FrSky X14 Twin 24 Channel Radio Review - 2.4Ghz Twin System & Ethos

[@wtfmimshag]

I guess it's the audience but surprising how many people think ELRS is the be-all and end-all. There's more to a receiver than a serial output to a flight controller. Where are the ELRS 18 channel PWM receivers? Gyro receivers? Advanced gyro receivers? Vario receivers? Redundant power receivers? Telemetry sensors?

[@PansRocks]

Will never touch FrSky again as long as I live

[@idiotsnifff]

🎯

[@scottyd035ntknow]

These are really great budget radios to get into ETHOS and see if you like it or not. Also might be a primary choice for someone with smaller foamies or DLGs or some such.

[@Meonlymeagain]

I've used Speky, Hitec, Flysky, Futaba and Frsky. The new frsky ethos system is much easier to use and more versitile than any of the other sytems i have used. I have used elrs but the flashing, binding and issues with the arming channel make it much harder to use with any radio. It also works with 4 in 1, elrs and other third party systems. Also the use of stabilised rx make it a no brainer for me. Its the most versitile radio. For quads all you need is a simple radio. If that suits you then go for it.

[@martr]

STM32 H7 is a microcontroller, not an SOC (23:10). Would be useful to differentiate.

[@wladimirrezende1475]

The absence of the TD internal module is a HUGE no-go for me.

[@scottyd035ntknow]

that's not who this radio is for. Its for ppl with smaller foamies or gliders or quads where the big T antenna takes up too much space.

[@Sam-gr8pl]

Frsky is my past.....not going back😊

[@ShinyVideoStuff]

Looks kinda like a pain to bind FrSky receivers - this is like going back to the old FrSky D16 kit. ELRS support looks dodgy too - no official support? Wouldn't be difficult to get proper support.

[@BladeScraper]

Er... no? It's massively improved over D16. You register once when you first get the RX, then binding is just a matter of powering on the receiver.

[@scottyd035ntknow]

Its as simple as hitting a button a few times...

[@wtfmimshag]

Compared to what? Unplugging something 3 times? Or logging into a wifi interface to set a bind phrase?

[@iqeen]

​@@wtfmimshag 🤣🤣🤣🤣 win!!!

[@markitzero7408]

Hello JUMPER Bumblebee! Do AG01 mini gimbals fit, does it really output 1w?

[@neuromancer692]

12:24 We need to talk about your solder joints, mate.

[@MadRC]

That's a beach test it's not production. It's not important as it was cold joints.

[@noilkrad]

Guys, could you please recommend a nice ELRS radio? I have first Radiomaster TX12 with external ELRS and CrossFire module, but want a dedicated ELRS radio.

[@jiatan_fpv]

Boxer

[@skynet859]

Mum, can we get a Boxer? - No, we have a Boxer at home.

[@FlyDreamEcuador]

FrSky TARANIS is Legacy!

[@baggszilla]

Thanks Ian! FrSky always made high quality hand radios! Cheers!

[@jiatan_fpv]

A list of what's wrong with this radio, most to least important: Made by Frsky No EdgeTX No internal ELRS Antenna doesn't fold No Ardupilot mode buttons (way to upsell those guys on a more expensive radio)

[@FIGFPV]

Why are we still talking about frsky?

[@b14ckyy]

Because Mad is not a brainwashed ELRS chill fanboy and actually knows what he talks about.

[@FIGFPV]

@@b14ckyy frsky is very much like leprosy. Used to be a thing and is still around but nobody even knows someone who knows someone that has it.

[@gperpetuo]

​@@FIGFPVif you only live in the fpv bubble it might be true... outside of it, It's pretty hard to find 1 single radiomaster/jumper/etc while Frsky is not that hard and ppl who have it really like it

[@scottyd035ntknow]

@@b14ckyy You mean like Bar... nevermind.

[@scottyd035ntknow]

@@FIGFPV I take it you haven't been to a fixed wing flying field lately or... ever...

[@kevinsmith9420]

Mo-men-tary. Is that British for momentary?

[@gadgetrc94]

Frsky is the only radio link I've ever failsafed on.

[@BladeScraper]

These comments are pretty funny. People who haven't used FrSky in years thinking their past experience still applies to the modern systems. FrSky have come a long way, and it's apparent in their massively growing popularity outside of the small FPV scene.

[@creatorTWin]

@@BladeScraper l find it crazy that this video has some definite suspect comments defending frsky, somehow saying that we can’t use our past experiences of having frsky radios to affect our future purchasing decisions.

[@BladeScraper]

@creatorTWin I have no problem with people using their experience to decide whether to buy something, and I never said I did. Everyone does that. I simply said that the issues with older stuff don't apply to the newer stuff, whether said people believe it or not, and it's a bit silly that people who have NO experience with the newer stuff are trashing it blindly. As someone who DOES use the newer stuff, as well as used to use the older stuff, I know this to be a true statement. Would you not take a couple minutes to defend whatever radio brand you do use if you saw comments on a video about it trashing it despite them having not used it? I suppose not everyone will, but there's nothing "suspect" about it. I could go on videos about RM's newest radio and blindly trash it stating my negative experiences with my TX16S that caused me to switch back to FrSky, but I don't, because it's weird. Just like the comments on this video are weird, and kinda funny.

[@BladeScraper]

@@creatorTWin I never said people can't use their past experience to judge whether they'll buy new products. Everyone does that. I simply said it's a bit funny to see people blindly trashing a product they've got no experience with. It's a totally different radio, OS, and RF system, so one's experience with systems of yesteryear does not apply to it, whether said people believe it or not. As someone who's used FrSky since 2017, all the way up to present day, I don't miss the older systems and would never use or buy them again either. it's just a bit silly, and weird. I could go onto videos about RadioMaster's newest radio, not actually watch any of the video, and blindly trash said radio based on my poor experience with the TX16S that led me to go back to FrSky, but I don't because that would be silly, and weird. It's not weird to defend a product that you use and like, nor is it "suspect". In fact it's quite normal. Though at this point you'd think I'd have learned my lesson about trying to politely argue with the FrSky Hate Train... being called a bot for having an opinion that doesn't align with theirs is fun.

[@NorgeSquad]

Is it possible to mod this to internal ELRS?

[@scottyd035ntknow]

Why would you want to?

[@NorgeSquad]

@scottyd035ntknow So I don't have to buy another module

[@lefunetyjc]

The quality of FRSKY and FLYSKY remote controls is much better than that of RadioMaster or JUMPER. RM or JP is an open source remote control OEM factory without any core technology of its own. ELRS or EDGETX Barabara....

[@creatorTWin]

Looks like a remodel of the X7 combined with a radiomaster boxer. Too little too late though! No matter how good the firmware is I would never risk it as they would fracture the firmware base at any moment.

[@scottyd035ntknow]

Are we still going on about the ACCST firmware? FrSky got a report that the V1 firmware could, under very rare circumstances, take a plane down. So they pushed out V2 and made it so you couldn't roll back to V1 because V1 was a liability. That's just smart from a business and insurance standpoint.

[@creatorTWin]

@ are you a bot?

[@BladeScraper]

@@creatorTWin "everyone who doesn't ride the same cult-like FrSky hate train that I do is a bot" 💀

[@creatorTWin]

@@BladeScraper another bot?

[@BladeScraper]

@@creatorTWin Yes. I made a series of long standing KZbin accounts to defend FrSky. Congrats, you figured me out! Bamboozled again. Beep boop!

[@hoagietime1]

How are they still in business? Who has been buying their radios for the past five years? Why would anyone trust them ever again?

[@neuromancer692]

They are way more popular with planes and their radios are catered more to this space. But yeah, no one in the FPV space is going to buy a new FrSky radio.

[@1101nz]

Plane flyers use spectrum futaba or radiomaster , or have a old tarranis. Plane flyers won't buy new frsky tx Can't see them surviving

[@das.ruderboot]

it's funny how FPV pilots think the whole industry is centered around them. The thing that started it and that's still quite popular are model planes. FrSky remains the best option for fixed wing models! In my club many people switched from Jeti, Futaba, Spektrum or Graupner to FrSky. Their new Ethos is a great system and their receivers come with gyros that make the plane more stable in wind. No other manufacturer offers a system that simply works out of the box at that price point. Yes Radiomaster is cheaper but most of us fixed wing pilots want an "ecosystem" that simply works. Im still using my old QX7s access with the newest generation of receivers

[@das.ruderboot]

​@@1101nzyes they absolutely do. I see it at my club and at other surrounding clubs! People are switching from Jeti, Futaba, Graupner and Spektrum

[@scottyd035ntknow]

Pretty much anyone who wants a top of the line radio for fixed wing at a fair price? They're all over the fixed wing and especially turbine world. If you think FrSky isn't VERY much alive and well and making amazing radios you've been stuck in FPV world and/or listening to brainwashed youtubers.

[@1101nz]

Im still on frsky for my planes. Firmware he'll whenever i need new receivers , Spectrum doeeht have incompatable firmware with their stuff. Id never buy a new frsky transmitter

[@skynet859]

I am sure the radio would last you quite a while... it would be a shame if a new FrSky protocol get introduced and your receivers no longer being produced - rendering your working hardware obsolete. I still have FrSky Receivers which are over ten years old and they work perfectly fine... with the multiprotocol module in my Radiomasters.

[@BladeScraper]

@@skynet859 I don't get it. FrSky still supports ACCST V2 on their very latest radios including the one in the video. Nearly every FrSky ACCST D16 receiver has V2 firmware available, so you can fly some of the oldest FrSky receivers on the newest FrSky radios. I still have two X8R's deployed in aircraft which are over ten years old and they work perfectly fine... with the internal module in my Tandem radios. They even improved the Archer receivers by adding ACCST backwards compatibility in the Archer Plus line to help people who still use non-ACCESS radios like the original X9D and QX7, as well as internal MPM radios like the TX16. So I don't really understand what this whining and complaining about obsoletion is for. It simply isn't happening, in fact FrSky's backwards compatibility is better than most brands out there. What more do you want? The only protocols no longer supported without MPM is V8 and D8, which FrSky stopped supporting because they are illegal to use in many countries, and kinda suck anyway by modern standards. And if you just really really want to use that ancient D8 or D16 V1 receiver, well... multiprotocol is fully supported for those edge cases.

[@FIGFPV]

frsky is very much like leprosy. Used to be a thing and is still around technically. but nobody even knows someone who knows someone that has it.

[@eightiesfpv]

As the saying goes, you never get a second chance to make a first impression, and FrSky's was simply disastrous. D8, D16, EU, LBT, V1, V2 and none of them compatible with each other. I used FrSky for barely six months, but in that time, I probably aged five years. By the end of those six months, when I had finally understood everything, it felt like I had studied aerospace engineering. Thanks, but no thanks!

[@zarrck]

Its funny how it feels like the fixed wing community is still stuck like 5 years in the past. Still using stuff like frsky and spektrum

[@scottyd035ntknow]

Please elaborate on what a TX16S can do that one of the Tandem radios can't. Because I can run ELRS on my X20S just as easily as I can on a TX16S while having a much higher quality radio and a much easier to use OS that is just as capable.

[@zarrck]

@@scottyd035ntknow Can't speak to the build quality of the X20S as I have never held it but the TX16S is a mighty fine radio. That also costs about half as much. So thats the first thing you can do: Safe a lot of money

[@jiatan_fpv]

Boomers are long past the age where people are capable of learning new things. At least they're not flying nitro..

[@turboomni848]

For me Frsky burned it's bridges long ago and I will never consider one again.

[@fededabz]

U think crossfire will work on it? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MrCaptainnemo]

Absolutely. With no problems at all😂

[@b14ckyy]

Crossfire is officially supported in ETHOS. why the funny smileys?

[@BengalCatChilli]

​@@b14ckyy because frsky tries to kill off anything that isn't their garbage proprietary link. R9 was a joke. Access/acct, joke. They also killed off opentx by poaching the main dev, in order to develop ethos. Basically they tried to kill off anything that wasn't going to make them money. That's why ELRS, ETX and Radiomaster crap all over frsky and they lost all the market share they were trying to protect. All of the frsky fan boys in this comment section are so angry 😅😂😂😂

[@MrCaptainnemo]

​Just nostalgia from when Frsky made sure that the QX7 wouldn't work with crossfire unless you modified it.​@@b14ckyy

[@scottyd035ntknow]

Yes... it already works on it no issue. So does ELRS. So does ghost. And so does a 4-1 module.

[@burntnougat5341]

Frsky's mambo/boxer radio. Nahh pass

[@dayworkhard]

FrSky is out of league. Lead team: HelloRadio, RadioMaster, Jummper, TB, RadioLink, WFly, FlySky, FatFish, GhostRC. Yet FrSky cheated in the spektrum analization years ago comparing to ELRS.

[@jas-FPV]

It‘s rediculous that the Elrs team is still little cry babies and not supporting Ethos

[@BengalCatChilli]

😂 you're delusional.

[@jiatan_fpv]

It's closed source - the only way ELRS would support ETHOS is Ethos devs adding support, not possible to do from ELRS side.

[@jas-FPV]

@ Elrs support is within a lua module, they refuse to maintain Thats what I understand 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@jiatan_fpv]

@@jas-FPV oh do you mean they don't want to work for free for a for-profit like FrSky that screwed the hobby before? I can relate. If Frsky needs a lua fork that works with their BS OS, they can contract a dev and pay them $$$ for ongoing support.

[@jas-FPV]

@ Its the same like Radiomaster and any other radio company selling elrs stuff and making a buck off of it