From Packets To Multiplayer - Cosmic Reach Devlog

[@minus51]

I think it should be: I have this idea, this is why i want to add it, this is how i added it. Repeat type of deal

[@sirninjamonkey3950]

This is exactly what I was going to suggest

[@MorganSaph]

Agreed

[@Fa1seP0sitive]

Exactly. The game is still early in development, this is the best time to be experimental. With a sandbox game, it seems that a plan really isn't required early on once the groundwork has been done. Now its time to throw things at the wall and see what sticks. Later down the road, it'll be harder to add new major systems and especially difficult to remove well established features. Finding out what works and what doesn't can then be used to guide a more long-term plan for the future design and development of the game.

[@jdwg5]

Agreed, and don’t worry about staying on a theme! Just send it!

[@caloob_]

When it comes to the future of this devlog series, I'd love to continue to see these in-depth feature explanations, but maybe interchanged with occasional, smaller, relaxed videos explaining your thought process behind adding a block or item. Even discussing things you've thought about adding but haven't. I also think that using the community tab to talk about recent updates would do great to keep everyone in on what's going on with the game. Not everyone is on the Discord, so it's important for the KZbin audience to know what's going on. I think focusing on the game as its own product, rather than focusing on the devlogs, is exactly the right mindset going forward. Keep up the great work as always, and I'm wishing you the best of luck in making this game the way you want to make it.

[@caloob_]

Some more thoughts, I really enjoyed when you would look at comments from previous videos and answer questions about the game, or about a specific implementation you're using. I'd love to see those make a return at the end of future devlogs. Or maybe a dedicated QNA video? Something to think about :)

[@braydonfisher9273]

+1

[@Ahmet-jk7kc]

+1

[@thegolden3340]

Very well explained. +1

[@caloob_]

So glad to have contributed to the OST! Always exciting to see new devlogs, and I feel this one is gonna be a doozy.

[@AndreWharn]

wait, how did this work? i would love to also contribute as well with audio! i love so much how this project is taking form

[@caloob_]

@@AndreWharn Final sent me a DM after seeing my previous work and asked me if I’d like to contribute. There’s some links in the description to the community server you can join if you haven’t already 👀

[@AndreWharn]

@@caloob_ oh i am inside the server already, I'm guessing then I have to post my stuff among the millions and hope I have luck? i don't have much confidence I'll make it in any way if that's the case, but thanks for the reply :)

[@ZeroOneCentaurion]

I'm a programmer, so I'm really interested in the details behind all the work you've put in. However, I think the thought process is also very important to share; it's important to know how a thing works, but it's equally important to know _why_ it's being done that way, instead of an alternative solution. I imagine it might make these devlogs a bit larger and perhaps less frequent, but I think it's the better option.

[@JoeTheis]

When you said you were going for multiplayer, I assumed it would never happen, as thats where many indie dev projects go to die. I'm happy to admit that I was wrong! You're clearly a very talented developer. Good luck on future additions!

[@sirninjamonkey3950]

I am so glad to have been one of the first players to play multiplayer

[@AxolotlGuy7]

Same

[@sirninjamonkey3950]

@AxolotlGuy7 The spleaf match was crazy

[@TheEntropyShard]

Great devlog! Tbh, I would like to see both technical details and feature explanations, if it is not too overwhelming. Keep up the good work!

[@hugomazeas4297]

Same!

[@Wilker_uwu]

i agree. the process feels just as important as the technical aspects because then we also get to see the things that doesn't work, and it also has the underlying idea that people with programming knowledge can also get stuck on problems while also giving guides on specific problems to be stuck on.

[@oglothenerd]

I watched your first ever video when it was the only video on your channel, I am committed to watching all your videos now!

[@Chrythm]

wanted for make music for this game since I saw the first devlog :) I like a mix of the two video styles, some rationale for features that were added and some technical insight, it has something for all of us

[@dead-monstera]

The main thing I enjoy is seeing progress, both in content added to the game and the system design of the engine/game. I would be equally happy to listen to a straightforward presentation of "I added this new set of items to the game" as well as "Here is an explanation of my solution to a problem I spent a month on which doesn't have anything visual to show". By no means do you need to make a 20 minute video essay on every problem you solve, but a moderate amount of detail is nice. I would also be happy with just an overview of the problem/solution if it means I get to see it at all. Be sure to balance what the audience would like to see with the content which feels sustainable to produce. Everybody here will be happy to see whatever you put out

[@ClosestSun38]

I just did a KZbin watching marathon on your channel and I can say with confidence it was worth every minute! I'm so glad I came across your channel

[@Questerer]

FinalForEach I want to congratulate on where you brought the project. Keep on having fun with developing the game as much as possible. I do want to say that the game often feels very cold to me. That's why I sometimes have a problem playing it myself. I feel like a shift to warmer collors should work nicely.

[@themixedmaster]

I think frequent videos are the way to go. It gives us fans more updates and will make the channel do better on the algorithm as an added bonus

[@anonymouskitten4715]

I really like the technical explanations but design talk is also really interesting

[@thatprogramer]

Love the Christmas theme! The game looks like an absolute banger

[@greenstonegecko]

I think all the lessons you learn are valuable to share with the world. They might seem trivial now, but for beginners these things are very nice to learn. Once it grows too complex I'd grow more towards the "here's what we did"-type videos

[@JazzyJustin]

I like the in depth style, complex from-scratch projects like this serve as inspiration and learning more than just entertainment for me

[@LordOfAllDaGames]

Awesome work as always! I love the sort of in-depth technical videos that you have been making so far. Seeing a complex code base explained in such detail is something I just love to no end!

[@scoutg001]

I love the nitty gritty technical details, as long as those are still in the dev logs I don't have an opinion on the content.

[@mfy0108]

If I were to choose either technical side or thought process, I'd choose both. So interesting to watch such a simple project at the beginning, growing to something unique. I hope you won't lose enthusiasm and motivation. Good luck!

[@dmitrishostakovich3156]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. I very much enjoy your technical in-depth descriptions of the implementation and algorithms of each feature and I would be overjoyed if you could cover the features already implemented in a similar fashion at some point in the future. I say this because this style is completly unique and it would be a shame to lose it. Most content creators either focus on the theory wihout having any in-development project to show it in, or they do have a project, but leave out all of the technical details they think would bore an average viewer. Your channel is the only one I know of which is a union of those two approaches in the best possible way - in-depth theory explained and used because of an actual need and practicality.

[@moortu]

I would love to see more of these in detail videos. You have to know that you cultivated a following of people that like these detailed devlogs. You should never stop them unless it becomes too much for you. al alternative series that is most lighthearted next to it would speak to a different kind of audience, with overlap

[@oightKoreraAreEditable]

Hello glad to see you again:)! I would like some more slice of life, but this in detail talk is really important too

[@akqle4438]

I like the more slice of life approach, it lets you make more content easier and let's us follow your progress better.

[@ethanos7568]

I have really enjoyed the style of videos you have been making; your thought processes invite me to join in your development, but I also love you delving into the more technical stuff cos it's cool to learn the approaches you choose

[@lagbb]

I'm a dev so i would love to see both, if it's not too overwhelming. Technical deep explanations and your creative process, i love your project. And Merry Christmas for you too FFE :D

[@Antumarin]

I love the in-depth explanations

[@doce3609]

i'd love devlogs in the style of thinmatrix, he keeps them focused and kinda slice of life. but a bit of deep explanation sometimes is also good

[@bluesillybeard]

Yeah, I think Thinmatrix found right balance between slice of live v.s technical explanations. He's totally worth checking out

[@Moonman0.0.11]

Excellent work, you’ve done well

[@crowlog]

I really like that your videos go in depth in how your game functions. So I hope you continue this style of devlog :D

[@maxinehowland8246]

I like the slice-of-life style video idea!

[@maxinac]

Slice of life! You're interesting and your perspective is always enlightening and impressive!

[@RGBaker]

I enjoy when you explain the technical details of the things you add. I hope you keep that.

[@nadri3335]

I loved the video, very indepth, It was very good. I hope to see more in the future, have some nice holidays :D

[@randomlegodev]

hooray! so glad to see your still making videos about this project

[@FRareDom]

ur such an underrated developer, and seeing the progress on cosmic reach is pretty inspiring too, keep up the good work bro 🔥

[@AlexGonzalez-mr8mr]

Personally I like the slice of life approach, but your explanations of the in-depth programming and stuff are really interesting too. I think a hybrid style is best here. Looking forward to more devlogs!

[@pietrusbauerus1819]

Please keep it going! I have been following you since the first video and I very much appreciate the work you put into this project. All the features you have added so far are great! But I have that feeling that more survival/gameplay focus would be good too. Merry Christmas to everyone reading this!

[@FyveElemental]

Whatever you do, please continue releasing videos that explain the code like you have been, even if they have to be their own thing. I love your optimized approach to coding, and those videos act as fun tutorials about Java optimization. I look forward to playing and modding your game one day as I get better at Java!

[@twa9995]

I love your stuff it's so incredible, I'm happy with anything you do but more videos would be appreciatated

[@geometryflame712]

I would love slice-of-life style devlogs from you. Just like this video, like small, interesting little tidbits from your journeys. Thanks for making these videos by the way!

[@Shawn533]

I’m a programmer and I do game dev as a hobby. I think a lot of the people that started watching your videos are in the same boat as me so I think it would be great to keep the more technical explanations in your videos. I really enjoy hearing your thought process and the structure of how things are implemented. I always enjoy your videos and can’t wait to see what’s next!

[@XDRosenheim]

Watching all this unfold on the Discord server has been amazing... But even though all that information is available there, I would still like these kinds of videos, with detailed explanations. As long as the game is this early in development, I think it is a great idea to talk about the underlying code and how everything functions, and then on a later stage (Might be some years), just talk about the updates and what is in them.

[@redvortex_p]

personally I the videos the more detailed with code examples, this is how you started so you have that audience, plus it's way more educational, in my opinion

[@detto1998]

Merry xmas! I like the balance between explaining the more technical things in detail while also showcasing the smaller new features at the end of video. Just enjoy making it in your style and it does wonders. We love a project with soul. I'm looking forward to the game having it's own identity while also feeling like what it was inspired from. The Terraria approach of not sticking to realism and making a fun game would be great. Working with the community and brainstorming together is also very cool.

[@benjaminjohnson6476]

The thought process for deciding what feature to add and, a bit of how, sounds way more intriguing. Using the video brole to show off new blocks well discussing decisions i think is fantastic. That way you can keep it technical but still shkw hey this was wadded or this cow(type) mob was added. Subtle but shows functional process

[@hugomazeas4297]

Great vid as always, glad to have updates, Merry Christmas to you

[@AB1807-1]

I wish you a merry Christmas!

[@duncanmcallister7932]

This is a Christmas miracle

[@GooseOnoob]

Really like the technical aspects of your videos! Keep up the great work (and take breaks when necessary!)

[@3DPrintingRockets]

Amazing progress!

[@popov9651]

Very nice to hear that the work on the game is going great :) I think the mix of the 2 video styles is best. My idea is maybe make an "odd thing that didn't fit in into other devlogs" devlog?Oh and also Merry Christmas to you too, hope the next year will be fruitful for Cosmic Reach 😊

[@shiftless215]

I think you should share whatever you want to share in your dev logs, like you said it’s about the journey and I think that if you put less of a constraint on the type of content you make it will also be more fun to make it, and the fans are here for said journey so as long as you’re interested enough to talk about a subject people will watch

[@oscarschrantz2558]

Great Job, it is amazing how much effort you have put forth, I hope you keep up the progress. I think the way you explain technical details should be kept, it is different than other game devs do it and very interesting.

[@elyusi_kei]

I switched KZbin accounts about a year ago, and was just thinking about your game yesterday and so I went to go play catchup with your devlog. And now there's a new one! I feel spoiled 😇 Re: devlog content, both make sense to me and feel like they make more sense for different types of features. Though maybe coming up with a snappy title for each type of series would help delineate them in terms of recommendations down the line.

[@LambOfDemyelination]

Very amusing seeing my name flash up on the screen :)

[@thevalarauka101]

so this is why you went silent so long! totally worth it. (please add my latin translation)

[@darksunmst4055]

It's good to see you're still doing the devlogs. As for the future format, I'd like to see you continue to include technical explanations for features that require them, but also include more trivial features in the format. Personally, I find it very interesting to see the design process behind a system and how it is implemented. So Merry Christmas and good luck with your development!

[@themanwiththeplan676]

Merry Christmas and happy holidays, everyone!

[@4epbrk_6rk_6rk]

I'm a bit of a programmer and a bit of a game designer, so it will be interesting for me to hear about the intricacies of development from the technical side and how you got to this point and what thoughts came to you. I won't ask for more videos or longer ones, but I'm just interested in following the game.

[@pokemonfanmario7694]

My advice? Don't dedicated Dev Logs to a central idea. You're clearly going through the stage of "maximising features, and polishing previous features", and thus you cannot determine WHAT you're actually doing. So instead of dedicating the logs to an idea, reverse the scenario - make updates as you see fit, and make a Dev Log when you want that compiles what you've just done and what you're planning/hoping to make in the future. Thus, the latter slice of life devlog idea is preferable because you don't need to worry about overt technical step by step detail.

[@TechnoTron_]

Great work. Also explain in detail, please.

[@fauxkiwi]

"Spherical" planets would be extremely cool and fit the game. You could make Torus-shaped planets and project them so they look like spheres

[@pilotmoo2449]

I can be quite a nerd at times so I really enjoy the indepth process of the hows and whys of the additions but I can also understand that it might to be for everyone-- I would be perfectly happy with the alterative option either way

[@David_Leiter]

Love the style you have now, I do think "slice of life" vlog style as you mentioned may do better in the algorithm. If I were to make a request that I've seen instantly improve other creator's videos, it would be to invest in a better mic. The one you use now sounds a bit more compressed and like it's not getting the full range of your voice. If you kept everything the exact same and just improved your mic, it'd be a huge jump. Excitedly waiting for your next update video! Happy to see you're still developing the game! 😁

[@finalforeach]

Thank you! My audio recording is easily the most frustrating part of the process, if I am to get a better microphone I seriously don't know what to look for.

[@nightfall2863]

@@finalforeach hyperX mic are good and recommend them for streaming/recording!

[@NedJeffery]

​@@finalforeach the rode podmic usb is pretty good. Built in DSP so you can tweak it to sound the way you want.

[@SirCluckety]

YEEESSSS multi player is finally here. This is the best minecraft clone

[@retr0breezy]

I'd like to see you make 2 types of videos. Update videos that talk about what you have added in an update. And Process videos where you talk about the challenges you faced in the technical along side your thought process. So that if there are some viewers that are only interested in the updates with brief explanations, then they wont have to listen to parts of the video they don't understand or care about. But I personally love the in depth explanations!

[@SomethingCatchy2_]

The way I would love to see videos go is as forth: a mouthy upload detailing what was accomplished during that month. It doesn't really mater how much detail there is, its nice to have something to look forward to. Though I do love hearing lots of detail and hearing about what and how you have done things, other may not. I beleave it's up to you to decide where to take the dev log. Nice OST! The game seems to fit with it well!

[@fazin85]

the music is so good!

[@PsiandXenos]

Since most major things are dealt with. I would like to see smaller episodes that talk about singular new features and the process that went in to creating them and why.

[@A-zaih]

Keep up the good work!

[@Console.Log01]

I'm so glad that the system described in the first 3:30 of the video is pretty much the exact system I'm using for my own game.

[@lomarix]

Merry Christmas!!

[@sundjinnkari]

Not 1 video, 2 videos. First video: Update details, Second video: Update in depth. This benefits all kinds of players.

[@tcbloxstudios]

I'm making a 3d sandbox game of my own, and would love to see how this game develops! Thank you for trying to tackle this, please do not give up!

[@krembananowy]

4:28 for a second I thought you'd say the solution would be "each user makes an SSH or SSL key, then server does challenge-response with the client". This is how TeamSpeak operated for the longest time. Advantages - no external service to rely on, no account to create for the user. Disadvantages - user would have to copy their key to new device / installation of the game to keep their "account" on the game server, no authority that would list existing users, "multiaccounts" for griefing easy to make as it's just about generating new keys on client machine, rather than bypassing rate limits of an authority server

[@jonas-by5uc]

so happy to see you back, congratulation for the amazing work !!

[@JellkaGamez]

I think it should be a mix of both, also keep up the good work!

[@Jediwarlock]

Woohoo new update! :)

[@adon155]

I like hearing about both the game design side and the more technical development side, maybe start with what features you are adding and why, and then go into the technical side when there is interesting stuff to show off. I also think with how this devlog started there will be a lot of people that got here because of technical details so you have to worry less than the average devlog about boring the audience with that

[@EpiX0R]

I'm a developer who has been very curious about developing games but never really gotten into it, personally I love your in-depth explanations of how technologies are implemented and how they work behind-the-scenes. That being said maybe keeping the technological aspects a bit shorter and adding some form of explanation as to *why* the feature is added in the first place also makes it more interesting to follow along the development of the game. Good luck to you and your game, I hope you are doing well and I hope you don't get stuck in too many nights of endless roadblock bugs!

[@diamondsimon020]

Tysm for adding subtitles to the video 😊

[@lukah6779]

now this is awesome!

[@SuperDavidEF]

I'd love to see more YT uploads. If that means that you switch to "slice of life" style, then that's fine. But I also enjoy the detailed explanations.

[@ukanunomoro4281]

Let's goooo Vertical Slab

[@bamlcd]

so happy this is still being worked on

[@int_overflow]

I'd love to see more in-depth analysis of features, personally; maybe an occasional 'summary' video to cover the more mundane stuff / summarise what's been added could be cool?

[@reclipsel]

o/ it's so nice to watch a project grow in real time and the progress you're making on this is amazing But just a curiosity, as a Minecraft modder, is there any chance we will get an official modding API in the future and/or an official repository for mods? As per Minecraft's modding scene this game also got a huge modding potential and I would love to see the good ol' early life of modding again. Wish ya good luck in the future with the project and hope you will get it even above your expectations

[@justabrowser4744]

I'd like a bi-monthly devlog consistenting of everything you added in those 2 months and your plans for the next 2 months, going into technical detail for complicated features, but keeping it short for simple features.

[@Rektic9317]

Finally

[@randommaker5]

I like the in detail videos

[@xenodeno6279]

Id enjoy future dev logs if they were concise on a concept like adding dungeons or a hunger system, but it would be nice if they were more frequent. In general I think a good focus on development would be to add more progression to work through to avoid the game being Minecraft with just different ideas. Love seeing the progress so far, the game feels really cool already

[@yanlucasdf]

Merry christmas mister each

[@grapesandsand3816]

personally, i like the technical explanations, the thought process, and seeing all of the features even if they dont fit the theme. But, i understand that the longer the devlogs are, the less time you have for actually developing the game, so i dont really know what the best solution would be. As far as frequency of uploads goes, i dont mind long gaps as long as the videos are good, which they are. But, you could also put out shorter update videos for small features if you want to keep them out of longer, themed, videos where they don't fit, or if you want to upload devlogs more frequently. Whatever works the best for you not to get burned out is the best idea in the end i think

[@KlausBC]

I like the current video style but I'm here because it's a FinalForEach video, I'm sure even if the style changes I'll probably like it

[@mrface120]

I like the current video style

[@Nicenag257]

I would really like procedurally generated animations for enemies, e.c.

[@danielcordoba9018]

Make your devlogs as long as you want, with the pace you want and with the style that you want. Keep them interesting though, that's why I ended up here.

[@richardfrisk3509]

I would like to hear your thoughts on why you add certain features.

[@movingheadmau8128]

As a programmer myself, I am more interested in the more technical deep-dive-style videos. However, I think I could also enjoy a more surface level video about the game-design thought process behind certain features. To appease the majority, maybe switch it up between technical deep-dive devlogs and ones that are more on the surface/game-design level.