Frostpunk On The Edge Preview: Deathless(?) Endless Extreme with new Settlements Mechanic

[@Nikolai508]

"There's no point in having more than one person work in a public house". Yeah, apparently every pub I go to agrees with that sentiment.

[@JB-xl2jc]

Kind of wish they'd add an event where people bitch about the lack of wait staff in the Public house if you keep it at 1, sort of like how they bitch if you sign short shifts and enable them but turn them to regular shift right after the short shift ends, lol.

[@vavra222]

I cant point my finger on what exactly, but something about Jake´s commentary and gameplay makes him the only person that can make me watch several consecutive hours of gameplay without feeling bored. I guess that a game that´s interesting to me helps alot - for some reason, its the freezy survival games (this and The Long Dark). Not joking or overexaggerating, i watch your videos almost religiously, whenever i have time to "burn" and nothing else to do.

[@matthewmcneany]

I hadn't really thought about how an appreciation frostpunk might change as you viewed it through the different lenses of Bartle's taxonomy until the things Jake started talking about his desire to engage with the game on a purely mechanical level and not at all on an emotional or empathic one an hour in. I did notice that the philosophy of the game is radically altered by the way the settlement mechanics have been introduced. The frostlands are no longer presented as a zero-sum game filled with Hobbesian actors but with a more realistic take on how people seem to actually respond in a crisis situation. Cautious and defensive yes, but ultimately co-operative to mutual benefit when individuals and societies aren't in a coercive or domineering relationship, it feels like a direct response from the developers to the people who engaged with the game purely in those terms of self-interest and control and saw the game as supportive of that radically un-egalitarian worldview.

[@ИгорьСоколов-х1у]

tl;dr

[@matthewmcneany]

@@ИгорьСоколов-х1у words hard.

[@DDRJake]

The developers are keen on using games to convey messages and meaning. What I find impressive is that they end up making a mechanically sound game in spite of this.

[@ИгорьСоколов-х1у]

Well, this could be a message, that you don't have to be a nice guy as capitan, but a man who does a tedious accounting job, so that everybody can have enough for life. At least that's how I see him. 8)

[@linaetlinda5832]

@@DDRJake i may seem stupid, i always loved the game bit never got the guts to play it, you seem like the only guy playing it mexhanically and not doing it for content or views

[@_mwk]

--This is a game about surviving in a desperate environment, making difficult decisions to save what lives you can DDRJake: Hold my whisky

[@screwlose]

Ahh did someone say 10 hours of Jake battling the freezing cold? Sounds like an excellent way to relax on a freakishly hot summers day.

[@Zack-tx7oz]

2:15:30, new settlement spotted and you're welcomed!!

[@robertsiems3808]

Theres also an ending were you got only childrens left in your city, and they kill you then. Pretty interesting ending. You could do that when you play your "only hunter, gatherer and traider" challenge. Just send all your adults to ice-cold workplaces and disable your medical posts, and BAM you will get an brand new ending! Looking forward to that traiding challenge! Until next time!

[@eriksolce7000]

I've never heard of this. Do you have a link of someone doing it?

[@lefterismplanas4977]

I would also like to see someone doing it

[@robertsiems3808]

@@eriksolce7000 nope, but i know from the devs, that it exist. AND theres an ending where you only got amputees left. You get send in the mines in that ending 😏

[@robertsiems3808]

@@lefterismplanas4977 maybe we will see jake doing it. :)

[@vitalijussmirnovas7954]

Study people! You dont want to be NOT-engineers in Jake's world :D

[@busteraycan]

tbf you don't want to be an engineer IN his world either.

[@QuintBlitz]

Love these extended plays, always end up spending the evening watching your brand of pragmatic survival! In that you care well for the people, but only once they start falling over from a week's worth of 14 hour shifts.

[@bikemessenger7]

"i'm going to AXE you.." where I come from that means "i'm going to ask you.." not "i'm going to fire you..." but it works in both cases in this context. great video by the way, I cant believe I am watching the entire thing but its really enjoyable.

[@ReatuKrentor]

From a gameplay perspective it would be great if the army warehouse outpost would be one of the settlements you can find, so you have a trade option for steam cores.

[@purpledevilr7463]

Can we sign a petition to enable frostpunk on the steam workshop. Think of all the challenges, overpopulation, 3 meals a day, children only, hunters can die, enemy cites attack, conquer other cities found new cities in the same game.

[@sigusmundcomibra5788]

Frostpunk needs more love (Just when I said This I got a notice saying it’s on sale on steam LOL)

[@linaetlinda5832]

Coicidence? I think not !

[@errantvice7335]

Children of the frost sounds like an amazing challenge

[@snow1wolf]

I wonder with the addition of settlments if it is possible to do a endless no infinite resource spot run. IE no wall drill, coal thumper, mine or steel works. If that is not workable perhaps just allowing one of those.

[@cuddlebuff]

I can't wait for the Children Only Run lmaooo

[@hemicar92]

*"I'm drowning in wood"* - Jake, 2020

[@jogzyg2036]

How about doing a "No survivors" run. I'm something of a master at it myself.

[@QuestionDeca]

Ah yes, the Hi Marek! Achievement, surprisingly few have the will go for it.

[@ronclark9724]

I would like to see how fast Jake can kill off everyone.... Speed run to die....

[@kaadn18]

lol instead of jake grabbing all of the settlement's people, the settlements wanted his people, hahaha.

[@1988Aleksandar]

@DDRJake I had some strange feelings about this endless extreme run tho you had me at your outro... Cannot w8 for the new episode ;]] me and my black hearth salutes you dear sir.

[@glaciusarcticfox]

Pretty sure the closest you can get to trade only or trade reliant play through would be to use the very basic wood, steel, food, and coal buildings and relying on the scots to being in more stuff and to do trade with the other settlements.

[@arisgangsta44]

16:10 YOU R GODAMN RIGHT!!! NOBODY QUESTIONS THE CAPTAIN!!

[@PoIapopo]

The circular construction is something you can really tell needed a lot of work and thought, and the developers definitely got it down

[@DDRJake]

Indeed, I love it. kudos.

[@dr0g_Oakblood]

"EU4 Never take loans is for your own ego" - oof that's savage and also a fair point. "Comparison would be Moonshine and I never pass that because it's a crutch" - ok sure because it's so different. Either way, I think people should be free to add stupid rules to themselves if they feel like it.

[@CasparMinning]

Thank you for the excellent content Jake! When will there be another whisky review? I'm looking to buy another great bottle to enjoy with these vids.

[@DDRJake]

Sadly this stream went on too late and I slept instead of drinking. I'll have some drinks in an evening not too far from now and slurp down some review material for it.

[@CarlosVedovato]

Before you blindly send all your steam cores to the settlements, you should mouse over each trade opportunity. Some of the options are mutually exclusive, and some raise or lower the settlement’s happiness with you.

[@galu060]

Again I got this opposite forces: watch the hell out of it vs SPOILERS, oh man, these few days gonna be loooooong

[@momchilandonov]

DDRJake I just found a great joke for your taste! The topic is the dead people of mount Everest and how they were highly motivated, and the one reading about it could calm down, and not risk so much, to which one guy responded: "Or wear something really brightly coloured, so other climbers can use your body as a landmark."

[@evanmagolor1812]

! A piece of the past O Reach the relic site (0/1) O Bring the relic to the city (0/1)

[@ZombieSurvivalist11]

2:17:31 living in a city run by jake...the key word is living.

[@vmag580]

If frostpunk by a chance ever gets a new dlc, it will need a “ddrjake” difficultly.

[@imeryakwut6437]

No generator, no healthcare and no hunting/farming.

[@DDRJake]

I definitely want some harder difficulty. Extreme has really lost its bite.

[@TallulahSoie]

Kind of a moot point after so much time, but easiest way to avoid automaton amputees is to just keep them away from people. I always just build a steam hub next to where every automaton is working and never get any amputees. Efficient? Probably not, but by the time it's a risk I'm usually set on resources. I also tend to go nuts on automatons, but that's just me.

[@DDRJake]

I am quite certain that the automaton crushing your people's likes has nothing to do with where they are physically on the map, and is just due to having automatons, possibly also if they have any efficiency increases. It's better 99% of the time just to let them keep stepping on people, as it is rare and costs very little to replace a limb.

[@ziephon6460]

Just finished that 4+h long vid love you jake

[@Runetrantor]

Was honestly hoping for more challenge from endless to balance the settlements, shame. Though given they are there, and dont deplete of peple when asked for worker, now I kind of wanna do a run where using the extra large map I try to reach a 1000 citizens city. As the frostlands may cap out after a certain number, but the settlements may not.

[@ammelodiana5664]

2:16:55 really did not expect to hear Birkenhead mentioned in this vid, not gonna complain tho

[@TheVerandure]

"Food Shortage" looks bugged. The text for it says "70%" reduction in raw food production but the buildings show only a "7.0%" drop. Not sure if this is because it's only applying the decrease before any tech improvements, but it looks like a coding error to me.

[@DDRJake]

The tooltip I think was bugged out there. the place was running at about -70% efficiency, after calculating automaton efficiency and hothouse bonuses.

[@MrFitttt]

Support

[@alejandrobotero8725]

@11:40 "Battle without cause is just meaningless slaughter. But to engage in mass slaughter for the sake of a higher cause? That is true justice" -Creepy Bleach villain And DDR, apparently Edit:Bob Ross reference. Golden🤣

[@rotony1]

Yay finally more frostpunk

[@crystalp.286]

I love you, Jake!

[@docquanta6869]

Challenge suggestion for you Jake inspired by the hunter/gatherer/trader comment near the end of the stream. No Steam Cores + No Steelworks

[@MagicalBreeze]

Ah yes just what i needed

[@Bolteus]

Haven't thought about this beyond the name, but could we see an EU4 run called "Och Qoyunlu". Something about bringing deep fried mars bars to Aq Qoyunlu.

[@DDRJake]

This is the worst campaign idea I think I've ever read;

[@Jollyroger84103]

Alright, I've got one more challenge, and I'm curious what you think: Research Laws Every level of tech grants you the ability to sign 1 law. So you will have access to no more 5 laws by the end game.

[@DDRJake]

This is pretty interesting.

[@AlanHaskayne]

You would have to make an exception for death law right?

[@FadilTaufiqurohmat]

Rush for tier 1 snow pit law

[@Jollyroger84103]

@@AlanHaskayne Well you better not kill anyone before you reach Drafting Machines then

[@fenxis]

DDRFrost is back!

[@TwoFist]

5:37:22 "The work shift sucks"

[@2Fat2Furi0us]

Minute 36. If you want, I could mod the game. All I need is to download it. The question is: if I make any mods, would Inget any money?

[@2Fat2Furi0us]

Honestly, I can't spend so many hours for nothing. And I am drunk of my arse rewatching ur content.

[@Kittenayngel]

@DDRJake will you be playing FrostPunk 2 when it comes out?

[@DancaniaX]

Wait a second... there's a new endless mode? With new settlements...??? like, some sort of endless trade mode?? nice.

[@BountyHunter-vi9wo]

Man people on PC have it great on frostpunk, console players get only the Crags,Canyon,Flats, and Crater endless mode maps and we don’t have The Last Autumn or On The Edge DLC :(

[@2Fat2Furi0us]

I would love if I could use your influence towards the dev team for mods.

[@DDRJake]

The dev team has moved on to other projects. Frostpunk is not getting official modding support.

[@2Fat2Furi0us]

@@DDRJake Ah, understandable. I will get back when sober. Would it interest you if I teach you hoe to manipulate the game mechanics in order to create scenarious?

[@MrJeridan]

If this is the Frozen Grove map, where are the tree stumps?

[@loafbreed7246]

fr though having soup for every meal would be so awful in reality everyone would just have the shits constantly

[@ulfjohnsen6203]

Challenge idea: not allowed to have discontent higher than hope at any time

[@trolltube3183]

1) boost hope to max 2) profit!

[@jugentsi]

You mean the other way around? ;)

[@Unni_Havas]

Have you considered playing "this war of mine"? It's made by the same people that made this game.

[@TheASMHOURPresentedByPGGlassho]

Are the tents having a fire outside new? I don’t remember that but it looks nice and is a good visual indicator that they are occupied.

[@DDRJake]

I believe it has always been this way, but it's more pronounced here since there's no generator.

[@MegaBossGaming2]

Hey you probably heard of this idea and honestly it’s not that good but how about a play through where every single building has to be inside a heat zone?

[@robertsiems3808]

One question, are the steam hubs consuming coal while they only heat houses in work times or do you need to turn them off to avoid unecessary coal consumption? I always shut them off... i wonder if thats a waste of time... EDIT: Ok nevermind they do consume coal. I wondered cause you had your braziers all the time ON while playing "on the edge".

[@DDRJake]

yes, housing and medical centres should be heated 24/7.

[@Dethrox]

not 100% sure but automatons should refuel even if the sub is turn off.. :D also not sure if automatons do produce resources if when they refueling.. like.. probably but not sure if all the time but hey.. im not an expert in this game lol :D

[@Dmitrisnikioff]

Please tell me you're gonna go for a "City of Frostbitten Children" run where you use the settlements to get rid of all the adults

[@Runetrantor]

Doesnt seem the settlements lose population when you ask them though.

[@princecuddle]

What you truly want is mod support so that you can make some expansions on frostpunk like imagine a mod to create another generator in your base location or the ability to create a new settlement. Or a way to make the kids grow into teens and then start working.

[@1988Aleksandar]

@DDRJake ware you able to test how this new Favor/Relationship work with the new Settlements? I'm presuming without any basis here but when they are Loyal they probably generate faster Favor so you can request stuff from them more often tho you probably get less RSS from the shipments due to decisions? When you check that mechanic can you enlighten me. So far i'm basing that on logic and some understanding of the game and your insight on the matter (2 episodes).

[@DDRJake]

Not tested it yet. I'll see about number crunching soon. I doubt it's anything too complex.

[@1988Aleksandar]

@@DDRJake sweet :o it drives me nuts not knowing but i'm broken that way.

[@shadowmeister5432]

Now do a builders playthrough with settlements

[@WiseApeMan24]

So not to be a downer, but what exactly did this dlc add from a game play perspective? From what it looks like here, all you can do with the settlements is trade surplus resources for other resources which if you know how to build a functioning city and survive you would have all the resource production in the city anyway. I mean a new scenario is always welcome but I was honestly hoping for something to finally add some legs to endless mode but still seems like the some old strategy is key and the population cap hasn't gotten any larger, so...I'm not quite seeing the worth here.

[@DC-yh1on]

I think this potentially paves the way for managing multiple settlements (maybe next game?) kind of like in Anno where you have to manage multiple resources in different cities.

[@WiseApeMan24]

@@DC-yh1on Oh I could totally see the merit in that mechanic, here's hoping for the future.

[@Bloodlyshiva]

@@DC-yh1on I see more of the Impressions City Builders in this. Make a city, make a colony, manage relations.

[@VATROU]

@@Bloodlyshiva Frostpunk 2 A Cold New World? Now with annoying neighbors.

[@Ramon609]

What if you played any map on builder endless and with settlements

[@hohhoch3617]

I'm not entirely sure this footage is real given the game crashes for me every fucking time I try to use the communication screen.

[@martinbudinsky8912]

Did you really say secure the bacon instead of beacon? :D

[@TheVoeman]

builder plus settelments?

[@Nikolai508]

Wasn't modding support scrapped because their game engine is a bit of a mess so it was turning into a nightmare?

[@geitegud4282]

the reason this is deathless is not because he is nice it is because death is inefficient

[@DDRJake]

Correct.

[@dr.penpen]

Challenge: No industry. you cant build coalmines, steelworks or Walldrills. or: Amozon Warehouse: you must deliver all orders of the colonies as fast as possible, even if you have to dismantle the city. but you can never call in favours. (bc they paid online). second one is more of a mental challenge i guess, but it woud be fun to see you cringe.

[@kestrel3288]

Ok Captain, I've watched them all now, and I am BEGGING, like the humble automaton I am, that you put me back to work soon!!?? There must be something you haven't done, or maybe one you wish you could redo better. PLEASE?

[@DDRJake]

That's a lot of watching, but I am utterly tapped out of Frostpunk challenges.

[@kestrel3288]

@@DDRJake one run I would like to see is how to not only be two steps ahead of the game, but plan a beautiful layout which is also functional. But also a layout which compensates any challenge the game throws. The other is doing all purpose cruce route, so that you can demonstrate say top 10 cruces that break the game when used together. Including a full Order and Faith version, but limited to a non Endless run, instead on a campaign. But honestly, just you playing for 6hrs so I can watch anything would be amazing. Don't give up on us Captain!

[@lexakogut7278]

do I have to buy the DLC to have settlements in endless mode available?

[@DDRJake]

I believe so, yes.

[@lexakogut7278]

@@DDRJake thanks

[@antoningavrel2808]

why build the cemetery so early? 48:30

[@DDRJake]

It was a bad decision, but I wanted to be nice to my people.

[@antoningavrel2808]

Ah to add some challenge! Its sad everything is scriptted, the game is really nice but because of the lack of random events it quickly lose its favor...

[@Unni_Havas]

Are there no more steam cores to be found after the storm with the double freeze?

[@DDRJake]

There are infinite steam cores to be found in the frostlands no matter when, but they are more frequent before the 2nd storm.

[@Dethrox]

oh i see.. so if you check the settlements option you automaticly going for ''on the edge'' ..map doesnt matter cool :D

[@1988Aleksandar]

I was wondering about the 1st Settlement that you can discover. Is it scripted to be always *Granny's Hot Springs* or it can be something else? It was the 1st settlement that you discovered in your capping playthrough and now too. So let me ask the knowledge @DDRJake

[@DDRJake]

I suspect it will always be the Hippy Commune, since it's fitting that you find a food producing settlement when food is your most pressing concern.

[@bleiefantomet]

Hype

[@princecuddle]

I want to see an endless extreme playthrough where you do everything as optimally as possible. Child labor, house of prayer, and so on.

[@DDRJake]

I don't think it would be terribly exciting. It would just be a speedrun to getting automatons running all industry.

[@oldrelic2690]

does this include the XBOX version?

[@Nickunparalleled]

1:21:20 Me too ❤

[@edwinpap1516]

will jake ever be done with Frostpunk?

[@DDRJake]

Outlook bleak. Child-only run incomming.

[@jaankuus3063]

Put child centers near medic or engineers, depends witch way you go.

[@yusufrizvi7219]

Can you sign purpose laws in OTE?

[@DDRJake]

No, only adaption laws.

[@NYMSIS_]

Ever tried Rebel Inc. Great game Realli reminded me of this game. Great content.cheers

[@DDRJake]

I played Rebel Inc and thought it was terrible. Nowhere near as great as Plague Inc.

[@Elsneakakaze]

No child labor but still using thumpers. i know coal mines are a big investment but thumpers require dozens of people.

[@DDRJake]

labour was not an issue here. Sticking to thumpers allowed me to invest elsewhere and save those researches and steam cores.

[@Elsneakakaze]

@@DDRJake and the cores became automations. I understand now.

[@cmcmanaway]

My opinion is why there’s no modelling in this game that’s because no one would buy the DLC

[@DracoVictorious]

Totally, that's why I've never played dawnguard in skyrim or nuka world in fallout 4 /s Someone in the pinned comment above had an idea that I totally agree with, release the modding tools as a final dlc. Doesn't impede the dlc releases and vastly extends the lifespan of the game.

[@HarDarkable]

"Preview"... 6 hours video KEKW

[@je.m3320]

This is not the on the edge game