From Korea’s Figure Skating "IT GIRL" To SUSPENDED From Attending Next Olympics

[@StephanieSoo]

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[@priv.0808]

Please look into the court case of gloria trevi. Biggest and saddest case. 40 girls abused in so many ways by a big time producer and it only recently came to light and the case will be shown on Univision. One of the victims came out with a book about what happened and it isn’t allowed in America because someone in power has lots of money. Gloria Trevi abused girls with her producer.

[@r.majeni1702]

Triple Axel's are 3.5 spins not 3

[@phil20_20]

Have you done a story on all of these adoption lawsuits going on all over the World? From the post war on...

[@mbiew]

No caption?

[@hengjohnson]

how come your nose look so green

[@duskripper6650]

This all feels very hypocritical considering the way men are treated by south korean institutions when they've done similar (or FAR worse) things.

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@duskripper6650 consider their age gap, his age, and the Korean law of age of consent.

[@duskripper6650]

@@triplea_qgb1963 I have.

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@duskripper6650 then I don't understand how you don't see the problem. A minor below the age of consent is involved here. The older person broke many rules.

[@yeahyeahyeah3724]

Frrrr like the criminas involved in the Burning Sun are out, just served a very short sentence, enjoying their lives now....

[@duskripper6650]

@@triplea_qgb1963 go have a look at the way Korean men are treated when they've committed far worse acts.

[@Annie640]

He’s probably just saying he was uncomfortable because his agency is telling him to. He won’t get punished as much if she’s thrown under the bus.

[@dazzlinglights5958]

Exactly

[@oneoneonemoononeoneone]

I agree. I'm with the girl on this one

[@katlia5681]

that guy probably is the one reported it or probably set her up.

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@katlia5681 he did not report her. Federation demanded a reason why he had a hickey on his neck. A coach saw it and that's why there's a SA case.

[@BubblegumFunk]

One hundred percent

[@catherinethecatlike]

The costumes! I frickin LOVE how whenever Yuzuru Hanyu unzipped his jacked to unveil his costume and the crowd would go insane screaming and clapping. He literally has the most gorgeous, elegant, flattering costumes that matched his elegance and grace on the ice.

[@kuilaychua6265]

@catherinethecatlike - I guess you are a fanyu! Greetings from Brunei fanyu😊 You are right, Yuzu has so many gorgeous costumes - purple one for Origin version 2.0 etc❤ I missed the Autumn Classic International (ACI) competition, that's when Yuzu usually reveal his new costumes for the grand Prix season😢

[@KhushMishra]

OMG yes!!!! I just love him he is like a gorgeous being who has descended on a winter night to dance for spring to come it's so ethereal.

[@kuilaychua6265]

@@KhushMishra Wow! another fanyu😜 I wonder how many fanyus are watching Stephanie's Hae In Lee and You Young suspension case? I like Hae in Lee but I think her skating career is in jeopardy now😔 Yuzu has too many iconic programmes some of which really touch me.I normally watch them repeatedly when I feel sad. Gala performances like Hari Yo Koi ( spring comes), One summer's day, Notte Stellata ( the details that Yuzu paid to skating like a swan with his finger tips, arms) are soul healing performances! I am so glad that he is still regarded as a great performing artist even after turning pro! His skating ( so feather light, flowy, mesmerising etc)and jumping skills are top notch👍 Yuzu, you have inspired me so much and will always be my GOAT in figure skating🥰

[@murielsicot1048]

🎉

[@catherinethecatlike]

@@KhushMishra this is the most accurate description I’ve ever read! He absolutely is! An ice prince who makes flowers bloom ❄️ 🌸

[@MaryamAhmed-on9hu]

The Feradation is 100% at fault. Why was this made public?!!!. What a nothing burger of a case , this should have been handled internally.

[@allier1867]

I think its self sabotage(referring to the fed) these are top atheletes. And they just suspended them for multiple years. And i agree its true. Its a very complicated situation...

[@yangduran1663]

I think the fed's handling of the case affected athlete C more negatively (socially and mentally) than the hickey ever did.

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@yangduran1663 they could’ve done better yes but the skater A herself specifically showed private text messages to the media AND revealed his age. The federation tried to protect his identity by not revealing his age or the age gap. She made it impossible for people to not identify him as there were only a few junior men at that training camp. People have been bullying and attacking him from the start to now. KSU did not name any of the skaters in the initial report. C losing his protection and safety is due to A outing his age.

[@yangduran1663]

@@AnnaS-g8x They jumped to giving her the pedo-assaulter nickname which made her want to defend herself (or probably self exit). The feds didn't even confiscated her phone or block her communication with the victim. She was still able to get info from the guy through chat.

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@yangduran1663 idk if they can just confiscate A’s device. She’s not charged for any crime so it’s not like they can do that to her. But skater B situation involves her phone so I assume the fed does know something about the photo. I understand A wanted to defend herself but it is still wrong like this way. It’s inevitable that people will attack her because the age gap is inappropriate. She’s not a criminal and I won’t call her a predator, but it’s still a disturbing relationship. A wanted to marry and have kids with a child below the age of consent.. Ick honestly. Technically, the fed wasn’t wrong if you consider that based on age of consent law, it can be considered assault on a minor.

[@Lostmyluckyshoes252]

Okay, so how many cases of SA and other horrific abuses have you covered where the person ended up with like 8 months in prison and right back to normal life? Meanwhile, her career is over. We really need to find a balance - appropriate sentencing for crimes. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

[@tin.sindiong]

this!!!

[@may.k_me]

This too

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@Lostmyluckyshoes252 consider the Korean law of age of consent for this situation.

[@felixdaberenachi]

​@@triplea_qgb1963we've had minor cases too no?

[@Roboss_Is_Alive]

Evgenia coming second broke my heart

[@Kookliet_and_jimeo]

Let me tell you , im iranian and one of our female Olympian won bronze medal in teakwondo then she demanded to be accepted in top medical school without taking entrance exam 😂😂😂so moms were like you wanna be doctor you gatta take teakwondo classes from now on( her request wasnt accepted btw)

[@azade1477]

I'm from iran too.😊i know its crazy but i think she won't be accepted in the medical school.

[@dani.d.d.f]

Well she tried lol 😂 😅

[@sara_1682]

She was like: “i might as well try”😂

[@bridgetteteapp]

😂😂

[@Kilasi123]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@OpposumParty87]

I WAS JUST GOING TO START FOLDING LAUNDRY HOW DID YOU KNOW I NEEDED YOU STEPHANIE❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@lauraostertag2429]

Same, I was going to start some homework but came looking for her first. I think I can’t survive without her.

[@jesystar]

Same!!

[@inayahjordon1031]

I'm washing dishes lol

[@marinaandersen4462]

Omgg me too, I also have to fold my laundry 😅😅😅😅

[@JinChanDanger]

The crazier thing is I’m also about to fold my laundry!!

[@kamilia9926]

As an iceskater, thank you for doing a ice skating subject! You should cover the 2022 olympics and the 2018 olympics figure skating dramas, the tea is hoooot

[@stannwjnstwiceandgidle]

Iceskating is so cool!!!

[@louRats]

Zhenya and Alina drama was smt

[@atran071]

And cover the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan situation since many people might not have access to the websites to watch the movie.

[@medvedevabot]

@@louRats 100%

[@wayesey]

God, the breakdown of the Russians was so freaking messy. Poor Anna, Sasha and Kamila

[@ayshanusrat3509]

So, for a hickey and a questionable accusation the authority can ruin a female athlete's whole life but a serial rapist and abuser gets just 3 years prison time which can be shortened by good behaviour? How hypocritical a society can be, disgusting

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@ayshanusrat3509 this is a competition suspension based on her breaking federation rules, not a prison sentence.

[@ayshanusrat3509]

@@AnnaS-g8x oh really? You think only prison sentence can destroy a life?

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@ayshanusrat3509 she deserves to be suspended since she broke her skating federation’s rules. Every skating federation has rules like this. Even USFS went and suspended skaters (ie. Brendan Kerry) before. Also this is not just about her life, but also the 15 year old boy’s life.

[@AltAlt-h3l]

​@@AnnaS-g8x💀this is gonna sound bad but not all 15 year olds are naive boys. Back in middle school we had a gang of 15 year old boys passing around innapropriate photos and videos of their girlfriends and random girls in group chats. They got away with it because the dude's dad owns literally half the properties in town.

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@AltAlt-h3lin Korea, 15 year olds cannot legally consent to 19 year olds. This is the law. The federation found out because the coach caught C with the hickey and reported it. This kid never even wanted her punished. Figure skating community has tons of these abuse/assault cases and it’s actually a good thing that the Korean fed wanted to do something about it. The ksoc dismissed her retrial because of his age.

[@Mist.3]

Yeah, unfortunately if it was a guy this wouldn’t even be an issue. And not just in Korea. Just in the most recent Olympics a dutch convicted child rapist was allowed to complete again.

[@4bbb711]

i agree gender discrimination is realll

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@Mist.3 there’s a legal loophole that allowed the Dutch man to compete unfortunately. Both the female victim and this 15 year old Korean boy were below the age of consent. I think it would absolutely be an issue if a 19 year old man brought a 15 year old girl to his room and began a sexual relationship with her even if she wanted it. Imagine the public scrutiny.

[@linaaaglaz]

@@AnnaS-g8x calling a hickey « sexual relationships » is very manipulative

[@Alexandra_Wolf]

I was shocked someone who flew to meet a child everyone asked on the streets in his country where like "he served his time let it go! He's rehabilitated" where in the U.S. we have a VERY different approach to anyone who engages in grooming and assaulting a teenager as a full blowing 20 year old man. Really shows how different we see and how different the prison systems are and THE FOCUS of rehabilitation and lack of rehabilitation is in the U.S. and that they just trust he's not longer a creep since he did like a few weeks at max! It's wild.

[@AnnaS-g8x]

⁠@@linaaaglazdepends on your country. In Canada, kissing is considered a sexual act by law.

[@RLStine13]

bruh the video of the woman doing the back flip literally made all my hair stand on end, sooooo cool! she's a badass

[@kristinab3838]

@@RLStine13 that's Surya Bonaly and doing that back flip in the Olympics made her hundreds of thousands of dollars from skating shows. This was the same Olympics Tonya Harding's Husband put a hit out on Nancy Kerrigan's knee, so this was when the most people were watching figure skating and when it was the most popular.

[@DanielMartinez-vi1ms]

@@kristinab3838 no it wasnt??? Surya jumped the backflip in nagano and tonya competed in lillihammer in 94.

[@alperry02]

Surya Bonaly was amazing!

[@RLStine13]

@@kristinab3838 thank you for telling me her name!

[@kristinab3838]

@DanielMartinez-vi1ms you're right. I knew it was her last Olympics and totally blocked Nagano.

[@tarachantarachota-jory]

As a skater, I was so excited for this ep! Also: Backflip is no longer banned & when Stephanie mentioned the Triple Axel and how difficult it is, now a Quad Axel has been done by Ilia Malinin (4.5 rotations in the air, which is just crazy)

[@lollylolly8186]

That man made it look easy!!

[@Mylife-clueless]

The backflip isn't banned anymore?! That's crazy

[@skzmixxxx]

omg i didnt know the backflip was no longer banned??? i rlly need to catch up on whats going on in figure skating lmao

[@LaLa-pz6ih]

Why is it no longer banned? I think it is really dangerous, or at least I find it super scary. 😳

[@alenamargarita]

no longer banned but still a deduction

[@muccycloud]

I think the way this was publicised so quickly and obviously by the federation is so messy, its ended with so much extra traumatisation for everyone involed like whatever the "truth" is in this and whatever punishment was given it did not need to be publicised straight off like that in a way where everyone could be identified

[@lizzylemonade320]

Agreed, the age gap is weird but the messiest party in this saga is the federation... if things were handled more discreetly, I doubt it would have gotten as murky as it did

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@muccycloud she herself mentioned his age. She gave extra piece of information that made it easy for people to identify the child. The media is not good either for allowing this to happen.

[@mon4711]

Yeah, considering South Korea is so careful of protecting identities of even those who commit atrocious crimes, the way this is handled is so wrong and blown out of proportion.

[@michelleobrien6996]

I'm baffled as to why they did that. I would expect them to hush up any issue of misconduct because it reflects badly on the reputation of the sport and of the organisers of the event. Isnt reputation everything? So baffling!!

[@piya6929]

​@@mon4711 it's weird cause they ordinary people's identity ys definable protected in sk even for heinous crimes but you might notice that for public figures that is ofyen not the case...even recent drug use amd other cases where celebs were being investigated their names got leaked quickly...if it was a normal person that would never happen

[@Kittysniffles888]

Figure skater here - YOU ARE SO ON POINT WITH EVERYTHING 23:01 SO FAR about training, spinning, ice temps, etc. NICE job!

[@four5891]

The minor's parents didn't want their son to get punished but were completely fine assassinating the character and career of a teenager. From their text messages, he asked Haein to do a hickey mark and that was it. His attorney literally stated that what the minor said in the initial investigation was misleading and that he never claimed to feel uncomfortable. Why in the world are they not reinvestigating this? The age gap between him and Haein is weird but they were both minors when they started dating. They're both immature teenagers, and the KSU essentially ending Haein's whole career over juvenile behavior is outrageous.

[@HelTra91]

It was juvenile behaviour done by an adult to a minor. If there is one thing we have learned from this channel it's that the justice system in Korea is extremely harsh on females and lenient on males. They smelled a scandal and went for it. Whether she is innocent or not, she chose to do this in a country where she will always be labelled as guilty.

[@semideadnat]

Can we also not forget that minors cannot consent? Sure they were dating when they were still minors but the teenager isn't a teenager anymore, she's 19. Which in many places is an adult. I don't know when they started dating but it doesn't matter when it comes to engaging in sexual acts.

[@naldo3008]

It's the Korean system son's can do no wrong so let's blame the daughter's 😢😢

[@graceclover8697]

@@semideadnatage of consent is 16 in korea an most states of america, so yes minors can consent but the age limit is max 3 years older but in this case he was 15 correct so that doesn’t apply and she’s a weirdo

[@triplea_qgb1963]

But can he legally consent by law? No. This is why the federation and ksoc stood by the suspensions. Also , he didn't consent to having those leaked text messages revealed. He's a kid and deserves to be protected. Remember that.

[@miso1674]

KSU just wrecked two of their top skaters, and they don't even care to properly investigate. The statement from the minor's attorney totally changes the viewpoint of the case, but Haein's entire skating career ending over something that might've just been immature teenage behavior doesn't matter at all to them. Also, why the heck did KSU punish You Young? Haein stated that Young never took any picture and the minor never received any photo from her either. If they want to suspend her for drinking alcohol then I get it but for an entire year? A one year suspension only for drinking is overly harsh and excessive. KSU completely dropped the ball on this.

[@triplea_qgb1963]

No, it actually doesn't matter. If it's statutory, then tt's about did anything sexual happen between them and how much older she is than him. And also if he can even legally consent at all. I think as a fed, you can't allow an adult skater or athlete to just bring a minor below the age of consent to your room. Not to mention initiate a sexual relationship with the kid. There's likely a photo. B once said it's not explicit and she didn't show it to anyone. Idk why A is trying to say that it didn't exist. There's something and the fed took action.

[@stardoll1995]

​@@triplea_qgb1963agreed to all of this the age gap might mot seem big BUT AT THOSE AGES it is massive you're talking about a 2nd year university student and a 2nd year HIGH SCHOOL student max

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@stardoll1995 it literally doesn’t matter if he stayed or left the room. Heck, he could be smiling in joy from all of it and she would still be held responsible. So long as their age gap is deemed illegal, then this is not in her favour.

[@jheartslax]

I hope they sue!

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@jheartslax well, this is case was accepted by the civil court. So technically, skater A is trying to overturn the suspension.

[@sitinurjannasiti8670]

You need to cover Russian ice skating drama because girl the tea is chef kiss

[@no.one.two.]

This🔥

[@medvedevabot]

RIGHT!! TEAM TUTBERIDZE COULD TAKE A FULL 2 HR VID JUST FOR ITSELF

[@sandisa8839]

Rightt like I kept waiting for for her to mention Alexandra trusova

[@user-qi5mk4kv7l]

oh yes, there’s so much to uncover

[@r.majeni1702]

​@@sandisa8839 *Alexandra ignatov 🤭

[@emiomg_]

i CANNOT get over how cute the intro is!!

[@Playsinthedirt]

Same! Love the panda everywhere!!

[@ItisJasmine27]

Same!!

[@Uaguaa]

Frrr so adorable

[@frisSerenity]

Someone didn’t like it hahah I’m glad there are more of us who love it! 😊

[@Ichiko_Sakurato]

AIRI PFP SPOTTED!!

[@OptimismNinja]

The black skater who did the back flip and landed on one foot is Surya Bonaly. SUCH an incredible athlete - she really wasn’t given the recognition she deserved in the sport! I used to skate and still miss it.

[@aprilbrunson5061]

She was the reason I started to watch Figure skaters… They treated her terribly for being black… Seriously, they talked about her like she was an animal , as they do about powerful "black" Athletes. Specifically black women powerful Athletes. Anti blackness is a thing even if it’s not blatant. Racism sucks.. 😭

[@konflavia]

The sad part is knowing Sk If the boy was the agressor, he won't be discipled this much. Again i feel bad for the boy but this is her whole life.

[@4bbb711]

yes if it was the other way around, it will be covered up per usual in sk. such sick country

[@snowfall-love]

it’s his life too. this will affect him for the rest of his life.

[@angelinalion2985]

​@@snowfall-love no. He is a man in South Korea.

[@snowfall-love]

@@angelinalion2985 i meant mental health wise since the consent was questionable

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@angelinalion2985 he is a 15 year old male child. Have some consideration for his youth would you? He's physically, mentally and legally a child.

[@victoriaarce9922]

This is the point where I thank Yuri on Ice for my limited but at least comprehensive information about figure skating. And they said Anime didn't teach me anything 🤣

[@MaGpeS]

Haha, I was thinking the same. I was listening to the episode and thinking at the same time that I wanted to rewatch Yuri On Ice.

[@PrincessBibliophile]

Me too 😁 I watched it to get to know the basics 🤭

[@空がきれい-i2e]

And I was thinking mappa is so bad to not let us see our yuri 😢

[@dana_0612]

​@@空がきれい-i2e true, let Yuri have his Gold medal, damnit😢😂

[@zezeelise9261]

YOI MENTIONED

[@airgelaal]

Figure skating is a special subculture, where in pair skating and ice dancing a big age gap is considered normal. Guys at 23, for example, can be considered juniors. Also, the video correctly explained how much time skaters spend on the ice since childhood, so a skater can have much more in common with a colleague who is several years younger than with a classmate. Therefore, it is not so easy to judge this situation using the criteria of ordinary life.

[@triplea_qgb1963]

Still not an excuse for such behavior. Just because the culture is like that doesn't mean any adult should act on it. Laws and rules are in place to protect minors for a reason. Especially minors below the age of 16. Even if a 23 year old can skate in juniors, legally he or she is an adult. Anyone would be mad if a 23 year old went after a kid below the age of consent right?

[@mxrlss]

23 and 16 isn’t the age gap or the situation we’re talking about here

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@mxrlss 19 and 15 is not legal in Korea. And 19 year olds shouldn't be dating or engaging in sexual acts with a child below the age of consent anyway. Just because the skaters mingle together doesn't mean it's okay for the adult skater to initiate a relationship that's illegal by law.

[@remainseated9349]

This is a horrifying take...the LAW is the LAW there's no justification for what she did...15 and 19 is unacceptable and ILLEGAL and straight up morally wrong...

[@Claudia-hd6bx]

He was 15!! It’s child molestation whether it’s ’normal’ for them or not

[@Nani-df2zo]

I’m a figure skater myself and was so shocked by the drama, I’m so glad you’re covering this case!

[@louRats]

Same lol I only really keep up with Russian and American skating 😭

[@nick12_dl]

as a figure skater, and a huge figure skating fan, this whole situation is so messy and devistating and thank you for covering it. i met and got pictures with skater a and b last year during international competitions, and reading about this a couple months ago hurt for sure. its nice to see someone with your platform talk about this, because i honestly thought no one would cover it

[@eunhaelee7636]

former figure skater here - started skating at the age of 3 and stopped when covid hit when i was like in my first year of uni lol some things to note: 1 - Koreans were really hyped last olympics bc cha junhwan placed 5th which practically means hes gonna podium at least this upcoming year since a lot of the top dogs are retiring 3- A big reason why skaters start so young (esp girls) is bc of puberty. your entire centre of gravity changes and you basically have to relearn all your jumps and spins once you go through puberty (bc you got these bags of fat on ur chest now and wider hips) A girl I skated with went from consistently getting gold to literally not even podiuming bc she lost all her jumps and spins 3 - fun fact a lot of figure skaters (myself included) have gotten concussions from falling /that/ hard on ur butt. my tailbone has been brusied at least 4 times at this point and hurts every time it's about to rain or my period is around the corner lol 4 - this is a CONSTANT misconception but a triple axel is 3 and a half rotations. A single axel is 1 and a half, a double is two and a half and a triple is three and a half. 5 - also a big part of figure skating is genetics and body build. yuzuru hanyu (the GOAT) has perfect body proportions for a figure skater which is why he 1) is the GOAT and 2) can almost doa quad axel which has been previously said to be impossible by physicists. narrow shoulders, narrow hips and overall slender build = you go fast in spins both in the air and on ice. (another fun fact: he's actually considered to be a bit too tall to be a single skater at 177cm in height bc at that point they throw boys into ice dance) I often sometimes look at people and think "they have the perfect build for figure skating - case in point Jimin from BTS lol) 6 - another fun fact: a lot of skaters will refuse to wear white dresses bc they want to stand out on the ice. myself included.

[@sheniovaller4601]

The dedication iceskaters have to the sport is actually inspirational. Its crazy how much goes into the practice, the outfits, the everything

[@SpringWinds-ge3tc]

The minor skater's attorney explicitly said that the minor's statement was misleading: 1) minor said that he didn't think Haein committed any crime, 2) he never felt offended by Haein's supposed actions, 3) he didn't want Haein to be punished. Whether this would change the outcome of the case is unclear, but the fact that the KSU aren't even doing a retrial when all of this has surfaced is incredibly irresponsible and even more dubious with the same institution that denied Haein's appeal being criticized for corruption in the badminton world. This isn't even mentioning how they penalized Young for allegedly taking an inappropriate photo of Haein when Haein said she didn't do any of that and even made a petition 🙄

[@user-kx5en8dg7u]

if this was from the perspective of a male adult skater and female minor skater, would you have the same opinion? plenty of victims do not want the people who preyed on them to be punished. that doesn't mean they should just get off scot free. he's defending her because she groomed him...

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@user-kx5en8dg7u if they do not suspend her, it will be bad. Can you imagine if a 19 year old man went after a 13 year old girl next time and used the excuse that she wanted it? And if what they did was worse than this case?

[@jheartslax]

factor in the skater c entered the girls dorm, he made that decision. No one dragged him in. I 1000% feel like his parents got involved to change the narrative so he doesn't get punished

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@jheartslax well, in the end the courts are handling this case. Skater A shouldn't have invited him to her room and he shouldn't have gone there. Doesn't change the fact that she does need to bear some punishment for breaking rules. She shouldn't get away with it either.

[@loen2629]

​@triplea_qgb1963 well, but it was not the case. They dated when they were both minors, he was 15 almost 16 (korean age of consent), she was freshly 19(age of adult in korea). Not 13 and 19, why are you suddenly twisting the age? There is nuance to this. I personally also wouldn't be upset if a guy dated a girl when they were both minors and then he turned of age and is still dating them. Of course, the question still remains if he actually was uncomfortable with the hickey, ans if he was then I don't condone the actions of the girl, but the age gap doesn't matter here because no matter how old you are you shouldn't do sexual things to a person that makes them feel uncomfortable.

[@FeloniousAngel]

That's unfortunate... Interesting that her ban lasts until he is a legal adult, so presumably he can't even speak for himself until then. That feels like sabotage on the part of "Skater C's" parents.

[@triplea_qgb1963]

3 years is the maximum the federation could give her. This is likely because of their age gap and his age.

[@nnnn-sc2im]

too bad it’s her fault for going after a 15 year old when she’s 19

[@saraxluna9280]

@@nnnn-sc2im I mean they were already dating when she was 17, why does it suddenly become weird when she turns 18? The age gap between them is exactly the same as it was back then

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@saraxluna9280 it was on and off dating. They broke up a few months before and then she asked him out again at the training camp. She became a legal adult and he was below the age of consent. At this point, any activity that is "sexual" would've been illegal and they were caught.

[@Atinywithsocailanxiety]

​@saraxluna9280 which means she at 17 was dating a thirteen year old when I was 17 13 was too damn young I'm about to graduate and they ain't even in high-school it's wrong

[@tryingtothrive157]

The context of things makes it terrible. The Burning Sun crime had too short a punishment for the convicted. And here we have a fumbled communication strategy for a 19 year old giving a hickey; this could have been settled within parties involved without publicity just like other sensitive cases involving minors. Not everything needs to be on TV and online especially active investigations or cases that involve minors.

[@ideapuffer]

‼️This is coming from NO PROFESSIONAL and is JUST AN OPINION‼️ From the conversation (text messages), it seems like Haein is emotionally and socially underage. Prolly coz she's only ever been focused on figure skating? Again, this is just me empathizing.

[@simplincy]

Yeah, she just got out of underage limit for a month. Technically she's being an "adult" for only a month, so clearly still need a lot of learning of responsibility. I am shocked that her punishment is that severe. Sure she broke the rule, but to get her career (and life) destroyed over this; personally i think it's too much.

[@Whydoisuddenlyneedahandlewtf]

Definitely. She probably grew up in a very small bubble and didn’t develop much socially. Why else would she want to date a 15 year old boy?

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@ideapuffer as a legal adult, she should know better. The minor is a child and she is not. He is actually physically, mentally, and legally a child. She is not. Why does his youth not matter? Why shouldn’t his youth carry more importance than hers? And why did she keep saying she’s the adult in the relationship? She knows she did something wrong and was panicking.

[@Alexandra_Wolf]

100000 percent. A lot of ballet dancers and these child prodigies are emotionally immature. Because it's school and sports and keeping them young in body and mind.

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@Whydoisuddenlyneedahandlewtf she shouldn’t be dating a child who can’t legally consent in the first place.

[@KristinasValley]

I was talking to my husband about this the other day on how idk how I would feel if they had been dating prior and it wasn't an issue they would imagine if they didn't break up it would still be an issue. I don't think she deserves the abuser label. You've covered cases where people have done actual acts of violence and when I first read the press release I thought it was much worse which already started a narrative of her being an evil person and not a slightly older child that made a mistake.

[@luskaneseprince]

@@AnnaS-g8x I don't think it would be any different if it was a man kissing an underage girl he had dated while they both were minors. Problematic and possibly gross, telling us a lot about her/his character? Sure. But not worth this much publicity and punishment, when you take all things into account. I don't even know if it counts as a sexual act, but I admit I don't know how that is defined, exactly. I genuinely don't know what you mean by "physically looking like an 8 year old", though, because I would argue that's subjective. She might have looked very young for her age too, no? Or thought that he looked older than his other male peers? Korean kids definitely look younger to me than European kids of the same age, and all kids look very young when you look at them as an adult, but that's not how Korean teenagers themselves necessarily feel, so I don't think that should play a role in how we view the issue. Again, not saying she shouldn't receive any punishment, but this still does seem excessive, regardless of her gender.

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@luskaneseprince I’ve seen some Koreans describe his appearance as an ‘elementary school student’. She looked like any 17 year old at 17. Skating fans know who he is because A confirmed his age (likely without his consent), and it just makes it even worse. It’s actually one of the reasons why some fans speculated grooming because it’s truly very disturbing and inappropriate. This relationship is just so gross… I know people are supporting her because she said they were both minors, but he was 13 and she was 17. He was in middle school… I’ve also seen some Koreans call the relationship as ‘Lolita’. Just disturbing overall.

[@Kudos268]

Thank you for talking about Surya Bonaly! The judges were never fair to her, so she did the backflip anyway. What a boss!

[@junglesuperstar9270]

After failing her jumps . Of course the judges were the problem

[@jessicablair5610]

HOW is she pumping all this content out? This team are my heroes!

[@fianiii2652]

All the talk about the sportmanship and artistry of figure skating reminded me of Yuzuru Hanyu. He's like the male version of Kim Yuna in terms of popularity and lore. He's retired from competing but still performs on ice. I hope steph can cover his story in the future. Great video as always!

[@icecream629]

I feel like people are treating her more harshly than men who have committed more heinous SA…

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@icecream629 because there is a 15 year old child here. Why wouldn’t people be harsh with her?

[@savanahbabyyyy]

As they should! What the heck is wrong with the people here excusing female child molesters? Maybe some you guys are female child molesters too in the comments

[@FOHaab]

You're sick.

[@Atinywithsocailanxiety]

3 month suspension is to harsh for preying on a kid? I wouldn't call it harsh

[@savanahbabyyyy]

@@Atinywithsocailanxiety 3 years. It's not harsh either. Because if they let her keep going she'll become a full blown Pedo hiding behind the mask of a pretty girl. She's using her attractiveness to lure the little boy and she might do this to even more innocent little boys who like pretty girls.

[@vectorthigma3780]

GIRLLLLLLLLL!!! i just got back from celebrating my friend’s birthday and you came in clutch with me needing to clear my room up. a lifesaver!!

[@minxilly1575]

I think there's nuisance needed. This country is the same one that literally let someone walk after 4-5 year sentence after disembowelment of a child through SA. This girl gave a hickey to her ex who she almost got back together with. She was a child herself a month ago, he kissed her after the hickey. I'm firmly saying this, age gap is ew but his statement sounds more like something written by his a agency and parents to get out of this without issue. I'll say it. I think the age gap is yukhy, I hate it but legally they were both minors a month before this. Exes as well.

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@minxilly1575 it's still an age inappropriate relationship. 15 and 19 is not legal in Korea. A 17 year old shouldn't be dating a 13 year old. SA doesn't have to be extremely gruesome to be SA. Even just groping or kissing someone against their will can leave trauma.

[@misaoshikhun2460]

It's nuance not nuisance. 👀 sorry for being the grammar patrol.

[@daria841]

South Korean law nauseates me.... men get a slap on the wrist for crimes.... if you're drunk, that a mitigating factor 😮😮😮 wtf. The way these parents protect their sons. 😢😢 do they even have have daughters????

[@mxrlss]

@@triplea_qgb1963in Korean culture if ur parent are okay with It around that much of an age gap actually isn’t considered illegal , although some may find it weird . However if both parties want to date unless their parent (which in this case they did) oppose them being together nothing can really happen to the older person

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@mxrlss my understanding is that the parents didn't know they got back together. She told him to keep it a secret. The boy was caught with the hickey and it was reported to the federation which demanded an explanation. The kid never reported her for assault. There was evidence that sexual contact took place and their age gap makes this a problem. His parents have a right to be concerned as it's technically not legal.

[@bitchimshook3224]

stephanie we NEED u to talk about russian figure skating, eteri tutberidze, and what happened in women’s figure skating winter 2022 olympics bc it was crazyyyy drama and the way those girls are mistreated is insane ! we need a video about it

[@Mylife-clueless]

Also the 2018 olympics and team tutbridze in general, their golden girls, and all the next ones and whatever the fck is happening with them now😭

[@JaneAhlstrand]

Yeah they are the reason for the so-called curse.

[@zonedutopia]

YEA YES YES

[@catherinethecatlike]

Especially Kamila. That was such a shitshow.

[@Linda-fs4ds]

I personally wouldn’t wanna hear anything about the terrorist country on this channel, there are already enough videos about that incident on KZbin.

[@chew_1993]

When I was in high school a senior dating a freshman or sophomore wasn’t as creepy to me as it is now at 30. A 17-18 year old dating a 15-16 year old didn’t seem like that big of a deal at the time. But at that age 2 to 3 years is pretty significant developmentally. It’s easy for an 18 year old to manipulate a 15 year old into doing things they maybe wouldn’t do otherwise.

[@originalpoosing]

@Stephanie... Surya Varuna Claudine Bonaly (born 15 December 1973) is a French retired competitive figure skater. She is a three-time World silver medalist (1993-1995), a five-time European champion (1991-1995), the 1991 World Junior Champion, and a nine-time French national champion (1989-1997). ++++Despite earning the gold, she was never awarded gold on the world stage. Their was definitely racism when she was judged. Occasionally, announcers would comment on her "black body build" as if it wrong.. making her too athletic. She did amazing jumps and spins, at a highly technical skill level.

[@Uzma1110]

The intro fits their vibe so perfectly! Also Stephanie looks so cuteee!

[@RuthMcL1979]

My ex was an ice tech, one of the only things I admired in him. It’s sooo intricate!! Not only do they deal with different types of ice for different sports (ice skating, hockey, curling etc), but ice is different in different countries. We’re in Scotland at sea level, he wanted to go to Canada to work, cos they are so far above sea level, so salt isn’t then a factor. He qualified in Germany, worked in Italy for a while, came back to Scotland, all the ice was different. At one point, his took here had curling mon-fri morning, then ice skating fri-sun, again different types of ice. And then the rink would need to be cleared down to the concrete and then new ice made, a few times a year. It’s much more complicated than people realise. Great video, love listening to you!! Making muffin-size carrot cakes, whilst watching you xxx

[@aiya2323]

There is such a weird threshold when labeling someone a sexual harasser. She is not on the same category as ppl like harvey weinstein. She crossed her ex boyfriend’s boundaries, the same ppl who is calling her a “predator” are the same ppl who loves those forced kissed scenes in kdrama where male leads pushes the female lead to a wall and force kiss them. Im imagining this was the same situation. I dont even know why this is even such a big issue. Its not something to ruin this girls career over.

[@naldo3008]

K-dramas are full of dating violence and the problem is that kid's see this and think it's normal

[@маахамариам]

Not excusing, but they were dating prior , and it’s a hickey , she’s barely 19 , this is blown out of proportion

[@KnotApps]

The main problem is that he was a minor, and the age gap that's considered acceptable when minors and adults are in a relationship is 3 years (by law in most cases as far as I know. ) So basically a highschool freshman and senior wouldn't be a huge deal but a primary school kid with a high school senior would be weird, and this one was just crossing that line

[@triplea_qgb1963]

@@KnotApps the relationship began when he was a middle school student and she was in high school. Still not okay.

[@moondai97]

ALSO, people need to understand that if you ask for something sexual and ended up not liking it, it doesn't mean it's sexual harrassment.

[@junezchan]

Stephanie is so through with her research. As a person who knows this sport, I am so impressed at the small details you presents. That’s when you know everything Stephanie says is reliable. ❤

[@k8614g]

The squeaker detail was SUCH a random fact but it’s so useful! And funny 😅

[@marulamanzana]

As someone studying in fashion and that has been obsessed with figure skating, my dream is to make figure skating + theatre costumes!!!

[@blueclover9918]

Nancy Kerrigan wore Vera Wang costumes

[@QueenofSpade_]

Omg, wanna be bestie? Because that's my absolute dream and I'm also a fashion student! Never met someone who shared the same exact dream !

[@marulamanzana]

@@QueenofSpade_ oh my god yess!!

[@seal4683]

as a figure skater I got so excited seeing you talk abt figure skating🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻 please cover more of it especially the 2022 drama

[@alinastarkov9793]

Already listened to the episode over at Spotify but really needed the Energy of Stephanie and Stubby😊

[@liam3moonnnn]

As a figure skater, the fact ur covering this is so exciting because ur my fav. KZbinr! You should cover the 2018 and 2022 Olympics.

[@ErwinPayba-i6d]

She should just compete for the other country since she has been banned in korea, explore the opportunities around the world 😂😂😂😂

[@evs645]

other countries will not endorse her due to the scandal, it's bad PR for the country. Remember Olympic athletes are representative of the country

[@Curlsl]

@@evs645 other countries won't care. I'm 100% in my country (france) we won't care. Why ? because it's not a big gap in age, it's accepted. You can drink at 18, you can share a room in the hotels , no one will care, maybe if you're well known paparazzi will say something. But even if there are scandals it's not korea, sport is sport, everybody will forget about it. What's private stays behind closed doors generally. no consequences. teens will do that and young adults too, forbidden or not.

[@irondragonmaiden]

You need to have a residency or citizenship in a country to compete under the new country. It's why the Russian skaters couldn't compete this Olympics under other flags, because they don't have citizenship in other countries

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@evs645 some might actually accept her because she’s a top female figure skater. Actually, most feds would cover up sexual assault cases even if the victim is a child. Feds usually only care about winning medals which is why what ksu is doing is very good. They are actively trying to suspend skaters that did something wrong even if unintentional.

[@meme6314]

@@evs645 yet some countries still let rapists compete (especially in football but this year there was a rapist in the olympics), i think that one could be overlooked by a lot of countries, you really overestimate the child protection sentiment around the world, in my country this scandal wouldn't even be talked about on the streets, that's why age gap laws are different around the world, it all depends on perspective, maybe only amercia would care tbh.

[@rizumuarmy111]

Just about to sleep but saw the notification and am immediately here...love your videos Stephanie ❤❤

[@AstinaLilith-yl7bu]

same

[@rougeneon1997]

Thats a tricky one. I still feel like none of their careers/lives/futures should be ruined over this.

[@Kaybye555]

What if it were a 19 year old man being inappropriate with a 15 year old girl?

[@danieltaylor1424]

​@@Kaybye555No reply...

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@Kaybye555 the man would be crucified by everyone. when skating fans see adult male pairs skaters train with female pair skaters who are clearly children, the men always get bashed and hated on.

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@rougeneon1997 if she really cared about her career, she shouldn’t be drinking, dating and getting sexual with a minor who can’t legally consent. She’s dumb but you have to pay for your actions in the end.

[@day-glo]

​@@AnnaS-g8x sure, but she was young too. ban her for 1 year, not 3.

[@zonedutopia]

Stephanie IF YOU NEED CONTENT i beg you get into figure skating dramas, you'll have 100 hours of material - Zagitovs vs. Medvedeva drama alone will give you 2 part episode. And there's so much more - Yuna Kim vs Sotnikova Olympic Scandal, Valieva doping scandal, undying Tonya vs. Kerrigan story. We figure skating fans BEG YOU ❤❤

[@strawberrylime33]

Remember that awkward hug between alina and zhenya at the Team Red vs Team Blue event??😂😂😂

[@Justarandomgirl-ub8dz]

Yesss also the trusova sherbakova drama and literally anything involving Russians

[@jadespeculationstation]

3 years is a huge age gap at that age. 17 and 14??? come ON that is not okay... neither is 16 and 19...

[@triplea_qgb1963]

It's 3.5 years

[@Rayray-pw8wn]

Girl I’m obsessed with your videos honestly the best on KZbin

[@cyb3rstalker]

15 vs 19 and 17 vs 14..? is this korean age ? because if not idk if i’d go as far as to call her a pedo but that is a weird age gap.. me and my sister are 3 years apart and i could never see anyone her age as partner material.

[@khalil-wc4bs]

dramatic weirdo lol ...

[@purplebanshee]

No it's their real international age

[@triplea_qgb1963]

He was physically a child. He's way shorter than her and didn't go through puberty. She made a questionable choice as she was so attracted to a prepubescent kid. The relationship is really age inappropriate as it allegedly began when he was 13 and she was 17. Im not calling her any names here but this is really age inappropriate.

[@murakami1793]

@@khalil-wc4bsif it was a 19 yr old guy dating a 15 yr old you instantly know it was bad

[@khalil-wc4bs]

@@murakami1793 ofc , but most of the girls in these threads ignore the problem and virtue signal instead . some weirdos said that if a guy is younger than them by a month it's predatory . I don't know why they're going out of their way to signal this too much for ? that's weird .

[@teajam531]

I immediately thought about Stephanie, when I first heard about this story! It’s been crazy watching this story develop these past few months. Dropping everything to watch this!

[@lucyyy.e]

a few months ago quit skating after years because I no longer have time for it so I love to hear stephanie talk about it

[@MadChips202]

My older sister used to figure skate when she was in her teens but at one point she fell down and someone skated over part of her (I think her hand I can’t remember), she ended up losing nearly 2 litres of blood on the ice. She hasn’t been ice skating since. She’s fine now but she still has the scar from the blade and it’s been over 10 years.

[@huneyoo]

I never thought I'd see a Stephanie upload on a topic I've kept tabs on. Her athletic career, regardless of what happens, is fully over. I was a big fan of her skating. She has amazing potential to get top level, podium worthy, skating and its such a shame to see her career as a figure skater go down this way but there are consequences to your actions.

[@savanahbabyyyy]

She did this to herself. No one told her to be a pedophile and date kids. He looks 9

[@-noas-]

As a competitive figure skater, this episode made me so excited. The girl who did a backflip is Surya Bonaly! She is amazing and I would definitely recommend looking at some of her skating 😊 hearing about Haein was definitely a shock since she is a bigger name nowadays (even as a skater outside of South Korea)

[@miidnxghts]

2023 worlds really boosted both her and jun’s popularity which i think is what makes this scandal even bigger

[@monohina1997]

Stephanie mentioned how the backflip was illegal but Ilia added one to his program so are they legal now?

[@miidnxghts]

@@monohina1997 they are a legal now, yes!

[@N0S1LLAx]

As a figure skater, this is completely accurate when she talks about the sport. I have done martial arts, and dance. The training is pretty intense, a lot of time is put into the sport but the feeling of skating is amazing. When you’re on the ice, it’s an ethereal feeling.

[@j.oalonso8021]

Any time Stephanie uploads a new video, it feels like my favorite drama just dropped a new episode! I always watch, listen, and search up the things you talk about. You are the best storyteller i've ever heard. Thank you! 💙

[@ComplacentOtter]

I was in Olympic development for soccer in USA. You sign a contract just to be in the development program which is a team for each state. The contract requires a whole list of conduct rules that of course include no drinking, no drugs, excellent behavior befitting a representative of the country, etc etc etc. It's pretty serious even if some people don't take it seriously.

[@bacteria1337]

you know the carrot snacking got intense when your hands look more orange 😂 i love it 😅

[@dangokissu]

This was pretty tame, she’s had more orange-y hands before 😂

[@sourlimerick]

I’ve been wondering why her hands were so orange for a while now. I just assumed she films these after a mukbang or something lol

[@kaysmith5356]

​@@sourlimerick I was wondering too and discovered she actually did a video about it. Check it out.

[@malak.mosttafa]

I was crocheting something and very desperate for a new video I was shuffling through your old videos, thank you 🥹🤍

[@laffytaffy9782]

The fact I knew EXACTLY which american figure skater you got the quote from and the squeaker fact, I love love LOOOOOVE her!

[@sacredgear]

I feel like Kid C wasn’t uncomfortable. He just threw skater A under the bus to save himself

[@Leeknowsrightarm]

his agency or parents prolly told him to say that tbh

[@sacredgear]

@@Leeknowsrightarm 100%

[@gprasadbhat5761]

I too think the same thing but if that 19 year old was a boy and 15 year old was a girl people would probably not give 3 year punishment will they? Its just my thoughts

[@Leeknowsrightarm]

@@gprasadbhat5761 probably, but from what I've seen, even if it was the guy's fault, people don't give harsher sentences. in certain countries people may even argue that hey he's still young and has a bright future, being punished would tarnish his record

[@gprasadbhat5761]

@@Leeknowsrightarm yes I get it

[@raniemaharanie53]

I love how Stephanie use Kim Yuna Gold Medalist title not the Sochi Silver Medalist. Kim Yuna got robbed back then and still controversial till now.

[@junglesuperstar9270]

She was not . I knew she lost in the middle of her program. She did not perform at the same level . Lack of preparedness , not a great program etc . Korean fans just know little about figure skating and can’t admit it

[@28_futaba]

​@@junglesuperstar9270it's not just Koreans though

[@thecosmicfae6826]

Girl I cannot stop watching your videos I even have my husband HOOKEDDDD

[@marley9904]

Same here 😊

[@kalie4309]

same over here! he’ll join half way in and ask what happened

[@thecosmicfae6826]

@@kalie4309 LOL right ?!!! We usually have stuff on in the background, but we both sit there like 👁️👄👁️ we cannot look away

[@aceanarchy5554]

In America, their relationship is considered legal due to Romeo and Juliet law, which means if you begin to date someone while both of you were minors, if one becomes an adult and the other is still a minor the relationship is still considered completely lawful as you were both minors when it started

[@IsabellaVerandez]

It’s not all of the US. Some US states have Romeo and Juliet laws, some do not.

[@mxrlss]

Let’s also not forget the culture Around it . Although it’s legal here some people stray away from it due to others disdain on those big age gaps. But in Korea it isn’t deemed as weird as it might be in America

[@gabymidnightblu]

Yea but does it still count because skater A said they broke up for a year or so then started again when she was an adult

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@gabymidnightblu on and off dating… child at one point told her to stop contacting him iirc.

[@FOHaab]

It's like you're willfully forgetting that their relationship began when she was 17 and he was 13. I wonder if you'd be okay with your middle school aged child beginning a relationship with a high school senior. You're sick if you're ok with something like that. She was damn near an adult when she sought out a boy that was barely a teenager.

[@roses7989]

I love these gossipy juice stories over the violent disturbing videos. Please do more of these! ❤

[@hermi1-kenobi455]

She does more of these on Stephanie Soo. Rotten mango is the gory stuff iirc.

[@lilydavidson1598]

@@hermi1-kenobi455I think they mean post more of these she doesn’t post here as rotten rotten mango gets two pods a week

[@itwasmedionysus]

really? i got more mad at this one because it was so inaccurate. Her ones that discuss the most heinous crimes are easier because they're accurate, in-depth, and well-researched. This one was none of the three with the latter being the most egregious.

[@savanahbabyyyy]

@@itwasmedionysus Haein is a pedo end of story

[@andy_o.t.]

You should definitely do a case video on Tonya Harding, the beginning of her career, her home life, the peak in her career, and her eventual downfall and BAN from the Olympic committee for her rumored involvement in Nancy Kerrigan’s leg injury. Trust me, you’ll love it. It would mean the world if you saw this comment and maybe did a video on it😭🙏🏽

[@piya6929]

is this the real I, Tonya case??

[@andy_o.t.]

@@piya6929 Yes! The movie “I,Tonya” is based on the real life story of Tonya Harding.

[@shsl_empath5437]

3.5 years of a gap is gross at that age, that is the difference between my little sister and me. i have always seen my little sister as a baby, even now when im 20 and she is 17 (i am trying to get better at not treating her as if she is younger than she is, but i struggle with that bc she seems so young in my eyes). do i think that this figure skater deserves to have her entire career ruined? no, probably not. but is there any universe in which she shouldve ever been involved with the younger guy at this age? NO! It is one thing if they dated at 21 and 24 (for example), but any gap where one is 18 or younger is far too significant for me to ever see her as anything other than a creep.

[@7vt8td]

So if like for example two people started dating in their 15 and 17 Yr of age (2 age gap) then do they have to break up if the older one gets passed 18 Yr of age? I can't understand why you think anyone passed 18 is old well they now do have rights of being an adult but they just started entering adulthood, just a year before, they were still a teen. Moreover by your logic whatever the age of two people is as long as there is a age gap, it should be gross but then you state your last few sentences, I can't help but see the contradiction to your words. Also just because someone is the same age as your sister doesn't mean they are all gonna be like a lil sis to you, I can understand your sister's friend but all people having the same age as her?no man

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@7vt8tdyou have to check the close age gap exemptions exemptions in your country.

[@savanahbabyyyy]

@@7vt8td An 18 year old dating a 13 year old is nasty. No excuses

[@Lena-zn4re]

@@7vt8tdIt’s all relative to their actual ages, not the age gap between the two. A 2 year gap between a 17 and 19 year old is pretty much fine esp if they met as minors. But a 12 and 14 year old is not okay, even though they’re still 2 years apart. The same would apply for a 10 year age gap. No one would care if a 30 and 40 year old got together. But the same can’t be said for a 19 and 29 year old in a relationship.

[@winxyloo]

thank you for introducing people to FS drama, i don’t think people realize how crazy it gets 😭😭

[@Maisiemeow93]

Just got home from work and I'm SO excited to watch this ❤❤❤ Stephanie is always serving with looks and 🍵!

[@williamrobertson892]

So the reason why the backflip is banned isn't because it's dangerous, it was because you couldn't land it on one foot. That was why Surya Bonaly went all out and did the backflip on one foot. Her way of saying she was the best, even if they judges wouln't admit it.

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@williamrobertson892 i watched figure skating for years and it’s because it’s too dangerous. You can get concussions and serious head injuries from attempting backflips. Surya is an icon and experienced a lot of racism, but for this case it’s more about athlete safety. Now, they let skaters do backflips after Adam Siao did it at the last worlds. He still got deductions for it lol. It became very popular just like how skaters did cartwheels on ice.

[@williamrobertson892]

@@AnnaS-g8x I'm not trying to say that it isn't a dangerous stunt, it absolutely is. I am just saying the reason the ISU banned it was because they believed it couldn't be landed on one foot, and all landings need to be on one foot. If they banned it for danger to the athletes then they wouldn't of unbanned it for the 2024-2025 season imo.

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@williamrobertson892 I don’t think they banned it because of one foot. They just didn’t want anyone to even attempt a backflip whether it’s landed on one foot or two feet. It genuinely is dangerous but they decided to let it be used only recently because it’s popular now. They want to attract more viewers and fans.

[@hameedaphiri872]

At the end of the day, only one person will suffer the most and have their entire life ruined... over a hickey.

[@averagepenguin9034]

42:20 actually, figure skating fans absolutely knew it was haein because one of the news channels (sbs? or kbs?) released a "blurred" video of her when they announced the news. her costume was definitely identifiable even through the blur, so I think that haein probably felt compelled to release a statement

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@averagepenguin9034 we knew who the two female skaters were because they were the only senior women at the training camp. That’s why you are correct that she came out publicly because sooner or later, her identity will be announced. She still shouldn’t have outed the minor though by his age. That’s really awful behaviour from her.

[@amberruth4164]

I just warmed my food and refreshed so glad I did my comfort queen has uploaded :D

[@BS-jv4mc]

Stephanie always educating us on the koreaverse

[@melitahana9017]

Stephanie : dududedudu 🎶THERE IS A CURSE IN KOREA 😭😂 ( I’ve never been so early it feels illegal 🥲)

[@kristinab3838]

@@melitahana9017 if there was a curse, and it came from tiny Russian girls who may are may not have been on sugar pills😜.

[@Chvrrydoll]

It’s so cool to me to see my favorite KZbinr talk abt the sport i do. I literally NEVER hear anyone talk abt figure skating. BTW YOU SHOULD ALSO TALK ABT THE 2022 WINTER FIGURE SKATING OLYMPIC RUSSIAN DRAMA PLS

[@jasmine3912]

17 and 14 is weird ...

[@AayeshaZaidi]

was about to start writing notes for eco,,, now I have something to listen to in the background,,thankyou queennnn

[@lylyluvda916]

“It just looks like a woman’s world. So dangerous.” Dark comedy is not typically my thing but I chuckled before realizing, damn, it really does suck to be a woman.

[@maryshane5012]

omg pls cover the drama about the 2024 Olympic gold medalist Carlos Yulo. he basically won 2 gold medals in gymnastics, a first for the Philippines, and yet his success was overshadowed by his manipulative, attention-seeking mother that also stole her own son's prize money.

[@leezyleezzz8604]

That was crazy!! I heard his gf was the only one there for him too 😢

[@peerlesscucumber1896]

I ended up doing my own research about the Korean team and i came upon a group picture and i was shocked because “c” is a literal child, a fetus actually while “A” looks way more like his older sister . Honestly, if were his parents i would be very upset . Imo there was a huge power imbalance between them cause honestly 18-19 (though a teenager ) is still way MORE mentally mature than a literal 15- 16 year old. The punishments were fair if “c” was being coerced and felt uncomfortable but it’s also true that if it was the other way round esp in Korea, this wouldn’t be the outcome.

[@rosieposie8205]

exactly those were 2 adult women with minor boy in there room ?! Im sure they know what they were doing..feeling bad for the child 🙁 he didn’t deserve to be treated that way !!!

[@emanmohammed6415]

I just love the way Stephanie advertise like it's so smooth and worthy of listening, unlike other youtubers steph makes it fun .

[@charmcaster9099]

In my opinion, South korea is way too dramatic, and they should investigate completely before publishing these kind of articles. Also, if someone tries to call me an assaulter or something, I'll snap as well.

[@savanahbabyyyy]

So you like going after kids who can't consent and look 9 years and are super short as well? Two birds of a feather you and Haein

[@atinydiane]

Oh - and the Black skater you're talking about? You totally SHOULD tell her story: Surya Bonaly of France. She absolutely refused to get on the medal podium in 1994 when she was awarded silver because she was certain she deserved gold, then even TOOK HER MEDAL OFF too - which is SUCH a flex, but not everyone in the skating world appreciated it. That was the year she'd done a backflip like she was flipping the bird at the judges, knowing full well they weren't going to score her like she deserved because she was "too athletic" instead of graceful (she was SUCH a powerful jumper). Her (adoptive) mom was her coach, too (I remember hearing hints that her mom was controlling or abusive - but that was in the 90s and I also heard horrible things about Tonya Harding around the same time that turned out not to be true because skating is very very very elitist and classist and racist, so both Tonya (from a trailer park) and Suriya (Black) were Not Welcome).

[@itwasmedionysus]

fr i wanna know Surya's lore. the split leg was the essence of the double bird

[@misaoshikhun2460]

Athletes A and C are so sus. Athlete C seems to be in a legit relationship with A and has been subjected to so much external pressures to save his career.

[@AnnaS-g8x]

@@misaoshikhun2460 it’s not legit when its now illegal. Yes, he was pressured by his legal team and parents but A is still in the wrong by law.

[@morganking757]

Stephanie saying the part where the horses just dance was not on my 2024 bingo card 😂😂😂 that is Dressage baby girl! It’s insanely hard and expensive to be in 😅

[@supernovasona]

The national delusion in this was insane

[@rachymn7883]

I feel like they threw her under the bus

[@4bbb711]

i agree because if it was the other way around with a man doing the "sa", it would be kept under wraps coz they have to protect their future cr!min@ls so sad

[@NikolIvanova-o7l]

As a former figure skater of 13 years, how you're explaining the sport is the absolutely most heartwarming thing I've heard ♡♡♡

[@Stacyvrz]

If 3 years is too long of a punishment, 3 years is too much of an age gap

[@catherinethecatlike]

I kinda love when someone gets a gold for their country in the Olympics which then inspires every single parent to sign up their kids for that sport

[@strawberrystevo3164]

Ong. Yes. Needed this so bad. This is the inspiration I needed to clean. My biss steph coming in clutch! Love you.

[@iammyas]

Here I am laying in my bed with COVID and feeling miserable, and your video pops up. Thank u!

[@faithkosgey5481]

Get well soon 😊