Frost DK TWW Pre Patch Guide

[@Rooachie]

DW OBLITERATION? VIABLE? Heavy breating intensifying

[@gitogal]

Foaming of the mouth

[@Rooachie]

@@gitogal The thought of using kel thuzads normal mode sword with challenge mode set make show symptoms

[@A_B90_]

@@Rooachie Made a decent Mog with heroic KT swords

[@wearevenom-2k868]

Its not viable its META

[@eodyn7]

I don't want that.

[@Gyreos]

Dual wield obliteration just slaps imo, played it a few keys now and it's not only fun but deals massive dmg. In raid it's just fine I guess or maybe it will be better with deathbringer hero talents

[@YoreHistory]

Great video! what are the weak auras you are using? Are there any guides that show what each frost around center view means? Coming from Rogue so completely clueless and most wa dont mention they just expect you to know :)

[@joshuasavill1874]

The DK GOAT, thanks for the videos

[@shiro1943]

As a Frost Dk noobie i find it hard to follow if there arent any icons are text to visualize the rotaion part of the vid

[@caiodiogo1889]

I had just commented in the other video that i was waiting for this one, that was fast xD

[@Valkath]

I am actually happy now there is option we dont have to need Glacial Advance even i like two handed weapon.Hope that build will be viable at War Within expansion.I am still thinking Dk frost need good utility for bring something to party.

[@michaelandreasen993]

thanks for this dude 🤙 gonna try the builds now. only a 2h atm though - really hard to see the talents though when the links are broken.. thanks blizz :(

[@sanjayw9878]

Man ive been playing for fun, not doing anything serious just some basic heroics maybe a raid finder or two...but this shows I could be doing a lot better 😂 im gonna try some of this out today see the difference in my output

[@БориславНачев-т4в]

So in tww what will be better ? dw or 2h ?

[@Bicepspump]

DW most likely

[@final.1270]

Hey everyone! These changes are beautiful! But in my opinion too good to be true. Do you think that there will be some nerfs?

[@driiifter]

DW Breath is nutty, I'm playing it in keys too. DW Oblit is extremely consistent and well rounded, if you want a smooth gameplay, just play that. It's less top end potential than Breath, but your damage doesn't diminish, as long as there are enemies and you are pressing keys properly, your DPS goes up slowly. Another thing people might miss: feel free to just point 1 point in Bonegrinder if it's all you can spare, it's worth it. You get the max crit effect still with 1 point.

[@Caaldshan]

Is there any reason for razorice being on main hand? Because I remember fallen crusader not mattering which slot is it on.

[@Bicepspump]

@@Caaldshan makes soul Reaper apply a stack as well

[@Caaldshan]

@@Bicepspump I see, thanks!

[@olivermuller6526]

When do you use dnd as breath frost dk?

[@ShoKoLive]

hey idk why but your Talent strings are not working for me. Can u maybe upload new strings?

[@ThompaThelin]

same here :(

[@Bicepspump]

Its a Blizzard issue

[@michaelandreasen993]

beta prepatch thing

[@Olafr_Warrior]

How far behind is the new frostscythe? And if I wanted to drop something to mess around with it in m+, what should I drop from 2h oblit

[@Bicepspump]

@@Olafr_Warrior it doesnt deal enough damage. Id drop AZ probably

[@Olafr_Warrior]

@@Bicepspump ah ok. It's a shame that the tuning on it is poor.

[@ShiveringSwe]

​@@Olafr_Warrior Yeah it's really a shame. They made it very cool, feels so good to use and then they made it hit like a wet noodle.. So sad

[@FranciszekWolc]

fundamental question. Are we back?

[@Bicepspump]

@@FranciszekWolc Ill go with yes

[@matheuszaghetti]

When should I use frostwyrm's fury now after the change on pillar of frost? Just send it with cooldowns?

[@Bicepspump]

@@matheuszaghetti ST use just after. AoE use towards the end when your dnd is gone

[@BenJonesart]

I wish they would change frostscythe to use runic power, something like uses all of your runic powers and % increase to damage based on how much runic power you have, because the 2 runes from scythe and 2 runes from deathbringer hurts right now for resources

[@battlealpacax]

this is how i discover remorseless winter isnt the aoe for obliterate anymore what the heck i loved that in bfa :(

[@TheDOC1988]

The first two build talent strings are broken FYI that you provided

[@raiden5364]

how much do you think the latest nerfs will affect viability? latest as in 4-5 hours prior to this comment

[@valgaaf4174]

Thanks a lot for the video, as always great! I am happy to see that my fav two handed obliteration build is still usable, I was afraid I will be "forced" to use dual wield and shattered talents, which I don't like tbh. Cheers! Just waiting for the new expansion so that I can syngergise that with deathbringer :)

[@ShiveringSwe]

Same here, 2h frost sence cata. I just hope it will be viable all of tww

[@ror1156]

Is 2H still viable even without legendary? Or is it too far behind?

[@Bicepspump]

Still viable

[@georgescuadi3116]

hi, just found ur chanel, what do you think about cryogenic chamber talent?

[@Bicepspump]

@@georgescuadi3116 not 100% sure yet, think its a bit too weak?

[@Nashness]

Awesome video!

[@davidhughes4544]

Is 2h Oblit still better than DW if you do not have the legendary?

[@Bicepspump]

Much closer

[@Korvinusz03]

You said the best trinkets now seem to be Call to Suffering and Incarnate Icon, but you haven't mentioned if it's for Raid or M+, and if Incarnate Icon is worth taking if you're the only one who has it in the group. Could you detail a bit, please?

[@Bicepspump]

@@Korvinusz03 icon is really only worth when lots of people have it. You can run ominous as well. Best is to just sim your character

[@Korvinusz03]

@@Bicepspump for M+ I use Call to Suffering and Pip, do you think I could change something and make it stronger? Thanks for the reply

[@Bicepspump]

@@Korvinusz03 sounds fine to me honestly. Try out some different combos and see what you like. Ashes is good as well

[@torben4290]

One question to Shattered Frost, Is it more worth to Target Change every sec to proc Razorice Stacks or is it more worth to hold them on the Other targets for passive buff ?

[@torben4290]

To proc Shattered frost like with every Froiststrike i mean

[@Bicepspump]

Outside of pillar you tab target

[@torben4290]

@@Bicepspump And do you use only Froststrike in pillar windows instead of glacial advance cause GCD ist now so hight ?

[@P4RT1shiNy]

Is it just me or are the codes for talents broken?

[@sasaki8765]

I'll be doing 2H BoS and no one can stop me!

[@Jsten16]

youe 2h m+ spec is bugged. the copy paste dont work

[@pedrojosearanzazu129]

Im considering to play frost and unholy, what race u recommend to go with ?

[@Bicepspump]

Probably human

[@shei_dox]

Hello bro ! Can i please have your razorice stack WA ? is really good for tracking the stacks and man this is like a game changer

[@Bicepspump]

@@shei_dox hey, my weakaura package is currently a twitch sub perk

[@3lprut]

They need to bring back the rotation where you OBL till full rune. Then frost strike dump, or d strike for health.... So simple

[@dacbiet]

The damage I was doing on 2H frost is just insane

[@jjjey444]

time stamps please !

[@bingobongo8458]

Is obliteration going to be the go to for TWW ?

[@Bicepspump]

@@bingobongo8458 a bit too early to tell, but probably for M+ yes

[@TV-jw1ry]

I'm wow player from south korea. Do u recommend dk frost??? Or should I find another job?

[@luqqs3047]

frost dk is fun, and kinda simple but hard to master a lot to optimise, and if u get bored any time u can swap to Unholy wich is also really fun and has a completely different play style, Blood is a fun Tank, DK is a really nice job :b

[@Urukior4]

I'm sad new Frostscythe still isn't taken... but Chill Streak is 🙄

[@doublem7709]

I love dw obli

[@bowdroppin2024]

How is Shattered Frost simming? Is it even close?

[@Bicepspump]

Its looking really solid, especially after the pre patch

[@jlava91]

How's the dps compared to unholy?

[@Bicepspump]

Better

[@HalfinchLonomia]

hmm the new 3rd stack of killing machine is not working for me 🤔

[@Bicepspump]

@@HalfinchLonomia third stack sorry?

[@HalfinchLonomia]

@@Bicepspump so before the prepatch killing machine could stack 2 times. in the patch notes it says killing machine can stack an additional time now, so wouldn't it be 3? its the 4 ice parentheses that pop up in the middle of your screen right?

[@trippledad]

ur strings are not working

[@Bicepspump]

That should be sorted now!

[@Frederic_104]

If it doesn't have frostscythe I'm not interested

[@Dumbmelee]

🐐

[@neziaojuara1768]

now hear me out, what about 2H obliteration with razorice as the weapon enchant to allow shattering frost?

[@Bicepspump]

Try it out! I doubt it's better though considering how strong Fallen Crusader is

[@ShiveringSwe]

Good to hear 2H is still viable :) Seems like good times for dw enjoyers to, nice work. How did you make your KM procs look like that? I dont like the new design with 1 proc on each side.

[@ArthurPessoadeSouza]

💪!

[@hvdiv17]

Can Blizzard just remove breath please it's the dw or 2h obliterate for me.

[@sjwhater]

Great video actually. Made me realize how boring frost dk rotation still is. Thank you for saving me from wasting my time!

[@chaoshunting5659]

can you 2h breath?

[@Bicepspump]

@@chaoshunting5659 yesich, it works okay with the legendary

[@jordanrundell9962]

Please Timestamp your videos. Thank you! :)

[@Bicepspump]

Yes sorry, lazy

[@frenkieleran]

Hello

[@repartetas]

now the question, frost or unholy?

[@Bicepspump]

What do you think is the most fun?

[@repartetas]

@@Bicepspump I think the unholy is more fun, pests, pets, skillcap but frost I think it will do more damage, and it's also fun to be above your friends in the details and be able to tease them a little bit. So I'm still in doubt

[@Frawt]

@@repartetas It's especially fun to tease them when 20-25% of your damage is auto-attacks

[@Vondarkstar]

Your techno trumpet intro makes my ears bleed. 🙉

[@phnxx5301]

tbh this guides of u are hard to follow.

[@rene9385]

dw or 2h

[@Bicepspump]

DW generally

[@freewill_404]

For some reason a few of the codes weren't working for me when trying to import. These are my copies in case this helps anyone! DW M+ Oblit: CsPAtbMOTHlnKIwUyAn+DK70SDgZGzMjxYYGmZmZmxwMNzYYYGMzYmhZmZmZmZZmBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgZmZMDA DW Raid Oblit: CsPAtbMOTHlnKIwUyAn+DK70SDAzYmZMDDzYmZmZmxMmJGDDGmZGzMMzMzMzMLzMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAjZmZMDA