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FrogMan Tactical

FrogMan Tactical

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@NANA-lq5md
@NANA-lq5md 6 ай бұрын
I always use a 36 yard zero, its what we did in the Marines. Worked then and has worked since 👍
@pewpewbbqs
@pewpewbbqs 6 ай бұрын
This is probably one of the most informative / well presented video on bullet drop w/ different rifle zeros
@martymonaco1255
@martymonaco1255 6 ай бұрын
You, Sir, are teaching an old dog new tricks! As all of your videos, this one was excellent! I had never thought of a 36 yard zero. Always told of the 100 yard. Well, back to the range with my rifles! Also, your quote of, "Knowledge without application is useless." is, without a doubt, priceless. Thanks and keep them coming!
@activefamily7865
@activefamily7865 6 ай бұрын
Knowledge without application is useless. What a true and powerful statement.
@thomthompson9217
@thomthompson9217 6 ай бұрын
Without knowledge a man will perish
@SaundersE5
@SaundersE5 6 ай бұрын
@@thomthompson9217if you run out of ammo you’re screwed.
@scotts7009
@scotts7009 6 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation of the 36 yard zero,and how it effects bullet trajectory on engaging targets at comparatively short and long range within the capability of the 223/556 cartridge. Excellent.
@chewminem2044
@chewminem2044 5 ай бұрын
I’ve ran with 36yrd zero on most of my rifles now from 11.5-16” and it’s phenomenal consistency. This is the best chart I’ve seen on this type of zero. Another great video! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
@JohnDoe-gc5hn
@JohnDoe-gc5hn 6 ай бұрын
Love the demonstration Jason. Totally agree on the 36-yard zero. Shawn Ryan explained this before for me and it works great. I also downloaded a target he provided to illustrate where the POI should be based on POA at 25 yards. It was nice seeing your chart diagram. Never saw this concept from that perspective. Thank you!
@DTWCT
@DTWCT 6 ай бұрын
Where can we find that target?
@bds123087
@bds123087 6 ай бұрын
I’ve always run 36 yards zero and confirmed out to 300. It’s practically the same thing. Anywhere between 36 yards out to 300 is point of aim point of impact with only a few inches of variation anything past that hold high like you would instinctively do if you were lobbing a football. the tighter zero the better.
@mrmongo656
@mrmongo656 6 ай бұрын
Back in the day (mid 70's), M-16A1 shooting 55gr with 7 clicks down on the front sight is 300yd zero, holding 6 inches low for 200 yd bullseye. Worked like a champ
@SaundersE5
@SaundersE5 6 ай бұрын
You’re old like me.
@SaundersE5
@SaundersE5 6 ай бұрын
RLTW
@stickfighter1038
@stickfighter1038 6 ай бұрын
Great presentation on the 36 yard zero for 556. After watching this, applied the 36 yard zero on a rifle that I train/compete with on a 200 yard to 15 yards course of fire. Times and accuracy improved.
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 5 ай бұрын
Actually honestly for 200yd and less the 50yd zero is superior. It's a tad tighter out to 200, the issue issue is the 9in of drop for 300yds with the 50yd zero. The 36yd zero has SLIGHTLY more deviation to 200 (you'll be 4-5in high at 100-200 typically)but remains essentially dead on at 300 as it drops in. So if your course only goes to 200 at most, a 50 yard zero might be best. But especially for shooting at unknown distances real world, 36yd is my choice and what I use. Because you can't always dictate the range. But if I knew for a fact I would only shoot to 200, 50yd zero is what I'd use
@tyronenance9182
@tyronenance9182 6 ай бұрын
Used the 36 Yard BZO in the Marine Corps, shot Expert every time, old school using iron sights out to 500 😊
@iSoldat
@iSoldat 5 ай бұрын
I wish i had a KD course in my backyard. Semper Fi, Marine!
@USMC6169
@USMC6169 3 ай бұрын
Man brings back memories from boot camp. Semper Fi
@nicholas1740
@nicholas1740 6 ай бұрын
I really like the 50 yrd zero. It has the least amount of rise and drop out to 400 yds. I ran the ballistics on my rounds and the numbers are very close to yours. And I've verified out to 300.
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 5 ай бұрын
It's better for out to 200..... Then drops 9+in for 300yds. The 36yd zero is superior to 300. SLIGHTLY more deviation out to 200 but still a dead hold at 300. With less than 6in total deviation in between.
@nicholas1740
@nicholas1740 5 ай бұрын
I can hold at the base of the neck and still hit center sternum at 300. Much more likely you'll have to shoot at closer ranges where the 50 has a lot less hold. How many times are you going to need to shoot at 300.. I'll stay with the 50 yd zero.👍
@SerelawMediaToday
@SerelawMediaToday 5 ай бұрын
He is using a 10.5" barrel.
@garypowell9006
@garypowell9006 5 ай бұрын
"Knowledge without application is useless." This is valid for reading the Bible!
@davidr7333
@davidr7333 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great points on zeros.! To slightly update the slogan: Slow is Slow. You cannot miss fast enough to win, but you Can shoot slow enough to lose. Smooth is fast. More speed follows reducing wasted motion and moving relaxed and quickly. It is much harder to teach a fast shooter to be accurate than it is to teach a slow shooter to speed up.
@wardellleake6434
@wardellleake6434 6 ай бұрын
This was a great explanation of why the 36 yard zero is effective
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
🙏
@OrganicSteelColossus
@OrganicSteelColossus 5 ай бұрын
Great advce about dimming your reddot, Mr. Pike. I just adjusted both of mine. I said it before & I'll say it again, I've learned more from you in under a year than I've learned my whole life from other people. Thank you for videos like this, & on a personal level, thank you for everything you have done for me. God bless you & your family. , Jack
@bryanduchane2371
@bryanduchane2371 5 ай бұрын
This is the first time I've watched your videos. Great comment, subscribed and looking Forward to more of you content. Nice work!
@WildTex-m9u
@WildTex-m9u 5 ай бұрын
Here in East Texas we do a 36 to 50 yard zero because it’s a pine forest and 75 yard shot is a long shot. I really enjoy these father and son videos.
@SaundersE5
@SaundersE5 6 ай бұрын
This man has knowledge, but I have an M16A1 H&R clone rifle from PSA, 20” barrel, I zero at 25 yards, verify at 300 and put the smaller peep down for my shooting. And adjust a little. When the SHTF I’ll get by. As I said this man has knowledge.
@kenwheelock2740
@kenwheelock2740 6 ай бұрын
And experience 💀
@SaundersE5
@SaundersE5 6 ай бұрын
@@kenwheelock2740yep.
@EngineersQuest
@EngineersQuest 6 ай бұрын
Same here. A2 zeroed at 25yds. Former Army.
@SaundersE5
@SaundersE5 5 ай бұрын
@@kenwheelock2740experience in Spades, I don’t question SEALS.
@SaundersE5
@SaundersE5 5 ай бұрын
@@EngineersQuestaim at the belt, you’ll be on. One way or the other.
@TOMMYTANKERB32
@TOMMYTANKERB32 6 ай бұрын
This works great with dots and scopes without a bdc tree. If you have a scope with your drops already in your reticle tree use the manufacturers recommended range.
@andrewlightbody4221
@andrewlightbody4221 5 ай бұрын
I feel like the way you explained what "2 moa" red dot means was strange. It means that the dot itself is 2 moa at 100 yards. If you can consistently shoot two moa at 100 yards with a two MOA red-dot, that's literally flawless shooting.
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 5 ай бұрын
I mean a 2 MOA scope covers 2” so the ability to align the dot to a tighter grouping is harder. It has nothing to do with the barrels ability. Just alignment. Imagine a 6 MOA. It covers a lot of space so naturally it’ll be harder to hold a tighter group. 🙏
@thomasrfoster4503
@thomasrfoster4503 5 ай бұрын
Andrew, if you have a rifle and a shooter cable of shooting 1 moa, a 2 moa red dot will not cause a decrease in the rifle's accuracy. With consistent and solid fundamentals, holding a 2 moa group at 100 yds, is an easy day in the office. Not flawless marksmanship.
@BravoJulietAlpha
@BravoJulietAlpha 5 ай бұрын
This is the best breakdown on the web. Outstanding. Thank you.
@TimGruver-o3n
@TimGruver-o3n 5 ай бұрын
I love the 36 yard zero on my 16" barrel. The coyotes hate it all the way across my pasture field. Just settle the crosshairs and let er' fly!
@JorgeSanchez-ms1xu
@JorgeSanchez-ms1xu 6 ай бұрын
Great information Chief!! I love watching your videos and it keeps me going to learn more about this world. Thank you!!
@toddjenest3212
@toddjenest3212 3 ай бұрын
SB Tactical Brace (for disabled shooters). Used to circumvent SBR regulations which are restricted by the NFA.
@jeffstroud2459
@jeffstroud2459 Ай бұрын
This is great! Great explanation on the Ballistic Chart and then showing Aim and Impact on your torso 👊
@jamesstanley4764
@jamesstanley4764 6 ай бұрын
Kind of like FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD .
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
💥 That’s exactly what I based it off of. 🙏
@GideonMagoh
@GideonMagoh 5 ай бұрын
Haha Amen. Good one
@jjprinsloo4046
@jjprinsloo4046 4 ай бұрын
Great explanation, been trying to explain this to guys for years. Everyone seems to think a bullet travels in a straight line, In stead of a curved trajectory. If u know your trajectory u can predict your point of impact. But u need to practice it on the range. Thanks Jason.
@Bigmyoun1
@Bigmyoun1 6 ай бұрын
I'm no frogman but I was a tanker in the Army. We always zeroed our rifles at 25 meters. When you are dead on at 25 meters because of the trajectory of the 5.56 you are dead on again at 300. Yards are shorter than meters but if you zero 300 yards you are basically zeroing for 25 yards. This is due to the arc of the bullet.
@larrygibson9273
@larrygibson9273 4 ай бұрын
I liked the 25/250 zero that we used in the Army as well. Now I really love the 36 yd zero
@easternsierratroutslayerst2225
@easternsierratroutslayerst2225 5 ай бұрын
rather than saying "shooter ready?", we like to say to the the spotter, "eyes on?" then spotter can say send it... just an observation, great vid im trying 36 yrs zero. Thanks Frogman!
@JGcd001
@JGcd001 5 ай бұрын
From what I can tell, it depends on the distance you'll be engaging in the most. Exclusive CQB, 25 is probably best. 36 is the best middle ground for all situations, and 50 or 100 if you are exclusively going to be shooting longer distances. But as you zero for longer distances, your holdiver for close range targets changes massively. Great video and info, thank you! 25 or 36 for me 👍
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 5 ай бұрын
Lol no. 25 is NEVER best. That is an ABSOLUTELY TRASH zero. The whole point of a carbine is the ability to shoot at distance. You can go from CQB inside but the second you step out the door you might be in a fight at 200yds..... 25yd zero is utter garbage. And 50 is WORSE for longer distance than 36...... And the 100yd zero is really only best if you're using a scope with BDC that REQUIRES a 100yd zero.... 50 is best for 200 and in....and only slightly... With significant drop past 200 (which isn't necessarily bad you just have to understand that) 36 is best for all around shooting. where you might be shooting at unknown ranges anywhere from CQB out to 3-400+yds... Only SLIGHTLY more deviation inside 200 but allowing dead holds center mass out to 300 with everything from 5yd to 300yds all inside a 6in impact zone Essentially a 50yd zero is a little tighter at 100-200yds (about 2in at most in deviation) but drops 9+in to hit 300yds. Great zero for general use if you're in a setting where shots past 200 would be rare anyways But if you live in an area where you might have longer sight lines out to 3 - 500 yds, the 36yd zero is the best general purpose because there is no thinking involved until PAST 300 which is useful because it can be very difficult to guesstimate range, and targets will only very rarely be fully exposed once a fight starts.
@seniortac4175
@seniortac4175 6 ай бұрын
Hey Chief! Grab some mk262 77 gr and do some testing! Your 10.5 will love you for long time!!😂 Respect and Salute Brother! Former USSF 10th group 18B!
@brianlong2079
@brianlong2079 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Real clear explanation and valuable info. God bless
@bollywig7871
@bollywig7871 5 ай бұрын
Really nice presentation. Just a reminder for people that this ballistic data is going to look different for different ammo and barrel lengths.
@PoliticallyInsensitive
@PoliticallyInsensitive 4 ай бұрын
The 36yd zero used to be called Maximum Point Blank Range. And it depends on your ammo, muzzle velocity, and most importantly, your desired target area. For example, where I live above 6000' asl, for a 8" target my near zero is 35yd, my far zero is 275yds and I'll hit in the bottom 4" of that target it to 321yds...on paper. If I shrink the target to 6" my zeroes change to 40yds, 249yds, and 290yds respectively. As stated, you need to know your capability and the purpose of your setup in order to pick the "right" zero for your system. If you didn't plan on shooting further than 200yds in a crowded city either this or a 50/200 would be fine. If you're in Kansas or Nebraska and might be taking shots at 600 or 700 maybe a 300yd zero is for you.
@redgeypedersen41
@redgeypedersen41 6 ай бұрын
Great advice, Thankyou and for your service!
@dragonrider9244
@dragonrider9244 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. This helps me know i am zeroing my rifle better than i thought.
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome. 🙏
@66justariot
@66justariot 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, This piggybacks perfectly off of Shawn Ryan’s 36 yard zero video! Could you do a video like this with 300 blackout supersonic rounds? Would love to see a trained shooter dispel the “only up close” idea of 300 blackout.
@patb7723
@patb7723 6 ай бұрын
Would be cool to see that my 300 blackout I am dead on at 50 yards and like an inch high at 100 yards and only drop like 5ish inches to 200 yards
@Mockturtlesoup1
@Mockturtlesoup1 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I switched to the 36 yard zero, jeez, I don't even know. Maybe 10, 15 years ago? It's also great for new shooters, friends, potential girlfriends, etc. because they can quickly make hits a couple hundred yards away without having to use holdovers. I love seeing that big grin when a new shooter hunkers down, takes their time, lets one go, and that steel rings out.
@dimemmo
@dimemmo 6 ай бұрын
This all varies greatly based on barrel length, bullet weight, and environment. Also, I believe your mount for your vortex sparc is backwards. It may not always shift but mounting a red dot on a handguard is not as sturdy as the upper receiver, especially if it is a cheap handguard.
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
No, the optic mount isn’t backwards. No, the optic isn’t mounted on the rail itself. No, environmental factors do not play into your zero. No, the barrel length does not determine your zero as it has no bearing on your accuracy. No, bullet weight has nothing to do with your zero rather the harmonics of the barrel. My friend. Your entire comment is 100% inaccurate. You can simple google these things to see if they are or are not accurate before you comment. It’s super important you don’t assume things. You mislead others and that is why most can’t shoot. They believe this nonsense. 🙏
@declineofthewest.
@declineofthewest. 6 ай бұрын
Pin of shame? 📌
@declineofthewest.
@declineofthewest. 6 ай бұрын
Are you regarded?
@aaroncrawford9601
@aaroncrawford9601 6 ай бұрын
So, I like the 36 yard zero but zero also changes depending on sight height off the bore of the rifle.
@matthewriegner5180
@matthewriegner5180 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. Barrel length, weight of the bullet, .223 vs 5.56, height of the optic, velocity of the round, etc. Is 36 yds a viable zero sure, but so is 50, and 100 depending on application and the stated variables. The 2.26" mounts call for a 67yard zero for the smallest groupings out to 300 center mass, again dependent on other variables. That's the only thing that drives me nuts with this channel is the statements of certainty, despite the consideration of variables at play. Also he misses the point of the battle zero, it's when there is unknown distance what is going to give you a hit holding center mass. Sure through practice and experience and tricks you can learn to gauge it but it becomes more and more guesstimate math past a certain distance. Hence why scopes and reticles become important. Right tools for the job.
@djphillips109
@djphillips109 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, that ☝😉
@lifeofjb8256
@lifeofjb8256 5 ай бұрын
This was really informative thank you for your knowledge
@hmsather89
@hmsather89 5 ай бұрын
Something for people to also keep in mind is zero distance is not universal. If you change bullet weight, barrel length, barrel twist, and ESPECIALLY when changing height over bore (such as with risers or different optics, etc.), you will see different high/drop points with different zero distances and the optimal zero distance may be different than this chart. I always run numbers through a ballistic calculator and then verify/confirm on the range. Also, some optics with a built in BDC require a specific zero distance in order for the BDC to function.
@89yjrj
@89yjrj 5 ай бұрын
Really good info! I would like to see a video for other calibers such as 308 and 300 Blk Out. Great video!
@DisgustedGenXr
@DisgustedGenXr 6 ай бұрын
I like 36 & 50yd for .223/5.56 14+” barrel @50yd 13” or less 36yds
@DesertTactical
@DesertTactical 5 ай бұрын
Agree with you 100%
@scout06171
@scout06171 6 ай бұрын
It depends on the ballistics of the ammunition and caliber. To properly zero one needs to know at what distance the weapon will engage and at what distance the bullet passes through the point of aim. For instance 556 passes through point of aim at 25 and 250 meters.
@jwiatrek
@jwiatrek 6 ай бұрын
At what bullet weight, BC and muzzle velocity? Thanks
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
Exactly! Good input. 🙏
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video I'm sure it will help a lot of people out
@abesview5855
@abesview5855 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video so much knowledge learned on this one.
@crazyhawk99
@crazyhawk99 4 ай бұрын
Solid information, presented well. Found you on FB and am following!
@iSoldat
@iSoldat 5 ай бұрын
At 300, POA == POI using the standard M885 5.56 round. Finding a 300 yard range to zero is the hard part.
@larrygibson9273
@larrygibson9273 4 ай бұрын
Look at the numbers for that round at the range you have and adjust POI for that amount of elevation above or below. With a 36 yard zero on a 25 yard range, POI is about an inch and half low from POA. Then, verify the dope
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 3 ай бұрын
​@@larrygibson9273 I only use a short range zero to get on paper. 25yd and 36yd zeros will not always even put you on paper at 300yd. 1" at 25yds is 12" at 300yds.
@larrygibson9273
@larrygibson9273 3 ай бұрын
@dbmail545 No, I have a target for a 36-yard zero for use on a 25-yard range since not everyone has a 36-yard range. I've used my AR set up like this to almost 400 yards. At 100-150 it lands a couple inches high and then starts coming back to POI-POA at 300 yards
@chrismartinelli9153
@chrismartinelli9153 6 ай бұрын
So the 50 yard zero looks Ike it has less variance inside 100 yards than the 36.
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
Yes 50 is flatter overall.
@submoa9278
@submoa9278 6 ай бұрын
Max ordinate is what people that are actually knowledgeable at an intricate level call a “high point”
@deanolerich1750
@deanolerich1750 5 ай бұрын
I do Maximum Point Blank Range works for me and easy
@tmgjurassic3738
@tmgjurassic3738 5 ай бұрын
Really great video, appreciate it.
@welderdude1
@welderdude1 6 ай бұрын
I run a 36yd zero on my 2 11.5" rigs. For my longer barrel setups I use a 200yd zero.
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
Same but I like the 300 for longer barrels.
@welderdude1
@welderdude1 6 ай бұрын
@@frogmantactical I started running my 11.5" rigs with the 36yd zero after that class you did in Central CA. I got comfortable with the 200yd zero on the longer barrels I have from doing benchrest competitions. I know my holds and it's easy for me. I'll try out a 300yd next range day.
@sheepdog1102
@sheepdog1102 5 ай бұрын
Well said, thanks!😊
@gscop1683
@gscop1683 5 ай бұрын
Nicely done! I always used 25 yard zero.....now I have to re-zero! I too use the 55 grain 5.56. I'm not complaining, I need more trigger time anyway! How do you like the Vortex red dot? I have several Vortex scopes and LPVOs and really like them.
@outdoorlifewithfrank3280
@outdoorlifewithfrank3280 6 ай бұрын
36 and 300 are the same technically as I was taught in the marines. Kinda doing the same zero don't you think?
@chrismartinelli9153
@chrismartinelli9153 6 ай бұрын
If I wanted a 36 yard zero, and only had indoor range of 15 yards (50 ft is about 16 yards), where would poi be at 15 yards, about .10 “ low?
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
Depends on sight height but I’d say no more than 1/4” low or so. Not much.
@justinmurray4652
@justinmurray4652 6 ай бұрын
Mountains,mullets,merica does a great video on the 36 yard zero.The closest he shoots is 25yards with it and it was 1/4 inch low .
@chrismartinelli9153
@chrismartinelli9153 6 ай бұрын
Ok so I’ll take a few shots, if I’m about 1/4” low I’m good at figuring I’m zeroed at 36 yards.
@kevinfinch126
@kevinfinch126 5 ай бұрын
I’m curious. Serious question. Since both 36yd and 50yd are popular zeros with their own pros and cons, is anyone splitting the difference and running a 43yd zero?
@cloudstrife5209
@cloudstrife5209 6 ай бұрын
Barrel length is key. Anything less than 16 inch is useless. Just ask my wife. 🤔😳🤣
@SaundersE5
@SaundersE5 6 ай бұрын
Your wife is spot on.
@angeldesigns1385
@angeldesigns1385 6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@matthewriegner5180
@matthewriegner5180 6 ай бұрын
You're using the cm (correct measurement) right?
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 5 ай бұрын
My 14.5 using 77gr OTMs or 62gr Bonded soft Points disagrees with you 😂 If you're only going to be using peashooter 55gr FMJ your not exactly wrong tho
@williamhdenney3897
@williamhdenney3897 6 ай бұрын
Great explanation keep up thecgood work
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@shawnkoehler5006
@shawnkoehler5006 2 ай бұрын
Great video!! Thanks man!
@derrickblythe648
@derrickblythe648 5 ай бұрын
That is not what "2moa" is talking about in regards to the red dot!
@jasonard7227
@jasonard7227 5 ай бұрын
I also use 36 yard zero on 10.5 and 16s
@spudboyQ
@spudboyQ 5 ай бұрын
Spotter is back there eating gravel.
@RunningWithSauce
@RunningWithSauce 5 ай бұрын
Right I saw that and was like what is that kid doing during filming lol. Must be his kid.
@lostdogaonny
@lostdogaonny 5 ай бұрын
Good information. Im curious the elevation you were shooting at and how much, if at all, does elevation affect the bullet trajectory. You didn't seem terribly concerned about the breeze you noted in the video.
@toddhakesley9004
@toddhakesley9004 6 ай бұрын
So just curious about one of your statements about the 2 moa sparc red dot meaning it will hold a 2 moa group at 100 yards!! Which would also mean any other gun you put that 2 moa red dot on will hold a 2" group ??? Doesn't make sense. What does make sense is the 2 moa dot takes up a 2" space at 100 yards. That's it. It's the size of the dot at 100 yards
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
I mean with a 2 MOA dot it covers up 2” so it’s a bit harder to line up on target to maintain a tighter group is all. It has nothing to do with the MOA of the rifle itself.
@WearilyMistaken
@WearilyMistaken 5 ай бұрын
Anyone watching this, please take this concept and do the math on your ammo/gun and then VERIFY on the range. I subscribe to the idea of having the smallest variation for my choice of distance (300yds) with a red dot zero. That is called a PBR (point blank range). If you're running a scope, maybe a 100yd zero is better if you're dialing.
@teresajotyler4592
@teresajotyler4592 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, great chart
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
You're very welcome 🙏
@DoD890
@DoD890 5 ай бұрын
The first time I went to zero a rifle, I left embarrassed because I didn't have the fundamentals to be consistent enough to produce a group.
@patrick70335
@patrick70335 6 ай бұрын
This is the best critical data experiment I've seen. TY for this. Question for you, I don't see myself engaging a target beyond two hundred yards, given my terrain that is about the maximum I can get and still be able to ID the target (1-6 scope, heavily wooded, some clearings) I am considering the 50 yard zero for this reason. I would like to use your chart as a starting point do you have that posted anywhere for reference?
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
No we don’t because it’s not going to be accurate for your gun and ammo. You can download a ballistic calculator, input your info, and your chart will be constructed.
@patrick70335
@patrick70335 6 ай бұрын
@@frogmantactical I figured. I haven't had luck with ballistic calls since Strelok was taken off the play store. TY anyway, and God bless.
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
@@patrick70335 Write the numbers on paper and tape it to your stock. That’s what we do.
@96kylar
@96kylar 6 ай бұрын
450 plus meters with a 10.3? Edit- the first thing asking “what zero” , for me would be what the application is (barrel length) and what my wants and needs are with the gear I have.
@chrisrayburn
@chrisrayburn 5 ай бұрын
Where i live a 100 yrd 0 does great at 50 100 150 after 200 it starts to drop
@Serve3000
@Serve3000 5 ай бұрын
Frogman where ya goggles at brother. Safety first
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 3 ай бұрын
There is no "best". It depends on a lot of things. In North Florida shots on game at beyond 300m are quite rare. I use a 200m zero. 1mil (10cm) high at 100m, spot on at 200m and 1mil (30cm) at 300m. I use the same zero for 7.62x39 even though that cartridge is more like 1.5+mil at 300m.
@greg9076
@greg9076 6 ай бұрын
On your 36 yard zero: at 3:10 into video, you show and state that your hit was low because of bullet drop. But at 8:20 into your video, you say the hit should be 6.9” high. ??? I use a 36 yard zero and the latter is true. I hit above my point aim at 200. I hit below my point of aim at 300. Cheers.
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
Good catch. That was me. I pulled the shot. Every now and then I don’t catch verbal mistakes but that’s some good ears 😂 🙏
@Doodlefisher
@Doodlefisher 6 ай бұрын
Geeat food for thought! God bless!
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! God bless. 🙏
@sargmarine2353
@sargmarine2353 6 ай бұрын
Git some! Oorah🫡
@MrRedtiger62
@MrRedtiger62 6 ай бұрын
Is it alright to zero a 10.5 300 blackout at 36 yards?
@_SLAVEONE_
@_SLAVEONE_ 5 ай бұрын
Im assuming this works the same for a 3x prism ?
@Hook-N-Ladder
@Hook-N-Ladder 5 ай бұрын
Don't suppose there's a copy of that spreadsheet available online anywhere, is there? It's a little hard to make out some data from some of the other zeros, and I'm interested in comparing it to other dope charts I've got here.
@philipjones7094
@philipjones7094 5 ай бұрын
You ought to do a xm7 review
@rickyanderson2505
@rickyanderson2505 5 ай бұрын
at a 300 yard zero you wont hit high at 300 because its on an incline. Your bullet has already passed through your sight patch once and is dropping but at zero at 300. You shot high because you made a bad shot, or your zero is off.
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 5 ай бұрын
🤦‍♂️ You’re more concerned about your opinion than scientific data.
@rickyanderson2505
@rickyanderson2505 5 ай бұрын
@@frogmantactical No. The fact I
@rickyanderson2505
@rickyanderson2505 5 ай бұрын
@@frogmantactical Are you stating that the targets are on an incline? The 300 yard target is higher in elevation than the 200 yard target, etc.? Or are you saying that they are at the same height, but at 300 yards the bullet is traveling upward at an incline to meet the zero based on optic height?
@Abbynorml1979
@Abbynorml1979 5 ай бұрын
Wish I could see a red dot like most ppl.
@k9six185
@k9six185 5 ай бұрын
Your left eye dominant…….me too, pistol right hand rifle left
@k9six185
@k9six185 5 ай бұрын
Oops…thought I saw yer watch on yer left arm….straight up lefty
@jackwright9102
@jackwright9102 6 ай бұрын
Thanks 😮😮
@ROMEO-jr5dv
@ROMEO-jr5dv 6 ай бұрын
Great video! Can we download your excel spreadsheet as a point of reference?
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
I’d just snapshot it. I don’t have it to where you can download it per say.
@Outlander18
@Outlander18 4 ай бұрын
with a 36yd zero and 55gr, 16"bbl and 1:7 we see printing of about 6-8" high at 100. What are we doing wrong?
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 4 ай бұрын
Nothing. You are using a 16” barrel which has a higher velocity and full powder burn whereas a 10.5” won’t give that. 16” will usually produce 2850-2950 fps where with a 10.5” it’s closer to 2600 fps therefore the bullet is traveling faster with a longer barrel and will impact higher. Each round is different and will produce slightly different results based on round and barrel. Just pick a round you like and log the impacts and if needed make an adjustment. Combative just aim middle of torso and you will impact every time.
@Outlander18
@Outlander18 4 ай бұрын
@@frogmantactical Thank you
@19840b
@19840b 5 ай бұрын
0:49 dot size guarantees what your grouping should be at 100?
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 5 ай бұрын
No. The larger the dot, the harder it is to align over previous impact points. A smaller dot is easier to manage for precision. Just like a scope. The larger the cross hair, the more it takes up on target. 🙏
@tuckinfitties9511
@tuckinfitties9511 6 ай бұрын
I like 100 yd Zero. Aim high and let her fly.
@wingman8447
@wingman8447 6 ай бұрын
Very good
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. 🙏
@charlesmckinley29
@charlesmckinley29 5 ай бұрын
Why do people go to a high dollar class without spending $75 weekend at an Appleseed to work the bugs out of their kit and fundamentals?
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 5 ай бұрын
Because they don’t know the basics is what leads to being good. Everyone wants to operate and are impatient. This is also why most will never accomplish much. They want it now instead of investing time to grow. 🙏
@bobdole7701
@bobdole7701 6 ай бұрын
Answer is....100 yards!
@Succeedlikeyoubreathe
@Succeedlikeyoubreathe 5 ай бұрын
Stop hiding the food from the spotter.
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 5 ай бұрын
😂 The spotter always gets dibs on the sunflower seeds.
@Succeedlikeyoubreathe
@Succeedlikeyoubreathe 5 ай бұрын
@@frogmantactical haha yeah I saw that. Classic move.
@jhondoe6735
@jhondoe6735 5 ай бұрын
7yds
@Infantryman48
@Infantryman48 4 ай бұрын
What about a 50 yard zero?
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 4 ай бұрын
50 for a 5.56 is the flattest out to 300. Good zero as well.
@boomer_75
@boomer_75 5 ай бұрын
AR9 8" best zero? 25yrd? THX
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 5 ай бұрын
25-36.
@boomer_75
@boomer_75 5 ай бұрын
@@frogmantactical 🇨🇿👍
@civicsr2cool
@civicsr2cool 5 ай бұрын
Stop spreading bad information please. Your zero for ANY firearm should depend on a ballistics calculator that factors your barrel length and ammo’s velocity. Every barrel length change and change in ammo moves your zero drastically 👍
@frogmantactical
@frogmantactical 5 ай бұрын
Nonsense. This is not precision. It’s combative measures. The difference between a 10.5” and 16” barrel velocity and drop is not significant enough inside 300 yards. You can zero at any point from 25-300 yards and still impact at any given distance inside 300 yards on a human size target. It’s not even a debate. It’s scientific and proven time and time again. 👍
@andrewwarwick1305
@andrewwarwick1305 5 ай бұрын
50 m zero
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