FROG FISHING MYTHS (WILL ANYONE AGREE WITH ME?)

Over the years I've heard a lot of things about frog fishing that I don't always agree with. In this video I'll break down some of those myths and tell you why I don't believe many of them. I have a feeling some won't agree.

[@jakehigdonfishing]

love this frog. went to a pond the other day to try and get better at frog fishing, and wacked em. i was throwing 65lb braid on a 7’3 lews mach swim jig rod that i got on sale last christmas. absolutely loved it. i enjoy fishing with baits you’ve designed knowing that you’ve thought about almost every little detail

[@timscruggs7611]

Todd....I believe you! You have really simplified this technique. Nobody has more hours in this. Right? Just got a rod exclusively for frogs. Really light and lots of backbone. KVD GC5. See what you think. Can't wait to try it!

[@mikerice8185]

Great video Todd.

[@NHBackcountryGuide]

Just my opinion, bass kill a frog a lot but don't actually commit to eat it. They can spit it fast. Sometimes you'll miss them. If the frog is gone, I set the hook. If I can't tell if the frog is gone (low light), I set the hook after a blowup. Sometimes it's a miss. I use an 8:1 reel so I can get the frog back out there IF I miss it. I've caught fish on the second cast after I pull it away from them. For retrieves, I do vary it a lot. Sometimes I reel fast for a second and kill it to let it sit; mice that panic act like this. There have been times that the only way I could get a bit is to move is a yard or two really fast and kill it. I always start walking a frog. Sometimes it's a steady walk, but I'll throw a stop-and-go walk in. I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I'm from New Hampshire and there is a lot of vegetation and I've fished frogs in water with 8 foot visibility with braid. Bass will destroy this bait in clear water even with braid. I live in Texas now and Ray Roberts is my home lake.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Ray Roberts is an awesome frog lake at times

[@countryfriedfishing]

Myth 1-agreed 100%,,,,Myth 2-def mood of the fish and where your fishing,,,,Myth 3- agreed but again,depends on location. Ive never felt that the bass think its a frog. As far as bending the hooks out im a firm believer that if ive got to bend the hooks out im either using the wrong rod or the frog belongs in the trash period. Nobody will ever change my mind on that.

[@VitaminDeeTV]

Nice video! Subbed!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Hey, thanks!

[@kenappleby8481]

Excellent video. I'm pumped for the next one! Just had a day of popping the perch on pads yesterday - LOVE IT!!!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@HookLife]

Hey Todd. I got a questions for you. Nobody knows the answer to this and I thought if anyone would know, it would be you. How are hollow body frogs made? Myself and some others have done tons of research and the only thing we can find is making mold of clay, dipping those molds in liquid rubber, then digging the clay out and sealing the frogs back up. Hoping you can help….

[@neallloyd283]

What's that color called

[@whiskeybranch]

I love to fish a frog over anything else. I agree with you on a lot of what you are saying. I barely wait on setting the hook, the more you watch your bait, you learn what different types of blow ups you get and when they have it and don't. I don't modify anything with a bait, it was designed that way for a reason, so I leave it the way it is. Great video again!!!!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Thanks

[@jaretstrickland5613]

Great video. Thanks for talking about the hook set. I love fishing a frog but was always told to wait a few seconds and have missed more fish than have caught, so from now on I’m not waiting. Always heard to bend hooks and have missed fish and thought it was because I didn’t bend the hook. Thanks again man!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

I'll share this on my next video I promise. already in the works.

[@ronalexander4955]

I’ve never been to picky on top water colors. For years when we had to weight our own rats and frogs most everyone threw a black with a yellow nose on gville. One myth I’ve heard a lot is early morning and late evening for top water bites, but some of my biggest bites have come after 1pm in the dead summer. Do you ever cut your tails off?

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Never cut the tails its why it works the way it does. I agree with you on color in the past but now it seems color is starting to make a difference.

[@ronalexander4955]

You are giving out a lot of good fishing info. You are correct! Let me iterate the only reason I cut mine off was because they were on top of the mat 99% of the time and we did get a little more distance on the throw.

[@Wired2Fish]

Great video bud!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Thanks! Learned from the best late nights at Grosse Savane

[@bigc8018]

Another great video. Actually informative, and taking a broad topic and serializing it (which needs to happen much more often with KZbin videos). Very nice "cliff hanger" for the next installment. Plus, you get your product plug in, without it being an obvious "Bill Dance" type sales pimp. Good job.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Thank you

[@johnkoons7163]

I call that sucking sound Slurping. I've found after 10 years of frogging and 1000's caught, big fish tend to slurp them, their just eating it. Not stunning it and then eating it. Sound right?

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Totally agree

[@RobbyRadford]

Good stuff, I listen to the person who’s fished it 1000x’s more than me!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Thanks like I said these are just suggestions hopefully after all these years I've learned something on the water. Fingers crossed. LOL

[@RobbyRadford]

@@toddcastledinefishing5924 I heard once, fear two men. The one who can throw 1,000 punches, or the one who's thrown the same punch 1,000 times.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Man thats a good one. I might have to steal this.

[@SeeLifeBro]

I'm very surprised you use a Palomar to tie up with braid. That knot will break your heart with braid. I would use at least a double Palomar...Great video though!!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Never broke off on a knot on braid ever

[@SeeLifeBro]

@@toddcastledinefishing5924 I've had the Palomar knot slip out with braid (Power Pro 65lb) and its a pretty known thing out here, but I'm punching super thick mats out here in California on the Delta.

[@kevinledford8260]

​@@SeeLifeBroTieing it wrong

[@SeeLifeBro]

@@kevinledford8260 nope

[@jerryjames6090]

I have tried several different colors of different frogs and it only seems black and white work the best. I am trying these type of frogs just taking a different type of work for me

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Sometimes you just gotta forget the color and try something new I’ve finally gotten over that and really try and be open minded.

[@jerryjames6090]

@@toddcastledinefishing5924 I know! Cause I have learned the bream colors really work! I am trying too find more colors and use it.

[@MrJaxnbeFishing]

Man I should’ve been watched this video! Good stuff👍🏾👍🏾

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Appreciate it!!

[@markdoerr5529]

Great info can’t wait for part 2 keep up the great vids👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Coming soon!

[@phillipsmith8127]

Great video Casteldine! I live on Rayburn and you right this thing will catch em and catch some heads! Keep it up brother

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Thanks! Will do!

[@jameshaeberle5447]

Fish do not have hands. If you feel or see the bite then set the hook.

[@Showmethefish]

This video is straight from experience period...great job !!! I agree to every thing you say..

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Heck yea

[@Wil_D]

I need an 8hr frog blowup sound compilation to go to sleep to. That would be a hell of a lot better than rainfall.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

You and me both

[@jonathonmccunnm5415]

Yeah I live in south Florida and I fish the bank on canals a lot almost every day. 90% of my frog bites are as soon as it hits the water or just a couple twitches. I almost never get a bite walking it. And really I would throw a spook if I really wanted a walking bait. To me frog fishing is about throwing it in the slop and hold on lol...

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Thats cool stuff

[@dustinsmith9544]

Does it take on water? Was going to buy some but the reviews on tacklewarehouse are terrible.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Really I haven't had a problem but not sure why I 'd have them take on water, I wouldn't leave them out to get wet either.

[@DavidWildfishing]

I’ve heard guys say bend them out but I don’t. Not because I know something about the fish but because I feel that if you bend a hardened metal essentially you are weakening the metal.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Thats one part of it, YES. AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@robertpatterson3406]

So since you designed it why does it have the KVD logo on the package ?

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Most baits aren’t designed by pro fishermen in fact almost none. They do have influence over it. Phil Marks and I developed it and it was my first project with Strike King. So when you take these to places like Academy, and Walmart and they will buy more with KVD on the package you do it no questions asked. My ego is not big and a check is a check.

[@scottclark1168]

Great video dont throw a frog a whole lot but have recently started playing around with it,these videos will for sure help out,cant wait for the next ones

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Great to hear!

[@kenbrown5449]

I'm agreeing with all you've said so far. I've never bent out hooks, for a few reasons, not weedless being the main one. Looking forward to the next vid.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Right on

[@tomhoward3186]

Color + action are the most important things. I have caught 6 lb largemouth in January on a shad-colored frog, but I had to work it like a dying shad next to cover. Matching what they are feeding on or reacting to is the most important clue no matter the fishing style you prefer.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

I'll be honest I think action is 1A, and color is 1B

[@upstateangler9575]

Great tips and I will take the word of the guy whom designed the bait . Here in upstate NY it took forever to get on a frog bite this year .Just this past 2 weeks have I actually turned to a frog as the first bait I pull out of the rod locker in the morning and evenings .I have had one tied on for 2 months but they just where not feeding up and the grass was not grown in enough or something . What ever the case maybe glad they are eating it now . Love the content and have been enjoying all the knowledge the last 6 months or so. Even though the fishing is a bit different here there is always something in the vids I can apply to my lakes .

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Like to hear how you said they weren't feeding up, its crazy you don't hear that much. It pisses me off when everything is setup and they just won't come up, very frustrating.

[@TeamJesusOutdoors]

You are so dead on, my good man! I couldn't find anything to disagree with you on...lol Funny thing is, I was in the middle of editing a froggin vid, that I just filmed, when I got the notification of this vid! Love it!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Awesome!!!!! I was wondering if I was gonna get some "HEY THATS HORRIBLE" type stuff. LOL

[@TeamJesusOutdoors]

You may, but not from me. I completely agree with just about everything you had to say. For guys who have watched enough bass eat (or attempt to eat) slop frogs, some of this is just obvious!

[@DRDROP-fj4bo]

Agree, Set hook immediately. My retrieve depends on water temp. Summer-Fast Spawn- Tap- Tap let it sit. Chartreuse belly 90% of time. I do bend hooks up and in on the frog I throw,

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

I agree, with the water temp scenarios for sure. Get ready for my question on the next video. Doesn't mean I'm right it just might make you think.

[@richardbumpuscjf347]

I have caught hundreds of fish in a frog, lost a few, but never bent the hooks. Looking forward to hear your take on it. 🐸

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Me either but hear about it all the time.

[@bartgrider6895]

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for making the "bottom up".. I've always thrown white just so I can see it... I agree to set the hook as fast as you can as long as the frog is gone. That's why I always throw a frog that I can see.. Yes, IMO colors matter in open water, not in the slop... Looking forward to the next vid!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Glad it was helpful! The next one is gonna b next level still coming up with ideas at the moment.

[@bartgrider6895]

@@toddcastledinefishing5924 I'm really looking forward to how fast you work it in open water. Hopefully you cover that because you mentioned most people work it to slow. Around here, it's all about the pause. I quick walk it 3 times and pause. They ALWAYS hit it on the pause.

[@johncox2394]

good stuff Todd! ready for next video!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Right on!

[@DubH46]

I'd love to have some input, but I'm a terrible frog fisherman. I've seen you hammer fish on that popping perch so I'm listening to learn.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Sounds good

[@davidallison976]

Great one! I’m with ya! I’m not a great frog guy though myself.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Keep watching next 2 are gonna be good

[@colestewart846]

I 100% agree with sound

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

you bet, the sound can be sneaky.

[@jamesmims5850]

Nice vid bud. Great info.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Thanks

[@tomsales263]

I see you use a Palomar knot with your braided line. why does everyone keep saying not to use a Palomar knot with braid or flora line?

[@kevinledford8260]

That the only knot to use for braid. Obviously

[@jimbo0411]

Thanks for this.. !! I Don't frog fish a lot cause of confidence but had one come up by a floating stump the other day while my frog was just sitting there and he snatched it but didnt blow up on it. I did wait a second gave a decent hook set over the shoulder probably could have put little more on it but not bad, BUT i played him for 7 seconds and got off, I realize he only bit down on it and i didnt hook him. So I have a kistler 7'3 heavy frog rod on 65lb braid. Not sure i didn't hookset hard enough? Was live target brown frog but the hooks you cant feel running hand over. So not sure what the deal is. These vids will help. Thx !

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Ok.......love the comment of what happened everything you might want to know will come on my next video so get ready. It should come out Thursday I’ll go over everything.

[@stinger76262]

Question: Is it true that he enters club tournaments for easy money?

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Ive never fished a club tournament in my life even when I was young.

[@johnmclaughlin7805]

I never wait to set the hook on my frogs! Either they have it or they don't! I mostly throw buzz style frog's in my area,they just seam to get me more bites here. But I do throw hollow frogs too. My favorite color frog is bone,I have so much confidence in that color!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

I know I've really never seen a bone frog until ours but I could be wrong. It seems it should have been a no brainer in the past.

[@johnmclaughlin7805]

@@toddcastledinefishing5924 I've been slamming them on the teckle sprinkler frog in bone color. I swear I can fish that thing all day long cause I know the Big bass in my are love that thing! Strike King gonna come out with a frog like that? Seams everybody else is! I love Strike King's stuff got loads of it. Thanks for the reply back,that was Awesome!!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

We talked about it, but I had something that I thought was better that has been put on the back burner. Makes me want to bring it back up and see if we can get it done.

[@B.A.Bassangler]

Yeaaaa Buddy...gonna stir the pot..."Can't set the hook faster than they can spit it"...kinda like people that think a lighter/faster arrow can beat a deer that wants to duck their shot!

[@checkthafeedctfx3244]

I dont bend out hooks !!...after yrs of 🐸 fishing the pressure seemed to forced them to be color specific ive doubled back with a completely diff color after one knocked it out of water 2-3 times then make that change and they clobber it its kinda frustrating and i don’t believe the “myths” 90% of the time i hammer them off what my eyes are seeing 💪🏽

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Agreed!!!

[@hbdejean6538]

I agree with everything, another myth is “when you miss one, throw straight back in there as fast as you can” Not with a frog... If one takes it under and I miss it, even though I wanna throw straight back in there I’ve learned, SQUEEZE the water out first. Otherwise I’ll just miss him again cause the frogs full of water from the initial bite and it won’t collapse. Its hard to catch one that I just missed two casts in a row. I’ve had better luck not even casting back, go back in 20 minutes and make a long cast back to the fish...

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

You don't have to squeeze the water out on all the new popping perches or pad perches and I'll explain why in the next video. NEW COOL DESIGN WE'VE HAD FOR OVER A YEAR.

[@baileyreaves6487]

Todd Castledine Fishing Cuz of your little paper clip hole on the back side slinging water out on the next cast right?

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Yes it was a game changer!!!!

[@davidguzman534]

awesome videos todd. love the format and content. going to try xplasma after being a long time power pro user because of your video. i live just outside san antonio and fish down at choke canyon a lot. weeds everywhere every summer. started using the popping perch kvd model that i got last year and love the design but ive caught way less fish with it than regular frogs. even when i fished it around and along cover and open water. is your design different? ive fished it along weed lines structure and cover walking spitting fast slow chuggin. not sure what gives. totally cant wait for the next episode.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Keep that lake quiet for a little longer its still flying under the radar. I get more bites on the popping perch than the pad perch or regular frog everywhere, and I mean EVERYWHERE I go. My 3rd episode might help ya.

[@joshuanewsome5298]

Thanks for the videos Todd. I always set the hook asap. The only time I take is the time it takes to see if my frog is gone. I fish a frog a lot and I don't miss or lose to many. I've got a question about the poppin perch. I bought a couple and I like the profile. Mine seem to sit really low in the water and sometimes even go under water. Is this by design? I have had a day where I whacked them on it yet or I probably wouldn't even care but I tend to put it down too quickly for this reason. P.S. Your videos are better than Hallmans and way better than Andrews 🤣 P.S.S. You should show them this comment. I watch all your videos because I wanna learn and I know that you are the elite of the elite when it comes to shallow water lakes and grass lakes

[@joshuanewsome5298]

I guess I should have said why I set the hook asap. Usually when I'm throwing a frog it's around heavy cover and I don't want the fish to have time to get any deeper in the cover before I set the hook

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

My next video will show how and why it was designed, and explain what your talking about I should release it Thursday.

[@RedXCross1]

Awesome stuff, keep going

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Thanks, will do!

[@bobbyswain7049]

Agree........fast is good

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Very good

[@masonlott8769]

I always say there's 2 types of frog fish,those that eat it and those you have to "talk em into it" as I say, you can't pull it away from one if they truly want to eat it in my opinion. But the others I always check em once when I get a blowup, no different than a worm bite.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Totally agree, like how you put that I might have to steal it. LOL

[@bigbass7508]

Frogs only see the bottom of the frog right

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

If you mean Bass yes they mostly see the bottom, I think in clear water with overcast or shady conditions they can see more.

[@Cloteal_Cast]

All I know is I’ve been mimicking your style of frog fishing from watching your videos and I’ve caught 6 fish over 8lbs in the last two weeks doing it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Hold up, you gotta tell me what you’ve been doing cause I sure havnt caught that. Lol

[@Cloteal_Cast]

Todd Castledine Fishing gotta come to south Louisiana lol not to far from Grosse Savanne

[@leojeidy1143]

Yea I don't believe in waiting either especially as the season goes on and they get smarter. And yes the sound they make when you know he ate it 🙂🙂 he coming to the boat.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

I'm glad to hear that, I was wondering if anyone else noticed it. I can honestly say I don't talk about that much and figured some guys might look at that as crazy.

[@robertroyal545]

Great Video!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Thanks!

[@Austin500MD]

Maybe add in the next video about trimming the skirts on the frog? Some say there’s a reason for it like it walks better and some people don’t even mess with them.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

That will be on there for sure

[@lancemabry6707]

I'm on Douglas lake in East TN.. Would the shad spawn color work in the fall or is there another color that's better? In case u haven't been here before its a highland style reservoir with bushes and overhangs as it primary cover for shallow fishing..

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Overhangs and things like that (shade related cover) you can go with a lot of colors. When its more open and maybe sunny the shad spawn seems to work better at times. Time of the year might not matter as much with that bait as much as pressure and water color.

[@_bassadd1ct_]

What action do you like on your frog rod. I’ve used extra fast and fast, and the extra fast is great for walking the frog with no effort but i hate losing bend in the rod when those fish come up to jump 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

I'll go over that as well on the next video.

[@timboslice1986]

Yoooooo! I'm not getting notifications 😭 missed like 5 videos!

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Oh no!

[@jeffwillis874]

It’s more the color of bottom of the frog that matters ?

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

That’s why all of the pad perch, pip squeak and popping perch look the same on both sides. Except that one color.

[@rogerdudra178]

Strike King rules! I'd be interested in Texas myths versus Montana myths about frogs. Hook sets are free. Sounds like we fish Montana like you fish Texas. I concure with your lesson.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Hook sets are free I agree but I never want to swing and miss, they come back to hit a frog more than any other bait in my opinion.

[@joelee240]

The only reason I set the hook when I feel them is I don't want the frog coming back at me going 100 mph.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Trust me I still have that happen

[@shawnhammack5302]

There have been 3 frog only tournaments that didn't allow the poping perch because its called a perch. I got into it with th TD all three times over this. I am like dude its a frog. I know this is a old video I just had to share

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

You gotta be kidding me, please tel me which tournament trail this is. I’ll cal them up personally

[@shawnhammack5302]

@@toddcastledinefishing5924 lol they were small buddy tournaments 3 different guys running them. But they got worked up over how picky they were over what was a frog. The poping perch was called out as not being a frog and I was like you are crazy. One of the tournaments didn't even happen because we couldn't agree on what a frog was. So I said what about the swamp donkey can we fish with donkeys?

[@shawnhammack5302]

I don't want to publicly call names

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Oh I get it but that’s ridiculous, I love your swamp donkey comeback

[@derrickhouse7063]

I'm sold

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

wait for the next video!!!!!!!!!

[@atthebrink74]

"Sometime bass are stupid" I just wish I could find stupid bass in a tournament...

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Thats the only ones I look for.

[@markanderson5213]

I bought 3 and every one leaked from the eye took on water sank disappointing (good video)

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Check out the next VIDEO its almost impossible to get one to sink now!!!!!

[@richardharding8248]

I saw someone use or test this pop in perch when it was introduced and they smashed em can t remember who

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Yea I vaguely remember that, caught about 60 on it that day. LOL

[@jasonbeckfishing]

Is there any truth that the Popping perch is being discontinued ? I'm hearing a bunch of things about this and wondering what was going on with this.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Heck no not even close.

[@jasonbeckfishing]

@@toddcastledinefishing5924 Ok cool you know people talk lol. Thought maybe certain colors that was it but they where talking the whole line ups where going away. Thanks for the info

[@willis4734]

BEST VIDEO explaining frog fishing I agree on all three feel,sight and sound I can definitely tell the difference between a frog being eating or the bass missing it took me years to learn but learning it pass off certain times. Great video again

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

I’m so glad others agree on the listening part I was afraid everyone would think I was crazy. Lol

[@82ndDon]

Someone said I should been my hooks out once before and all I could say was… Don’t you think if the company wanted them bent out they would’ve done it for you? Don’t bend your Hooks dummies...if you don’t cut yourself you’re gonna pick up every lily pad in the pond

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

I'll hit on this more in the next episode for sure, but agree with you on your points.

[@82ndDon]

Awesome Intel! Thank you. I’ll be standing by for more. The shad spawn color works AMAZING here in Maine! gin water + clear frog = dead frog poppin

[@jayspencer]

Great videos in general but I really like this one. Makes me want to pick up a frog again. My hookup ratio stinks.

[@toddcastledinefishing5924]

Keep sticking with it, hopefully this will help