Friends vs. Relationship: Why Men Have The Upper Hand as Friends

[@MichaelSartain]

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[@jasonu3741]

Hoe Math got it wrong women PREFER male friends as those male friends are still expected to spend on her (not to the level of a boyfriend of course) without receiving any benefit in return outside of her "presence". The male friend pays for the movie and Ride The boyfriend pays for the movie, ride AND popcorn The Male friend helps you move The Boyfriend moves your apartment AND pays for the transport and subsequent dinner in the new place The Male friend drops you off to work because its on the way The Boyfriend drives you to work and picks you up after work to take you home AND stops for starbucks The Male friend is giving 60% of the benefit of the boyfriend but receiving NOTHING in return, women dont have useless male companionship, the only people that are not blood relations that a women will do more for than she receives in return is her FEMALE friends and if she has any male friends she will start annexing her female friends because "I dont know why but i just like my male friends more" especially if she is single as a woman will lose 50%+ of her male friends if she gets in a relationship but she "wont know why"

[@octavius9685]

They dont like his voice because he uses a very clear and measured tone so NO ONE can say they don't understand him

[@Eternal_Vigor]

They don't like his voice because it's telling the truth

[@kenriddle3552]

His voice is dumbing it down so they understand

[@johnowen9349]

@@kenriddle3552 Nope. It's not about intelligence. They don't understand because understanding requires accountability, therefore the filter never lets the information through. It slides across the outside of their heads like rain off a duck's back.

[@jlogan2228]

Legit had a chick friend of mine start dating a dude she was going to write off but I encouraged her to encourage HIM, the guy dressed a little better, got a fresh haircut and beard trim, started going to the gym and she's like holy crap he's ALOT more attractive to me now and I'm like see what happens when you give a decent guy a chance and just tell him what you want instead of dropping hints?

[@scottverge938]

Damn. It's wild that she actually took your advice. Glad it worked out. But he better never drop the ball. Additionally, my first question would be if she would do that for him? Change the way she dresses. Change her hairstyle. Go to the gym.

[@dylandickinson7323]

B I. G xc

[@jlogan2228]

​@@scottverge938tbh she is the kind who puts in the effort yea, and tbh this dude was not doing himself any favors based on what I had seen, and she even said she liked him but was just not feeling the physical attraction so I'm like hey he seems like he has potential, why don't you just tell him hey you look hot like this or I love your hair like that and invite him to workout with you and see how it goes and dude stepped up Point of the story is sometimes you have to remind your female friends to change their mindsets and be open minded and sometimes with your guy friends you gotta be honest and be like hey if you really want a cute girlfriend you have to put in some effort and retire the teenage/college kid stuff

[@scottverge938]

@@jlogan2228 Completely agree. Specially the part about reminding your male friends to put in a bit of effort. It's crazy how little work that guy had to put in in the end for her to be more attracted to him.

[@CdrChaos]

Women will lie and say guys just want to have sex because they friendzone the guys who want an actual relationship with them.

[@dragonfist25]

"His voice is annoying.." = I don't have a counter argument.

[@ChaosWolfNinja]

Her face looks annoying. Wait for her to mouse face every situation.

[@davonjackson5033]

And ironically her voice is one of the most annoying things ive ever heard.

[@KonaCommuter]

She should wear a bra

[@Dbo_Sports]

You caught that right… she is who he’s talking about.

[@boldtaa]

She looks like one of the McPoyles from Always Sunny.

[@muaythaicoachnimo]

His voice is annoying because it makes these 304’s look inward and see what they are.

[@Anthonybrother]

They don't like when a man speaks calmly, not a victim if you freak out at someone speaking calmly

[@johnowen9349]

No, it's annoying because they can't possibly understand anything that requires accountability. To them it's functionally identical to having a dog try to explain trigonometry.

[@Mike80528]

Hoe_Math does a great job of cutting through the noise and clearly explaining the basic underlying concepts.

[@alex_tucker]

"I don't have a counterargument so uh... his voice is super annoying."

[@Green_Ninja325]

Same as Kevin Samuels : can't refute what he says so they attack the tone. The "voice" of accountability will always be a problem.

[@hamadul-shattan8899]

They never, ever have any logical, objective counter to Hoe Math's arguments except maybe the fallacious "but it doesn't apply to me" rebuttals or as you stated I don't like him for reasons that have nothing to do with his argument.

[@Anthonybrother]

They don't like when a man speaks calmly, cause you're no victim if you freak out at someone speaking calmly.

[@patrickhall6627]

People in ad hominem houses really shouldn't be throwing stones. It's like she is completely unaware of how she looks. Her vocal fry ALONE is waaaaaay more annoying than his voice.

[@PapaMagnum]

Hoe math is so matter of fact it's hilarious 😂

[@michaelmich00]

funny thing most women say is; i dont care about money, i just want quality time. hmmm that trip to the restaurant or paris costs money too!! shocker. no women wants to lay on the couch for quality time. so let them be delulu

[@TheNynax]

@@michaelmich00 The other one is "I don't care about money, I just want a man who is passionate about his life." Oh, so you'd be happy dating a High School teacher who's passionate about educating kids, but just happens to have a shit teacher salary?

[@michaelmich00]

@@TheNynax they can, but after x time with inflation they cant live the life they wanted and they always got a sister or friend which married the 1% guy and they post their lavish holidays and then the women who are trapped in the average(poor) lives get jealous and divorce or breakup to find such a guy.

[@cryptojihadi265]

So now when they can't criticize his TONE, they switch to, His voice is just ANNOYING. LMFAO, ANYTHING for an excuse NOT to take the FACTS to heart.

[@emdo.unlimited555]

So they went from criticizing his tone to... crticizing his tone.

[@quinty26]

When a man chooses to marry, he is actually taking on a child, that he doesn't have. Yes, women are practically children. They require money, care and comfort, just like a child.

[@shaymalchione809]

And what do men require?

[@peraman2022]

That’s why you call them baby.

[@simjam1980]

​@@shaymalchione809sex and a peaceful, loyal woman who supports him. Pretty easy for women.

[@ItsDeonJulio]

Also act like children and have child like arguments and selfishness

[@petergalvez3930]

@@shaymalchione809sex

[@TheAmazingRandy]

Women will say they aren't attracted to a man for his money, but their hind brain is attracted to men with skill sets that make money: drive, ambitious, attentive, purposeful, goal oriented, strategic, tenacious, riz.

[@ItsDeonJulio]

They say that cuz their nature is to lie about women’s nature. They don’t give af how you got your money so your skills mean nothing. You could have inherited it or sold crack for it, all that matters to them is you have it so they can take advantage of it

[@Myrslokstok]

Etc etc etc

[@Alvan81]

Also, Celebrity/Center of attention is one of the few hacks. A low income musician who's getting some gigs (in Hollywood) is a guy in the upper percentile. I realize th3 hack won't work permanently tho.

[@TheAmazingRandy]

@@Alvan81 You are 100%.

[@TheAmazingRandy]

@@Alvan81 you so right! status trumps money in many areas. Years ago, as a restaurant general manager, I could hire an almost endless numbers of beautiful young women and date most of them. I didn’t really have money in those days, but my dating roster was always full.

[@SnakePlissy]

Buddy with the graphs etc was absolute gold .. Love how he “Mansplains” it too 😅

[@jayc5756]

FR 😂

[@mroberson2011]

Majority of Rollo "notch count" was also pre social media. He should mention that nugget of information before giving these girls more fuel for their delusion

[@devildham]

Yeah, but basically, what he was mentioning was a form of social status with an outside potential for high earnings. This was/is a substitute for money. A rock musician in the LA musician scene in the 80s was the place to be since so many major groups grew out of there. It's like being a broke college football player. Those guys are still physically attractive with high social status in the short-term with an outside chance of very high wealth and even higher social status later.

[@mroberson2011]

@@devildham exactly he basically had a blue check in the 80's and 90's

[@HolisticHealth-PMS]

I had a girl try to friend zone me at the end of the second date, I made it into a joke and we smashed. Beginning of the third date told me she wasn't going back to my place (we're just friends) later we joked about it. Went to her place and... smashed. I stopped messaging her. two weeks later she messaged me, I said what's up? Asked when we hanging out again? I invited her for Netflix and chill she got made (I said we're just friends). I said alright and stopped responding. She showed up for Netflix and chill.

[@bensheard3969]

This is DEFINATELY a strategy alot of more aware men use but where I think a lot of guys fuck is is having little to no social awareness so they waste so much time and energy on people who won't reciprocate. They don't realize far more men talk their way out of sex than into it and if you find someone who is interested already it's SO much easier to make this work

[@marcusmcgraw3519]

@@bensheard3969lots of women talk themselves out of being taken seriously, they talk themselves out of sex more. They say stupider shit every second of the day. Problem is you men don’t hold them accountable, why is that?

[@donghunglo3259]

When you can't attack the arguments, it's time to do some tone policing 😂

[@Alvan81]

But this time, they weren't policing so much as complaining. They clearly accepted his message! Also, honestly, his actual message is mocking & insulting them. Which is why we like him...🤣

[@donghunglo3259]

@@Alvan81 some things and people need to be mocked

[@treesurgeon2441]

Notice she goes straight to relational aggression in the form of insulting his voice instead of making an argument.

[@rubryc1557]

In middle and high school, due to listening to girls dating advice, I was convinced that to get a girlfriend, you had to be the nicest guy, the perfect gentleman, etc. But every time i shot my shot, I was met with "you're like a brother to me" or "I don't want to lose my best friend." It was only in college that a guy finally told me, "You need to build attraction first, and only then can you bring the nice side." Looking back at all the wasted opportunities and how effective this approach was. I was like, "How could I be so stupid..." But it was way before social media and RP content, when we were taught that women were angels who couldn't lie. 😅

[@michaellang4242]

“I don’t how much truth he spouts so I don’t like his voice”

[@Matt-mh5us]

Bingo

[@tygon13]

Not about money? She said that she saw "potential" in you? You do realize that that's literally just money, right? It's like the difference between being broke versus being poor. Is the difference between liquidity versus income. You're effectively saying that it's not about liquidity, but she effectively said that she married you because of your income.... But, it's not about money 🙄 . . . Support = money, services, and things that solve needs (needs such as hunger, lack of vehicle, broken equipment, homecare work not being accomplished, etc...). "Potential" = "Ambition and drive" = a supportive feature that's developing, that would be nice to have in my life.

[@sasapetroski981]

Being broke is temporarly until next salary... Being poor you living under bridge and don't have for food

[@bplayerr1]

They are kids...

[@michaelmich00]

yea she doesnt mean he will get funnier or healthier lmao, its about money and fame and he did become influencer so she was right. he doesnt get it or want to act like she chose him for his personality because his ego will hurt..

[@scottverge938]

It doesn't mean she thought he had the potential to be a millionaire. He was a low end metal musician in the early 90s. He was likely broke as fuck. But he was probably fun, attractive and could lay pipe. That's all she needed. By potential she probably just thought he was intelligent enough that someday he'd give up music and get a real job. Which is exactly what he did. Later on he started the redpill thing and writing books and a podcast and such. But in her eyes his potential was likely fulfilled just by getting a real job. That's all most women want. A guy to have a real job.

[@tygon13]

@@scottverge938 her expecting that he has a decent income in the future (meaning that he's a good investment), does not mean that she expected him to be a millionaire. Nor did I make that claim. This is called a straw man fallacy. The problem here of course, is that you don't have to be a millionaire to be a good financial investment. And he doesn't have to be a millionaire for it to still be about money. You then explain that he probably was sexually appealing. And then here's the key that you add.... By "potential" she probably thought... That he would quit this silly being broke thing, and eventually get a legitimate source of income... Which is exactly what he did. But in her eyes, his potential was likely fulfilled just by the results (being his income). And yes, that's all women want. A guy's resultant resources. 🤷

[@Snarge22]

Good to hear that money isn't the only thing since I took a $1,500,000 hit in my divorce.

[@prouddegenerates9056]

HOW MUCH? Lord and Christ, did she even have a job?

[@Snarge22]

I married a nurse@@prouddegenerates9056. Well for awhile anyway. Turns out she was Manic-Depressive/Bipolar and eventually torpedoed her career. After that she worked very little since she had me to finance her life. Obviously a giant mistake. We did have a wonderful son, but it really hit home years later whine the internet really got going. "Don't do crazy!" was the message, and boy did that hit home.

[@tonysamosa1717]

“His voice is so annoying” I don’t remember where I heard this. Maybe it was Jordan Peterson. But this is a classic example of the power women have. “Oh my god he’s so annoying” now in a room full of normal people that would cause all the girls to write HM off in their mind as a creep. But Mike, the alpha in the room, qualified HM and shut that shit down. All a woman has to do is give a look of disgust or annoyance and they can have an entire room of women believe you’re weird and an entire group of men ready to beat you down.

[@somethinderpsterious]

Entire group of simps*.. not men

[@marcusmcgraw3519]

Whose fault is that? Men. Men for giving women power they didn’t earn to try to get into her pants. Take responsibility

[@johnserosanguineous1886]

"Rumor, gossip and innuendo are a woman's fists." That stupid balloon pop game is innuendo, "I don't like his voice" is innuendo.

[@LogicalMayhem00]

It's amazing that women are so bad at communication 😂

[@ka0t1k1]

A male friend is someone a woman deemed unacceptable to mate with and the man agreed with and accepted the evaluation. The acceptance cements it in her mind.

[@rushrush1209]

True. But the man had 1 of 2 less than ideal choices. Either be friends or completely part ways. He chose friendship, because he's thinking he'll eventually get together with her.. That's dumb, and it's best if he just cuts off all communication with her.

[@MrZola1234]

That creator does have a subtle argument in many of his videos that is very different than the manisohere. He points to a decline in the middle class starting around the early eighties. This is the reintroduction of supply dide economics, which has intentionly destroyed the middle class.

[@laf2mull]

It’s more a spending issue. When we had a surplus people passed more expensive bills

[@MrZola1234]

@laf2mull no, its not... it's just what the wealthy and corps want you to believe. Govt spending that goes to the middle class built the county from the 30's thru the 70s facts. Tax cuts for the rich caused the gread depression in 29... and has gutted the middle class since the 80s... just like it is intended to.

[@MrZola1234]

@@laf2mull It has nothing to do with spending. Supply side economics caused the great depression. For the next 5 decades, Kainsian economics dominated America's greatest economic period. In the 80s Regan reintroduced supply side economics... and it has destroyed the American family and most people who work for a living.

[@laf2mull]

@@MrZola1234 No matter how much money you make if don’t control spending then it doesn’t matter how much you make. Now if you want to get technical then taking us off the gold standard was what destroyed the dollar. This made it easy to print money. I wonder if you can tell me the first time our dollar became less golden? It was a few years before we came off gold completely.

[@MrZola1234]

@@laf2mull the gold standard is a red harring. Supply-side economics deystroyed the middle class... fact not debatable

[@twistediron4942]

i once was in the friendzone for 1 year, i liked her, she didnt like me as much until i got a girlfriend after that we were together for 2 and a half years, the longest relationship for me so far

[@somethinderpsterious]

Pre selection. Women only want what other women want

[@Myrslokstok]

Yeah they must destroy it's in their nature! They strive for chaos!

[@dwaynelondon6349]

Y should I strive to b in the top 15%...so women can scout me see what I like I try to get in good with me fir my money...I rather strive to survive

[@c0Ld]

Rollo always looks like he just rolled out the trailer park on a 20 year old Harley

[@srdgrant]

He perpetually looks like he's doing a cheesy Brett Michaels cosplay. Or X-Pac. I like Rollo, but it's so cringe and so feminine. Bodybuilders don't go sleeveless as much as he does. He's right about so much, I think more people would take him seriously if he didn't look like a dork that's trying way too hard to look like a version of the guys that made fun of him in high school.

[@kirdref9431]

And .. ?

[@bensheard3969]

​@@srdgrantexactly the image I get from him. He's knowledgeable and right on so many things but is perpetually trying to be a "bad boy" to the point where sometimes you question his points more than if he was just dressed with a sweatshirt or regular tshirts. It's definitely an image thing he has problems with

[@t-lawsfitness6044]

​@@srdgrantlet's see what you look like

[@t-lawsfitness6044]

​@@bensheard3969yet here you are watching him lol

[@Veej77]

🤣😂I like how the guy explained it all on his notepad with pictures and diagrams - Love it!

[@Colton-wz5sh]

If the avg annual income is 30k then that proves its NOT easy to reach the top

[@stormblest]

The funny thing is, in order to understand his video, you have to know how to read a bell curve which I would wager is lost on a lot of people that need to see that.

[@briankirksey3128]

"since the last time someone gave it to you for free!" Gaaaawd Damn.

[@Lenny_Hondo]

"I don't like his voice." Said with super husky horrible marlboro caked vocal chords.

[@SchrödingersMath]

🚬...

[@GRANDboysENT]

"Marlboro caked vocal chords" 😂 The internet dont miss!

[@Stassis]

AKA "I don't like your tone".

[@Anthonybrother]

They don't like when a man speaks calmly, cause you're not a victim if you freak out at someone speaking calmly.

[@OneFingerYT]

Then she keeps rocking like she's going through withdrawls.

[@jayc5756]

Bruh, if all the men were in the top 15%...then it wouldnt be 15% anymore man. Duh! And not everybody wants to work like that. We're talking about the workforce pay. Believe it or not, but some ppl rather work for a secure reliable job than to work doing their own thing. Its True. So it is what it is.

[@joncarbone]

Friending a woman into a relationship only works if she wants you. In that case friendzoning them drives em crazy.

[@Drunkmonk2122]

Rollo talking about 1980-1990s saying money didn’t matter ya bud 40 years ago things were different those woman then are not the same as today 😂 these old people need to get with it or shut up

[@timothyblazer1749]

I have female friends who i will never have relations with. They are all tomboys, and are actually in stem. The friendship isnt the same as men, but i still act basically the same with them, with some modifications. And yes, they dont expect resources. "You treat me like a person" is the comment i get. Rollo is wrong. Or, he is talking about average women. You cant be friends with most women, but about 5% you can. Assuming the physical is never in the room.

[@michaelmich00]

women choose a finished man or potential, potential equals money, she doesnt mean u get smarter of funnier lmao, its all about muneyyyyy edit after watching the video; i was right, moneyyyyy lmao

[@bensheard3969]

Finding a woman attracted to money is like finding a tiger that follows you around for its next meal. Yes it works but your not going to be happy with the end result

[@michaelmich00]

@@bensheard3969 welcome to capitalism, no woman will stay, romance is over since feminism, u will find out

[@HeavyK.]

When you friendzone a man ... you are robbing him of his time, attention, and resources (money). In addition, you are preventing him from finding love. In addition, you are preventing other women from being a candidate. It's selfish, deceitful, and cruel.

[@MarkM324]

I'm 56 yrs old. You can only be true friends with a women once you get the sex out of the way. I always call it the "Jerry and Elaine affect" from Seinfeld..

[@galactictumbleweed]

So true 💯✅️

[@kirdref9431]

9:17 He's a simp, but he's my simp. 😂😂🎉🎉

[@treyriver5676]

Money is hours of your work life compressed into paper that you trade with others for hours of their lives compressed into goods and services. For those that did not know

[@RrraverCrow]

The modern day relationship is the literal definition of “sunk cost fallacy”

[@bplayerr1]

"Never been easier to be a top 10% of men" Way to sell your product... 🤦‍♂️

[@scottverge938]

Go look at all the out of shape men with shitty or no jobs and zero game. That's the majority of men.

[@jasonmarchant4525]

he's kind of right though

[@bplayerr1]

@@jasonmarchant4525 height is half the battle. Only a small % of men are above 6'. It has never been harder for "average" height men. Then when we factor in 💰, we are the first gen since the world wars that's worse than it's predecessors.

[@ShonnMorris]

Rollo is right. I had way more attention from women when I was broke. I was also in better shape so now I'm working on getting back into good shape like I was.

[@miguelgonzalez6213]

Girl with the most annoying voice and zero personality is the first to complain about the narrator's voice from the clip. #makeitmakesense

[@miguelgonzalez6213]

Sorry guys, I tend to agree with Rich Cooper on this one. We'll hit an iceberg (global war, civil war, major national catastrophe, etc.) and that will be the catalyst for a societal reset. Personally, I honestly believe it would take a major deadly outbreak that took out about 20% of the women aged 25 to 49 for the rest to fall in line and do what the men running things afterward decided needed to be done to rebuild. That's a horrible scenario, as I have a lot of female family members in that age range, but I do agree that its inline with what would have to happen to get things pushed back to an actual normality inline with our genetic coding.

[@emptyarthaus9535]

Its annoying because its hitting a nerve. Thats why.

[@Schopenhauer69]

13:45 onwards... Yep, if you're "that guy", u don't need money. I had a literal multi-millionaire's daughter ask me out because she found me cute. Genuine desire is a different beast altogether.

[@jinnantonix4570]

Men friends tell you the cold hard truth, and female friends will lie to make you feel better. So in male-female friendships, be careful. If you are man, remember you can't tell her what you really think. If you are a woman, don't speak BS.

[@michaelsapienza8749]

Im gay and my female friends still expect me to pay for shit... amazin'

[@werthersoriginal]

I wonder if that lady sitting next to Rollo knows that she's going bald

[@Qpoueoor]

I have zero female friends. Men just make better friends. Period.

[@prism223]

Rollo's metal days is a good example of how you can get by with a deficiency in some area. But, it still helps to improve a weakness, and the easiest way to do that is to lean on your strengths and leverage them towards training or improving your weak areas.

[@menschin2]

I think the USA has fought too many useless wars. Irak, Afghanistan. That's why it's so indebted and the poorer population pays for it. I see the credit card culture as critical. Every move is paid for on credit. Why does a man have to pay? In an age of equality, it should always be 50%/50%.

[@vpoppv]

I know I'm fully blue pill, and all this makes sense, except that I just can't relate to this whole "being friends waiting to f***" regarding female friends. There is zero part of me that hopes or wishes I could share affection with my female friends. I don't hope or wish that being friends will ever lead to anything. This isn't me announcing it to protect anything and look like captain save a farm implement either

[@Lenny_Hondo]

How old are you?

[@meatandsatoshis]

ask how straight he is

[@vpoppv]

@@Lenny_Hondo 54, but it was true even when a woman went as far as saying that if I ever was having problems with my wife to give her a call no strings attached.

[@simjam1980]

I am the same. I would never be friends with a woman if I wanted her romantically... that would just be self punishment. But I have a woman friend that I hang out with, and have no interest in anything else other than friends. I've had bad relationships in the past and can't be bothered dating, at least for a while. Problem is, she has this fantasy that we are a couple, or that we'll end up together, despite being friends for over 10 years and me never making any move. I already know I'm going to get abused when I do start looking for a girlfriend.

[@TheDalinkwent]

Either youre gay or full of shit. Pick one.

[@johnowen9349]

If she doesn't like you, there's nothing you can do to change it. If she likes you, you don't have to do anything at all. Focus on you for the sake of you.

[@treyriver5676]

No there is no more room at top 15% etc.. that is math.

[@2bituser569]

Amen on the gift buying. I did that in my teens for a crush I had.

[@sweeper240]

Frightening those people don't immediately get that the monotone voice is part of the presentation...

[@slandberg1958]

His voice says, “I’m just being matter-of-fact, not condescending” (He’s being condescending) and “I’m not annoyed” (He’s annoyed and maybe a bit angry). How the listener takes it depends on the person.

[@conquistador497]

Ive been realized this and trust me it can be harder as a black man with no proper family support or who cant get a job as easily as his white or light skinned friends that can get jobs easily and whos parents pay for their cars and insurance and health insurance and not the actual guy

[@0biwan7]

i think 304math sounds annoying to them because he talks like he knows he is smarter than his audience and is talking down to them and is annoyed by their idiocy. dr orion taraban says similar things but has a way of phrasing things that doesnt let his listeners know how much smarter he is than his audience but he takes explicit steps to hide his annoyance and advises all men to do the same especially when talking to women. terry pratchett illustrates this for esmerelda weatherwax: "Also, there’s a certain glint in her eye generally possessed by those people who have found that they are more intelligent than most people around them but who haven’t yet learned that one of the most intelligent things they can do is prevent said people ever finding this out"

[@evanbills5688]

Of course dumb people don’t like the sound of smart people. She got a rare glimpse of what smart people feel when they listen to her talk

[@Lesminster]

I think money is just a symptome of some personality traits that women find attractive. That is why when Rollo talks about his young times, when he was broke women would still come to him and try their luck. So, you may not have money, but you most definitely can have certain personality traits(and looks) that women gonna find sexually attractive. Starting family is a different story.

[@CunoWiederhold]

Oh Gawd, the guy in this math lesson is great! 😂 Even when they friend-zone you, they have the haul to expect free meals, drinks, events, and favors from you, except they don’t have to put out because you’re “just friends” such BS!

[@tomharris5661]

The issue with the top 15% is that it always excludes 85% of males, and that is not tenable. It will have catastrophic results. There is no solving this, not if the solution is "become the top 15%", because as more men move toward the top 15%, the Overton window shifts, and that 15% moves. It is insoluble. This being said, men need to build themselves regardless, in fact, in spite of lack of female validation. Female validation and approval as the be-all-end-all goal for males is the issue that every single male can address. Never structure your life around female sexual attention and approval. Understand this for what it is. It cannot be at the center of a man's life.

[@user-kg2ez1eg2y]

A friend zone is like a condom, just in case. There is no friendship and respect there, just a napkin that can be used. In case of an attempt at a relationship, they will not forgive the boyfriend for forgiving a "friend". The guy will always be to blame.

[@georgeargyropoulos5664]

Loved his voice.

[@BlindRiott]

This guys presentation of such naked truths is making my ribs hurt with laughter 😂😂

[@g-man331]

No the answer is friend zone is a woman's construct. If you're a guy it's irrelevant. You're either pursuing her for a relationship or not. She's either trying to hold out or not. You decide what your tolerance for delay is.

[@BigG6179]

If you as a man think that all it's about is "money" Yah I got a heavy reality brick for you my friend. If you have a job, bulk and then cut down and tell a woman you want to experiment in bed....money is out the window. She will hit you up every day then.

[@srgsgrfg7502]

Hoe-math is my GURU! And a great entertainer too. What a legend!

[@nrudy]

If I hear one more woman ask, "What's the solution?," my head might explode. Approach. Make the first move. Move outside your so called gender role. Instead of being a passive object this is acted upon, be an active agent in your own life.

[@Mr.International82]

Ho-flation😂

[@tommymarsiglia]

That drawing tells the truth, that's what I tried to explain recently..

[@DenaturedProtein]

Rollo is JACKED 💪 now!

[@timothybogle1461]

I just recently stopped following Rich Cooper. I have noticed something off about him recently. Really liking Sartain and Rallo being chill and even keeled in talking about this stuff.

[@socku5850]

It also about how confident is he around women or a have a stronger frame set. Women would go out with you and don't really care about money.

[@theupson]

literally everybody is better at being a friend than a romantic partner. it's just an easier thing to do. ffs, this isn't hard.

[@864038swimmer]

very good depiction

[@averybaumann]

Women will BRAG that men in the friend zone will crawl through broken glass to sleep with them.

[@BoglinGomez]

Bite into that brick sandwich ladies😂

[@user-dp6ig2jl2t]

Back in your days money may not have been important because girls had a totally different mindset!!!

[@martinburns7928]

The money analysis brings merit to Myself's personal delimitation, As Myself's younger version had some desirable features, Such as $40 a year vehicle insurance, Thanks to the SR 22 form i became subjected to ! Pre-ticket insurance $240 a year, Post ticket insurance $40 a year ! With these kind of phenomenons floating around Myself, It only made sense to develop a top ten girlfriends list, which worked out as expected, One girlfriend = a handful of situations to concern oneself with! A top ten girlfriends list = An armful of problems constantly, And a boatload of problems to deal with just in case you find yourself empty handed one day with nothing to do ! (true story)

[@user-tx8cn3wf4z]

We need that sientist link!!))

[@mefirstandthegimmiegimmies5160]

I like the conversations but the ad at the end of all his videos are just freaking annoying

[@kevthepoet]

"His voice is just so annoying" - translation, I don't want to hear the truth any more.

[@Rld764]

It's not his voice that annoys you, it's what he says.

[@stefanmatton8778]

Did rollo go on trt? Coz those delts look rounder than before...

[@davidoliver3528]

Does Rollo play 40k?

[@sethbrolsma516]

Is it just me or is Rollo looking extra swole in this video?

[@Ash3n.]

"His voice is just so annoying" *_in Squidward's voice if he were a female_*

[@jimh527]

"Her lizard brain.." Comment of the month!

[@chrisolson84]

"His voice is annoying" alone in her opinion, just as she is in life.

[@allenmciver1888]

I had the most phone numbers and random hookups per week as a college student/club bouncer. It is status as number one, I did NOT have the verbal skills then.

[@juniorleslie4804]

People have money, the reason they cannot afford stuff, is because the money we have, doesn't buy enough stuff. Therefore the quality of money and how much stuff you obtain from it, is much less. If we do not produce more stuff, and only create more money, then the money will become worthless abd buy less and less, while you will have to pay more and more for the goods you obtain.

[@pjaic1]

His voice is emotionless and it doesn't allow them to react emotionally, maybe that is it?

[@Dbo_Sports]

He speaks like that because he’s talking to women (kindergarteners).. that’s the only way that they understand.

[@greg6811]

Damn I had no idea Rollo was that jacked!

[@bowlingdj300]

that cant hurt but its not a deal closer either, Ive seen chicks ignore the jacked guy and go home with the dad bod in a wife beater shirt cause he had jokes , they are crazy, even they dont know what they want half the time, lol

[@DannoTheManno]

Link to original Hoe_math video please

[@edheldude]

The video is called _Answers (Impossible to explain)_

[@maxhung69]

rollo's on trt now?

[@djsmith2871]

Why on EARTH would I want to prance around pretending I'm some sort of Captain Save Society Navy Seal? Do you know how peaceful my life has become since essentially telling women to F-off and leave me the F alone? It's like fasting. You don't realize how much time and effort you devote to eating until you stop. There's deciding what you want. Going to store to get it. Storing it. Cleaning / preparing. Cooking it. Eating it. Cleaning everything up and doing it all over again. If I had known how much of my life energy, let alone money, was consumed by my pursuit and appeasement of women, I'd have dropped it long, long ago.