"Fury v NGannou is BAD for boxing." - 12 Rounds with Tony Bellew part two

[@darthvaper6745]

Could have watched this for hours. So much fun. Nice to hear proper banter

[@wormsnake1]

Carl you are taking over boxing on utube. A legend inside of the the ring and a brilliant analyst outside of it. I admire that you are not afraid to disagree with anyone and you call it the way it is. Great to see the channel growing and its easily the best out there. 🥊.

[@timothypearce2633]

Tony actually said at one point that AJ was holding up Helanius rather than choosing to knock him out, that was outrageous bias

[@shanebrennan144]

I did try to listen to Bellew because this channel has been great so far but the constant Matchroom bias clouds every boxing thought he has sadly

[@BullyBoxer]

@@shanebrennan144he’s a better matchroom spin doctor than he ever was a poor world champion. 😂

[@ritid69]

@@BullyBoxernever won a belt from a champion,I’m sure they where vacant

[@GiantSandles]

I think the next time they went to the corner was when you heard AJ explicitly say to Derrick James he couldn’t find the right hand lol

[@nishiki7047]

@@BullyBoxerPoor world champion ? WTF ? I was only ever a regional champion in my chosen sport ( when a lot younger lol) Have you been a champion of any kind ?

[@401files4]

I love how straight talking froch is. He doesn’t shy away from speaking openly and honestly

[@matthew-jy5jp]

Isn't it funny that the only one he speaks openly about is other people ? I'm not sure how much brain damage you actually have. But maybe you should do some research on these people you praise

[@Bigtimecharlie1349]

Yeh he’s good marv 😂

[@theshed3641]

@@Bigtimecharlie1349can’t believe he used to burgle houses

[@amitk2784]

Its still obviously his opinion

[@Dan-qk3mt]

Strangely, most people only like and respect “open and honest” statements when they’re saying what they want to hear.

[@TheBarnz91]

That was brilliant Carl! Great questions and discussions! Can’t wait for part 2!! This channel is quality!

[@carlfroch1703]

Thanks Barney 👊🏼

[@robsmith7986]

100% the conversation we needed to hear! Quality honest and clear! Smashed it lads

[@roymunson1]

Bellew needs to put the pom poms down when talking about Joshua. Nobody wants to listen to a heavily biased view. The "learning on the job" line is long spent.

[@Metso-ateco]

He turns 34 in october 🤷‍♂️

[@Fathervinyard]

aj is a sponge though 🤣

[@DavyRo]

This is a quality boxing discussion, it does my head in when you get these people lagging these lads off. Both ex world champions what more can you do? I respect these 2 massively, Froch has a funny sense of humour many don't get & it rubs them up the wrong way. Tony Bellew wears his heart on his sleave. I love it when Froch is on with George Groves also.

[@placed6187]

Tony Bellew rightfully gets criticised for how biased he is

[@geedee1264]

Quality boxing and so relatable, "Its 60 million without tax" true men of the people

[@seamust1181]

Bellew won a vacant world title, he was never a world level fighter

[@robwood8331]

Bellew never beat a champion

[@theemperorofboxingtruth3745]

“Tony, do you think AJ can cone back from having both arms cut off”. Tony - “Yeah, I think he can”.

[@MenageWorldEntertainment]

That's loyalty...something clearly missing in the world today.

[@Tommy-pz2yc]

​@@MenageWorldEntertainmentthen he shouldn't be commentating on Ajs fights. Because it's clear bias. When it's close rounds he will swing to Ajs side and that's not right, a commentator needs to be unbias.

[@pmc9194]

@@MenageWorldEntertainment lol, that's not loyalty - that's a yes man. Loyalty is simply sticking to someone for support, not blowing smoke up their arse and removing incentive for them to improve. Imagine questioning your own mum's loyalty because she doesn't want your arm-less self (pun not intended) getting into a ring with Deontay Wilder.

[@MenageWorldEntertainment]

@@pmc9194 ok...went a bit far for the analogy🤣🤣🤣, but fair enough

[@thesupervisor820]

​@@MenageWorldEntertainment*delusion

[@alambyant]

Bellew is AJ’s public relations officer.

[@johnheaton667]

thats a mild description😅😅

[@bobj2447]

Matchrooms mouthpiece

[@do5231]

😂😂

[@shiteycj2kz]

froch used to shut his eyes throwing punches and very little talent hall of famer my arse Bute was terrible froch wouldn't live with the likes of hearns hagler Duran Leonard mugabi Barkley ect

[@thetrackmasterman3087]

If he isn’t already signed to that contract, give it a week.

[@petel2551]

I always enjoy listening to both these guys. Always engaging always opinionated, never dull.

[@ironcrusader728]

Carl yes, but not so much Tony these days he is so predictable and bias towards anything hearn and AJ he is just a shill at this point, atleast Carl will call out both sides

[@powpow9560]

Tony used to be that way, he's a company man now unfortunately

[@lizardfuel9]

Everyone can see AJ isn't the figher he once was. He is afraid to let's his hands go in fear of getting hurt. It must be difficult for him to deal with.

[@antoniomatthews4459]

So he should let his hands go like an idiot and get caught again, and not start fighting smart like Wlad did. Yeah, that makes sense.

[@ccovnottz]

@@antoniomatthews4459no, he needs to find a happy medium! He’s all defence, defence, defence now, he needs to be cautious but not this cautious lol 🥊🇬🇧

[@TheGreatest1974]

@@antoniomatthews4459no what he means is, at least TRY and ko the opponent instead of never trying to. AJ could’ve had Hellenius out of there far quicker than he did if he had just unloaded more. God, it doesn’t mean you’re going to get yourself ko’d just because you try and get a guy out of there? AJ has the big guns to do it to anyone but he hardly ever uses them anymore and that’s bad, because he IS a massive puncher and that’s a huge weapon in his make up as a fighter that he isn’t using.

[@alambyant]

AJ was overhyped from the beginning. Handed world titles on a plate and spent years fighting absolute dustbins. As soon as he tried to step it up he got exposed and everybody knows the fat Mexican didn’t even train for the rematch when dosser AJ beat him. I just think it’s funny that so many people fell for it and actually thought AJ was a top boxer lol

[@domsmithsen]

​@alambyant shut up u clown lol Aj handed titles ?? Are u on crack lol he fought he beat the champions to get two of them titles wbo Joe Parker and IBF Charles Martin then the WBA against Vladimir because Fury got stripped of them how was he handed them exactly lol

[@mrc.p8423]

This was a great watch

[@lukebrown8580]

Thanks for the 12 rounds of AJ and bellew vs Froch 🎣

[@BoxingKingMedia]

A dream pairing this. Great watch

[@ifidontknownooneknows]

Bellew trying to deffend Joshua no matter what 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 it is funny

[@josephobi.837]

It’s embarrassing.

[@mrneveryoumind]

Great show. Enjoyed it.

[@simmysimmy3748]

Love these , interesting and insightful, 👍

[@stevesasq6853]

Great episode. I could listen to these two legends all day

[@Staton84]

Truth is very few people enjoy Tony's commentary and analysis,It's his out and out loyalty for Eddie bleeds through to his work on the night even if he can't see it, Rather than have people call the action who we want to see we get the matchroom boys club and nobodys interested,Big Dave price should be the Scouser on comms for example but he'd call it for what it is.

[@theemperorofboxingtruth3745]

100%. If my regional knowledge serves me correctly, many of Tony’s fellow Liverpudlians would actually describe him, and please do forgive my use of potty language, as a gobshite.

[@Chris-nj1mr]

What an interview! 2 straight shooters having it out 😂 I love the direct approach to both, but I'm back Carl on this, less bias.

[@DTM93]

Love tuning in for Bellew believe you me you're going to get a completely unbiased straight up honest opinion on anything related to AJ and Matchroom.

[@dogbastardly6101]

I love how honest Froch is, regardless of who he is talking to or about, friend or foe.

[@theemperorofboxingtruth3745]

I’m sure that Tony’s age of working on the doors as a bouncer is getting younger. I think it’s only a matter of time before we hear. “..when I was working on the doors at the age of 7”.

[@Veritas-dq2hs]

😂

[@IGKMrNice1973]

😅😅😅

[@Rob-e4f]

Froch on bellew " Please answer your best honest answer that you always do" 😂😂😂😂

[@Rob060870]

This is a really good chat, great channel 👍 👏 👌

[@GarethSewell1982]

I used to think Froch and Bellew were nobs, but now there is no one I would rather listen to in boxing, they make a fantastic double-act too! Keep up the good work! 👍

[@Rob-e4f]

You actually listen to Bellew you poor sorry sole.

[@stewartwatson3871]

Well bellew is still is a NOB

[@FiberBetrippin]

Love the content recently Carl Keep em coming!

[@vantheman1238]

Well said Carl. So glad that you did not agree with Tony on the £60m and getting knocked out. There is no way you would jeopardise your legacy for money and you said it. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🥊

[@ThePunchDrunkard.]

Fair play Tony, it must be exhausting backing Joshua to this extent! 👏👏👏

[@bobbybox3968]

Froch growing a beard gives him an excuse to show off his Rolex every 3 minutes 😂

[@sambagogo777]

Maybe Joshua has an Everton FC tattoo somewhere because there has to be a reason for Bellew's infatuation!

[@alambyant]

Maybe AJ has shot too much of his spunk into Bellew’s mouth and it’s affected his brain.

[@Fathervinyard]

@@alambyantbaby batter 🤢🤢

[@staffh3815]

Badou jack would beat bellew 6 day a week and twice on a Sunday, 😂

[@christopherellison3443]

Really enjoyed that. Felt like we could be sat round a table with a pint. Keep them coming. Awesome.

[@martincolton32]

He’s not the same fighter since Ruiz battered him Frochy. Looks gun shy.

[@antoniomatthews4459]

How did he KO Pulev then?

[@chrisnewell1065]

​@@antoniomatthews4459pulev old and past it and wasn't that good even at his prime.

[@antoniomatthews4459]

@@chrisnewell1065 he was 39, same age as Wlad when he fought Fury. Pulev only had 1 loss and ranked Ring #10

[@martincolton32]

@@antoniomatthews4459 AJ before he fought Ruiz would of pulverised Pulev in about 2 rounds. I don’t think you actually know what being gun shy actually means fella

[@antoniomatthews4459]

@@martincolton32 really because he didn't pulverize Povetkin in 2 rounds, Parker either.

[@dannykolasinski-nm6yn]

Fantastic insight from both chaps. Looking forward to seeing part deux.

[@MrBarry465]

All well and good for Bellew to say 'if Wilder comes at him AJ will have to swing and he will', but he is just as likely to crumble in a heap as soon as Wilder goes at him. I think it will be similar to Tyson vs Bruno 2 tbh - with AJ walking to the ring terrified.

[@roymunson1]

Getting dragged in kicking and screaming more like.

[@chrismostert5338]

At least AJ's never backed down or ducked a fight unlike a VERY overrated so called champion who now wants to take on a guy whose never boxed before, and can only insult real champions such as the likes of Usyk and Joshua, including ex champs like Froch and Bellew. Talk about bringing boxing into disrepute ??

[@jamiehall8188]

Keep this coming brilliant listen

[@TheGreatest1974]

Nobody ever knocked out Ali. Yes he was retired against Holmes when he was actually fighting while ill. Even a peak young Foreman couldn’t knock Ali out. Good call Tony.

[@t.d6379]

He was stopped, period.

[@powpow9560]

but not knocked out@@t.d6379

[@THEDOGFATHERL11]

​@@t.d6379getting stopped and knocked out are 2 different things

[@Mrsusan1000]

Yet came very close against an average Henry cooper

[@TheGreatest1974]

@@Mrsusan1000 yes copper came very close! 👍

[@tonyyoung_wry]

Thank you Carl. Bang on and honest as always

[@ratcatcher6018]

Thank you Carl for being honest with your views ,it's refreshing boxing needs more plain talking and common sense 👊

[@robwood8331]

Porkys corner

[@lancslad1972]

Said it before and I'll say it again froch on fighting is easily the best channel on here props to the cobra on a brilliant channel thanks carl all the best mate hope you get another reward to go with your hall of fame ring

[@carlfroch1703]

Appreciate the kind words 👊🏼🙏🏼

[@deeppiledreams]

Eubank Jr adapted his game perfectly after a devastating loss, cautious yet busy and still taking his opportunities to hurt his opponent. AJ needs to show more intent that is obvious, agree with Froch.

[@user-fw5tr8ht1e]

Smith was a stiff in that fight. There to be hit, threw nothing back. Eubank Jr's next fight will determine how he's recovered. It must be a top level opponent

[@deeppiledreams]

​@@user-fw5tr8ht1e True, the proof for Eubank will be what happens next, this fight will give him huge confidence though and is a solid template for success. Compare that to AJ in the Ruiz rematch, he had no intention of engaging, that is not good enough against the very top level guys.

[@chrishart5474]

Definitely a big fan of Froch channel and commentary … he doesn’t talk crap like lots of others

[@tomboon6020]

I'm a big fan of both these two, I really respect Tony's loyalty to his people.Also Carl's straight talking is a breath of fresh air. Bellew was one of the most underrated British boxers imo. Great video fellas 👏

[@allpraiseduetogod]

2 knobs talking, I can see this at my local pub..move on

[@tomboon6020]

@@allpraiseduetogod 🤣🤣 yeh two former world champions, see that down the local 🙄

[@johnharrison7612]

Excellent chat. Real. Tony Belles. Couldn't stand him when he was on the way up, but I think he's great these days. Bit like I changed my mind on Steve Davis & John McEnroe. Top, top guest. World weary, but very cool You're ok too, Carl...

[@kie1996]

Bellew’s score cards are always outrageous

[@danieltucker22]

Carl froch is by far the best boxing channel for content out there. Says it how it is to regardless of who he’s saying it to

[@Dan-kg4np]

Bellew is so pro AJ its hard for him to criticise him at any turn. If Wilder ko’d AJ it would be over for him mate ffs 🤣

[@RPT369]

Ace these videos 💪🏾

[@2eddietheeagle]

AJ and Dubois are both good boxers but Iv seen it to many times in them both It’s that all consuming fear in their eyes they have.they remind me of frank bruno from back in the day.

[@allseeingry2487]

Such a good interview, proper fanboy on this one. Banging. Built for long format.

[@dazzobear8451]

Ruiz would be a terrible fight next for jousha i think, ruiz is fast and hes fitter than hes ever been. Overweight ruiz yes lol

[@powpow9560]

yeah and AJ would be getting Vietnam flashbacks

[@TheExtinctSpecies]

This is good in my opinion Karl, the conversations needed. Keep it up with good people like Tony

[@LOZZDPUNCHOUTTV]

Tony needs to remove his tongue from A J behind

[@Podsey]

Love the chat between these two!

[@josephobi.837]

I knew Bellew would come on kissing the backside of Joshua. He always has. No matter how bad Joshua is, Bellend will kiss backside. Embarrassing.

[@MikeOxlong12]

Great watch and max respect to Tony for all he's achieved but he'd deluded about all things Joshua.

[@cyberwess-007]

Appreciate Tony and froch's insight, British beef at it's best!!!

[@someguy7842]

Cant fault a guy for loyalty

[@johnwilliamson1766]

Great show . Keep going it getting better each time 🥊

[@tuaman2009]

In fairness Bellew just wants Joshua to get home to his family........and shop at black owned businesses.

[@antoniomatthews4459]

Better than shopping at a racist owned shop.

[@VCanisMajorisY]

Blackrock owned businesses.

[@SuperChalkster]

yeah thats all well and good but who is going to pay kugans water bill.

[@silverfox1silverfox496]

Massive supporter bug up Carl 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🔥🔥🔥

[@mrfreeze2446]

Love the bellew that froch seems to bring out everytime, Carl froch is like boxing's Roger Cook but he's rock hard & likeable so it fly's & people play ball 😂

[@stephenblackwell9643]

Can’t listen to Belew talk about AJ any longer. Wilder puts AJ in hospital within 4

[@kieranhudson4938]

Bellew thought about returning for a fight but then he reminded himself that he wants to get home safe to his family.

[@laurarules3642]

LMFAO How I miss these comments

[@Griggadee]

😂 brilliant

[@frontrowmovies566]

You'll neva see me again kooogz

[@1234537564534231234]

Good comment. Hope you got home safe to your family after making it.

[@stephenh9483]

love this and love your channel!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@thejudge-kv2jk]

Good solid debate. Well done gents.

[@BillyTheButcherShannon]

Toney was naturally smaller and punch-drunk by the time he ‘fought’ Couture. Interesting that Tony didn’t mention former UFC champion Tim Sylvia getting starched in 12 seconds by 50-year old Ray Mercer.

[@leebillyc1677]

correct about Sylvia and I think Fury vs Ngannou in a cage is not as straight forward for Ngannou as people are saying

[@BillyTheButcherShannon]

@@leebillyc1677 I agree mate. It only takes one punch and Fury’s long right hand and uppercut with those tiny MMA mitts on could be dangerous

[@Daxman360]

Class interview. Carl on top form. Bellew too. But although his loyalty to AJ (matchroom/dazn/his job) is admirable. Its very transparent. Props to The Cobra for saying AJ is gun shy and hasn't shown anything in the last few fights to suggest he has a chance against Wilder. As for Fury. Don't even go there.

[@BruvvaUK]

Wont lie could have wacthed another hour of that. Love Bellew

[@stephenboddy7489]

Two greats of British boxing - imagine it would be brilliant to have a couple of pints with these two, you would never get a word in but the craic would be too notch!

[@welshieworldwide]

I’m not overly fussed what Bellew says, just hope he gets home safe to his wife and kids

[@steveteitelbaum1186]

Amazing content 👌

[@SuperChalkster]

Tony Bell end

[@finlay5813]

Boxing is the best sport in the world 🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊

[@MJRYT19]

This is so class 👊

[@shevoneduncanson7001]

These two are always great together love it .

[@Itsallgonequietoverthere]

Could tell you were enjoying it. That's what matters. Cheers fellas. Great discussion.👍

[@Tomtomjameson]

These 2 together are a force, love to see these 2 sit AJ down and try help

[@Chuckson56]

Its truly ridiculous and embarrassing that the recognised best HW on the planet is fighting an MMA fighter. Could you imagine the King of Tennis Novak Djokovic playing the ping pong champion in the best of five sets? Absolutely stupid idea and even if he makes a ton of money it doesn't make it right.

[@RK-ng1jv]

I love these two, sort the microphones out please!

[@G22865]

Enjoyed this. Boxers talking instead of someone else asking questions

[@mauricedottore9807]

That was a good viewing 💪

[@brianfl4155]

Froch and Bellew have good chemistry...both were relentless fighters ....straight talkers ...mutual respect...very entertaining

[@robwood8331]

You didnt fight the proper David Haye . Terry Chapaandama explained how he was brought in for sparring for Haye for that fight and Haye was totally shot and injured beyond repair to boot. Thats why you took the fights Tony and you know it.

[@richadambudgen7520]

The best boxing channel on KZbin without doubt. (Rummy’s corner my second favourite on a totally different vibe)

[@uncertaintyprincipal7119]

The Cobra is surprising me with the quality of these videos. Keep up the great work.

[@firecook4848]

The thing is Carl pound for pound you have a better chin than aj , that’s why he now fights more cautious , imho. He’s not the same fighter as he was .

[@MercuryCircuit]

Great listening to you two legends of British boxing 👍🙂

[@richjackson8349]

So good to listen to two excellent human beings who understand boxing and have no agenda - rather than the Spencer Oliver or Gareth A Davies’ of this world. Elite level fighters who know the game and are honest in their opinions, underpinned by the highest level of knowledge.

[@robertbailey-si1yl]

People are going on bout AJ and don't say anything bout wilder who hasn't fought in 2 years and got battered buy fury so we don't know what he's like and I still think AJ wins that fight

[@nobutyeh]

Carl and Tony, the two must honest people in boxing, could listen to these lads all day

[@Eagle356-f9o]

Froch as always bang on with Joshua.

[@clj.4874]

When he lost to Ruiz , that was it for joshua. He been defensive ever since, has not let his hands go like he used too, and he has looked a complete different fighter. If he has that mindset against wilder, it be over in 4 rounds.

[@trolleysnatcha]

Froch hates that AJ's legacy is bigger than his but its still funny to watch

[@garethreynolds8798]

20:04, exactly, mw went from an offence boxer to a defensive boxer. He adapted, "You can see that in his last 20 fights."

[@creativeartist83]

100% aj wilder is the more exciting fight. Ive given up on Fury now.. but Aj Fury is probably the one id like to see above any other

[@NedKelly28]

Carl were proper trying fert not laugh on some of BellEnds answers, did a great job theere

[@h.m.s6562]

Loves these two together proper boxers no bullshit keep up the good work lads

[@startroops610]

Just to correct bellew mayweather gained bad hands so he stopped knocking people out amd used more padded gloves which was grant gloves

[@stephensearles673]

Also Floyd started at 130 and went up 5 weight divisions though guys were much bigger but the constant breaking of his hands definitely made him change his style