Front Wheel Drive Drift 🔥 Never Understeer Again

[@TSRB]

I just released a video on How To Tune Your Car For The Touge! Check it out kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6CkaXRtp6t0n80

[@xabussas1362]

Its impossible to drift a fwd car... for drift you need rwd.. the max you can do is slide cose for drift you need to be able to link corners... in the definition of drift it literally says rwd... have a good day xD hehe

[@TSRB]

@@xabussas1362 wrong

[@ok-vh1sh]

@@xabussas1362 ken block+ the sim racing bloke intensify

[@suspiciousstew1169]

Once those Civic owners know about this, they'll be able to achieve new levels of loud

[@jk8557]

4gen Civic sedan was amazing car to drift. Other nice cars to drift were last gen European Ford Escort GTI and Peugeot 205.

[@typer2909]

Don’t do this in a real civic lmaoo the physics are far from similar

[@PacMan592]

@@typer2909 My 2008 Civic Si drifts when I chuck it into corners

[@Anthonybrother]

@@typer2909 No it's actually like that, you just can't drift fwd.

[@Matias-dr3ys]

@@Anthonybrother yes you can, not like a RWD of course and not as long but you can definetly drift a FWD.

[@ZenDriver3299]

You talk about the issues that interest me most.

[@ZERO._.R]

That's what im thinking

[@ZenDriver3299]

@@ZERO._.R I don't know about you, but I think most Initial D fans end up being interested in this kind of stuff.

[@ZERO._.R]

@@ZenDriver3299 For me drifting has a potential technique to be fast , so im shocked that fwd can drift too 😂

[@ZenDriver3299]

@@ZERO._.R Yes, drifting is quite fast and in a way, it is also very practical.

[@king_sombrero8193]

@@ZenDriver3299 also *aesthetic*

[@nene3hunna]

When i use fwd or awd, i set my brake bias more to the rear, so i can correct the understeer when it happens. It makes trail braking harder tho

[@maynarddrivmester2224]

I set an Integra's brake bias toward the front all the way and adjusted on the fly using my foot and the hand brake. Worked wonders for low speed corners.

[@jawnnydoodlebob7387]

@@maynarddrivmester2224 that sounds like understeer hell

[@maynarddrivmester2224]

@@jawnnydoodlebob7387 no, I use the handbrake for variable balance

[@stephenfitzsimmons1752]

I usually do that too, it helps in corners but makes trail braking and transitions hell transitions

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

Just use the gas to overpower some of the front braking force.

[@noahyoos5491]

I normally don't drive FF cars, now I might have to try them out again

[@gakidomo9561]

I legit drift Ek9 for fun and ai’m somehow able to drift it nice lol

[@cyruslever586]

Get a awd. It's the same but better and actually fast

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

FF rally cars are great on slippy surfaces if you know how to left foot brake well.

[@marypoppinsm7]

@@cyruslever586 the problem it's that AWD or RWD cars are rare to get (at least in my country)

[@cyruslever586]

@@marypoppinsm7 what country do you live in that you can't just buy a subaru or audi or bmw?

[@Lucky30Eight_]

I've grown up driving ff cars almost exclusively. Personally I love the quick turn in and cornering that you get from a well setup fwd car. Fwd drift is a ton of fun as well, as long as you keep some space between you the guardrail...

[@hektorquest970]

Haha I crashed my first Car and Honda into a guard rail while trying to correct the back end winging out on me.

[@danieldifeo3699]

@@hektorquest970 I just did this last week in my Impala. Fun untill you need to fix it bumper and buy new taillight

[@Lucky30Eight_]

Not sure if trolling or just ignorant... You're drawing a distinction between powersliding and drifting, but powersliding is drifting. And then what you are describing as "convention drifting" is powersliding. Powersliding is using power to break traction and propel the car through a slide/drift. Drifting is simply any time your rear wheels slide in a controlled fashion to create oversteer. There are lots of different ways to initiate a drift, regardless of drive wheels. To think of one style as "correct" or "convention" is close-minded and wrong. Different cars + turns need different methods of approach. To say fwd cannot drift is uninformed, and to say the only way they can even attempt a drift is to powerslide is even more uninformed. Did you even watch the video you're commenting on? You might learn something if you give it a watch ;)

[@hopstr9606]

@@Lucky30Eight_ is this the comment you meant to reply to?

[@Lucky30Eight_]

@@hopstr9606 oh thats funny, there was another reply on this thread that I responded to. I guess they deleted their comment at some point.

[@AndreasReitz]

2:15 that example of understeer was the best footage I've ever watched .. well done

[@klo1679]

i actually had to use a fwd drift to prevent a crash recently, IRL, and this video really saved me arse. i had to get somewhere fast, and a very tight series of corners came up that i didnt realise were as tight as they were. trailbraking really saved the car, and remembering to be gentle on the brakes and throttle saved it. so thanks again for providing a tutorial indepth enough that it could be used irl

[@TSRB]

There seems to be some confusion about the difference between what a drift and powerslide is; "Essentially, a drift starts before the apex, while a powerslide starts after the apex. With a powerslide, you keep things tidy up until you hit the apex. Once there, you put the power down-which, in a rear-drive car with good power, can make the back end step out to varying degrees. In a drift, the slide starts much earlier. Your goal is to induce oversteer going into the corner, not on your way out-sometimes using a clutch kick or a tug on the handbrake to get the car sideways ahead of the apex. Any time you're oversteering before the apex, it's a drift. So now you know. And next time one of your friends incorrectly calls a powerslide a drift, or vice versa, you'll be able to point out exactly how wrong they are."

[@Tendruu]

As a someone that mainly drives FF cars (especially the EK9), this video is a blessing ! Thank you !

[@DrunkenMisu]

Ah yes the technique Shingo is good at

[@skylined5534]

Gumtape death match?!

[@namename8207]

@@skylined5534 crashing

[@_mrk347_]

@@skylined5534 GAMU TAPU DESUMACHE

[@chanhkhiemtran9010]

@@namename8207 C O O L V I B R A T I O N S

[@unclegraggy8104]

Your next video must go over the front wheel drive four wheel drift the FWDFWD

[@TSRB]

Oh dear, front wheel drive drift was already a mouthful xD

[@pain.497]

Something about FWD cars just hit different I love em

[@colapone1895]

I accidentally learned how to do this in the rain at 65mph holding light throttle in a slide after initiating it, essentially the car was dragging its back tires sliding, after I learned it I did it to work Every Morning when it would rain, and It was a 1999 Honda CR-V of All Cars to do it in, weight shifting was easy because the shocks were worn out

[@colapone1895]

@@danielnelson4881 I was doing it every morning to work when It would rain like it was muscle memory, I knew the car well

[@alexandermueller4115]

First gen CRVs handle way to well for what they are.

[@colapone1895]

@@alexandermueller4115 They are literally an EK Civic with a high roof and taller suspension, and they had Manual as an option, you can take the spare and put it inside so it Literally turns it into a second gen Civic Wagon looking thing, and its got a B series as standard, the top heaviness I think helps it toss around corners a bit

[@alexandermueller4115]

@@colapone1895 I rebuilt the suspension on mine to Oem standards, it was my favorite car I ever owned.

[@colapone1895]

@@alexandermueller4115 I had one on coilovers that was lowered to about Civic Ride Height on sticky tires with AWD, still could push it in the rain until the back end would Just barely break loose

[@jeypi__]

Still remembering the time how Takumi won against a Professional driving a tuned for touge Civic just because a cat crossed the street and the pro driver swerved.

[@darkninja9499]

when your car's spec list consists of ??? i mean that's pretty unfair r☠️

[@thebeaniestbeanboys5735]

Taco meme plot armor has no cracks. Between this and the God arm race it seems that if he is about to lose god himself will step in and say "nah"

[@thqne1058]

You should for sure upload some touge battles on assetto once your sim setup is fixed. I’m sure many people would enjoy watching them.

[@JuiceyBeverage]

He did but he deleted it

[@akkraineproduction8147]

Never played asseto corsa but your just entertaining to watch handsdown my man one day you’ll become the best asseto corsa guider

[@trezzz-3z]

Great video! Just as illustrative and clear as ever. Two questions, is that DDM's Type R? and, would you explain the inner wheel lifting on a video someday?

[@TSRB]

Thanks! Possibly

[@chopsticks7751]

I think this is the DDM Mugen EK

[@andresrodriguez623]

sheeesh is that tako

[@ntcnorskgaming8740]

As usual love your vids. Especially love the shopping cart example! Love how you explain the complex physics behind drifting and power-steering in such a dimple manner. Very entertaining!

[@mr.eervianlesmana9263]

i tried this on my minivan fwd automatic, and it works😉

[@brayannexon4613]

I need to try this on my cadillac deville someday.

[@mr.eervianlesmana9263]

@@brayannexon4613 😀👍

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

Noob car guys be like: “Oh, BuT yOu CaNt DrIfT wItH aNy VaN, oR fRoNt, FoUr, Or AlL wHeEl DrIvE cARs Chad car guys be like: *CAR IS CAR.*

[@mr.eervianlesmana9263]

@@TeenWithACarrotIDKExactly

[@imtableship1703]

My favorite memory in Forza 7 pub lobbies was divebombing a dirty lead pack in a hairpin to pull ahead with a handbrake drift in a Civic. Taking the lead with an actual drift when I'm a basic grip boi was amazing.

[@cat_4664]

Time to become Shingo

[@shizudozuked9090]

Daburu charshu ikoze

[@se1un_sky]

Well, as Civic racer from HS Racing Club i can say that FF drift only works in hairpins. In other turns it just slows you down, making the exit of the corner slow. Also, slip angle works in hairpins and long corners after fast corner, it helps you to save the stability of the car.

[@skumbag_industries]

I've done a fwd drift in real life it's a nice skill to have

[@king_sombrero8193]

Connecting doriftos on a skid plate hits different

[@iglooproductions]

In DiRT Rally 2.0 if you want to increase oversteer in fwd to the point that drifting is easy, you can simply adjust the front wheel differential, and soften the front springs / anti roll bar.

[@1oneguythat]

you want to make the front springs stiffer, and add deceleration lock. stiff rear anti roll bars. this kids not even drifting!

[@darkyzak]

Trail braking is very effective to initiate drift on any car since its transfer the load from the rear to the outer front wheel, tried it on sim game like granturismo 5 as well on my motorcycle. Weight shifting is key

[@MikeLaRock88]

The shopping kart example was really good.

[@thqne1058]

Thumbnails are awesome btw. They really catch your eye in the feed.

[@TSRB]

Thanks, I'm glad you noticed. Thumbnails are probably my favourite part of making videos xD

[@DomDriven]

thank you for this video i was convinced i was just bad at driving ff despite driving them for so many hours on so many tracks

[@CyarSkirata]

I was always terrible with front wheel drive cars, I really could barely corner in them, but after I first watched this video I became actually decent at driving them. The thing is, my racing style has always been very aggressive in the corners, throwing the car around pretty hard, and this video is what taught me how to do that in FWD cars.

[@gwc_garage]

I've always had fwd cars but I loved drifting so I taught myself how whenever it'd rain and eventually I found a nice oval gravel lot till I got brave enough to try it on pavement

[@rodzhd7844]

Shingo also uses the handbrake technique to eliminate under steer to make a better corner entry.

[@MrSaemichlaus]

Here in Switzerland, our shopping carts have all wheel drift capabilities.

[@brandonsutton9534]

Me watching these types of Videos, not for gaming, but in real life. I drive a 05 corsa shitbox, and hoon around all the time and power slide around corners using various techniques I learnt over the years .

[@scottgozdzialski6478]

I rally raced a civic for years in the San Antonio area. When I would drive around town in that car I would drift it all around town. It is such fun.

[@aabhas3784]

FF understeer is most commonly compensated for by using the handbrake method, reducing the stress on the front wheel

[@Drunken_Hamster]

Something not spoken of that could affect FWD handling, especially turn-in and understeer, is selecting/adjusting for parallel steering or anti-ackermann instead of the typical Ackermann steering arrangement. Also, if your rear end toes OUT on compression and IN on droop, then braking and lift-off will be more stable, but once you start the weight transfer and load up the side opposite to your turning direction, you'll essentially have rear-steer. I'm not saying this is ideal or that you SHOULD do this, but it's kinematically what WOULD happen if you had toe IN on droop and toe OUT on compression in the rear. Play with it, if you can.

[@OuterHeaven210]

Used to always argue with my friends and acquaintances about this. I pretty much had to have them with me to see the drift. Good times. Ford Focus Hatchback.

[@fliple48]

I made bet with my friend back in the days that you can drift fwd and stay fast with my 2000 focus. They laught at me and after few ride they got feared to ride with me again ahah lol

[@Damagic1]

I just got a ford focus hatchback tryna learn lol man I cant get my tyres to kick out though

[@alexlog1810]

i can watch these clean turns again and again

[@k11k49]

I hope to see a lift-off oversteer video soon, great vid!

[@sleepyedits4498]

Did lift off drifting irl and ended up in a fence and a tree not a good time.

[@jayklemmensen9141]

@@sleepyedits4498 I flipped into a ditch after turning 180 on the road😭

[@bigboysdream4222]

Even I master how to corner on track, drifting is still a thing which I struggle, thanks for the advice

[@liketocutg2590]

I think i might get a eg6 now for bumping experiment

[@lusciouslunk]

Thank you!! Been driving front wheel CRX recently and this video broadened my view

[@fatdan172501]

This is the reason the wrc 2 liter World Cup cars were so competitive and even putting faster time down on the tarmac parts of the stages.

[@Rafael-gy8ph]

I might buy a corolla and try this out, safely of course, keep up the good content. I would share the video but i have no friends :)

[@Jupiter__001_]

You mean a real Corolla or one in a game?

[@azhule4041]

@@Jupiter__001_ both

[@christopherjohnston6343]

Try it out on a low grip surface like gravel or grass first. You should be able to initiate it at slower speeds (like 40- 50kph).

[@axelgranzini6797]

That EK hatchback is my dream car…. 😍

[@Safewoood]

In low grip scenarios drifting is a LOT faster in fwd cars, pointing it towards the exit allows you to get on the power way earlier and it's a lot less awkward trying to balance acceleration and steering.

[@WanganTunedKeiCar]

3:44 Dunno man, that regular line seemed plenty *toight* to me

[@sirimosirimo]

Drifting is cooler doe

[@pinkyo293]

Didn't they take the corner completely wrong too?

[@BOBOTHEBANDIT]

Well done mate your channel has really blew up. I found your videos a few years ago when i started my channel. I new that your content was amazing and that you would really succeed mate. Well done from the bandit

[@susano7135]

Finally, someone who understands!

[@insquared1868]

when people say "fwd drift is impossible" i bet they think of the slow and constant show off powerslide drifting where rear wheels become cloudmakers

[@joncudiamat4491]

How does this guy not have 1 mill subs fr

[@jacqueszekian6954]

you mentioning wanting to reach 15k subs by the end of the year and seeing you at 93k now 2 years later makes me feel all warm inside

[@jakefidler6112]

Lift off over steer is the goat of ff and the most balsey, definitely should cover it

[@pandemik0]

Front wheel drive cars are actually fun if you know how to drive them. You can do some very stupid things and they are very forgiving. Skilled drivers can put on quite a show.

[@Tolmalion]

Fwd drifting is fun, I love sending my Mondeo wagon sideways. It always feels so silly yet satisfying to toss around family car like that 😀

[@wanaiman4604]

SSS tier channel the best method teacher

[@MakoTheUndead]

Since I only drive FF cars this is very helpful. Thanks for making this!

[@ethanbenton6676]

The fact this Chanel is at 11.8k subs is fucking mind blowing Smashing content dude! It won’t be long till those numbers start going wild

[@jackemeredith]

I think for many people it's a hard concept with sliding a FWD car, their initial reaction is to counter steer, but then it snaps back and you will end up spinning, which is especially scary in real life 😆 Once you get over that and know to pretty much point it straight and floor it you can enjoy FWD cars a lot more. Very informative video - I've subscribed :)

[@xypnosii]

S tier channel

[@TSRB]

Thank you 😅

[@nikomankinen5416]

In case anyone is wondering. This works in real world with a 2003 Civic ES! Tried them and they all work.

[@icebrew]

Okay now do a a ff slip angle video

[@OuterHeaven210]

Subscribed! Gonna try this out on my Honda CRX in Tokyo Xtreme racer drift 2

[@pepperpepsi5644]

Cheeky bonk at 7:32

[@YTFRCARS]

Well done video!

[@TSRB]

Thanks!

[@pashagesha]

Was there before premier

[@archiei40x]

As someone who likes fwd honda, I prefer the term 'a$$dragging or a$$sliding'

[@martibulgaria]

Yet another bangin video, great stuff

[@TSRB]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@fliple48]

Drift a fwd car can be easy for those who understand how to unbalanced the car with the brake. You can go more agressive on the brake to put all the weight on the front tire than turn the wheel a little the moment you feel the rear is light enought. Maybe for lot of people that sound crasy but with a little bit of practice you can understand it and be faster on a race track. Also setting toe out on the rear can make it easier. Hot hatch car in the late 90 early 2000 like the Focus or civic ek9 were pretty good at this. I learn a lot on those car back it the days.

[@GDP999-z1u]

Thanks for reteaching me something I taught myself how to do at 18 years old in a 1999 automatic fwd cr-v at 65mph in the rain on a backroad every morning with no abs or traction control, sorta forgot how to do it because speed limits are dumb and my parents don’t like me having fun while driving

[@domino-86]

I like watching the subtitles because of how the bot spells assetto corsa and touge. It’s epic

[@wassupdummy]

i gotta stop smoking bruh, im sittin here watchin this shit wit the brightness all the way down this shit look real as hell. i thought the driver was just fkn fire until you said ur sim was broken😂

[@MVGEN36]

Step 1. Build the lightest fwd ever

[@IcedSynergy]

I have only driven ff cars IRL so I find it alot more natural to drift a FWD car compared to anything else. For the life of me I cant get the hang of drifting a RWD

[@CrispyTurtl3]

I have a chevy sprint turbo and thid gave me some insight on how to have fun in it. Thanks!

[@callumbailey43]

*Cool Vibrations*

[@aminsiddiqui9456]

finally someone who understands

[@sim_1]

I’m definitely gonna reference this video a lot in the future when it comes to fwd driving techniques.

[@araybeezy1653]

more camber in the rear compared to the front helps fwd cars rotate as well.

[@JuiceyBeverage]

This outro banging

[@joeyholdren5970]

Man I hope theres a track editor for gt7 so I can actually use these😂

[@SailingFrolic]

Thank you for listening to me! ♥

[@kusee.]

Lovely EK right there 😎

[@kusee.]

Ps. Definitely more vids on FF platform!

[@briskboy]

I just recently found your channel, and I am loving your sim racing content! I really want a sim some day to try out these touge tricks you talk about in AC, because for me controller is no good. Like I can do certain things but it makes the game more difficult than it has to be. But man this videos are awesome, keep up the great work!!!

[@TSRB]

A wheel and pedals are definitely worth the money! Go for it

Shingo Shoji would be proud

[@ajh4244]

4:22 - first actual method

[@Cheseday]

Finnaly, i will drift my family car

[@MAKOS-ky5my]

YES DUDE

[@timppa1903]

This made me think that my maruti may be a good car after all

[@JeffReeves]

7:32 - This is an advanced technique called "マリオカートドリフト "

[@TSRB]

sick thank you

[@MGdrifts]

You forgot the most essential way. Lift off oversterr

[@DorfStalker]

I was about to say that aswell. Noone else mentioned it in the comments -.-

[@Jovane2707]

Thank you for helping put my theories into video format. Amzaninf content btw 🙌 ty KZbin recommended

[@johnthomson2377]

Ok, time to try this on my 2006 Corolla.

[@BeamerWeamer]

did it work? wanna try this method but idk if it was patched

[@frojdpojken1214]

Shingo is listening

[@2GE4EV]

*In short: front-wheel drive cars when entering the corner increase the gas pedal to increase stability and do not pedal the brakes inside the corner because it will reduce the control of the steering wheel*

[@misterjersey5460]

(Daiki Ninomiya Intensifies)

[@TheCptnOfFail]

Well I know what I am trying while on lunch tomorrow. Wish my tires and brakes luck.

[@gergoantal1066]

As someone who mostly drives the EK9 and the DC2 Type Rs, EG6 and a Mazdaspeed 3 on touge I really appreciate this video! Thanks for thinking about us FWD hooligans too haha 😊

[@Mika-ph6ku]

Aight bet, gonna go drift my 2011 accord IRL on some windy County roads.