After 2 years of MacOS, I tried Windows again

[@77dris]

Anybody else think Lee made this video as an alibi to explain the sticky keyboard to his wife?

[@TomasRamoska]

Probably, but she is the one to blame she is supposed to keep his 🥜 empty 🤣

[@jvatos]

😂😂😂

[@rexmaximilian9548]

OMG I am literally LOLing!

[@felixbrandau4751]

😂😂

[@jonnham]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@CrawfordHeisz]

Wife doesn’t get her own Mac? “Here’s the sticky laptop I taped up.” 😂

[@lior38]

😂😂😂

[@davidpurple3698]

Give her a Mac

[@cassiuscartland]

either he dosent care about his wife or is poor

[@ArthropodSpidey]

I don't think having a Mac in the first place means he's poor. What a stupid comment.​@@cassiuscartland

[@dom0_2007]

@@cassiuscartland it seems she doesn't care

[@thesamuelnam]

This is what I pay Apple Tax for. Eff that crap.

[@Samtagri]

To remove stickiness from old fake rubber products, use the CIF bathroom cleaner. It is the only cleaning product I tried that completely removes all the stickiness and leaves you with actually nice to use feel. It is bizarre that many high end electronics still use these kinds of materials.

[@ThorDyrden]

talcum powder somewhat works for me, if the plastic is not degraded too much.

[@SToXC_.]

iirc this fake rubbery smooth paint coating on electronics was popular all over the place years ago, cause, WHEN NEW, it feels and looks good, but it melts and becomes a sticky pile of shit after a while as far as i know, there isn't anything anymore that's still using this material for a while now

[@Samtagri]

@@SToXC_. doesn’t seem the laptop Lee is talking about is that old. Also I had a Zoom H5 and a Wacom Cintique, both kind of high end products from around 2016 and they both became a gooey mess after a few years of very light use. But CIF fixed them both. Now they have a nice smooth finish. Not as luxurious as how they originally were. But very presentable.

[@Samtagri]

The CIF cream. Not the sprays.

[@tvrashid]

IPA does the job.

[@skipper63400]

This says more about DELL than Windows. I have switched on my Old Vaio SVZ after 6-7 years, still on Windows 7 and worked like a charm

[@ganthc]

Sony Vaios are premium laptops. I still have two and they work awesomely. My first one is from 2006, and is now running Linux Mint because Windows 7 is out of service. My other Vaio will likely join it on Linux when Windows 10 ends. Both laptops have premium builds, and are usable to this day. But MacBooks are fantastic with their build quality.

[@ryanw8664]

The sticky laptop part is on Dell, yes. But the update issues, unwanted product placement, and random things breaking is very much a universal Windows experience. Coming from someone who has multiple PC brands at my office. If you like troubleshooting, then Windows FTW.

[@skipper63400]

@@ryanw8664 I am convinced Mac/Apple users are much more tolerant and do not complain that much. I cannot believe for instance that they put up all those years with the butterfly keyboard and all these horrible Mac keyboards, or they accept to donate a kidney to get some more SSD capacity when they buy their laptops. This is why also the iCloud is so easily sold to them vs Onedrive. They also they have the benefit of a closed system. In Windows very often the multitude of apps can create problems, but most of what he was showing (ads, search bar, widgets) are nowhere to be found on my windows laptops.

[@ThomasVanhelden]

When I see people complaining about issues they have with other OEMs, there's always people telling them to "buy a better laptop, like the Dell XPS" It never ends. Windows Fanboys keep blaming it on the OEMs, but every single Windows OEM has issues like this that Macs simply don't have. Even though the Dell XPS was almost unanimously called the best Windows laptop, it was riddled with issues from the start. I don't know a single person that ever bought a Dell XPS without experiencing any issues.

[@skipper63400]

@ThomasVanhelden Sorry but Dell XPS is far from the best. Best line of Thinkpads, Elitebooks and lastly Dell Precisions are much better. But most people compare relatively cheaper consumer grade laptops to Macs. And Apple fanboys never complain, even if they had the worst keyboards for years in their Macbooks.

[@FkedupUzzu]

Using windows for 10+ years and not knowing what OneDrive is wild

[@ganthc]

Yeah, I think he made that up for content. OneDrive has been out longer than two years he’s been on Mac.

[@adeeshajayanath]

and he think it is necessary to buy subscription.

[@daillengineer]

I work with MBA's that have no idea what one drive is or how to use it for collaboration. these people use thumb drives lol.

[@danielwick6088]

⁠@@daillengineerwe got icloud so thats not the issue why we use thumb drives, we use em because our ssd‘s starts at 256gb 😂

[@fladoss]

i always used apps like Win10 Tweaker and like this to get rid off all stupid stuff, turn off telemetry, ad things, including onedrive, I didn't know what it was and I never wanted to know after all, but every time I reinstalled my windows (by the way its been 2 years now since I've bought MacBook and never reinstalled the OS since then) this stinky app was always downloading along with the system... also, why do I even need to delete this system apps that can't be installed without using some 3rd party apps or using PowerShell risking to make some shit and never boot up again? i want to buy a laptop and get everything done, working and not asking me to subscribe, buy or even use for free some system app?

[@JaredHoyman]

😂 I laughed throughout this entire video because I can relate. I told my wife for yrs Mac is a ripoff. I bought the MacBook Pro max m2 in March and ended up selling my editing pc a month later. I’ll never go back. I ended up buying my wife a MacBook Air and I never have seen her use a computer as much as I have now. It just works.

[@simply6162]

why do u think after doing all that u dont deserve an huge slap to ur face ?

[@tomhunt5152]

to be fair, macs did use to be a massive ripoff back in the intel days, but since they switched to ARM, they have just easily become the best laptops on the market for 99% of people.

[@tonyhawk123]

@@tomhunt5152I disagree. Macs were better value even in the Intel days. I spent more money on a Vaio but got more use out of a Macbook Pro, which incidentally still looks modern even today.

[@danielreel130]

While I do agree that it just works, and see the multiple benefits of Apple and competitive advantage over Windows. I don't see "It is a great/better (depending on one's perspective) product" and "It's a rip off" as mutually exclusive statements in Apple's case.

[@parkame1]

​@@tonyhawk123lol not even close. And why compare it with the worst possible option? Sony has always been just as much a ripoff.

[@HwL01]

I am Mac user but I think maybe you should use a current laptop to make it a fairer experience.

[@ryutx3717]

this is not a mac vs windows battle, its his opinion about returning to windows after two years...

[@Sub0x-x40]

nothing to do with pc its the OS

[@at_oussama]

Did you just watch the first half of the video talking about hardware, because most of his talk was about the bad Windows OS experience

[@evindrews]

Not really. I mean, I sold my macbook pro 2017 early last year and it didn't have these issues and that's the point. The fact that a 2 year old laptop is already physically degrading to this point is crazy.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

@@evindrews apple fanbois don't even feed anything to their brains. It's not 2 years old laptop.

[@cassiuscartland]

3:27 the reason the computer may not have booted after a while is if the CMOS battery had ran out-it keeps track of the time and some BIOS settings so if your computer ever runs out you won't need to configure the time again. However, the CMOS battery, like all other batteries, runs out after a while.

[@yincognito]

I was going to say the same thing. He's obviously not that good with computers, despite his occasional claims, otherwise he would have known that. Even in his Mac switching videos earlier he was in awe that their system booted up when opening the lid, when that can easily be set up from BIOS or the Power Settings on a PC or Windows laptop too.

[@siklalkis]

​@@yincognito Precisely. I don't get how people do videos like this without previously checking their claims on google. Plus, he is mixing hardware and software complaints just to conclude that windows sucks.

[@yincognito]

@@siklalkis Well, to be fair, he mixed things to reach a similar conclusion in his Mac videos too. At least he admits he might not know how to do this or that like a regular user would, but yeah, folks nowadays are more interested in making their opinion known than in being accurate, especially if the views get monetized...

[@nihilisticprophet6985]

How come it doesn’t happen with my Mac tho. I didn’t use my old MacBook for 3 years and I charge it up and everything is there even the old safari tabs I had opened 3 years ago

[@Category5]

This happened to me. I needed a laptop for my digital mixer for live gigs, and my wife insisted it needed to be a mac. So much so that she bought me one. I connected the mixer, and audio was working flawlessly in about 3 seconds. Literally! On a windows machine there are hours of installs, tweaks, and patches needed to make things work, and even then. Then came photography. Once I saw how color management was universal from app to app, and from screen to printer I was done with windows. I could not beleive how my prints matched my screen EVERY time. I thought it was magic. I never did get Windows color management to work well. I always had to toggle things on and off, and reload profiles. Even then, I'd view something on the desktop with completely different colors than photoshop, even though the settings were set the same. I still have 2 machines, but windows might as well be an xbox. It's a beast for playing games. Anything that needs to get done gets done on the mac, and I haven't even experienced Apple Silicon yet.

[@simply6162]

Once you try Apple silicon you might even dump your Xbox thinking how u stupid u were all these years

[@Lofote]

The digital mixer problem sounds like a problem the manufacturer made not implementing it right under Windows. Thats not where Windows is to blame ;)...

[@Category5]

Oh no. That wasn’t my first rodeo. It was a FireWire mixer I wanted to run on a laptop in 2009. There were literally a handful that could do it reliably in real time, on stage. Went the same for the three desktop interface before that. Windows doesn’t have direct control of its hardware. It has to do it through driver layers. That introduces latency and the chance for hiccups. Mac OS doesn’t even use drivers. Core audio just gives the device priority and you fly. You can even use multiple, unlike audio interfaces at the same time. That’s almost magic coming from years of windows tweaks and special installs.

[@FStoppers]

I feel you on the screen calibration. I’m not a mac user at all but calibrating a screen on PC has been so difficult and convoluted that I just vowed to never do it again. -P

[@Lofote]

@@FStoppersCan you elaborate where it is different? I always used X-Rite, start calibration tool, finished... and on a friends macbook the same. I don't see why this is any different?

[@DanBlondell]

“That’s just Windows now.” Nope, that’s been Windows for 20 years, now you can see it.

[@tenthant]

I feel that's a bit overboard, Windows 7 definitely wasn't this bad lol (and that came out 15 years ago).

[@DanBlondell]

Can’t speak to windows 7. Windows XP had bloatware

[@hajjdawood]

@@tenthant Windows 7 eventually bogs down like every other version of Windows the longer you use it the slower it gets.

[@0w3nn]

@@hajjdawoodNot really true, unless you have an HDD but ok.

[@hajjdawood]

@@0w3nn Of course it is and the fact that you used a clarifier in your statement "Not *REALLY* true" indicates that you would agree to a degree that what I am saying is true.

[@Mishk]

The way he was describing the issues he had on Windows literally made me laugh out loud. It was comedy.

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

Me too. This is such an horrible experience from Dell. Why on earth not buy simply a Surface? After, why Windows 10 in 2023? And really? He does not know what is OneDrive???

[@ReclusiveEagle]

You realize Windows 11 has less than a 25% adoption rate right? I have Windows 11 but blind fanboy defending Microsoft because you hate Apple is a joke. Next year Microsoft may release Windows 12. Why? Because Windows 11 is Windows 10, and they want to build 12 on the back of Co-Pilot and actually new systems. Regardless there was no need to restart 40 times. He could also just uninstall One drive or mute notifications and he would never have had any of these problems. The real major difference is Microsoft's obsession with Ads. Mac OS is the best experience for creators but if you do more than that, for legacy applications or gaming you need Windows. @@jeanbaptistelabelle

[@Mishk]

@@jeanbaptistelabelle yeah idk. I think Apple has done a better job at Microsoft at building machines that end to end function better. Of course there is personal opinion and such. It’s a hotly debated thing. But Microsoft has done a better job at making money off of computers (ignoring the mobile phone world). So hey, maybe Microsoft is the smarter player!

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

@@Mishk Apple is definitely making more money on their hardware. À Mac does not support touch, does not morph in a tablet, does not support pen... And an iPad lacks a lot of software / app and has a super limiting OS and peripheral support. For me, arguably, Microsoft built with the Surface a MUCH better functioning machine end to end. So it seems it is clearly a matter of opinion. Honestly, an iPad alone or a Mac alone are super limiting. And even if carrying both everywhere, which is terrible, it still does not do all what a Surface can do (drawing a mask with the pen with Capture One Pro using the Surface as a tablet in the plane with limited space... Thousand of similar examples where you need the combination of hardware and software).

[@Mishk]

@@jeanbaptistelabelle I grew up in a MSFT household and I was die hard. As time went on all the companies I joined used only Mac (software engineering). So I converted. Honestly I feel like I’m limited when I go to windows interestingly. My frank take is, who cares, use whatever you like. The debates on what’s better are overblown. What’s better is what you like! And I think we get used to our setup and then it becomes hard to switch.

[@stew_redman]

With Windows PC's I build my own. With Laptops, I reformat them and do a fresh install of Windows with minimum telemetry. No bloatware or any other crap. I'm an Engineer. I've worked for multiple multi-national corporations. Every industry I've worked in, from trains, oil rigs, ships, medical and now laboratory equipment has always needed Windows. Mac OS is too locked down and hard to customise for a lot of companies. Setting up a Windows PC can be a pain if you're not used to it, but it's not difficult to switch off all the background crap and advertising. It's only a constant problem if you let it be that way.

[@desohare8683]

Completely agree, and you don't have to be an IT specialist to get Windows working very nicely. I am agnostic. I have 2 windows desktops, one high-ish spec AMD and a 6 year old Intel. Both working well and the AMD very comfortable with 4K video editing. But. I also have an M1 macbook pro and an M2 pro Mac Mini for my professional video work. The Macbook is great. Fast with brilliant battery life. A great purchase. However, Im sorry, I hate the operating system, its archaic file navigation, lack of customisation, weird ways of doing something as simple as formatting a drive. Open a picture, and can you just hit an arrow key to go through the folder? No. etc, etc. It looks and feels like its from the 80`s, but faster. By the way, how can you have used windows exclusively till 2 years ago and not know what Onedrive is? Its part of windows and gives really easy cloud access on computers and mobiles, including my Apple machines, and it doesnt cost anything unless you want Terrabytes of storage.

[@AnotherDay-ce6th]

Exactly. These apple brian less users don't know anything more than photo and video editing lol

[@techtipsuk]

Yeah but you shouldn’t have to be an IT engineer who’s worked in multiple sectors just to be to use a laptop. It’s a disgrace you get all of this garbage with a clean install. Windows has always been the same, shit on top of shit.

[@arunashamal]

You don't need to be an engineer to setup MacOS without bloatware... lol...click yes, yes, I agree and sign into icloud, and all your stuff from iphone, watch, ipad etc... will be there... I can't beieve there are windows apologists in 2024!

[@MegaEllie78]

Thank you so much for this insight. As I was debating whether to get a Mac or Windows.

[@subutayk]

Wow man, 2 years passed? Hard to believe. When I was watching the first and the second Mac videos of yours, I was literally thinking about today while laughing your situation because I was having more or less the same complaints abound 10 years ago. Today I was laughing one more time because I was suffering for my wife, exactly the same about 2 years ago. Eventually I gave her my previous Mac and now no Microsoft products in our house (except company PCs). Big congratulations that you've acknowledged us without being an Apple Fan. This is a fine balance ;)

[@juansanchezdominguez7885]

I crossed the bridge from being an  HATER to a evangelist

[@Bartskol]

Has it really been two years already? Damn! I remember watching you do that comparison with Mac, but was it really two years ago?

[@piotrbaranowski1]

same here 🤯

[@dalelangehennig161]

Got a great laugh out of the "weird cranberry icon" and the "cranberry harvest". 😂🤣😂. I am at my work apartment by myself this morning. Glad I was not home. I was laughing so loud I would have awakened my wife. LOL!!!

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

Whether it’s macOS vs Windows or iOS vs Android, the most valid argument is “it just works” When I was a kid I loved going through every setting, using utilities to make things the way I want them, etc, so I get it…but that’s when computers were toys to me. Now they’re tools.

[@Teluric2]

It just works its a myth I can find in 5 sec many post of mac users that need help The mac user is one of the most likely to tell lies.

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

@@Teluric2 It’s been a little while since I worked in the support side of IT, but my combined experience is in the hundreds of thousands. These users have been about a 50/50 split. At scales like this, 10% fewer tickets saves millions of dollars. Both I and financial analysts run these numbers. So I’m curious where you’re getting your data…

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

@user-wj8kv2rv4u Worldwide, yes, but in professional environments it’s often closer to 50/50. It leans more heavily towards Mac depending on how many engineers, developers, and creatives are employed at an organization.

[@vonPeter_]

I love MacOS but the "it just works" slogan is only the half of the story. Just try to plug a third party mouse or keyboard and you'll know. Apple knows how to annoy you when you trying to step out the line and not pay a cent for their overpriced, ergonomically nightmare piece of garbage peripherals.

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

@@vonPeter_ Really, that’s a very uncommon problem. What keyboard or mouse are you having issues with? Also the Magic Keyboard and Magic Trackpad are top notch, both the same cost as competitors with much much better build quality, so I’m wondering if you’re a bot lol

[@youknowwho9247]

Feels a bit overdramatic. Yes, setting up a Windows system from scratch takes a while. After that though, it just works. Every problem you're describing apart from the restarting issue is due to lack of proper setup. You can turn OneDrive notifications off, you can turn the newsfeed off, you can change the start menu to not show you any ads - or tiles, for that matter. Default windows is a pain, that's fair. However, the whole point of a Windows system over macOS is that everything about it is virtually 100% customisable, so you can set up your system to look and work exactly the way you want.

[@youknowwho9247]

@@nazmulfahad3044 They should be default. However, MacOS should also be much more flexible and customizable. Both solutions have their pros and cons. If you want a system that just works straight out of the box and you don't need a lot of flexibility, go Mac. Personally, I don't mind some setup, I know what I'm doing, and I want my system to do what I want rather than what the manufacturer deems ideal, so I'm on Windows.

[@hajjdawood]

@@youknowwho9247 What a dumb response. macOS is more flexible and customizable especially given its Unix subsystem. You are acting like anyone wants or needs ads filled in their system. Its not an option on macOS just like how mcdonalds doesnt give you the option to add dirty syinges to your food.

[@youknowwho9247]

@@hajjdawood That's just nonsense. MacOS is UNIX based, but it's a closed version of UNIX that's set in stone. My windows has zero ads and it's customized to look the way I want. Can't do that on MacOS. That's just a fact.

[@R1pTheJacka]

As a music producer, it blows my mind when I constantly see people on Reddit recommend Windows because "the specs are just as good if not better." Then they find out they have to install a separate audio driver, adjust settings for latency, move config files from one folder to another for better performance or something...switching to Mac might have added years back to my life in the form of saving time and reducing stress lol

[@AnotherDay-ce6th]

That's called work environment independency. There are several oems so the machine also has to configure differently. Other than US based users, majority people use Windows even for music and video production. And there are engineers, even Apple workhouse use windows for using pro engineering tools

[@synthoelectro]

I'm about to achieve this victory tomorrow, as for the first time in my entire life I'll own a mac, and I've been using windows since 1995. I started struggling with windows about win10, and every version of windows 10 has been a dud. I'm ready to leave, my music inspiration suffers due to it.. MS has become a shell of itself back in XP days.

[@JaysonBumbalough]

I used to repair computers in a little repair shop. We did a lot of format and reinstalls due to systems being toasted by malware. People were so confused why they couldn't get their systems back same day. Sometimes it was due to customers in front of them in our workflow but most of the time it was because it took 4 hours to format and reinstall and properly download and update all the updates from windows. this was 2008 so we dealt with a lot of Windows XP and earlier OS's

[@vivek_v]

And...? A fresh install of MacOS also takes hours, partly because of how complicated it is to make a bootable USB compared to Windows.

[@badongtagalog5737]

@@vivek_vyou dont need install new macos because it doesnt suck like windows. If you you do install you can install it via network and you are done. In windows you have to find those stupid license numbers and scrambling to reinstall back softwares and find the stupid license numbers😂

[@arunashamal]

@@vivek_v it is not complicated, as if you are a new user, it will automaticalled download macos from the internet, it takes time depending on the internet connection, and if you are someone who needs to make a bootable usb, like me I used to repair computers, it is literally one or two terminal commands and it will create the usb for you... it has never been a convoluted process like windows.

[@JimWattsHereNow]

Great video, exactly the same experience, Windows user and pc support person for 30+ years. A real pc fan boy. Switched to Mac just over a year ago due to software we develop on, and crap not ever going back to windows. I get the Apple ecosystem now and things just work.

[@Vachalen]

It's simple. Apple has a draconian grip on the hardware that goes into the apple ecosystem. It works because it doesn't have to deal with 354543 54736254 different configurations that Windows have to deal with. As a Windows and PC support person for 30+ years, like you claim, you sure as hell ain't behaving like one.

[@D0x1511af]

owhh being mac and windows user...the claim seem half baked...even a linux user said macOS still mono tasking if compare to linux and windows that has better shortcut

[@apo.7898]

What doesn't just work on Windows 11?

[@leoklaus]

⁠@@apo.7898Its not about what doesn’t „just work“ on Windows, it’s more about the general experience. Windows sucks hard in many areas, especially the update experience is terrible. It won’t remember what windows were open when rebooting, updates are frequent and can take a really long time. Windows comes with an obnoxious amount of stupid bloatware. Many things just don’t work at all. HDR support in Windows STILL sucks. You often have to install dependencies manually when installing software. Menus are just changed or replaced with new menus that lack critical functionality.

[@apo.7898]

​@@leoklaus Update experience on Windows 11 is good. On 10 it wasn't good.

[@ljuglampa]

These videos don't have much to do with Fstoppers or photography but by now those are my favourites. I just love to see Lee get really dramatic and upset about annoying stuff :D

[@Fran-or3lt]

I would say its user error. Ive had Dell XPS laptops for close to 8 years (13,15. and 17).None of these issues, i uninstalled all Dell bloatware and have no popups..at all. Have a XPS 13 9360 specced out and havnt used it for 2 years, boots no issues, no sticky or melted palm rests, hell even opened it up, repasted it and put a new battery in. Works like a charm. There is a dark art to windows computers, Macs are made to be simple as thats how the underlying OS program was first written. Ps, i also run a M2 Macbook air, and Ipad pro in side car plus iphone 15pro max. I knows apple products inside out.

[@rudolfvanderven]

Haha so relatable. First computer was a PC so grew up on DOS, Windows 95, 98 and XP. When I started studying graphic design in 2006, the classes all used iMacs and I absolutely hated them. Nothing made sense, I didn't get how the windows worked AT ALL and it was all so different. Two years later, I bought my first Macbook Pro and haven't looked back since.

[@dillydadally]

I feel like there were only two arguments here - the constant updates on a new PC and all the ad junk. Anyone with a tiny bit of computer knowledge can get rid of any of this stuff in 5 minutes and I think half the ads were Dell junk. So basically all the complaints were things that are only felt when reinstalling Windows and then after the first day there's no more problems. Sure, that's annoying, but not a good reason to say the experience of using the OS generally is better or worse than another.

[@AlliandWill]

Your annoyance at Windows was hilariously entertaining haha 🤣

[@jeffersondsouza7887]

Your particular laptop seems to have bad drivers. I've always had issues with Mac OS taking 2 hours for a security update when it tells me it will take 30 mins, while Widows takes a few minutes now for each update. Most of the people commenting here have switched over to one platform and then find the old one bad, I use both Mac OS and Windows devices daily for the same tasks, video and graphic design, overall, windows has less annoying popups compared to mac os, provided you opt out of all the tracking and advertising stuff while setting up Windows for the first time, and your laptop costs at least 1000 USD so its not loaded with adware from the manufacturer

[@laez]

Agreed

[@WalrusRiderEntertainment]

I call windows “Win Blows”. The few programs I like in windows I run on the Mac in Parallels. Best of both worlds

[@mengshun]

35+ career SW engineering with Windows and same for personal use. I am so on board with this. And same experience - got a M1 Mac and have not looked back. Wife got a high end Dell and it's garbage. Do I miss some things? Sure. Do I miss Windows file management? Yes. But everything else.. effin no way. Driver hell, Performance beyond 5 min hell, durability hell, patch hell, battery life hell... just no. No more. And now we're staring down the barrel of being migrated to Windows 365 and Windows OS in the Cloud. Not. Even. If and when Windows ever gets its act together some some track record, sure I can be swayed. But not now and not for awhile.

[@TimelyAdventure]

I wonder how good Windows on Arm will be once Snapdragon debuts their M-series beating chips, I'm on Mac OS and it does feel like Windows is more cluttered than it used to be when I used it several years ago

[@Lofote]

Driver hell? never had that. Buy quality Windows computers and you don't ever have driver problems :)... I literally administrate ~1000 computers at my customers and I never get driver problems, because I let my customers buy good computers :).

[@ajnart_]

You miss windows file management ? On Mac it’s just Unix it makes so much more sense. The filesystem is so much better too

[@Lofote]

@@ajnart_ i like the windows folder structure much more than the unix ones. /bin, /etc, /var, ... thats all not very innovative

[@raymonddsouza8948]

Which computers, genuinely curious?@@Lofote

[@0000kris0000]

About 10 years ago Fstoppers was one of the best photography channels that helped me learn photography with loads of photography videos. I love that now it’s just a platform for Lee to just moan about technology 🤣🤣👏🏻👏🏻

[@ThorDyrden]

This update description sounds like you used the years old Windows-Installation media, instead of getting the latest variant, which will already include most of the updates you now needed to install one by one (downloadable from MS). I would expect your experience would have been similar, when reinstalling your MacBook with some "High Sierra" install-media, which first needs to update itselfs to the latest macOS. The reboots on Windows are pretty much down to a minimum for me - not even the last yearly-update to 23H2 needed a reboot. Also have an XPS - luckily not sticky yet... but I know this effect from other "soft-plastic" surfaces... once you don't touch them for months - they suddenly start "bleeding out"... guess it has something to do with skin-oil keeping them fresh, but without it they start drying out and bleed out their softeners. If that's the case not the best choice from dell imho. But that is an XPS problem - not a Apple-solution or even Windows issue. My way older Asus notebook is full aluminum and looks great - the Lenovos we use at work the same.

[@hajjdawood]

"instead of getting the latest variant, which will already include most of the updates you now needed to install one by one (downloadable from MS). " Which just highlights another superior point of macOS, on any mac I can just hold Command + R to enter recovery mode and reinstall macOS and it will automatically pull the latest build instead of having to hack together a bootable USB drive like you do on windows.

[@vivek_v]

@@hajjdawood "hack together a bootable USB drive" Yeah, and it's Apple's fault that they can't make a simple way to boot from USB. Internet Recovery is an absolute PITA with slower Wifi connections. Having dedicated USBs for Windows installations is so much faster in case I need them in the future.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

@@hajjdawood that sounds horrible. Why not use USB stick?

[@hajjdawood]

@@TheFourthWinchester Horrible? You push a button on your keyboard and your done. vs finding a USB stick, formatting it, installing the latest from Microsoft, using tools to remove all the garbage MS adds, then dealing with UFEI/secure boot settings and praying the installer works good.

[@SPECTRA890]

​@@hajjdawoodI tried that over bad internet connection it was a night mare. I ended up leaving it on the Mac Os X. After the 4th failed attempt at over 50%

[@bydaniel-971]

I also began with Windows . . . I just ordered my second MacBook Air, the M3. My M1 is still extremely fast and capable, but it's 4 years old now and wanted to update. I'm getting the M3 with 16GB Memory, and 1TB SSD. I am a graphic designer and use Adobe software. If you have no experience with a Mac, you couldn't possibly understand why Mac users are completely in love with Apple!

[@compguild]

I went Mac a few years ago, after years of building my own PC’s. I think I’ve literally saved myself years of messing about. Mac just works, almost everything is seamless and integrated, no viruses and nasty crashes etc. I got my life back. The whole ecosystem (phone, iPad, watch etc.) just intergrate….. apps are well written and stable. But, also the hardware is solid and beautiful to look at, it lasts for years and has re-sell value. I’d never go back.

[@pault8630]

Happy for You. For example for me using the Apple ecosystem was one of the worst experiences ever. For example I bought first the Ipad. I connected him to my Windows Laptop and surprise. Ipad can't be seen as a regular hard drive. You had to install iTunes and from them give the permissions to some apps on the Ipad to be able to put anything on the Ipad drive. Why? Probably only to make people angry. I will stay with Windows. As I did for 25 years. Trying Apple products was a big mistake for me. You got everything You need in Windows laptop and for like half a price.

[@szymonlipinski2974]

⁠​⁠@@pault8630so you didn’t try apple ecosystem, but tried integrating windows with ios/ipados. I get that it sucks but literally the whole point of ecosystem is using at least two devices (in this case two apple devices)

[@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_]

"no nasty crashes" when in the last video he showed a bunch of them. Enough of the kool aid 😂😂

[@compguild]

@@pault8630 do you know what 'Mac Ecosystem' means my friend ?....last time I looked a Windows Laptop wasn't part of it. .

[@pault8630]

@@compguild I know exactly what that means. When I said that I connected it to Windows laptop this does not mean that I did had macbook as well. But using macbook, ipad and iphone on daily basis made me annoyed. I was keep asking myself a question "Why this things cannot just work?" That is why I returned to Windows laptop. Which is working completely fine btw. All usb sticks working with no problems. Same android tablet. You have a usb stick formatted in NTFS? Macbook will not accept it fully. That is why I had constant headache with this "apple ecosystem". That is why I returned with relieve to Windows and android. I just came out with the idea that I do not have time for everyday fight with my system. If that suits others...well good for them. Just this things are not for me. Not for that price either.

[@eremdgrl]

your cmos battery might have run out or is faulty causing the bios fiddling for first boot

[@dean6125]

yeh sounds like bios config corruption 👍

[@jgates]

Next episode: "My wife nearly left me when I gave her my old Windows computer." I hope you don't actually give her that mess. 🙂

[@rodneytopor1846]

My thought as well.

[@karmatraining]

Halfway through this video I was like "Well I guess wifey is getting a new 15" MacBook Air after all"

[@purplecorpse4230]

Yeah I thought the video was going to end differently… like he couldn’t afford to get his wife a refurbished MacBook or something instead of his leftover old ass pc? lol

[@Razertw]

Get her a M1 Air. Join the dark side.

[@drinkinslim]

Honey, we now have no money left in our account, but here's an Apple computer. :D

[@liam4184]

I mean, you're comparing Windows 10 to the newer Mac OS. Windows 11 is a lot cleaner and simpler and they seem to be copying Mac OS a bit more. I'm not saying it's perfect, but as a user of both OS' they both have their pros and cons.

[@Goldmaster]

Problem with windows 11 is that there are some bugs around file explorer crashing and randomly displaying.

[@liam4184]

@@Goldmaster Personally I have windows 11 on work PC, laptop and home PC and haven't experienced this. There's always going to be bugs on both OS's. Maybe Windows has more? but I've personally never ran into anything that bad.

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

​@@Goldmasteron a Microsoft machine ???

[@coxyjmz]

All he had to do was remove one drive from start up processes

[@Mc_Fly]

I personally have used both and have nothing against MacOS. BUT: In my opinion this is by no means a "Fair" comparison. You start off by saying that you grabbed your "old Dell" from the shelf where it has been sitting for over a year and not been turned on. Then you complain that this specific Dell Lineup has problems with the build quality and that it's sticky, etc... What has that to do with Windows exactly? There are a whack ton of devices that have an all aluminum body design and that are built very very well. So that is not a valid point against windows. Same with the error upon boot where a setting in the BIOS had changed. This has nothing to do with windows. This is again on Dell. Also then you complain that you had to install a ton of updates. Like... What do you expect from a Windows 10 Laptop that has not been used in over a year? Obviously there are updates. And yes if you do a OS Update on a Mac it also reboots. I personally don't have any application that immediately reboots my PC after installing it. Yes there are some installations that ask to reboot the PC but most of the time you can ignore it and use the software as is. This is on the Developer and yet again not on Windows. Also when showing the Screenshots of the Windows Updates you mixed in WIndows 8 into this. Why not use the actual screenshots? And that OneDrive Pop-Up you've been talking about: You can either disable it so it won't start on boot or simply uninstall OneDrive completely. It's that easy. MacOS and iOS also try to sell you iCloud like it's a cure for cancer. I can already hear the comments coming in that are saying "oh he's a Mac-Hater" or "Windows Fanboy..." But if you carefully watch that comparison without preferring one side more than the other, this is objectively not a fair comparison.

[@avySeal]

I remember watching your first video of the ‘first time you started using MacOS’. Two years later, sounds like you’re loving MacOS. I’m a MacOS users but I have to constantly update my parents Windows & Android devices. I feel your pain. Haha. Great video, thanks.

[@ReginaldVandeVelde]

This! My dad is on Android I am literally helping him out every single week with updates & mishaps, to the point I'm now thinking of buying him a refurbished iPhone! I bet a lot of us share the same frustration.

[@theKIB]

I can only partially relate to this. Yes, I get every other day a call about Windows issues: "Why is Edge opening my PDFs?" etc... and also Android used to be an issue. However, since my parents moved to Google Pixel, with literally no bloat preinstalled, my life got much easier, without teaching them iOS.

[@clickbaitpro]

@@ReginaldVandeVelde You sounds like you never updates your iphone. You've to do the same even if your parents have iphone

[@vivek_v]

@@ReginaldVandeVelde You seriously can't click the button that says "update"? Maybe once you use an iPhone, you will realize how annoying it is to deal with their stupid update pop-ups... especially when iOS 16 and 17 are buggy messes from my experience. Keeping my iPhone SE 2 on iOS 15 is an absolute nightmare, though it's better than ruining it with iOS 16 (which is what happened to my iPhone 8).

[@vivek_v]

@@theKIB "Why is Edge opening my PDFs?" Is that supposed to be bad? TBH, I would rather have that than opening it in a separate PDF viewer window.

[@gastonhitw720]

Plot twist: Bro was never a windows user

[@nazirovahmad4216]

He was and I was too. Windows is trash.

[@somemoresmors]

We've been bamboozled!!

[@gastonhitw720]

@@nazirovahmad4216 windows 11 is trash, I do like almost all previous versions except for 8

[@miroslavstevic2036]

Same here. I tried to set up Windows for my wife and gave up. It was unpredictable, having will of its own. We both use Linux now. Kids use Windows for gaming though.

[@ngck]

My Dell XPS 13" suffered from this as well, after being put in storage for less than a year. Isopropyl alcohol and quite a bit of elbow grease can be used to remove the stickyness.

[@ThiloWitting]

lmao, I was a Windows user for a long time and also switched to Mac after all those updates, bugs, and everything drove me insane. Can't believe Windows looks worse now than when I switched to Mac years ago. :D Happy to pay my Apple tax, thanks for reminding me.

[@brown2840]

The title of this video should be "Confirming My Bias - An Ode To Apple"

[@111-Ti]

I really got entertained by your video Gentleman 😊👌🏼your style in presenting your frustration from windows is really humorous yet realistic 😎👍🏼

[@TimFitzwater]

I hope this happens to me. I got a great deal on a MacBook M1 Max and I absolutely love the power. Same as you(and partly influenced by your vids) I have replaced my custom editing tower PC. But I am not yet used to the OS or the frustrations of file management on a Mac. I really hate trying to multi task across monitors. (The menu bars not sticking with apps is awful) I know I’ll get used to most of it - but even if I never like the OS - being able to have a high quality feeling machine that I can hook to a 2 4K monitors, my speakers, cards reader, extra SSDs, and internet with one cable then unplug that one cable and edit 4K videos at the brewery…. It’s worth it.

[@karmatraining]

I wish Apple would let pro users customize Finder more than they do. Just let us do what we want. Normies can keep default macOS.

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

Yeah, it is weird. He is not complaining about Windows but about Dell hardware and software. Maybe the reason why half of the student in Switzerland are using Surface and a significant other portion iPad Pro with pen.

[@ArthropodSpidey]

Switzerland is a tiny country. No one cares.

[@sh1pp]

The cranberries and other Microsoft loyalty begging services/applications are straight Microsoft, not Dell. The software updates are probably a mix, but he’s comparing with Apple where they do cumulative updates instead of stacked ones and where installation of most applications requires no reboot. At least 75% of the issues are from Microsoft, not Dell.

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

@@sh1pp no clue what is a "begging services". Microsoft is showing 2 things at install: XBox pass and OneDrive. If you have ever used an iPhone or MacOS, you would have realized that Apple pushes iCloud the same way. Plus you have ton of bloat ware on iOS for instance. So no, I do not see the difference. Sorry. Most of what he complains about is mostly Dell, not Windows. And do not tell me that MacOS major upgrade does not require a reboot.

[@sh1pp]

​@@jeanbaptistelabelle I am not re-watching the video to check, but from my memory he has 4-5 complaints specifically from MS (uncombined updates creates more updates on an out of date PC (Apple bundles out of date updates better reducing reboots when catching up), need to update after installing more applications than on Mac, injecting News and unwanted icons into the Start menu and search bar, frequency and style of One Note requests) and a few from Dell (some of the updates installed going to be for Dell drivers/software, probably linked IN, bad material choices). I am sure you know that most people don't buy MS devices as they historically did not have that option and now have very few, so this is the experience MS has designed by giving control of hardware support to their partnered vendors. I 100% agree that Apple's iCloud is comparable with OneDrive, but if you look at 5:08 you will see the variety of alerts he gets when opting out, and you don't get that on Apple. I think his issue was with the style of the nagging.

[@alexmm01]

I appreciate all the ads that MacOS doesn’t have but cleaning up windows 11 to not be annoying only takes 30 seconds. Out of the box, it can be annoying. And I am not so sure why you had so many updates. I just installed windows (local vs cloud reinstall) on a 3 year old MSI laptop. About 20 updates and rebooted 2-3 times. Now up to date. I think it took about 30 minutes total.

[@heinerjost2154]

😡 Am I the only one who can not relate? The built quality is not related to the OS. I agree that Apple has a good build quality. However I am using Thinkpad T Series and HP Elitebooks for 15 years no and had no issues with the material. Especially the older models allow to upgrade and replace parts which is a big advantage for me. Installing updates on Windows really is no fun, but to be fair - Installing an old OS on a Mac will also force you to install updates. I make sure to download the latest Windows ISOs and it never takes me more than 30 min to format and install. Less then 10 min if I restore a backup. My company gave me a Macbook Pro with Core I9, 32GB Ram and 1TB SSD. I really hated this one. It was heavy, loud, and the battery was always empty. Working in a Windows domain was no fun. Apple Photo somehow looks like a joke to me. When I upload JPG and RAW at the same time it is one item and I need to export to get to the RAW, but if I import the JPG first and ten the RAW file, I cannot join it? However I would never say that all Macs are crappy. Funny that you mention that Microsoft wants you to pay for Onedrive. Thank God Apple provides their services and tools for free. There are different operating systems and different notebook models that fit different requirements. Recently I got a refurbished T470s for 200$, upgraded to 20GB Ram and installed Linux. I really like having network and USB A ports without using adapters, but obviously it is not brilliant for photo or video editing. However I still like your videos on Photography. Sounds like you know what you are talking about.

[@mibreit-photo]

I guess some day I should try mac again. But I still remember when I had to write software for and on a Mac and it was hell. I was constantly forced to do updates to everything - I get it the ecosystem. But I never liked it. Currently, there's no reason for me to switch to a Mac though. My Dell XPS still works and isn't yet sticky ;-)

[@roodick85]

Same...my HP, Lenovo and Surface works perfectly none of this mess he's talking about lol

[@hajjdawood]

@@roodick85 because you are used to the crap, once you use macOS when you go back youll see and feel it.

[@hajjdawood]

Updates are never forced, you actually have to go out of your way to enable automatic updates.

[@mibreit-photo]

@@matei9k I have no problems with the stack. I was more talking about the endless update requirements back in the days. It was in 2008 / 2009 when I last wrote software for Mac and it was annoying. Example: To write software for the new IOS, I needed the latest XCode. To use the latest XCode, I needed to further updates of the Mac System and so on. Maybe it's better now, but back then one update required another, required another... Nowadays I develop on Linux and I typically have a Docker Dev Container with everything I need, including tool-chains for compilation, in it.

[@MarkRosengarten]

I went fully over to Mac years ago. It just works. Recently, my mom bought a serious gaming rig, running Windows 11. So I set it up for her. Same thing, reboot after every little thing. The amount of crapware preloaded was insane and the constant wheedling from M$ to buy another of their services as you go through the start up process was just disgusting. Then an automatic update corrupted Windows and the system had to be flushed and started fresh. So I went through it all again. Then it happened one more time, a day later. The did a fresh install without the crapware and the machine has been running smoothly ever since. The experience cemented my determination to stick with MacOS and iOS products.

[@limerickgangster]

It's cruelty to give your wife that laptop!

[@vanhaze2000]

I work as an IT support engineer seconded for 2 companies. Company A has Windows users, company B has Apple users. For company A i am making over hours, for company B i just sit back and relax the whole day. Go figure. 🤣

[@chamoore]

I'm a windows user but my wife has m1 macbook pro. When she has a problem, I have to deal with that. Troubleshooting on Mac OS is the worst nightmare.

[@vonPeter_]

I disagree, after 25 years on Windows I've switched to Mac 2 years ago and troubleshooting is the same amount of effort as on Windows. You are just not used to the different problems and different approaches. Googling it and the solution is literally 3 clicks away every time. Just like on Windows.

[@rodhoutx]

I use Macs and PC's, but the struggle is real for doing a new Windows install and then going through all the updates. Then downloading and installing any needed drivers from Dell. Just as a comparison, if you do a clean install on a Mac it will download the latest Mac OS version, which of course already has all the updates in it, and you're done. Plus Time Machine for backups since it will also restore your applications and settings (since it's all just file based).

[@kh1188ish]

Switched to Mac mini early this year and love it. There was a bit of an initial learning curve/frustration but challenge accepted and overcome. I thought there was no way on board graphics would be as powerful as my Nvidia graphics card but OMG I was wrong. The little quiet unassuming Mac mini runs circles around my i7 32GB pc. The straw was a pc update that rendered my graphics card unusable until I did a window restore… what a mess, never again.

[@weibrot6683]

yeah, the M. GPUs are adequat, not great, but fast enough for most users, it's just a bit unfortunate that you can't do too much with the Apple GPUs besides the basic stuff

[@weibrot6683]

@@matei9k That would be a decend argument, but it only has the small problem that most software doesn't exist on mac in the first place, besides that you can only get so far with hardware specific optimisation, and with all the different combinations of M1,2,3,4 pro, max ultra and different RAM configurations you're not off that much better than windows

[@weibrot6683]

@@matei9k Easiest example i can give you is to go on steam and filter by macOS as operating system, around 25% is available for that OS, but that includes both arm and x86-64 systems, for M chips the numbers are likely much closer to 1% than to 25%. Maybe you personally don't care about gaming, and that's fine, but keep in mind that gaming is the single biggest consumer software market in the world, i just gave you an example of 140.000 pieces of software that aren't available on MacOS, now try to do the reverse

[@newtonwonghk]

Mac never DISTURBS you with forced reboot / forced update / ads because it respects you gotta freaking work. Used Windows 3.1 95 NT XP Vista 10 for years. They never change the worst part in the OS which is CONSTANTLY INTERRUPTING you. I stay away from anything MicroSoft as much as possible now. Fresh install means spending hours disabling the tonne of crap that comes with Windows.

[@JJPDESIGNS]

Sticky plastic on your Dell laptop? Microsoft's fault? Um, Ok ... I can only speak from my own experience having a 12 year old Windows laptop that I use twice a year and it is running Windows 11 - no problems - and still fast. My desktop - windows 11 - no issues. My only observation - I don't use Dell specifically because of the mysterious types of problems you encountered on your Dell. Note - I also have a Mac - and it runs fine... but I always prefer the Windows system for most tasks. Some people like Pasta - Some people like rice - Some people like both. Sometimes you get a bad bowl of pasta and sometimes you get a bad bowl of rice... doesn't make declare whichever as eternally bad - just one bad experience... llke you loved Windows for years and suddenly have one bad experience with a computer you fire up after a year of non-use and suddenly "everything about it sucks."

[@longingbydesign]

How did you even get Windows 11 with its crazy system requirements to install on a 12 yo machine? Can't even install it on a 4 year old machine.

[@savos2229]

If you really love your wife, buy her a Mac. She'll be grateful.

[@mogenshansen7210]

I can relate. It is pretty close to my experience, having a Dell XPS 15 and a Macbook Pro M2. My Dell is working fine (my previous XPS wasn't working fine - heavy thermal throttling), and not falling apart. But all of the updating, rebooting and pushing various offering when I just want to get stuff done. And that is before talking about battery life and performance

[@ThorDyrden]

you get updates yes... I want them - in deed I phase out IT equipment not being supported with updates any more. But what am I doing different, that I only have to reboot on really signifcant updates - once or twice a year, where more or less half of the OS got exchanged or of course on UEFI-Updates? I can't remember, when a normal Windows update or driver needed a reboot last time - and I have three different Windows 11 Systems in daily use. Not even such low-level updates like GPU-driver need a reboot.

[@SToXC_.]

idk how y all have issues and all this blootshit my windows 10 laptop also Just works fine 😅 and i dont have all this reboot thing, i think you guys are making the issue bigger than it is, literally after the good first setup (that still takes time, as it should, on any device) everything is good to go and i can just forget about even having a "windows" or whatever, and just do what i need

[@hajjdawood]

@@SToXC_. Its like a hoarder, you are used to crap, once you go on a clean OS it will make sense. I was the biggest Windows fan for almost two decades buying almost every major Windows version on day 1. Windows 95, 98 second edition, XP, Vista, 8, 8.1, 10 being the last one I bought. When I worked at Google (as an IT support staff) it was the first time I was really exposed to macOS and ultimately was sold by the hardware build quality and how great the trackpad worked. Once I experienced how clean and uncluttered the OS was and how easy and clean updating was going back to windows was such a terrible experience.

[@robertmcgee4050]

I had the exact same experience. I used Windows since version 3.1. Only in the last few years of my career did I begin also using a MacBook Air. After retirement, I used the MacBook Air exclusively for a year. One day I needed to move some files in... OneDrive... and turned on the Windows PC. Suddenly I totally got what the Apple fanboys had been scoffing at. Initially I disliked MacOS because it seemed so "thin", stripped down, and lacking in features. This time, Windows reminded me of a little cupcake with 3 inches of frosting and sprinkles and birthday candles stuck in it - just SO MUCH CRAP to get through! And of course, several hours of updates, since it had been turned off for a year.

[@rezen24]

My first MacOS machine was a 13" Intel MacBook Pro that I bought with air miles years ago (with the touch bar)... there are still some things that absolutely drive me bonkers on MacOS (such as changing backup location for iPhone) ... but as you indicated, so much stuff is just easier and not nearly as irritating as on Windows these days. Makes you wonder ... what kind of User Experience initiatives Microsoft and Apple have? They both seem to miss the mark in so many ways, although Apple less than Microsoft at least from an OS extent (in the way that I personally use the OS).

[@JesusArmasOficial]

So relatable on how many things are inside Windows now that are sneaked into the background. I’ve seen these things on my PC too and it’s just distracting. That’s why I’m barely using my PC now for work and I’m relying even more on my MacBook. I still like PCs for gaming but I don’t think I’ll be using it for music production in a very long time.

[@levifig]

This is pretty much par for the course. The reason a lot of folks are adamant about recommending Macs to other folks is because they themselves know “where they come from”… 😅 FWIW, I use Linux, Windows, and macOS daily. I know the pros and cons of each system. I will vehemently recommend Macs, especially to people who use their computers to get work done! My “family support requests” have gone down to near 0 since I got everyone on Macs about 10-15y ago! 🙏

[@mikeandersonwa]

This is exactly how I feel every time I use my wife's laptop... or the computer at work. I get that you can customize the hell out of Windows, and there are tons of hoops you can jump through to make it work beautifully, but when I get a computer I don't want to have to customize it and jump through hoops. I like having a clean interface that just works exactly how I want it to.

[@billx4266]

Jeez dude, start making a newer usb stick with a newer windows 11.... then you dont have to restart it 1000 times.

[@thefly373]

That's exactly what I was thinking. Those 3.5" floppies suggest his OS version is a few generations old... that and the popup messages look like Windows XP. How long ago was that released?

[@vonPeter_]

Big thumbs up for this tip! Sometimes I have to reinstall Windows computers (for friends, relatives, etc). I always start with the download of the latest Windows version and then install that ISO from a USB drive. (I'm a Mac user for 2 years now btw)

[@ZheLi05]

I am mostly impressed by confidence of this KZbinr with over 1M subscribers who never bothered to get the video reviewed or even just simply checking he is using the latest Windows version. Well, I guess that is how you can attract clicks. (I could create a video of using Windows XP and complain that things don't work. but what's the point?)

[@mnjackson5772]

"It feels like I just accidentally downloaded some form of virus..." Exactly. You did! It is called Windows. You just did it on purpose.

[@HCMORGI]

I feel like Windows is a very different experience in the US? For me, there are no ads, no linkedin, no nothing. Maybe the EU has Microsoft regulated well enough, thanks I guess haha

[@ThinLineMedia]

Dell XPS has always been crap since the start of this model. I have other Windows laptops that look the same after many years. Also my all aluminum Acer Predator 500 looks like new after almost 4 years of every day use. And I just purchased Acer Predator 17x with RTX 4090 that has double the performace of M3 Max.

[@GlennBrownOz]

Sorry if you don't even know what OneDrive is then you never really knew Windows. Agree with all the extra Spam though, Microsoft has been very bad the last few years in this space, but it's not like Apple doesn't shove their own apps at you it's just less irritating.

[@OregonRose2010]

I've been using a MacBook Pro in some fashion since 2013, and will never go back to a Windows computer. I have various Windows versions (XP, 7, 10, and 11) in VMs for odds and ends as-needed, however (legacy stuff and to run old games 😂). My next and final computer will most likely be an M3 Max MacBook Pro. Thank you for this video!

[@shiladitya_biswas]

"The updates need an update". Couldn't have been summed up any better

[@Toglander]

I’ve never once been asked to buy iCloud and I’ve owned several MacBook Pro’s over the last 12 years.

[@MansoorJawed]

I have a singular apple device: an iPad. I've had it for 1-2 years. Even I have had ads related to iCloud so I don't believe you. Albeit, a lot of it was advertisement after the storage was full but if u get only 5gb of storage with iCloud enabled by default, that's guaranteed to hit soon enough.

[@SquareOFortune]

“Ladies and gentlemen… …we got ‘im.” 😆 Happy to see you’re still enjoying the M1 after a bumpy start. My Mac is my go-to tool for work and visual/audio projects, and my PC is my main gaming rig and for apps I don’t feel like getting setup on my Mac. Definitely can be weird going back and forth between the two worlds, but it’s been part of my workflow and hobby time since about 2010 at home and all my jobs since then. Different tools for different jobs, I suppose. But troubleshooting random stuff going on with my Windows desktops is definitely more annoying than troubleshooting stuff that might happen on my Mac, that’s for sure.

[@PatSmashYT]

The problem is that you're comparing a cheap $500 laptop from 10 years ago to a top-of-the-line $5000 brand new laptop. Also I never set up OneDrive on my gaming PC and I never got notifications about it.

[@hampantsthedesroyer]

Breaking News: Old ignored computer needs updates.

[@xintophotography9848]

I've reinstalled old ignored MacBooks. It was easy and pain free.

[@vonPeter_]

@@xintophotography9848 Windows's update system is different. If you download the latest Windows installer from their website and install that ISO from a USB drive, you can avoid the painful part.

[@Mikey-ym6ok]

Updating a Mac took like ten mins of wait time and one click, and done.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

This is more of a you problem because you're using a 10 year old laptop that's still getting updates from MS. I just got a new laptop and it works so well.

[@NYsports890]

The computers have a CMOS battery (like the same as a watch battery) on the motherboard. They expire after about 5 years. Then the BIOS reverts to factory settings. That is why you needed to change a BIOs settings for it to boot.

[@SToXC_.]

​@@ramp6727you re saying this as if its some sort of Pro or advantage for macbooks? 😂😂 its irrelevant

[@hiboostsupra5965]

I drove my neighbor's Model T and now I realize I totally don't like Ford. Super helpful, right?

[@jwlindsa]

That was a great video! I have been a Mac user for some time and was forced to use a Windows Surface Pro computer and I feel you! The constant updates and random freezing were just a couple of the myriad of issues I encountered! I finally got fed up and would bring my personal Mac laptop in to work on!

[@Teluric2]

Tell me how muxh hits you get when you google " macs freezes" Can you show a proof that your windows freezes or is just a virtual issue to bash windows on a computer that doesnt exist?

[@gmcubed]

Ok, but this just the set up process. Didn't say much about the period after you've set things to your liking, which is going to be the vast majority of your experience with the os.

[@SalsaBailaProductions]

I dont miss the amount of countless hours troubleshooting windows

[@thefly373]

As though Macs have no problems. Both platforms are decent today, just like Android and iPhone. Every platform has their strengths.

[@SalsaBailaProductions]

@@thefly373 i used both for years and macs have way less problems and if you run into a problem you cant fix they have customer service thats hard to beat;)

[@Slave-Of-Christ]

@@thefly373 Countless hours? No.

[@jacquescoetzer-au]

​@@thefly373 I spend way more time troubleshooting my gaming PC that I only use occasionally than my daily driver MacBook Pro. Yes, Macs aren't immune to issues but I spend far, FAR more time fixing basic issues on Windows 11 that are non-issues on macOS.

[@thefly373]

@@jacquescoetzer-au On Windows 11, there are occasional issues, but they are very rare. The biggest issue is updates to windows that get pushed out, but those are mostly improvements or security patches. In the last year on the 6 Windows PC's I have in my household, I spent almost NO time troubleshooting any issues. The problem with Windows is the vast array of hardware options that the OS needs to support. No doubt the wrong hardware and a poor driver can cause problems.

[@RockyBell]

He was using mac for just 2 years and forgot about onedrive, really dude?

[@bradavon]

Dude is using a Windows version from 2015 in 2024 and comparing it to a modern Mac. This is not how modern Windows works 🤦‍♀️.

[@mcnc88]

It was more stable back in 2015…

[@VoidPaul97]

Windows in 2015 was better than Windows 11. Imagine removing dragging an app to the Taskbar or dragging a file to another app using only Taskbar previews... Did they bring it back? Yes. But that doesn't change a thing. Windows 7 was the last worthy-to-use Windows version. Windows 10 was mid. And I say this as someone who hated everything Apple released from 2013 to 2020.

[@AtomLabX]

It is the same wether you like to admit or not, plus he formatted to a newer version.

[@Skkyyyyyyyyyyy]

A true windows lover would say any version of Windows beats MacOS.

[@tascker0]

This is totally wrong, Windows is very atable and neat nowadays.

[@robhofkes3221]

Windows has nothing to do with the sticky plastic. Also you can just install Linux and you have no.problem with rebooting. The real downside of Apple is that can not update either the ram or ssd. I have to admit that the Apple goes a long time with the battery. Just on a side note Apple OS looks very similar to Linux

[@RenBobbins]

I use Mac in my personal life and Windows for work. MacOS is far superior from a UX perspective. When Mac updates, once a month or so, it takes 5 minutes and it’s completely painless. Windows updates twice a week and constantly has to restart, or you lose performance. I hate how expensive everything Apple is, but owning Apple everything is completely stress free. I’m not going to say “it’s worth it”, but I want to.

[@Teluric2]

Stress free? google " mac overheating issues"

[@Vincent13997]

My experience is pretty much the same. Been using windows since 1990 and was pretty much committed. Then about 7 years ago I tried a Mac and was immediately hooked. I care about the build quality but it’s the OS I want. If it wasn’t such a pain to build a Hackintosh I’d even go that route. And I really, really don’t miss the fricken overnight installs and updates. Literally hours and hours to install windows.

[@simonemastellonephotography]

After 6 years of MAC OS i return to Windows on my descktop , no regret , with windows i can do more

[@oh_goliath]

I really hope you saved yourself so much future trouble and just bought or built her an office PC. If it sits at a desk full time, a laptop (especially an old one with that many issues) is unnecessary.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

He has a desktop lol, that's the point, that Dell laptop isn't old, you can buy a MacBook from the same year and still get good use out of it

[@kevingw5379]

Now a mac os user for over 8 months, the thing that drove me out of windows too was the updates and constant troubleshooting and intrusive messages. You wake up in the morning with a deadline or something urgent to deal with and you run into "windows updating don't turn off your computer!". Apparently after every "UPDATE" something breaks and that important application that you really need runs into an error and you need to restart. Every single time I would have to reinstall drivers for bluetooth and wifi because they would randomly stop working. WHY? Then I switched to mac and I was surprised why I had to endure all that crap. Now my wifi and bluetooth are always on, I take out my wireless earbuds "connected", I put away my earbuds I turn on my bluetooth speaker "connected". I go to work my macbook automatically connects to wifi, I go home my macbook automatically to my home network. It works every single time, NO TROUBLESHOOTING! Best of all no distracting messages and ads that you have to say no to a million times.

[@Teluric2]

So people posting issues about mac are paid by MS?

[@kevingw5379]

@@Teluric2 Windows is broken and it's becoming worse by the day, obviously mac is not perfect but it's so much better. If you could use mac os for a week you wouldn't need to post a comment like that, you would see for yourself which is better.

[@cherrypop1685]

​@Teluric2 Windows is... bad. To say the least... The problem is they have a majority market share and with that not much incentive to optimize. Sure, it is much easier to use Windows over Mac (things like having multiple windows open, file formatting, and if your a gamer the fact you can work on your own PC.) But, overall it's just terrible. Personally I have hopped back over to Lonux after a 13 year hiatus. Turns out you don't have to be dependent on a 80% market share company. And before your wondering... no I don't have to use the command line. There are distros with a desktop environment. Sure it takes a tiny bit of tweaking but, after installing Wine I can't say I can tell that I am not using Windows... well besides not getting bombarded by Microsoft software. Mint is the personal version of Linux I use but, Kubuntu or Ubuntu could also be options. Do note you will need to download a distro off the web but some even have virtual machine for you to try them with! Oh and if anyone tells you to use Arch... don't. 😊

[@kevingw5379]

@@cherrypop1685 Thanx a lot for that recommendation, windows has actually gotten worse over the years and made the user experience horrible. I will try Linux when microsoft stop supporting windows 10 because at the moment my desktop can't meet windows 11 requirements for upgrade. Meanwhile I'm more than happy and quite comfortable on Mac, I've gotten used to it and I don't miss the constant interruptions and ads of windows. And oh yeah, and in windows things break all the time especially after updates, I certainly don't miss that.

[@vivek_v]

"Crappy build quality of Windows laptops" As I look at my shelf full of 2011 MBPs with dying GPUs. Let's also pretend like butterfly keyboards didn't exist.

[@xrayusg24]

I have hands on of my friend's laptop; fujitsu uh-X and it is beautiful light laptop of hard 900 gms and half the price of macbook of same configuration with same amount of SSD and double RAM. I am using Macbook M1 2021; but even Fujitsu was absolutely nice product to handle.

[@rebeccaw9656]

Also left Windows for an M1 Mac… but still use Windows apps on my Mac because outside the US, University and business is all Microsoft 365 based in my country (Australia). OneDrive is just iCloud for Windows, your wife will likely use it. And Bing - you can turn off the junk news and advertising, but it’s useful because Bing is Chat-GPT 4 (Microsoft bought major shares in it) and Dalle E! And Copilot. And Edge is so much better on Mac’s than Safari and Chrome, and being Chromium based, you have all the same benefits as chrome. Just turn off the shit news and advertising in settings…

[@TheLjohnfoxx]

This is just an apple fanboi hating Windows, most of this rant was just garbage. A total fresh install of Windows 10 or 11, takes about half an hour.

[@lucaphilfranze6922]

Glad you didn’t find out windows laptops run 40 min. max on battery. At this point they’re just glorified desktop pcs

[@mengshun]

"glorified desktop pcs" EXACTLY. Intel has turned laptops into modern desktops. They have completely lost their way.

[@StylishandGrateful]

Hmm interesting to hear your thoughts. After using Mac for 4 months I’m giving up and going back to windows, I don’t like it at all. It’s just inefficient for me and very difficult to use after years on a pc. The one drive on pc is the same as iCloud, if you don’t get on that you’d have issues as well. I can buy 4 computers for the price of one Mac.

[@schadlarry]

I switched to Apple in 2009. Took a week before I was sold. Zero bloatware, free OS updates, outstanding build quality. Bought their fastest 2017 iMac last year for $750 and it will last me another 4 years easy. I do still use Windows 7 on a VM for an old version of Quicken.

[@pietrascoelho5600]

Hahaha

[@networksdude]

Sounds like the bios went to a default setting. That could stop the drive booting.

[@jiyusuzuki]

If you want to use Windows, debloat it. Otherwise, it'll be painful. Chris Titus has a good tool for this. I have found out that GNU/Linux will be fine for most people doing office tasks on a computer. It's cleaner, but things like Microsoft Office won't work out of the box. Good Luck. Some of the distros I recommend for new users are Fedora, Debian, Linux Mint, Pop OS

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

Windows has no bloatware. What are you removing out of the box and wy would you 'eed any specific program for it??? I guess you do not have a normal Windows machine from Microsoft. Right?

[@messycode7738]

@@jeanbaptistelabelle Windows has so much bloatware, as well as spyware. and this isnt from OEM isntall, I mean pure windows from microsoft has bloatware and spyware built in. the script he is talking about removes most of it. In todays world, we shouldnt be using windows, it is too slow and too unsecured. the world is putting too much trust into this megacorp called microsoft.

[@troop73oo]

Not sure it’s fair to blame Windows for Dells poor build quality.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Dell isn't the issue, it's almost the same for all, either you pay for the specs and get horrible build quality or get mid specs and have food build quality, the only exception are those high end laptops that cost 3-4x the normal price, I would know I bought a few of those in my life, only HP and Acer have good build quality for fair price and decent specs, Asus, Razer, Alienware etc PCs are trash, they make food peripherals though.

[@delgonemma]

Been using both windows and macOS and all I can say is windows 11 has gotten so much better after updates and I see no problem with windows all those add can be disabled and it takes only 10 to 15 minutes to install a fresh windows on a pc …

[@clemenskotoku]

Yh i literally did installation on i3 11th gen today, i don't know why his own is taking 2 hours

[@hajjdawood]

@@clemenskotoku hes counting the time it takes to update everything, install drivers, etc etc

[@Jack_Rn]

My computing life changed forever in 2015 when I bought an iMac - wished I'd done it years earlier - There's some adjustment when finding your way around the mac os system so stick with it, but I promise you - I wouldn't use a windows machine again if you paid me. Never going back.