From Contemplating Suicide To Coming Out To Anti-Gay Family

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@connorisawsome8440
@connorisawsome8440 2 жыл бұрын
Came out when I was 25 and it seems like a miracle that I ever did. My dad was the most viscerally homophobic person I ever knew and it broke his brain when he found out I was gay, he said horrible things to me and I then attempted suicide. I'm 28 now, I still struggle with depression, but things are gradually getting better. I feel very lucky to be out, alive, in therapy and I won't lose hope that things will get better.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
That's really islamophobic man do better
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a chance you could ever go back to liking women
@kingdomfor1
@kingdomfor1 2 жыл бұрын
How can you go back to liking women if you never did ?.
@bobthebear1246
@bobthebear1246 2 жыл бұрын
OMG. Strength to you, brother. HUGS. It *does* get better.
@y0nd3r
@y0nd3r 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely worth it. I had a similar step father. Nothing better than living authentically. You always know who your enemies are and sometimes that's family. That's unfortunate, but we only have one life to live and no time to waste on unproductive relationships. Be well.
@JFromAcc
@JFromAcc 2 жыл бұрын
Mike talks a lot about how his story will help other gay people, but frankly I think it's as helpful or more so for straight people who either don't get it or don't really even think that much about it. We all have a chance to understand and embrace this aspect of our society. We need to make it so it's not even a "thing" anymore.
@cloudyskies5497
@cloudyskies5497 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Dutch friend tell me "We don't say gay marriage in Holland; we just say marriage." It was legalized there in 1989 so it's been normal his whole life.
@thebigvlad
@thebigvlad 2 жыл бұрын
Holland is far more secular than the US so that makes sense. Religion is holding us back, but I think we'll get there someday.
@alveolate
@alveolate 2 жыл бұрын
i hope i'm not being over-sensitive about it, but it sounds weird to think this might be "as helpful or more so for straight people" just because they get informed about it. gay folks have to personally struggle with overt discrimination from their own families, to the extent that it forces many to contemplate or even commit suicide... there is just no way hearing this could be "more helpful" for straight folks. this testimony is helping those in the closet to realise they're not alone and there may be a way out that does not resort to suicide. gay people in mike's situation or worse who hear his story... might actually have their lives literally saved. for us straight folks, it's just a way to build empathy. but there is one group of straight folks who could really find this as/more helpful... homophobic folks who may be oppressing their own family members unwittingly. if they hear this story and a lightbulb goes off in their heads, maybe they re-evaluate their homophobic worldview. hopefully. and if they go on to reform themselves, then yes, that would be helpful for their closeted relatives as well.
@imperialmotoring3789
@imperialmotoring3789 Жыл бұрын
We need to stop pushing this LGBTQUIA nonsense on everyone. Keep your perversities to yourselves.
@iroquoispliskin708
@iroquoispliskin708 2 жыл бұрын
I am so happy and appreciative that Mike decided to share his story. More people should watch this. The most important take away for me is that being gay is as natural as being straight. Some people go through puberty and end up liking the same sex. There does not need to be some intervening sexual abuse or "grooming" that turns someone gay. That term is just foolish denial of the obvious truth that some people in our society will be gay. DEAL WITH IT!
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
Lol wtf
@bobthebear1246
@bobthebear1246 2 жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw Says the obvious homophobe 🙄 We See You.
@bobthebear1246
@bobthebear1246 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Well-stated.
@iroquoispliskin708
@iroquoispliskin708 2 жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw there are alot of straight people that believe that homosexuality is a departure from nature and that it is instead a symptom of sexual abuse or grooming. People need to understand that homosexuality is natural. It actually occurs in nature with other mamalian species. It does not require the experience of some intervening act that would otherwise ensure that a person turns out heterosexual. This "rationale" drives most of the homophobia in this country.
@insightfulhistorian1861
@insightfulhistorian1861 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, it is insecurity that drives people to hate others for being gay. They feel like their heterosexuality is threatened by the existence of homosexuality, because they have been told so by family and/or conservative media. Some people are simply too weak and terrified to handle the reality that sexual preference is not just male and female. So trying to deal with it would cause them to crumble mentally.
@nicn4873
@nicn4873 2 жыл бұрын
I am happy that Mike had the courage to come out and discuss this openly. Secrets can be devastating to the livelihood of that person and everyone around them. In contrast, look at all the positives he has done so far.
@tonystone10K
@tonystone10K 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we'll get to a point where it's seen as completely normal, and the notion of keeping it a secret would seem unnecessary. In a moral and humanly normal society, that's how it should be.
@osmansaid4601
@osmansaid4601 2 жыл бұрын
Courage! Fucking a man is a courage
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonystone10K yikes
@caseyczarnomski8054
@caseyczarnomski8054 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, all the positives like trashing healthcare for all and pleading with allowing tens of thousands of people to die without a vote on health care. Mike makes me sick, and that I used to trust his policy choices makes me even more sick.
@colico14
@colico14 2 жыл бұрын
The man has been incredibly successful. The way that he built the Humanist Report and a good life for himself is amazing. His story is to be celebrated. He's made it through hell and back, and he's undoubtedly a stronger person because of it. Absolutely. He's a damn fine role model, not only for LGBTQ+ folks, but for everyone. Happy Pride, Mike!
@Allen-vl9dr
@Allen-vl9dr 2 жыл бұрын
Big proud. I didn't come out till i was 23 years old after years of trying to be straight. Im now recently 31 and its been the best 8 years of my life.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
This is islamophobic
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
How could you not like women?
@ADDMATTable
@ADDMATTable 2 жыл бұрын
@@javiervega1065 is this sarcasm, or are you in the closet?
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
@@ADDMATTable I have your mom in the closet does that help?
@EvocativeKitsune
@EvocativeKitsune 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 24, and I'm hesitant to come out to my parents. The uncertainty of their response is what kills it. Maybe when I'm more independent, but it's a shame to hide part of oneself from loved ones.
@KMC5240
@KMC5240 2 жыл бұрын
Love this dude. We need to stick up more for the LGBT community.
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
No you don't
@mortyfromthed
@mortyfromthed 2 жыл бұрын
They just got a whole month of rainbows and grooming are kids I think they have accomplished there mission. Fuck all this nonsense.
@clamstea7036
@clamstea7036 2 жыл бұрын
for gays and lesbians, yes but every other letter forced their way into there for extreme narcissism.
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
@@clamstea7036 not even
@jaylinbenno8075
@jaylinbenno8075 Жыл бұрын
@@clamstea7036 no
@humbletotodile
@humbletotodile 2 жыл бұрын
You should never be ashamed of who you are. Period. I know it may suck, but you gotta have confidence in yourself and say "this is who I am". I'm straight but I'm very empathetic to the LGBTQ community. Be who you are and fuck all of those who have a problem with it 💪.
@jacobpickett5085
@jacobpickett5085 2 жыл бұрын
Mike is just such a great orator. His story is so powerful and he tells it so well.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
This story is extremely islamophobic
@jacobpickett5085
@jacobpickett5085 2 жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw lol what?
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobpickett5085 being gay is extremely islamophobic, don't be a bigot
@jacobpickett5085
@jacobpickett5085 2 жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw please explain lol
@miguelzavaleta1911
@miguelzavaleta1911 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobpickett5085 They're just trolling you, bro.
@superbide
@superbide 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to your guest for sharing his story. It makes me feel like such an asshole for not accepting or advocating for gay people growing up. All I can do now is realize how wrong I was, and make sure I do what I can to be better in the future. It's important for all of us to recognize our shared humanity and fight for one another in solidarity.
@Shark-hn4mv
@Shark-hn4mv 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody has to advocate for anything. The only thing you owe others is not harassing them.
@TK-rd3yn
@TK-rd3yn 2 жыл бұрын
The important thing to me is that you changed your mind. I have my rights today because people like you fought for me when the time came. Thank you.
@802Garage
@802Garage 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shark-hn4mv EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH while I get what you are saying... Tell that to persecuted peoples throughout history. There is of course a classic example everyone brings up. A lot of gays were included there. They certainly needed advocacy.
@stephm.3407
@stephm.3407 2 жыл бұрын
As Maya Angelou stated so eloquently "when you know better, you do better".
@cloudyskies5497
@cloudyskies5497 2 жыл бұрын
I second what other commenters have said, that now you know, so you're good. You can protect gay marriage if it ever gets contested (hopefully it won't). If something happens in the future, if you have a gay friend you can ask them what you could do to help out, etc. You don't have to become some kind of activist, just being a good friend goes a long way.
@AntiGOPnet
@AntiGOPnet 2 жыл бұрын
Mike is without a doubt the nicest guy in the Entire KZbin space!
@paddleduck5328
@paddleduck5328 2 жыл бұрын
And he’s not even Canadian! 😘
@CINDYMDEMAMBRO
@CINDYMDEMAMBRO 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, both of you are. love you both. 😍🥰💯💯❤❤
@zeocamo
@zeocamo 2 жыл бұрын
he is part of the TYT network.
@GolemRising
@GolemRising 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeocamo OK, and?
@ashlealabine6937
@ashlealabine6937 2 жыл бұрын
He has such down to earth, kind vibes. He's definitely a favorite of mine.
@Domzdream
@Domzdream 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to see you both (Kyle and Mike) on the same screen. I'm a big fan of you both.
@drunkendevil
@drunkendevil 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard this story a few times now and it still hits me the same way as when I first heard it. I can’t imagine having such hate towards someone for just being themselves. Thanks Mike for sharing your story. ❤️
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
Chill with the islamophobia
@AlbertoGarcia-wd7sc
@AlbertoGarcia-wd7sc 2 жыл бұрын
"You can go backwards really easily" This is what people don't understand. Just because now we have certain rights that doesn't mean we can't lose them.
@christineherrmann205
@christineherrmann205 2 жыл бұрын
Good interview! I watch you both, so this wasn't exactly new, but I think you did a good job delicately discussing this topic. Not having family to back you up, as Mike says, is thankfully becoming less common.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
This is islamophobic do better
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
This soy boy condescending sneaky weasel is a partisan hack cucklinski wants his advice for himself
@PieDisliker
@PieDisliker 2 жыл бұрын
Woah. The power of Mike's story is inspiring. Really great to hear his parents accepted him, even if some family members didn't. Mike, if you see this, I'm so thankful you're still here in this world. You not only belong, but you're doing more than your fair share to make a positive difference. Thank you for choosing to come out and share your story.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
Chill with the Islamophobic fascist intersectional imperialism
@MuscleBound_withDre
@MuscleBound_withDre 2 жыл бұрын
Stuff like this is the reason why I follow left leaning channels. You will never get this genuine humanity from ANY right leaning channel, host or person.
@tranquillo2741
@tranquillo2741 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but what exactly is a woman?? 🤪
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
You obviously don't watch any right-leaning channels lmao
@BlackStar-hy1iy
@BlackStar-hy1iy 2 жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw 0_0 How often is the above their message?
@dagsouleyedblue407
@dagsouleyedblue407 2 жыл бұрын
Love Mike to bits, in all the years i watch his content he's been the most consistent commentator bar none while also not afraid to take himself not too seriously
@brothersandsistersofvalhalla
@brothersandsistersofvalhalla 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I had to stop watching his content cause a lot of it became too immature for my tastes.
@rrubens3026
@rrubens3026 2 жыл бұрын
Yay love Mike Fettuccine 😆
@zeocamo
@zeocamo 2 жыл бұрын
that is because he's owners at TYT want him to be, he is a part of the TYT network
@paddleduck5328
@paddleduck5328 2 жыл бұрын
@@rrubens3026 Mike fettuccine 😄
@jarrettlowery2802
@jarrettlowery2802 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeocamo I'm pretty sure he left tyt about a year ago
@NatNat-uu9cs
@NatNat-uu9cs 2 жыл бұрын
Interviews like this are so so so important, to all sides. Loved it.
@shelbs4life589
@shelbs4life589 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story Mike. ❤️❤️❤️
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
This story is extremely islamophobic and bigoted
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
Why it was trash
@dlg5485
@dlg5485 2 жыл бұрын
I was raised in a super religious family too and even now at 52, I'm still not a well adjusted gay man. I was also homophobic as a gay kid to overcompensate and thinking back on that time now makes me sick and fills me with self hate. The shame that I still can't seem to shake prevents me from really living my life fully and on my own terms. I feel like I've missed out on so much of life and that makes me angry. I know I need therapy, but I can't afford it so I just keep on going best I can. Good for you Mike! You did the right thing by coming out, even if it was risky and difficult. I only wish I had that much courage 30+ years ago.
@corxiiifelinike2643
@corxiiifelinike2643 2 жыл бұрын
30 years ago, if you came out, your life could’ve been in danger. So don’t sweat too much about it. It’s not your fault the majority are stupid and ignorant
@glen7228
@glen7228 2 жыл бұрын
I've always said the reason I know people are born gay is because of my mom's lifelong best friend's two kids, a boy and a girl. The boy was a year younger than me and the girl was a year older. I have a sister who is three years older than I am. So we were all close enough in age that we played together whenever our mom and their mom were hanging out, which was a lot because they were best friends since childhood. So here's the point of my story, the boy was very effeminate and had been that way from the minute he could walk and talk. His mom would always call him her little fairy, and he loved it. His sister was, you guessed it, a total tomboy, she always played with me and he was always tagging along after my sister. Anyway they both grew up to be gay, just like everyone expected them to, because that's the way they were born. So that's how I learned that people are born to be who they are, it isn't a learned behavior or even a choice, it just is. Oh yeah, we were children in the 60s and being gay wasn't something people had a lot of discussion about.
@davidjorgensen877
@davidjorgensen877 2 жыл бұрын
My daughter came out to me when she was 14, in a sudden and nonchalant way. What tripped me up was that she and her circle of friends' interests were more in line with 11 year-olds than high-schoolers - none of them to that point had ever expressed any interest in relationships of any kind. So when she told me she was "dating" a female Internet chat-friend (dating someone you'd never met being a completely foreign and dubious concept to my then 55-year old self), it seemed to me that either she was gay as reported, or she was perceiving a relationship based more on her very active imagination than a realistic understanding of her actual sexual preference. My response was something like, "That's cool, but until you're absolutely sure, maybe don't advertise it in case you decide different later." That night, as she heard me explaining our conversation with her mother, she came to us and said it had all been a joke triggered by a dare from her friends. She didn't set the record straight for another 3 years. When she came out the second time, she was that much older that there was no ambiguity. It breaks my heart that something I said reflexively out of love and concern for her best interests managed to drive her back into hiding for that long. Everything's fine now, and it always would have been if she'd just given us the chance to talk it through the first time. Looking back, even she can't explain why she didn't. By Michael's description of his upbringing, his fears and concerns sound very legitimate, but we have always been a very open and progressive-minded family. It just goes to show how difficult the road remains for same-sex and transgendered kids that they still feel unsafe coming out even to parents who, by all measures, have been nothing but open-minded and accepting in their views and actions. The stigma remains.
@Zoulz666
@Zoulz666 2 жыл бұрын
Mike is such a great guy. Can't even begin to imagine how difficult it must be for people to grow up under these circumstances where you have to hide who you are or even convince yourself that you're someone else.
@loulfw2513
@loulfw2513 2 жыл бұрын
And he used to be on the left as well. Now he, like Kyle, has drifted away form there which might explain why they have lost viewers. I couldn't care less that he's gay, but maybe because I did not grow upon the US, nor was I taught hatred or fear of gays, blacks, or Non Jews. I care that he still often defends or apologizes for the DNC.
@mhkpt
@mhkpt 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this with everyone, Mike.
@BlackWolf4830
@BlackWolf4830 2 жыл бұрын
My boyfriend is from Idaho and he had a lot of experiences that I do not envy, including familial rejection
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares
@ADDMATTable
@ADDMATTable 2 жыл бұрын
@@javiervega1065 found you again. Yup Javi in the closet. It’s ok. I accept you Javi. You can come out now.
@BlackWolf4830
@BlackWolf4830 2 жыл бұрын
@@javiervega1065 obviously the 26 people that liked my comment do, as would presumably anybody in Kyle kulinskis audience. So go on now
@cosmosofinfinity
@cosmosofinfinity 2 жыл бұрын
@@javiervega1065 You seem to be bothered by it, so... you care?
@DamagedSoda
@DamagedSoda 6 ай бұрын
@@ADDMATTable He is def in the closet. He also might be in a relationship with his dad or something to be this upset
@iLLYeNYC
@iLLYeNYC 2 жыл бұрын
You know Mike, this is the 2nd video I've watched about your journey and I must admit that it still brings me to tears even contemplating what you must have gone through during your younger years to come out and admit who you are. I'm an educator and a newish dad and I tell my young daughter every day that no matter what, she will be and always remain the love of life no matter what. I have had a number of students on mine come out to me thinking that I would think differently of them and I point them to your channel whenever they need answers or struggle with coming out to their parents. It pains me to see whats happening in red states where educators like myself are essentially prohibited for recognizing students for who they truly are. Not only are you an inspiration politically, but you are also an inspiration for educators like me to do everything in our power to make our students know that no matter what, they are loved and cherished. I teach at an all boys school in NYC and with the complications of Covid and everything else, I try my best to let students know that they can confide in me to tell me and other teachers that they're conversations and secrets are safe with us. Thank you for everything that you do on a daily basis to not only educate, but to inform those of us who might not know what to expect from our students. One thing I know for sure is that I will do everything I can to ensure that my boys (my students) have a safe space with me and in the confines of my classroom no matter what. Even as a Christian, I believe in everlasting love in every way no matter what form it takes. I always tell my students that even as a Christian, I believe in love, no matter what form it might take, although some might disagree, but I dgaf! My students and their safety come 1st before anything. Again, Thank you so much for your support and revealing your story to us. I hope that as an educator, I can give my students an opportunity to confide in me and our safe space without feeling or going through what you had to endure. We love you Mike. Thank you so much for telling us your story.
@Asha-TheBarefootMuse
@Asha-TheBarefootMuse Жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore Mike! I’d never heard his coming out story until today - he linked this video under a recent video about the shite that’s going on with TYT… anyhow, so grateful to have been able to watch this. I feel really blessed because “coming out” wasn’t something I ever really had to do. I’m 48 and was raised by a beautiful agnostic black father and a beautiful Jewish Mother, who was bisexual. They had an open marriage for a bit when I was young but eventually decided to close the marriage back up. But my point of mentioning all of that is to say - I was raised by parents who always told me “love is love”, and “It doesn’t matter who you love, so long as you love”. I knew from a very early age that I was a lesbian. I had my first girlfriend in high school and so was “out” my entire childhood. It wasn’t easy - at all. And now I’ve been crazy-in-love married to my wife for 17+ years. Of course I’ve had plenty of friends who had an extremely difficult time not only coming out but also first coming to terms with and accepting who they are. My wife and I both have done our best to become safe havens for others who’re struggling - at any stage. We’re stronger together. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🫶🏽
@LaurenElizabethYT
@LaurenElizabethYT 2 жыл бұрын
“There’s lots of straight men who want to be with other men!” lol I relate a lot to this. I’m bi, only realized/accepted this relatively recently …. But I’ve always known I was attracted to girls. I remember literally saying “Girls are hot as fuck, but I’m not gay” 🤣 or “lots of straight girls find chicks hot” And now that I’ve accepted the fact I’m bi, I’m looking back at that like “Wtf? How did I deny this for so long?”
@HelFrostKara
@HelFrostKara 2 жыл бұрын
"Surely if sexuality is a choice, people would just choose to be bisexual???" - Me, before realising I was bisexual hehe
@jamesoquinn9168
@jamesoquinn9168 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that statement derailed me a bunch of times too. I think I outed myself MANY MANY times before I was able to accept it.
@LaurenElizabethYT
@LaurenElizabethYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesoquinn9168 same. I remember a friend once thought I was bi, and I was like “Whaat? No I’m straight, how could you think I was bi?” … yet looking back, the frequency I commented on women I was into/found attractive, or other comments, I don’t blame at all her for assuming I was bi. And turns out she was right lmao
@Subtletext
@Subtletext 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenElizabethYT we're all somewhere on the Kinsey scale - with most somewhere between the far ends.
@ryankramer8779
@ryankramer8779 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't find out myself until a little over a year ago
@mr.pritchard67
@mr.pritchard67 2 жыл бұрын
If people cannot accept us for who we are, then they aren't worth our time. Even if they are blood related. I came out publicly about living with HIV and have family that I haven't ever heard from again. I'm ok with that because I have plenty of people in my life who support me and have given me love. Good for you Mike! Stay strong and keep fighting the good fight! 🌈
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
This is islamophobic bigot do better
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 2 жыл бұрын
Your strength, your amazing content and awesome self trumps all the naysayers and bigots, Mike
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
This is extremely islamophobic
@yaquvyhardson3768
@yaquvyhardson3768 2 жыл бұрын
Takes conviction and bravery what he did. Great interview.
@brothersandsistersofvalhalla
@brothersandsistersofvalhalla 2 жыл бұрын
Remind me of a quote I made a few years back. "Bravery is not feeling no fear but being afraid and overcoming that fear anyway."
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
His story is highly islamophobic
@yaquvyhardson3768
@yaquvyhardson3768 2 жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw ?
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't he's overeaggerating trying to be the victim.
@brothersandsistersofvalhalla
@brothersandsistersofvalhalla 2 жыл бұрын
@@javiervega1065 Are you saying gays aren't a persecuted minority?
@Mark-zu6oz
@Mark-zu6oz 2 жыл бұрын
This was incredible and moving. I felt much the same way, and it wasn't until I was in my mid-40s that I accepted myself. The rest is still a work in progress.
@LilChuunosuke
@LilChuunosuke 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy Mike had an easier time than expected coming out to his parents! At the end of the day, please remember to trust your gut when coming out to people. If you don't feel safe coming out, then don't. If you do, maybe prepare backup precautions, but there's no shame in coming out. I was in an opposite situation than him. My parents only let out a couple tiny red flags here and there, mostly about trans women, but especially as they weren't religious and we live in Massachusetts, it really seemed like it wouldn't be as bad as I made it out to be in my head if I came out. They found out I was gay after I moved away and cut contact with them. They have not told me they know. I found out from a friends' parents who wanted to repair my relationship with my parents, only for my parents to out me to them & my parents told them that if I ever needed to move back home, they'd force me to undergo therapy, hormone therapy, and however many doctors appointments it would take to "make me straight again." I trusted my gut and it saved me from being forced into conversion therapy. Coming out can either be one of the most freeing experiences of your life or the most dangerous. Do what you think will keep you the happiest and the safest.
@ryanra44
@ryanra44 2 жыл бұрын
Ready good conversation. I have a new found respect for Mike after hearing that.
@runrafarunthebestintheworld
@runrafarunthebestintheworld 2 жыл бұрын
*Really
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
Why he's a soy boy condescending sneaky weasel cucklinski wants his advice for himself
@ALL_CAPS__
@ALL_CAPS__ 2 жыл бұрын
What a story. As sad as some parts are, everyone should listen to this story and learn some lessons. There will always be people in life that don't accept you for one reason or another. It's their loss. You cannot love others properly until you learn to love yourself. Hopefully they come around with time. If not, continue living your life.
@nexttytreporter2598
@nexttytreporter2598 2 жыл бұрын
I love that Mike's parents accepted it, despite their own personal feelings, they decided no he is my son and I love him no matter what.
@Domzdream
@Domzdream 2 жыл бұрын
Two of some of my best buddies are as gay as the rainbow. I love them both, irrespective of being the straightest guy on the planet. They're both getting married. I do not care how gay or straight one is. I care that these people love each other. Doesn't bother me at all. But even if it did - it's none of my business what two consenting adults choose to do. This is something that Right Wingers and ovewrall religious people will never comprehend.
@seandoyle296
@seandoyle296 2 жыл бұрын
It's a bizarre concept to me, though I'm neither religious or a father, to reject the child you've fostered the growth of - after DECADES - because they share a bedroom with the same sex. Literally the only matter you'll be least involved with them in their lives, is the one that makes you turn away from and disown them? Makes one wonder if you ever loved them at all.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
This is extremely islamophobic do better
@anticorncob6
@anticorncob6 2 жыл бұрын
Religion can make otherwise good people do bad things.
@ADDMATTable
@ADDMATTable 2 жыл бұрын
@@anticorncob6 religion is the one corporation that is worse than Amazon. They don’t even pay taxes. And don’t tell me the only purpose of religion is to sell to suckers.
@tiffanywatson7615
@tiffanywatson7615 2 жыл бұрын
My heart 😭 Mike, I adore you!! Thank you for sharing your journey. The anxiety you must of went through. I’m certain this video will help many. I grew up being taught we love who we love… But, I live in the deep South and have known many who struggle coming out like you did. It just breaks my heart. My hope is that with each generation we become better.
@ethicalphytophage
@ethicalphytophage 2 жыл бұрын
Mike gets an A+ in character. He kept the identity of the family member who caused him so much pain private, and that's what gets him an A+.
@loulfw2513
@loulfw2513 2 жыл бұрын
In THIS in terview. He (I believe) has talked about him before. I'm not sure. I don't follow him closely because he posts items of less and less substance.
@student99bg
@student99bg Жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong in not exposing the wrongdoers. The right thing is to expose the wrongdoers and their wrongdoing.
@repeatsitself
@repeatsitself 2 жыл бұрын
I have even more respect for you than I did before, for your views, ideas, heart, etc.
@markmirabella4066
@markmirabella4066 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you. I can’t imagine being raised in such a cruel household and the damage that must have done to your self esteem. I’m really glad you’re here and didn’t end it.
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
He's trying to play the victim for being a partisan hack dufus
@theeboss93
@theeboss93 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from a family similar to Mike’s (grew up in an evangelical household) , it is extremely brave for him to come out in that circumstance. Happy that his parents were accepting for the most part, others are not so lucky.
@jonigarciajg
@jonigarciajg 2 жыл бұрын
Mike went through all of that yet maintained his humanity. He is truly a humanist as the name of his show suggests
@jackiecooper9439
@jackiecooper9439 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure stories like this online, helps gay ppl all over the world to some extent. The feeling of not being alone or not being an "abnornal outcast" could be soothing for many.
@jaykay415
@jaykay415 2 жыл бұрын
I never really thought about the "constant coming out" aspect of it - mentioning your husband to new friends or whatever. It's more low-level stress, but always a stress.
@perryax5490
@perryax5490 2 жыл бұрын
The two guys I watch in one video. It finally happened!
@Hyperion_100
@Hyperion_100 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great interview!
@darrenbennett3653
@darrenbennett3653 2 жыл бұрын
As an old, straight guy, I found this to be such an interesting, terrible, human story. Need more like this.
@RoccosVideos
@RoccosVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Breaking it down into those three stages of coming out makes sense. I did one and two but step three I debate if I should sometimes and with who.
@thestormwar
@thestormwar 2 жыл бұрын
I hadn't really considered the third coming out being a constant case by case, person by person call. A bit eye opening.
@Subtletext
@Subtletext 2 жыл бұрын
@@thestormwar agreed, I don't "come out" as straight. My partner has a gender neutral name and although we are hetero I would correct everyone if they assumed he was my female partner. Also fuck em..if your nearest and dearest know let everyone know if the topic comes up.
@paddleduck5328
@paddleduck5328 2 жыл бұрын
💛
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
Coming out is extremely islamophobic. Dont be a bigot
@y0nd3r
@y0nd3r 2 жыл бұрын
Be Out. It's the most important thing you can do for the future of gay people. I'm 61 and have never hidden who I am. As a consequence I've put up with a lot of hateful people. You're welcome.
@jingbot1071
@jingbot1071 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine came out after a similar confrontation with his attraction to dudes. He basically made some comment about "but all straight guys fantasize about other dudes, that doesn't make them gay!" and was surprised as hell when I responded with "Uh...nah?" Super glad he and his fiancee are doing good now. Haven't talked to him in a couple years but I hear from mutual friends he's got a concrete pouring business and a wonderful relationship. Glad he doesn't have to suffer and lie constantly anymore.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
This story is highly islamophobic.
@jingbot1071
@jingbot1071 2 жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw lol wut
@williambrock3534
@williambrock3534 2 жыл бұрын
Amen bro. You hit how it feels on the head on every level! Never realized how much we had in common.
@melonrobotics
@melonrobotics 2 жыл бұрын
God damn. Breaks my heart for everyone in the lgbtq community.
@bronzee548
@bronzee548 2 жыл бұрын
Awww♥️. You guys together. I love the humanist report.
@ms.bunniesarecute2287
@ms.bunniesarecute2287 2 жыл бұрын
Great collab, I love Mike ❤. Great to see this 🥰
@fisheatsteel
@fisheatsteel 2 жыл бұрын
These are honestly the best kind of conversations. What an amazing man. Someone will watch this that is having the same feelings that he had and hopefully it will make them not feel like they are alone and have to be ashamed of themselves. Sometimes that can be the first step for someone being brave enough to be honest with their sexuality. I'm 34 and my sexuality still confuses me.
@thecatsbackyard4833
@thecatsbackyard4833 2 жыл бұрын
Tears... I like this guy. I seen a bunch of his videos.
@paulswabek173
@paulswabek173 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's a lot of people who are super homophobic as soon as someone who's close to them comes out it changes their tune. maybe not entirely at 1st but they realize maybe they are being hateful because someone they care about is this thing that they have had no sensitivity or consideration for before. But now that is someone that they know or are related to they start to realize that they love you unconditionally and through unconditional love it changes their attitude immensely. Maybe not all people but for the ones who are willing to take family over religion as a monolith. It's becoming more common I feel like. Not trying to belittle your coming out experience or the anxiety involved for anyone that has to do that. But I think from the gay community we can realize that not every homophobe is staunchly homophobic they can change it's just a matter of what they're exposed too and how they're exposed to it
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
Chill with the islamophobia
@ADDMATTable
@ADDMATTable 2 жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw Nice strawman, but kinda boring reading the same comment from ya for the 10th time. You in the closet like Javier Vega here too? Maybe you twos should hook up in the closet. Come out together. We support you guys. Look forward to your wedding.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
@@ADDMATTable I'm not homophobic so your comment doesn't bother me. The rampant islamophobia in this page is noted however may Allah smite all
@robinstack7309
@robinstack7309 2 жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw hey in a lot of cases that is used to shut down debate. I have issues with the koran's texts but no issues with most muslims.
@Cthulhu4President
@Cthulhu4President Жыл бұрын
Before I even started dating, my parents flat out told me if they one day found out I was gay they would disown me. My parents verbally and mentally abused me any chance they got and actively attacked my relationships with other people, romantic or otherwise. My father's lack of self control led to a nearly yearly fistfight between the both of us. I fought through being suicidal with no medication, no support group, no help of any kind. Then my parents came in 25+ years late trying to buy their way into my life by offering to pay for a wedding between myself and a young woman I'd been with for a decade. I repaid them for years of abuse by allowing them to pay for our wedding before basically cutting them off altogether. Then they again tried to buy their way into my life with a bag of weed. Took the weed and told them to get lost. No Amount Of Money Will Fix What They Did, And Will Continue To Do If I Keep Them In My Life. -Yes, they both watch Fox and voted for Trump.
@MH-bw9zt
@MH-bw9zt 2 жыл бұрын
I also knew I was gay as early as 6. I mean I didn't know for sure at the time, because i didn't know what gay was. Never seen or heard of any gay people until like middle school. But same thing with the crushes and all that, it was just always innate despite never being "exposed" to any gay depictions, references, or anything. Also despite not knowing what gay was, I knew it was something bad. I knew it was nothing I could never express or mention. I knew from such a young age that I was something bad and different and that just built up and got more intense. When i got to middle school and really knew what it was and realized just how bad it was and how everyone despised it, that's when the suicidal feelings started. I thought with those for about 10 years until i was 23 and finally decided to end it. I came very close and really shouldn't have made it. It's been like 5 years since then and ever since then I wished I had succeeded. It's was so hard to get the nerve to make the 1st attempt and it's still that hard to make another one. Idk how long it'll take me but I just know for sure I don't see 40. That's something I've thought since middle school. I figured I'd make half the country happy, 1 less homo plaguing them. And it's hard to get passed that when it's true. But whatever, just the story of another degenerate
@MadameCasper
@MadameCasper 2 жыл бұрын
You're not a degenerate. I'd like it if you stayed past 40 but I understand. I wouldn't let them win. You deserve to be here as much as anyone does. I hope you find happiness and acceptance.
@SunDHamilton
@SunDHamilton 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you guys talked with Mike about this. I’m sorry you had to go through all of that Mike! I’ve had so many friends come out and some got lucky with supportive parents, but most, especially here in the Bible Belt, had parents who reacted very differently. Even now when they’re in their 40s, there parents still ignore that aspect of their life. Big hugs to you and your hubby, and your dogs, Mike!
@schmonsequences
@schmonsequences 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling your story. I can't imagine the courage it takes to come out. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and regularly used gay slurs. It was just common language and I didn't know anyone it might offend. Now I realize I'm sure I did, and can't imagine the harm that was done. Sorry from an ignorant middle ager.
@Yallaintreadyfosho
@Yallaintreadyfosho 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I'm glad you were honest about that. I grew up in the 80s and 90s also...was gay and still gay ✌️. I never tried being with women, never needed to
@student99bg
@student99bg Жыл бұрын
Today I had a meetup with 2 colleagues, one of them casually shitted on gay people, I didn't say much as I don't care that much about the issue and I didn't want to create tension. The other colleague engaged in the conversation and he later said something along the lines of "I think more than half of gay people are gay because they think it is cool and it is normalized in their social circles". Idk man, but I think he might be one of those gays that is trying to cover it up by being more homophobic than the casually homophobic guy. If you don't realize why I think that then read what he said again, now maybe he mindlessly repeated what someone else has said without giving any thoughts to it, but if that is not the case then there is very good probability that he is gay, and he was forced to say homophobic things himself because the other guy started saying homophobic things (completely unprovoked). I now realize how bad it was for the guy to start saying homophobic things because the other one might be gay, but at the time I just assumed we were all straight so I didn't pay much attention to what he was saying, I didn't really care.
@enormouslittlethings6893
@enormouslittlethings6893 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing but love for Mike! ❤️
@michaelh.117
@michaelh.117 2 жыл бұрын
Love you, Mike! (Love seeing all three of you together! Along with Bad Faith, Rational National, and Useful Idiots, you guys are the best.) I'm so sorry you had to go through all that, Mike. You're such a good, good soul--I can't understand how anyone wouldn't put THAT first.
@didograce3531
@didograce3531 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have a drink with Humanist Report, my own experiences were very similar. Great interview.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
Terminally online leftist spews islamophobic intolerance
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
He's a partisan hack dufus soy boy condescending sneaky weasel cucklinski wants his advice for himself
@Madamchief
@Madamchief 2 жыл бұрын
Omahgawd I love these 3 together! You're my hero Mike! Thank you Kyle and Krystal for having him in 💕
@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist
@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist 2 жыл бұрын
As a gay dude myself, I'm glad I have an accepting family. Hearing the horror stories of other gay guys coming out made me realize how fortunate I was/am in that regard.
@oengusfearghas9608
@oengusfearghas9608 2 жыл бұрын
I can relate to this, I was in a committed relationship for at least the better part of a decade or longer before finally telling my parents. I'm still not sure if the scars from all the religious bigotry will ever fade though, especially with the likes of the NIFB, etc constantly trying to tear those wounds back open. It is astonishing the amount of hatred people whom claim to be loving can harbor deep within the core of their being.
@michaelfiedler1419
@michaelfiedler1419 2 жыл бұрын
Much of what explains rings more than only one bell. I expected my parents to freak, they didn't, my friends mostly accepted it and even my crush from somewhere in flyover land, even kinda accepted it.
@jameslebron2403
@jameslebron2403 2 жыл бұрын
Alongside Kyle, Mike is one of my favourite YT commentators. I'd also recommend the Rational National
@rrubens3026
@rrubens3026 2 жыл бұрын
My top 3 also love them all and krystal of course too!!
@TheAstraeuss
@TheAstraeuss 2 жыл бұрын
Love all those people as well but Mike is probably my favorite to be honest, he's just so down to earth honest.
@randomthings1293
@randomthings1293 2 жыл бұрын
Check out "Good Politic Guy"!!
@jameslebron2403
@jameslebron2403 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomthings1293 An up and comer for sure. Wishing him all the best!
@paddleduck5328
@paddleduck5328 2 жыл бұрын
😊👍
@dogblessamerica
@dogblessamerica 2 жыл бұрын
Found it interesting how Mike said all the little homophobic comments his dad made, made him think he wouldn't accept him. Glad he turned out to be wrong. My dad died before I came out properly so we never got to have that conversation. It's not good to have unfinished conversations like that.
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should try to change back?
@JamesSmith-ts7mu
@JamesSmith-ts7mu 2 жыл бұрын
This was my testimony, except I came out when I was 18.
@Ianpact
@Ianpact 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this on your channel, Kyle. Thank you for sharing your story, Mike.
@lasseindergaard6487
@lasseindergaard6487 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched politics since 2015 Mike and Kyle is still rock solid in line with my values🥰🥰
@hotshockstuff
@hotshockstuff 2 жыл бұрын
I can relate to this story very much as I grew up evangelical, was sent to straight camp for conversion therapy, and had to deal with many people I knew turning on me (even those who came out later in their own life). Unfortunately, the stigma against gay people still lives on in America and occasionally I still get slurs when on a date with my fiance (very soon to be husband).
@jibolaf1
@jibolaf1 2 жыл бұрын
Hooooly shit. Thank you for sharing that man. So insightful
@sharongillesp
@sharongillesp 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for sharing! It was so well articulated. I don’t know anyone personally who is gay or at least hasn’t come out to say so. But I think the way you expressed your experience will be so beneficial to anyone struggling to embrace their truest self.
@nomadsland8322
@nomadsland8322 2 жыл бұрын
That part about “3 parts of coming out” is fucking on point. Not just with being gay that’s just generally true for accepting parts of yourself unapologetically.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 2 жыл бұрын
Islamophobia isn't cool man
@jcc2725
@jcc2725 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful moment of humanity that is this episode. Thank you for sharing your story.
@Sky_TeeHee
@Sky_TeeHee 2 жыл бұрын
I love hearing Mike's story. Never gets old. I remember the first time I heard it in Twitch - I cried. 😭
@YoloSwagkiller1997
@YoloSwagkiller1997 2 жыл бұрын
This is truly an ambitious crossover!
@markishill3707
@markishill3707 2 жыл бұрын
14:32 i have seen this reaction for a number of things from interracial dating to pregnancy announcements. It's really a shame that the older generations were beaten into submission on their conservative views.
@rozzaziobrown6515
@rozzaziobrown6515 Жыл бұрын
The more I see of Mike the more I like him. Seems like a very kind person
@EliBlu
@EliBlu 2 ай бұрын
Mike and Kyle are my fave BOYZ this was wonderful thank you
@hrodebertcoad9848
@hrodebertcoad9848 2 жыл бұрын
I was so convinced that I was straight that when I finally gave in to the fact that I liked guys I then had to convince myself that I was bi... Troubled times
@runrafarunthebestintheworld
@runrafarunthebestintheworld 2 жыл бұрын
Oof.
@nicholashazlett4369
@nicholashazlett4369 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan of Mike! Great interview
@carsonwieker
@carsonwieker 2 жыл бұрын
Great convo guys, cheers.
@sholbk
@sholbk 2 жыл бұрын
I watched Mike’s coming out show. It was very good. I recommend it to everyone.
@carolinep.7580
@carolinep.7580 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Definitely could help lots of “someone”’s
@ShadowProject01
@ShadowProject01 2 жыл бұрын
I was extremely fortunate. As a black gay man from a Christian family, I was alway attracted to men as afar back as I could remember. I went through contemplation of suicide myself, so when my father found out when I was 17 I thought this was it. My father was so very disappointed in me. Not because I was gay, but because I thought I could do anything to make him stop loving me. The rest of my family (brothers, mom, aunt, and grandma) followed suite. I had such a great support line I found coming out to the rest of the world so much easier. This was in the early 90s. So glad you came out and are a better person for it, Mike.
@jamesoquinn9168
@jamesoquinn9168 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew Mike's story. Thanx for sharing it.
@ritae5316
@ritae5316 2 жыл бұрын
My brother and I grew up as Jehovah's Witnesses, and I totally feel for you, my brother is gay and this is so similar to his story. I love him even more for being honest and standing up for himself, as did I. Fuck the haters....
@xxPARAMOREFANMANxx
@xxPARAMOREFANMANxx 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with everything mike says but I greatly admire his ability to stand on what he believes in unabashedly. great segment!
@Yallaintreadyfosho
@Yallaintreadyfosho 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Mike! You are absolutely right with everything you said . I have experienced it all
@eriklunden5218
@eriklunden5218 8 ай бұрын
Such a critical testimony. Eloquent and poignant. Mike does such a good job, and seems like an amazing fellow. I'm so glad he is here with us, and I hope he never feels excluded again.
@vp3970
@vp3970 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 74 and when I was younger I was super homophobic and now with my own children and grandchildren I thought often of homosexuality and my family. What help me resolve this phobia was the thinking that, God loves gays and queers. Which is true God loves all his children and this feeling burned in my soul. Recently my granddaughter flew home to come out, after she made the announcement I remarked, so whats for dinner and my daughter- her auntie said Hawaiian stew. My granddaughter was shocked and happy. As Christian what we should do is let God figure it out and not judge. Peace and goodness to you sir- grandpa from Hawaii. 🌺🌸
@javiervega1065
@javiervega1065 2 жыл бұрын
Only in some wacko aloha state would they say something like that
@BaronBacon
@BaronBacon 2 жыл бұрын
There is no god, so don't be putting words in his imaginary mouth.
@vp3970
@vp3970 2 жыл бұрын
@@javiervega1065 Hmmmm must be the asshole state, figures.
@shayanahsan2151
@shayanahsan2151 2 жыл бұрын
My friend recently asked: “are you ever gonna come out to your parents and date someone?” Me: “yeah but when they die” I know we’ve come really far in terms of lgbtq acceptance and ppl think it isn’t even an issue anymore but there’s still ppl like me who will never get to live the way they are, the way they were born to.
@paddleduck5328
@paddleduck5328 2 жыл бұрын
💛
@waltergrace565
@waltergrace565 2 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@cloudyskies5497
@cloudyskies5497 2 жыл бұрын
Are your parents really worth you waiting till you're sixty to live your life? What if they make it to triple digits before they conk off? Why not just make things long distance so you can live your own life and they don't know or something.
@dlg5485
@dlg5485 2 жыл бұрын
@@cloudyskies5497 It's obviously not that simple. Shame is an unbelievably powerful emotion that can utterly ruin your life, no matter how rational you are otherwise. If your parents and other loved ones smother you in shame and make you feel guilty simply for who you are, it robs you of just about everything that makes you you. I am speaking with the experience of a 52 year old gay man who is STILL haunted by the shame my (now deceased) parents heaped upon me and the self hate and guilt that it instilled. People who haven't experienced this kind of profound familial betrayal simply do not get it.
@cloudyskies5497
@cloudyskies5497 2 жыл бұрын
@@dlg5485 Thanks for your reply, and you're right about shame and that my experience was different. I knew I had to cut my parents out of my life, so I did. I still needed years of counseling to start unraveling the thought patterns they put in my head that I didn't want there anymore. But I'm also in an emotional place where I knew I was better off without them so I made it work. It was a rough road financially in terms of not having any support. But I knew I had to be on my own side, a one-man army. Being poor is easier when you're young and healthy, as I was, and hopefully you get not-poor later when your body can't work 65 hours a week anymore.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 2 жыл бұрын
I'm straight as an arrow, but I came out to my parents anyway, as gay, out of solidarity. I let them figure out that I'm not actually gay later, as I dated.
@bravoalley228
@bravoalley228 2 жыл бұрын
🤣..
@dr.wolfstar1765
@dr.wolfstar1765 2 жыл бұрын
This is what is wrong with society
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.wolfstar1765 I did it many decades ago, dude.
@bravoalley228
@bravoalley228 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.wolfstar1765 what's wrong?
@Cannabonsai
@Cannabonsai 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Mike
@jukesters123
@jukesters123 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo Mike. I am happy the world is changing.
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