Friedrich Nietzsche Genealogy of Morals (part 2) | Existentialist Philosophy & Literature

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We continue our study of one of Nietzsche's systematic works, The Genealogy of Morals, focusing now on the second essay: "Guilt, Bad Conscience, and the Like".
We discuss a number of different themes emerging in the story Nietzsche reconstructs in this essay -- aiming at understanding the origin and the development of responsibility and the "bad conscience" widespread in modern times and culture, deeply involved in the late modern condition of nihilism.
Among these themes are punishment, cruelty, and suffering, the will-to-power, the distinction between origin and purpose, and the inward turn of frustrated instincts forced by the development of the state and of religion -- and the present situation of Western culture as one marked by nihilism.
We examine specifically the nature of punishment and its range of meanings, originating in - but not reducible to - the relationship between creditor and debtor. Punishment mediates an economy of pleasure and pain, suffering and power.
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@emile235
@emile235 9 жыл бұрын
"will to power key to his metaphysics"? 6m50s. I thought FMN was an "anti metaphysician"
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 9 жыл бұрын
emile235 Yep. Nietzsche is a critic of "metaphysics". And, yes, he has a metaphysics himself. Sorta like Kant, or later on Heidegger. Here's the key to not getting puzzled about this: distinguish multiple senses of "metaphysics"
@emile235
@emile235 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@sunepedersen8537
@sunepedersen8537 5 жыл бұрын
@@emile235 he believes that all things even atoms and other inanimate objects have the will to power
@BattlefrontZero
@BattlefrontZero 9 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! Did this guy stand in front of a camera for an hour, teaching and talking about Nietzsche? That's passion right there! lol
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 9 жыл бұрын
Yep. . . I like the works I teach. . .
@BattlefrontZero
@BattlefrontZero 9 жыл бұрын
Gregory B. Sadler Good on you sir! I'm writing a 7 page paper about Nietzsche right now and frantically looking for anything I can write about him lol.
@filanfisteki5757
@filanfisteki5757 8 жыл бұрын
+Gregory B. Sadler mttmdtwwppww,
@mementocatharsis9372
@mementocatharsis9372 5 жыл бұрын
I start doing this to my friends and then reach the end of my knowledge and stop to study. Lol. Amazing how much information a PhD has. Absolutely astonishing actually. I'm 2 years in school and the amount of stuff I've learned is, well, a lot.
@willthompson2809
@willthompson2809 3 жыл бұрын
and put a suit on!
@Rclibertine
@Rclibertine 6 жыл бұрын
Probably the most impressive explication of Nietzsche's ideas in the Genealogy I've found online
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Glad the videos are helpful for you, and that you'll be studying philosophy there
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to read that the videos inspired you to go out and get into Nietzsche's texts themselves. I've got quite a few additional videos on Nietzsche planned
@reanukeaves
@reanukeaves 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, I could watch you for hours.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Well. . . you could quite literally. I've probably uploaded 200-300 hours of video at this point!
@thedaveastator7939
@thedaveastator7939 6 жыл бұрын
For which you have my thanks. I noticed your channel only today. I'm only 2 videos in but I will be listening to everything you have to say about Nietzsche for sure.
@MeekErinovski
@MeekErinovski 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the video's you've put online, they've been very useful on all the topics i've been revising. Keep up the great work.
@dmitryandreyev8579
@dmitryandreyev8579 9 жыл бұрын
SPLENDID. Reminds me of first watching this back in late two-thousand-and-thirteen. Dmitry.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Glad they've been useful for you. I've got about another 70 or so course videos to shoot in the Existentialism sequence, and then I'll move on to the next big project
@niccuniccuniccu
@niccuniccuniccu 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your awesome lecturers. You got me so interested in Nietzsche, that i borrowed 3 of his works from the library to read. Keep up the awesome work Sir.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Well, that could be an aspect of the will to power. But, N is very clear that at its essence, the will to power is a will to dominate other wills, not just physical conditions
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, with Nietzsche, there is a LOT going on in every chapter. He's thinking through a lot, and he's a master rhetorician
@jonathanmoore5619
@jonathanmoore5619 Жыл бұрын
"We are not as far away from this as we might think"... Wise words.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler Жыл бұрын
Possibly the case. It's been about a decade since I shot that video, so I'm not sure what I was referring to
@niccuniccuniccu
@niccuniccuniccu 11 жыл бұрын
Nice, i can't wait I'm trying to incorporated what you are teaching into my own field of study. I'm currently reading beyond good and evil, love the pace when i read i'm completely absorbed in the sea of words and the way they are packaged (to use marketing terminology)
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the videos -- plenty more coming in the future
@cruffatin
@cruffatin 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff, thanks a lot mate. Helping me digest some of his works and ideas ahead of my final year essay!
@BUGZYLUCKS
@BUGZYLUCKS 11 жыл бұрын
Great vids man. Great job... Been watchin all the Nietzsche ones and the Kant ones.
@detorey666
@detorey666 4 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this in 2020. While reading Geneology of Morals for the first time, your videos help me a lot to understand better. Thank you very much!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@swanmix10
@swanmix10 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the channel. You are part of a movement towards free and better education via the internet.
@orpheusmorphius2624
@orpheusmorphius2624 4 жыл бұрын
Gregory thank you so much for the breakdown on Genealogy of Morals. You have great insight!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome - glad it was useful for you!
@ssevkin
@ssevkin 7 жыл бұрын
This is so helpful. Thanks. I just plowed through BGE and am now reading a second translation. I'm finally getting it (with help from various sources). At least I won't struggle so much with Genealogy, thanks to you. I'm going to contribute to your cause on your website.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 7 жыл бұрын
Glad the videos are helpful for you!
@broquestwarsneeder7617
@broquestwarsneeder7617 6 жыл бұрын
Your lectures are really great, Gregory, they make it a joy to learn
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
There's also the working of one of the key agents in this as well -- the figure of the Priest (who will morph eventually into the Philosopher and the Man of Science) -- these all interact, and the bad conscience gradually develops and becomes more cohesive over time. For the powerful, it becomes something that saps their resolve, their freedom. It also becomes something that works for the weak. That's the culture of later modern nihilism, for Nietzsche
@Feideus
@Feideus 3 жыл бұрын
As a french student, I've never had the chance to hear such an accessible and crystal clear lesson on philosophy in my own language ! Thank you good sir, it's an absolute pleasure to explore your content :)
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to read that you don't get profs who want to just dig in and explain over there. Glad the video was helpful for you
@JacubanGecko
@JacubanGecko 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this series, gives a brilliant overview of Nietzsche's system in a methodical way - really useful as a revision series too (in my case)
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you found the videos useful
@MeekErinovski
@MeekErinovski 11 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, I look forward to watching the series unfold.
@jessqhm
@jessqhm 9 жыл бұрын
This was so useful! I study philosophy in college and I had to present a seminary about the genealogy of morals and your video helped me a lot. I thought it would be harder to understand because english is not my first language but the way you explained was so simple I had no problem to get it.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 9 жыл бұрын
Very glad the videos were useful for you!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, empathy as something general would be a sign of weakness or sickness for Nietzsche. It is, we should note, possible for the noble to exercise diplomacy or fellow-feeling with each other -- but not with their lessers, not in Nietzsche's view
@adam5588
@adam5588 3 жыл бұрын
Great video again, keep up the great work Gregory!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
I will - glad you enjoyed it
@MaoRuiqi
@MaoRuiqi 10 жыл бұрын
Sir, you are a great teacher; not by simplifying the complex, rather by making it coherent. Thereby, your student's understandings rise to the level demanded by great philosophers.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You may just have provided me with an excellent way to articulate what it is that I do -- something I myself find very difficult
@TheIbongz
@TheIbongz 11 жыл бұрын
thank you... i really love your channel. and i subscribed it. Learned a lot of wisdoms today.
@elihilman9155
@elihilman9155 11 жыл бұрын
Dr Sadler, I love the way you teach these lectures, they're very clear and in-depth. In addition I enjoy the way you present Nietzsche. You present him as a tamed person. When I read his works I find them somewhat cynical and aggressive. I'm not sure whether I'm projected my own stuff or whether he actually writes cynical, sadistic, and tragic? Thanks for the excellent classes.
@Obsidean
@Obsidean 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. Your channel is a gem!
@freetaught
@freetaught 11 жыл бұрын
(1) I watched this last night, somewhat distractedly--my brother was talking loudly on his iphone. This video helped to clear up some of my questions from the previous video (of course, your comments helped this also. Thanks!) I like the concept of "overdetermined". I think it will be useful in terms of not over simplifying Nietzsche's geneaology, which I guess my previous comment shows I was inclined to do. Hence, my imagined distance from him.
@obbsheistone7879
@obbsheistone7879 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos on this subject and thank you for making this much easier for me. Your simplifications make my overcomplications of Nietzsche's work balance out quite nicely. I will definitely check out more of your videos good sir (Nietzsche pun intended).
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Vivisection is dissection carried out on a living animal. Nietzsche is talking about the guilty conscience -- and so, we're looking at self-analysis of one's very person, drives, instincts, through the lens of conscience.
@Sigrdrifaz
@Sigrdrifaz 3 жыл бұрын
Just to add a thanks, this has helped me review for an exam, a resource of great value that I will return to and refer people to offen.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful for you!
@reef6826
@reef6826 Жыл бұрын
Even with these lectures I am still struggling to understand Nietzsche, but I cannot imagine how little I would understand without them.. Thank you!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler Жыл бұрын
Glad they’re helpful for you!
@gastoncavalleri8560
@gastoncavalleri8560 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you again. I've taken a bit of a habit of following you're lectures regarding Existentialism. I'm getting ready to write a thesis about screenwriting, time and reality. I'm finding your interpretations very interesting to watch.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Glad you're finding them useful -- interesting thesis topic, by the way
@gastoncavalleri8560
@gastoncavalleri8560 10 жыл бұрын
I just thought I'd share with you that your lectures helped me acquire a high-distinction mark for an essay I wrote about Herman Melville's 'Bartleby the Scrivener'. I applied existentialism and Marxism philosophies for the short story's interpretation. Cheers.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
That's great to read!
@gastoncavalleri8560
@gastoncavalleri8560 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you. If you have any lectures dealing with Gilles Deleuze please let me know. Cheers in advance and again for what you've already provided. I'm head down in the books on Gilles, with solid intensity, for the next few weeks :)
@katherinegraden1001
@katherinegraden1001 10 жыл бұрын
You are a genius! This was just a wonderfully done lecture, you have helped me so much mate, I cannot thank you enough. I find Nietzsche difficult to connect, but you have made it much easier. Cheers!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Glad it was useful for you
@katherinegraden1001
@katherinegraden1001 10 жыл бұрын
Just one question! The conscience vivisection, I am not exactly sure what that means. I just don't understand what in his essay he is referring back to there.
@katherinegraden1001
@katherinegraden1001 10 жыл бұрын
Does that mean a reevaluation of our conscience? or that we are inheriting a conscience that has been changed over time?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Well, what I shoot is only partly determined by what I'd most like to reread, think about, talk about. A good part of it is just what you mention -- need -- but what I perceive (rightly or wrongly) as the need for the people out there who will watch Philosophy videos. I do in fact have an interest in social media and education platforms that is growing, the more I work within them -- so I'll message you.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
the second installation of the video course lectures on a classic work by one of the "masters of suspicion," Nietzsche
@husseinebrahim362
@husseinebrahim362 5 жыл бұрын
what about daybreak,the prejudice on morality,will to power ,case of wagner else. thank you very much for your such great lecture
@juliosanchez8263
@juliosanchez8263 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your lectures.
@shaygahweh
@shaygahweh 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, the Genealogy is a powerful psychological tool!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@222Luchi
@222Luchi 11 жыл бұрын
It is irritating when your neighbor forgets not to burn down your house. Thank you for these, my exam confidence has been boosted significantly :)
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Well, that brings up an interesting issue: so, what is it to be "human" for Nietzsche? That is, in large part, precisely what is contested. Are we what we make ourselves, how we impose our will-to-power on others? Or do we take some other answer from some other source?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Good! Glad it's useful for you
@infinitesimotel
@infinitesimotel 10 жыл бұрын
No probs, I see that. There must be some sort of gravity towards something. I was alluding to the Ubermensch, in the sense that they have mastery over the physical so that they can transcend it.
@elihilman9155
@elihilman9155 11 жыл бұрын
Nietzsche's idea of the 'inverting of the instincts' appears very similar to Freud's concepts of secondary masochism, where the sadism turns into masochism. It also resembles Freud's idea of Melancholia where he says the shadow of the object falls upon the ego.
@infinitesimotel
@infinitesimotel 10 жыл бұрын
good lecture set, thanks.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Very nice to read!
@leonpinguin
@leonpinguin 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@floppy_keyboard
@floppy_keyboard 7 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get around to going more in depth of "punishment" and other concepts in this second essay, that you didn't get into in this video? If so can you link me to those video(s)? Thank you for taking the time to do that and for making these videos.
@FDonovan1979
@FDonovan1979 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these great videos
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Yes, I suppose I am part of something like a "movement". I need to think about that more.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Glad to read it!
@BualiGillani
@BualiGillani 5 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you so much. Just finished listening to this very sober, crystal clear explanation of some very dense material. Thank-you once again, you’ve helped a lot. I must confess tho every time you put your hand in your left coat pocket I couldn’t help but feel that you were going to pull out a gun 🤣🤣.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 5 ай бұрын
I may have been a bit rough, but I’m not a thug, you know
@curtismohrhardt4603
@curtismohrhardt4603 Жыл бұрын
Hey, love this series! Was wondering about translations, I saw you commented saying you have several laying around, but often read the German original, but if there was a certain translator who gets the closest to the oroginal. I've read all of Kaufmann's translations and I believe he gets it closest to poetic style, but maybe there's someone who was closer in terms of meaning accuracy. Thanks!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler Жыл бұрын
It all depends on what you're looking for, when it comes to that
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
You're welcome -- that's quite a few videos!
@bosman4055
@bosman4055 3 жыл бұрын
thank you from this video and greetings from Poland
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm not sure if I've tamed Nietzsche or not -- I tend to focus mainly on the array of concepts in the works. He is in fact deliberately provocative, and it could be that I'm muted that aspect of his style and position.
@freetaught
@freetaught 11 жыл бұрын
(3) Now we're getting existential. Now I feel we're in that space where Nietzsche, Sartre, et al, say "you must determine yourself". Anyway, good stuff. I think I'll listen to this again and get ready for 3. Cheers! :)
@GROdaMAN
@GROdaMAN 11 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely the man!
@stuarthicks2696
@stuarthicks2696 6 жыл бұрын
Watching these GOM videos for a second time after viewing a few years ago. Great stuff. Heard Dr. Sadler on NPR the other day. I'm like I knew of this guy WAY before you guys. Don't try and hijack MY rock star dammit! :-)
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 6 жыл бұрын
It's ok - they asked me if they could use the clip - the Sartre one, right?
@stuarthicks2696
@stuarthicks2696 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I believe it was. Radio signal went bad as I was driving over a bridge and when I got to a point where I could drive and scan for another NPR station my girlfriend said you’re not gonna listen to PHY now are you? So it goes..:-)
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Sounds good!
@freetaught
@freetaught 11 жыл бұрын
(2) My immediate application of the term was to the "human". Are we to be understood in terms of our biology, as rational creatures, as consumers, etc? I can see how pegging us as this or that, as a particular something, could cause us to draw moral and non-moral expectations--adding greater complexity to these if hypotheses show some predictive power, which I guess a lot of them do.
@aaronsantos7411
@aaronsantos7411 10 жыл бұрын
This was good stuff!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Well, I'd say it's entirely unfair in Plato's case. Rousseau certainly had some nasty tendencies to his own thought, with the "general will" business. With Nietzsche, I'd say that he looks ahead and sees some massive upheavals coming, but is not particularly forthcoming on what one ought to do in relation to them, certainly nothing programmatic
@elihilman9155
@elihilman9155 11 жыл бұрын
I want to make sure I got the two main causes for the Bad Conscience:1) With civilization 'The will to Power' which was the desire to induces pain on the debtors becomes incorporated and goes against himself. Thus man ends up suffering depth and pain from his inverted instincts. 2) We are all feel kind of indebted to the old for establishing our society. The old then becomes translated into God and then we feel we can never return what we owe, resulting in a Bad Conscience. Is this correct?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Nietzsche videos? Or Existentialism videos? Or just any old Philosophy videos?
@infinitesimotel
@infinitesimotel 10 жыл бұрын
What about: that the will to power is itself working with physical limitation (sphere of poeration), in order that we may transcend that (constructive) limitation (i.e. lifting weights to gain muscle) which is all the physcial restrictions of this world we experience, and that the idea of morality was intended to subvert this power and redirrect it to the priest class that exploit us, through some steady subversion over time.
@SashaSoboleva
@SashaSoboleva 10 жыл бұрын
Great videos, thanks so much! Question: Why do only the herd, the "weak" have "sickness? I take this sickness to be a void for the meaning of suffering. Do the "noble" the not-sick not have this void? Thanks so super much! Happy holidays!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them. Well, the herd aren't the only ones to experience the kind of sickness he's talking about -- there's also the figure of the Priest. The noble aren't so troubled about the meaning of suffering, not least because they are the ones who get to impose it -- and when it's imposed on them by another noble, they can place it in the frame of things like combat, enmity, revenge. Happy Holidays to you and yours!
@jrodriguezaguilu
@jrodriguezaguilu 11 жыл бұрын
Very informative videos. I have a question. Based on master/slave morality framework, how would we look upon empathy? symbiosis? or diplomacy? Would these be considered expressions of slave morality? Even if they are, or at least feel, "instinctive"? The good of the whole, of the other, still may bring instinctive pleasure. Is this slave morality? Thanks for posting your videos, just subscribed to your channel.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
That while Kantian deontological ethics purports to embody morality, it really imposes a cruelty it does not account for
@timothycatlin7414
@timothycatlin7414 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos I have a bit of trouble reading Nietzsche and I would have a lot of misinterpretations about it without these. I have a question about the idea that a society is indebted to the sacrifices of its ancestors. In the current socio political climate I hear a lot about making amends for the sins of a countries ancestors. Would Nietzsche say that it works both ways and that we can demand them, the ancestors, to be the debtor? Or would that be a bit silly? Thanks.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 4 жыл бұрын
Nietzsche would say that the present is so far from the past - and they're both so complex - that it's silly to think that somehow one could balance things out in the present
@p.vaughan3963
@p.vaughan3963 7 жыл бұрын
excellent.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Well, not sure about being "tough" anymore (a long time ago, yes), but I'll take the compliment
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Glad to be a helpful virtual neighbor
@husseinebrahim362
@husseinebrahim362 5 жыл бұрын
great job keep it up
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 5 жыл бұрын
Well, this is from 5 years ago. But I am continually creating new videos
@husseinebrahim362
@husseinebrahim362 5 жыл бұрын
DR.@@GregoryBSadler wow that is interesting new.am inspired well
@MrRvercetti
@MrRvercetti 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been pondering this trying to understand fully. Is there any relation between the “bad” in bad conscience and the “bad” in the good/bad distinction? To me bad conscience seems a sort of consequence of the good/evil or slave morality. Not of the good/bad or master morality. Im curious on your thoughts on this...
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 4 жыл бұрын
Bad conscience is something that develops in part out of slave/herd morality for N. But it's not just that - it's also something that is coming about when the strong are not able to express that strength or act upon it, as society becomes more complex.
@firehand1011
@firehand1011 9 жыл бұрын
50:00 the extreme result of the internalization of man is actually DESIRING punishment..... oh oh........
@siavgoogooly
@siavgoogooly 11 жыл бұрын
I am not a philosophy major (An engineer) but find these Videos very useful and interesting. Initially, i didn't know you have a dog ( I am guessing). It seems you are throwing chuck to students. Please keep up the good work.
@TatianaLovesYouAndDontForgetIt
@TatianaLovesYouAndDontForgetIt 6 жыл бұрын
I think the only reason why I hate watching your videos is because I can't stop once I do, and then there goes my day. You are absolutely amazing!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 6 жыл бұрын
Well, that's a good and bad reason at the same time!
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
you're welcome
@jamesdyer2393
@jamesdyer2393 5 жыл бұрын
This "measuring one person against another" and creditor/debtor master/slave model reminds me of Hegel's concept of self-consiousness opposing itself in an other individual, where each consciousness forfeits the value of its own existence in order to become the essential consciousness, like the two opposing forces......how much was Nietzche influenced by Hegel?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 5 жыл бұрын
Not much
@MrExpiate
@MrExpiate 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for shooting these videos, clarifying and concise. Would you say that Nietzsche's ideas about value are mainly based on the creditor/debtor relation?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
No. His ideas about value are not mainly based on the creditor/debtor relation. He's got a LOT of ideas about values
@MrExpiate
@MrExpiate 10 жыл бұрын
Gregory B. Sadler Thanks for the quick and insightful reply. I concede, Nietzsche does have a lot of ideas - and perspectives - about values. In the following passage in ~8 of the second essay Nietzsche outlines the creditor/debtor relation: "To resume the path of our enquiry, the feeling of guilt, of personal obligation has, as we saw, its origin in the oldest and most primitive personal relationship there is and has been-in the relationship between seller and buyer, creditor and debtor. Here for the first time one person encountered another person and measured himself against him. We have not yet found a civilization at such a low level that something of this relationship is not already perceptible. To set prices, measure values, think up equivalencies, to exchange things-that preoccupied man’s very first thinking to such a degree that in a certain sense it’s what thinking is." Here Nietzsche seems to genealogically trace guilt and debt (Shuld & Shulden) to an originary creditor/debtor relation. However he does seem to place a high premium on the procedures entailed in the relation by articulating that it is what thinking is in a certain sense. I don't think this only applies to the very first men, since societies - even secular ones - for Nietzsche still function according to the debts it owes to the past. Immediately afterwards he mentions evaluation or Werthschätzen (value estimation) as forming part of the creditor/debtor relation. In the Gay Science Nietzsche asserts that "values are necessary for life, and the practice of evaluating needs to continue, as life itself is nothing but continuous value estimation." Would you say that an axiology, based mainly on the creditor/debtor relation, would suffice as a coherent perspective? Moreover, do you know of any other ideas of Nietzsche that could be forced into juxtaposition with this one?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Yep, I actually have discussed that passage in some of the videos. There are many types of values. Nietzsche does not view all value as stemming from the creditor/debtor relations, though some values do. Here's what you might do -- look at all the different places where Nietzsche discusses values, avoid the temptation to try to force them all into one structure, and then see how the different conceptions of values fit in with each other.
@MrExpiate
@MrExpiate 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to do so.
@xo3737
@xo3737 7 жыл бұрын
I'm confused :( what kind of relations of power does bad conscience produce ?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 7 жыл бұрын
You can find quite a few of these discussed in the work, and in Nietzsche's work more generally. Focus in on what has says ressentiment leads to, for a start.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Well, once again, trancending the merely physical is not that big of a matter for N. Transcending the human condition as historically and culturally structured by ressentiment-conditioned wills to power is much more what the notion of the Ubermench is about.
@MichaelJimenez416
@MichaelJimenez416 5 жыл бұрын
Does Nietzsche's work become more prescient during movember?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 5 жыл бұрын
I doubt it.
@kolamoose8717
@kolamoose8717 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Nietzsche would have said about Confucianism
@jsmith2938
@jsmith2938 9 жыл бұрын
I believe it was somewhere in this book that Nietzsche went into why the medical profession was so screwed up. I could never understand it. Can you explain it?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 9 жыл бұрын
That doesn't ring any immediate bells. Why don't you find the passage, and give me the essay/chapter number
@jsmith2938
@jsmith2938 9 жыл бұрын
Gregory B. Sadler i'll look, but it might take a while before I get back. thanks.
@jsmith2938
@jsmith2938 9 жыл бұрын
Jeff Smith I was only able to find 1 paragraph. But I had a feeling there was more. I haven't looked at this in 30 years. Go to the 3rd essay, Section 15, 1st paragraph, pg 125. I believe I have the same book as you. If you run across anything else he wrote about the medical profession, let me know, possibly in another work of his. And by the way, this is available now on audio at Audible.com. And on Amazon.com on CD. Jeff
@JakeEatNow
@JakeEatNow 9 жыл бұрын
Jeff Smith Are you thinking about psychologists?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 9 жыл бұрын
Jeff Smith "this is available. . . " do you mean the Nietzsche work (which I would expect to be available), or do you mean the sound file of the video
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
"Is Aristocratic punishment simply the joy one gets when inflicting suffering upon another?" -- take the "simply" out, and the answer is yes. Nietzsche is not a reductionist, who thinks there's only one thing going on in complex phenomena.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Yep, they're trying
@aron14311
@aron14311 10 жыл бұрын
also: Mr Sadler, did you go to UNT?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 10 жыл бұрын
Not sure what UNT is. I did my graduate work at University of Southern Illinois at Carbondale -- you can hear about that in some of my more personal talks.
@aron14311
@aron14311 10 жыл бұрын
for Niet to not realize empathy, or something like what we call love, or the instinct to nurture the weak (or some such) or even the universalized love of modern monotheism seems to me a big gap in hisconception of human motives
@sogolvaziri2035
@sogolvaziri2035 7 жыл бұрын
Dear Dr S, Can we label N as a social darwinist? Does he open 'one ' way to Racial supremacist?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 7 жыл бұрын
No, I'd say that a good bit of what Nietzsche teaches is at odds with the run of the mill social Darwinists.
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 11 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Thanks!
@aron14311
@aron14311 10 жыл бұрын
I don't trust "the brave souls". Did anyone think the movie Promeathus had Nietzschean themes?
@ADAMSMASHRR
@ADAMSMASHRR 10 жыл бұрын
Can the brain be mechanized? We're trying.
@used_tissue3536
@used_tissue3536 4 жыл бұрын
Men take steroids to become strong.....but they do not see videos like this that strengthen you beyond any temporary chemical can
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 4 жыл бұрын
Reading and reflecting on the text is more important than the video
@used_tissue3536
@used_tissue3536 4 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler very true
@John-jr1qi
@John-jr1qi 4 жыл бұрын
Where's Teller?
@GregoryBSadler
@GregoryBSadler 4 жыл бұрын
I think that joke is a few years stale. But thanks for showing up late, I guess. . . .
@John-jr1qi
@John-jr1qi 4 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryBSadler You're right of course. Pretty unoriginal. Broke my own rule of not missing a good opportunity to keep your mouth shut. :(
@Andoni666
@Andoni666 11 жыл бұрын
SUCH A GREAT TEACHER, TALKING TO A CAMERA Y TOUGH AS FUCK...........
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