Frozen Makes NO Sense

[@jasmine511]

"I know the cold doesn't bother you, but i'm sure hunger will!"

[@theawkwarddolphin4752]

Maybe magical beings don't need food?

[@dontcallmenymphadora5572]

The awkward dolphin lol yeah because that’s how that works

[@Mirrorcomics24]

They probably have a cat flap

[@juliusroman8616]

Diglett Animates they’re referring to the ice palace. She has no food.

[@astralrobin4727]

I don't see the problem, Elsa could have just eaten snow cones for the rest of her life!

[@kaylatarapaskoski2390]

One thing that always bothered me was that the trolls specifically tell their parents that Elsa needs to learn to control her powers and what does her father do? "Conceal it, don't feel it." Like what? 😑 That's the exact opposite of what she needs to do. When she was afraid as a kid her parents should have comforted her not tell her to hide away.

[@joshuadesautels]

They interpret "Fear will be your enemy," as referring to OTHER PEOPLE'S fear, when Grand Pabbie ACTUALLY meant ELSA'S OWN fear, yet somehow never occurs to them that he could have just as easily meant Elsa's own fear.

[@somethinunameit637]

Sweet child, I love you with all my heart and I don't want you to be afraid of your magic but you almost killed your sister so wear these gloves, never do magic again but try to control it and none of us are ever seeing the outside world again unless I need to convinently die to make you queen.

[@artbytesia]

Kenzie Taylor It's a textbook example of bad writing. A certain thing needs to happen for the story to work, so that thing is shoehorned in from nowhere.

[@alexandruandercou9851]

Maybe the trolls actually din't know what they were doing but because people and more the other trolls aspectead the old troll to know what to do it just improvised and gave the most safer solution in his oppinion.

[@artbytesia]

Alexandru Andercou Umm...that doesn't make much sense to me.

[@sweetpea2604]

Hans: “We finish each other’s-“ Anna: “Sandwiches” Hans: “That’s what I was gonna say” J: “No it was not you were going to say sentences” That’s what I was gonna say..........wait

[@raizaadan8441]

OOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHH

[@SuperWillieL]

When did they share a sandwich

[@clover-il7tf]

7:34

[@ZONVERIE]

Woah

[@tonyhou9246]

I laughed my vocal cords out and died

[@bestb.6724]

HE MISSED A SNOW PUN! "Frozen makes SNOW sense" I kept expecting it but was dissatisfied when I didn't hear it.

[@mr.midnight23]

Ikr

[@miamoira7067]

Best Craze ikr

[@josephmachado6081]

ICEolation

[@brianshutlz5027]

@@josephmachado6081 exactly the cure for ice magic....Ice-olation... Some may say it's cold but everyone was cool with it.

[@drewcantdraw7785]

alsnow, alsnow, actually, actually

[@reubenm.d.5218]

I love Frozen. My biggest problem with it is this: THEY ARE ALL AWAKE FOR THREE DAYS AND NIGHTS STRAIGHT!! Think about it.

[@ot7biasedmashups]

@Charlotte Stringer "Are you saying that I'm crazy?!"

[@betka5791]

Glad it’s not Minecraft, the phantoms would’ve killed half the characters

[@nobodyfamousX]

Are they? I feel like the plot takes 48 hours at most.

[@megdoesstuffs]

5:21 "You'll be fine Elsa" "NOPE!!!!" Laughing my head off

[@quethesparkle]

Ok so Elsa can make ice... And ice clothing... sure. Fine. But WHERE DOES THE DRESS SHE WAS WEARING GO? DID IT BECOME ICE? DID IT JUST DISSOLVE? And also, why doesn't the ice dress melt at the end sequence? [Besides for decency reasons...]

[@Hope-ce9oy]

maybe Elsa is so cold that it keeps her dress from melting?

[@itsameprincesspeach]

I mean it might be how cold it is. Olaf didn't melt because of the cold cloud thing

[@amethyst_cat9532]

THAT ALWAYS BOTHERED ME SO MUCH! What was with the high heels? What happened to her sleeves? Where did the fabric go? Why is she walking so weird after changing clothes? (It always weirds me out how her hips just thrust from side to side when she walks with little to no hip movement for the rest of the movie.)

[@crackedemerald4930]

Because... It's not ice, it's glass cloth

[@quethesparkle]

Ok, so people are explaining how her dress stays at the end... BUT SERIOUSLY WHERE DID THE CORONATION OUTFIT GO??

[@Talonistrying]

also, does anyone else realize his son's name is Luke and when he says "forget it happened," he waves his hand like he's trying to Jedi mind-trick someone? idk I'm reading too much into this.

[@ikerrodriguez7493]

Talon you are very observant

[@lumin6075]

Talon That is a great observation.

[@ikerrodriguez7493]

Marie Mann you sound cool.

[@lumin6075]

isvi rodriguez Thanks

[@dathoneybadger2954]

That's the point.....

[@katgor42]

Frozen doesn't make sense. 8 year old girl: So you've chosen death

[@RogueWolf2006]

Thought that'd be the first comment I'd see, and boy was I right

[@liesl5313]

Don't you just love the irony of the trolls saying *"fear will be your enemy"* making Elsa *cower in fear* 😐

[@anonymousfellow8879]

THAT bit of irony I’m pretty sure was intentional. And although I DO NOT consider OUAT credible at all (it’s a soap. Just...no), the King even having that text/saying “born” vs “cursed” suggests that Elsa’s powers were probably to some degree genetic

[@justakid7991]

That was the point.

[@sarcasticsen8379]

V!!!!

[@liesl5313]

Water Pearl From a writing vantage point it was purposeful, But in the mindset of the Troll who said it, It made no sense from his character's point of view

[@lexie7395]

Yeah I think those trolls are the actual "bad guys" in the movie because they wiped Anna's memory and scared Elsa for the rest of her life

[@toriiwoodd]

did Ben approve of this video being made? I think in Ben’s mind this is the only movie that makes sense

[@ayanaalles5934]

lmao :D

[@needtoknow1989]

His mind can be persuaded.

[@angeladavidson2350]

Tori Wood Because of the clear ice? Lol

[@ayanaalles5934]

Angela Davidson I literally wish I could like your comment fifty times

[@gabshickey9743]

I thinking the same thing

[@supersparerib]

You know what doesn't make sense in Frozen? Troll: Fear is her greatest enemy. Dad: OK LETS LOCK HER UPPPPPPP

[@DragonGoddess18]

Too many people miss that and blame the trolls but,yes. I agree

[@Nopeasaurus]

The trolls to Elsa: "FEAR WILL BE YOUR ENEMY" Dad: LET ME MAKE HER EVEN MORE AFRAID.

[@abbiecharlene7]

my immediate reaction to the title was “ur right”

[@TDIdialgagirl]

Important Elaborate?

[@abbiecharlene7]

Carmen Austins no

[@johnstrong7138]

Something that doesn’t make sense to me is the fact that surely Christof bringing Anna to Hans, to save her life because Christof loves her and he wanted to save her life even if that meant she wouldn’t end up with him, would be the act of true love that would break the spell.

[@dennaejeankoshelanyk9081]

ikr lol

[@johnhogue9402]

I always thought that the act of true love had to be performed BY Anna, and not FOR Anna

[@adamstryzlakyr2720]

sister vs sister that spelling of kristoff burnt my eyes

[@luke6612]

@@johnhogue9402 that is the way that i view it as well. she has to thaw her own heart by performing the act of true love, not by someone else doing it for her.

[@luke6612]

@Memyselfandkai :/ Yes, but it wasn't Elsa's love that cured her, it was Anna's love *for* Elsa.

[@aliyahshelf-painter974]

You're right it doesnt make any sense It make DOLLAS

[@junkuribo5150]

Fair point.

[@becca3743]

Ba dum tsss

[@alyssavallier9368]

LOL

[@philipfreytag6746]

HEHEHHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEH LOL LOL LOL LOL

[@khanhlinhholden6617]

Tru

[@humanperson3095]

8:02 this is why I believe the "Hans was turned evil by the Trolls so Kristoff could be with Anna" theory

[@tobybartels8426]

Jessyka Person : Combined with Anna was born with fire powers to complement her sister's ice powers, which the trolls got rid of while they were still latent. That's why Grandpabbie really wanted to remove all of the magic from Anna.

[@xianartman]

Actually would make a little sense.

[@KrisL418]

Jessyka Person Yes! They need to talk about this!

[@c.jthepurplesilverninja6949]

Jessyka Person yeah,I agree on that actually makes sense

[@loveabbygrace]

Jessyka Person if you watch the carlin brothers video about hans being a mirror, it will explain why your theory is wrong

[@imaginerana670]

Every “bad guy” ever-tell the hero your plan so they can find a hole in it and stop you. Good job 👏

[@artbytesia]

Gigi L They just do that because pride gets the better of them and they think the hero can't stop them. There actually is something out there that pokes fun at that: the T.U.F.F. Puppy episode Doom and Gloom. In it, Larry gets fed up with Verminious Snaptrap's constant abuse of him and the fact Snaptrap always tells T.U.F.F. his evil plans, so he quits working for him and forms his own alliance. And he actually proves to be a capable villain, mostly because he never tells the good guys his plans. Pretty good episode, if you ask me.

[@peterlane1391]

You know who didn't do that? Ultron. Best villain ever.

[@fear_toxin]

"I know cold doesn't bother you, but hunger probably will...?"

[@applesnappleXD]

I honestly believed the trolls are the true villains of this movie. I also believe Hans was a true good hearted prince in the beginning and he really did fallen for Anna. But when the trolls met her, and saw that Christoff liked her. They cursed Hans and made him evil. So Anna can marry his Christof instead of Hans. The trolls did said Hans was a small problem that needed to be taken care off. I can't just forget the fact of when Hans met Anna and when he under the boat, he smiled when she walked away. A real genuine smile, not an evil one. Frozen has so many plot holes, I can't even. I just can't.

[@Musikur]

If they do that as a reveal in Frozen 2 it would be legitimately awesome though.

[@georgia4159]

applesnappleXD this is an awesome theory!!

[@stefanstefan7404]

Film Theory!!! You got this from Film Theory!!!

[@kendahamilton]

Isn't this from Film Theory? 🤔

[@applesnappleXD]

Kenda Hamilton Well yes and no. Matpat did do a film theory on this but he wasn't the first one to come up with it. Some person on Tumblr did. I just said I believe this theory. I never claimed this as my own lol 😂

[@ajsguineapigs7942]

It also dose not make senses how Anna is so alone, that she even talking to the pictures on the wall, but there are like lots of servants that she could chat with any time.

[@stickersonalaptop7439]

Guina films right?? Honestly, what bugged me was "who knew we had 8000 salad plates"...you were a lonely person. You should have explored that ENTIRE castle. You should have known that, Anna! What were you doing?? Just talking to those pics??

[@robynwilson9227]

Exactly. She'd have had nannies and caregivers to look after her and care for her since a King and Queen are EXTREMELY busy. Even with reduced staff there'd be people to speak to. And a huge castle and grounds to explore.

[@newperve]

They specifically mention that they they are reducing the staff to keep Elsa's powers secret. This also implies they're keeping the staff that are least chatty. Of course this is bound to be noticed and people are going to wonder if there's some sort of fnancial crisis or what's gooing on, leading to uncertainty and possible instablity. So he's a bad king as well a a bad father.

[@ajsguineapigs7942]

He's actually not too bad. He was doing what the trolls told him to do. I mean the trolls are the only ones who know anything about Elsa's powers, so it makes sense for him to trust them. If even if it means all those changes.

[@newperve]

@Guina films The trolls never said to isolate someone they just said needed to avoid fear. The idea to keep her hidden until she learns to control her power was his and it had nothing to do with reducing fear. It had to do with keeping it secret. What's the first thing we hear him say "This is getting out of hand.". Not "are you and your sister OK?" or even "What's wrong?". He is the fear. He is her enemy.

[@michaelinthebathroom7560]

I think my favorite SCB line of all time is "also also, actually actually"

[@mcocbuspeople4988]

Jonathon would be excellent at Cinemasins. (Ding)

[@wave7746]

MCOC BusPeople, LMFAO

[@hiddencitypictures7584]

Nice comment

[@ricocarpenter2189]

Nice

[@bravobird9435]

Yeah somehow being good at criticism is a sin to cinemasins

[@mshippy9856]

True

[@AbsolutelyStudios]

J: *pushes coffee cup across table Earth: *is destroyed*

[@clover-il7tf]

“Hey, can you pass the salt” **sweats intensely**

[@zoeyc3855]

Hans: "I mean, it's crazy" Anna: "What?" Hans: "We both like eating-" Anna: "Sentences"

[@horellano]

That’s what I was going say 😂

[@nicoyazawa9054]

Matpat made a theory that the trolls are the true villain, you should check it out, it explains Han's actions

[@allis_o2628]

Everything about Olaf makes sense.... EXCEPT HIS ENTIRE EXISTANCE! We jumped from ice powers to the power to create life pretty quickly there, and it somehow happens off-screen??

[@junjunjamore7735]

It didn't happen of screen, she created him during "Let It Go"

[@markoliimatainen2565]

Yeah, it happened on let it go scene. Also Creating golems are commong spell in many fantasy settings. Like in Heroes of might and magic, there is 4 element of magic, Fire, Earth, Air and Water. Each element has summon Fire/Water/Air/Earth elemental. D&D has too etc. So Olaf and Marshmallow are basically a golems.

[@allis_o2628]

But do we actually SEE him come to life? I only remember Elsa building him together and then going along singing and building her castle, and then in the next scene Anna and Kristof meet him in the woods and he's suddenly alive? Marshmallow does remind of a golem in considering he obeys Elsa's bidding, but Olaf she didn't even realize that she created until he returns with Anna.

[@leilasundin6642]

I think it was matpat (maybe?) who make a theory on how Elsa and rapunzel are related, which explains her life powers (it sounds a bit off landish but it’s interesting)

[@allis_o2628]

Yeah I've seen that theory around the web as well, but since it's not canon, the movie itself still leaves it a big plot hole...

[@A-Dino-Named-Mennany]

6:42 I mean, a relationship and engagement are VERY different things. I think it's more acceptable to start a kinda relationship with someone you've only known for a short time (especially since they did get to know each other quite well), than it is to get engaged to someone you met on the exact same day, so not even spending time with each other for a whole day.

[@wintersnow998]

"Everything about him makes sense!" Except there's no explanation for how Elsa can create life and once Elsa sees Olaf she can suddenly create the behemoth that is Marshmallow.

[@mikaelafox6106]

WinterSnow 99 Olaf is the rough draft. 🤣

[@grayblackhelm6468]

Olaf isn’t alive. He’s animate. Very different thing.

[@skepticpsychologist5458]

WinterSnow 99, there is literally nothing about this movie that makes sense. But, Hans is just the worst most inconsistent conceptualization of a character I've ever had the facepalm inducing incredulity to witness. Hans is like a game where you fold a piece of paper and each child draws a different part of a body - except with personality, motivation and modus operandi.

[@DekuOfPower]

Skeptic Psychologist Sven. Sven makes sense.

[@quethesparkle]

It was sarcastic. Olaf makes no sense.

[@AlashiaTuol]

One theory I've seen is that the trolls "got the fiancee out of the way" so Kristoff could get with Anna by enchanting Hans towards the end of the movie. In this theory, all of Hans' actions before his almost-kiss with Anna were genuine, which is why they completely contradict everything he says and does afterwards.

[@madisongillam5366]

AlashiaTuol 10/10 theory. It’s the only one that makes sense imo

[@AlashiaTuol]

Here's the full article I read that suggested it. It's from a comedy website, which is why it's constantly sarcastic, but the theory's fairly solid, though it starts out with its weaker points first. www.cracked.com/blog/you-really-have-no-idea-who-villain-frozen-is/

[@theegyptiangamer2530]

I made a huge reply debunking that theory from film theory and my reply there fits here as well.Everything below this was my comment on that same theory: I completely disagree with this theory and I even disagree with the idea with the idea that his twist didn`t make sense. I think it was pretty well executed and maybe even that Hans is one of the best Disney villains to date. Please hear me out. Hans wanted to marry Anna, to get a good reputation in Arendelle and after that he wants to kill off Elsa. Until he realises Annas heart is frozen and she will die this can all easily take a few months to execute optimally. In the ice castle only the two men from Weselton want to kill her and the worst risk he can take is letting Elsa already die in front of his eyes. There is actually a good chance that a heartbroken Anna would blame Hans if he did nothing and all the other people of Arendelle that were there would be able to tell it to Anna. He also didn`t know that Elsa didn`t intend to come back at all. only after Anna explains the situation when she`d back in the castle he understands he needs to hurry with his plan, because if Anna dies before their wedding he has a problem like you say in the video. However, he has litterally no way of saving Anna at that moment. A kiss from him would mean absolutely nothing, because from his side it is not a true loves kiss. Because of this he cannot keep his true intentions a secret from Anna. So Anna would not marry him and in a very short time the whole castle would know. This means that Anna must die immediately so that she cannot tell anyone his true intentions and the only way to do that was like he did in the movie. He also cannot kill Anna quicker, because he would not be able to explain a stab wound or something like that so does the only logical thing at that moment. Only now it is important to kill Elsa quickly because otherwise she could chose someone else or even get a king herself at some point. Without Anna there is no reason that Hans would be the next ruler if Elsa is furst ruler for some time. So again he does the only logical thing, but killing Elsa of so soon wasn`t the plan earlier. About the blood argument I have to say that we don`t see any signs of blood relatives to Anna and Elsa based on the fact that they surely would be on the coronation and we don`t see anyone. Secondly, then why wouldn`t they have ruled earlier when Elsa was still to young to rule? We don`t have any sign of there being a living relative and even if they had someone far away it is not even proved that the kingdom of Arendelle even works that way. To go to the trolls I find a curse from them even more unlikely, because their goal is to let Anna and kristoff marry. So from their side if they were evil they should let Hans commit suiside or let him forget everything and leave. However, they would certainly not let Hans kill Anna, because that would let their plans fail completely. Think about it! Why would they try to kill of Anna? I think these explanations should complete solve the "plot holes" around Hanses character and twist. I honestly think that his clever plan and the fact that he tries to be a good king for the people of Arendelle (The fact that he is a villain doesn`t mean he cannot do anything nice or even let him be a good king) make him a very good character. I would like to hear other opinions about this so please leave a reply if you like ;)

[@SpiderSmoothie]

I actually like that theory. There's too much that doesn't line up with Hans' character before the big reveal. When you see him just meet Ana he seems so genuine. The shot of him after he falls in the water. There is nobody around to see him act except his own horse. At that time he really seems to like her. Him being the bad guy never sat well with me. I think they just did that so Ana could leave him for Christoph without looking like a slut in the eyes of some more conservative viewers.

[@silverandexact]

Troll magic Hans is head-canon.

[@gracemellen2552]

The trolls: you must learn to control your powers Me: wait if she can’t control her powers what was the beginning of the movie?

[@unemilifleur]

By the way, the movie makes no sense because the story changed many many times. The trolls were just supposed to give a prophecy, Elsa was supposed to become a true bad guy (''let the storm rage on''), Anna did marry a stranger, ... In fact, it would be super interresting if you made a video about the original story they had in mind for Frozen and how it changed. It should be easy enough to find the pieces and connect them together.

[@artbytesia]

I'd ask why we couldn't have that, but I know the answer: the song Let It Go. It's one of the reasons I don't like that song.

[@unemilifleur]

@@artbytesia actually, Let it go was already there in the earlier versions of the story. From what I’ve heard, they taught that having a main character (Elsa) become a vilain wouldn’t set a good example for kids. But they knew that Let it go was had potential, so they had to change the story while keeping Let it go.

[@artbytesia]

@@unemilifleur Where did you hear that?

[@unemilifleur]

@@artbytesia I don’t remember, I’m sorry. I just watched a lot of making of and cut songs videos when Frozen came out

[@artbytesia]

@@unemilifleur Oh, OK.

[@nicolawalton3754]

If the trolls had just been forthright about the whole 'love is the key' thing, 95% of the problems in the movie would never have happened.

[@gigissketches2603]

And we wouldn't have a movie

[@KaelKnight]

Nicola Jones yeah you can say that about most movies you look at it at the very beginning go we'll stay at just done this like a normal person would have oh yeah the rest of the movie wouldn't have happened most movies are based on the fact of them not acting like a normal person would have making a dumb decision at the beginning that causes the rest of the movie that actually take place

[@nicolawalton3754]

Don't know what I expected - they are trolls after all.

[@LaDracul]

I think the trolls have their own agenda...look up Nordic folklore, they kidnap humans and manipulate them to do their bidding. Plus, they were the cause of the trouble in the original story....

[@artbytesia]

@@gigissketches2603 And some of us would be just fine with that. Especially with better recent Disney movies out there like Bolt, Big Hero 6, Wreck-It Ralph, Zootopia, Raya and the Last Dragon, and Encanto.

[@obsydian_jay]

You had a child?! When? Also congratulations.

[@gonnadrift1690]

Mølly F ye

[@regulusblack4294]

He had a kid named Luke in November if 2017

[@linexi]

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[@nate4373]

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[@sweetpea2604]

1:39 Well someone’s been busy hint hint *nudge* *nudge* 😉

[@kiaralouise6980]

_"Olaf. Everything about him makes sense!"_ 😂😂😂 Olaf is literally the best 💕

[@Trashpanda_trailmix]

I'm gonna make a comment that's pretty bad and entirely opinion so don't take too much offense to it. But... Olaf ruined the movie. His character is stupidly uncharming and adds so much unnecessary gags and just plain awful screen time. For example, my least favorite part of the movie, when Anna and Kristoff fall down the cliff, Olaf feels the need to add the comment that he doesn't have bones. While this is just supposed to relieve tension and make you love the characters goofy quirks, it really just makes the situation awkward and feels forced more than anything. Just when I was starting to care for this movie it throws an unnecessary one liner in a stressful situation that shouldn't have evoked any emotion but concern. Along with this point comes the idea that many movies have this type of comic relief, so it can't be that bad right? Wrong. Comic relief is for when you just got the end of a situation that is usually the climax, these lazily written lines in frozen don't even have anything to do with what we should be worrying about. Comic relief can also be used well with a character who is specifically sensing tension and tries to help the other characters lighten up, not the audience. This sort of interaction can be helpful for the relationship development and to add some break between action that would otherwise be filled with silence. Ex. Character A: Whew, I can't believe we were able to save the mayor without destroying anything this time. Comic relief: yeah, the building didn't break at all *building falls* Comic relief: Well crap. That's coming out of our paycheck. Anyways sorry for my ramblings I get passionate about writing and character usage.

[@groenfan851]

Fancy Jammie K Ahoyhoy There, fellow KZbinrino! He's cute, but did you ever stop to wonder what happened to all the How to Train Your Dragon fans? They loved Frozen instead just because Disney was slapped on the cover. Frozen made no sense there was no plot, if kids have small attention spans, then movies like The Brave Little Toaster or How to Train Your Dragon, or Spirit stallion of the Cimmaron can be followed way easier. But no, we have to demand new movies being made instead of enjoying the classics and giving poor writers a break. If we all just watched our favourite older movies once every couple years, it will stay fresh for years to come. Join kids on it , too. Have them appreciate older cartoons and kid friendly talkies that will be something even more magical to them, movies that deal with real life stuff like The Land Before Time, or Bambi, Semi scary films that are nostalgic like Brave Little Toaster, or Oliver and Company, even King of the hill, or the Simpson's, in most cases, are perfect family oriented programs. The early Simpsons and later King of the Hill episodes I'd recommend to today's youth.

[@turtleyawesome7233]

🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶'IN SUMMERRRRRR!!!!!!!'🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

[@Csuccsolina]

i hate olaf xD

[@adamethridge7824]

Fancy Jammie K no f him and f the big snow man

[@angelwatcher374]

Cristoff and Ana spent more time getting to know each other than Hans and Ana did. Another thing is that they didn't just automatically look at each other and decide that they should be with each other. Ana literally took one look at Hans and immediately started flirting with him. With Cristoff, Ana just saw a man who could help her find her sister and needed supplies that he couldn't afford. She gave him supplies in exchange for his knowledge of nature and survival skills. During the adventure, they both risked their lives to save each other several times. Ana and Hans only spent a couple of hours together before they decided to get married. They both cared about each other when the other got hurt. They both put each other first. They took initiative when they had to save each other. They worked together as a team to accomplish their goals. All Ana and Hans did was talk.

[@maxwillsch2938]

You speak the truth, firend

[@janNowa]

Also, kissing after a day together is different from getting engaged after a few hours.

[@angelwatcher374]

Milla Saunders Exactly.

[@maxwillsch2938]

Also, I don't think the kiss took place on the same day as the rest of the movie. I think it's at least a few days later, maybe even a week

[@angelwatcher374]

diabolicWatcher [DW] I think so, too. Usually the Super Carlin Brothers are really good about being accurate. I can't believe how many flaws are in J's observation. He must really hate Frozen for some reason.

[@allyc9161]

How did Olaf know which room Anna was in? Also, do carrot nose keys magically retain their shape after being used for a certain lock? And if so, where exactly does this magic come from? The carrot was added by Anna, not Elsa, so did her life-creating ice powers infused into the carrot as Olaf wore it on his face for the next day? Ok I’ve asked enough questions.

[@artbytesia]

Ally C My question is, how did he know she was even locked in a room to begin with?

[@irlcupcake]

one answer: his olaf senses

[@artbytesia]

@@irlcupcake He's not Pinkie Pie, he can't make that kind of stuff work.

[@irlcupcake]

Tesia Blake maybe he’s not pinkie pie but that doesn’t mean he can’t have his own olaf senses

[@artbytesia]

@@irlcupcake It does to me if it's not made explicitly clear.

[@delaneym.4366]

"Oh yeah, Ben definitely wrote this."

[@Rutanachan]

Regarding Hans' behavior, I think he didn't wanted Elsa to die immediately, because that could've made Anna suspicious. Pretending to have done everything in his might to save Elsa from harm puts him in a much better spot. He never intended to kill Anna either - at least not right away. He just took up the chance when she was actually dying herself. If everything went according to his plan, he'd just married Anna, then stage an accident to kill off Elsa 1-2 years in the future, and then either ruled at Anna's side or kill her in "an accident" in the near future as well. He was in for the long term - but the events that happened around him enabled him to get along quicker then he anticipated. So his only real flaw was actually not to make sure Anna is dead before he claims she's dead - that alone broke his neck.

[@jaidadraco]

jumping on the dad has terrible plans and is literally the worst train: i remember seeing this theory floating around tumblr about how the special dungeon cell for elsa had to have been built by her parents in case she completely lost control and needed to be controlled/locked up because there was no way hans would have been able to make the special hand restrains just for her, so they had to have been there before

[@wolframstahl1263]

It makes more sense if you just assume that every time anyone in this movie should make an important decision, come up with a reasonable plan or just think the whole situation through, they are just too distracted by that nagging question... bark up ... or bark down?

[@scifiwriter1006]

Wolfram Stahl ROFL! Brilliant!

[@pokemonlover3064]

The Duke's hair makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!

[@PeruvianPotato]

*heir

[@artbytesia]

The only reason they did it was for the sake of a cheap joke.

[@secondchance8093]

0:47 ICEolation No..? Sorry I'll go now... If you've read this already.... Then just Let It Go. Edit: Thanks for the likes! If you didn't like it, you deserve a PUNishment! Ok FINE I'll stop now...

[@thenintenbro9193]

Second Chance that's exactly what I thought

[@q-dawg2443]

I came down here literally to type just that

[@avacollins3552]

Second Chance exactly

[@sugawithmytae9708]

Second Chance me too 😂

[@quinnjamin333]

Eyyyyyyyyy

[@AngieGaur]

poor Elsa man... like when she was locked up in the dungeon her cuffs were made specially for her and you know that since it's covering her hands but what makes that even more upsetting is that Hans wouldn't have had time to make them which means her parents were prepared to lock up their own daughter because of her powers 🙃🙃🙃

[@davidsrq]

AngieGaur wow, that sadly makes sense

[@SpiderSmoothie]

Never thought about that one. That is depressing! I knew her parents were crappy but that takes the cake right there!

[@marsh8938]

Yet another reason to hate her parents

[@meridawatson]

AngieGaur no, I searched up and those cuffs are normal...not made specifically for elsa.

[@AngieGaur]

oh really? That's cool, I've never even heard of those before. Where is it normal for them to be used?

[@carmenearnest9285]

why is elsa the only one who has powers?..did the king have a mistress?

[@AustinD_YT]

could be, or did the queen have a side love that then inherited his powers to Elsa but Anna was born from the king so she doesn't have powers?

[@sunshinesolace3540]

Maybe the Queen had a sibling who also had powers? I mean, I was watching once upon a time and their mum had two sisters. The one with ice powers accidentally killed one of the other sisters with her ice powers and I cant exactly remember the rest but its possible.

[@witchluisamultifandom1212]

she's muggleborn

[@86upsmaya]

There is a theory that Elza and Rapunzel are sisters, the King of Arendell adopted her...etc

[@federicatrionfetti]

They explained this in Frozen 2, go watch it!

[@douglasbyrd2944]

Thing is; we don't have to wonder if Anna would get re-hurt when learning about her sister's magic. Absolutely nothing bad happened to her when she saw her sister using magic in the movie, which means there was never any reason to keep the magic a secret from her.

[@Silentgrace11]

These are the things I've said for years! Additionally, maybe it's because I've studied forensics for a few years, but I caught on pretty quickly that Hans was going to be the antagonist. The way everything was set up just didn't set right for me, and when everyone was like "what did you think of the big reveal?" I was like "what? That the snowman comes to life? That true love can be familial love?"

[@Silentgrace11]

I mean, people asking me how I reacted to the reveal happened before SuperCarlinBrothers made a video disproving Elsa's part in it ;) Anna saving herself is a bigger plot twist than Hans by far.

[@SpiderSmoothie]

I didn't get to have the big reveal. My cousin told me before I ever saw the movie so I didn't get any surprise. Lol.

[@clampies3815]

It was obvious, from the moment he said "I have 12 brothers" I knew it was him.

[@Silentgrace11]

I think that I part made me suspicious, at least. Then they had the lovely couple song, where it sounded a little off--and then I realized he was basically always a syllable or so behind Anna whenever they sang in harmony, which basically told me "okay, this guy is definitely not the Prince Charming this naive girl thinks he is." Even if you didn't recognize those two details as suspicious, though, I'd argue that the most obvious detail in the film is the fact that the only other person perfectly fine with this "love at first sight" business is Hans himself. Anna I could get - she's ditzy, oblivious, and pretty darn naive to the world since she's never really gotten to leave the castle all that much. Someone with Hans' alleged past though? If he wasn't being manipulative as hell, he wouldn't have gone for it. Perhaps if they left it at that you could say "love at first sight? Fairytale and story book logic!" But every single person who heard about the engagement was horrified. If that doesn't give you a "hey, this guy is no good" vibe, then I don't know what would.

[@fiftyshadesofgrayjedi8654]

J, this video made my day!! I love your commitment to taking a number 2 all over something your sibling loves. Pure Gold .

[@DoctorDisney]

2:25 I am in the field of medicine, and YES, Smiles are GOOD! :D

[@DoctorDisney]

Anytime ^_^

[@Wisdomseyes1]

If you watch “The Film Theorist” video on the topic, Hanz is theorized to be the mirror from the original story. Basically he takes on the personality of whoever he talked to last

[@jeromealday614]

That's an idiot theory

[@marleyrose8634]

Jerome Alday the super carlin brothers day the same thing in a different video and they made some good points in my opinion

[@danieli2872]

I believe what the troll said about hearts and minds, has more to do with The Snow Queen by Hans Christian Andersen than the elements of the story that made it into Frozen.

[@kappa_studios]

Right?? I was in that play 2 years ago and that's excactlt what I thought of

[@kiaralouise6980]

THOSE SOCKS *_WERE_* AMAZING 😍⚡

[@deoncollins8624]

I thought they were a little bit flashy :D

[@tanishapatil2765]

I didn’t see the socks

[@min_i247]

omg! XD

[@catholiclunalovegood8227]

I don't get the emojis

[@mcginnismoogle89]

Also, isn't ICE their main export??? Having a queen that can literally manifest ICE from out of nowhere is kind of an economic win for them...

[@FunnyFany]

Supply and Demand. The more of something there is, the less valuable it becomes. Unless they're the only ice suppliers in the entire world, in whoch case they'd have complete power over the ice industry and we all know what happens when monopolies exist.

[@smolson8471]

Babs likes cartoons Wait, what happens when monopolies exist?

[@markoliimatainen2565]

A warm welcome story book, Elsa actually starts trading ice with Eldora.

[@joshuaong8205]

Alexis Lyle watch the film theorists video about black panther

[@smolson8471]

Joshua Ong I don't want to because it'll be spoilers for the movie and I haven't seen it yet...

[@ellianamaselli7267]

Okay, so my little brother loved this movie when it first came out--I'm talking watch it every day and sing the songs in the shower kind of obsess--and the more I saw it--which was quite often--the more I noticed things that didn't make sense. You touched on a lot of these, and some I didn't think of as well. (Good job there, by the way.) But here are some more that I've noticed through my countless journeys to Arendelle and the world of Disney: As Anna is in the castle freezing to death and too weak to do anything, Olaf finds her by unlocking and opening the door with a carrot, right? Well, if it was that easy, Anna just wasted 13 years begging Elsa to unlock and open HER door when all it really took was a carrot. Is that not depressing? Also, why do the doors always lock/unlock from the outside in these movies? How often is that actually the case? Most of the doors I've seen lock/unlock from the inside, but whatever. You know, it's not like it really matters or anything... Right? Third, I'd like to point out that if the Duke of Weselton was as old as he looked--which was certainly after about age 60--how was he able to jump and dance like he did at the party? Wouldn't it like, I don't know, break his back or something? Finally, how can Elsa make clothing and shoes? Clothing is made of fabric. I thought Elsa had ice magic, not instant-sewing powers. Ice skates are made from leather and metal blades. What on earth do cow skin and metal have to do with ice? I get that they're ICE skates but that doesn't excuse the whole dress-making, instant-sewing thing. Otherwise, I can't think of anything you didn't already touch on at the moment, although I probably could if you give me some time. I laughed throughout the entire video. I love this channel so much. Conspiracies have always been an obsession of mine and this channel is by FAR my favorite in that department. I've started noticing more in movies as I watch them (seeing easter eggs and stuff and creating connections in my head--possible endings and whatnot). Y'all are great and I can't wait to see more. Have a beautiful day. --This Lovely Young Heart

[@dr.catherineelizabethhalse1820]

It's magic

[@footh1013]

One of my teachers is about 70 years old, and he actually does pushups every day, as well as other activities. It is possible to stay fit in your later years, but you do have to stay in shape while you're younger to do it.

[@yeahyes7077]

Elsa doesn't make the ice skates she just adds ice blades to the bottom of Anna's shoes

[@footh1013]

@@Victor_Graves i made that post a while ago, and honestly I think I phrased my thoughts poorly. (I get that you're just making a joke, but i figured I'd comment anyway.) While it is easier to stay in shape if you've been doing it your whole life, it's not impossible to get back into good habits even at an older age. I doubt that exercise totally reverses the effects of old age, but it's better than nothing

[@artbytesia]

@@siomhagormley Well, it's not funny, it's just awkward and forced.

[@alisak4826]

The frozen short with coco just made me think more how bad Anna and Elsa’s parents were. I mean even once a year they couldn’t come together and celebrate ??actually no traditions or memories?? TF?????

[@スタンド使い-h1d]

ikr

[@ASLTheatre]

This is why I never did like the Trolls. That and I also blame the parents for basically shunning their daughters. If you didn't know the act is very parallel to parents of Deaf children. Because the parents don't know what to do with their deaf child they miss out on so much bonding.

[@ChronicallyCurious]

TJ Thomas That's interesting. I never thought superficially of deafness as being a parallel. I always felt like I identified a bit with Elsa, because I was diagnosed with several chronic illnesses and chronic pain when I was 12. There were a lot of weeks, solid weeks, I'd have to spend in my room in the dark, listening to audiobooks on the third lowest setting, because light and sound made my migraines so much worse. I couldn't go to school physically anymore. I still get nervous in public because there were so many times I'd start to hurt badly and have to keep my mask on while I made my excuses and left the room, while inside it was like I was on fire. My parents were awesome about it (my mom has these illnesses and my dad's a doctor, so they understand them) but it hurt them so much to see me hurting, made them feel guilty and like they should do more to 'fix' me, so when I started to leave when I was hurting more, so they didn't have to see it. And, of course my old friends were upset I wasn't at school anymore, and just faded away. My brother, though, never really understood why I was so uncomfortable being around people when I was hurting. He always wanted to protect me. He ended up sleeping outside my door sometimes, when I was sick, knowing I needed to be alone, but also knowing he had to make sure I was okay. So this.... this movie had some interesting parallels with my own life that made me pretty fond of it. Of course, in real life, your weakness cant become your superpower overnight, and in real life it's not so easy to brush years of isolation and stasis aside. But, it's hopeful, I guess, for anyone who's ever been on that side of the closed door.

[@ASLTheatre]

Chronically Curious Thank you for telling me about your experience. I won’t say I know what that’s like. But I understand it can be hard to talk about. (I have Tramatic Brain Injury experience that I won’t bring up often.) As for the deafness parallels, it is not exact one-to-one reference but the parents reaction to their Deaf child is exactly what it’s shown in the movie. Often the deaf child are left feeling isolated with little or no language.

[@llamasandpenguinsforever7325]

Elsa has had a lot of practice in isolation..... I guess she will know what to do in quarantine 😂

[@It_is_Okay_to_be_Sad]

That's what I was gonna say!!!!! :D

[@brando_handle]

Wait so is Elsa an obscurrial?

[@fluxburger9722]

Brandon Fitch wow you are right

[@juancarlosdiaz9870]

😱😨😰😱😨😰😱😨😰🤨🧐🙂☺️😊😁😂🥳🤩

[@moonchild4648]

Grand Pabbie says that he should take away all the magic (in Anna's head) including the memories of said magic, he's not JUST erasing her memory.

[@aclownwithapen3865]

THANK YOU. sOMebody listens to the movie quotes and doesn't just pluck out the parts they need.

[@aQuayQuay]

Did you watch the video?

[@anicaacuna9523]

So glad someone agrees with me. I don’t understand the hype on Frozen. Also, “smiles are good” 😂

[@artbytesia]

Me neither.

[@violetlavi2207]

nanners333 don’t let him fool you, he actually really likes Frozen 😂 why else do you think they’ve made so many theories about it?

[@artbytesia]

Violet Wynters I respect that kind of opinion. I just don't understand it.

[@violetlavi2207]

Tesia Blake ? I’m talking about the creators of this channel, and how they obviously like Frozen since they’ve made theories on it. It’s more of a fact than an opinion. But I appreciate you being civil if it were an opinion!

[@artbytesia]

Violet Wynters Thanks!

[@BeasEasel]

Hans didn't want Elsa to die earlier in the movie because he wanted her to end the winter. Once he realised that she couldn't, he had no reason to keep her alive anymore.

[@Maz1m-x4l]

BeasEasel that is exactly what I was thinking the whole time!

[@hajimekanehira4716]

BeasEasel but he was gonna kill her before she could fix it anyway so that goes back to making no sense

[@newperve]

Also who wants to get into a fight with the world's most powerful ice wizard ON A MOUNTAIN, IN A BLIZZARD? She can freeze a fjord solid, what do you think she can do to a party of about a dozen men if they frighten her?

[@cecilialh]

@@newperve but he also had his chanse when the dude was about to hit her with an arrow.

[@newperve]

@@cecilialh Yeah and if he'd missed?

[@kimberlysymonds7517]

It shows that sometimes the biggest villain to you can be yourself.... by questioning everything about yourself

[@susie4284]

Troll King: (erases Anna's memory) J: Erase Elsa's memory! Me: How about we erase BOTH their memories!!!

[@tomn6800]

Trolls: Remove Elsa's memories. Elsa: So, I have to just let it go?

[@susie4284]

Tom N loooool just let it go elsa

[@dogsmr4078]

IVE BEEN ON KZbin FOR HOURS WAITING FOR THE UPLOAD

[@ilikewaffles-zq5go]

Me too

[@indierose7070]

Jay:"Why would you tell her your plan monologue style-" Me: You SLY DOG!You got me monologueing. I'll go home 😂😂😂 Edit:Also I don't get how the troll king tells Elsa that fear will be her enemy...THEN scares the crap out of her with that little light show he did.

[@adorable5820]

Purple Rose Elsa: *Wheres my super glove*

[@ToleratedMoments]

HIS NAME IS J NOT JAY NOOB

[@cheshirecat6453]

No don’t go home this comment is amazing!

[@TheHyperTT]

I thought the same thing XD

[@justinwahlquist6955]

Purple_Rose, he is a TROLL, after all. :)

[@bethanycampione3558]

"You know who's flawless in this movie, though? Olaf. Everything about him makes sense." Except his entire existence

[@gyaanhomelearning4373]

If Olaf were to never exist in Frozen, this wouldn't be a movie worth my time.

[@cuthulucups4878]

Tbh the whole "nO hARm Is tO coME to THe qUeEN" bit struck me as a bid for legitimacy. Sure he could have blamed the duke's men, but in that situation Queen Elsa's death would have ultimately been his fault. Not a great look for a man wanting to rise to the throne. It makes more sense for her to have a little "accident" that he can't be connected to at all, and where he can control the staging completely. Not staying to finish off Anna was definitely a misstep on his part though. Although let's be honest, Anna was protected by plot armor there.

[@avyatorsaurus]

Cuthulu Cups Yeah, even if he had tried to blame Elsa's death on the duke's men, it would have made him look like a weak leader. He's trying to become king of an entire nation he's not even entitled to, so he's got to have a very, very strong presence. Being unable to talk two men down killing one woman? Even if that woman has ice powers? It doesn't look good in his favor. The fact of the matter is not only would he have failed to bring her back to Erendelle, but she was killed on his watch. If he was even remotely intelligent, he could have just kept going with Anna and married her. As of the Frozen film by itself (and none of the theories, confirmed or not, of them having relatives), she is next in line to become Queen if Elsa was to die. Even if Elsa doesn't die, he's still married to the next in line for the throne. Not only would first marrying Anna gain him the trust of the kingdom, it would put him in a better position to kill Elsa. Have a little patience, gain some respect, and no one would ever in a million years assume the "respected" Prince Hans had murdered his wife's older sister. Hell, even with the magic ice powers, he still could have worked out the original plan just as well. It would have been even more advantageous, tbh. He gains the trust of the people by helping them through the impromptu winter, and if he tried to help Anna bring Elsa back in, he'd also gain Anna's total trust (not that he didn't already have it). If they managed to talk Elsa down and calm her, he'd also have Elsa's trust. He's possibly even have Elsa's permission to marry Anna, since he'd proven his trustworthiness to Elsa by helping her in a tough time and looking after her kingdom. So, he'd get married to Anna, and a tragic accident would happen to Elsa. Which was what he'd originally intended, only he has proof of integrity via being so helpful during a crisis situation. Basically, if he'd just bided his time and was half as clever as the movie tried to paint him out to be, he could have benefitted even more than he'd originally intended.

[@cuthulucups4878]

@ Luna Sidera So you're totally right about Hans being an idiot, but here's the thing about Anna, she was going to die anyway. The original plan _was_ to marry her, kill her and the Queen off quietly, and ascend to the throne with every bit of legitimacy one could expect for a monarchy. It would have worked too, under normal circumstances, but then Anna suddenly needed "True Love's Kiss" to break a magical curse and save her life. Now, Hans can whisper sweet nothings to her all night long and have Anna convinced that he loves her, but magic, magic knows when the heart isn't being true. This is law in their universe and anyone _in_ that universe with two brain cells to rub together could realize that magic can't be deceived without a set of very specialized skills, if it's even possible at all. Hans knew he didn't have the ability to deceive actual magic, and he couldn't make himself love her. His cover was blown the moment she came back to the castle. From his perspective, even if he wanted to save her, she's dead and he's going to have to settle for less than full legitimacy. The problem he couldn't overcome was only staying long enough to gloat and not ensuring her death because for Hans to ascend to the throne, Anna needed to die in that room. He'd already been granted the power to rule in her absence. At that point it's simple enough to let her die from the "curse" (tragic), and slay the evil Queen who cursed her (Heroism!). Unfortunately for Hans, he was too much of an arrogant fool to make sure Anna was actually dead, so he ended up with a wooden chamber pot instead of a crown. Thus, we can conclusively prove that Hans was in possession of _at_ _least_ two brain cells, but evidently not many more than that.

[@newperve]

@Luna Sidera Will people please stop assuming that Hans planned to do any of the things he said he planned to do. There is literally no reason to believe this and good reason not to. For a start he claimed to have known that nobody was getting close to Elsa despite neither meeting her or talking to anyone who met her before attempting to seduce Anna. Secondly the plan makes no sense. You don't get to be King because you were married to the late Queen, and if you tried whoever was third in line would at least arrest you.

[@newperve]

@Cuthulu Cups Will people please stop assuming that Hans planned to do any of the things he said he planned to do. There is literally no reason to believe this and good reason not to. For a start he claimed to have known that nobody was getting close to Elsa despite neither meeting her or talking to anyone who met her before attempting to seduce Anna. Secondly the plan makes no sense. You don't get to be King because you were married to the late Queen, and if you tried whoever was third in line would at least arrest you.

[@cuthulucups4878]

@Michael Price And yet, for a brief moment, the plan worked. I'm not saying it isn't ridiculous, take it up with the movie if that's your beef! I'm just saying it actually worked out pretty decently for him right up until the point where Hans was too stupid to follow through. And whoever was third in line really dropped the ball because Hans was already granted ruling powers. Whoops.

[@ThroughTheLensOfAutism]

Hans' line: "Nobody was getting anywhere with her", would suggest other princes and kings have proposed to Elsa but she turned them down, so Hans went for her sister.

[@Grimfang999]

Yeeeeaaaah I kind of don't like frozen because the last third is dumb. Hans just becomes a villain because they need a climax even though there is no set-up, he just goes from good to bad for no real reason. I am still convinced the ending was changed and they didn't rewrite the rest of the script. It seemed like Hans was going to be as naive as ana about love then they realise love doesn't happen in a day but familial love could work so they rush to find Elsa. It just makes so much more sense. Really love the first two-thirds, but the climax ruined every aspect of the set-up. Aside from the Duke who was a minor villain acting in fear, there shouldn't have been a big bad, just the fear that Ana could die.

[@nanalove3819]

I thought Hans was a villain because they wanted to break the love triangle without having Anna decide (like "she's nice, she doesn't make a guy suffer, that was the guy who was a villain"). But I like that change, and if it wasn't there, the love story would have been too much like Enchanted (I already think they recycle that plot).

[@poplasia]

I always thought they could keep Hans as only wanting to get in a relationship with Anna for the throne, but not actually wanting to kill her. Then, in the scene where she needs the kiss, he could become distraught because he knows he doesn't really love her and that the kiss won't work... but he also doesn't want her to die. So Hans leaves to try and find Elsa, heart heavy with guilt, in the hopes that she'll be able to do something. Anna follows because she's still worried about him, even after the 'betrayal' that he doesn't love her, and she's worried about her sister. Surrounded by the snowstorm, Elsa can't hear what Hans says, save that her sister is dying. In her grief at that, she lashes out at everything around her. Anna steps in to save Hans, because she now knows the trauma Elsa went through after she accidentally attacked her in their childhood and doesn't want her sister to experience the same pain again.

[@ashleydanner2379]

Think about this: What if the trolls were actually the villains. Hans didn't appear as a villain until after the trolls whispered in their song "her quote engagement is a flex arrangement". That would also explain why the elder troll told them the lie in the beginning about concealing the magic. The elder troll also said himself that the head can be persuaded. Who's to say that the trolls wouldn't go so far as to confuse Hans and change his whole thought process just so their Christoff can marry Anna.

[@nanalove3819]

Ashey Ash suddenly the line "get the fiancé out of the way and the whole thing will be fixed" takes a different meaning

[@jessicapreston7119]

They did change the script because Elsa was originally the villain

[@stormybear46]

I guess you could say, Elsa was in ICEsolation

[@ninificationfact]

You know a storyline is bad when the Carlin Brothers can't make sense of it

[@SpiderSmoothie]

ninificationfact they still love the movie. They just like to give different perspectives on things occasionally. It's all fun.

[@marsh8938]

yep

[@ninificationfact]

Oh I know they do. Believe me

[@artbytesia]

Or when a girl like me is more into movies aimed more at boys than a film aimed more at her demographic.

[@maryjoyspohrer9011]

I totally agree with this. Especially the whole business with Hans. There was ZERO indication that he was anything but a nice guy until Anna showed up and needed him. NONE! NO hint to the audience AT ALL. Keeping Anna in the dark about her sister, not HELPING Elsa learn how to control her power but trying to stifle it? It's a wonder she didn't become an Obscurial! (sp) Of course we have the beautiful music and bonus points...OLAF!!!!

[@reign0599]

By the time Frozen takes place, absolute Monarchy is a thing. She was Queen, and could have litterally avoided the whole thing by using this. The Guards and Soldiers where sworn to serve her. If anyone tried dissent, such as the Duke, she could have had them arrested right then and there. No one would question it.

[@M.M.Y.B]

right, like everything about this movie doesn't make sense. Where were they?! You can't just be in complete isolation and still be handed the crown after an empty throne for 2 years.

[@douglasmagowan4918]

Even a monarch needs to appease his court. The court allows the king (or queen) to hold power, and works for the king to maintain that power.

[@timogul]

Monarchs need to build their powerbases, plenty of monarchs were killed by popular revolt. If the guards were more scared of her sorcery than they were loyal to the concept of the monarchy, they would have attacked.

[@tinalarosa661]

I think they have Anna forget Elsa having powers so she wouldn't ask to play and get hurt again, like in the heart, which did happen later in the story when she knew she had powers.

[@daphne3133]

It's not that the whole thing makes no sense. Hans evil plan makes no sense think about it... Hans wants to be next in line for the Crown by getting married to Anna and by killing Elsa but almost the whole movie he was protecting Elsa and giving her advise. Then right before Anna is about to die and all Hans has to do is kiss her and he would be prince of Arindelle you heard me prince. No matter what he would stay a prince because if else dies Anna is next in line for the Crown due to blood. Plus Hans doesn't have a single drop of Arindelle blood so no matter what happened he would always just stay a prince.

[@cecilialh]

yes. but Anna would be queen and we already know he easly can manipulate her. He prob would be able to do the same as just a prince when married to the queen.

[@jesseeverett3585]

Literally thank you I’ve been trying to tell people this for years

[@morgane.1204]

Took you long enough to notice

[@thefatheroflies7921]

Lol right?

[@ayanaalles5934]

Yeah, 5 years long :)

[@k_tess]

Yep, I thought they were gonna ignore it forever.

[@ablynch82]

Morgiemoo 222 yup

[@thesuperzfamilyvlog6607]

Yup!

[@mercyvanzyl316]

I am probably the only one who gets extremely excited when he reveals that Ben wrote the theory because then I imagine it as a situation where they write each other letters and then they do dramatic readings of them for us... and it just makes me so happy.

[@EFMRP2011]

1. The trolls are erasing ALL magic, including memories, not just memories. 2. In nonmagical terms I think this would be the equivalent of getting a hit to the head near the part of the brain that controls memories, which requires “surgeries” (aka the troll’s sped up version, magic) but still has the possibility of causing a sort of disease that destroys those memories, which did happen.

[@soapygirl83]

Thank you for seeing so many things that have been bothering me about Frozen. I wonder if the problem was that originally Elsa was supposed to be the villain (since the movie is very very very very Loosely based on the story of The Snow Queen really actually nothing about the movie is anything like the story except the queen who has the power over ice) and then they writers created amazing song Let It Go and realize they needed Elsa couldn't be the villain but now there are all these potholes that you enumerated in your video

[@gauthamarun3878]

She was supposed to be the villain. But then Let it Go was pitched as a song so Disney decided someone else had to be the villain.

[@jgriffin9084]

Elsa could have still been the villain if the song was in minor.

[@artbytesia]

@@gauthamarun3878 Which was a terrible decision on their part.

[@The-Milky-Way--they-it]

Oh and Olaf makes no sense because: Why is he sentient, and remembering the personality Elsa gave to ANOTHER snow man? I mean, I know you were being sarcastic but still....... I'm ranting now I should stop............

[@frostbite2094]

Andiyah Lehmon Because water has memory. Elsas snow has the memory of the original Olaf.

[@dreggon1406]

You forgot why elsa has powers in the first place

[@janNowa]

CoolDragonMage 101 Disney tends to handwave that, as do most other books/movies about magic

[@JosiahVarenkamp]

She is a mutant. Easy as that.

[@risris3778]

I read a theory that says Elsa is actually rapunzels sister and that's where she gets the powers from, rapunzel got the spring warm magical powers and Elsa got the winter cold magical powers from the flower her mom drank (which explains the hair colour since rapunzel also originally had colour that differed from her parents hair colour) and then after their first child was stolen, the king and queen sent their second child-Elsa to the queens brother- the king of arendelle to protect her and that's why the king and queen of arendelle don't particularly care for Elsa as much as anna

[@dreggon1406]

Rownie zhao AMAZING Theory!! and maybe it fits really well into the story and why Repunzel was there to visit her sister's coronation

[@dreggon1406]

Josiah Varenkamp funny.... but how?

[@FrendlyCreeperInnovation]

Iceolation

[@ClearandCloudy]

FriendlyCreeper so happy someone else caught that

[@rosiespiller1640]

Yes.

[@sm92127]

25%of the comments:people making there own theory 25%of the comments:people correcting their thoeries 50% of the comments:PUNS

[@okthen3583]

I also thought this! If I was Elsa's sibling I would definitely break the door down before the 10 year mark!

[@BrandontheBeldam2993]

Same here. If Elsa was so terrified of hurting Anna, then Anna would have nothing to fear!

[@lucywood3193]

Maybe that's how she'd eat - she'd go around collecting the animals the cold killed 😁

[@M.M.Y.B]

Then she'd have to thaw them (good luck) and cook them (she was a pampered princess who didn't know how) and those wouldn't last long if everyone was doing it....literally everything about this movie irks me.

[@remyornot]

I was in a Frozen play (I played the King, Oaken, and Weselton) and everyone agreed that the King's plan was the WORST.

[@LouiseBrooks-vt7jh]

Yay a new video! 😁👍💫🌸

[@TwinKids3895]

Louise Brooks1920 Not quite

[@aphmaus1fan463]

Louise Brooks1920 l

[@adhdmachine4960]

Louise Brooks1920 ikr

[@bcblossom]

Hanz's full plan doesn't make sense because HE'S NOT THE BAD GUY!!! And no one will ever convince me otherwise! He doesn't kill Elsa (or let her be killed) at the ice palace because at that point he has no intention of killing her. The trolls are the real beasty little evil masterminds! >:(

[@ZoeAlleyne]

Monica Hargrove I mean he does try and kill her and her sister so he... Is the bad guy.

[@madisongillam5366]

I agree 🤷‍♀️ the plot of frozen literally makes no sense if Han is evil. The trolls are sketchy af tho

[@abbeyadams5315]

“I’m betting hunger will” I can’t even😂😂😂

[@truffles6424]

THANK YOU!!! SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED!! considering that this was the beginning I just couldn't get into it. There are a few other things. But nooooo I over think plot holes.

[@carter7359]

Hey guys you guys are my favorite youtubers please keep doing what you are doing thank you

[@TwinKids3895]

carter eason They are my favorite too. My other two top favorites are Seamus Gorman and Brian Hull

[@ChronicallyCurious]

carter eason That is an awesome comment, and I agree!

[@thebendalorianbricks1871]

With this new Coronavirus Elsa had the right idea.

[@gingerjoxter]

I have always asked myself..... HOW CAN ELSA CREATE FABRIC... specially BLUE FABRIC, even if the ice is... transparent xd/white, how she magically dissapeared the old dress!! And turned it into an ice dress, maybe she kept some things from the old dress?? .... idk @-@

[@jazzjazeemo]

Dreamy-prince Jaden The whole making Ice castles, fountains, ice ring and snowman makes perfect sense (snowman that are alive makes no sense) but making clothes out of ice like fabric makes zero sense. I think it's just so Elsa can make new dresses in the sequel and shorts so little girls can buy them for halloween or something. Just a cash grab method pretty smart.

[@dbseamz]

Dreamy-prince Jaden Ice can be made into thin fibrous shapes (snowflakes), all Elsa had to do was make the strands longer and weave or knit them into cloth in the process. I'm guessing her magic prevents her from radiating body heat (and thus keeps her alive and comfortable in the bitter cold), so the clothes wouldn't melt. As for the blue color, the original dress she had on was blue, just darker. Adding a layer of whitish, sparkly ice could easily make it look lighter. She could even have formed ice into little sharp blades in the exact place where she wanted the slit in her skirt, forced the fabric apart, then froze the edges to keep it from fraying. The only part I don't understand is how she got rid of her black sleeves.

[@nikki_allred]

Dreamy-prince Jaden maybe it's like how in Wakanda they sew Vibranium into their clothes

[@notelliot70]

The blue probably isn't from dye but, like the blue in human eyes, a result of light refraction.

[@gingerjoxter]

OHH, That reminds me of girls thinking that cinderella's dress is blue xd

[@blackkcat678]

If Disney makes another frozen film, I just want Jonathan Groff (he's the voice actor of Kristoff & he was king George in Hamilton) to break out into "What comes next" from Hamilton

[@SirenOfStyxx]

The Ravenclaw WTF IS UP WITH DISNEY AND HAMILTON

[@SirenOfStyxx]

JUST ANIMATE THE PLAY ALREADY

[@Kafoo_X]

The Ravenclaw, yes!!! I need this to happen

[@keshet5026]

They keep mentioning that Anna performed the true act of love by racing to save Elsa but that can’t be it as she still freezes. So isn’t it Elsa who does so by hugging her and crying? The act is the hug which warms up Anna’s heart enough to revive her

[@aznSeddie]

And this is why I prefer The Snow Queen by Hans Christian Andersen. Frozen just has too many logic and pacing issues for me. But I'm liking the Broadway cast recordings, though.

[@markoliimatainen2565]

No it doesnt have any logic issues. None of the points that cailingbrothers made were true.

[@Vaquedoso]

how so?

[@Kafoo_X]

aznSeddie is the Frozen Broadway cast recording out yet?

[@aznSeddie]

Kafoo X Not yet. Only 4 songs were released. My guess is a full release sometime this summer, but idk.

[@nelsonthenerfbullet7167]

WAIT LOOK WHO MADE IT HANS IS A CHARACTER IN FROZEN CHRISTIAN IS KINDA LIKE KRISTOFF (i dunno how to spell it) AND THEY ARE MAIN CHARACTERS

[@koalasquare2145]

The Reason that anna had to forget everything is so that she would leave Elsa alone, so that nothing worse can happen

[@OneLittleSpark18]

I don't know if you guys have read the Twisted Tales series Disney has put out, but they recently came out with a Frozen Twisted Tale called "Conceal, Don't Feel". It's REALLY fun, has more consequences than the movie, and explores some interesting concepts within the world of Frozen!

[@widgetfilms]

"Ice"solation?

[@riley2057]

Small thing that wasn’t said: when Hans is about to kill Elsa and takes out his sword, you can hear it and see it in his hand afterwards but its not there before