The direct line is what Haviv Rettig Gur explained: The Palestinian cause is wrongly considered an anti-colonial war with the goal of escalation that makes the cost of staying unbearably high.... Jewish Israelis have no other place to go. It took me at least 25 years of trying before I understood it. . And Hitchens never did... maybe he never really tried. It is horrifying to be forced to live in a kill-or-be killed world, but, yes, it must be done... and it must be done while keeping the soul pure...which IS possible. The end game is to make the Palestinians and their allies understand that Jewish Israel is not going to disappear. Period. As to the future... remember the lesson that Judah was the only prominent leader in the Bible who openly took responsibility for his errors and made amends. Twice. Israeli leaders have to do this too. Absolutely brilliant: The second war of Israeli independence. And new types of relationship with the diasporas.
@cinnaminson06533 ай бұрын
How about back to New York?
@rajanikantmohan8408 ай бұрын
Daniel and Ross do a great job enlightening us on the state of mind of the Israel population. Awesome podcast. We can feel the pain. Great admiration for the people of Israel.
@diandenmark8 ай бұрын
And finally: Not every country in the West is committed to liberal democracy (think Hungary) ... while some non Western states (like Israel and India and Japan) are deeply invested in it. So this partcular war is between adherents of liberal democracy and the most vicious promoters of autocracy, currently defined as the axis of Iran, Qatar, Russia, China, and North Korea. Maybe Turkey, too, and the South American client states of Iran. Liberal democracies have to fight much "smarter" to avoid tearing themselves up from within... they need constant vigilance about very subtle, complex phenomena...
@willosee8 ай бұрын
Tremendous!
@TJ_USA7 ай бұрын
On two videos I've seen you mentioned there are two million Arab Israelis who live within Israel. But nowhere do you specify their citizenship status? I'm presuming they are Israeli citizens, right?
@helenezonana7 ай бұрын
Yes they are. Arab israelíes with full Citizenship
@gstv62568 ай бұрын
great show!!!
@MichaelPetek7 ай бұрын
If American Jews are afraid to send their children to college, there's good news. The Catholic University of Steubenville has put in place an accelerated transfer arrangement by which Jewish students can transfer from other universities to Steubenville, where they are assured of a safe environment where there faith will be respected.
@DanHowardMtl8 ай бұрын
An election is 2008? It's 2023! Where are the other elections there?
@Stardust4756 ай бұрын
Tom Nash has videos on post Gaza scenarios. His analysis is better than any other media for geopolitics Dan Schueftan is brilliant, too. No NATO or UN, it would be a disaster. Push through Abraham Accords, disband UNRWA, generational deradicalistion is necessary. Breaking up Gaza into cantons run by clans with their own police is a better idea. Family planning is an emergency there too!
@diandenmark8 ай бұрын
Why does Russ call Mizrachi Jews Arabs? Their roots are not only in Arab countries, but also Iran, Turkey, and North Africa. as far as I know, Israeli Arabs are non-Jews stemming from the Levant, mostly Palestine (the area so known).
@minimalistic_banhaus8 ай бұрын
It's pretty telling Russ is leaving out any Palestinian perspective in this series. No questioning of fundamental assumptions, and omissions made in telling the Israeli perspective.
@econtalkwithruss8 ай бұрын
Russ has asked a few Palestinians to come on the program, but has not heard back from them. (As of recording the latest episode.)
@jwithy8 ай бұрын
@@econtalkwithruss thanks for the update!
@mistymoor71146 ай бұрын
Show us the old videos of Gaza please when Israel pulled out !
@talathaque29048 ай бұрын
It's an existential fight for the Palestinians more than for Israel. You cannot see the irony of your arguments to justify what you do. I have always admired Jewish intelligence, but maybe when you operate out of fear one's intelligence is clouded. There is a complete lack of understanding of the Palestinian position and it's all about "me, me, me ......" Talk less and learn to listen more.
@patricksullivan43298 ай бұрын
The safest, freest place for an Arab to live in Palestine is within the borders of Israel.
@minimalistic_banhaus8 ай бұрын
@@patricksullivan4329 Right, Israel isn't bombing itself. Of course they're safer there!
@DrumsBah8 ай бұрын
@@patricksullivan4329I'm sure it's very comforting for the Gazans whose homes and families have been blown up to hear this. Parroting this statement has no substance until Israel is willing to take in the Palestian refugees it has created. Unsurprisingly, I don't see any Israelis advocating for that.
@sandytatham35928 ай бұрын
@@DrumsBah: I have heard an Israeli suggest offering them "residence status". That way they get equal civil rights but not national voting rights, something like the East Jerusalem Arabs have.
@helenezonana7 ай бұрын
You don’t understand the Middle East, at all.
@SP-nx8qx8 ай бұрын
I don't know if there was ever any other realistic alternatives to Palaistine for the Jews to go to, but that choice of place was fkn suicidal (or genocidal if we assume somebody else made that decision for them). I've always had sincere admiration for the Jewish people for the history, the resilience and the contributions to civilisation, but on this topic I'm gonna have to side with Hitchens: The zionist plan was a waste of Judaism. And now they're stuck having to do things that they're gonna have to fight to explain to themselves for the rest of their lives.
@helenezonana7 ай бұрын
Do you see any other alternatives? Have you seen the rise in antisemitism all over the world? That was the idea, that the land of Israel would protect them from world persecution.
@kofaraba83508 ай бұрын
@LopekJJJ. That is an extraordinarily ignorant post. You know nothing about Daniel Gordis (he is anything but a left-winger) and you clearly did not listen to a word he said
@patricksullivan43298 ай бұрын
To me, Netanyahu's position is almost the perfect illustration of the biblical statement: “A prophet is not without honor except in his own country, among his own relatives, and in his own house.”
@LOPEKJJJ8 ай бұрын
Why do you keep having these left wingers. Please interview a right winger. They’ve been warning about Gaza for years. Let’s hear their perspective on the conflict and solutions. Preferably someone from the national-religious camp that has a uniquely Jewish perspective. Enough with all these westernized guests.
@alrosano57867 ай бұрын
Ostriches!
@FlamingBasketballClub8 ай бұрын
49:00-50:00 If Iran is considered a external threat, then why does America have so much military bases in the Middle East Russ?
@PaulGrinderQueer698 ай бұрын
3rd conversation on EconTalk where the jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.