reporting, as that varies state by state.

[@kellyupdyke8141]

Exactly. Why not have therapist testify? Instead they just wanted the notes entered as evidence. That would make sense if they were fake "notes". There is no reason they couldn't have her therapist testify, unless of course that person doesn't really exist!! I've noticed that they keep calling it her therapist or her Dr but haven't mentioned a name of said therapist.

[@ComradeCoconut]

About AH not turning over metadata - Two of the most infuriating moments of the entire trial for me: 1) AH claiming that she turned over all her devices so her "medical records" were turned over (she never turned over her devices - that was the violation of discovery!). 2) AH mockingly telling Camille that if she would just reveal the metadata on the picture she could find out when the wine spill photos were taken (knowing that she didn't provide devices and provided all evidence with metadata stripped out).

[@marksavage9721]

And she threw her lawyers under the bus!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@princessbuttercup5928]

Ugh that made me want to throw something when she was so bratty to Camille about the metadata

[@Tiggoelicous]

therapist notes: "look at what happened to me when i came forward" is not the same as "look at what happened to me when i was found guilty of defamation". i don't believe she can differentiate between the two. to her, it is one and the same. depp v. heard juror speaks: "baiting the jury by calling into question their integrity is the best way to get nuggets of information to potentially put into an appeal" I KNEW IT. i said from the beginning that she was baiting them. i don't believe this "juror" (quotes because idk if that person is an actual juror) should have spoken out or said anything. i'm of the opinion that most of if not all of AH's stories are stolen. her ex-personal assistant came out and said AH stole her SV story. the story about people wanting to microwave her baby was taken from another person/news headline. her story of being on the carpet and seeing how dirty was is taken from a book called 'the passage'. her entire testimony - all 6 weeks - was a frankenstein monster of well-known movies and books. edit: removed claim of opening statement being taken from the talented mr. ripley

[@irunwithink]

I agree with almost everything. However the Talented Mr Ripley quote is false. So let's do our best to keep from spreading misinformation.

[@Tiggoelicous]

@@irunwithink shit. my bad. thanks for letting me know. edited my comment and made a note of the edit.

[@2012Cheetah]

After my car accident I was in neck brace for weeks, from whiplash & ruptured discs in my back. My naturopathic doc gave me weekly neuro/procaine shots in my neck & it really helped. Hope yur better soon…I feel yur pain, it sucks!😩

[@jericslater889]

I like ur way to analyze topics. Thanks Amber. Otherwise i wouldn't have find your channel. Greetings from Germany.

[@bbloodyangel1]

"Look what happened to me" ....you came forward 6 years ago....you got aquaman role, became an ambassador, worked for loreal etc. What happened love? They believed you. This time HE came forward as the victim , not you. Amber is delusional.

[@MrAlternateTheory]

I have concern there seems to be a notion AH would have been "believable" if her story wasn't so over the top... I don't think a lesser "story" from her would have been the truth either... but it could have won her this case and had people believing that JD had none the less done things it does not appear he has. And somewhere along the way people have lost sight of some very important details AH - did not simply tell over the top lies... She is a DV abuser whom sent her partner to the emergency room with a disfiguring and life threatening injury (he contracted msra from it). She proceeded to try and extort a fortune out of him via a hoax that involved fake police reports. This goes far beyond the OP ED that was simply a long line of attacks she had been perpetrating on him, and the one that finally succeeded in cancelling him and propelling her to the status she was seeking.

[@liananima5990]

I am kinda thinking like this too.. i just realized if she can act better then no matter what, JD would have been found guilty even if what she is saying is not true..

[@fevenalemayehu6601]

well said

[@Mhe620GO1]

Savannah Guthrie never follows up on her questions. She could have asked like Emily "well what did happen when you came forward? You got more contracts, became an ambassador and so on. So if anything, it helped you".

[@paulaeppley3569]

You’re so right! And, with Savannah being an attorney, she should have told her the therapist’s notes are hearsay in and not admitted into court for that reason. Since she didn’t correct Amber, they made it seem like the judge was being unusually biased. And that’s very far from the truth.

[@shannon2182]

The questions were pre approved before the interview. Amber probably refused to answer specific questions like that

[@kendallbaum7908]

I could type a novella here but I'll just summarize it. Emily is the best!!! Love her bunches💜 All ya'll, the law nerd community, rock! So grateful to be here!

[@Yic17Studio]

"What else happened?" I think all Amber is talking about is how she spoke up and lost this trial. And the backlash from social media. She cares a lot about social media memes and opinions it seems.

[@loldershaw]

Amber judged the jury by her and her friends. She knew she and her friends would cheat so assumes the jurors would too.

[@LaniBanani]

Yep! Narcissists accusations are actually confessions.

[@halifaxeh]

She clearly didn’t follow instructions to not talk with her lawyers about her testimony during the break or to not look at social media about it, so I think you’re right!

[@heapokids6]

Eric said someone said looking at the tables, Depp seemed to be wrapped in a warm blanket with his attorneys, where AH side looked just cold and disorganized

[@sassyliving715]

As for the supposed juror responding about how they were accused of going on social media, that person said they didn’t in response to Elaine and AH accused them of that during their interviews. Remember this response came out after the clip with AH making the accusation. This doesn’t prove that they did anything wrong.

[@orangecrush8882]

I love how you break everything down and make it so interesting. If you had been one of my teachers in school, I wouldn’t have been constantly daydreaming about escaping out the window:)

[@judemitchell5743]

When I was a trained counselor under the umbrella of psychologists, I was required by law to report any abuse spoken of by the client no matter the age. This was something the client is told on the first visit and listed on the contract given them upon which is listed what they can expect.

[@kellyann6130]

So batshit crazy she was setting him up for years. That's a crazy lady.

[@thegamingeconomist3831]

I like how when Emily was talking about the Text Crew notifications she said she got so angry she had to get off the call because she didn't want to shout at the person delivering the bad news (i.e don't shoot the messenger). Remind me of Johnny going to another room to avoid an argument with AH.

[@carstennn]

My oldest (6m) this evening when I turned on Friday Night Live (2 hours in to the stream): “Mommy why do you always watch this lady?” 💀 I’ve been rewatching all of the Depp trials (kind of as a comfort background noise at this point, lol) and he totally called me out! Lol

[@theanonsisters]

I think AH was planning on playing the loving, forgiving martyr after she won - that's the vibes I get from her interview. can you imagine what she'd be trying to tell us if this hadn't been televised

[@yasd9367]

Also many people who did not even know they were being abused joined DV support group ! JD standing up has probably helped saved a lot of lives.