Frieren's Mana Suppression (Discovered By Others) | Frieren: Beyond Journey's End

[@dear1337er]

Freiren basically smurfing for 1000 years.

[@poppers7317]

*Frieren

[@OwlyEagles]

@@poppers7317 *Poppers7137

[@Zack_Zander]

She’s a gamer ahead of her time

[@kos2919]

@@poppers7317 *Frederick

[@poppers7317]

@@kos2919 *Friedrich

[@TheLaluciDaniel]

"I've spent my entire life being a loot goblin, now this state is natural to me!" Frieren the Mimic Feed

[@Zack_Zander]

Her personality as a gamer is ahead of her time

[@rosevalety3408]

@@Zack_Zander Learned this from Himmel the Chad, god gamer completionist, guild Master of the Devil Slayers, and destroyer of the raid boss 'King of Demons'.

[@S.Fahren]

​@@Zack_Zander Does frieren being a gamer include her hating minorities as well?

[@xzenitramx666]

Yes​@@S.Fahren

[@PuchuKt]

​​@@S.Fahrenif you consider demons a minority, she's basically Goebbels

[@gabrielcastillo9745]

People constantly underestimate Heiter because of how monstruous his partners were, but he was the only being besides the Demon King and Lernen who noticed Frieren was suppressing her mana. And if you read the manga, you will know that his ability to resist curses from great demons is even greater than Frieren and Himmel. He is easily the most powerful priest we have seen in the series, and he was also a skilled mage on his own. He built Fern's staff himself and taught her the basic offensive spell.

[@doakesanddrax]

I think anyone traveling with freien for 10 years would notice it. She mentioned that the demon king was the only one that noticed at first glance like lenren? Forgot his name. And heitir mentioned how long they were traveling together. So those 2 pieces of dialog lead me to believe if any mage traveling long periods of time with each other would notice

[@PlsSpankMeh]

But Heiter was a monster himself... Calling the others monsters because of their physical feats while calling Heiter not a monster because he isn't as strong as them is like calling an Elephant not strong for not having any teeth. Heiter Is a monster in a different way.

[@tulirongtuliro]

Nobody is underestimating Heiter lol. It's just that it's hard to estimate Heiter's true power because it's very hard to find someone we can compare it to, with the exception of Sein.

[@norvinlogan8013]

lernen has been serie's apprentice long enough but never even once notice serie suppressing her manaa

[@doakesanddrax]

@norvinlogan8013 good point

[@CCCW]

0:28 Lügner is basically like "Wait.. she looks like she has 100 Mana, but has used a Spell that cost 20 mana far more than 5 times... ohshi.."

[@outlawcdd4094]

Sukuna was really losing to mere weaklings

[@Andreas-gh6is]

"Lügner" means liar in German. And it's really weird that all the characters are named after German words, sometimes random sometimes not.

[@Houtblokje]

@@Andreas-gh6is Its because german words sound "cool" to them. But it also sadly means that you get these situations where a monster that copies people is called "mirror"

[@Andreas-gh6is]

@@Houtblokje That's better than naming the main character with the infinitive form of a verb, like "to freeze"

[@Nekodnekod]

@@Andreas-gh6is bcuz english is not cool enough anymore, do you know japanese people uses japanese words in branding/designs bcuz they're "cool"

[@josswagdepimpdaddy5467]

Frieren is pretty much Dwight. "I can raise and lower my mana aura whenever i want." Why would you want to lower your mana? "So that i can raise it"

[@matthewglenguir7204]

Who is this Dwight character?

[@josswagdepimpdaddy5467]

@@matthewglenguir7204 from the Office.

[@Vox-Solar]

@@josswagdepimpdaddy5467 I can also retract my pp up into itself

[@SekRanger]

That answer is equivalent to "because F YOU! that's why!"

[@braedenwinstead5851]

Literal goku

[@alexboi9454]

I love that serie says it's impractical and pointless but she also does it

[@Kiba114]

serie is still showing, just not all of it which is easier im assuming

[@Zack_Zander]

Same with the flower spell and caring for human. She says that it’s pointless or that it is a waste of time, yet she uses the spell and remembers all of her students.

[@panjipewe]

Serie is tsundere

[@Zack_Zander]

@@panjipewe Specifically a hypocritical one

[@alexboi9454]

@Kiba114 yeah that's what they're talking about with frieren she still shows her mana but not all of it. That what they mean by seeing the fluctuations in it because frieren isn't perfect and let's out a little more or a little less than what she aiming for.

[@JRGomez81]

2:22 Serie is practically saying "Grandma is proud of you boy" with that statement...

[@edmis90]

Serie is suppressing mana herself and Lerner didn't notice it, how crazy is that though

[@Psyger_]

She was equally disappointed in him for not noticing the fluctuations in her mana and the fact fern noticed it infuriates her beyond anything and on top of that fern decline to be her student and choose frieren adds fuel to already burning fire😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@pierluigidipietro8097]

​@@Psyger_she is suppressing her mana by at least 10.000 years, noticing fluctuations at glance in her is a supreme feat. And Fern did it. No wonder she instantly proposed her to be her student. Fern is a prodigy, a prodigy that also works hard.

[@Psyger_]

@@pierluigidipietro8097 if she is suppressing her mana for 10,000 years then there should not be any fluctuations like frieren who is only doing it for a 1000yr. Seirie is strong no doubt but I don't think he is a prodigy like frieren, stark and fern..

[@pierluigidipietro8097]

@@Psyger_ there ARE definitely fluctuations in Serie's mana aura, but to date only Fern was able to detect them at glance. The mage that detected Frieren's fluctuations was unable to do so, and obviously was many years in Serie's service. I assume that only Frieren herself and maybe Flamme are/was able to see Serie's fluctuations. I speculate that the permanent mana suppression method was learned by Flamme observing Serie, and then passed by

[@Theantininja]

Demons: casually lie to and slaughter people thousands of times weaker than them. Flamme, Frieren, and Fern: Suppress mana to lull demons into false sense of security. Demons: Wait that's not fair.

[@limyarplane1991]

the demons in the universe are not inherently evil they are basically closer to wild animals then human's they dont see killing humans weaker then them as an evil act no more then you may see eating meat or slaughtering a cow as an evil act they dont hold any malicious intent. its just survival of the fittest and they gotta eat. meanwhile like the show explained mana is something extremely important to them to show status and who not to mess with, it would be the equivalent of a king pretending to be a peasant to get at a small time group of criminal's. it would feel incompressible and seem totally unnecessary to the point where no one would ever expect it.

[@azminalibsp4800]

they relish in power, so when they see humans out here just not bathing in their pride of power is a direct insult to these demons. It's rather fitting, since the demons still have a distorted sense of pride while being able to maintain high intelligence to an extent where they can converse in politics, ethics, and morals. Just doesn't believe or take it to heart other than true power, I guess.

[@Radimkiller]

Yeah demons are just evil in this universe.

[@yourmother3921]

@@Radimkiller If demons evolved with empathy they’d be extinct

[@mbk0mbk]

​@@azminalibsp4800It's like AI learning humans way but still only cares about its survival and how to

[@MG7I]

I also love the fact that in that last scene, he couldnt detect her surpressing her mana (even though he could see frierens), but during the exam fern could see her fluctuations, showing how she has a very keen eye, showing why she passed the exam

[@henryhe5945]

That was a great detail. Can’t wait for the next season to come out. She was already suppressing her mana and yet that was how the test takers were tested. If she showed all her mana, they would probably actually all freeze in fear.

[@rosevalety3408]

@@henryhe5945 Fern is a monster, she's a genius and has never slacked on passively improving for her whole life at this point. She's been withholding and masking her mana since she decided to take a wand. Heiter trained her before Frieren, because he's travelled 10 years with a millenia years old elf mage, he's watched and learned what Frieren does as a mage and transmitted it to Fern for a few years before handing her to her true teacher. So she's trained at least 10 years like that.

[@johnlee5383]

​@@henryhe5945 i just realized that they are only showing 10% of their mana, and if that is 10% then just how much is 100%

[@ggAsuna]

​@@johnlee5383 serie's mana when supressed is as big as frieren's mana unsupressed. Knowing how many strong people got scared the moment they saw Serie, and knew they would stand no chance... That says a lot about how many people would run in fear upon seeing frieren if she didnt supress it.

[@thedanksoul]

​@@johnlee5383 exactly 10 times that amount

[@spidlenexor]

the demons : "its unfair that you hide your abilities" frieren: "sounds like skill issue to me"

[@nyu1425]

This is one of what makes this series interesting. Hiding one's power is something many anime protagonist did and so this isn't a new idea and just a cliche. However the reasoning is slightly deeper, the enemy isn't a haughty human noble who looks down on others simply because their power seems weak, the enemy is a race whom, to their core, believe that mana is directly related to strength and thus can dominate others and you SHOULD showoff your power so that others won't dominate you, which is why hiding one's strength is something that never crossed in their mind and why that is their weaknesses.

[@firestrike42]

Just as an extra detail. Demons can suppress their mana. But they usually only ever do it for stealth in surprise attacks. But as you said earlier, they rarely enjoy such tactics.

[@nenrikido2903]

Little precision on that : it's not just simply hiding one's mana that is a strategy against demons, it's doing it so much than it becomes second nature. Because power (and mana) is the basis of the life and the society of demons, there's no race in the frieren universe that uses it as instinctively as demons (not even elves). Anyone can hide their mana for some time but it would be temporary and quite flawed if not done expertly, so that wouldn't fool a trained demon. One has to dedicate their whole life to hiding their mana just to be able to fool demons, which is quite insane when you think about it : Frieren has sacrificed years upon years of growth just to be able to trick demons.

[@rosevalety3408]

@@firestrike42 And mages do think the same. Suppressing your mana and hiding you talent is weird. They take pleasure in strenghening their skills, searching for powerful spells, they don't understand why you'd canter to basic/boring spells and hiding who you are when there so much magic to learn and developp. Why learn spells if you don't use it ? Message is that Frieren decided/realised that spells helping in the daily life are more important than fighting. She's learned mind shattering powerful ones, but she revels in simplicity, practicality. Fighting isn't what she wants, it doesn't make her happy, but travelling and helping people do. That what her practice revolves around. I like Frieren's subtext.

[@jairo8746]

​@@firestrike42 You can see an example of that when Flamme was rescuing Frieren the first time they met, they were ambushed by demon mages, the demons were suppressing their mana to land a sneak attack until they noticed their targets were also a mages, so they decided to show themselves and be cocky, a proper thing for a demon to do as they thought they had more mana, and of course, they got literally blasted to smithereens in one single attack by Flamme because of that cockiness.

[@feritperliare2890]

​@@jairo8746 a little correction in the end they revealed themselves moments before the attack because they have pride demanding they show their true might over other mages it's not a matter of them being stronger necessarily but that they are mages

[@Beckwourth]

1:30 the ability to sense the mana flux from frieren as Heiter is actually insane, if he met with Serie she would've 100% taken him in as her student.

[@matthewglenguir7204]

Now you made me imagine what would Heiter say to Serie since he is a devout believer of the Goddess. Would be awesome to see Heiter shut her down.

[@giantWario]

Heiter couldn't tell when he first met her though (he really thought he had five times her mana in their first encounter), he only realized after years of hanging out with her. Contrast that with Lernen and Fern who both just glanced at someone and immediately realized it.

[@Beckwourth]

@@giantWario it's not like that with Fern she was a child when she met frieren she got to learn from Frieren all the way up to her teens/nearing adult hood Frieren taught her everything her mentor taught her that's why Fern is able to have more potential/experience than the above average mage like Denken, Fern knows her ways and follows orders from Frieren with excellent execution/follow ups.

[@sebastyann123]

​@@giantWario you are wrong he said she had 1/5 of his mana not that she had 5 times her mana lol

[@giantWario]

@@sebastyann123 ...what the hell is wrong with your reading comprehension? First of all I said *he* had 5 times her mana not she. But him thinking that Frieren had 1/5 of his mana is the exact same thing as thinking that he had 5 times her mana, that's just basic math.

[@aaronhauth8880]

I've spent my entire life mewing, now this state is natural to me

[@aaronhauth8880]

(I'd like to apologize to future me right now just in case i come back to this comment in the future)

[@poppers7317]

You must be the last great gigachad.

[@LeviathanTamer31]

Nyatural*

[@JojoJoget]

Mewing doesn’t work

[@takoyakiiii]

The last Great Mogging

[@jairo8746]

Unrelated but, Serie remembering her students is one of the most, if not the most heartwarming scene i have ever seen in anime.

[@adhennakbar4516]

seiren is such tsundere she is also supressing her own mana and get recognise by fren first glance

[@alexs5814]

Why not fren if fern shaped?

[@scrawnyclownsnatch9656]

"You're a disgrace to all mages" If being a renowned mage means being where you are now, on the ground about to die, then I'll take being a disgrace any day.

[@sethb3090]

"Hang on, that ain't fair." "I was not aware it had to be fair."

[@mbk0mbk]

Lying to face is fair while hiding power isn't, XD

[@johnmichaelarellano9162]

It's amazing that it was because of Freiren that Heiter thought Fern to also suppress her mana at a very young age. Heiter knew that it will also be beneficial to Fern if she also suppresses her mana constantly just like Freiren. The foretelling was superb!

[@averybruhman5060]

Freiren barely even noticed baby Fern's mana at the time when she meet her, so yes, Fern have always been hiding her mana

[@re.liable]

Still feel kinda sorry for Lernen

[@casbdav]

Frieren gave him what he truly wanted that even Lernen himself didn't know. It is not doing something remarkable to be noticed by Serie, but to be ingrained on her mind. Frieren said Serie never forgets about her students and to that Lernen replied he and Serie are alike as they are both not good with words of affirmation.

[@АлексГруднов]

The level of praise Serie casually dished out in that scene is astounding.

[@CheekiTiki]

Hell nah, he tried to murder our girl for the dumbest reason.

[@konstantindrevojorov3550]

​@@CheekiTiki nope, just joke.

[@CheekiTiki]

@@konstantindrevojorov3550 what a silly guy

[@ripLunarBirdCLH]

Actually deceiving your enemy is neither impractical nor pointless.

[@Merumya]

"all warfare is deception"

[@ripLunarBirdCLH]

@@Merumya As a certain World of Warships youtuber says: fair fight is for idiots.

[@MergedAmigo]

​@@ripLunarBirdCLHIt's rare to see another Jingles watcher out in the wild.

[@megablazepr3603]

In this context it kinda is, cuz she could've devoted her life to increasing the amount of mana she has, which would've raised her mana levels near to those of Serie, but instead, she developed the ability to suppress mana just to kill demons, cuz for them, it's unnatural to suppress mana since their social standig is defined by the amount of mana they have, so its a pretty impractical skill for demons to practice or even think about. Which is why they never see Frieren coming.

[@alex2005z]

For a 1 on 1 fight, or small scale fights, it kind of is.

[@Silentguy_]

It was such a cool reveal to know that, despite what she said about suppressing mana being useless, Serie is actually suppressing her gargantuan mana as well AND the only person to ever catch on is Fern.

[@laurielkami1100]

Having not read the rest of the manga i think serie means frieren isnt strong enough to need suppressing her mana , unlike her who would basically ko everyone by her presence like shanks

[@Folsomdsf2]

There's others that know, ya boy denken knows that serie is suppressing her mana s well. Frieren obviously knows as well. There's a couple others as well.

[@Potato-wz4ke]

she doesnt, her mana is unstable

[@XanderFenikkusu]

Wait frieren and Denken know about Serie surpressing her mana? ​@@Folsomdsf2

[@labbit35]

@@Potato-wz4keNo? Even her student didn’t notice the fluctuation and only Fern, who was directly taught by Friren, noticed it.

[@popo74aa]

The crazy part is I bet plenty of demons have had the same revelation as Lügner but in the same position as him, when it's already too late to adapt. But there's a reason she's Frieren the Slayer after all. The amount of techniques she has on top of that trump card make her an absolute monster. She's so damn cool.

[@c00lrthnu]

Could you imagine a scenario where Frieren is sleeping or otherwise incapacitated, and she releases her control unintentionally? Imagine you're just your average low level demon minding your own business, when all of a sudden you feel the equivalent of a small sun appearing a few miles away from you.

[@yazidafifi7701]

Pretty sure that's what happened in 1945, but it's a human world :/

[@vineqar333]

@@yazidafifi7701you are implying Japanese people are demons

[@Krmiby]

I think she can also control it do it while sleeping. It's like practicing breathing techniques in Yoga. First you do it deliberately all day and sometimes return to your usual pattern. But as you practice everyday, your default breathing pattern changes to the one you were practicing (so it's same during sleep too)

[@c00lrthnu]

@@Krmiby yes, she can - this has been established. My point was just purely hypothetical.

[@rosevalety3408]

@@Krmiby Still, that would be a nice point in time in which she stops withholding her powers. I want an unleashed Frieren, solely focused on destroying.

[@hellothere9167]

"That's unfair" said the guy who's entire species focuses on deceiving the other

[@hellothere9167]

Funny thing is serie is also constantly suppressing her mana but because it's so large, her suppressed manaflow looks like she's letting it all out

[@kevintherumble]

As a wise man one said: Mana suppression is like holding in your poop

[@blablableep6811]

These elves are gross..

[@ademmujkanovic6965]

"You're a disgrace to all mages." Fern: "Cry about it."

[@Fgtr4Life]

Lernan's situation still bums me out. He's finally reached the door to mastery of magic by being able to notice that suppressed mana, but he's literally too old to cross the threshold now. 😢

[@salmanmahyuddin8384]

"That is, until this moment, Lernen" dude, what a compliment.

[@JojoJoget]

Fact that demons can’t fathom the concept of suppressing mana

[@TheDarshes]

It's like girl who have bough nice clothes but only wear a baggy and ugly one. It's unthinkable for those who value such things and treat them as sign of status

[@z_zenith]

​@@TheDarshes that maybe works for materialistic people but not regular peeps that can see those can be comfy. To the average person it would be like using makeup to add severe acne and uneven skin. I would never look at someone and wonder this at all.

[@omarjimenezromero3463]

they can do it, but only do it sometimes and not for a long time, if it only until they reach their victim, like when flamme save frieren, and 3 demons appeared, flamme only noticed them when they appear because they were supressing their mana, but they always show off in front of their enemies, but flamme still maintain her mana aura lower to have the chance to kill those 3 demons in a single hit.

[@Phiro00]

Its like a noble choosing to live as a commoner for years. Sometimes a noble might take on a commoner disguise for a purpose, but fully living as one is incomprehensible to them.

[@triomegazero]

It’s cultural blindness. Demons only learn enough about their prey to deceive them. They never bother to learn how they might be deceived. That’s what makes them monsters and not people.

[@MikMoen]

Frieren seems like the type of girl that would break everyone's heart cause she just doesn't care, and she'll outlive them all anyway.

[@Norinia]

She literally does. That’s the whole point of the show. It broke her heart to realize she was too slow to notice the man she admired loved her, and she in turn loved him too. She spends the rest of her practically immortal life remembering specifically him (and their friends), where as she contently left Flamme in the past. I think that speaks volumes in an immortal’s perspective, where a forgetting spell would be so much easier than remembering the pain of realizing too late.

[@reisen9584]

and that is what seerie has become. Frieren is not at that level yet. Frieren is just lucky to encounter himmel co and fern co. Otherwise she would become another seerie

[@fengpost]

Can you imagine if she does not suppress her mana? You have seen here mana field in its natural state when she confronted Aura. If she does not suppress, then every mage within a 2 miles would know a powerful mage is coming. Same goes for Serie. At their level, it is a necessity not an option.

[@Gothic7876]

Serie suppressed Mana is the same as Freiren unsuppressed Mana. Freiren is terrifying because of her sheer power. Serie is more than her.

[@i8jellydonut]

Isn’t Serie also suppressing her mana somewhat as Fern was the only one who noticed?

[@MorokLeviathan]

Yes, Serie is also suppressing her mana. Fern is, too. This video is solely about Frieren's own mana suppression being discovered, however. Edit: I am aware that there are many other mages who cloak their mana output, but the point remains that this video is solely about Frieren's.

[@ajiexyt65-gu9ut]

@@MorokLeviathan sense it the best for mana suppression because stille bird very sensitive to mana and didn't want to closer to mana even Frieren's must stay still to suppressing her mana to get closer to stille but senses can still move around with stille in her head

[@nelg1994]

Frieren warning Serie about fern talent indicate that Frieren also can see Serie's suppresion...

[@ChazFoulstone]

@@ajiexyt65-gu9ut That may be true, but my personal opinion is that the stille can recognise that Sense is a pacifist and detect no ill will towards them in her mana. So even though they detect her mana, they trust her to not hurt them.

[@LuisMercadoorg]

She was suppressing her mana and the radius was still huge

[@Mappster]

Fern also detected how Serie has mana fluctuations

[@AdvancedScummer]

No one really understands just how INSANE heiter seeing Frierens mana is suppressed. This man never got special training, and was definitely weaker than frieren when they started their journey together. This means that even though he was at a MUCH later stage in his life, without any sort of training earlier on - he reached a point at which he could detect somthing that only the Demon King and Lernen(Fern and Syrie) could see. He is GOAT.

[@konstantindrevojorov3550]

They lived together for 10 years. Yep.

[@sirtimothy92]

Aura was unfortunate to encounter Frieren the Low Tier Mage

[@FizzleFX]

0:42 the embodiment of disgraceful wiped the floor with you - Fern

[@deathdoor]

The question remains, does Lernen knows Serie supresses her mana but keps quiet out of respect?

[@jemilanenestj2522]

If so poor him, because that is the only reason Serie doesn't fully acknowledge him😅😅😅😢.

[@minifeebas8911]

absolutely not

[@konstantindrevojorov3550]

Probably. He is a shy boy.

[@rainphantom]

Heiter being able to recognize she's suppresing her mana is quite commendable

[@KordiakRevival]

Calling a mage a sham for suppressing their mana is like demon talking about familial connection, so I guess that's fair.

[@outlawcdd4094]

0:11 the king of Curses was losing to a mere Human and an Elf, How pathetic

[@delphy2478]

it's always funny when evil tricksters like demons complain about the other people not playing 'fair'

[@sethb3090]

I had that experience with a pirate captain in D&D after we outmaneuvered him. "All right, I surrender. Four on one just ain't fair." "I was not aware it had to be fair."

[@jezmoz3977]

Its funny that only Demons cheat or use dirty tricks to win battles. But when someone did it to them they cry and that isn't fair 😂... Its like defeating a hacker in a game and they'll cry soo much

[@gdgd5194]

So if I don't tryhard I'm a hacker? Wtf is that analogy xDDD

[@jezmoz3977]

@@gdgd5194 in games theres a subtle and a blatant cheaters and im talking about blatant ones where they show hacks at the start of the game

[@vukkulvar9769]

Of course they cry about it, they don't care about what they say as long as it gets them what they want.

[@G0ldmoon]

should have ended it with the clip of the guy saying frieren was as powerful as Serie and then later fern saying Serie was supressing her magic.

[@BigHeadClan]

I think the reason why no one realizes Serie is surpassing her mana is because the sheer amount of mana she has even then is insane. So even if people noticed a slight fluctuation before they’d overlook it or never consider someone as strong as Serie actively suppressing her mana. It’s also why people figure out Frieren is suppressing her mana, she is such a legend in the world that her total magic power makes no sense for a mage who fought the demon lord.

[@TheGingusa]

and yet the old man didn't notice that the blonde elf is also surpressing his mana

[@luiss428]

dang, the scene with heiter gives me shivers because serie is right. just as how demons can never fathom being lied to about something as crucial as mana supply, elves can never comprehend that the human population is basically moving at supersonic speed compared to them. elves live long, but, quite literally, "look how much time they need to mimic a fraction of our power" i love media that exemplifies the stengths of humans. we are also a specie among elves, demons, and what not in fantasy settings. surely we have our own advantages :)

[@tedweird]

"what you've done isn't fair. You're a disgrace to all mages." Yeah, but you're the one bleeding out on the ground.

[@villagracia_1119]

Heiter knows his stuff even genius mages don't know that Frieren is suppressing her mana.

[@shatterpoint23]

This impractical skill is stil used by Serie, which was found out by Fern.

[@edi9892]

The irony of Luegner complaining about being deceived...

[@effi6286]

He literally said "I understand it now" and lost anyways 😭

[@renoapriliyandi4648]

1:29 what episode is this?

[@MorokLeviathan]

Episode 11, near the end of the episode.

[@Channie0523]

imagine you have a big fat belly. you dont want it to be seen through your skin tight clothing, so you suppress it to make it smaller. over time it becomes painful and harder to maintain. this is what i imagine how mana suppression works and its hard as heck especially keeping it up for a very long time. no wonder why people do not bother suppressing theirs, because as they said in the series theres no merit in doing it aside from fooling the overconfident demons.

[@quickstep2408]

so she's basically a covert demon slayer agent by hiding her mana like that. cool

[@eternia-reginleif]

"showing off is the fool's idea of glory" -Bruce lee

[@wishAnew]

"What you did is Unfair" said by one of 2 most wicked races

[@vukkulvar9769]

Demons would say anything as long as it get them what they want. They just don't care or feel shame for what they say.

[@iselybaby6540]

​@@vukkulvar9769it's about mages vs mages , it's nothing about the race

[@vukkulvar9769]

@@iselybaby6540 Race is everything, did you watch the show? Demons don't care about the words they use.

[@iselybaby6540]

@@vukkulvar9769 yea I watch everything read about it . But hiding mana isn't about the race ,it's all about mage vs mage . That's why flamme emphasised that they should embrace the Idea of being deceitful and coward mage. HIDING MANA ISN'T ABOUT RACE and demons being liar . It's about mage being proud with wht they have accumulated and mastered. Did you actually watch the show ?

[@vukkulvar9769]

@@iselybaby6540 No, it has nothing to do with being a mage. Even Serie hide her mana and you couldn't find a proudest mage.

[@LoneIcon]

therefore... identifying if someone is surpressing their mana was also a skill because the rest of Lerner colleagues didnt even recognized it. It also show how skillfull is Heiter :D

[@madensmith7014]

Heiter is skilled to some extent but I think it has to do more with their 10 years of journeying together that he has bound to have seen the oddities in Freiren's mana or a couple fluctuations during some intense moments when Freiren couldn't have focused on suppression. Heiter isn't that skilled compared to the Serie's disciple who saw through it at first glance.

[@centor111]

​​@@madensmith7014 heiter as a 'mage' is as strong as a first class mage purely as a byproduct of how insane he is as a priest. He was the second (known) user of Zoltraak after Qual, so he has really good magic detection/analysis since he copied it. He would stomp most of the first class mages unless they could one shot him due to his insane support class abilities, but also his offensive magic.

[@alexanderhamilton4258]

​@@centor111He's also one of the only people to be able to outclass Freiren on resisting curses from even the highest demons, showing real potency as a priest.

[@avatarxs9377]

it's actually crazy that haiter realized she is suppresing her mana, he isn't even a mage.

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

Here were are given a small glimpse at Hitler power as a mage. As a human, after 10 years, saw the mana suppression - compare that to Aura who lived 500 years and saw no change in 50; remember demons are acutely aware of mana manipulation, almost precisely. We also see another person in the Hero’s party whose contribution to Frieren’s growth as a character and as a mage. And it was by a human she constantly ridiculed as a drunk corrupt priest. Besides headpets, he was the one who created her staff *_AND_* taught her the offensive spell Zoltrek. The anime failed to give this contribution to Hitler, mainly giving most praise and memories to Himmler Edit: *_HEITER and HIMMEL_* God damn autocorrect doesn’t recognize those character names but definitely recognizes those…

[@Folsomdsf2]

Heiter didn't actually know. Himmel is the one that knew and told him. Himmel always knew. Himmel is way stronger than anyone knows but I think the show will expand on that soon.

[@somerandomguy29]

Crazy, Heiter could've been an amazing mage

[@Chocoboo__]

Hold on. Aura said her suppressed mana was that of a 100 year old mage... Heiter said her mana was about a fifth of his when they met. Heiter was as strong as a 500 year old mage?!?

[@Remembrancer]

I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the best anime between 2020 and 2030

[@Vouzmevoyash]

Wow Heiter has very nice voice, soo relaxing

[@killerbee8324]

If Heiter is mad af, he would've ve been the wealthiest priest. He should be the number 1 go-to support in the world!

[@jollygirl94]

So basically, Serie, Lernen, demon king, Fern and possibly Methode(since she’s good at detecting mana despite clone Fern suppressing her mana) Knows she’s hiding her mana? (What bout Himmel and Aisen ?)

[@chaoticneutralgiraffe5514]

Demon's will try to say anything to make you feel bad or vulnerable.... she's not a shame to all mages, she's a blessing!!

[@ralphael3379]

The most surprising here isn't that she is suppressing her mana, its the fact that she is part of the party that killed the demon king yet these demons don't know her😂

[@kaelren4120]

Lernen, a genius that was born in a wrong era. if he was born in the Himmel era, he's 100% will be one of the heroes of that era

[@xiaotaotao7198]

Now I know how haiter gets the courage to be drunk in a world full of demons.....but damn those male demons got looks

[@sewoh100]

Ah, the ol' Columbo Gambit

[@NumeriSuntDeus]

This is why Frieren is called the disgraced mage (don't remember which episode it was). A mage suppressing their mana is like a swordsman using poison in a duel.

[@gdgd5194]

So basically kids these days are so lame that they think Goku and Vegeta are disgraceful. Roger.

[@FrauZehel]

​@@gdgd5194somebody obviously didnt watch Frieren or didnt even understood what they watched. Its the setting of its own world. It has nothing to do with laws of other fiction. And in its world, mages supressing mana being a disgrace makes sense. Thats called proper worl building and grwat writing.

[@gdgd5194]

@@FrauZehel "Didn't understood". Yeah, a fellow scholar with great insight spotted. You obviously understand everything better than others :DDD Don't be delusional, it's not fun.

[@dettonate]

What exactly was discovered?

[@lanowen]

Frieren: "Hmm hmm."

[@paranoidkermit1698]

Frieren keeps saying she’s lived for 1000 years which isn’t inherently wrong, but that’s how long since she was found by Flamme. Given that she looks like she’s in her mid-late 20’s during her journey and she looks like a teenager when Flamme finds her, I think it would be accurate to assume that Frieren is somewhere in the region of 2500-3000 years old in total now

[@konstantindrevojorov3550]

Nope. 1200-1300 years. Frieren. She is underage.

[@ikkunmura]

oh to watch frieren for the first time again

[@fadilvi]

Good anime doesn't need go boing boing and pretty face..frieren is the epic culmination of it.

[@davejohn3600]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's revealed that suppressing it increases it. Also wouldn't be surprised if Fern's is rather large when it's revealed.

[@FrauZehel]

Nah. Serie said it herself. Frieren is relatively weak for her age because she focuses on supressing her mana instea.

[@davejohn3600]

@@FrauZehel Doesn't she do the same thing?

[@Matthew-gl8fv]

​@@davejohn3600Yes but not to the same degree, she's also far far older that Frieren.

[@pishbol-kwek]

Truly a gamer

[@OwGash]

Ngl tho that aura was hella cute/hawt

[@chrissaiko2626]

I bet Hero party has the same reputation like from Damn Reincarnation Manhwa. Like If they have nicknames from human side as well aa on demons because dang man, theie partt consist of monsters 😂 An Elf that's disciple of greatest mage Flamme and suppressing mana almost her entire life. A Dwarve that's a solid tank and could crash a diamond into a powder with its barehands. A Human Priest that currently so far most powerful one on its class we have seen with high mental defense and survivability. A Human Hero who an early hae killed a giant bird monster, made demons hide till he died, still able to kill monsters and demons as an old man and a "fake" hero that actually ended the demon king with a handicap of not having the hero sword 🔥

[@xiaolv1836]

Frieren specialized in demon slaying basically all her ability counter demon so bad that in the manga she event crack the gold curse At current era Fern as frieren apprentice is great at controlling mana and detecting it, surpass most of all mage

[@jemilanenestj2522]

Still you don't acknowledge him fully because he can't see through your mana suppression 😢😢

[@bimaprabowo4570]

that old man know, for someone especially mage that live for thousands of year, yet she only have that much mana.

[@rpgsprenkeldemon3704]

U left out when fern notices serie Imo that’s the most impressive one Now I wonder if frieren noticed but just didn’t comment on it

[@louiskeep1832]

I bet Flamme is an absolute beast at poker. Meanwhile demons generally suck at it!

[@TheTodesrolle]

where fern seeing series mana?

[@brownoutee]

I came from the manga Lernen is really that strong.

[@ViolentKasle]

I love this fucking anime so much 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@xxx-lq7ho]

Even Ainz do it not showing his mana and doing fake warrior cosplay but ainz cant do it passive due his build he use rings with enhancement

[@tsurara6820]

LOL impractical isnt Serie? but you are also doing it

[@gneminerift7485]

Wouldn't that be crazy if the Demon King was a human who developed the demon race out of magical experiments -- given he was considered a great scientist and heavily researched Magic.

[@konstantindrevojorov3550]

His life - minimum 1.500-2000 years. He is not human.

[@kaigyuro8033]

just simply curious, this is subject to copyrights, right? How is it not taken down? Last time when I posted similar content, it got taken down by KZbin.

[@MorokLeviathan]

I made a bunch of cuts, not all of the dialogue and scenes from the episodes were shown, though I still tried my best to make it as 'natural' and 'comprehensible' as possible.

[@lukaspriyambodo]

Frieren is basicaly Frieza

[@damocles5047]

The final impact is missing, that scale. and the girl..

[@RandomVids99-rs]

How tf serie know only demon king has saw through frieren supressing her mana? And serie is a freaking monster lol easily the strongest character ,her suppressing her mana is equivalent to frieren full mana output

[@Nerazmus]

She was probably scrying or something. She wouldn't miss a fight like that.

[@rbsalmon7895]

I mean Serie is a big shot. Any reports that came from frieren's party will def reach her

[@RandomVids99-rs]

@@rbsalmon7895 nah lmao,that detail was only known to the members fighting the dk.why would they report something like this and literally nobody in the world know frieren true mana except a few.my guess is that serie probably have a magic that can see from everywhere like eida from boruto

[@sharonarif7004]

The last guy lied

[@chettonex]

I still dont buy that demons are that stupid to not know that showing your entire strength is a terrible idea. Showing your power is as silly as playing poker showing your cards. Other than intimidation porpuses there is no military/combat advantage on showing your entire strength. Doing so lets your enemy estimate / calculate how much strength they require to beat you. It is an interesting twist on the series, but being realistic it is extremely silly. Demons just cant be that proud to justify being idiots. Being beaten once by the hero makes it even more silly as it showed Demons that they can be beaten by humans (and elves), so they shouldnt be so proud of their powers as it was proved that they can be beaten.

[@DiegoDIOSAO]

Flamme explained that strength/might/power is essentially the Demons' way to recognize one's status (in their society). Basically, whether you should obey him/her, or whether you should be the one who should be obeyed. There doesn't seem to be a need for them to hide the amount of mana they possess when only other Demons, or 'exceptions' (Frieren, Serie, Himmel, etc.) can overpower them, whether they hide their mana or not. And I think this makes sense. Demons are simple-minded creatures and it explains why Frieren considers them to be nothing more than monsters/animals. Most Demons probably wouldn't think of hiding their power permanently after surviving an encounter with Himmel for example. Himmel can't see mana anyway so he likely won't underestimate any Demon no matter what.

[@nameless6159]

They show mana to dominate other demons, It's part of their "society", the thing is, most Demons are much more powerful than humans and are acustomed to being the one with higher mana, for them, mana is like a badge that gives them power and ranks in their society, that's the reason behind them showing off their mana, even then, Frieren's mana supression is almost perfect, there is only a handful of mages capable of hiding their mana in front of a Demon But it's still fantasy, I think leaving out some logic for a better story is acceptable.

[@mizu7662]

It doesn't make sense because you are ignoring pieces of the puzzle (despite it being referenced in the video when Aura calls BS on Frieren hiding her power because she 'isn't showing the signs that appear when suppressing your mana output'). Namely, the part where there are signs you can see that make it clear you are hiding your power. Frieren has been doing it nonstop for a literal millennia and there are still signs that a sufficiently perceptive person can see to pick out that she is doing it. Hiding your true strength is a lot less effective when hiding it involves wearing a big sign telling people you are hiding your true powers so they know to expect you have extra strength in reserve. Frieren isn't an oddity because she is the only one willing to pull such a 'dirty trick', she is an oddity because she can actually pull it off in a way that leaves 99.99% of her opponents not realizing she is hiding her true power level. So between their pride in their power as a mark of social standing and their belief that trying to hide your power is pointless anyway because its not going to surprise anyone it makes sense that demons don't bother doing it.

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

1. Demons are more powerful than humans. 2. If they try to limit their power, they will lose dignity. They have long lives. 3. There is no reason to hide their powers, except for cases of stealth. Hide from who? 4. They can see when someone is suppressing mana. You need 100-200+ YEARS of training to fool them. No human can do this. 5. They have already beaten their worst enemies: the elves. Very few remain. 6. They love magic. They love to learn while fighting, and advance their magic. They know they'll win all out. 7. Enemy is not going to get away and become much more powerful, such that this might come back to bite them. 8. Intimidation. A panicked enemy is easier to trick and kill. 9. If all else fails, they still have words. They can escape and come back. 10. Frieren is unique, there is only a single one of her. Also, she's not that well known, and nobody survives knowing her secret.

[@jcfm1629]

Tell me you didnt watch the anime without telling me you didnt watch the anime. 😂 Demon society is dictated by mana. Mana defines who will lead and who will follow. Take the example of Flamme wherein a noble would sometimes wear beggar’s clothes and go incognito to visit the commoner’s market, but would never ever forego his wealth and status. Same goes for demons in that they might conceal their mana in order to ambush prey, but would never take the time and effort to completely conceal it throughout. Next time watch the anime before you open your mouth. 😂

[@GoustiFruit]

Lots of foreign words and names in the anime. French, German,Italian...

[@magnoUo]

Does every girl in Frieren have huge cheeks?

[@andyboy2]

Goku did it first