From Social Media Influencer to OnlyFans Creator: The SHOCKING New Trend

[@CaitlinPawlowski]

I paid for an AI girlfriend in this video it was creepy and weird but also strangely entertaining kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5-Uc6qNZbGFbZY

[@djshockafrica4330]

Honestly that golden hour sunset made you look even prettier somehow

[@progpowermetalhour]

Hopefully these ppl save what they earn and not burn through it because in 10-15 years, Japan's physical AI girlfriend bots will be so lifelike, it will crash this online influencer economy faster than a California wildfire. IJS

[@dcocky1]

​@@djshockafrica4330Calm down

[@gyvaszodis3561]

Sex SLAVE industry sucks your soul, your vital Life energy, creative feminine essence out. So you start serve and feed matrix system. Its drains you out. Once you start selling your essence you lose yourself. Easy money, fame is soul trap. Whatever you get is cheap for what you lose - Yourself. All matrix system is made to keep us on fear, trauma and survival mode so we become desperate to do anything to survive. All this celebrity, influencer industry works as pimps, recruiters of younger women, women in vunerable positions. Promotion and normalisation of degradation and prostitution that we witness is a crime against humanity, atack on women, it degrades society, our relationships, block our growth and evolution as human species. Only fans is next step ( one of many) of trying to enslave humanity by digitalisation of our reality, making it normal - online sex, online relationships, A.I. profiles. So you shut real, physical life and stay on screens. (Covid was part of isolation agenda too). That's how they control you and keep you programmed and enslaved. They want you isolate yourself, live in fantasy, escape land. We are facing a change of paradigma how societal structure is made. Be consciuos, stay out of soul traps, we are on edge of breaking current fabric down. Our old reality is breaking.

[@annipsy2185]

i think the word "empowering" is being used in exchange of "im enjoying getting lots of attention and money"

[@hairbeauty8083]

this is so true its like getting likes but adding money

[@gailainsley6939]

It’s simply because unfortunately, most of these girls were taken advantage of at an extremely vulnerable time in their lives. The ‘empowerment’ that THEY feel is the fact it now happens on THEIR terms. Thats what that means. Women take the word ‘empowered’ too literally. Of course if you don’t have that sort of background you won’t understand it. Therefore, it doesn’t and will never apply nor address you.

[@youreincredible1648]

How i felt as stripper, is that not one discription of empowering.

[@annipsy2185]

@@youreincredible1648 sorry ,im not sure what you meant (if you were saying stripping was empowering or not) so ill just add this to my original comment . as a woman in my grown up years ive always been aware of my power. always been aware you can use it to gain attention and money. never got into a habit of doing it though, i dont need that to feel powerful or confident. and i think thats whats what "empowering" means to me. to have a power and to not abuse it / to carry it with poise and grace. otherwise it sorta looks more like an abuse of power to me, or at the least, distasteful.

[@annipsy2185]

sorry this wasnt very clear to me what you meant

[@mooglelee4263]

OF is not only about porn, but it's definitely the most popular use of it currently. the good thing about this platform is that it has very strict identification to ensure that no one below 18 is accessing the website or/and content, where the same Twitter or Twitch both have issues with sexually provocative content being distributed and promoted to underage users (since both of those are 13+ and considered to be family friendly) so yes, it is questionable in terms of sex work and etc, however, at the same time OF does WAY more work on protecting children compared to any other platforms edit: also it's not exclusive to women, men also make accounts and make a lot of money from it

[@nikkismith2858]

That radio KZbin show “however” was very men vs only fan girls- the men are free to start their only fans too.

[@Emche826]

Exactly. Men are on it too yet women are the only ones being shamed for having an OF.

[@Automat2]

​@@nikkismith2858those men won't start anything because they are so 'masculin' that would shortcircuit their only brain cell available.

[@Madeleine452]

That’s what I was going to ask. Do you necessarily have to do naked stuff on OF? I don’t think so. I don’t think it’s only always about being naked

[@mooglelee4263]

@@Madeleine452 absolutely not! there are many many SFW accounts people are simply choosing the platform instead of youtube, patreon, etc because they prefer its monetization type more NSFW is still 90% of content on there, however OF doesn't always mean NSFW :)

[@jazzosaurousyes5787]

It’s definitely a two-way street if men aren’t paying for women’s OnlyFans content the value of that work diminishes however it’s equally true that if women don’t create this content there’s no opportunity for men to invest in it. I think selling this fantasy of making a lot of money quickly is feeding into people’s greed and it disregards the value of yourself. You can get the life you want and be happy with doing the work on who you are as a person. Financial fulfilment doesn’t last for long, being content and happy and fulfilled as you are as a person is much more valuable. But we as a society are so blinded by money we forget what really matters.

[@Lostincircles4alltosee]

You should have touched on the long term affects OF has on the mental well-being of its creators.

[@sirtwiz]

As a man, porn is so pervasive and invasive that it's almost hard to escape. Especially when I was younger, it was seen as cool or edgy to watch porn, most of us not realizing that it is seriously addictive. Luckily I have slowed down on watching it, and am looking at cutting it out entirely, because it seriously warps your perception of reality, and honestly makes you feel inadequate for not living this lifestyle. Like Josh Brett said in regards to social media, even if we know it's fake, our brains are not evolved enough to perceive it as such. In terms of women's empowerment, I don't personally think it does much for it. I would rather see a successful businesswomen creating something that's tangible, a new invention, clothing brand etc. Personally I think it does more to sexualize women and to make them appear as objects of sexual desire, and I believe it funnels young women into think this is the way they will feel valued.

[@SvDu-bb7rh]

If it gives women new opportunities and improves their lives without any health or mental problems - I totally support them. It’s an honest work, I’d never shame someone for it.

[@jelemil]

I’d argue against without mental problematic :/

[@kiki-qm9lk]

everybody says it’s empowering but nobody would let their daughter do it

[@skinnyrat4277]

or consume content of women the same age as their daughters ://

[@toxiczombiewolf5692]

What's empowering is a lady has an of for her car making a joke and also money off it. It's a funny idea ro make money without selling your body. The car is a hurse so she makes jokes about its body count.

[@MooseBme]

Pimp moms and step-dads would.

[@StefanTaf]

then don't? who is forcing u?

[@miyangtangwan7046]

You just haven't heard about any cases. I know of a woman who started an OF account WITH her daughter.

[@kianamoore5390]

As a young woman, None of this seems empowering or self-affirming. Just sad, and makes me think of low self worth, esteem, and a lack of dignity due to money. Just because the shackles/cage is made of diamonds doesn’t make them any less constrictive. Bondage is still bondage, and a gilded cage is still a cage nonetheless. It’s just….a bit depressing to be honest. And it seems like other women are simply recruiting or coercing other young girls by deception of the revenue they *could* make, which is a p*mping tactic that’s similar to what’s done on the street/blade. The glamorization of self-degradation and prostitution is nefarious, even more so when it’s other women doing the recruiting instead of the men. It could go left in many ways so quickly. I had a friend who was trafficked and all of this is just so gross to me.

[@amandajohnson8116]

Very well written.

[@bmo64_]

all of what you said is SO REAL. This comment honestly needs to be pinned.❤

[@Chillikilli]

You are not alone in your opinions. I fully agree wirh everything you said.

[@AnnAndNala]

100%

[@TeeBee-yj5tt]

I concur 😢💞🌎💜

[@TrueImmortality]

Yeah, nurses don't make sh*t here in many states in the US. Neither do teachers, paramedics, public defenders, social workers...The list goes on. It's sad that athletes, influencers, and OF creators are raking in this kind of money while the people holding society up have to live with 2-3 roommates to survive.

[@thepinkkush]

Why shouldn’t entertainers be able to make this amount of $. Why do ppl feel they have to put someone down to lift someone up

[@TrueImmortality]

@@thepinkkush Because they contribute considerably less to society than the pillars holding it up. In a fair world, we would all be paid proportionate to our necessity to society. I appreciate entertainers, but why does a football player or an actor make millions of dollars while a teacher doesn't even make enough to live on? It's sad.

[@thepinkkush]

@@TrueImmortality if you’re trying to be paid in a equal and fare world you need to get out of the United States immediately.

[@TrueImmortality]

@thepinkkush Oh sure, I'll just do that lol. Also, we can change our country from within. We have in the past.

[@thepinkkush]

@@TrueImmortality you’re missing what makes America so great having the freedom at we fought for. You know that you can go into a fancy cookie store and buy a six dollar cookie or you can get a whole pack from Walmart for less than six dollars. It doesn’t matter about what you contribute to society. if you want to be paid six dollars for making a cookie you should be able to it should not be up to me to tell you I shouldn’t pay you six dollars because I can go get it somewhere else. You have the choice to pick a job that pays you well . I went to school to be a high school history teacher, and ended up dropping out because I couldn’t afford the schooling. This just shows you that I willingly signed up, knowing that I was not going to be making any money.

[@stonecake313]

Sex work used to be something that people turned to when they were desperate or had no other options. But with OF it feels like young girls/naive women are being brainwashed into thinking it’s no big deal. I have no hate towards sex workers and want them to have legal protections and safe working conditions, but it’s not something that we should be pushing as a “no big deal” thing or a viable career. It’s so depressing when I see boys and girls start an OF the second they turn 18

[@diamondcreeper28]

The only sane comment in a sea of degrading sex workers

[@MsAwesome6814]

I feel the same way about 18 year old running to the strip club on their birthday, mcdonald’s wasn’t hiring?

[@colchiquesdanslespres9011]

That's why we need more education, prevention and information. But I really prefer for young women to go on OF than to wait to be completely desperate, try to do porn (sometimes very very young), and be treated horribly or raped, since this industry is not regulated enough. At least with OF, the performers are more in control and safer.

[@dianelambert2016]

I really don't think it's jealousy or feeling directly threatened that makes women shun the creators of explicit content. I think that many women are just not okay with that industry and the people perpetuating that industry. A small percentage of the creators make mind boggling amounts of money, but as a woman I can't help but fear that that industry makes it harder for me as an ordinary woman to be taken seriously, for me to be valued for myself as a whole person and could put my own relationships at risk.

[@nursefulness2274]

Interesting point!

[@erinM1063]

Agreed! The industry offers nothing of value to society.

[@sadiemakesmesmile]

Yes, as if men needed more reasons to treat women like objects

[@makenzienohr4105]

PREACH PREACH PREACH Sexual norms changing affects us all, even if we don’t participate

[@buffysummers4079]

I completely agree with you! This work reflects on all women.

[@prettynpetty8342]

A month ago, I fell down this rabbit hole and tbh I felt seduced by the sheer amount of money these women make. Even if I wanted to, I don't think I have the body for it. One thing you didn't touch on was the amount of men on YT teaching other men, primarily, to essentially become pimps. Mostly teaching how to start OF agencies and doing very little to leech off the labor of women while keeping their dignity intact. If there are women selling their bodies, men must capitalize on that somehow, right? It's clear we're regressing in values as a society. What's the point of being a nurse or a teacher if you can't buy a house? You might not be able to to get a traditional job again and may lose relationships but the point is the pay everything off so you own it outright. I also just think what's the difference between a Dita Von Teese, who I adore, and an OF model? It's the packaging.

[@KevDecorMusic]

I’ve seen more men trying to help men stay focused and away from this trap of giving their money to models and content creators in order to create their own empire/stability than what you mentioned. In fact not once has a video popped up on my feed (on any platform) on how to create an agency and capitalize on women. I would say if you’re seeing this, it’s far outweighed by the men trying to do good.

[@steffymuze]

I met Dita Von Teese at a convention years ago with a photographer I knew. She is amazing, so kind, beautiful and tiny like a porcelain doll 💕 This industry has changed so much, it's unreal. And yes, we are regressing as a society and it's truly frightening.

[@devilmaycry9969]

I made only fans to get a house and it gave me that opportunity. The military barely helped, nursing is a crappy career that you will work until you d:@d . Nurses and teachers quit anyways.

[@dreamylovee7993]

@@devilmaycry9969 exactly, i agree. and yet look at all these comments and this caitlin girl liking comments that say "this is disgusting" and negative sht like that. people are burnt out and can no longer do it anymore, nursing is a bad career and there's ton of nurses on social media telling new students to not take nursing as a career cause it is soul crushing and draining work where you will not be respected at all. apparently OF is also soul-crushing and you "wont get respect" but guess what -- you can buy a house and pay your bills unlike being a nurse or a teacher (which is 2 examples of women being in these careers mentioned in this video and they were tired of their 9-5 job not paying them benefits and for their hard work and they quit their job to go make big bags from OF) I will never judge someone that wants that kind of freedom.

[@criskp6861]

That is scary

[@ellaeadig263]

I was heavily into feminist Twitter in around 2020 and EVERYONE started doing it so I figured I'd do the same. I thought it'd be a good way to earn money and I support sex work as a legitimate career so I wasn't afraid of any stigma around being a sex worker. I even went as far as to buy lingerie and start doing test videos and things to see how to make my content better. My husband was also totally on board with it, which was the most important thing. But I had some kind of hesitation and so dragged my feet on getting it started. Within that time I watched a how to video by Lena The Plug and she said "Look, if you do this for only one day, it's still out there forever and it will follow you forever". Now I'm SO glad I never took the step. I have no judgement at all on anybody who did it, and half your luck if you made bank out of it, but I just think I would have regretted it. It's a little odd to me now to to see how many people who were talented in other ways (influencers, Iggy Azalea, etc) just resort to it to make a living. To each their own but I have a little concern that some people might regret it? I have nothing to base that on, just a gut feeling and I'm concerned for them. Also, Iggy Azalea quit music and sold her entire catalogue for $8 million or something. She started doing OnlyFans to provide for her son and now she is selling cryptocurrency (that's what $mother is). I think we need to pull at the thread of influencers/celebs selling cryptocurrency too!

[@adriennethiery5432]

Sounds like iggy is terrible with money

[@Bunn.B]

You should watch Coffeezilla if you're interested in learning more about crypto scams and the influencers, celebs who push them, along with the "dark side" of it. Coffeezilla is like THE guy. I learned a lot about the whole industry simply watching him expose or cover the scams. He's incredibly thorough and super knowledgeable. ❤

[@donmac7780]

If you have 5 million dollars investable(assuming Iggy Azalea's 8 million dollar sales figure is pretax) you do not ever need to work again to live a very comfortable lifestyle. Only if you want to live a truly extravagant lifestyle woukld you need any more.

[@miyangtangwan7046]

Wow! You married a great guy. Would you have done it if you could ensure your identity was kept secret?

[@elin_]

I had no idea Iggy was doing that crap.. I'm not gonna follow her on Spotify anymore

[@egl3369]

I find it interesting that women who create OF are judged, yet the men who consume it aren't. I personally couldn't do it. Disgusting, creepy men messaging you all day 🤮Knowing that most of them are probably married or in a relationship and lying to their partner.

[@Rapunzel674]

Yes they are. They’re called simps .

[@AnnAndNala]

The men are definitely judged. Most women that I know (including myself) find men who constantly consume OF and corn disgusting and creepy, just as you stated. She didn't seem to be judging the OF "models" at all, but instead discerning that doing that for a living did not appeal to her personally. She said the reason for making this episode on this topic is in response to numerous comments asking her why doesn't do it herself. IMO she answered the question quite eloquently and matter of fact, sans judgement of the women who do indeed choose it for themselves. Discerning that something isn't for you, is different from judging.

[@sarahalderman3126]

They are judged, by many women. In fact after the age of 24-25 it becomes unacceptable and gross. I could never be around a grown man who consumes abuse material of young women, it shows an unhealthy sexualization and deep immorality. I do find it rather disturbing the numbers of women who excuse this sort of perversion. Especially since having children. There is honestly no excuse for exposing your children to the presence of a man who objectifies children in this manner.

[@gauloise6442]

@@Rapunzel674 And incels

[@tyd8077]

Both sides deserve judgement

[@kingbee44]

I build products for a living, and one thing I know is that all products need marketing. So if you already have a big following, your product is more likely to be consumed. These OF creators are themselves the product, so they need to get their marketing sorted out to be successful, especially in such a crowded marketplace. This kind of reminds me of MLM's where the promise is lots of $$ and flexibility, but that's only going to be true for a very few people.

[@steffymuze]

Bingo and there are new, younger, different, whatever- ones every minute and growing. It's a nonstop grind. Plus people/men/their audience gets bored and onto the next one.

[@kingbee44]

@@steffymuzeEXACTLY. It’s a rat race.

[@Beauweir]

Do you use your looks to get work though? I'm a male performing musician and I do. Even for unrelated industries it's useful as being better looking means that people assume you are more capable through the halo effect

[@NikkiYourTallBestie]

These women not caring about their digital footprint is just crazy to me!! Those images will never die 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@chickennuggiepartygirl9749]

What's even worse are the videos. Nude images are horrid enough, imagine the videos of such acts🤢

[@queenbrii2266]

Really tho? You think a digital footprint lasts FOREVER? Okay, Then where are my MySpace photos? Where are my Photobucket pictures?? Cloud data storage isn’t free and doesn’t last forever, those photos and videos have to be stored somewhere and the servers must be active which costs money. Once they turn off the server, the cloud dissipates and all that data is lost. Even the images and videos saved on individual computers must keep that hard drive running to access that data. Once the computer is old enough they get new hard drives and the old ones in up in land fills. Unless someone somewhere is actively paying to archive pictures and videos they only last as long as the platform they are uploaded to. Truth is this is a short term problem. After about 20 years the data isn’t worth paying to store.

[@toltorg]

I’ll be dead, what do I care. 😂

[@eatplastic9133]

If you post your face in social media they can deep fake it in porno anyway

[@vtop1c]

@@queenbrii2266 it doesn't stay in one place, or even on the website. One thing that people ignore is that a loooooot of people watching that OF video content are screen-recording it in some way, making screenshots, and then that stuff spreads to other platforms and people. For us "regular people" it's not a huge issue only because thousands and thousands of people don't know us. But think about people who became memes ages ago, or "mature" videos that spread around even in the early days of the internet. People still can't shake them.

[@sliverfreak9]

As an ex sex worker, I never once enjoyed sex work. I sadly needed to do it to get by in a desperate situation. Sex work always made me feel dirty and it was degrading. Even though the money was "easy," at the end of the day, it wasn't worth it

[@PeachesLifeStyle]

And that's you. Not everyone. Sorry you ended up not suitable for the work, but many enjoy and can handle it. Without big stinks and complaints even many of us have only had the opposite of your experience. 🎉 Don't assume it's bad for all because you decided it was for you. You do know men are participating as colleagues in the industry equally as much so what's their story? They suffering too? Or are they different since they're male? Always interesting to me when one person's yuck becomes the yuck to all. Like, it didn't work for you. That's YOU. You don't like it? Don't do it. Don't consume it. But don't take others down just because you felt dirty. 🎉 Some can't even relate to you because our experience was so different. It's not for everyone but it's for many!

[@AshtasticAcrobat]

@@PeachesLifeStyleyou sound defensive and I assume this a result of feeling judged. However, she never said anything about “all” she only spoke about her personal experience and how it affected HER. She’s allowed to be honest and say it made her feel dirty and there are several others who have come out and said the same. Just look at the suicide rate in the sex work/porn industry, her experience is very valid.

[@Automat2]

@@PeachesLifeStyle they don't enjoy a single part of it. Some may enjoy the money, but then comes drugs and alcohol, so not much joy in that either.

[@camern2001]

@@PeachesLifeStyleew

[@samkaybeauty2862]

​@@PeachesLifeStyleWhy do you sound bitter though 🤦🏽‍♀️? She was only narrating her experience!! And her feelings are very valid.

[@everything_is_illuminated619]

More power to any woman who does, but there's nothing I hate more than sexual attention from random men. 😂 I worry we are only feeding the beast.

[@marinasamveljan1668]

Agreed.

[@TeeBee-yj5tt]

I concur 🤞🏿💞🌎💜

[@CaitlinPawlowski]

Same

[@lawliet6910]

Amen!!!!!!!!! So well said No hate for the women, but the men? Barf + I go out of my way not to be attractive to men. We are feeding the beast by giving them what they want under the guise of empowerment

[@NormieNeko]

Some men honestly think women owe them something because they're so used to paying for this type of content. That's why some expect action from a first date. It's all become a cheap exchange.

[@ellissseven5486]

While I do agree that a woman can do what she wishes to do with her own body.. I don't care for the glamorization of it. These women that brag about how much they make feels over inflated, they use it as a marketing ploy. It doesn't reflect the true reality. It's similar as being a stripper. Sure on a great night they might make a lot, but there's nights they make barely anything. They're not on social media bragging about making $20 in a night, you only see the overly glamorized "look at this stack of cash" get shared on social media. It feels fake and shady to me.

[@NikkiYourTallBestie]

Dead on!!!

[@whyme7862]

Social media is a highlight reel

[@alisonmercer5946]

Nobody highlights the shitty side of any jobs. Its really strongly marketed as all wonderful but idk if anyone makes much money unless they are already famous.

[@alisonmercer5946]

I think the bad nights are made up for with the good nights. In decent strip bars I've heard about some awful places

[@g_factking]

It's called hype. Like the drake and kendrick beef. One need to create hype to get people talking

[@lisalowrey2230]

Lots to unpack. Exploiting your sexuality to earn money is nothing new; OnlyFans is just a new way to do it. However, I do wonder how many creators take their personal safety into account. Just because you interact with fans through screens does not mean someone cannot find out where you live.

[@LotusesGalaxyOcean]

Yes, I am certain there will be a long term trend of stalking and crimes.

[@beewest5704]

It is safer than other s3xwork even though it also has its dangers.

[@blynn1857]

Exactly this is nothing new just a different platform....what's the saying "there is nothing new under the sun"

[@sarielgrace]

Like herpes, doing OF will come back to bite you in the ass. The internet NEVER forgets Money is nice, but my dignity is worth more

[@KaiAstraStylist]

If someone is in it for the right reasons and is educated and realistic about what they are doing there can be a lot of dignity in onlyfans. There’s dignity in being able to afford the life you want on your own. It’s not for everyone but not everyone will have regrets

[@loneharmony00]

If your your only dignity is your covered skin I would question your IQ

[@sarielgrace]

@@KaiAstraStylist Where's the dignity in cooking bacon naked? Right in front of my salad?

[@arozeisarozie]

@@11beebee not the commenter, but dignity is defined as being worthy of honor or respect as well as having a sense of self-pride. If you hustle that hard, I most certainly think you are worthy of honor and respect and should be proud of yourself. If you have the choice between OF and another job (an actual choice - you’re not forced into OF because you are barely making ends meet), that is where the true empowerment is. It’s sad that our society rewards OF over teaching and nursing, but that’s a reflection of our society, not those who are just trying to play the game the best they can. All IMO, of course.

[@sarielgrace]

I miss the days it was harder to get your hands on R18 stuff since it was on a magazine or tapes. Reality is getting into hypersexualization and parasocial relationships to an unhealthy degree

[@Acehigh-Jenkins]

I read a wonderful quote once “when women have nothing lucrative to sell but themselves the choice is more coerced than free”. That what I believe yeah it’s a “free” choice but how free is a choice in a system that’s stacked against you!

[@Beauweir]

That's capitalism in general though. Might as well win at it.

[@user-et2ng1qb2m]

This is ridiculous. The overwhelming majority of the women doing OnlyFans are women with options, and many of the ones highlighted in this video are not struggling people.

[@marlo8528]

It's fast money, low effort money, and that's the long and short of it. As a CPA, i can see the appeal because it would be nice to pull those numbers, but long term, what does all that xxx stuff do to you mentally and emotionally.

[@amandajohnson8116]

In addition to the mental aspect, what happens when this wave ends? They’re all buying mansions, cars, luxury bags, taking lavish vacations…how many of these women are actually saving anything for when their beauty fades? At that point their videos and pictures are easily accessible to anyone with internet, who’s to say they’ll be able to get a decent job? It’s all very short-sighted.

[@Chillikilli]

​@@amandajohnson8116yup exactly.

[@gemmasmit3577]

@@amandajohnson8116they can always start their own businesses or live off the pro it’s from their investments?

[@vanessapatterson1125]

our young men are sick and believe misogyny is empowering. thank you for bringing awareness to this issue 🩷 almost every young man/ woman is buying into the corn industry and it’s truly horrifying.

[@CaitlinPawlowski]

Thankyou for watching and I agree it’s crazy how it’s now normal and almost considered common

[@ellissseven5486]

It's gross how I can't go on social media without a man asking if I have an OF. As if every woman has a menu.. 🙄

[@xeracalm2023]

@@ellissseven5486 YES!!!! Its like now the expectation is that you are always for sale.

[@shellbell8062]

@@ellissseven5486 I think that's because so many do.

[@Rapunzel674]

Lmao of course ! At what point is it actually a woman’s fault? Do you know the definition of misogyny? Cause clearly you don’t . Nothing about this is misogynistic…at what point is it the woman’s fault ? ALL OF THIS … we thank thank feminists for

[@GoldenTherapeuticStyling]

If this had been a thing when I was 20, I totally would have done it. As I near 40, I am so glad that it wasn't a thing!!

[@thatcrazychiknextdoor258]

That's exactly what I've said before! I actually was a dancer twice and I know my stupid butt would have fallen for this. I feel so sad for the girls who will feel this way when they're our age who have made an OF and wish they could take it back. I think I've heard where it's lead to some un-alivings of themselves. I still worry someone may have recorded me or taken pics in the club and I'm sure there's something out there of me but yeah, I'm happy you avoided that fate as well!

[@GoldenTherapeuticStyling]

@@thatcrazychiknextdoor258 I also ventured onto that stage. Thank God things weren't being recorded then the way they are now. I'm a mother! And therapist! Such decisions nowadays could devastate futures!

[@Automat2]

You can always try. There's some niche corner in every aspect of life for everyone.

[@markusgarcia4136]

I could also get more money if I sold drugs...

[@hiral8521]

I love the direction your channel has taken. More of these please! :)

[@Julia36D]

Same!

[@CaitlinPawlowski]

Thankyou so much! That’s really encouraging to hear ☺️

[@terezjordon2290]

I’ve been curious what the hype is all about regarding only fans. I’m a registered nurse. I’ve made awesome money taking travel positions, though it is extremely exhausting. My side hustle is pet sitting; I’m going to stick with that. Extra money and enjoyment of caring for fur babies. To each their own, my personal opinion is, it’s not for me, there’s no amount of money that I would accept to show my intimate parts to strangers. I feel it’s degrading and sexualizes people. I am not materialistic. Money comes and goes, there’s more respectful ways to make money.

[@MarWoj96]

Something really bothered me about the woman saying that a lot of her content is just doing random stuff naked… that’s almost worse to me. I don’t want everything women do to be sexualized. I want to feel like there are moments of existence as a woman that are free from the lustful, objectifying, male gaze.

[@evaphillips2102]

Y’all and this ‘male gaze’ 🙄

[@susanjeffries5108]

Totally agree! 💯

[@southernmama7606]

Money that comes too easy also leaves the same way. It's not worth it. It's just not.

[@amandajohnson8116]

Perfectly said.

[@bdh711]

But they can save 😭😭

[@elisa-beary]

Exactly!! I refer to that type of money as Monopoly money. 💰

[@Lili-p1b5t]

You think that work is easy?? I think it’s one of the hardest jobs on earth.

[@dreamylovee7993]

Not if you invest right. Make a million dollars, put it into the S&P 500, live off the dividends for the rest of your life. Never touching the principle.

[@validwithvee]

Imagine getting married to the love of your life and then you find out he’s out there subscribing to multiple women on only fans

[@g_factking]

Many men who are in relationships do

[@amiek9226]

A lot of married men justify it and compartmentalize their consumption of pr0n and OF but in reality they are redirecting their time, energy, and money towards OF when they ought to be putting those resources towards their marriage and family, which is what they promised on their wedding day. It feels like betrayal to their wives because that’s what it is.

[@beewest5704]

Many women have their husband's drain savings to give to OF girls. It's ridiculous.

[@rockyrillz105]

That’s because they’re in sexless marriages so they gotta get they release somewhere. Do I condone it no, I think it’s dumb to pay a woman anything just to look at her. But do I understand some of the married men doing it yes.

[@skinnyrat4277]

@@rockyrillz105 thats still so degrading and disrespectful to their wives though. Idk if they would feel the same way if their wives did the same behaviour...

[@sukievw]

onlyfans is a skidmark on our society, but finding someone who isn’t some right wing grifter talking about this is SO relieving

[@erinM1063]

Your self respect is worth infinitely more than any amount of money! Once it's gone it's gone forever. Absolutely not okay with OF and it makes me so depressed for womankind that they've been duped into thinking this is empowering.

[@southernmama7606]

Absolutely! Thank you!

[@arozeisarozie]

I don’t think all of them have been duped. Look at the former nurse, for example. Anyway, I think they are playing the game in the best way that they know how. These women aren’t stupid. Self-respect comes from oneself, not from societal expectations. You make your dough, you file your taxes correctly, you save enough to retire - I would respect myself quite a bit.

[@ariesdelfuego]

its not for everyone! some enjoy it

[@slimecorn]

If wages weren’t stagnant this wouldn’t exist. I personally wouldn’t do it unless it was a last resort but we live in a capitalist society so this in inevitable

[@palladium607]

Thats actually not true. You can definitely regain self respect. Its not that big of deal.

[@Fstop313]

Not worth it. Not worth it.

[@srey_p]

The last girl said it perfectly! If the demand wasn’t there then these women wouldn’t be flocking to the app. Personally I wouldn’t want to be associated with anyone that watch or creating OF content. We are free to do whatever we want but if others don’t agree or feel comfortable with your line of work then you can’t be upset or blame them for their opinions either

[@nnss7728]

What i don’t understand is why the blame on women? The video clip where the guy said “its because of women and this content that we have weak men” is absolutely absurd. If women stopped making the content men would find a way of creating this content for themselves, we are seeing this now with the rise of AI women who are making just as much money because men are wanting this content. Majority of these AI women are created by men and corporations. The blame alone lies in the people consuming this content. Stop consuming it and it will stop the revenue

[@ZZ-qy5mv]

The blame is heavily on the platforms, websites, and studios who sell it too. These platforms market for young people to join on both ends. It might not be OF doing it, but young little boys and girls are absolutely groomed by society to consume this content. It’s not looking at the whole picture to only blame those who consume this content.

[@patu.121]

They call it empowering, all I see is low self esteem and looking for validation from the outside. We really need to start working on our mental health ASAP.

[@guinealove3744]

I agree. Although there are (I believe) a small percentage of women that come at this strategically, a vast number have no idea of the extreme negative outcomes. Not sure why, but the nurse Only Fans creator popped up in my recommended. The title basically bragged about the amount of income, ease, and enjoyment she gets from doing OF. Young men sitting in a dark room clicking into his OF account. Young woman pops up to stimulate the wrong head. OMG! I've become a prude. lol

[@divinealchemy3078]

Watch till their pretty privilege and youth dies out, they won't call it empowering anymore 🤫

[@steffymuze]

Yep. We're doomed as a society for this reason but rather, it's called "Influencing" now.

[@erinM1063]

Preach! I love that you called this out, no one is saying this because of appearing judgmental, but it's absolutely true and we have to start being honest about it.

[@adriennethiery5432]

I think it’s more to do with stagnant wages and rising COL

[@xrp9889]

Let’s not forget the social media to corn 🌽 addiction. Ruining men’s minds and relationships.

[@Amara53]

Men are in control of themselves. As are women. Men choose to consume and indulge themselves on OF content and p’orn. Men are their own downfall and have no one else to blame but themselves.

[@BarerootSE]

And it’s so normalized they don’t think they are doing anything wrong. Meanwhile it destroys their spouses trust and self esteem

[@xrp9889]

@@BarerootSE exactly!!!

[@klaythoring1326]

The data says that the average OF makes like 150$ but it won’t say the median and the distribution suggests what any social media suggests, what we all know: you already have = you get You don’t have = you can’t get

[@beewest5704]

The women who make bank are the once who take can their followers & then convert it to OF followers. For your normal Jane Doe they will only make abt 2k per month. Many C & D list celebs make hundreds of thousands.

[@GentlemensDialogue]

I recently saw a video on it and if I remember correctly 80% makes $150-$200 a month, the top 10% makes 2 to 4k a month, the top 5% is 6 to 8k a month and the 1% who are mostly early birds average 10k to well into 6 figures monthly

[@RedDeadReverie]

As a retired SW, I’ll always support other women in the industry. But I have a problem with the industry itself and their practices. Also how p*rn addiction affects men is extremely detrimental. Causes er•ctile dysfunction and intimacy issues.

[@greeneghost44]

I respect sex workers and believe they deserve protection, but I would never encourage anyone to enter into that field willingly if they have other options. I think the risks typically far outweigh the rewards and it can put women in dangerous situations or have repercussions that we cannot foresee.

[@criskp6861]

I feel the same way!

[@blablabla_d]

The tiny teeny sneak peak and “you’re welcome” 😂❤

[@CaitlinPawlowski]

😂 quite saucy for a soft launch if I do say so myself

[@jlcustis]

I don’t really care what people do. But I don’t think it’s good mentally for the women who are doing it. To put yourself worth as just a sex object. And not good for men to consume so much sexual content without meaning and connections. I love sex too. But at some point there should be a good balance of love and sex.

[@veeee27]

I am anti sex work because it is honestly a dangerous and predatory industry but i am pro sex worker [i would never encourage anyone to take this up but i do believe they deserve respect and protection] because throughout history and even now these people [especially women] have been treated as less than human because of what they do. Which is crazy because men, the main consumers and sustainers of the industry are rarely ever viewed/impacted negatively. I think its going to be interesting a few years from now to observe the impact only fans will have had on society [especially young people]

[@dubyeh5243]

I understand where you are coming from. Also remember males, especially in the LGBT community, report being exploited, treated as a toy without any thought of them as a nonconsensually humiliated. Simulatenously they have a tiny fraction of a chance of attaining the life-changing pay scales reached by female peers in the industry. A succinct metaphor that provided me additional perspective about this social issue: Who does society place a greater blame on - the dope dealer or the user? This social phenomenon exists for reasons far beyond gender; it has changed society in a way that can harm both genders, in various ways.

[@haleytruslow7200]

I see the appeal, but personally I could never do it. Intimacy is special and selling it just doesn’t feel right. I would also be concerned about how this would affect my loved ones

[@KittyKat-xg4tx]

I think everyone has become numb to this type of content now. Seeing a naked person isn't as exciting or shocking as it used to be even 10 years ago. No one is really surprised another woman has created an account, as another man pays for it.

[@tf8187]

True. Everything is too exposed nowadays, there is no mystery, there’s no secrecy. I preferred when some things were left unknown.

[@joelle4226]

Seeing someone naked shouldn’t be exciting or shocking.

[@KittyKat-xg4tx]

@joelle4226 it is if youre attracted to them.

[@rachiboo14]

Onlyfans is disgusting, end of

[@Michadoo]

Don't shame the women unless you're gonna shame the men using onlyfans too. Also this is the economic climate we have created as a society.

[@jelemil]

1000% it’s the subscribers that create the market to make this appealing

[@chunkyhairlesscat]

another thing I feel strange about is doctor/nurse to tiktok/social media influencer pipeline. many of them completely leave their jobs that, sorry to say but, actually give back to the community, and their number is rising. edit: it’s all understandable though, tiktok pays better in many aspects than saving lives…says a lot about our society obsessed with narcissistic behaviour/people

[@sams3015]

I follow boxing and I see many fighters have only fans now (including male ones). It’s apparently for fitness content but I find it so weird even if it’s innocent since we associate the brand with adult material. It’s just very odd to see their sponsorships during professional fight on the shorts or whatever. It’s a bit like Ring Girls, I never liked it and most professional boxing in Europe seems to done away with it, but US still has them even for female bouts. I find it jarring.

[@CaitlinPawlowski]

Wow I didn’t know that! 😮

[@jovn-do9dtjvxlk]

They get paid by Onlyfans to join the platform, that's kinda different... the strategy of the company is to reach outside of sex work so they sponsor boxer and other artists... same for fansly who seek to gain audience with streamer (like ludwig and the sponsporship of his chess tournament) they try to enter new fields to find new audiences...

[@JK-gi3ew]

It's so sad to see so many young women on OF thinking making 300K a year is normal and for what? To buy handbags? What's that saying...easy money, hard consequences!

[@southernmama7606]

Agreed!

[@southernmama7606]

An entire future of regrets and humiliation. Sadness and depression. For themselves and their children.

[@LotusesGalaxyOcean]

Ironically some of these top earners are basically making 300k to a million a year. There are classic more hazardous jobs and many basic businesses that can earn that. Working on an oil rig, electric line worker, builder inspector, plumber and more. The reality is even if women did not want to do some of these careers long term you could do it for a few years and change to something else. Do it long enough to buy a house and set up an investment portfolio and then stop.

[@amandajohnson8116]

They buy a mansion, handbags and cars. This wave will wain to a ripple and then what? This isn’t sustainable and most of them aren’t considering the future (in multiple ways).

[@devilmaycry9969]

@@LotusesGalaxyOceanlet us be real. Most careers don’t lead to house buying these days. A 30/hr nursing job will never get you a good investment portfolio. Get real.😂

[@carrino15]

Its sad when children are having their parents taking pictures for pornografic OF creation. Or when children being punished for their parents actions. I don't know how to solve this but boundaries between parents and children should be there.

[@thepinkkush]

It’s sad when parents aren’t making enough feel they have to go do this

[@eatplastic9133]

@thepinkkush it takes a certain kind of a person to do it. Poor or not

[@christinelee6477]

I believe it's an easy cop-out and does reflect laziness & lack of creativity, as you suggested at the end. I've seen some artists whose fashion sense and style I liked & was disappointed that they were also OF influencers.. I couldn't help but think "what a waste" b/c they're catering to the male gaze & setting a shitty example for women rather than potentially doing something positive & contributing to society. Of course OF is prob much easier money though.

[@PurpleGold.]

As a female entrepreneur myself, I say this isn’t women’s empowerment. It’s the opposite. While they’re upping their game by degrading themselves more and more just to get the bag, I’m upping my game as a sociologist with businesses that is all about community building. The girls might be getting financial freedom but it’s a very hedonistic approach. This is destructive to society in the long run. Learning how to get financial freedom through many income streams without selling your dignity is possible, more profitable and definitely more sustainable.

[@alisonmercer5946]

Yeah that's possible for anyone who is only fans ,sure. Wouldn't it be nice if all jobs paid a living wage? People have jobs and are homeless and that right there is a social problem. The people who say. No, people don't deserve a livin wage if you work at,for example , a fast food place are sick in the head ,too. That people really say that anyone should work a full-time job but don't deserve to make a living wage at it is absurd. So your businesses are helping the community but you don't say in what way.

[@alisonmercer5946]

If anyone has financial freedom from using only fans , why shouldn't they do it. Its certainly better than a low paying job that is physically hard in a way that leaves you physically disabled later in life and all of your hard work got you what? Poverty and a broken up body

[@chxrryery4188]

Lost me with ‘dignity’ if you use such a subjective word like that it tells everyone this is about how YOU feel about it smh

[@for833]

I agree with you 100%

[@PurpleGold.]

@@alisonmercer5946 I own an art studio that tutors disadvantaged people including those with disabilities, an achievement advocating service, and run life skills workshops in affiliation with governmental programs. I worked hard to get a government grant to kickstart that business. People think the government is the enemy. It’s not. If you have something of value to offer society then you are considered an asset and will be rewarded with financial support by the government to get your business off the ground provided you go through the right channels. In other words, we need as a society to stop using all of the excuses to justify immoral actions. Selling your dignity online is not only detrimental to your mental health, it perpetuates brain rot in the consumers which causes societal collapse. So if you choose this lifestyle, and it ends up hurting you (and it will) then that’s on you…because you have plenty of other options. You don’t live in a country where you are at risk of losing your home and family because of an air raid bombing. Think of all the people in this world who don’t even have clean water. Sick of all these online degenerate s workers complaining about low wages just because they want a unattainable materialistic lifestyle. Put things into perspective. If you put your effort in bettering yourself, you will end up with a decent paying job that doesn’t require you to show your pink bits to lonely perverts. Don’t forget the damage it does to your reputation =future, your children, your life partner etc. PLAY THE LONG GAME LADIES.

[@angelwings1979]

I don’t have an issue with OnlyFans or sex work in concept. In application it’s a mess. So much of society is focused on short term gains rather than long term gains. We see so much about OnlyFans as such an easy way to make money and money equals happiness. Basically, just the positives are being promoted. There’s a lot more to this type of career and its impact on these creators that very few talk about. We used to only hear negatives about sex work and now we seem to only hear the positives. The psychological impact, the effect on their loved ones, the issues that SW has on their personal intimate relationships. I could go on. That’s not even mentioning how the current type of SW plays into misogyny and patriarchal ideas of a woman’s place. Just because it’s better than standing on a street corner doesn’t mean it’s a “good” thing.

[@amandajohnson8116]

The fact that multi-millionaire musicians, tv actresses, etc are doing it tells me what I already knew. This is purely about attention… ladies, this isn’t empowering -it’s the exact opposite. Your pictures are out in the world FOREVER. You’ve sold your soul.

[@akeemalleyne5890]

It also indicates that many conventional celebrities don't have the type of money many people think they have.

[@amandajohnson8116]

@@akeemalleyne5890 I personally think that’s more of an indicator that they’re not fiscally responsible with the mo why they have been paid.

[@akeemalleyne5890]

​@@amandajohnson8116, to an extent, yes. But many just don't make the money that people think they do. The potential taxes from a place like California alone would shrink their money massively.

[@heyhey11793]

These people aren’t as rich as you think they are.

[@isabellajaimie]

My question is, is this really consensual, is this really empowering when this is the only way that women can actually make money for themselves? Is that really a choice, or is it a weird type of societal coercion to basically make every woman a SW because they aren't going to be paid, taken seriously, or seen as anything other than an object, anywhere else? I've had guys tell me I could probably make money if I made an onlyfans. I don't want to. I find it degrading and gross that they'd even tell me that. I'm much more than my body, my sexuality, and my appearance. I'm kind of smart and don't want to sell myself like that for money, when there is so much more to me and my life than that. Personally, I don't think the money would even be worth it. Edit: Somebody else said they worry it's just feeding the beast. I 100% agree with that sentiment. It's like they're feeding this monster that they know will only end up hurting other women, and we ALL lose because of it. But... money!! Truly terrifying that it is being normalized. We are worth much more than our perceived value on a corn website, and much more than just objects. We're human too, and this will just end up making all of us look less and less human, and more like objects to be exploited. Like products.

[@justyeeeeeetit]

SOULED out..heartbreaking that people are doing anything for money

[@beewest5704]

Capitalist society for you. Those who can make the most money with the least effort wins.

[@toltorg]

Some of those videos should absolutely not be on TikTok. There are literal 10 year olds on that app. Omg.

[@ms_cartographer]

OF is way too oversaturated now. The risk to reward ratio is so messed up. You had to get in almost a decade ago to make any money, and most OF creators were already influencers before joining. Most new creators won't make any money nowadays. You'd make more money working at Wendy's.

[@southernmama7606]

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 1 Timothy 6:10

[@nicolenatsai]

Amen 🔥

[@purplereignz3348]

It’s all very polarizing 🤔 OF has a similar business model to Patreon but NSFW. Lots of women are overworked and underpaid so if they see a chance to be a top 1% OF creator making millions. I can see how it can be enticing. But I’m still concerned about safety and privacy issues. As well as the rise of OF pimps trying to steal their money smh

[@jasminexxx3911]

It’s the same exact thing as patreon lol

[@heatherrose6108]

I agree with your thoughts, I think our society is crumbling, I think it being “empowering for women” is an excuse for an easier route. This is spitting on the graves of all the women that came before us that fought so hard for us to be taken seriously, for what we can bring OTHER than our bodies. Also men, your children are 100% watching how you treat other women. I wouldn’t want my daughter doing only fans. We need to create a society that values other things.

[@evaphillips2102]

You know, this comment is the first one I’ve ever read which helped me understand exactly why sex work isn’t feminism. Thank you.

[@Chunkyshoesuk]

Im considering it now 🧐🧐 Topless handbag reviews anyone?? 😂

[@thelalanz73]

😂😂

[@CaitlinPawlowski]

😂 new niche incoming

[@anaisnin1469]

Just out of curiosity, why don’t you mention the men that are OF creators? They don’t have the same stigma as the women that do..

[@Hey-Women-iam-bear-choose-me]

Men are less and women don't give a f about them their dignity and morals they give chance to criminals they don't need a husband with pure heart with morality and dignity

[@uchechianaba]

This is a cam very nuanced conversation that, as Simone said, can’t be unpacked in a KZbin comment. There’s economic exploitation, life under the patriarchy, capitalism, ethical consumption, sexual liberation, ethical porn, etc. I personally believe sex work can be ethical, but due to our social and economic structure, it’s very difficult. Yet equally, I do believe sexual liberation and ethical adult content is valid, yet how we go about it. I feel like if the main reason “sex work” is done is for money m, I don’t think it’s “ethical.” I think it’s the same way how people are over working themselves in typical 9-5s; I dint consider that “ethical” either. Yet, “sex work” is highly exploitative. Any, this is a basic summery if my thoughts Edit: also, our society does need to do collective reckoning in who we shame and why we do so

[@KaiAstraStylist]

Love your take! A lot of people need to realize that all work is exploitive. I felt more exploited making $12 an hour from a company who made billions in profits. What we need to do is have a mandatory living wage. Nobody should have to do sex work in order to live a comfortable life and be able to add to a savings. I prefer stripping to a regular 9-5 job because im adhd and i like not having a schedule and just deciding on a whim if i wanna work. I like hanging out with other girls who have a similar sense of humor to me and I have arthritis and found that this job helps me stay active and in less pain because of the dancing. When i was in retail my legs are killing me at the end of the day because i wasn’t allowed to sit, and as a dancer im allowed to sit whenever i want. It’s crazy how these little things like being allowed to sit in a chair have a massive impact on how tolerable the job is

[@LotusesGalaxyOcean]

Are we ignoring that there are levels to exploitation and this industry is the most invasive?

[@sarahwales6276]

​@KaiAstraStylist Few people are being made to do sex work, there are ways to make a lot of money while keeping your dignity in tact.

[@weltschmertzz]

If anybody looks down on OF creators, they should also look down on all the men who are the reason OF exists.

[@michaelaf6580]

Yes. It wouldn’t exist if there weren’t customers

[@fortheloveofcrosstitch6230]

I'm pretty sure we do.

[@angeltravelstheworld]

Another thought provoking vid chick! Sara Blakely from Spanx said it best " money only amplifies who you already were".. she is a billion dollar entrepreneur , who is a self starter and never sold her soul. She worked to build her brand of women's shapewear and fill a need for women while she was doing it. So many influencers build their brands on doing nothing, but showcasing their bodies and showing what they have for lunch. Their only goal is fame and money.. so it makes sense that they will get it any way they can. if your only purpose is money, you will do it any way you can. Even if it means selling your soul to get there. It ties in with the narcissism and ego trend. From the outside, many of these people appear to have everything ( if materialism is all that matters) however they are deeply insecure people and incredibly shallow. When it's all said and done, where will their lives be in 10 years from now? It's so sad what we are promoting to the next generation.

[@carrino15]

Don't worry, AI porn influencers would compete with OF creators. It has actually begun and men find it easier and cheaper to deal with AI porn actor.

[@dreamylovee7993]

Sara Blakely was smart to capitalize on something that was missing from that industry so she made her bags. There's so many people that would do it if they could. Ask 1000 men if they would be a women for a day to do OF and I bet at least more than 55% would say yes, as in, the majority would say yes. Also whats wrong with selling your body? Jenna Marbles (who is loved by the youtube community and for so many years) sold her body at first and made it fit a comedy genre and then she built a brand from that and made millions of dollars then after a few years, quit youtube to live happily. So you wouldn't do that? Fine then let these people (men and women) do OF and hopefully that leads them to financial freedom. If I could make a million from it, I would invest in it into stocks and live off the dividend at 4% a year. I already buy stocks to begin with but having millions makes life easier. I applaud the women that made it out of poverty because I work with people that are homeless AS PART OF MY JOB and they are willing to do anything to get a job and a place to call home. How do you not see the systemic barriers? How do you not see how often people struggle to get by? I see it everyday and help them navigate the systems and its getting increasingly hard because many federal programs are reducing grants for our non-profits. Don't do you see? This could be the solution for some people to help themselves go from one socioeconomic class to the next and be able to support themselves.

[@traceymoore731]

It’s sad that this is where humanity is. No moral compass anymore.

[@KaiAstraStylist]

What is a moral compass? My morals are to live my life the way i want as long as i am not hurting anyone else. Sex workers aren’t hurting anyone

[@ネコ-t7n]

@@KaiAstraStylist debatable ...

[@traceymoore731]

@@KaiAstraStylist the fact that you don’t even know what a moral compass is is half th problem🤦‍♀️

[@xeracalm2023]

@@ネコ-t7n Agreed - it is degrading society. Its rotting mens brains, its alienating men and women from each other and making people lonelier and lonelier - and it is making women basically just for purchase.

[@lolapriya]

I've worked admin for OF agencies. Most are quite exploitative but that's another topic. Most of these big influencers don't show anything on they OF... Not even nipples... Lots of click bait titles Also the women recommending OF is problematic. I'm pro-SW but this isn't easy... Most people do not make money

[@LotusesGalaxyOcean]

Watch some of Jon Uhler discuss how dehumanizing makes people into sociopaths and psychopaths and how this industry does that and please reconsider.

[@xeracalm2023]

Is it true that some of the women who recruit other girls as a referral actually continue to get a portion of the earnings from those other girls? It smells a lot like a multi level marketing thing where the recruitment of others is where you can actually get more - which is rather gross

[@LotusesGalaxyOcean]

@@xeracalm2023 It is true. And sometimes they will target underage girls as well.

[@lolapriya]

@@xeracalm2023 yes for sure! They get a referral percentage. To be fair most of the women they recruit won't really make anything but I guess that's even more like an MLM in that way

[@JanineWhite]

It is not surprising that women who tried and failed to maintain an income stream flaunting products in videos move on to monetize their own bodies when that runs out.

[@momob7174]

I think the topic of sex work is difficult discussion to have. Most of the OFs people we usually see are often time conventionally attractive women who come from more wealthy backgrounds who praise it because they have gotten success out it and praise it while ignoring sex work from those who probably might be disabled, working class and or considerably not the ideal beauty standard. Since Covid, we saw an uptick in OF because many people couldn't afford things because a la pandemic and people were doing out of survivial not because they felt empowered. My gripe with liberal feminism had really glamourised sex work as this empowerment thing and really ignored the issuses with the sex industry and how it not only affects poor folks, disabled folks or even in the global south where the sex industry deeply affects poor women over there and how often times these men from the global north travel there and get those workers pregnant or promise to help them but abandon them once they have children while they can go back to their normal lives aboard.

[@CZsWorld]

I like how you put in clips of them speaking. It's crazy just how many have the cliche "little girl voice". I wonder what the Venn diagram looks like between OF and abused...

[@thecougarandthecub2560]

I love your channel. It’s nice to watch someone who has very similar views and expresses themselves so well. Thank you for going in this direction. Please keep it up. We will continue to watch. Thank you.

[@CaitlinPawlowski]

Thank you so much!

[@BuxomBunny13]

I would personally never do OF, but I understand why other women choose to do so 😂

[@watchshortiego]

omg, I absolutely LOVE that you used Hollyannaeree as your thumbnail‼️ I used to watch her videos for make-up and lifestyle content, and her channel has changed SO dramatically. It’s SUCH a bummer to see all her talent as a make-up artist wasted, and all her engaging lifestyle content just disappear. I’ve always wondered if it’s due to her promising OF or what. 😩😭

[@AriEllePhilia]

omg i couldn't believe it was her, i havent watched her since a decade maybe. she was up there with Michelle Phan who I would watch and Jlovesmac1

[@christinale5588]

Omg I was just thinking about jlovesmac the other day. I use to watch her and makeupbyleinababy all the time.

[@NeRe-zq5hf]

I'm not for sexwork at all..but where was was all the outrage when men were making money of of women in sex work...it's interesting that now that all the profit goes direkt to the women's it is an huge issue...

[@PeachesLifeStyle]

THANK YOU FOR THAT POINT.

[@VeronicaW-e3d]

My body and my dignity are not for sale at ANY price...and that goes double for my child and family's dignity and wellbeing. When young women consider doing this, they should first watch a bunch of the hundreds of 'Only Fans Ruined My Life' vids on youtube. There's no going back and starting over once you've done OF...your content is out there for LIFE.

[@audreyurquhart9057]

It’s insane the amount of girls I see coming out with such deep regrets!!

[@taybee4653]

I would say with OnlyFans once you start in that type of industry it is hard to pivot into another non-entertainment/influencer industry if you don’t make the type of money you want. Also, your reputation is forever tainted with the videos and images you put out.

[@DannMacDougall-wp2or]

I personally wouldn't do it. I worry for the future of these women's mental health when they are older and the impact of these choices land. I'm all for people making money, but realistically, the boom has already been and it's not easy bank.

[@gailainsley6939]

I truly believe that these figures are being over exaggerated

[@roxannekane6142]

Maybe I am a bit naive but I find it odd that so many men (and women) pay subscription fees for this. It’s really weird.

[@beewest5704]

Yeah I never once thought of subbing to a OF but so many do. I'm too stingy to pay to see anyone's @ss. 😂😂😂

[@Xenathewarrior83]

That!! 😑🥃

[@richarddebono7092]

Never mind about lighting. I'm just grateful to finally see a pretty girl using your brain instead of your looks. Well done. Keep inspiring others, the right way! Subbed.

[@MindyGail]

It’s not empowering to sell your body. It’s empowering to respect yourself and your body.

[@bew6332]

I’m a man and if one of my buddies ever tells me that he pays for only fans he is gonna be considered weird for it

[@Wa_Kanuna]

They wouldn't exist if there wasn't a market. Honestly, the women control what happens and gives me a sense peace for them. For years men blabbed up and down about sex workers as if they aren't the majority of consumers. Men are mad because they can't shame such women anymore because the women today refuse to be shamed by the very people who consume their content. Honestly, I'm happy for them. I hope those who are uncomfortable in those spaces have the strength and fortitude to leave. As for the rest, do what you have to, make wise money choices since it's not a long-term thing, don't be a slave to the lifestyle. As for the rest of the women, if you feel judgemental, you're valid, these are new and societal issues that were a taboo for the longest time, but I hope we remember that these are consenting adults and these creators are safer behind the screen than if they were to face their clients in person (serial killers targeted sex workers). They have autonomy and choice. To the women who could care less, more power to you. I wouldn't encourage anyone to go down that road, but I hope we are okay with be able to agree to disagree.

[@gauloise6442]

The Ukrainian owner is who controls everything, the women may make their choices in privacy, but he is exploiting them all the same.

[@Wa_Kanuna]

@@gauloise6442 you let the points go over your head. Don't do it again.

[@Amara53]

I love your comment.

[@coolchameleon21]

@@Wa_Kanunayour comment ignores the fact that p*mping and gr**ming are still extremely common with OF. it’s not all “autonomous”.

[@Wa_Kanuna]

@@coolchameleon21 exactly why the issue is ignored, I wasn't gonna bring it up. I'd need to be versed in the topic. Learn nuance and understand that not everyone is gonna comment fully on a topic cause then it won't be a comment, it'd be something like an essay.

[@TheHillsHaveDragons]

I genuinely feel like women who find sex work empowering are generally the victims of exploitation earlier in life. It’s self harming but they’re now in control. Doesn’t have to be R or SA necessarily, knew a girl who’s went into stripping because both parents loved her brother a LOT more and she was neglected and made into the workhorse.

[@melissagreye8445]

It is important to note the high profile women on Only Fans ( reality tv stars and actresses ) they are posting swimwear pictures. They are not doing adult content which is where separation is from others on that platform.

[@beewest5704]

Heard many do private requests where a man asks for a certain pic & they agree on a price. I also know of a actress who uses it to get clients as a high class escort.

[@Cassieshhhh-f4l]

The only thing you forgot to mention when bringing up that men keep buying it and accentually, if they didn’t buy it then less women would be doing it. Is - it’s still an addict-ion like other things! People shouldn’t buy pharmaceuticals off the street. _However,_ we don’t say that because they’re buying it, no wonder people are selling it because we understand that in a way, it’s not 100% their fault for their addict-ion and people are prosecuted for taking advantage of them by doing that! It’s just not seen as important/serious (for lack of a better word), when we’re talking about men (in general) and with their different vices that they have to give their brain that “I love this; I want more! *I NEED more!”* feeling. That is a *huge* component in this whole thing!

[@Gigi44_Bookworm]

Watching what is happening with Gen Z as a Gen Z’er I’m completely floored. I’m just out here researching/reading about economics and marketing while I take a break from doing my bachelors to focus on my health as I have a seizure disorder. I may even need to be on disability for a while because I have 3-5 seizures per day but I’ll still be out volunteering and doing charity work. I want to go and do a PhD in economics to work in the agriculture or energy industry as a business analyst. I can’t imagine taking off my clothes and exposing myself for money. I don’t want my future partner or children to find this sort of thing nor do I support this sort of work. I don’t personally believe that this industry adds value to our society or improves the lives of those in the industry or watching it.

[@Gigi44_Bookworm]

I’m ready to pick up and move to another country with a culture that values chastity and dignity to keep intimacy in marriage. I am Muslim so that does influence my opinion.

[@LotusesGalaxyOcean]

Good for you! Working as a consultant is much more flexible for health issues. I agree this does not help society and I am not pleased with it.

[@khadyadjisall5708]

@@Gigi44_BookwormI am muslim myself and I have witness firsthand the degeneracy in both western countries and Muslim countries. My biggest fear is the degradation of the family unity and the fact that children more than ever are being raised in this environment and their role models are influencers.

[@divinealchemy3078]

It keeps many lonely men pacified and comfortably numb so they dont start making problems for the economy. Men with unused sexual energy and all that dormant testosterone can actually cause a huge threat to a modern, stabile civilization, and since they have nothing to offer to women they end up single so this type of *work* keeps them sedated

[@sissepedersen1368]

What, do you want a cookie?🙄

[@baileykokay]

I’m glad people are talking about this; I’m sure a lot of us have contemplated it; I know I have. I almost fell for the money and the ability to be at home and for the idea that “well you give it away for free anyways” sigh.

[@mandyjohnson1275]

Porn and only fans content destroyed my marriage. It is unfortunate that women feel the need to have to do content like this, but it destroys families, individuals and psychologically messes up people on a long term basis

[@Amara53]

Are you placing blame on the OF models or your spouse? Your spouse is to blame for willingly consuming the content knowing how you’d feel. Not the cam models.

[@mandyjohnson1275]

@@Amara53 I'm placing blame on both sides

[@Amara53]

@@mandyjohnson1275I’m super interested in hearing why? Why blame the models?

[@mandyjohnson1275]

@Amara53 I didn't Blame just the models. I said porn and only fans. You better believe millions are involved in porn and similar industries that aren't the actual models or prostitutes.

[@angryotter9129]

People can do whatever they want with their bodies. It’s no different than any other gig economy situation. The majority of s*x workers don’t make more than the average person, but they prefer that job over others. The amount of judgement in here is pretty gross. It’s a creative job like selling art prints or doing commission that generally involves more physical and emotional labor. It’s just a puritanical social stigma that judges women specifically for doing something that men also do and yet no one says anything. What should be talked about is how platforms and studios feel confident underpaying actors and models and taking huge percentages and not giving royalties because our society hates s*x workers so much that it’s acceptable to ab*se their labor. OF takes 20%. That’s ridiculous.

[@coolchameleon21]

the problem is that it impacts how ALL women are viewed. we’re already objectified and s*xualized enough, this is just making it worse. there have been multiple studies proving that p*rn consumption lowers men’s empathy for women.

[@mango000mvy]

It is exactly as you said, the issue is complicated. I do not think it is fair to blame the women content creators on OF for putting this type of content out there. Men have blame women for causing them problems again and again for different issues now and in the past. I did not like how the interviewer at the end thought he was opening a discussion by trying to place blame on OF women. The real questions are 1) when is society going to take responsibility for educating young men and providing young men opportunities to make something of themselves, to be proud of themselves, that they wont even feel the need to watch OF content. 2) when is society going to create opportunities for women to make a good living, so that they wont need to use a platform like OF to make money

[@sarahwales6276]

Yeah it starts with the women, you can't create an only fans and blame men for paying to see it! There has to be some accountability. It's not Societies fault women are prostituting themselves, plenty of women are making great money in a dignified way.

[@mikeb7195]

Hard disagree--to me, this feels like a way to circumvent taking accountability for participating in a predatory industry. As a guy, I have no problem with OF creators, and don't consume it myself. But making a potentially "destructive" product and then saying "well, people consume it, so they are just filling a need in the market" doesn't really hold water if you apply that logic anywhere else. We don't blame drug addicts for the drug epidemic. We don't blame gambling addicts for the predatory casino industry. It's an industry that takes advantage of people's worst habits and encourages them to indulge. We shouldn't blame the individual women, but we also shouldn't encourage this stuff or try and mask it as empowerment imo. I do agree that this is a bad look for society at large, though, because women shouldn't feel the need to essentially prostitute themselves online to meet their basic needs. It's all quite sad tbh.

[@afswimmergirl]

OF gives me strong MLM vibes. People see the top 1% making tons of money, the rest of “creators” make nothing. Plus the top 1% is cyclical, unless you have a big organic following from social media pages bringing in new traffic your going to be old news in two months.

[@Gaius_Sinstone]

35:19 Adultery by men has been, not just accepted, but expected for literally hundreds of years. Is this directed at women specifically because, yikes.

[@carrino15]

Anyways these OF creators would be outsourced due to AI porn influencers.

[@DanielGarza-wd6wc]

A lot of the people who say these high figures lie. I’m not saying all but they just say these figures to pump up views. It makes people want to see what they are doing to earn such a figure. Some also bot their onlyfans. They reinvest the money they might have made in the previous months to shoot them to the top. So they can say .0001% onlyfans “model”. They get to the top pages of onlyfans which means more people looking at them. I don’t blame some of these women a lot have good reasons but some are just greedy. want a fantasy lifestyle seen by famous people post on instagram. Just delete instagram and be happy with yourself.

[@LostGirlAt22]

What are the options? Education girl, study well, strike for a good career, would be hard to get there but i believe its worth it... I don't think onlyfans is good for their mental health, no matter how much in denial they are... We can only just wait stories of these women regret in a couple of years from now...

[@Kelbel5995]

Beyond my opinion that I don't think sex work is empowering for women, I would never recommend women do OnlyFans because it's basically an MLM/pyramid scheme in terms of revenue distribution. These top creators--people who already have fame to bring in paying fans and the money for high production quality--are raking it in, while (as you said) the average creator makes LESS THAN $200 A MONTH. Right or wrong, creating adult content can torpedo your future career prospects...imagine throwing away a good job for one that nets you less than $2,500 a year. Plus, you have to consider what happens when the money stops flowing in, if you even do make it big. Is the ER nurse who is making millions setting herself up for retirement, or is she blowing it all on custom Porches?