Top 10 Fastest Cars on the Touge

What are the fastest cars to brave the mountain passes of Japan in real life? Today we find out! - Top 10 Fastest Cars on the Touge
I really enjoyed making a video on the Story of Time Attack and Under Suzuki ( • The Story of Time Atta... ) and the supportive comments it received got me thinking of what else I could look at - so this time I wanted to move away from the track and look the fastest cars for carving mountain roads, or touges as they're known in Japan.
This form of illegal racing was highlighted in the anime/manga Initial D. I really enjoyed the show, but it always made me wonder which car really would be the fastest in real life. Best Motoring's Hot Version has given us some great insight into what makes a Touge Monster of the years (or Maou as the called the top dog) and this list represents the research (binge watching) I did on their videos to try to compare the fastest sector times. There are still a lot of what ifs and cars that haven't had a chance or didn't want to risk it, but I found it really interesting what cars excelled on the winding downhill roads. I hope you enjoy the video half as much as I enjoyed making it, thanks for watching!
Music:
Fly me to the moon and back - Initial D
Set Me Free Again (Extended)

[@teertaa]

some facebook friends i met from a japan once raced a silvia in a touge with his sports bike. To everyone surprises, both of them are beaten by a random delivery guy driving a daihatsu kei car. Too bad he forgot the name of the car

[@HuntersMoon]

That's a great story! I have a soft spot for the first gen Daihatu Copen, unfortunately I don't think I could fit in one haha

[@vc7855]

maybe a charade gtti?

[@mrworldwide2722]

Daihatsu Mira / cuore

[@username8878]

I think f1 car quicker

[@cristhanos9392]

Daihatsu Mira kei B O X

[@kisbalintkirill4443]

I own an MRS with a 2ZZ. This car is a killer in the corners, with the right setup the snap oversteer is easily avoidable.

[@ghostboyavo8128]

Bro I had one abs I sold it I hate myself for tgat

[@karelpgbr]

@@ghostboyavo8128 I had an Alfa Romeo Giulia, Squadra Bianca style, I sold it for a tad too little and I too hate myself for it.. But hey, life isn’t fair

[@djpollo2474]

@@ghostboyavo8128 I had a mk3 supra targa top turbo manual and I sold it... many people have the same story but you know what, we grow and learn from that so next time we sell a car we actually think about thoroughly.

[@geginnyosz25]

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[@Adrenadriven7]

does the stock Mrs have snap oversteer too?

[@mr.mercury4247]

'Don't try this at home' the mountains of rural VA have some stories to tell about me and my 100hp FWD blasting down them as fast as we could. 😅

[@morg7736]

Hell yeah I'm in Virginia as well blasting around in my prelude

[@jonathancrewe8019]

Hey man, I got the notifications for your replies, but can’t actually see the comments for some reason ??? The white prelude I spoke of is mine lol, and I’m out of Asheville, NC. Some of the greatest roads in the country out here, especially for lighter smaller cars. we’re really lucky.

[@milk_420]

me in a busted ass civic

[@humzaaaa]

i live in northern virginia the back roads here are fun too in my 91 miata!

[@hoonicycle5830]

Rip my EP3, you're still the car I have the most air time with

[@philippemanuel9575]

Would agree with list but also want to add that before J's and Feed, Re-Amemiya ruled as the best touge king beating and defending against the ones listed.

[@gategaming959]

RE Amemiya... what a legend tuner plus Keisuke FD3S in Initial D 4th stage and 5th stage was mod with RE Amemiya...!!!

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

I'm glad someone mentioned Amemiya Most people forgot about it

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

Apparently there was some personal problem between Tsuchiya and Amemiya leading to him quitting the touge battles

[@gategaming959]

@@ArtVandelayOfficial I didnt know about that... I thought Tsuchiya and Amemiya was a good friends...!!!

[@kyshro]

Completely agree the best 2 Touge Maou cars are the J’s Racing S2K & Fujita Engineering FD3S 👍🏻

[@zmz9961]

you don't have to agree, the times speak for themselves lol

[@JA-lg3tl]

@@Ib-dj6di that’s exactly what I said you mong

[@cristhanos9392]

The Thecno Pro Spirits MR-S is also up there. With 200hp, you can only go so fast

[@thepathtowudang]

I think the current Maou is the Assist M4

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

Amemiya FD is the ultimate

[@elliotjohnson7552]

criminally underrated channel

[@ghostppk]

This Hot Version videos are legendary. I would love to see how this cars compete against European Hillclimb cars. Both Touge and Hillclimb have a tradition of cars being purpose developed for years.

[@i6y155]

Theres an m4 on the channel

[@Incendia]

Great video, great cars. But the Seeker FD2 has to be one of the most special cars on the touge simply because they took the hated FF and menaced all but 5 faster cars. The kind of balance you need to build into a FF chassis to be faster than so many MR and FR cars is a next level of work.

[@ganleyyy]

I'm pretty sure the seeker EG was faster then the FD2 but can't seem to find the times

[@patrykniziaek700]

@@ganleyyy eg was slower and had problem with understeering ang braking. Fd2 is a King of Civics if they're with stock interior etc.

[@elykus793]

i miss when the RE Amemyia RX7s would show up and clean house, RIP

[@Pheo0811]

What happened to it

[@KouKal01]

Js racing S2K was the biggest reason why I own one today. Its my dream car and an amazing piece of art and machinery.

[@nomenbeb5747]

great video, the only thing I want to say is that yes Gunsai it's a touge but it's not like the others, most togue have big downhills (or uphills if you strat from below) while Gunsai has some parts in downhill but many others in uphill where the engine it's even more important.

[@theMountainPassMonkey]

In my area most mountain passes are actually pretty leveled with small inclines and declines throughout like gunsai. I only know of one pure downhill and uphill mountain pass in my area.

[@HuntersMoon]

Thanks! And I agree - the info to make this list is taken from a small sample size and a very short sector from a single touge. Maybe one day it would be interesting to look at a different touge of sorts that is equally well documented, like Pikes Peak or something...

[@steffenschlepphege7931]

Amazing video , you perfectly managed to bring up the tension and made fever with the drivers , my personal favorite always has been the feed rx7 and it’s just amazing to see the precision driving and the results !

[@StavTech]

You’re my new fave channel. All of your “summoning salt but for cars” videos are top notch, love them and can’t wait for more. Keep it up

[@sancheznish8285]

I found your channel earlier today and have watched nothing but you since, subbed right away, I have made it my mission to like every video you’ve made, you really do deserve it! Please keep making content just like this and I’ll keep supporting in any way I can! This is the exact content I need, much respect brother

[@bmwm34]

dude, you‘re videos are awesome! liked and subbed right away.

[@jacpia96]

I'm so much in love this stories. Great content Moon!

[@hillclimbracingfan5821]

Well explained and beautifully put together.Fantastic job.

[@romanolahom7692]

You really struck a chord with us car enthusiasts with your videos hope to see more of your awesome videos about car culture keep it up man !!!!!

[@oloid51]

As an MR-S owner, I'm really happy seeing one be so dominant on the touge. Yes the car factory is underpowered, but even so it is too damn fun. I would highly suggest buying one, just make sure the precats are either dealt with already, or they haven't started killing the engine when you buy it. It's the only issue they really have, as even stock, I've oversteered once, that was in the rain, and on purpose until my lack of experience caused it to snap back. Still saved it tho. Crazy fun little cars.

[@notchhill2690]

Incredible video, thank you for your effort in putting this together.

[@axuriffgaming]

Awesome video! I've always loved Initial D, JDM cars and touge runs. Just subbed 💥✌

[@4EverSuzuki]

Great video I have been watching these videos for years. For me though the techno pro spirit car is a bit of an anomaly, just goes to show tuning and the right platform is sometimes more important than thousands of dollars in parts.

[@SimracerKlausi]

Amazing work🎉

[@JP-gd1ln]

Loving your channel & the videos you've been making. I'm thankful you seem to care about giving the culture & individuals involved the credit they deserve. I'm even more thankful you didn't botch the videos as many non Japanese and or non-die hard JDM enthusiasts have done in the past. As your first 2 videos cover 4 of the most important subjects in my adult life: Tsukuba circuit, time attack, touge, & hot version at first i was just thankful that you did these subjects justice with detailed and accurate information & the passion of a true enthusiast. Now watching both videos back to back I'm very impressed & thankful for what you are doing, putting information that took me years to obtain downsized into 2 short videos while still being detailed and capturing the spirit of time attack & touge w/ short clips from numerous videos to tell the stories well. Making consumable sized videos of historically challenging to attain longer video in a manner that will hopefully help form the next generation of JDM tuner enthusiast & keep the culture & industry alive & well for as many years as possible

[@HuntersMoon]

Thanks for the thoughtful comment, JP! That really means a lot, I'm trying my best out here haha

[@JP-gd1ln]

@@HuntersMoon top notch so far keep it up

[@HikiOmo]

"Touges are for hachirokus" yes, yes they are.

[@retrophil8241]

Deadly video. Suggestion would be for a in depth story on NO GOOD RACING Osaka

[@iv6ix800]

Sick video keep it up man, earned a sub

[@almer8757]

Great video this explains alot of the cars popular in touge and why they are so great

[@4thImpulse]

Incredible coverage! Earned a sub for sure.

[@limsunjetlin7453]

Nice, i do play initial d too. This is the far more the best simple story for real life initial d battles. Love it ❤️

[@pradapapa7032]

Super dope video bro! Keep this up forever, very well explained

[@UncleRJ]

There are so many beautiful things when it comes to the touge cars. One, the top fastest cars are not even modern cars, yet outperform them. Two, the best part yet, they are keep getting faster and faster even though they are already so damn fast!

[@endlesstwisties]

There were other tracks for Touge also. I remember Jun Prelude winning under 280 class. And Amuse S2000 fighting in other final with J's Racing being equal. Those cars were better than half of this list

[@TheRealGotay]

Your channel is what I needed. I've ran out of car stuff that catches my eye. I've watched all of Hot Version, Initial D, read MF Ghost, Nitro Rally, F1, etc. Your channel is a breath of fresh air.

[@georgealoupas6988]

You should watch the WRC. Great action with what I think are truly the best drivers in the world 🙂

[@gibsonisthename]

You don’t have any idea how much I appreciate this video

[@stiliqn007]

dude, these vids are great. Please do keep doing them.

[@corex72]

Dude thankyou for this channel.

[@bbdetailing9123]

Great video and narration. Shared it.

[@tabryis]

this is a masterpiece of a vid.....please keep up all your hard work!

[@Hipsters_N_Hippies]

5:20 well the brake issue that he was talking about could’ve been fixed with either a longer or a wider set of brake hoses for the rear. The added overall volume would have taken a slight portion of the pressure away from the rear. Enough for the fraction of a second that he was talking about.

[@DocDucky]

Dude. Ive never even though of the length/ diameter of brake lines. That makes sense, if theres more fluid theres more adjustability/ delay from braking force and if theres less then its snappier and more rapid.... interesting.

[@Hipsters_N_Hippies]

@@DocDucky yes, that plays a role. however It’s not only the amount of fluid. It’s also the expansion of the material holding it. More rubber = more expansion (the complete opposite idea of steel braided hoses)

[@DocDucky]

@@Hipsters_N_Hippies shit i just learned something important. Ive been trying to figure out what brake setup imma use in my 88 a70 but now im definitely not only going to keep rotor/ caliper size in mind but the hoses and their material too.

[@Hipsters_N_Hippies]

@@DocDucky a larger brake caliper with a larger piston or multiple piston brake calipers also require a larger volume of liquid to move the same amount of distance. So they also had to make brake master cylinders that can move more fluid out. I could keep this conversation going for a while. And even show how to get more Whp and acceleration with certain brake modifications. Lol There is so much to it....well everything with a car. EVERYTHING has an equal and opposite reaction.

[@DocDucky]

@@Hipsters_N_Hippies hell yeah especially since there's some brake setups that arent even oe or close. For example im doin the s500 4 piston brembos, with either a stock master cyl and 350z rotors. So that setups gonna be pretty odd especially since thats only the front.

[@Joesorr324]

I just found your videos and had the profound urge to comment with the following because you sir dare to.... make the best car culture content I've ever seen.

[@ipo7596]

Look how smooth that FD is at the end with the splits view with the Js. Damn both are helluva machines.

[@Bad_handle]

Grade A content!!!!!! Keep it going you’ll be 100k subs in no time!!!

[@Thedavidsavage]

Really liked the dual screen shot at the end. EPIC Battle

[@DavidLopezcruz08]

Finally a video about best motoring!! I’ve been watching their battles for a while now and I rarely meet anyone who knows about them

[@sharkparty1027]

Thank you for getting me up to speed on Gunsai!

[@1607trojan]

This was way more interesting than I thought it would, very fun and entertaining.

[@tezzasaurusrex]

Love this presentation of maou. Thanks 🙏

[@mach1mustangguy992]

I rly did enjoy this video! How FN cool man!

[@williamfullman2639]

Just found your channel time to binge watch and subscribe

[@gaelmutombo7754]

Respect for this presentation 💯🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@kella5338]

Love the video, the mr-s isnt my favorite car at all but its performance on the touge is outstandig and the real mvp when it gets to the real initial d spirit. Nearly no mods and a huge performing beast on the down hill, just cause the perfect balance of the car and the high performing driving skills. This is real initial d! AND complete mindblowing that those two rx7s ran the exact same time, absolute crazy. xD!!! Love it man.

[@binskee677]

It was a S2000 and a RX-7 not two arX-7‘s …

[@eu4iya]

great video my man, you just earned a big subscribe from me

[@overtaken55]

really good video, good job.

[@BpgaMusic]

i take my 2001 corolla to the mountains and surprisingly i can keep up with sports car. feels good!!!

[@prod.kidmizu]

Same with my Prius 🤣😂 people are surprised I can keep up

[@izzy031096]

Is it 2zzge?

[@einekleinenatchmusik9011]

@@izzy031096 no, 2zrfe, mine was 2012 Corolla with 6 speed manual

[@NeillWylie]

I owned that model of MR2 for a few years. Really really taught me how to drive. Corners so hard!

[@boostacross1671]

Keep these coming!!

[@Farpee59]

Absolute banger just found your channel and I'm almost done with your channel can't wait for more

[@thisisntsergio1352]

Wow I had no idea that it was even possible to get the same exact time. That fact alone is amazing and such a great story.

[@mr.sauvage330]

Another great video!

[@PanicOutFun]

Awesome video!!

[@euan1974]

This video was awesome!

[@larry_ellison]

Why is this the best video ever made? Thanks dude

[@HuntersMoon]

Haha thanks Fin! Glad you enjoyed it

[@scottmoore1556]

Thanks for the great video

[@Jacod-rw2oy]

favorite channel!

[@logwind]

nice summary. love the s2ks and FDs.

[@styre]

Bro your content is tops

[@almostlastplace]

I love the techno pro spirit MR-S so much, it gave me new found appreciation for the 3rd gen mr2 as a racing platform. Definitely need to build up my girlfriend's mr2 someday haha.

[@platzhirschtv4770]

Topnoch Topic to cover . Awesome. Great Edeting and Picture Choice. Keep it up.

[@HuntersMoon]

Thanks Platz, I really appreciate it!

[@platzhirschtv4770]

@@HuntersMoon you can call me Hirsch.Platz Hirsch means word for word " Place Dear" ( the chef ). So u cald me place. 😅 Can't imagine how long you collected all the footage and edit and voiced it. Probably alone. Really amazing to me. Some day we all get old, and you sir can look back of somthing really amazing. Thank you.

[@jorgeadames1245]

Love this top 10. I never assume some one would make this lol. 👍

[@pizzza5452]

Awesome video

[@ohanapaco4925]

watched the vid all the way thru on accident planned on doin somethin else lmao. good content bro

[@HuntersMoon]

Haha thanks!

[@goncalolourenco6989]

Really enjoyed the video, even though I knew most of the stuff the narration and presentation were very nice. Btw do you know if there's a way to get best motoring issues with English cc as soon as they release or do you also wait for them to be available on their channel?

[@Josh15611]

Great video

[@thg_garage]

Amazing videos

[@hellfire08]

Great videos

[@charleslaull2602]

Love this video!!!!!

[@mach1mustangguy992]

I’d love to see a Foxbody or sn-95 or new edge mustang with the “aluminator” engine…all aluminum DOHC 32v V8 with the independent rear suspension, they are light and with the right steering rack they would hurt a lot of feelings out there

[@KandiStomper]

Found this randomly and am realizing i already have theses dvds but i dont mind giving the channel an extra view. :)

[@mattvang3439]

I don’t get why the rest of the world are so surprised when a Honda Civic is fast on a track. Seems like the Japanese only give them the credit they deserve. All these people crying why is an SiR civic costs more than their beloved Skyline gtst’s

[@alamarrumedia]

I’m not into this and i’ve never seen initial d even though i hear about it all the time, but man it’s awesome to hear my car and my dream car tied perfectly in the top 2, and to hear an s2k takes up two spots in the top 10 brings a smile to my face.

[@x1tekja]

All great cars and to see the spirit and resolve to do the best by these teams brings a whole new level of inspiration to the sport.. if I could pick a favorite it would be the FD with that rotary however the market is premium price and I don't see that changing. The MRS is the most atainable and arguably the best price for the level of enjoyment you can get from it.

[@dreazi2018]

insane vid thanks u

[@m4rvinmartian]

*Thanks! This was a great story.*

[@LRSNRCNG309]

I wish theyd do it every year, and i wish it wasnt so hard to find these cuz they have all these uploaded in no consistent order at all

[@NepuRhythme]

Weirdly enough, the weight reduction on that 86 seems just as expensive as a turbo or supercharger. If those are carbon fiber doors, trunk and hood, those can be as much as 4 to 6k if you get them all in one purchase. But then again you can still maintain the reliability of your engine since it's untouched (except for the tune)

[@unitoftemp]

That uphill braking zone dropping down into the long left hander. Make it or break it and 9 times out of 10, I stuff it into the wall because I brake too late.

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

I've been watching Hot Version since the late 90s This video gave me goosebumps thankyou 👏

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

@Ol Scarface himself hmm? What do you mean

[@wakaiiofficial]

i love this channel

[@SR22VET-S15]

One of the best touge cars ive had was an EM1 Civic coupe that had a Frankenstein K24 bottom end with EP3 type R head and EP3 type R lsd gear with full bolt ons making 250whp. Had a catalogue of adjustable arms, coilovers wearing 17x8 235 semi slick tyres. I would have loved to be in Japan so that DK, Orido and Nob could have tested it out

[@ExecutiveAutomotiveSociety]

May we use some of your footage to for a video Short about Touge?

[@JolteonRacer]

Notes, the timed runs are done by rolling start While the touge battles are standing start, which is why the AE86 is super fast during the timed runs!

[@nnoxx1935]

The demon king has been my favorite car for a long time and ive always wanted to tune up an s2k to be like it

[@MrMarshy123456]

Great video however I believe your wrong about J's S2000, when it ran it's fastest time it was still only 2.4 litres, next time we see it on hot version it will be 2.7 litre capacity, so they are bringing more but so is Mr Fujita who has said ( on hot version again I believe ) he's got a bit more in the FD so the next meeting between these two hopefully is going to be even better !

[@KotomiP]

As much as I love watching Hot Version and other Best Motoring videos, they are quite narrative driven, ie Japanese manufacturers and aftermarket companies who support and sponsor the show are the stars of the show, and they will occasionally include foreign cars to spice things up a bit, but usually with half baked driving effort if they are very potent cars. If the entry of cars were not limited, and if there was no bias, this Touge lap time list would be absolutely dominated by cars like hill climb beasts (yes they would be effective downhill also) and prepped 2-Eleven or cars like that.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

lol it was very apparent they were biased against the amg gt but it serves them right for supporting the dogshit r35 nismo instead

[@KineticRhyme]

So that's why I kept seeing those two cars in my recommended at some point... Thanks!

[@renzcustodio2042]

Most people misinterpret touge racing. The show BEST MOTORING only the glimpse of what is the real touge racing. The real touge is not that short touge racing are all about endurance, the balls to drive fast without caring about your life, control, handling, the advantage of lightweight cars and last is not spunning out your car. Imagine driving your car in those steep corners. That's why lightweight cars is an advantage in the touge. These statements are also based from D.K Keichi Tsuchiya himself, mentioned that he beat the crap out of those GTR, SILVIAS you name it and relevantly talk about the advantage of lightweight cars many times in the youtube channel called "CAR PRIME"

[@mega4507]

a mr-s is definelty one of my dream cars

[@Louganda]

Look good with Porsche body kit

[@tarmac4220]

i think nissan pulsar gti-r would be a great addicion to this list. the sr20det engine, the light body, and the AWD system straight from r32. its handing is great on corners, so it should step aside mr2 or 2000k

[@DawudSeni]

The roles that the drivers and tuners play in this real touge competition reminds me a lot of wangan midnight's writing. The tuners keep making cars that are fast and let the skilled main characters duke it out.

[@dudocaine]

That's how professional racing works. From Nascar to F1, a team of engineers work on the car and tune it to fit the track they are racing and their driver's style and needs.