FSS Boeing 727 Freighter - Old But Gold! | Brussels - Stuttgart | Real Airline Pilot

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[@A330Driver]

If you're wondering why we came in a bit hot and high: Meanwhile it turned out the DME in the plane is not reading correctly. They simulated it in Statute Miles rather than Nautical Miles. That's about a 15% difference. CanadianCaptainMoustache in the FSS discord developed a code-wise fix, that he posted in that discord. With Marten's (FSS CEO) permission, I created the files including his fixes and could share them in there. Check the FSS Discord if you're interested in those files until an official update arrives.

[@purrple.shadows]

Statute miles in case anyone thinks there is such a thing as Statue miles.

[@A330Driver]

@@purrple.shadows oh no, a typo!

[@marty2704]

Could not find those files in the FSS Discord. Could you post a link to this? Thank you :)

[@A330Driver]

@@marty2704 I don't think you can link into a discord topic, can you? They're in the bug report section under a report called "HSI / DME distances are set to statute miles". By now someone actually made a mod of this which you can simply drop into the community folder. As easy as it gets! But remember to remove the mod again after the update came from FSS!

[@marty2704]

@@A330Driver no report under such name to be found in the Bug Report Section :(

[@juliashenandoah3965]

This plane is so awesome, and beautyfully modeled. Wikipedia says the 727 uses the same cockpit that was also later used in the 737-200 which means we get an absolute retro kinda-737 here too. All these partially open and visible pipes and cables look so awesome and give that plane such an functional and industrial look inside without any regards to fairings, design-elements and comfort like all modern planes have. I bet the heating is some open pipe too below the window sill, and all control surfaces can be optionally controlled by pulleys and wire ropes if the hydraulics fail.

[@simprove]

I hadn't heard about the FSS 727 so your review video was a nice surprise. I worked on a 727 sim for Lufthansa, amongst other airlines, years ago. The DLH F/E told me that once you had set climb thrust there was no need to adjust EPR during climb, the engine Fuel Control Unit took care of altitude variations. I noticed a few systems errors in the video, according to my memory of the systems anyway: The APU appears to start like a 737 APU. In the 727 you had to select APU master ON, wait for the APU door light to illuminate, then select START. APU and External power could not be used together. Selecting one would kick the other off. Similarly when you put the first engine generator online that will kick external or APU gen power off. The AC Generator synchronisation looks very simplified. In reality, after starting the engines, you would connect one engine gen (usually gen 3 IIRC) and adjust the frequency to show 400 Hz. Then select the AC meters to the next engine to be paralleled which would activate the synchro lights, then adjust the frequency on that engine until the synchro lights went out. Repeat for the third engine gen. The synchro lights flashed faster the more the frequency was different. The lights got brighter the more out of phase the gens were. With both lights out the frequency were matched and the gens were in phase. Not easy for beginners. The synchro lights and external power light were not solid white, but were clear bulbs with orange filaments. The INS looks OK except for entering waypoints. The INSERT light should extinguish after entering each coordinate, not stay on until both are entered. That only happens when entering present position. I don't think many 727s had INS, which was horrifically expensive for anything except long haul aircraft at the time. By the time RNAV was being retrofitted better systems than INS were available. Still, it's a handy option if you like the idea of manually entering all those waypoints.

[@A330Driver]

Love to hear it! Thank you very much for those comments as well! I agree some of the stuff looks a little simplified at the moment, I hope they're going to improve it in the future as well. Some things may look different in the FSS model of the plane since there were just so many different 727 variants out there and many airlines highly modified their cockpits. For instance one may have had white lights for the synchro lights while other may have had clear bulbs with orange filaments. In fact the variety of modifications is great enough that FSS managed to include things in their checklist and manuals that their own aircraft does not have ;-)

[@simprove]

Cheers Emi. What I like about the FSS 727 is they have chosen the more modern autopilot with ALT SEL and a VS wheel rather than the very basic AP you in most 727sims. It looked fairly standard to me, if there is such a thing as a standard 727.

[@TimAyro]

The FSS APU exhaust does not have the door installed.

[@simprove]

There's an APU light on the F/E Doors panel. I assumed that was the door. Perhaps that's the fuel valve? I'm working from memory and it's been a long while since I saw the schematics for a 727.

[@user-sm9ee9jq8f]

I enjoyed that immensely; thank you for putting so much time and effort into making these videos.

[@A330Driver]

Thank you very much!

[@niki_bel2283]

@A330Driver regarding setting flaps, there is a detent at 2 degree. This is there to make sure to first check LE flaps extending properly before moving on to extend the flaps further. So the correct sequence woudl be: put it to detent 2, wait until the LE flaps light turned green, then move further. There is a nice original training video series available here on youtube: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGG1oaZ9a75nr6csi=fhommSSXaY1is0wn&t=83

[@A330Driver]

Thanks, I incorporated that into the tutorial series I just recorded!

[@Orffen]

I'm glad you picked up that your CIVA INS alignment coordinates were wrong, you entered W000'27.5 (because you forgot to hit E first). I guess it's why we double check! 🙂

[@lmb5529bml]

If you look inside the gear well you can see the apu, which goes across both sides of the main landing gear. The intake being on the side and the exhaust on the of the right wing root. One interesting quirk of this design is that the APU cannot be operated in flight (at least with the gear up) since the air intake is blocked.

[@A330Driver]

Excellent, thank you!

[@Q4xpsimpilot]

Your east position is wrong please check

[@A330Driver]

@@Q4xpsimpilot Long corrected ;-)

[@jarekp4421]

Thank you very much for the video. I was waiting for your take on FSS 727, I wasn’t sure about it remembering the Embraer fiasco. I have put it on my buy list now, will certainly buy it. I like your video style and through explanations of various systems. Looking for more about 727 and hopefully some tutorials. How about 777 book? Still waiting …

[@A330Driver]

Thank you very much! The book will come this month, it took a bit longer than I anticipated as I just didn't have the experience with releasing a commercial product.

[@Mention-me8js]

You can still normally use gsx even though it says you are late

[@yourloneaviator]

In the GSX settings panel there is the option to ignore the departure time, it's quite a convenient option. I recommend to always leave it checked for time changes like in this case :) Also, does the 727 have servo tabs to the flight controls?

[@anthonyvallillo422]

Yes. They are for manual reversion

[@borsi99]

So hard to see all the instruments in your video if panel lights are all off.

[@737-Sim-Pilot]

Hey Emi great video, As a former 737 driver I must ask, how come the pmdg aircraft’s need extra rudder during the rotation. For instance taking off 5 knots hw 5 knots xw I held centerline well little rudder but on rotation I had to add extra left rudder maintain center line. I thought it was more or less the rudder amount need for centerline control before rotation and during rotation was the same. Thank you for your help, Brayden.

[@dylanmiller9604]

Are they working on a passenger variant?

[@A330Driver]

Yes

[@dylanmiller9604]

@@A330Driver sweet!

[@A330Driver]

Indeed, I can't wait for it!

[@jackson0816]

Ist am Civa-INA ein drift programmiert oder funktioniert das Teil 100%? Danke 🙏

[@Q4xpsimpilot]

Any idea of the cost of your b777 e-book

[@A330Driver]

Around 19,99 most likely.

[@Q4xpsimpilot]

@@A330Driver 19.99 is fair a lot of work goes into something like that

[@A330Driver]

@@Q4xpsimpilot I think so as well. It was some 3 moths of full time work on every day and almost every layover I had.

[@v2plus10_]

Do you use Active Sky for MSFS Captain?

[@A330Driver]

On some flights I do, on others I don't.

[@corwintipper7317]

c 19:00 you put W 0°4.27' not E 4°27.5'

[@A330Driver]

Corrected that a little later in the vid.

[@edmo3334]

Hi Emi I have a question that is related to the 737 every time i am landing the beeping alert starts and i was searching and i found that it is for the gear but the beeping starts when i am 11 miles out of the airport so if you know and could help i would really appreciate it thanks

[@A330Driver]

Do you extend the flaps to 15 without extending the landing gear with the thrust in or close to idle? That would cause the gear warning to come on.

[@edmo3334]

@@A330Driver ooh yes thank you very much and yesterday I found your video when to start slowing the aircraft down it helped a lot thanks again and love your videos

[@baptistecbn3049]

Any ideas of the 777 release date in the marketplace ?

[@adrianramdeholl]

Yeah about that, @A330Driver the PMDG 777 is supposed to be released on the in-sim marketplace today as what Robert Randazzo specifically stated “08Aug the latest” so you are a beta tester of them so can you let me know when it releases. I’ve been waiting for this so long! And I saw your comment this morning on the PMDG forum about something. So please can you tell me that is releasing in the in-sim marketplace. Thanks a lot man

[@A330Driver]

I have no idea about marketplace, I am not involved in that.

[@adrianramdeholl]

Oh ok thanks man I hope this aircraft releases today

[@A330Driver]

@@adrianramdeholl It's out there now!

[@Q4xpsimpilot]

Your dem is in statute miles

[@A330Driver]

yep, figured that later as well.

[@flyguy7287]

Cool looking aircraft but I’m boycotting the developer until they can complete their first plane.

[@A330Driver]

Their first plane is actually complete - it was the Aerosoft Sea Rey, that was developed by FSS, though the name of the group wasn't published back then as far as I remember. But I totally get what you mean, they got to finish those E-Jets!

[@MarekHron]

Your loss. It's a different team working on the 727 and E-Jets are still in Early Access, so there's a clear choice of buy/not buy. They're pretty transparent what they need to do for a full release and what they're working on at the moment. I find these sulking boycotts quite childish, maybe even stupid.

[@sol3cito33]

@@MarekHron Exactly. I'd even say, outright pathetic.

[@TravisPrybylski]

It’s unlikely they will, but I would love if they had the option to choose if you want an EFB or the original file folder. That was you can simulate modern and vintage ops

[@A330Driver]

Make sure to submit a ticket to FSS to get a direct response on your request.