Apple is RUINING the iPad -- here's how to SAVE it.

The iPad event showed us one thing- Apple is slowly ruining the iPad. How can we save it?
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[@rishinarang9966]

Here is what I would do: iPad Pro (1099) - 13 inch only, a low tier m4 with 8gb ram where one of the p cores becomes an e core and peak performance is limited which can be more efficient and get better batterylife, the normal m4 (200 extra), mac os, the rest of the specs are the same but it comes with a pencil pro included and the folio case is a 200 dollar upgrade. Also ram and storage are upgradable individually so you don't need get 1tb for 16gb. iPad Air (549) - 11 inch and 13 inch (699) , single layer oled, 90hz, 8gb ram, a18 pro chip for better battery life,normal iPad os, pencil or pencil pro, rest of specs same, but the folio case should be 200 dollars and not 349 dollars. iPad Mini (399) - Same Size, but with single layer oled, 90hz display, a18/a17 chip, and support for both pencil and pencil pro, rest of specs same iPad (349) - Same size, 60hz lcd, a18/a17 chip, apple pencil and pencil pro support, the rest of the specs are same Also the normal apple pencil will have mostly the same specs but it should finally get the magnetic capability instead of the idiotic USB-C butthole charging. Thats my take what do you think fpt?

[@RWBHere]

I'm disagreeing with you on one level: The iPad range is pretty good, and way better than any Android tablet that I've seen. In fact, 3 of the past 6 Apple devices I've bought have been iPads. This iPad Pro does everything I need it to do, and if It needed replacing today, I'd buy the new model. The problem is that people often try to compare them with MacBooks or iMacs, when they should be regarded as a discrete device, designed to do what it does, and to do it well. By and large, it succeeds admirably. I agree with you about the iPad Air, however. And the iPad Mini should also be addressed by Apple, because its form factor makes it perfect for a pocket-sized tablet, in contrast to the larger models. I'd say make it slightly smaller, if anything. That would leave it much better than the discontinued iPod Touch. Yes, the OS needs sorting out, firstly by giving it more capability for running multiple active apps simultaneously, giving it the capabilities of a MacBook. And it definitely needs to move away from being locked to a Mac in order to add multimedia to Music. Early versions of iTunes were pretty good, but Apple gradually crippled it by removing really useful features, before leaving us with the mess today that is Music. In particular, I hate the fact that media cannot be transferred to it easily from other apps, and that other apps cannot access the music library directly. To me, there's only one big hardware deficiency with all iPads: They need a second charging/accessory socket. Wifi is fine for some functions, but it really sucks in a busy environment, so a physical connection becomes essential. I often connect an SSD to this iPad, to transfer large files quickly when wifi is not available or inadequate for the task. If I want to recharge the battery at the same time, then I have a problem, and resorting to using a hub is untidy, prone to accidental disconnection and inconvenient in that situation.

[@thomask5434]

Jokes aside, the problem with IOS and the PRO is fixed in the European versions, sideloading via other stores, browsers with their own engine, thats the minimum. You cannot call a professional system pro, that is working on a system that has so many borders limiting the system like this. Heck, i cannot even install all the software i would need to develop software. d its not very much. Its fine software, but its very

[@Allthephones]

I think iPadOS can be fixed by having macOS based system and iPadOS interface when no keyboard is plugged in and full macOS optimised for iPad when a keyboard is plugged in

[@slamp3844]

@@Allthephoneswoaw, this actually is a good point.

[@Caoimhin777]

“For artists, creatives, professionals that need to do casual work…and Sam Kohl” 😂 ☠️

[@anony_meows]

a casual device that they're not willing to let go of the "pro" pricing. lol.

[@driver8703]

Didn’t Steve Jobs say something like this better to canniblize your own products before someone else does it? It’s time for the iPad Pro to take that step.

[@eclecticaro]

As far as we know Tim The Accountant soon iPad will have Ultra Pro Max Ultimate Plus M20 chip.. and still on kidsOS and 1mm thin to save on battery cost and $1k repair charge after bending that sheet;)

[@StrykeSZN]

Jobs is rolling in his grave

[@SluzbeniMobi]

Stevitza said: Fugg the customer

[@Nightball12]

I truly believe that jobs would be radical enough to kill the macbook, except for the pro, and push ipad to be a real computer.

[@frieren848]

@@Nightball12 Completely agree, he was never shy about totally reinventing markets and by the end of his working life he did sound like he was getting tired of regular computers.

[@mippersthecat5170]

Ever since the M chip came out in the first iPad Pro, I've been saying my dream Apple device would be an 11-13 inch MacBook-like device with a detachable screen. It should run macOS when connected to the metal keyboard and iPadOS when detached.

[@ahhmuntea]

This is it

[@Bxu021]

That sounds better than just having MacOS replace iPadOS on the iPad.

[@emm4148]

@@Bxu021 and it would give people a genuine reason to spend the $350 for the Magic Keyboard instead of an off brand one

[@condejavy]

Samsung did it with DEX its a wierd combination of android mixed with windows and it works! Its really handy if apple does something like it in the pro line im in!

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

​@@emm4148Logitech makes better iPad keyboards than Apple does.

[@DatTruckinGuy]

This makes sense. Get rid of the Air name, but not the specs and build. Call it just the iPad. If people want a cheaper version of it, the IPad Mini.

[@JoshyMW]

the mini has always been more expensive lol

[@EverythingFitz]

I mean they basically got rid of the Macbook standard and just used the Air as the base model. But you are right, it does'nt make sense to make an iPad generation when it's the exact same as the iPad Air

[@NileshR12]

Or they could rename it to the Plus model bc of hot it builds on the 10th gen iPads

[@mwitchb]

People who want to watch KZbin on bigger screen don’t need iPad Air. Or iPad mini. They need the basic iPad.

[@DatTruckinGuy]

@@NileshR12 True, but it still leaves 4 models available instead of 3. Wouldn’t consolidating the iPad and Air be better for Apple and the consumer?

[@gustavopolanco6925]

Don't make it thinner, just put a bigger battery.

[@yellowdrangon]

TOO MUCH SENSE! OFF WITH UR HEAD!

[@wingandhog]

A replaceable battery would be even better

[@aleph_1ne]

Batterypossible isn’t as catchy as Thinpossible 😱😱

[@dereka5310]

@@wingandhogI need you to be realistic right now... a replaceable battery... On a tablet...

[@wingandhog]

@@dereka5310 … I know, huh? Who would have thunk?

[@John-Smith02]

Please upload later. I need to mow the lawn.

[@OmniKoneko]

I hope you mow it well!

[@TheTrueCollector735]

Get that boy real short

[@John-Smith02]

I finished mowing the front lawn at a level 4 and the backyard with deeper grooves at a level 3.

[@emilsecker7881]

So watch it later 🙃

[@divieee]

​@@John-Smith02 Did you do a bend test?

[@BlueFlash25]

Tim Cook watching this: “iPhone Air!? Write it down!”😮

[@ekjotjpg]

You’d be surprised at how popular the iPad Air is in universities - we students prioritize having the cheapest possible option for an iPad with a great writing experience - which is the iPad Air. Unless the base model iPad gets Apple Pencil 2 support (and a laminated display would be nice too I guess), the iPad Air is going to be necessary in the lineup.

[@GarrusVakarian-to2uh]

so put a slow CPU in the normal iPad, the iPhone CPU in it, but upgrade the screen and pencil support

[@ekjotjpg]

@@GarrusVakarian-to2uh basically, yes - unless WWDC this year actually unveils any game changing software experience that requires an M series chip.

[@emm4148]

@@GarrusVakarian-to2uh the line up is perfect rn in my opinion

[@Jacorywoohoo]

So you mean to tell me that the iPad Air is popular not because its a great product but its because people have no choice but to get that because it's either get a handicapped iPad for $500, an iPad Air that pretends to be an iPad Pro or just chuck out $1500 and get the iPad Pro?

[@failuretolaunchdrums]

the iPad Air should just be renamed iPad. It is the better of the two.

[@LoopyChew]

Now that Basic iPad is finally on the 2018 industrial design, I'd agree: consolidating iPad Air and iPad makes sense. I really do hope they update the mini with a new chip.

[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

Latest iPad now has USB-C.

[@theproblem9938]

@@JasonTaylor-po5xc the previous 2022 m2 pro did to, did the previous iPad Air not have it ?

[@nylotical]

@@theproblem9938 all iPads with the all-screen design have usbc.

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

That's a terrible idea. Currently, ipad mini gets the most years of software support because they skip hardware updates to it. 10 years of support is awesome because it will not slow down until much later.

[@LoopyChew]

​​@@theproblem9938I'm pretty sure the commenter was referring to the iPad iPad, for which 9th generation was still lightning and was still officially on sale; as of the event the 10th generation (the "latest iPad") is the new "cheapest iPad" and so by default has USB-C.

[@Workaholic42]

So funny to say that the iPad mini „is the iPad Steve Jobs intended“ when in fact he hated the idea of a smaller iPad and the iPad mini was released after his death 😅

[@manart6506]

Steve Jobs did want fewer options for consumers… but as far as I can tell consumers didn’t like that, they always wanted options.

[@calebgamer]

@@manart6506 i find this comment very ironic.

[@supreme_xenon]

@@manart6506 And where that led them? Confusing pricing

[@GameCubeGuru]

Jon how you feel about the iPad mini is how I feel about my iPhone 13 mini. It’s a phone.

[@50Steaks68]

Not a phablet

[@GameCubeGuru]

@@50Steaks68 exactly. unfortunately small phones are becoming a thing of the past

[@whistlerbrad]

Ummm...Let's just hold off until WWDC next month. It's not a coincidence that they released the M4 in time for developers to use the latest betas

[@peraman2022]

It’s WWDC that will be a make it or break it for the IPad

[@whistlerbrad]

💯 Apple needs to play this correctly

[@TMC3000]

Do they have a community page where one can share their thoughts or are they hellbent on their egos?

[@christianperez6837]

@@TMC3000I wanna know this too

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

@@TMC3000 The fact Airpods max hasn't been updated in 3 years despite it's countless major flaws (among many other products) really show that Apple don;t give two shit's about what their consumers want. Apple always thinks it knows best. This is why I left the Apple ecosystem.

[@yusufkphotos]

I disagree with the scrapping iPad Air idea. The Air is a great device for students who want something to draw or write with. The regular iPad is good as a media consumption device imo. The iPad Pro does need something to separate it from the air though. Still rocking my 2018 iPad Pro and I’m loving it but hate the fact that the software just isn’t there yet.

[@AuroraX7]

the ipad pro is just the ipad air but superior

[@emm4148]

@@AuroraX7 no the air is a downgraded version of the pro

[@AuroraX7]

@@emm4148 but how

[@TMC3000]

⁠@@emm4148well at the moment the iPad Air with M4 is on par with iPad Pro with M2 chip in it or might even be faster. So how is it downgraded version my fellow user?

[@Crowski]

We don’t need iPad, iPad Air and iPad Pro. Just make it iPad and iPad Pro and the Mini Pro. That’s all we need. 😂

[@Ph0enix7373]

Instead of killing off the air I would make the air into the regular ipad, and the change the ipad 10th gen and subsequent models into the ipad se. I think that would be the perfect lineup

[@RaghavVijay]

Exactly,was thinking the same thing,A Se ipad makes so much sense!

[@Noodles1771]

The iPad is a secondary device - the prices should be going down not up. The fact that the last model iPad is $500 if you want one bump to storage at 256gb is pure garbage.

[@ruschein]

If the software was fixed it would no longer be a secondary device. Especially w/ the keyboard.

[@grospoulpe951]

@@ruschein a laptop, for my usages anyway, is a secondary device, especially if you want a big GPU like a RTX 4090 / RX 7900 XTX. iPad Pro ? I've got one (the 2nd gen 12.9, 2017) + Logitech (mouse + keyboard) ... not trackpad needed (and it takes too much room)

[@ruschein]

@@grospoulpe951 You're probably in a tiny minority if you need such a beefy GPU. I used to build my own PC's and gave up on that years ago when I decided that laptops were plenty powerful enough for me. Apart from games that require very little GPU power, I game on a PS5 which is good enough for me.

[@MrOscar5690]

@@ruschein It’s my primary so 🤷‍♂️

[@anianii]

For a lot of people, it isn't a secondary device. Those are the target group of those new iPads. Everyone else, for whom it is a secondary device, have options like iPad 10 or iPad Air if they want something better

[@SethuSenthil]

The iPad Air is the go to iPad for students like me because it is the cheapest iPad with Apple Pencil 2 / pro support. A lot of us also tend to buy fake Apple pencils from Amazon because it’s cheaper and we don’t need all that pressure sensitivity stuff for taking notes. As long as the pencil charges wirelessly and pairs with the iPad we chill.

[@salocin9009]

Totally agree the M2 Air is the best option for students (or a refurbished M1/2 Pro), Apple is trying to sell students on the A14 chip in the base iPad. I own a 2020 iPad Air with A14 and it chugs when you try to do too much in Freeform or god forbid you have 2 apps open in full screen. It feels like any app not currently on screen gets kicked from the limited 4GB of RAM which is unacceptable when switching between lecture slides and goodnotes.

[@br5632]

I’m a student and I think if you don’t draw, most students get the cheapest model. I have a Gen 9 iPad and it’s the max I’d need.

[@logix90]

and since the iPad Gen 9 is now not part of the line-up and Apple reduced the price of the 10 Gen. iPad 10 Gen. is now the Education iPad.

[@InfectedSquid]

If the iPad pro could run macOS or macOS mode, I would buy all the accessories and just called it the ultimate computer. Serious work machine when I need it, and a movie tablet at night

[@fisherflush]

Would you buy it for the price of iPad pro plus the price of MacBook ? Around 3600 dollars min ?

[@PotatoLite-28271]

And that is the reason why Apple wouldn’t do it. It would hurt their sales. But it would be nice if Apple let us program on the iPad Pro because after all or let us side load, it is the best iPad in the Apple line-up.

[@Gurenn83]

I would rather get a macbook even if the ipad can run on MacOS lol. Why have multiple pieces when you can have just one?

[@CarlBirdNJ]

Rebrand the iMac name iPad = ipadOS only MacBook = macbookOS only imac= iPad Pro with Mac OS features Current desktop iMac just becomes the Macintosh.

[@CarlBirdNJ]

I also wish the 5g versions of iPad included the phone app. Especially the mini. I would use the mini as a phone - not like a tool and hold it to my head - but with airpods. 5g apple watch could replace much of the need on the go. iPad with phone app when home or at the office or with carplay

[@mimo5383]

The irony of that v8 engine in a car limited to 55mph comment. Living in Sydney the vast majority of speed zones here are 40~60kph and we still have Lambo's and high powered v8's zipping round. I went with a Subaru BRZ myself seeing as its a lot more fun driving a slow car slow.

[@marcin8112]

Are you sure it’s not just that you can’t afford a Lambo?

[@michaelcobbin]

@@marcin8112 How quickly do you want to lose your driver’s license? I also live in Sydney, and there are so many speed cameras and red light cameras that if you don’t obey the law, you will quickly lose your license.

[@nylotical]

@@michaelcobbin I don’t think you read and/or comprehended their statement properly.

[@michaelcobbin]

@@nylotical Probably, but if you need the V8 to tow a massive boat to the Hawkesbury River, then it’s a different story. In Apple’s case, the M4 chip was required to run the Tandem OLEDs, and they are first to the market with Tandem OLEDs. I assume Apple will roll out Tandem OLEDs across their Pro line over the next 2 to 3 years. In this scenario, iPad Pro is getting the power of the V8 for the heavy AI lifting but the fuel efficiency of a mini 4-cylinder-a win-win scenario.

[@harzritz438]

How about v8 car that permanently in ‘valet’ mode..thats more like it..haha

[@nfsdanz]

Jon makes lots of good points. The iPad Pros definitely need a more advanced OS to make them worthwhile and differentiate them from the ‘normal’ iPads running the current iPad OS. Not sure if iPad Air *needs* to go though. They could, for example, consolidate the current lineup and incorporate the Mini with the Air line. The Mini as it stands seems to be in no man’s land where it’s not quite clear whether it’s intended to be a budget or mid range device. Basic iPad OS iPad (entry level) iPad Air 8.5, 11, 13 (mid range) Advanced iPad OS iPad Pro 11, 13, 15? (high end)

[@emm4148]

No iPad mini and base iPad keep iPad os and iPad Air and pro get advanced iPad os but the air is just an entry level to that os just like MacBook Air

[@SluzbeniMobi]

5:02 "WE never listened to the customer" - Steve Jobs

[@PO-nb8qc]

I don’t think it is true. He read a lot of customers email. He did listen selectively and tastefully!!!

[@SluzbeniMobi]

@@PO-nb8qc so all of the people now complaining in the comments, prove that Apple is listening to the customer?

[@jennifergala]

Disappointed on the new iPads. The 13 inch pro is over 2000$ tax in in Canada for the basic model.

[@no_way4165]

It's not the iPad that's disappointing, it's Canada's leadership.

[@lissaToday5787]

@@no_way4165😂😂😂😂😂

[@esisolina]

So, you are disappointed in the price not the new iPads

[@bmeza64]

Jon for APPLE CEO 2027

[@skjenn13]

Fuck it…go for President!!

[@joeldiaz141]

​@@skjenn13calm down bro.

[@ahmadeido8245]

I’d vote for his sarcastic ass 🤣

[@rizzzz1015]

I don't want Jerry to snap my recently bought $10000000 ipad in half in a second.

[@mere_cat]

What about just rename the iPad Air the iPad and call the iPad the iPad SE? 😂

[@Usith]

This is actually genius

[@user-qc4jj7gp6s]

Wait wait, this could actually work, because the iPad uses the A14 which is the past, so it could be called iPad SE.

[@failuretolaunchdrums]

iPad Mini, iPad SE, iPad Air, iPad Pro? Nah… Mini is closest we need to an SE. Maybe just rename the iPad Air to iPad and offer it in the 8.5”, 11”, and 13” and drop the naming schemes just to iPad and iPad Pro

[@manart6506]

I think the new iPad Air it’s like what used to be the pro so it can’t be the “normal” iPad… at least not yet.

[@manart6506]

To me the name AIR had nothing to do with size or weight… it’s the better option than a regular iPad.

[@IdoGindes]

How about: * iPad - for people who needs a cheap and basic iPad for work, school or entertainment, one size, runs iPasOS * iPad Air - for people who want an iPad with more features and the Apple Pencil Pro, 3 sizes (mini, regular and Max), runs iPadOS * iPad Pro - for people who want the ultimate versatile Apple tablet-computer hybrid, 2 sizes, runs MacOS or preferably iPadProOS (which would be 70% MacOS and 30% iPadOS) I think this method would differentiate the iPad Air from the iPad Pro in a way that would make the iPad Pro worth it’s extremely high price compared to the iPad Air BTW, I was so disappointed when the event was over without the iPad mini getting some love 😢

[@firstnamelastname2971]

They will never do this

[@dariuspatterson7039]

Yup, the iPads were updated but still have all the same problems except for finally fixing the front camera. A “Pro” product with one port, can’t run most applications that well, has a crap files system, is expensive as a laptop but offers less, keeps making them thinner and decreasing the battery size but won’t increase battery life, iPad OS is mediocre, ect. Doesn’t help either you have to buy a new Apple Pencil for it or a new Magic Keyboard.

[@jeffsancricca7041]

Also eliminated a performance core on the binned M4 chips. What’s that tell you, more efficiency for more consumption not creation.

[@johnharvey7913]

But other than that...

[@ttrotary7]

Its been a while since John has said things that make sense. This one does. iPadOS needs to have for starters a real mouse cursor that behaves like a mouse, and not some weird bubble thing that locks onto things I dont want it to. It needs proper window management, that i can resize and put wherever the heck I want. It needs a proper file manager. It just needs a lot of polishing to provide more of that computer interface than a poorly expanded iPhone interface. But dont expect much of anything...

[@jish8681]

I see the ipad as an extension of the iphone with a bigger screen with the addition of being able to take notes on it with the pencil, not like a replacement for a pc or laptop, of which i still use both. It's just nice to have a bigger screen to watch stuff on or control music on my speakers or write things down without needing a notebook. It doesnt need to be a replacement for a laptop like they seem to want it to be (although weird that they still put "enhanced" ios on it) its just nice to be able to do the same basic tasks i do on my phone with a nice huge screen, and hopefully that overkill performance will lead to more years of support.

[@TMC3000]

While I agree with you on some points being that iPad is just a larger iPhone,….i don’t quite support your opinion of it remaining so as they (APPLE) are trying to promote iPad Pro as a creative/productivity device rather than for content consumption. One will think it will be pro enough to be uniquely made for professional in various fields but No it’s not like that at all, just the same as others.

[@nugurimanideep]

@FrontPageTech Respect to this guy. He is a hardcore fan but now speaking truth. Thats how a tech-tuber should be.

[@bssc-wav]

make AppleOS and have it run in everything

[@drill_fiend1097]

Ironically that’s what Microsoft tried to do with Windows Phone. They are trying again, but this time no phone Ui but still supporting ARM platform.

[@prrithwirajbarman8389]

​@@drill_fiend1097 Their environment management sucks. Every app needed to convert so they could run into their OS and they did nothing about it.

[@castellum40]

They can put the battery in the attachable keyboard, so it serves in two goals: power bank energy and stabilizing the iPad, reducing wiggle.

[@Micah-Woods]

Great video! I was thinking sacrificing the iPad and keeping the Mini, Air and Pro. Separate workflows between the Pro and Air with macOS on the Pro.

[@ax11]

@frontpagetech Jon can you please make a video talking about iPad Mini 7 leaks, details and when it will be released?

[@zkol3287]

Look I got the best solution. Allow Roseta to work on the iPad, we can keep it as an iPad but if we can get apps and windows programs to work on the iPad than we don't need windows or macos on the iPad. We don't need macos per say, buts the ability to use Mac programs and windows programs would make the iPad its own juggernaut and third option instead of just iPhone os with less features

[@stevens7409]

It doesn’t work like that.

[@Ben-eu8dz]

One problem I'd highlight is having those really cheap entry-level iPads is really useful for businesses that build on top of them for visitor management and stuff like that.

[@shaunpugh3287]

I was thinking along similar lines a couple of days ago. I have an M1 MacBook Air and it serves me well, no intention of replacing it. But... if I had to replace it, what would I get. The 13" iPad Pro, with the new fancy keyboard would be the ideal choice as I use illustration apps with a pen on my iPad mini, but then I wouldn't want to use iPad OS for my daily tasks. Put a better OS on the iPad and I could consolidate 2 devices into one, probably spending a similar amount, but it's less to carry around.

[@devarshdave]

I knew jon was pissed when Tim mentioned Mini at the end without updating it...

[@NeKa..]

You said it Jon! Although I would tweak a bit with your proposition of lineups. There is no need to be more than 3 ipad ranges, as you said. But here's the tweak (keeping how far competition has advanced now) iPad mini - one size - 256 to 512 GB - £400 - £500 max iPad Air - one size - 11" - 256GB , 513GB, 1TB - £600 - £1000 max MacPad - MacOS that can run iOS/iPadOS app store apps - one size - 13" - 256GB, 512GB, 1-2 TB - £1100 - £2000 max Apple pencil - 2 options - pencil (£80) and pro £120 max) - AND compatible with all touchscreen Apple devices. Of course people can find reasons why not. I, on the other hand, don't see why I should spend all that for limited used when competition is already more capable. I mean, don't even get me started why they won't talk about AI (or lack of thereof) but make pencil 'hover' a bold headline. In the end, my Samsung spen xan work both their tablets and phones, take a selfie, remote control slideshows, gp back/forward on browser on a flick, and perhaps more than I'm aware of. All this, and it's included in with ultras (phones or tablets). On the AI front, circle-to-search is in daily use, and every so often I using 3-4 floating apps, for my grocery orders and comparison along with my shopping lists. The Ultra thin M4 iPad Pro won't do half of all that, yet it's priced at twice as much at those ultra devices. This is not rocket science to see, as Jon said, ipad is ipad - mini or pro. But what saddens me most is that my one-time fav company is anything but customer-focused. I'm feeling Steve Jobs loss more with each passing year, where his products would speak for itself. Tim Cook ruined it with being focused only on APPL. Such an approach is ner sustainable. No wonder he has to bring an Asian face in the event stream to salvage his loosing China market share.

[@austinbrady]

I didn't want to like your channel when I clicked on one of your videos (a year ago) but now I watch every single upload and love them so much lol. Thanks for the stellar content!

[@FrontPageTech]

❤️

[@chidorirasenganz]

I think having a different OS for different devices in a product line is a dumb idea

[@chidorirasenganz]

There’s no macOS pro for the Mac Pro or Mac Studio 😂

[@TMC3000]

No it’s not…..windows has different version of windows os for different purposes so it’s doable with macOS or iPadOS. When adding pro to a device, make sure it supports that feature not just hardware but also software. I think the software even makes it more pro if done well and right now there is nothing pro about it cause it’s the same as others. So what’s the uniqueness!

[@jbladesandsblazegaming]

Well putting the fastest, most expensive chip in a device that can barely use it is also dumb

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@TMC3000 Windows isn’t macOS or iPadOS. Microsoft makes things needlessly complex, Apple doesn’t. Also what makes the iPad Pro special is its hardware just like the Mac Pro, Mac Studio and the MacBook Pro

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@jbladesandsblazegaming Considering M series is based on the AX series, it’s always was going to be this way. Also the iPad can easily take advantage of the additional power if you use it for creative tasks and gaming. It’s no different than a Mac

[@Kythlo]

I’m so tired of this conversation, if you don’t want iPadOS stop getting an iPad. People just say it’s not capable but don’t explain why, It’s great for me.

[@AndrewGeleff]

You missed the entire purpose of the video.

[@jajacobs2]

I ordered the new pro but I’m thinking of canceling it to see what they do with the operating system or any other software updates.

[@NelsonBonilla-xh2cg]

Yes I will cancel my order right know

[@UltraDoug]

Couldn’t agree more about the Mini. I held out for years always choosing the larger options. Once I got the Mini, my only regret was that I waited so long!

[@horacemui]

Well, I think the current ipad line-up is great! Having iPad Air is really a MUST to bridge the cheap iPad and the expensive pro models.

[@jqyhlmnp]

Buy an iPad Pro once. Buy an iPad Air twice. Buy an iPad every release date

[@davidtompkins7228]

Jon let’s go with the recommendation for the iPad Lineup. Air gone Just iPad in the middle what’s your price point and spec configuration for this just iPad in the middle what the Air is now at the price it’s at now?

[@kshitijrajpoot9165]

No, they don’t need to remove the air, they need to reduce the price by few bucks and make it the iPad and discontinue the regular iPad, since iPad Air is the perfect middle ground between the iPad’s. It doesn’t has fiddly 1st gen pensil mechanism of the regular iPad plus it is compatible with the same Magic Keyboard of the pro, but enough to differentiate it from the pro with a more basic display with bezels and a single back camera

[@sonictonic_]

Love the iPad, stoked about the latest Pros and pre-ordered one, AND I agree with you 100%. The iPad Air gotta go. And damn it Apple the Pencil lineup is a joke. Clean that ish up.

[@musiciangamer76]

Loved the reaction to the event coverage on Genius Bar too! Keep up the great work on Front Page Tech and Genius Bar Jon! Loved the tiny Sam for how he did you in his video 😂 let’s see how long it’ll take him to notice 😂

[@yondertz]

The iPad transfer hand gesture before the line ‘the software is’ on 2:21 is a very serious tech journalist Jern … Hahaha! Love it!

[@engelbertcarrillo3992]

What you are not seeing is that there are plenty of companies that use the iPads in the middle that no one buys. Company i work for buys thousands of iPad airs and minis lol

[@yusufkphotos]

The iPad Pro NEEDS an SD card slot. It would make it so useful for photographers and small time video editors. It would also separate it more from the iPad Air

[@no_way4165]

It would lose ruggedness. Buy a USBc to SD card reader, easy.

[@yusufkphotos]

@@no_way4165 I already have one. Use it everyday after I’ve taken photos. Apples a multi trillion dollar company they have the resources to add an sd card slot without changing the chassis stiffness.

[@solidsnake5751]

I think Jon is 100% spot on with this line up proposal, as well as the requirement for iPad Pro to offer a much better OS than the simple iPadOS. Mr. Prosser, you have my vote to replace Timothy. It’s time to make Apple make sense again!

[@bjriag]

And they just need discontinu all the others

[@steelstalker]

Everytime I hear this same rant from tech reviewers I always want them to give specifics? WHAT software do you need on a tablet? Emails, media consumption, multiple pro art arts, light gaming, streaming, social media and now they have pro editing software designed for the iPad-it just seems like a parroting talking point

[@_Digitalguy]

Some features that would make iPads more productive without MacOS: - choice of default app to open a file type - ability to "peg apps to RAM" (= keep it in RAM as a priority, instead of regular reloading) - ability to resize and place apps as one wishes in Stage Manager - iPad to iPad Sidecar - iPad to iPad Universal control - audio support and trackpad support in Sidecar for Mac - battery charge threashold (85% or even better, customizable) so that you can leave the iPad plugged it / connected to a monitor all day long

[@lbcck2527]

I gave up waiting for iPads to run MacOS. I have returned to Android/Windows. Cost-feature efficient and third-party reparable combination.

[@PythonPlusPlus]

I don’t think iPad OS is the problem. The problem is that the App Store is the only place to get apps which locks out a lot of app from being made available on iPad. What we truly want is the ability to download apps from anywhere, so developers have the freedom to do what they want.

[@pokiblue5870]

I think the only good thing about apple event was the price drop for ipad 10th gen for new users and people that have ipad 4th gen and older that wants to upgrade. They could have made the M4 ipad pro incredible but they didnt…😢 imagine if they annonced you could toggle from IpadOs to MacOs only if its connected with new magickeyboard and only if you have the M4 ipad pro serie. Anyway looks like i wont be buying the ipad pro. I currently have ipad 10th gen and love it, got it for free from a promotion with a bank. Until they offer something very very good only for Ipad pro users i will never buy it. Lets hope for M5 ipad pro they will annonce something good…ill be waiting.

[@Kikambi]

Well said

[@MyLibertyTV]

@@pokiblue5870Apple does hardware updates and software updates as separate events, we have to wait to see what the next OS update does.

[@Wraith26]

Greed is the reason an iPad will never cross into OS territory. We all know the iPads have the capability and power to have the Mac OS in them but they don't wan't to lose those Mac book sales. Instead they're targeting creatives now with the iPad airs.

[@eclecticaro]

As far as we know Tim The Accountant soon iPad will have Ultra Pro Max Ultimate Plus M20 chip.. and still on kidsOS an 1mm thin to save on battery cost.

[@Wraith26]

@@eclecticaro lol

[@playa4lyfe451]

Greed is at the core of apple, a penny pinching company that stop providing chargers for their own devices so that people are forced to buy an over priced Chinese charger built in sweat shops like every apple product. But Apple users aren't that bright, which is why they are still in business.

[@mrwilliams8623]

I love it when a real apple user uses logical sense when it comes to apple product use cases. I have a 5th gen iPad Pro and see no reason to upgrade and probably will not for years to come I don’t use what I have already.

[@br5632]

Can I get the base model with a laminated display and a pencil that doesn’t require a cord? 😅

[@x97k8]

iPad Os next month gonna blow everyone minds

[@kevingold1091]

Source?

[@dubidad]

Like it did last year?

[@no_way4165]

i agree. The hardware did blow my mind, next should be the software to make use of the M4 and the out of this world screen.

[@stevens7409]

Yeah that was stated when I got my M1 iPad. Never happened.

[@ramonlopezulloa2097]

I have a feeling they might redesign iPadOS at the next WWDC

[@DiniduPerera]

Better file management. Better window management and multitasking. Better notification management.

[@scottbaker8528]

If we can’t even imagine what we want iPadOS to really look like, we can’t ask Apple to build it. I think everyone wildly underestimates the difference between using your fingers as an input vs. the precision on a mouse.

[@AppleTrack]

I can't take you seriously when you say the solution is to keep the iPad mini around 😂

[@FrontPageTech]

You’re lucky I didn’t say get rid of all of them except the mini

[@handsanitizer2457]

People love the mini its onenof their best sellers

[@TMC3000]

I’ve always thought the iPad mini is for ladies and kids….didn’t expect serious minded people using it really. Well it’s mostly used for consumption because of the small screen ….i just don’t fancy it.

[@garuda]

Ipad pro mini would be awesome.

[@lissaToday5787]

@@FrontPageTech😂😂😂

[@solidsnake5751]

Apple is so out of touch with what its customers want from these devices that it’s equal parts hilarious and rage inducing! There is no vision or strategy for the iPad lineup other than to keep doing what they’ve been doing for a decade despite dwindling sales.

[@NelsonBonilla-xh2cg]

I just canceled my order doesn't make sense to order a new i pad with the same features i will just wait for next month and check if they changed the software in the ipad pro

[@thekrsid]

Personally i think ipad air bridges the huge price gap between pro and regular ipad. Its for people with less usage but some extra money to spend qnd for pro users who dont have pro levels of money to spend, like students for instance.

[@VioletGOKU]

I politely disagree. I don't want iPads to have MacOS at all. I want iPads to be iPads, with all mobile apps working on it while being battery friendly. What I do want though, is for the iPad pros to have bigger battery instead of being thinner, have more durable design (water resistant, bend-proof, etc.).

[@shaneelsingh4653]

I’m concerned that you said iPhone Air to make a point and that Tim will somehow seriously consider this an option 😂

[@jhavarcytonge9439]

Agreed, it is to confusing, and persons keep asking me which on to buy.

[@amarug]

I would love a "iPad Batterylife" or something, giving 24h+ life. I don't care if its fatter and heavier, I'm strong af

[@iHenried]

The iPad Air 6 is the model I ended up buying. I upgraded from a 2020 iPad Pro, about 4 years old. The pro is out of my price range, but I got lucky this year with the air. The features I REALLY wanted came with the air for a fair amount less. The pro pencil was a major dealbreaker for me for my digital painting. The next deal breaker was M2; it’s not M4, but it’s newer and faster than my M1 13 inch pro. I don’t mind that the air is slightly thicker than the pro. It’s weird, but it’s fine. It’s got a lot of nice upgrades compared to my old pro. Really the only features about the pro iPads that I’d want is pro motion and thunderbolt. Which - isn’t the end of the world and I never use my iPad with any external monitors. I’m excited to get it on release day (I pre ordered). If I somehow can get the pro within the return policy (AKA I can afford the extra couple hundred dollars) I’ll think about it.

[@TimpossibleOne]

The iPad mini is the most forgotten about iPad. Except for a few niche users is more insignificant than the iPad Air. There's a reason it goes years without getting a refresh or a price drop when it's sporting outdated chip sets. Because they forget about it constantly. Apple could have iPad in 3 sizes (mini, reg, plus) and iPad Pro in 3 sizes (mini, reg, max). Run regular iPad OS on the iPads and have a "closer to Mac" iPad Pro OS. It's the simplest solution. The prices could start at iPad mini $300, iPad $400, iPad Plus $500, iPad Pro mini $700 or $800, iPad Pro (11") $1000 and iPad Pro Max (13") $1300.

[@dainasworldnumbers88]

Great review. I was debating weather or not to buy one.

[@kevinvillanueva137]

all i want is an ipad mini OLED with 120Hz refresh rate

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

The fact you can buy a brand new Iphone 15+ and an Ipad air, spend well over $2000 and not have 120hz on either device is just insane to me.

[@anderson8601]

Salute!! My guy, your suggestions are rock solid!!! Hopefully they do get consideration.

[@JoeWhiteFilms]

You could also make the IPad Mini and Budget IPad a unified IPad SE line in two sizes. I hear what your saying though Jon.

[@EuliasCreed]

Jon really is making some of the best content in recent times and I’m here for all of it. I ❤ what you doing bro keep up the good work 👏👏👏

[@marvelfanrave]

I use my iPad Pro as my personal computer, and I’m very happy with it. I’m excited for all of the new features announced this past week. I respect your opinion and passion, but I disagree.

[@bmwjs1]

No, the only thing I need to change is the software. More or less it needs to happen on the side. And depending on how much ram you have this will determine everything well not everything just more or less how much of the operating system you’re allowed to use pro wise. Or a hybrid. Mix of macOS and iPadOS. For the air and pro. And keep the standard OS for the mini and the standard iPad

[@Escile]

This ad with a visual yellow bar indicator is so cool! Well done man

[@jinvid]

Jern, that weight is coming off like the lead paint off my original Voltron toys and I am proud of you brother! I'm on my own weight loss journey. I went from 176 to 162. Wish me luck to keep going!

[@Portal64]

iPad Pro being thinner than iPad Air reminds me of how I hated that the newer MacBook was smaller and thinner than MacBook Air when it released. And then the 2015 Macbook Pro also got skinnier. The Air series just keep being out aired

[@martinkamarabrunson]

”People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware.” Steve Jobs has quoted that multiple times. Apple is a software company.

[@carlosr1176]

All iPad is needs is a universal menu bar. Would allow for more pro apps. You can lock windows when on one screen but use windows when connected to a monitor.

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

When will people learn? Only the cheapest ipad is worth getting. The others have too much power and an overly restrictive operating system. The hardware-software balance is just off.

[@ProfSfcs]

Thank you for an awesome review! Given everything in this video, I’m not investing a new iPad Pro. I’m staying with the last iPad Pro 12.9” in 2023!

[@mewaka]

It's like how Samsung got rid of the Note series.. it just makes sense

[@anaslahham]

iPad pro needs a dex like feature, connect it to a monitor and it becomes a lite iOS version. This is pro, what should we do with a mighty M4 on such limted os ?

[@Superawsomed]

Partner with companies such as Adobe and Ableton to create more "user friendly" versions on their apps for IPad such as Premeir pro and Ableton Live. You can go back and fourth between the versions to create on the go

[@jeffchastain2977]

Adobe has mobile versions of Lightroom and Photoshop that work great on my iPad Air gen4

[@wingandhog]

Thought I would trade up my 1 year old iPad Pro 12.9 for the new 13” and almost preordered this morning but I can’t quite justify it, even though my trade-in value is at the top of the value structure. My current Pro does everything I ask of it. I am really waiting for the MAC mini with the M4 chip later this year or early next year.

[@lamchrispham4308]

Imagine Apple creating a dedicated Apple Gaming Controller and playing GTA 6 on the OLED 13 inch. Would that make people buy it?

[@AdamFalconieri]

I truly believe they’ll find a way to build the gap between iPadOS and macOS (fingers crossed for WWDC24). Imagine an iPad Pro, running kind of an ‘iPadOS Extreme’ software, where you can basically launch on a Mac style springboard when unlocking the device. With a real desktop view like macOS showing files and why not direct app shortcuts, connected to iCloud Drive. Ofc, keeping the App Store as it is on iPad and merge the actual one with the Mac App Store, as well as the App Library always in the dock to launch iPad-like App, AND real .dmg macOS apps, adapted for touch screen. It would be an insanely good deal. I would instantly buy a 1To M4 iPad Pro today with this kind of software update, where I could enjoy my favorite iPad Apps, as well as my Pro suite such as Adobe After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, Cinema 4D, Figma & so much more.

[@druiznyc]

Here's how I would change the line up. First keep all the models but change some of the features. Make the Air the thin one (which makes sense) and with the Pro give us more battery and give back the physical sim slot. As a Pro user I wouldn't mind it being a little thicker/heavier if I didn't have to worry about the battery while traveling and the physical sim is just easier to deal with if you travel a lot for work over seas.

[@jackwilson5542]

The solution is very simple. Dual boot- iPadOS and MacOS. Would cost them virtually nothing and make that thing a laptop replacement.

[@u1tranatoryt323]

one idea for ipad os, when using stage manager to change the size of tabs, the image and text in the window should get smaller, not keep the same text. when i shrink down the size of a tab, i can’t see anything because the text or image is not fitting well.

[@shApYT]

iPadOS just needs proper window management and Mac app compatibility. Just doing that will bridge the gap. I feel like they must be thinking about doing this because what the hell the VisionOS supposed to be? It is running a mobile OS while saying it will replace your desktop.

[@auistin2001]

Great video but i have an ipad air and I am happy because I can experience what I can't afford for a ipad pro. Also I pad pro does more stuff that I need. And that's why I love my ipad air.

[@SleepyCJCC]

I agree 100%. I got an iPad Air Gen 5 (so the M1 model), and the reasons being: M1 chip, which I don't really take advantage of, and the Apple Pencil that magnetically charges and pairs. The ease-of-use and "power" just made sense for me and my use case (writer, pastor, so lots of reading and note-taking). I wish Apple had a regular iPad that supports magnetic charging, that I can buy into.