FSLabs A320-X: Dual Engine Failure due to birdstrike

[@ifly7777]

If I was you, knowing ditching is the only hope. I would be screaming "I'm Not SULLY!"

[@progrmr]

Way to handle that plane! Wow!!

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you :-)

[@TheAviationEnthusiast]

"No no we're gonna be in the Hudson"

[@patrickmosur7868]

you're one of the best sim pilots out there.

[@Blackbox711]

Cheers

[@planiciesresiduais]

Great video! It's always amazing to learn from real world pilots. Thank you very much for sharing knowledge!

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Planícies Residuais. Thank you for your kind words. Much appreciated!

[@rayanaltowayan9558]

Is he a real pilot ?

[@alexandrediasdaconceicao4198]

Turning on the yellow electric pump seems a good idea... but only on the flight simulator. In the real plane, the Y ELEC PUMP has much less capacity than any of the EDP (Engine driven pumps) and wont be able to cope with the demands of both Hydraulics (G+Y). You`d have an OVHT in no time. (That´s why it is not an Airbus Procedure to switch it on in case of a Dual Eng Failure). One could however use the Yellow Elec Pump with the PTU off and thus have two Hyd Sys instead of only the blue one.

[@abdbach379]

He answered every single comment but this one. he did neither correct nor confirm your statement, too much pride in stake XD

[@Blackbox711]

Yep. In real life that is probably the case. I have never tried it 😉. But then again, I would risk a overheated hydraulic system than land with slats only and not have the resources to increase drag in order to hit the runway with a decent energy state. But this is going to far here. I have always said that everything shown here is for flight simulation use only. Up to now I have had nobody complain. Regards and Happy Landings

[@abdbach379]

Yep that did it. Alexandre just got himself an answer! I'm joking I just wanted to get you to answer the question because I was interested too. Sorry :)

[@Blackbox711]

+abd bach ... I totally missed the post from Alexandre, so your post actually pointed that out to me. Thank you for that. Alexandre seems to be a professional Airbus pilot and he is correct that in real life the yellow electric pump could overheat rather quickly with supplying the green system via the PTU. But if you use his quoted procedure, the green hydraulic system would be without pressure and hence the flaps and slats would extend at half speed. Also the landing gear could only be extended via manual gear extension, which also takes time. And in this simulator you do not have a helping copilot. Anyways, I am glad that there are alot of people showing an interest in this topic. I wish you always happy Landings, BB

[@Miguel0363]

ok, I get that you never tried it. Thank God i didn't as well, but saying that you would take the risk of an overheating hydraulic instead of landing with slats only is one of the most ridiculous statements i have ever read. Also, hydraulic arquitechture, yellow system gives you flap movement, since it controls the SFCC 2. Of course you'd have slats and flaps slow, but you still have them. Nevertheless, great video dude!@@Blackbox711

[@flyingpedal]

Probably real pilots have to check more birdstrike in this migration period (September and October). Great video again! Not too long ! Not too short!

[@Blackbox711]

Hello Pierre. Thank you. Yep, migration period starting again. There is actually a website now (google birdtam and you'll get the link) which publishes migration areas and intesity. Regards.

[@flyingpedal]

Welcome 711. In Canada we have this association Bird Strike Association of Canada (BSAC aka Bird Strike Canada) because we have great migrations over a wide area. This website provide full information for pilots and airport managers. Good Approach :)

[@ghurghust]

+Blackbox711 those birds should have TCAS

[@Blackbox711]

Yeah, that would help ;-)

[@ghurghust]

+Blackbox711 what aircraft currently you fly in real life?

[@NkosanaK]

Love it! Any chance you have an updated video of this? Or will you do one in the future? I find this so fascinating !

[@Blackbox711]

Hi. No plans at the moment to make a new version of this.

[@slweek]

"Now it's only the matter of flying skills to touchdown the plane as smooth as possible" Smashes that thing down with -600fpm "Confused face* Nice video, cap :D

[@Blackbox711]

600 FPM? What makes you think that? The VS Indication on the PFD has a lag, just like in real life

[@slweek]

We can take that into the accoun, but it was definitely rough

[@Blackbox711]

Well, I'll take that considering both engines had failed :-P

[@slweek]

Blackbox711 aaaaaand a bit late flare

[@Relax2437]

Really enjoying your video's :) If possible, can you do videos on: Manually flown, raw-data VOR/DME or NDB app. in bad Wx, down to minimums ? Manually flown, circuit-training in heavy x-wind, with sing.eng. landing on last circuit? I would really want to see how FSLA320 handles when manually hand-flown & your thoughts about it.

[@Blackbox711]

Hi J.D. Invictus. Thank you for your comment. On any other PC Simulator I would say "no way". But with the FSL A320 I have to say I do feel it could be done. I will have to get a better Joystick for this since I am not all that happy with the one I am using now (TM 16000). So it might take some time to do this, but I definetly accept the challenge :-)

[@Relax2437]

Looking forward to it, thanx :)

[@alphaprot2518]

Really good work. However, obviously important to not flare too early and too long (you did it brilliantly), because as you can see in 6:32 and later, RAT becomes insufficient below 150 KIAS. You've got a hydraulic backup by the APU, but a second affect - of course - you could stall and that is not good - even if only a few meters over the RWY surface. Please, correct me if I made a mistake in my comment. One of the best simpilots out there. IMHO it's definetely harder to fly a DUAL ENG FAIL in X-Plane, because of better simulation of the aerodynamics. I made it back with an A330, too, but landing was not as smooth as yours (R.I.P. LDG GEAR). Weiter so. Grüße vom VOR/DME KRH

[@NadimRasheed]

Hi , thank you for sharing the dual engine failure emergency proc , but i do have few questions : 1. Why you did not armed the spoilers when landing ? Is that because the current hydraulic available didn't provide that ? ( I'm not often seen the pilot use spoilers when landing in emergency , just curious) 2. Why the autobrake did not activated when the aircraft touched down ? I saw you activated MED a/b, but didn't noticed the a/b worked because the green light isn't illuminated Thank you very much

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Nadim. 1) I simply forgot because I was communicating too much with my viewers in chat and it was supposed to be only a demonstration on how to glide down without any engine thrust. 2) The autobrake didn't engage because the spoilers did not deploy upon touchdown. The autobrake needs a signal from the spoilers to activate. Regards

[@NadimRasheed]

Thanks for your reply sir .. Ok now i get it , but right now I believe the spoilers will not powered because of the hydraulic anyway... waiting for other opinions... Anyway , Very educative and the instruction is very clear ;), keep it up ! Fyi , I was IVAO member too , see yaa on the skies ;D

[@Blackbox711]

All three hydraulics systems were working because of a little trick. Start the APU. Once it is running, switch on the Yellow Electric Pump (Overhead Panel). Now the PTU will also power the Green Hydraulic system. So Blue Hydraulic is powered by RAT, Yellow System by Electric Pump and Green System by PTU from Yellow Sytem. Regards

[@NadimRasheed]

oh yeah sorry i forgot you did turn on APU which will provide the rest hydraulic in this case ... Thank you very much for your answer.. really appreciated

[@enojelly9452]

That brief APU fire warning, even displayed with procedure on the EWD for a short time, is probably just an artifact of how the systems work internally, but is that in the real airplane as well? If so, what causes it? Somehow, if I was a pilot, a spurious APU fire warning, however brief, is one of the last things I want to see in such a situation. 8)

[@Blackbox711]

It happens sometimes in real life when systems power up. On a dual engine failure there are several power changes and hence these spurious warnings can occur.

[@pilota3207]

Hi. May I ask you one question: with the APU generator available you switch on the the yellow electric pump to regain the yellow and green hydraulic system. The aircraft manufacturer does not describe this procedure in the FCOM/QRH. Do you know why?

[@Blackbox711]

Correct. Yes, they don’t want to publish this officially because Airbus says they can’t guarantee the flight controls will work correctly with the electric yellow pump and the PTU powering the green hydraulics.

[@pilota3207]

Blackbox711 Unterstand. Trank you. Another way would be to switch the PTU off. So the pump had to supply the yellow system only. So one could at least use the flaps.

[@Blackbox711]

You could. But according to Airbus the yellow electric pump is for short period usage only.

[@tydaftpk38]

I’ve noticed if you don’t start the APU, the alternate braking does not work like it should in the real plane. Accumulator only with no yellow hydraulic pressure should work but it doesn’t.

[@Blackbox711]

Be aware that this was the release version when it first came out. A lot of things weren’t modeled correctly then.

[@ehsan83]

you took some extra action like putting engine on start position, put APU BLEED to ON and fuel PUMP 1 & 2 to OFF. are these part of the procedure? excellent video as always thank you

[@macieksoft]

It is about trying to restart engines. You never know if they can be restarted or not, but you should at least try. APU bleed may be needed for restart. Not sure about center fuel pumps.

[@ehsan83]

@@macieksoft thank you

[@Mr.PandaGaming]

is there a fix for the black screens on that aircraft

[@Blackbox711]

+Mr.Panda Gaming ... Never really had an issue with black screens unless I turned them off completely with the rotary switches or an electrical failure. Did you look in the FSLabs forums?

[@stewartcraig7186]

Excellent video, look forward to more!

[@Blackbox711]

Hello Stewart.Thank you very much for your kind words. Regards

[@frz3505]

Can u make a video of what will happen to ac speed if engine failure occurred high level or level below engine out ceiling altitude if we dont iniate descent and maintanibg level

[@Nufsed007]

I have a request? Manual Flight Plan Entry, I just cannot get it to work, and so far can't find it in the FCOM.

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Mike. I have put your ich request on my list. Regards

[@Nufsed007]

Thank you sir, much appreciated. I have also started promoting your videos on my live streams. Yes, they are that good!

[@Blackbox711]

Cheers Mike :-) Much appreciated!

[@sebastianlama8288]

Great video, i have a question, how did you put the bord strike , like the birds and everything?

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Sebastian. There is an option in the FSLabs A320 MCDU failure prompt. If you scroll down you will eventually get an option to activate the bird strike engine failure. Regards

[@paulorcel7071]

So cool ! How do you simulate birdstrike ?

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Paul. You can enter birdstrike on the failures page in the MCDU. Regards

[@mintyaviation2376]

How do you use your mouse to look around? I have Ezdok by don’t want to use middle mouse button

[@Blackbox711]

I have a third controller (game pad)

[@frz3505]

Why do you need to turn on the yellow electric pump only after apu start

[@Blackbox711]

The yellow electric pump would drain the batteries too fast. So you have to wait until you have the APU electric generator available

[@frz3505]

Blackbox711 thanks man , your knowledge is beyond next level

[@milo4008]

Why APU fire alarm going off at 4:35?

[@Blackbox711]

Bug in that version.

[@stabilo3170]

Very interesting video! Here we can see the incredible work from FSL and your flying skill! Can you please tell me what's your PC hardware config.

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Stabilo31. thank you for your kind words! Here are my PC specs: Intel i7-4790K @ 4.00 GHz, Nvidia GeForce GTX 980, 32 GB RAM, Logitech K120 Keyboard, Zowie FK1 Mouse, Thrustmaster 16000 Joystick

[@FightOrFlightSim]

Wow, masterful handling there!

[@Blackbox711]

+FightOrFlight ... thank you

[@klefky6048]

Reeally good! Excellent landing ! But how often survived real pilots this?

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Klefky. Thank you. Not many engine out ditchings have had a good outcomes. The most prominent one was the Hudson ditching in 2009. Regards

[@romaincannizzaro8344]

Great video ;) I love the FslabA320-x, how did you managed to get a simulation of a birdstrike ?

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Romain. Thank you! You can set the birdstrike feature in the MCDU-Options Menu. There you go to failures and create a new one. Then scroll down until you get to the prompt "bird strike eng 1(2)". Regards

[@blueskies275]

APU start is not available within 45 sec after EMER ELEC.

[@zk9058]

You have a very solid understanding of the emergency flows and procedures......are you a real world pilot?

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Lazy. I was a real A320 pilot. Regards

[@jemand8462]

@@Blackbox711 why did you stop?

[@dennhel]

do a320s have a rat I thought that only the bigger aircraft had those

[@Blackbox711]

Hi. The A320 does have a RAT. It is deployed automatically when AC bus 1 + 2 loose power. Regards

[@dennhel]

thank you for your reaction. it looks like I have learned something about the a320 what I did not knew before😎. and of course keep up the good work you earned my sub.

[@JROD8796]

Did you see the sully movie?

[@Blackbox711]

High Headless. No, unfortunately not. But I will have to see it soon!!

[@alphasiera1757]

how can i have emer elec, emer descent and other failures using this??

[@Blackbox711]

+aks flash ... it can be found in the MCDU under Failures. Regards

[@alphasiera1757]

thnaks!

[@Treadstone7]

How did you get it working so smooth ? I only get 12-15 frames, sometimes even lower with the FSLabs a320. Very sad considering how much this thing costs. (I already have my sim tweaked and optimized and so on, getting about 20+ fps with PMDG)

[@Blackbox711]

Hi. Yep, the FSLabs needs a lot of CPU power. PMDG has alot higher FPS compared to the FSLabs. So, good CPU and adjust the CPU intensive settings.

[@catmar1944]

FSLabs A320 is quite costly compared to the Aerosoft A320/321, how much of a difference is there? I fly the Aerosoft A320 so I would be interested in purchasing the FSLabs version if it's really worth the extra. Thanks for any feedback on this question.

[@Blackbox711]

Yes, the FSLabs is very costly. But you get a very detailed simulator with extremely well modelled systems, including failures. So it comes down to the question if you are the kind of sim-pilot who wants to get involved with all of that. If not, which is perfectly OK, then stick with the Aerosoft A320. Regards BB

[@jerrellarmstrong7026]

Nice flying. I need this simulation.

[@Blackbox711]

FSLabs A320-X

[@reinerto348]

Some failure have completely ok in fslabs?

[@Blackbox711]

Hi. The failures are simulated very well, yes.

[@fancandyman]

How did you simulate the birdstrike?

[@Blackbox711]

Hi. In the FSLabs A320 you can select that in the Options Menu through the MCDU. Regards

[@davidhack1974]

An excellent piece of flying was demonstrated by Cptn. Sullenberg by landing in the Hudson River,New York, no loss of life.

[@Blackbox711]

Hello David. Absolutely!!! Cpt Sullenberger rocks :-)

[@davidhack1974]

If you ever get the chance to watch 'Air Crash Investigations ' thats shown on Discovery channel. This brilliant piece of flying is shown in very good detail.The two pilots earned their money that day

[@ydsimulations]

:)

[@Blackbox711]

:-)

[@patroshkapost-apocalypsesu4302]

I'm considering getting an Airbus a320 for FSX. Which should I invest my money in? Aerosoft or Fslabs?

[@Blackbox711]

+Patroshka Post- Apocalypse Survival ... depends on how deep you want the system to be modeled. If you just want to fly around, then Aerosoft A320 is good enough. But if you want to simulate a flight very close to the real aircraft then you are better off with the FSLabs. However make sure your PC is strong enough to handle that addon

[@patroshkapost-apocalypsesu4302]

Blackbox711 thank you.

[@Blackbox711]

+Patroshka Post- Apocalypse Survival .. 👍🏼

[@chrisinsid3]

Shouldn't you also put Squawk Code: 7700 ?

[@Blackbox711]

+chrisinside .. if you find the capacity to do so, then sure.

[@DudeAwesomeBoyReal]

How did you get a bird strike in fsx?

[@Blackbox711]

+DudeAwesomeBoy .. it is a feature in the FSLabs A320 that you can select in the Failure Options. Regards

[@AK-qj9id]

Is the normal brake available?

[@dariusthesimp5943]

What do you mean?

[@AK-qj9id]

@@dariusthesimp5943 Is normal brake available after touchdown or is it accumulator pressure only in dual engine failure?

[@dariusthesimp5943]

@@AK-qj9id ooh ok, well i dont know but you can ask him on his stream on twitch or his discord

[@AK-qj9id]

@@dariusthesimp5943 Thanks

[@thefl4me957]

why not arm spoilers?

[@Blackbox711]

I forgot

[@superconnie5003]

Very good

[@CK-rg2ku]

Very nice videos! You are a real-world pilot on the Airbus, right? ;-)

[@Blackbox711]

I was, but unfortunately I am not any more. Thank you for your kind words! Regards

[@Coholbell15]

can you try doing what captain Sully did? nice video by thr way

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Juda. I have too much respect for Mr. Sullenberger. He did an amazing job saving all those lives and I feel it would be disrespectful to all people involved playing the hudson landing on a pc simulator. I know I made a video on dual engine failure, however the point of this was to show what actions are to be taken in the cockpit. Regards

[@patrickspies8742]

Nice job Buttering the bread every time I try this I fail

[@patrickmosur7868]

What simulator is that? X plane or FSX?

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Patrick. It is FSLabs A320-X working under FSX. Regards

[@dominikg.489]

The best A320 for FSX :)

[@Blackbox711]

Definitely

[@IkinAaron]

Black box???

[@Blackbox711]

🤔

[@kotezstudio]

very good video mate

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Andy.. Thank you very much for your kind words! It means alot to me. Regards

[@Blaukriton]

na ein glück das du auf 5000 warst und nicht 500^^

[@hendy9380]

Very nice video.

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Hendy. Thank you very much.

[@Interpaul81]

Great video. Danke aus Hamburg. :)

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Interpaul. Danke und Gruß nach Hamburg.

[@dominikg.489]

Is there a RAM turbine ? ;)

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Dominik. Yes there is. Regards

[@xZise]

You can actually see it extended after he landed.

[@dominikg.489]

Yup :P How to stow it ? ;)

[@xZise]

Apparently you need to be on the ground and have the blue hydraulic system pressurized. And if I see it correctly that was only pressurized by the RAT so no luck there after landing. See also: forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/7787-a320-x-faq/ Q: Unable to stow the RAT. Why? A: You must be on ground with the blue hydraulic system pressurized.

[@dominikg.489]

Thank u so much for help ! :) Greetings

[@Nufsed0007]

Very nice, have subbed.

[@Blackbox711]

Hello Wanderer. Thank you for subbing and for the twitter recommendation. Regards

[@bigd-1-channel514]

Gear down should have been the last thing to have been done

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Mr DDD3az. The landing gear was lowered relatively early because the aircraft was high in the glide profile. Had that been not the case, then you are correct and the landing gear would have been lowered alot later. Regards

[@bigd-1-channel514]

Yes, Of course if you had the energy, and the altitude, then dropping everything once you know you have it made, would make sense in order to get it slowed enough. Interesting and good video.

[@NRGpony]

Meanwhile all the normies who think planes just sink like a brick and explodes if the engines turn off and running around and screaming and crying.