FSLabs A320-X Basics: Touch and Go Training Pattern

[@Jet-Pack]

Finally a youtuber who can actually fly manually well :D @12min in: you have to reengage the approach phase. Go to next page (go around) and then confirm approach phase again. Then you'll have managed speed again and also the extended center line and also ILSes will be tuned...

[@nsw72]

Another gem and an insight into the CORRECT procedure of doing things the Airbus A320 way. Thanks, BB!

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you very much!

[@Sploit]

Another really interessting and detailed video to learn some of the procedures of the a320 :) Thank you for that !

[@Blackbox711]

Sploit.. Thank you for the positive feedback! Happy Landings, BB

[@arzabico9267]

Still long run to catch half of your level but you know Im practicing, and its much easyer with your help! Thanks again, enjoying it so much.

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Arza. Thank you so much. It is good to know that there are some people who enjoy my work and it helps them improve with their flying. Thank you also for being such a big supporter on Twitch! Happy Landings, Blackbox

[@dreamflight111]

Servus blackbox 711, thanks for another great tutorial. Undoubtedly you have flown the a 320 as a professional pilot, a pc pilot hardly would reach this depth in managing this complex aircraft. You advance us Flightsimulator Pilots from just playing a game to do serious air-work. Your tutorials give us the feeling to become more and more "real (ground based ) pilots", when able to follow your lessions. So keep on doing, many thanks for your intensive work and one can see that you take delight in sharing your experience. Best regards dreamflight 111

[@Blackbox711]

+dreamflight111 ... Thank you very much for taking the time to write such a positive feedback. I very much appreciate that! Yes, I very much enjoy making these videos. Unfortunately I can't produce them as quickly as I would like to. I wish you always happy landings, Blackbox

[@g7usl]

BB, did provide many, many instructions for the A320 and that makes him, In my opinion, a legend.

[@TheStuuie]

I love this video, thank you! Didn't realise the correct pitch and power settings would make so much difference to my flying! Now I only need to convert N1 settings to EPR to get the same results with the IAE variants.

[@Blackbox711]

+Stuart Hay .. During Basic Jet Training this is the first thing you get tought. Pitch and Power is extremely important when flying manually. Thank you for your positive feedback and Happy Landings!

[@NyxxUK]

BB I did this at my local airport EGNX last night and it was great to get loads on landing in with no FD just eye balling everything. Thanks again Nyxx

[@Blackbox711]

+David Murden .. it is fun right!? I still fly patterns regularly 👍🏼

[@NyxxUK]

very much so

[@sabre9970]

I bought UK2000's EGNX on purpose after reading somewhere that it was the aerodrome were they they practiced T&Gs (was it Ryanair?) Cheers Dirk

[@NyxxUK]

Igor Petrov yes Ryanair they do them all Monday morning I can watch it from my house

[@sabre9970]

Cool, I wish it were our BA though ))

[@fs-ikarus3539]

The speed of learning from you increases. I have to accelerate. Thanks for a further procedure to train.

[@monthlyvloger1232]

This is called professionalism !!

[@andyc5155]

Brilliant! Interesting detail, great commentary and learnt something new, thanks.

[@Blackbox711]

andyc5155 .. thank you for watching and the positive feedback! I really appreciate that. Happy Landings, BB

[@diamondbreak]

Excellent aircraft handling.

[@elbapino6531]

Thank you friend ! very instructive ! thanks ! Gonna do that training !

[@paddyredmond3039]

Thanks very much for your tutorial - really great and so useful you giving us the N1 settings etc. I've been using them on the MSFS 2020 Neo (A32NX) - so helpful.

[@sabre9970]

Now I wish you could make a similar T&G video for B737, I'd like to learn how they set up systems for T&G training, what they do for it etc. Much thanks for sharing your knowledge , you're a star, Blackbox711 ))

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Igor. Thank you very much! I am planning to do a T&Go video for the 737 in the next couple of days. Regards BB

[@RajSingh-cp4bl]

Great wrk Blackbox ! Your contribution to online simmers is immense and so is your dedication. I believe you are/ were beta tester for FS labs 320, i hope that a dual mcdu fail option is introduced for the FS labs 321. Maybe you can advise them...& keep up the good work 👍

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you Raj. I agree, a dual MCDU failure would be interesting to have in the FSlabs. I will put that request forward to the developers. Happy Landings.

[@g7usl]

It's a real treat watching you fly this bird and I am in awe of your perfect control. Can you give us any clues as to what hardware controls your using, please? Great video and can hardly get enough of them from you. Thank you once again.

[@Blackbox711]

Hi. Yes, I am using the Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Flightstick and Thrustlevers. Also the Rudder Pedals from Thrustmaster

[@g7usl]

@@Blackbox711 Thanks once again, Blackie. I purchased the same control's and value your advice. I still have the Saitek pedals though. I went to get the 'Airbus' LH joystick but found it too expensive. :(

[@g7usl]

I relented and got it, and It's great.

[@paulburley6871]

How do you have the fps displayed in the upper right corner? What zoom setting in chaseplane do you use for your vc? Great training, thanks Paul

[@Willykamera]

I will love to see you doing this on the a321 default from the fsx

[@Blackbox711]

Sorry, don’t have FSX. But maybe once the FSLabs A321 is released I can do this again.

[@godfather4047]

why do you have flaps 2 all the way? and do we have to use flaps 1 for circuit flying ? and why did you turn at a higher height? than turning at 500ft? for crosswind

[@keukenrol]

What is the ENG OUT acceleration used for? Is this in case of 1 engine failure? Then you have TO/GA on the other engine and the altitude will be the acceleration height for which you switch to MCT on the working engine?

[@fsland]

Another great video as usual! I keep getting VAS issues using this plane, can you share your setting (our system is almost the same minus the CPU i have the 6700K)

[@Blackbox711]

+fsland .. Check out my video My Prepar3d and PC settings. If you still have open questions after watching that, give me a shout.

[@pxlloewe1481]

Du sprichst sehr gut Englich, respekt 😂

[@andreacalo4341]

I found the T&G charts in your dropbox thanks

[@Blackbox711]

+Andrea Calo .. you are welcome 😊

[@andreacalo4341]

Blackbox711 Can you give me the rules for calculate the outbound time?

[@Blackbox711]

Andrea Calo.. of course. For each 100 ft height above runway threshold you take 3 seconds. So for a standard pattern altitude of 1500 ft, you have 45 seconds outbound time (touchdown zone until base turn). However you also deduct 1 second for each 1 knot tailwind component. In this example we had 9 kts tailwind, so the outbound time was approximately 35 seconds. Regards

[@andreacalo4341]

Blackbox711 Thank you very much Sir!

[@andreacalo4341]

Blackbox711 I prove the T&G but it is very difficult, can you explain me what is the velocity F+20...Speed=F?? Thank you so much

[@bigwalk78]

awesome video man...thanks

[@marekstrnad7851]

as always, great video!

[@andreacalo4341]

Beautiful video! Can I have the A320 T&G training ? And how to reset the trim before insert TOGA thrust? I'm your follower! You are great!!

[@Blackbox711]

Hello Andrea. Thank you very much for your kind words! The trim will automatically reset to around zero after touchdown. You only have to check that it does do reset. If for some reason it does not reset automatically you need to be aware that the aircraft might behave a little different upon liftoff until the autotrim does its job. Always happy landings, BB

[@ehsan83]

very informative thank you

[@rparachini]

Nice videos!! I see you use Ezca. Which is your zoom on VC?

[@Blackbox711]

Actually I use Chase Plane. And I do not remember the Zoom Factor I used in this video. Sorry.

[@ramanbharati2932]

What add-on you use to pan around the cockpit. You panning is very smooth and fast. pl advise

[@Blackbox711]

It is a program calles Chaseplane

[@folcaljet00]

Awesome video! Thank You

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you very much!

[@elheroes]

Just another great video ! Thanks a lot ! I have a question regarding your first landing : you are in speed managed mode (7:34) but flying manually (no AP, no A/THR) thus the only advantage I can imagine is the speed bug on the PFD. Am I correct ? And since the subsequent landings are not monitored by the MCDU, speed managed mode wouldn't be available ?

[@g7usl]

BB, in the event of a 'go-around' after touchdown, surely manual braking has first to be applied in order to cancel the braking setting? Or, have I missed something? Best rgds to you, Dave

[@Blackbox711]

Hey. No, as you select TOGA the spoilers retract and the autobrake deactivates. Greetings and happy landings

[@g7usl]

@@Blackbox711 Wow what a extremely rapid reply, Blackie. Now you know how much I miss you and FSL.

[@g7usl]

@@Blackbox711 If, like me, you was planning to give up FSL for using FS2024? What model Airbus do you consider best. The Fenix or, waiting for FSL?

[@ALL4AVIATION]

Blackbox711 What do you think about my video version of Traffic pattern and touch and go on my profile?

[@luiscorreas2958]

Congratulations on your videos !! They are very good, but I have a question about the 320 of Fslabs When something goes wrong, you have previously programmed it or it is automatic failure as a result of some bad action

[@Blackbox711]

+Luis Correas ... Thank you very much for the positive feedback! Yes, all failures here were programmed via the MCDU Failure page. However, there are some random failures that occur very rarely. For example I had one case where I couldn't raise the landing gear after takeoff. Regards

[@luiscorreas2958]

Blackbox711 Perfect! Thank you very much for your answer!!

[@Blackbox711]

Luis Correas .. you are very welcome.

[@NyxxUK]

Top man BB, Great interesting watch as always. Request: Could you make a video showing how to add to every flight a very small chance of a service based failure. So most times you will not get anything but there will be always a chance to get one, would love to add this to the FSL A320 But really not sure how to set failures that way. Kind Regards. Nyxx

[@NyxxUK]

Hi Bruno :) I think and not sure but "think" you can do what you say, but set a time that's crazy high so acts like a random chance to trigger?

[@NyxxUK]

Thanks again Bruno, It seems then I cannot do what I would like to, but thanks for helping. Might ask on there forms if anyone has figured away but am sure you would know.

[@Blackbox711]

David Murden .. Yes, I will make a video on how to insert failures incl. random failures. Regards

[@NyxxUK]

O man, What a Star. Thank you :)

[@chr0sser978]

Nice video, what do you use as camera tool? I have a bug where the fslabs just suddenly looses control when landing, and i wonder if its chaseplane, a bug in the plane or AS16+ASCA?

[@Blackbox711]

+MineblowerHD .. Thank you. Inuse Chase Plane, AS16 and ASCA. I never had any control problems. It could be a fault in your flightstick, giving false inputs. Regards

[@chr0sser978]

+Blackbox711 Okay thanks, ill try using my old cyborg fly 7 or whatever its called about 2 years old now :)

[@airbus330tmt]

How do you plan the fuel for training circuits on PFPX? Let's say that you intend to do 5 touch and goes. How do you plan that on PFPX for it to calculate the fuel needed?

[@Blackbox711]

You can only estimate. I would plane for about 500 kg per circuit.

[@airbus330tmt]

@@Blackbox711 thank you for the reply captain! I've been wondering about this for some years now (since I started to use PFPX in 2015), not specifically for the Airbus, but as a general doubt for other aircraft I have been using. What I usually do is fill it with some random amount of fuel within weight limits (say for example 10 or 15t for the A320, 15-20t for a wide body (A330, B777, etc), or... If using PFPX to calculate a non-random amount of fuel, I plan some short route departing from a certain airport and landing in the same airport then look at trip fuel calculated in the OFP, then re-build the flightplan adding the previously calculated trip fuel as tankering or extra fuel, then look at the newly calculated trip fuel and do this as many times as the number of touch and go that I plan to do. This is how I do it, I just asked you because I wanted to know if there was a different/better/propper way to calculate it. Many thanks!

[@Joshdavies146]

Request: RNAV RNP Approach into Queenstown NZQN. The RNAV Y RNP into either runway is quite fun and challenging

[@Blackbox711]

+Josh Davies .. Challenge accepted. Will do it next week. Regards

[@Joshdavies146]

Awesome! Thanks you. Make sure you use ORBXs scenery

[@Blackbox711]

+Josh Davies .. Will do 👍🏼

[@TheStuuie]

NZDN scenery is also available now if you need a starting point? :-)

[@lufthansafan100]

How about RNP RNAV 13L at jfk too?

[@9brian99]

Hi BB. Great video, you make it look so easy. Bit confused on how you are using Selected Speed. I had assumed it only worked if the auto pilot had control of the engines through Auto Thrust but it appears that you have neither a/p or a/t turned on. So is the Selected Speed controlling the trim when you are controlling the power? Thanks Malcolm.

[@Blackbox711]

+Malcolm Grant .. Thank you! Selected speed only changes thrust to maintain speed with autothrust egaged. So if you use manual thrust like me (which you don't have to, you can leave autothrust on until flare), selected speed bug is only there for a reference. Sorry for the confusion. Happy Landings, BB

[@andrewb__0791]

Hi, very Good video with a lot of interesting stuff. Which Airport Is this? It looks like a training airport, very simple with no complex scenario. Cheers !

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you. The Airport is Linz/LOWL

[@andrewb__0791]

@@Blackbox711 thanks, the 2500 ft offset it's standard for all airports ? How you get that ?

[@jack.p]

Hi BB, a quick question. Is there an absolute location for the "fixed part of the window" that you mention for keeping the touchdown zone in? Obviously it will be different based on your default left seat camera setting. But is there a part that you usually use? or some industry standard? Thanks! This video helped me alot.

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Jack. Thank you very much. No, that place on the windshield is always different, depending on Flap configuration, approach speed, environmental conditions etc. So you first need to be on the correct path and then have a look where the touchdown zone is and try to maintain it in that specific spot on the windshield. Happy Landings, Blackbox

[@g7usl]

How do you rate the Thrustmaster Rudder Pedals please Blackie?

[@Blackbox711]

I only had the very basic ones and they were not the best.

[@onebigflappyboi8276]

Nice!!!!

[@emillutzkanov1348]

THANK YOU !!!!

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you for watching 👍🏼

[@graphicskan4293]

Hi, I have seen your video and my a question is what is the factor for the descent? the flight is in manual mode so how is the plane descent to the rwy? thanks for the amazing videos,I learned a lot from them.

[@Blackbox711]

There are several techniques. The easiest tool to use is the FPV/Flight Path Vector. It shows the descent/climb angle on the PFD. Have a look through my videos, I am sure I made a tutorial on that.

[@graphicskan4293]

Thanks for the answer I will try

[@TiRe2309]

Hi bb, thanks for the great video with facts and details how to fly a T&G as this is the next I will do with the A320 as soon as the update is out for version 4.2. I flown only the 777 or 747 + 737 mainly until now, so the landing with the A320 is still not always a great adventure for me. But now I saw some nice and interesting facts what to check during the approach and I will learn the flare. Question: Can you confirm that the landing rate presented and recorded by for example projectfly client is not presenting the real landing rate made with the airbus due to the suspension of the gear? I saw in your videos that you do not flair that much so it looks a bit "hard" but maybe its just in the flightsim and that the suspension is not really well simulated. Would be nice to know if you could give me your opinion on this. My projectfly landing rates are around -150ft/m up to -300ft/m. Thanks a lot

[@Blackbox711]

Hi. Thank you very much. A landing rate of -150 and lower is a very good Landing. Above 250 fpm would be positive, while anything above 350 fpm would be defined as hard. The Projectfly measured descent rates seem to be faulty sometimes. However the FSLabs A320 gives a pretty good feedback on the landing rate when you closely listen to the touchdown sounds it makes. Happy Landings

[@A380adrian]

Awesome video! What addon scenery is this?

[@Blackbox711]

+A380adrian .. Justsim Linz

[@enojelly9452]

Thanks a lot for the detailed video! After many tries, I've got almost every phase down in the ToLiss A319 (in X-Plane), except the approach. I'm in EDDM, clear weather, pattern altitude 1500 above ground, until after about 45 seconds where I turn to base and start descending, and yet I'm practically always way too high. I don't know about the speeds, I often reach F-speed by the time I have to turn to base at least. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Viele Grüße aus San Francisco!

[@enojelly9452]

Oh. I just read your A320 vs. A319 document on the off chance that the A319 might be different, and seems that may be the case actually? You point out that given that it is lighter but with the same thrust (I use the CFM engines, and I only set it to a few passengers and light cargo), descent is a lot shallower. Weirdly enough, the rate looked okay to me (but I don't really know). Should I use the speed break, or stay on the downwind longer? Vielen vielen Dank nochmal für die Videos, hab auch auf Twitch abonniert und mal gespendet! 8)

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Julien. First of all a big thank you for your support! That is very kind and means a lot to me! The visual pattern is the same for both the A320 and the A319. The downwind should not be changed. However make sure that when you are turning base, you extend the landing gear and have idle thrust. Select Flap 3 and Full quickly and start a shallow descend at around 500 fpm. That should put you on the correct path for the final. Hope that helps and keep on practicing. Happy Landings, Blackbox

[@tonyzhang4918]

nice video！！！ BTW where can i setting call out V1?

[@AADFWspotters2]

in the MCDU options page. Also please, google it. Hundreds of forums on this topic on the FSLABS page.

[@catmar1944]

Thank you...

[@seamaneric1966]

Fantastic video!

[@Blackbox711]

Thank you very much Eric!

[@fobi7572]

What does Managed Speed do when Auto Thrust and AP are disabled?

[@Blackbox711]

+Thruzzd ... it uses the Groundspeed Mini Function. I have also made a video on that.

[@cdv0007]

maybe you always crash landing when touch down about 400-500fpm , do you using keybroud for fly ?~

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Peter. I definetly do not touch down with 400-500 fpm. You would hear that impact. Be aware of the fact that the V/S Indicator lags and takes a second or two to catch up with the present V/S. Regards

[@r0xbeat]

Another great Video! Maybe you can make the same in one of PMDGs Boeing birds? ;)

[@Blackbox711]

+Sergio ... I'll try to make one.

[@roarkverneng476]

Thak you for Your awesome videos, but how ar you able to set TOGA thrust without the A/THR or FD kicking in? Everytime I try this, touch Down | trim in green band | thrust 50% manual (FD's OFF, A/THR OFF) | FLAPS 2 | setting TOGA thrust (move throttle levers to gate TOGA) = FD's and A/THR kicks in. What is it Im doing wrong?

[@Blackbox711]

+roar kverneng .. no, it is a bug. Whenever the A/THR is working correctly, it will activate automatically when selecting TOGA. Also the F/D will pop up automatically. You are doing everything correctly! Thank you and always happy Landings!

[@roarkverneng476]

Thank you for Your answer. I tried the touch and gos With Flex Thrust, but always get a L/G GEAR NOT DOWN warning when retracting gears. It also show in amber LANDING INHIBIT after touchdown spooling up engines. This is probably also a bug.

[@FinnF16]

Wie machst du das, das du nur auf die vspeeds drücken musst und die automatisch ausgerechnet werden? Und den V1 callour ?

[@Blackbox711]

V1 Callout kann man im MCDU Options Menu einstellen. Wenn alle Daten korrekt in der MCDU eingegeben sind kann man Managed Speed durch drücken des Speed Knopf selektieren.

[@FinnF16]

Blackbox711 gehen bei dir die Spotlights? Ich habe nämlich immer eine Fehlermeldung meiner GPU, also so ein Error und dann geht nichts mehr :/

[@animatedchristmascollector3754]

How do you get the efb to show up?

[@Blackbox711]

It was available only with the Sharklet versions.

[@JustinZockt_240172479]

Unter welchen Aspekt findet man die Platzrundenhöhe auf den Charts?

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Justin. Wird nicht veröffentlicht. Normalerweise ist eine Platzhöhe 1500 ft über der Runway

[@JustinZockt_240172479]

Blackbox711 Achso oke, danke :)

[@m4rtjones]

thanks BB

[@Blackbox711]

+m4rtjones .. and thank you for watching

[@sbull5317]

HELP how do you select manual thrust after take off?

[@Blackbox711]

Hi. You press the red button on the thrustlever twice. Or press the A/THR button on the FCU (Autopilot).

[@sbull5317]

Thanks for your reply! How do you keep the A/THR off when putting it into to TOGA for touch and go? Whenever I put the levers to TOGA A/THR reactivates? Thanks!

[@Blackbox711]

@@sbull5317 that is Airbus normal behavior. When selecting TOGA the ATHR re-engages. You have to double press the disengage buttons again.

[@sbull5317]

@@Blackbox711 Thanks so much! appreciate your videos

[@davidterrero]

is the FS labs a320 better than aerosoft?

[@Blackbox711]

+David Terrero .. absolutely! It is a lot more expensive, so you can expect that. As I have said many times before, only buy the FSLabs A320 if you are willing to use all those extra features. Regards

[@sihailanicastia550]

what is the scenery ??

[@Blackbox711]

Justsim Linz

[@dothe6622]

What is 300/12, the number you entered in MCDU? And how could you know that number? Sorry for the stupid question. I'm still a dummy.

[@Blackbox711]

+Do The .. no problem. We all start somewhere. The numbers was the wind data (300 Degrees at 12 knots) and that would normally be given through the airport meteorological report (ATIS).

[@sverzz1]

What airport was that?

[@Blackbox711]

+Svante Ersmark .. LOWL / Linz in Austria

[@ovracvr5835]

Thanks Blackbox711 .. However, I cant make a single descent flight with my Logitech 3D Pro Joystick It all over the place jumping ( throttle lever); this wasn't as severe with aerosoft a320. anyone has a solution tried everything except replacing my joystick

[@Blackbox711]

+ovracvr .. you can change throttle lever settings in the FSLabs MCDU and set thrust lever ranges. Have a look in the manual or the FSLabs Forum. Regards

[@ovracvr5835]

Did once will check the manual and forum more thoroughly. thanks

[@ovracvr5835]

With some patience I made it to work. I configured the detent zones while in flight; else it was cumbersome.

[@Blackbox711]

+ovracvr .. so I hope flying will now be alot better! Happy Landings

[@antongazaryan2532]

Spoilers must be armed on touch and go, they will retract when we set TOGA

[@Blackbox711]

Nope, Spoilers are not armed during touch and go patterns

[@antongazaryan2532]

Blackbox711 Read FCTM please. Supplementary prcodure, touch and go. ""At nosewheel touchdown, the instructor pushes on the SPEED BRAKE lever to disarm the ground spoilers. The objective is to initiate the immediate retraction of the ground spoilers, and not to wait for their automatic retraction while the thrust levers are advanced. Carefully disarm the ground spoilers, so that the SPEED BRAKE lever is not moved. If the SPEED BRAKE lever is not in the fully-retracted position, the CONFIG SPEED BRAKES NOT RETRACTED alert will appear and the SPEED BRAKE lever will possibly command speed brakes extension. As per aircraft design, ground spoilers automatically retract when thrust levers are set above CLB detent.""

[@Blackbox711]

+Anton Gazaryan .. well, not sure which company FCTM you are quoting. At my company it says that the spoilers are not armed in touch and go patterns unless a full stop landing is intended. So maybe you stick to your FCTM and I will stick to mine.

[@antongazaryan2532]

Blackbox711 I believe it is standard airbus touch n go procedure, besides it's not very safe to perform runway touch without ground spoilers (especially for not experienced students).

[@abrar380]

You should upload your 737 hydraulic and engine failure with kiss landing.

[@Blackbox711]

Hi Abrar. I will do that next week. Thank you for watching 👍🏻

[@TTHIAGO666]

não gostei deste tutorial, em vez de aprensetares a imagem devias de ensinar a fazer o procedimento dentro do avião sempre é mais fácil, se fizesses isso era muito mais prático e muito melhor para aprender..

[@swapnilkapadia]

Are you a real A320 pilot?

[@Blackbox711]

Yes