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In this video a Windows User is forced to use the new M1 Pro Macbook Pro for 3 weeks exclusively.

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[@jakubfurtak563]

Chrome tabs solution: It is called application expose, when using more than one chrome window, just swipe 4 fingers down on your MacBook touchpad, then you have only chrome windows shown on screen and every one is labeled below to easy navigate through them. It should work with many screens and desktops throughout macOS. You can assign button on your mouse to do this and also active corner of your monitor with mission control settings. Hope this helps, You can delete this comment after reading, I wanted your attention so I replied here.

[@FStoppers]

@@jakubfurtak563 thanks I’ll try

[@josephsofaer841]

Hi Lee, regarding your point at 8:50, perhaps I can help with a suggestion. If you go to System Preferences, and then Mission Control and select "Group windows by application," it will label the windows with their application logo/icon and make it easier to identify which window belongs to which application. Nonetheless, you have made valid points.

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

@@jakubfurtak563 Apple products "just work"... except in fact you must tweak them and be much more a geek expert than using Windows and Android if you want to do more than just my grand mother

[@Taitokynther]

@@FStoppers If you right click the application icon in the dock, it shows all your open windows in that application. The app expose discussed above is the other solution.

[@mztik]

Windows user using macOS: WTF is this? macOS user using Windows: WTF is this?

[@h0ust0nwehaveapr0blem]

MacOS user using MacOS: WTF is this?

[@FoodTechLife]

What's funny is expecting Premiere to be crash free in any operating system.

[@ChristianrnstrupRasmussen]

Exactly!

[@eddiemin4312]

Hahaha

[@TheBlackManMythLegend]

lol

[@cheddar07]

Haha, this hits home. Premier is a Giant pile, They keep adding things but cannot fix the damn random crashes. I have used it on windows and MacOS and crashes just as much on both.

[@JoachimPersonalAccount]

Exposed

[@ZombieMagnum]

It is unbelievable how calm he talks about these things. I would explode.

[@vanievors2476]

troubles with basic stuff is crazy!

[@MorningNapalm]

Years of frustration tolerance was built up from using Windows for decades :D Believe me, I use both every week, almost every day, and each has strengths and weaknesses, but Windows annoys me far more.

[@CTimmerman]

@@MorningNapalm How does Windows annoy you? By not playing the first two seconds of audio after being silent for 8 seconds on Bluetooth or jack, easily testable using the volume slider?

[@MorningNapalm]

@@CTimmerman LOL, WHAT? Hahahahaha. That came out of the blue. No, Windows annoys me by being deliberately different and poorly compatible with every other O/S, by being generally of poor quality, by maintaining 17 layers of old, deprecated APIs, by giving us only a 2-pixel border to resize windows with, even on 4k monitors with multiple-thousand DPI mice, and on and on and on and on and on. It is just a steaming pile, which I trust only for playing games on. This is not to say that other O/Ss are perfect, but Windows is, was and will likely always be on the bottom of the pile, by some margin.

[@CTimmerman]

​@@MorningNapalm Even though my Windows 10 weather info is in F instead of the C it's set to, it didn't require the command line after updating like my Ubuntu the past years and my colleague's MacOS today. Windows has generations of options whereas MacOS requires third party programs and GNU keeps reinventing the wheel. Still, Windows is very slow at accessing file, but Ubuntu also missed audio when waking the audio jack after idling for seconds. At least Windows just works and doesn't cover notification icons with random menu entries. Also, MacOS is the intentionally different one; it's even Apple's slogan. GNU hobbyists just like to copy MacOS at the moment.

[@brockdawkins4290]

Stumbled on this series. You did a great job holding back your bias. Almost every single thing you said is spot on about problems with Mac.

[@teresmajor7956]

I agree with almost everything you said. However, when it comes to Adobe performance, as a designer I can tell Adobe makes the worst softwares in terms of size and optimisation so I wouldn't just blame the computer. Love this series though!

[@ooblagon6830]

i fucking hate adobe

[@felcynchannel840]

@@ooblagon6830 they should just make their software like $700 for students. Even tho that’s extremely pricy. I would rather do that than sale my body for adobe suit

[@felcynchannel840]

@@cameronmcgehee You miscalculated my friend it's $255 for 8 months. 8 Months times 30$ is around $255 give or take tax. 4 Yearly plans would be 48 months * 29.99 equaling 1,439.52.

[@felcynchannel840]

@@cameronmcgehee sure you don't want the $700? lol

[@cameronmcgehee]

@@felcynchannel840 Oh stupid mistake, that would be for $30 a year not month. I am tired today...

[@RedBearAK]

2:20 - Drag and drop onto windows brought up by hovering over Dock icons: The secret is to wait until the blue highlight around the entire Premiere window disappears, then drop the item. If there were two Premiere windows it would be much more obvious what is happening. It’s subtle when there is only one window, but if you continue hovering for a couple more seconds over the Premiere window you should see it expand slightly larger and it will no longer have a blue border around the entire window. In other words you’re dropping the file at the stage when the Finder is asking you which window to bring into focus as the drop target. It literally just takes about two additional seconds of hovering. I know, it’s confusing because there is only one window so the choice should be obvious. But the drop simply won’t work until you let it “select” the window.

[@hanes2]

He should also learn what app-expose is, at least enable it.

[@SkyLee91]

OMG, why?!

[@crwhhx]

@@hanes2 I honest do not understand why he is still not using expose after 3 weeks. Dock is not for switching between open instances of apps like Windows task bar is...

[@crwhhx]

Also at time stamp 11:53, I do not understand why he had to use the menu bar on the left monitor, not just use the one on the right...

[@DuyLeNguyen]

@@crwhhx why would the menu bar behave differently depending on which screen it's on?

[@zaperovski]

I laughed so hard my stomach hurt! I went through similar and a bunch of other issues with my M1 McBook Air... In the end I came to the same conclusion as you. I work on a Windows PC and when I travel I use a Mac. Fortunately or unfortunately, I don't travel often. Thank you for this video :)

[@soonerborn9073]

Yep, that's the best case scenario. Traveling with a macbook is amazing because of the battery life. For daily work, hell no, and anyone who says they do use a mac daily don't really do any actual work because as we all know video editing is NOT real work

[@rogermichto6359]

yeah they suck for daily work, even for travel i couldnt

[@AndreaIT85]

I've been a Mac user for years but I also kept using a desktop Windows computer alongside my macbook pro. When I first bought a Mac I was amazed how much better than Windows was (at the time there was Windows Xp or Vista version which I hated so much). But time has passed and I think Mac OS progressed very little if not at all, while Windows improved dramatically. Now I still use a Mac because I love the overall experience, but Windows is way better in usability now.

[@kennedy2tim]

For the issue with dragging and dropping into Premier: I noticed the first time that the Premier window was still highlighted (had a blue halo). This means you’re in window selection mode. Wait a little longer and it will “settle” and the halo will go away. Then you’ll be able to drop it. You can also command-tab to Premier while you have files grabbed with a mouse cursor and just drop them in. Not seeing these in the first couple dozen comments, so hoping it they get through and are helpful.

[@x340x]

exactly this!

[@21N13]

Great tips!

[@ChristoferKarlsson]

To speed up the process you can also press spacebar instead of waiting. Drag the file to the app icon > press spacebar (skipping the pause) > when the correct window is highlighted, press spacebar again. With that said, command-tabbing will in most cases be the faster solution.

[@hm-andrew]

I don't know if this works in Premiere, but in other applications, you can just drag the file and release it on the app icon in the dock.

[@TheMotionware]

Exactly

[@ericanderson1753]

This is an excellent series. But it seems really clear - you should stick with Windows. First, because you don’t edit with Resolve or Final Cut. Second, because you don’t like MacOS. It seems like you’re encountering the same thing as people who try to make iPad their only computer - they try to recreate the experience they’re accustomed to on the new device/software. But if you’re open to switch, the idea is to do things differently, not imitate the old way in the new system.

[@robertleidner9703]

Thank you! This^^^^ just a rant that Mac OS is not windows is such stupid content.

[@mateuszkozio2089]

Had the same thought. It's like becoming a vegetarian, and making a video complaining how difficult is it to recreate exactly the same food that you are used to cooking. Or trying to play rugby the same way as football :-) It will not work and you will be frustrated. I'm quite sure that Mac users would have a very similar experience trying to recreate workflow on windows.

[@khoifoto]

I think this is the MOST click bait vid ever to fuel on Mac vs Windows topic.

[@alvareo92]

@@khoifoto it’s really not clickbait. You can clearly see the guy on the video was actually forced to do this and really did not want or feel like adapting his workflow to another way of working, constantly trying to replicate the experience just with Command keys instead of Control, lol

[@FenrirTheGray]

I disagree with both of you. An OS should strive to improve with every iterration. MacOS in this sense hasn't advanced to the required level. I've been running MacOS on my work laptops and Windows + Linux on my home desktops for years and years. Out of 3 options only Linux handles this correctly. Multitasking is something that is one of the focus points of business oriented machines such as MacBooks and iMacs. And that is one point where MacOS is the weakest. Its UI is horribly clunky and slows down any real power user extremely. What is the solution? Have both layouts ( 1 - TopBar + Dock or 2 - Taskbar ) as a selectable option for a user to choose. That is something even some Linux distros (I think Zorin OS is the best example) gave as an option to their users. But Apple and Microsoft are stuck in their ways and won't budge, because that is something that every big company does. They make a decision and even if it is the worst decision they ever made, they won't back down on it, because it will make them look weak. So stop with this "it's the way it is and that's the best" nonsense, allow users to have a choice and be done with it. Current system is shit.

[@ossiemoore941]

I daily drive macOS and love it. That said, I really appreciate you pointing out the problems you personally found. In particular, the issues with multiple monitors drives be bat-poop crazy. REALLY frustrating not being able to interact with an application on another monitor without first focusing something on that monitor. Hopefully, the truly fair public critiques will help make someone at Apple take notice. Thank you sir!

[@JackFate76]

If’s literally one click.

[@timester3030]

lol. you think apple is gonna solve your, problems? think again XD

[@brandonmenneke]

It's been interesting watching a windows user go through Mac, and I'm just want to say sometimes like you're trying to get Mac to do windows things that just don't make sense. Still great to see how differently people use each OS and even differently within a particular OS. At 11:56 when you are trying to send the timeline to export it didn't work because you didn't have the timeline selected in Premiere. This is not a window issue with Mac but just how Premiere works to tell it that you want to export a timeline. You can see in the video the Effect Controls panel is selected when you try to do the export and is indicated by the blue box around that panel. Switching between applications: Hold Command + Tab to switch between applications. Switching between windows in a an application: Hold Command + Tilde to switch between windows in same app. Switch between tabs in window: Hold Control + Tab. If you really want to use the dock to see what windows are open: Click and hold on app icon / Show All Windows. This will only show the windows of that application and show them on the respective screen that you have them on.

[@twentyone2d]

wow this is cool!

[@__Mr.White__]

Using keyboard shortcuts to switch easily between applications? That isn’t intuitive at all.

[@brandonmenneke]

@@__Mr.White__ You must not have ever used it. Windows has a very similar feature, just a different keys. It's faster than moving a mouse to click on the application. But everyone has their own preferred methods. Sounds like you need to try somethings out before you say what's a good workflow and what's not.

[@__Mr.White__]

@@brandonmenneke I already tried it. Just for 2 weeks to be honest. I couldn't longer stand it. As they guy in the video said, some things are just so mind blowingly stupid, that for some people it's not worth the hassle.

[@brandonmenneke]

@@__Mr.White__ Well if this is your first Mac then I wish you the best and hope you find something that works for you.

[@JorgeTamezPhoto]

About the "virtual desktops" you said it doesn't make sense when you have multiple real monitors... but Lee, when you have mutliple monitors, mission control doesn't bring all windows to one monitor making all thumbnails all super small like you said. It does that thumbnail thing to each individual monitor and with the windows that are in each corresponding monitor only. Unless, I'm not understanding what you're complaining about regarding mission control and multiple monitors. I agree that there are some things that Windows does much better and vice versa. I am not a fanboy and there are advantages to both. I own Mac laptops and custom builtmy own PC. I have a windows based storage server. but it seems like you're frustrating yourself by trying to make Mac OS look and behave 100% like Windows does.

[@m.m.6670]

Exactly - he's trying to make MacOS fit the Windows mould. It's like being American who's traveling to Europe and expecting that everyone they meet and the countries they visit act the American way.

[@braedenblack6116]

Agreed, I have 3 displays for my workflow, and love mission control with multiple desktops, to quickly switch apps. Have you tried system preferences notifications to get the alerts to auto disappear, or to not display? Also I agree you are trying to Mac macOS work like windows and that is going to be super frustrating. One of the thing macOS expects is that you will use gestures, either on a track pad or touch enabled mouse. Gestures speed up window switching, for example, I generally have five or so desktops on each of my 3 screens. I hover over a screen and and two finger swipe left or right tow switch desktops, or swipe up to see all desktops and jump to the one I want. It’s super quick but completely different than what I have to do on windows. One of the reason you might be getting freezing or other menu issues might be conflicts between all the apps that have been installed to make it work like windows. I’d uninstall some of them to see if the issues go away, just in case. System preferences auto updates, change to ask before updating. Hit me up if you have questions I might be able to help without the frustration of dealing with the internet.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

Like an American going to a foreign country expecting everyone to speak English to them 🤣

[@x340x]

“there are things that windows does better”…well not window handling, Windows is absolute trash when it comes to switching between windows or apps, dragging things between apps, opening files in apps etc. its absolutely horrible, and no one ever can convince me its not, im raging everyday when i stop working on my work macbook and go to my desktop windows pc for my freelance work.

[@toplist1230]

its not going to work when you try to make windows out of mac os. you mac os as the way just it is

[@coreylayton2258]

I think the struggle you have with MacOS is that most Windows users go into it the with the same preconceptions that all design elements or methods for completing tasks that you use in Windows is universal for all GUI OSes. You would face the same issues going into KDE or Gnome (in the case of Linux). Each GUI has different rules and features that influence the workflow. Sometimes I feel Windows users have the preconception that the Windows approach is the "standard" but in fact all operating systems approach user interactions differently and have their own hang ups. I generally approach any new operating system with the goal of learning how it works not how it mimics another OS.

[@dwalster7538]

This

[@ryanw8664]

Thank you

[@0netom]

Exactly my thoughts too! Very well said!

[@SkyLee91]

What is user friendly then? As a Windows user, I'm totally okay that close button appear at left corner instead of right. But it is very confusing when I want to find an application that I just minimized. I need to guess and find it from a dock. iOS definitely is more user friendly than macOS.

[@romansanders]

Absolutely true. I have used only Mac OS since 2005 and just this year had to use Windows for work for the first time. Everything about window management on Windows annoys me because to me it’s “wrong”. In reality it just doesn’t match my “standard” and some re-learning is required.

[@SoundMarsh]

I know this is an older video but, this reminds me of my transition to MacOS from windows. I am a power user and had used windows exclusively for a good 15 years, then work switched to Macs. I was a mess for about 6 month plus, I couldn't figure out how to do things I did everyday, and I was always finding a way to make my Mac look and work like windows. Eventually, I started to understand and become a Mac power user, when I stopped trying to do things the windows way. Now I am in the opposite camp, I sit at a windows machine trying to swipe my fingers in all directions trying to move windows around or flip screens or even just delete emails and get frustrated at the lack of what I would call quality of life gestures. If I had any advice it would try to go all in and not half way, the issues your having in each of these videos is pretty much just trying to do windows things on a Mac and not learning the Mac thing to do. I will say there is one thing I never let go of in my transition and that was the scroll direction of a mouse, I still just toggle that "natural" setting off. Keep it up, I enjoyed this little series.

[@GrayscaleRainbows]

I get exactly what you're saying!! I used to be a mac only user and now I'm hybrid between them and there's so many things where you just have to remember the operating systems are inherently different. Like right now I'm at the part in the video where he's frustrated by navigation between windows on the mac and I just want to grab him and be like DUDE! USE HOT CORNERS! USE GESTURES! USE MULTIPLE DESKTOPS YOU CAN SLIDE BETWEEN!! like the problems he's having could easily be solved with a hot corner to show mission control, a hot corner to show all open windows of a single app, and to learn about the command+tab feature and he'd be golden. But because Apple doesn't make those capabilities immediately obvious to a user who doesn't already know they exist he's stuck manually shuffling through all his apps and getting annoyed that it's not behaving like windowsos. When in reality it was never intended to function that way in the first place because it had other methods!

[@stillmattwest]

Even after just trying to get a good workflow going with an M1 Air I think finding the "Mac way" is the way to go. I was struggling with fullscreen apps until I realized that by "full screen" Apple really means "open this in a new desktop and fill it". What I'd really wanted to do was just to hide the dock and maximize the Window. A few settings changes later (and after installing Magnet and customizing some shortcuts) I was able to get things going the way I wanted.

[@SoundMarsh]

@@stillmattwest The mouse gestures are part of the mac way. So there are a couple that I use all day. In system preferences > Trackpad under More Gestures... All of those. Four Finger swipe Up to see all windows, or four finger down to see all windows of only the one application, and four fingers left and right to switch desktops... Those are a must to learn and use. I just keep all windows open all the time and learn how to flip between then easier. Another big one that is hidden and absolutely amazing, is three finger move a window. This allows you to put your pointer on the main bar of a window and with three fingers touching the track pad move it around (replaces click and drag). This is found in System Preferences > Accessibility > Pointer Options (on the left) > Trackpad Options > Enable Dragging (three finger drag)... Amazing Option.

[@stillmattwest]

@@SoundMarsh I'm still trying to get used to them on the laptop (making progress!) but the real issue is when I'm plugged in to an external monitor and my laptop is closed in its dock. At that point, you need keyboard shortcuts.

[@PvtAnonymous]

@@stillmattwest or get the Magic Trackpad 2 ;)

[@rayanuki]

A bit late with the conversation but as a dev who regularly switches between Mac and PC. I practiced using gestures on touchpad. I also set up hot corners. It made my life easier. FYI, those 3rd party apps that make your MacBook feel like Windows desktop chugs too much resources which will eventually beat up your device. These apps only prey on us, users that transitioned from PC. Either deal with what Apple gave you (and practice) or just go back to PC.

[@kevdernman]

lol that was bossy. You work for Apple?

[@Ozay1998]

Tbh it’s insane to make us „practice“. Is this the intuitive os we talk about ?

[@akin242002]

Tough decisions. Pros of Macbooks: - Apple ecosystem coordination. - Fast without heating due to M1 CPU - Great for iPhone app development. - Great for Java, Javascript, and Adobe development. - Great sound system for DJs. - Great image display. - 1080p camera for interviews or team meetings. Pros for PCs: - Usually less expensive. - Easier to customize. - More suited for logical minded people (Windows 7 and 10). - Easy use of Windows office apps - Easy for Powershell, Android, and .Net programmers. - Easy to use for Power BI graphs 📊. - Easy to use for Azure or GCP cloud services.

[@SylveonMujigae]

I am definitely a Mac fanboy (I admit it), and when I was issued a Windows laptop by my school, I have found myself swiping with three fingers left and right to change between desktops/windows, and it doesn’t work. I have to manually click the task view and choose the desktop I want to view.

[@rugambabenjamin6094]

@@SylveonMujigae First of all, desktops and windows are two different things, at least in Windows world. Second of all, three fingers are for swiping through windows. four fingers to swipe through desktops, if you've opened multiple desktops.

[@NIAtoolkit]

This series is exactly how macOS users feel when trying to use Windows

[@KS-wr8ub]

Yes! I grow grey hairs every time I’m forced to run anything in Windows. 😜

[@andrewsc7304]

@@KS-wr8ub it’s almost like you Mac people are from a different planet. To me at least 😃

[@makasete30]

@@andrewsc7304 honestly, we feel the same about you windows people too sometimes….

[@andrewsc7304]

@@makasete30 Fair enough! :D

[@onemorejulian]

No, it's different. The frustration from macOS users on Windows is usually because it's not made the same way that it is made in macOS. The frustration from Windows users on macOS is because you CAN NOT do the things. Tested all 3 (Windows, macOS, Linux) and I get the idea of simplicity for macOS, but just be honest it's not the best OS to do real/heavy work. Just for the average non techy/producer user.

[@alexnrs8700]

Lee.. like you I’m a long term windows “power” user. My ex (a high level programmer with IBM, is a Mac fan, despite (because of) her work predominantly on windows machines. Sharing this background so the following comes to you with perspective…. My ex got me working on Mac back in 2009. Like you I hated it for all the reasons you’ve note. HOWEVER…. slowly, over time I began gravitating to Mac for certain activities (I have an iMac on my desk, opposite my multi-monitor PC set up). Put simply, windows is as flaky with multi-monitor dongle set up (I run 4 connected direct to graphics card, plus 2 by USB to HDMI dongles). Anyway… here’s my take-away… as I’ve become used to the Mac was of doing things I now see tons of things I hate in Windows. Basically the strengths of one system make the flaws of the other insanely apparent, so much so that I now kinda hate both. And I now treat my computer systems like my camera systems (I use Canon for event, Fuji for lifestyle and Sony for video). Use Mac more and focus on its strengths and I think you’ll come to similar confusions. Whether you want to introduce that complexity at the cost of your leaning curve is, we’ll, up to you. For me the choice is Mac for personal and creative; windows for work and finance. Hope this helps you.

[@alvareo92]

I’ve used both systems a lot, I’ve owned Mac systems on and off and HEAVILY used Bootcamp on them because of specific software and some games. I agree with you, I’ve also come to hate both, they both have infuriating arbitrary limitations or unfixed bugs that have been there for years, but clearly both have their strengths. With windows it usually comes with compatibility, customisability, everything we already know. And Mac is just a more streamlined, stable user experience (until it’s not-good luck troubleshooting! But it’s still worth it imo, there’s nothing quite like Mac OS)

[@albertastudio8289]

Absolutely right both systems have issues and good things, Im an Mac user for graphic design and Photography and is very nice for this area but some other things is better Windows side, as you are a Windows heavy user there are some small things that you mentioned that are very easy to solved but the point is you are new to the system so you need to know more about it like the sleep monitor thing you can download Caffeine software and stop sleeping the Macbook permanently, and changing apps with cmd tab and lots of shortcuts but just for Mac is like a Mac user coming to Windows also the same thing.

[@descendency]

I think this is basically my story. I got a Mac for work. Hated it for a year. About 2 years after getting it (and having to give it up after a year of having - because I moved positions), I bought my own personal MBP. I have a nice Windows PC that I play games on - but if I want to do almost anything else, I grab my MBP. I even sold my old MBP for a new M1 Max one (probably a stupid waste of money... but sometimes I do things I shouldn't *shrugs*)

[@haberdasherrykr8886]

Lmao it's very odd and funny to see people growing to hate both environments Very diabolical lol

[@alexnrs8700]

@@haberdasherrykr8886 Totally! Quirk of our personalities I guess. Sub-conclusion I came to is (1) ignorance is bliss, and (2) stick with what you know. Comparison = Frustration.

[@rickbarrington]

I was a Windows guy who switched to Mac, despite hating the transition persisted for 6 years. Then my MacBook Pro died and I switched back to a vanilla Lenovo Windows. Man, it feels SO good.

[@mushrifahmed8107]

I haven't ever used Macs for a large enough time to face these problems, but some of these problems you mention are major head scratchers. A lot of these issues you point out are really valid and Apple should consider taking your feedback.

[@spark6023]

1. Mac is not a windows replacement. It does things differently. Get with it, or get out of it. 2. With all the add-on’s that you’ve installed, it makes sense it’s crashing all the time. I’ve used both, and I don’t see mine crash nearly as much.

[@seatslider]

Agreed. The add ons to make it behave like windows are likely causing it crash. Great to see all the annoyances. Some of your points Leigh are valid (file transfer speed ! That stunned me a decade ago, I made peace with it but you are right about that. Very likely the add ons are struggling with Monterey OS. Hang in there. Pye is right. Hopefully Adobe listen and make their software fly reliably on the M1

[@69elchupacabra69]

You seem to conveniently ignore the reason he installed add-ons: because MacOS UX is shit.

[@marcofazio1318]

There is definitely something true in your point of view. What I think is you're approch is wrong. Like when you learn another language you don't just translate word by word from your native language to the other but you need to change drastically your way of thinking and the structure of the sentence to have something that sounds "natural" and not google translate. My point is that, to get the best out of Mac OS you have to forget the way you are use to do things and learn the new ways. Making Mac os acting like windows will not work. Most of the things you are complaining are based on your habits with windows and the way you are used to work with that. My best advice would be embrace the Mac os system if you want to stick with it and change your habits, or just stick with Windows OS. P.S try keep pressing "command" and then press "TAB" multile times to swap between application windows. It's the easier way for me. You don't need to touch the mouse and the most recent app used are always the first.

[@alvareo92]

Also, Cmd+H to hide apps comes in really handy on Mac. I basically never minimised windows when i was a Mac user

[@ogidy001]

This is such a mac response. I have used both. Windows for a couple of decades and Mac for the last 4 years or so. There are some things which are just harder on the Mac and they should adopt those features. And give people the ability to customise some specific things. Windows users know that some things suck on Windows but Mac users struggle to have that discussion. His feelings most windows users that have moved to macs will appreciate.

[@marcofazio1318]

@@ogidy001 I'm a Mac and Windows user. I use Mac at home and windows at work. I constantly switch between the two and to get peace of mind you have to work differently when you work on each of them. My point is also valid in the opposite situation, Mac users that change to windows. My all point is that you cannot fight the OS logic. Of you try to make it work with your logic you lose. A better strategy is to understand the OS logic and get the best out of it.

[@cheddar07]

There are things that MacOS cannot do, that there is no reason why it is not a thing yet, other than pure stubbornness. For example having preview windows on the dock icon. I can right click to see other open instances of the same app but if I don't remember the name of the exact window I want I left to guess, Windows has been doing this since Win7. Another thing that has been a thing since Win7 and is on linux is snapping windows. How is this not a thing? It really should not be that hard especially seeing that there are 3rd party apps that do it. Another thing is file transfer speeds, why, why is it not a thing? Make the default how it is now but add the option to view it there is literally no real reason no not have it.

[@marcofazio1318]

@@cheddar07 We can do the same game of what is on Mac and why window cannot do that. Colour tag on finder. It's on Mac os since I can remember. I use it a lot to mark files I need to backup or transfer. Why window cannot do that? File Preview with space-bar. I use it 99% of the time instead of open any picture, audio or video player. It's the thing I miss most when I work on windows. I tried third party app and it kind of works but it's very lagging. On Mac it's instantaneous. There many things that window cannot do the same as Mac os and vice versa.

[@stillmattwest]

This was a great video. I've used Windows since the 3.1 days although I primarily use Ubuntu and other Linux distros now. I did just break down and pick up an M1 Macbook Air the other day and I spent all of today trying to establish a good workflow with it, so I feel your pain. Well, some of your pain. I'm a coder, not a creator, so the software I use is much less demanding. I'm also something of a minimalist when it comes to open applications so I never really have trouble finding where I left things. I also use a single ultrawide monitor rather than multiple monitors, so I can echo back that it's a better workflow for macOS (and Ubuntu, for that matter). I'm also used to using a dock and don't have a problem with it. Ultimately, I agree with your assessment of Macs. Hardware-wise, since the advent of the M1, they are 2-3 years ahead of the competition. OS-wise, they are 2-3 years behind. macOS is the clunkiest of the three major operating systems and it's been that way for a while now. Magnet is a great example. Sure, it works for window management, but that should absolutely be built into macOS. Ubuntu is a free operating system and they figured it out. Apple has no valid excuse for failing in that regard. There is a lot I like about the Air. Once I had it set up and working well I could really sit back and enjoy the superior hardware quality and the ridiculous amount of power those machines pack for their pricepoint. They compare well against laptops twice their price and all without even having a fan. That's amazing. I'll close by saying I get really jealous of all you KZbinrs having an excuse to buy a ton of different computers. I have no such excuse and it hurts me.

[@kakerusatsuki8791]

I hope we will be able to connect 2 external monitors to a macbook air after m2 is out.

[@TechieTard]

Become a content creator for 1 week....you're welcome!

[@stillmattwest]

@@TechieTard I'm sure it would take me more than one week just to make a decent practice video.

[@kevdernman]

I love this! Mac user without being a fan boy.

[@louisea308]

The MBA is crazy expensive here in the EU, even the M1 Base model. You'll probably end up at $1700-$2100 (higher end is m2, but there's not that much of a price difference between m1 and m2) if you don't want the base model.

[@Flip3rMAN]

This video sums up why i went back to Windows after having a macbook for 2 years.

[@TheCompyshop]

I randomly stumbled on your video. I kind of enjoyed seeing this perspective again. I was actually like you. I was a huge Windows/PC fanboy for most of my early young adult life. One day I found myself buying a Macbook off of someone because it was a really good deal and I planned on flipping it. After I took it home, I figured I'd mess with it and explore what was to me at the time, the "Unknown". I was mainly a Mac hater because it wouldn't play my games, and I watched a lot of youtube that was very much anti Apple. But after getting to use the Macbook and getting to know it better.... I kind of liked it. It was different sure. And there was a lot to learn. But I really liked the machine. It did a lot of things well. After I sold it I realized I wanted another one. Possibly to keep. After a few Macbook/Macbook Pro flips I ended up with a 27in iMac as my work computer. Fast forward 10 years, I still have that same 2011 iMac 27in. It still works great. But I still have my monster gaming PC at home. After 12 years of running both Windows and MacOS machine and using them daily I have to say... I like them both for various reasons. I should note though that I do think you're going about this the wrong way. You're trying to do things a specific way that Windows does them, and then getting a bit upset when MacOS does them a different way. This is similar to owning a Ford Fusion for many years, then getting upset that the new BMW 5 series sedan you're driving has the A/C buttons in a different location than in the Fusion. You just need to take the time to figure out the quirks instead of relying on muscle memory. Anyway, this video just kind of brought me back to when I went through this for the first time. It's good content!

[@alex.maxwell]

No, it’s similar to owning a Ford Fusion for many years, then getting upset that the new BMW 5 series sedan you’re driving does not have A/C buttons at all (AC turns on automatically just the way Tim Cook programmed it), lacks cruise control and has no ability to change tyres because they are welded to the car from the factory (for better “safety” and “integration”, of course). And the only way to change them is to replace your car or visit an Apple shop to replace it for 1/3 of the car’s initial price.

[@TheCompyshop]

@@alex.maxwell That’s an overblown and exaggeration of how an operating system works buddy. MacOS isn’t like that

[@wizcombo]

@@alex.maxwell alright chief relax

[@sandydeng5758]

Well said! I've used both Macs and PCs simultaneously for most of my life and they both have their pros and cons, quirks, differences. I love and hate them for different reasons but you can't expect one to be like the other.

[@nguyenducdat6579]

same here man, we need to learn to enjoy the best of both worlds

[@jeremiahkuehne2400]

This confirmed what we knew: don’t try to make macOS be Windows, and Adobe Premiere is still the worst editing software lol

[@niklasbl4030]

Wrong

[@lallen33]

After the last few years of being on a Mac I still have those frustrations. When I first started on Mac I would dual boot into Windows using Bootcamp and then I used Parallels but those ended up being more of a pain so I have been Mac only. I did install Ubar after watching your last video and in spite of its short cummings it has been welcome change to the Mac dock that I have always hated. If it causes issues in the future I may have to go back but for now I am happier with it. As an app dev I am forced to use Mac for developing iOs apps.

[@darrenrowley5646]

Have to agree with most of this content. I’ve been using macs since the first ever made. Back when I used a g3 power Mac and G4, Mac OS upto 10 was super easy moving files around and felt intuitive and every time they updated the Mac OS it just got worse in navigating for files. Yes things have massively improved in reliability but it’s the file management that is important to most users as that’s the biggest head ache you don’t want. Dongles are a real pain especially for myself being a photographer so good they have brought back the micro sd slot back. But there are two sides to every coin and pcs do things I hate to and I find them more complicated in a lot of ways. I think apple should listen to your videos as even as a Mac user we have the same issues too I just wish they would listen and change those simple things that you love on your pc and be able to do that to on a Mac. I guess it’s the same with all tech there’s never a perfect one as one tv may have better features where as another has better quality screen or build quality. It drives me insane reading reviews and choosing tech because there’s always a downside and upside and rarely one piece of tech to rule them all and it being an easy choice when buying something. The biggest thing I loved with older OS was the ability to colour code files which highlighted the whole strip of a file, which you still can do but it’s just a little dot which dosnt feel the same to me.

[@adolesquivel]

I"m not sure this is the right approach: learning a new OS trying to make it fit the way your old OS works. I understand the desire to move to a new OS without too much trouble (trying to do everything the same way) however in trying to do so you may miss out on some cool features. I liked your review in general because that is what is a natural impulse when moving to a new OS. thanks for sharing

[@shehab1414]

EXACTLY

[@mickyjamesalvin8578]

Try windows and say this again

[@heynicetomeetyou]

Linux users don't agree

[@Ben-rz9cf]

@@mickyjamesalvin8578 as someone who uses both, i prefer mac for creative work.

[@BryanRuby]

I'm OS neutral and try to see the best in each platform...but to be honest macOS feel much more like old school 1990's Unix than something modern with "cool features". Windows and Linux has evolved over time at a much faster rate than macOS. It's like macOS went out of it's way not to adopt new features because Windows and Linux got there first.

[@MusicmanStephan]

You need to go to mission control and uncheck displays have separate spaces. This eliminates the need to click the display before interacting with the window on that display in most cases. And great videos. Exactly my experience when switching to Mac after years of using and building PCs. I don’t regret the switch when I try to go back to windows.

[@FStoppers]

Tried that. But when you do a full screen on video it blacks out the second monitor

[@franciscoxc]

@@FStoppers but each monitor has its own menu bar…

[@BrianMWPG]

@@FStoppers yeah, but as you mention with multiple screens, why Full Screen any app - expand to the full size of one screen like you talk about in an earlier video (option-click on green button) this will make the menu behaviour more consistent and obvious - only the active application will show in the menu bar. (although it will only then have the menubar on one of the screens - which may be annoying for some people as well) "Displays as different Spaces" is good if you only use a single screen, but I find inconsistencies when trying to use 2+ screens with spaces. I go way back as a Mac user - over 25 years - Making an app fullscreen didn't use to black out the 2nd screen, was really annoying when they started doing that (can't remember which version for sure - maybe around MacOS Lion in 2011) For sure one thing that I don't like. One more trick with multiple apps or windows open especially on multiple screens - you can "Command-Click" on inactive windows or buttons/controls to send the click or drag through to the background app without activating it. (you can drag windows to reposition them this way, as well as playing or pausing videos and more). You can also scroll background windows with the cursor over them using the trackpad (or scroll wheel). There used to be some 3rd party apps that would give a more Unix like behaviour of whatever the cursor is over, becomes the active app, not sure if they still are possible. Windows is "window centric" in UI philosophy, each window is a separate process. macOS is "Application centric" so the dock & menu bar shows the current active app, and the Window menu always shows a list of all open windows for that app. (or right-click/click & hold on the dock icon to also show a list of all open windows for that particular app). for MacOS you command-tab to switch between apps, and other shortcuts (usually command-`) to switch between windows within an app. There are advantages and disadvantages of both philosophies. Windows 10 showing only the active windows in the start bar on each screen is a huge improvement over earlier windows, something new I learned watching your videos. One advantage to the dock is once it is setup the way you want, the position of the icons remain the same (at least on the left side of the dock) so no hunting around through a bunch of icons in the bottom - I find myself in windows using alt-tab more than the start bar - although in MacOS I don't use the dock all that often - either command-tab or click on window. Check your System Preferences -> Trackpad -> More Gestures - you may find "App Expose" useful to be turned on if it isn't already. - This will show only the windows from the active app, instead of all apps. You don't mention it in this video, but Activity Monitor shows disk & network traffic speeds if you haven't seen that from any one else (There are some UI changes to make it more useful - View Menu -> Update Frequency to 1 second, and in the Disk & Network windows, change the graph to show Data instead of IO & Packets) - that is one area Windows improved was to be able to show the actual copy speeds of file copies (I think that was added in Vista). There are also 3rd party utilities like iStat Menus, and probably more (I used to use a utility called NetStatInDock early in MacOS X - but it was abandoned) Sorry this got kind of long.

[@nobody-u-know]

The idea that displays have their separate spaces, and that this concept is a default behavior is very troubling to my windows mindset. Why on earth would a display have it's own space, and what is a space anyway? This makes no sense to a Windows user.

[@omegamit6zeichen]

@@FStoppers dont you have a seperate task bar for file-> something on each monitor? So going to the other monitor is not "intended" use?

[@dank6283]

Very good unbiased review! Was really fun to watch. Keep up the good work 👌🏻

[@edwardlowe]

Thank you so much for making these videos. I am so close to giving the Mac a try. Yet, I know it will drive me crazy. And you have just saved me from this madness!!

[@sharedscene]

System Preferences, Notifications, choose "Banners", "None", or disable "Allow Notifications" all together control/right click app on Dock, Options, "Assign To...", app will always open in that Desktop/Space never Dock for app switching, CMD+TAB System Preferences, Mission Control, disable "Automatically rearrange Spaces" System Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts, Mission Control, assign or use shortcut for "Application windows", or in Mouse/Trackpad preferences assign a shortcut to App Exposé (Exposé is like a Mission Control for windows of the foreground application) CMD+~, switch between windows of the foreground app CTL+TAB, switch between tabs of the foreground app useful when app windows are in different Desktops/Spaces

[@csells99]

After 20+ years as a Windows user (I started with Win3.1), it took me three months to really get to like macOS. Now I love it and only use Windows for gaming.

[@dima10656]

What did you struggle with the most?

[@man-bagdammit2297]

Exactly my experience, except I don't game anymore.

[@shining359]

​@@dima10656 for me was: 1) move windows with shortcuts/dragging to the side (you can solve it with magnet app) 2) don't have file path on finder (it's not a default function but you can enable it) 3) preview doesn't move to the next photo if you press arrow key. 4) can't drag and drop selected text on browser 5) microsoft office has bugs with tables (sometimes a withe line appear near the edge of colored cells, sometimes one edge is thicker...) but i will never go to windows again

[@DNdavidsonsnation]

@@shining359 don't use preview, just press "space bar" on the picture/video you want to quicklook then press arrow to move to next picture (work better in list view) press space bar again to quit, drag and drop selected text on browser work (firefox) not sure why it doesn't work for you.. never used Microsoft office can't help with that one.

[@shining359]

@@DNdavidsonsnation thank you, i know it 😉 "Once you go mac you never come back"

[@zach7269]

The multiple monitor problem with MacOS is why I switched to one 32” curved. All your points are spot on. If there was the same market for making Mac apps like there is for iOS, I think these problems would be resolved rather quickly

[@soonerborn9073]

Yeah, that means that things are so poorly implemented you had to change out hardware. That's not okay.

[@anthonyp22]

I really enjoyed this video comparison. I am a long time user of both Windows and Mac. The struggle is real. I constantly jump back and forth due to one OS being better at something then the other. The ecosystem is a big factor. I was issued an iPhone for work. I bought an iPad for work and certain apps that are only available for iOS. Keep the vids coming.

[@Soda_Lemoon]

Pye is right: Windows as a desktop, Mac as a portable. You get the best from both worlds.

[@Patrick-jj5nh]

my setup too , if for whatever reason i need to use either for a project i can cover it

[@murtadha96]

Exactly!

[@tuckertech]

Yup. Its what I got.

[@Aphex083]

This. Words of wisdom

[@Fredjikrang]

I used a Mac for most of my life, but switched to Windows a while ago. Part of the reason was that for work I use a lot of programs that are only available on Windows, so I was having to run Windows anyway. The other reason was that it seemed like Apple stopped making any real updates to Mac OS. I can't remember the last time they have shown off a new version that had a feature I thought was useful. They sure do spend a lot of time reskinning it though! I really hope that Apple will have their Mac team sit down and go over the usability and productivity portions of Mac OS seriously. The dock came out over a decade ago and they haven't made any substantial updates to it since! It is hard to believe that no one at Apple has realized how antiquated it is.

[@AndreaIT85]

I completely agree with you. The sentence "it seemed like Apple stopped making any real updates to Mac OS" says it all. At the same time, Windows improved a lot in usability over the years.

[@bradnelson3595]

I've got an iPad Pro, iPhone, Apple Pencil...I'm not a complete curmudgeon. I don't do video editing (I'm print oriented) so the 2011 27" iMac (with dual monitors, SSD, scads of memory, and a CalDigit dock) gets the job done. And because I don't need or want to rent software, I'm still in Mavericks using CS4 apps. But I do keep my eye on the newer operating systems and have booted often into High Sierra. But at the end of the day - other than the reskinning and blending iOS into the MacOS - what you said should be chiseled in marble: "it seemed like Apple stopped making any real updates to Mac OS." I love playing around with the latest and greatest technology. But other than software compatibility, I see little reason to use the snazziest new MacOS because it's not fundamentally better. The Dock is a perfect example. It hasn't been significantly improved, almost from day one. And I think this gentleman at Fstoppers has pointed out just how fundamentally flawed the Dock is. And, yes, the "click on window first in order to do anything" is nut-driving for me as well. Nothing said in this presentation offended me as a Mac user since the late 80's. I wish Apple would employ him on their UI team.

[@logaandm]

Finder is even worse. A file management interface that most of the world gave up on in the 1990's. Every time I think I could switch to MacOS, using Finder to manage files on the network reminds that isn't possible. Really, it's Xtree vs. Midnight Commander all over again.

[@SpaceChicken]

@@logaandm …Huh? I manage files on my NAS all the time, unless that’s not the kind of thing you’re talking about.

[@Vageta1999]

@@AndreaIT85 you say that like windows ten didn’t also not get updated for almost 5+ years

[@RootsMusicHawaii]

Super helpful video as I'm in the process of switching from Windows to using Mac Os for the first time in my life. Thank you!

[@businessaccount685]

Very informative I love this video. I'm done watching your other videos regarding this.

[@mrwriter86]

I’m enjoying this experiment. As a Mac user for about ten years I both love and hate the MacBook at the same time. You’re absolutely right when it comes to Adobe Premiere, in fact, it’s not just with Premiere, it’s with almost all of the Adobe lineup. I’ve come to the conclusion that Adobe is stuck in its old ways, and when presented with hardware that could help to make their software the best in class, they just fall short. Every. Single. Time. How can Apple’s Final Cut run so well when Adobe’s platform can’t? Adobe, in my opinion, just doesn’t have what it takes to write good code. I’ve experienced the same crashes as you. The whole system software grinds to a halt. It’s very, very rare that the system does this on its own, as it only seems to happen when I have Premiere or Lightroom open. They simply suck. Anyway, it’s come as no surprise to me that you’re experiencing poor performance with Premiere. They should be embarrassed to put out bad software time and time again. Please don’t confuse my views as defending the MacBook, I get as equally frustrated with some things but at the same time I love it for other reasons. Adobe is just the worst.

[@WizzRacing]

I loathe Adobe Premiere. As there is no way they optimized that for Macs... And their plugins are shit....I had to switch...Final Cut Pro....As the plugins work every time. And every 3rd party plugin pack I bought. They are optimized for use in Final Cut and they work perfect. I would add. Final Cut upgrades are free. You pay the $400.00 US once and that is it...Same for Logic Pro....None of this pay every year subscription shit. And try to install Adobe on a new PC. I dare you..They will make you walk on fire. To prove you're not boot legging it... I wonder if he even used the migration tool from Windows to Mac....It sure would have been faster... And the Terminal window on MAcs is so powerful. I suggest he learn to use it. As command line drive is the way to fix lots of issues. Without buying any 3rd party applications. As he paid to see his transfer speeds. It's Fking free. If you understand Unix\Linux terminal... As I been a Windows User for 35 years. As an IT engineer. I just been using a Mac Mini to learn the system 2 months ago. And it's a powerful machine. If you spend time learning new things everyday. As in the Time Machine auto backups were eating up huge chunks of storage. And everybody said buy Clean My Mac..I used the terminal window to delete those snap shots. Then unchecked Auto Backup in Time Machine. Problem solved.

[@jeremysaklad6703]

@@WizzRacing Neither Clean My Mac nor Terminal is the right way to reduce the number of Time Machine snapshots. You should do that by changing Time Machine’s settings to make fewer snapshots in the first place, which can be done using the tmutil CLI. That being said, I wouldn’t do that. Time Machine uses APFS snapshots, which are basically designed to utilize any free space you have. They automatically get removed if more space is needed, which is why the OS will often fold that into “Free” space. Think of it like caching files in RAM: it technically means there is less free RAM, but anything that needs the extra memory will just kick out the files.

[@pedropulido4570]

Lee : "it's enfuriating! Makes me mad! How do people not complain about these features? It's a mess" also Lee : "so I've decided to keep this MacBook..." 😂😂

[@Palshoej]

Well it like hopping into a Race car, and starting complaing that it do not work like a Prius. Some find the PC intuitive and logical, other do find the Mac more intuitiv and logical. Use what is up to your liking, and stop this drama.

[@descendency]

I'm willing to bet in the next 5 years, he uses his MBP almost exclusively. It's crazy how many people I know that love these machines (even after hating them initially) a few years later.

[@haberdasherrykr8886]

Has it crossed anyone's mind here that it's just more content for future

[@jalofanclub]

@@psmontte I have the new MacBook Pro but there are a handful of good Windows laptops out there.

[@musiccreation1198]

​@@Palshoej Amen. Windows vs Mac...really? 2001 wants it drama back.

[@nicolasmeurillon2330]

Hi, there. Congrats on trying this. I used windows and built my PCs for many years, until I switched to Macs completely starting 2012. I love the hardware and love the software, but Mac Os used without third party softwares to improve it, it can be quite frustrating. The multiple display features is still a nightmare and the finder is just a mess. But still, even with that, I can't go back to windows without feeling sick. To improve my mac experience, I use Pathfinder to replace finder. It save me so much time with queue copy. And by the way, cut-paste file can be done more easily (even on finder), just drag & drop and move the file to where you want to put it. If you drop your file to another hard-drive, it will copy. If you drop it on the same disk, it will move it. If you want to move (cut/paste) your file for sure, just drag & drop the file wherever you want and holding alt key before. Another third party i'm using is Hyperdock, in order to see different windows of the same app. Hope it can help. Mac Os is to me clearly the best computer OS (I'm industrial designer), but still, it's far from perfect (multiple displays is a mess, for example and you should always wait 1 or 2 versions of Mac Os, rather than directly jump to the last version, or suffer many annoying bugs). But still, to my experience, Mac Os goes far & beyond windows UX and UI. At least, so far. Your version of Mac Os might be the last one available when you did the video, so you got tons of bugs. That is so annoying, reason why I never jump to the last version.

[@nicolasmeurillon2330]

Oh, and I forgot that you can (like on windows) automatically hide the dock. I feel it's more convenient that way.

[@user-vl9pp6nv1k]

Thank you for your honesty and candid review.

[@JeremyNeish]

2:10 When dragging files to an app you don't need to do the extra step of dragging to the window after dragging to the dock. Just drag to the dock and let go, done (power tip: you can also drag to icons while holding down command-tab). The application is supposed to know what to do with that file and open it or add it to its library, whatever. Not all programs do this correctly and Adobe products are notorious for getting this wrong. But dragging video files to the dock icon of Premiere and letting go should do it. Power tip 2: If that doesn't work you can "force open" by holding down command-option just before you let go of the mouse button hovering over the icon. That'll force the app to try to open the file even if it thinks it doesn't recognize the file type. Sometimes this results in an error if the program really can't open the filetype or can't figure out the file type.

[@R3ality]

Thanks a lot for this series! Everyone else is talking about the battery, the screen, the price and other generic features aside performance which can easily be read from the product specification. But these kind of real-world usage scenarios and comparison which you have covered are rarely talked about. Such information is invaluable for making informed decisions on getting new tech or switching ecosystems. Well done on keeping your opinions objective and explaining the rationale. Thank you for going through with this and sharing your experiences!

[@btn237]

It’s not really real world usage if the person has only been using the platform for a month. If they’re a Windows user for life it could hardly be described as unbiased (especially as barely any positives mentioned!). Operating systems all have their quirks, your brain rewires itself to deal with them. Once you get used to Mac features Windows is equally infuriating, I could go on for hours about that (having used both regularly). A truly unbiased comparison would surely come from a regular user of both systems.

[@asdf5341]

@@btn237 I agree! I use both daily (actually started on Windows before moving to mostly Mac) and Windows is a nightmare!

[@supernova82]

@@asdf5341 I think Windows have become so much better. In fact I am facing basic issues in MAC which I have never faced in Windows.

[@prima6170]

After plugging in everything to my laptop (monitor, keyboard, etc.), and not taking it anywhere, I realize that I'm a desktop user. Having said that, I'm perplexed at why Apple users never seem to have issues. In 20 years, this is there first person who actually critiqued MBP. MBPS: _They just work._ But, apparently, they don't.

[@PurushaDesa]

That Mission Control issue you brought up about getting lost in a sea of indecipherable window previews might be ameliorated somewhat in macOS Ventura's headline feature, Stage Manager, which seems to do a better job of focussing in on a certain app or desktop grouping, while casting others off neatly to a little index on the side.

[@mequable]

I know this would get buried but thank you thank you so much for these videos. You have exactly the same perspective I have on almost every level and I don't consider myself a power Windows user. This is the second time in my life I have been seriously pondering switching OSs and once again I couldn't find a detailed video of all the issues and frustrations I will find with the apple OS, until now. This will greatly help with my choice.

[@simianinc]

I use windows at work but Mac at home. I don’t find it hard bouncing back and forth between the two. My mind just separates the peculiarities of each OS. A lot of premier users now use Divinci resolve. That may be something to consider.

[@iThnk2]

How about shortcuts, doesn’t mess it up your work flow?

[@alvareo92]

@@iThnk2 just muscle memory and training your brain to associate them to each OS-in other words, practice. I know I messed up my shortcuts when I used both but only because I used Mac 80% of the time

[@Naps56]

Maybe Apple doesn't want to immigrate Windows users to the Apple ecosystem ? Perhaps because then, its fanboys would become Hoi-Poloi?

[@21N13]

@@iThnk2 macOS has an absolute ton of shortcuts and you can add them yourself as well. There's also a native option to assign the command functionality to the control button, primarily added for users migrating from Windows or Linux.

[@iThnk2]

@@21N13 I resently got MacBook I did manage to solve few key layout problems with carabiner and new remapable kayboard. But no, shortcuts not that easily transferable as you think: Enter - not opening file but renaming it (stupid as F). Backspace doesn't go back in finder , not be able do shift select sequence in icon mode is ridiculous, refreshing page, minimize all windows, and on and on... There is a lot of different shortcut you can't chenge easily. Thankfully carabiner made life of switching betwen Windows and Mac back and forth less painful.

[@victorc777]

One of the main issues concerning the freezing, is that some apps are still not fully Arm compatible. This is not excusing the Mac, but there is a reason why these are still not perfectly fluid. One thing I have yet to experience on my Mac is a complete desktop lock out or BSOD. Sometimes an app may freeze up, but my Mac is still useable while that app gets its sh1t together in the background. In the last year of using my Intel Macbook and the new M1 Max Macbook, I can't remember a single time when I had to hold the power button to reset it, while both my Windows laptop and desktop have had to be force reset at least a dozen times. You mileage may vary, but I have been satisfied with how MacOS handles any software glitches.

[@ShaharAmin]

What about finder freezing? Finder should be fully compatible thoo

[@squagwag2808]

I think it could have been the dock application doing strange things. But it could be a finder problem. Just saying because I can’t remember the last time finder crashed on me.

[@octoslut]

had numerous bsod on m1 MacBook, instead of blue it was black screen lol and system restarted. m1 MacBooks didn't play nicely with big sur. new macOS version is way better and stable.

[@brentsta]

Been watching these waiting on my first macbook. Thanks for these videos

[@thechosenone7755]

** I just realized this video is over 6 months old. I hope by now you've figured all of this out, but in case there's anyone new reading this, let me try and help you. 1. You've been using a PC for decades so you're used to it. Now, you're leaning an entirely new operating system and you expect to be proficient at it in a few weeks. Give yourself a break and be patient. You not only have to learn a new operating system, you have to *unlearn* the old one. It takes time. 2. Most of the issues you're having can be solved with simply learning how the operating system works. Those videos your grandma watches are the same videos you'd watch if you were learning on a PC for the first time. For example, the cut & paste issue you're having was solved by learning what the shortcut is. The reason you can't cut and paste something like you can on Windows is so you don't move a file accidentally. The same goes for your multiple monitor issue. Did you know you can set up different desktops *for each monitor* you have? I *highly* suggest going onto the Apple website and simply read the full keyboard shortcut list. It will be eye opening. Conclusion: Switching from a PC to a Mac isn't like going from a convertible to a Jeep, it's like going from a car to a boat. You just need to learn the controls. Be patient; know that you're learning something new. I wish you all good things.

[@jonahwillis]

Thank you for this!

[@Muhammed.Yaseen]

Thanks

[@rickbarrington]

I actually switched to a Mac from Windows for 6 years. Then the Mac died and I went back to Windows. Oh man, it just is such a superior OS. Oh I am a tech savvy power user

[@marioserafimov6714]

@@rickbarrington you mean win being the superior system or macos?

[@geoken2]

I think this is an oversimplification. Of course there are always going to be things that are roughly equal, but just different. But there will also be things that are just objectively better. Windows management in windows is objectively better. You’re right in saying that it’s different, but it’s also better. Just one example, the alt+tab switcher in windows optionally allows you to include browser tabs in it. In other words, if your workflow involves mail.app, zoom, vscode, and 3 web apps (in their own tabs) all 6 of those appear in alt+tab in MRU order. Trying to work like this in macOS is both different ( like you said) but also objectively worse because the number of keystrokes and actions you need to take is way higher. And imagine if your web apps are spread across actual different browser instances. In windows, alt+tab until you get to that tab. In MacOS cmd+tab to your browser, CMD+~ to get to the other instance of that app, figure out if it’s faster to CTRL+tab or CTRL+shift+tab (because the safari tab switching isn’t MRU) and then potentially CTRL+ shift+tab multiple times. Then cmd+tab back to mail and hope that it didn’t go to the main mail window otherwise another cmd+~ to switch to the compose window. Even at a base level, the entire concept of needing to think whether you need to cmd+tab or cmd+~ is something that windows completely alleviates you of.

[@sindhusekar1]

😂 love your unfiltered reactions to the MacBook 💻.

[@NatJulianBelza]

Been a Windows user for almost my entire work life, like a decade and a half. I am a tech nerd, computer science, I build my own PCs, I like to do DIY solutions to help my productivity routines on Windows, etc... When I switch to Mac, Like Lee, the beginning was a lot of frustration. But then I realized I was expecting Mac OS to work exactly like Windows. Then the switch became a *transition*, which at least for me lasted almost a month. Of course, there were plus and minuses. I do miss things that I got accustomed with Windows. But the things that I gained with the switch greatly outweigh those bits. I can honestly say I am more productive after the switch to Mac than I was with Windows. I can focus on things that matter more, and less on things that have nothing to do with my routine. Free OS updates? Not bad. All I can say is that the whole experience with the MacOS is an enabler.

[@jgates]

Fair assessment. I've not experienced some of the lockup issues with my Macbook Air and iMac. Hopefully, that is just a software update. I've been a Mac user for quite a while and had been a Windows user (FanBoy) prior to that (my last name is Gates!). Working around some of the quirks is just something I've become used to. I hope your (and all of our) experiences get better with both OSs. I think it shouldn't be one is better than another but just a preference. Power on bro.

[@jeffmathew5857]

Hey! So my two cents on viewing multiple instances of an application on macOS. The three-finger swipe down while using any application actually brings up a mission control type view of all instances open of that particular application (plus shows the minimised instances in smaller tiles at the bottom as well). Additionally, if you mouse over any icon in the dock and do a three-finger swipe down when your cursor is over an icon, it will again bring up the same kind of mission control type view for that particular application. (I honestly have no idea how this would work with multiple monitors, never tried it). Personally, I've been using Ubuntu for my work primarily. I did get to use macOS for a couple of years recently and actually loved it . Felt like a great middle ground between Ubuntu and Windows, but then again I write code so we are naturally biased towards Unix based operating systems haha.

[@paolozago6123]

The absolute worst thing in macOS is the "mistery meat navigation" on the menus, where pressing "option" enables a whole different set of menu entries that you have no idea existed until you press the option button. So every time I have a new software or I need to do something in the finder, I just keep pressing option and releasing it to see what is changing.

[@arthurlaquieze7368]

wow i didnt know this thanks

[@paolozago6123]

@@arthurlaquieze7368 See? That's why it's bad :D

[@WilliamIsted]

You could reword this from “pressing option enables a whole different set of menu entries” to “pressing option shows you more options”. I think it’s pretty handy, the extra options are usually related to the original option it replaces as well so it’s not like they're just completely random

[@paolozago6123]

@@WilliamIsted That's all true, except you don't know that you can press "option" to reveal those options, that's the main issue. I just found about that by chance searching for something on the web, something trivial like how to cut/paste a file in macOS.

[@Seth_Arvila]

I made the switch a few years ago, and I too had many of the same frustrations. The key was just to keep at it, and forget what I knew either Windows. Eventually I found myself used to macOS. By adding all of the miscellaneous utilities to make it look like Windows, you really make the experience worse.

[@chiefrebelangel817]

I don't see a point in switching either way. I am personally windows user all my life. I'm comfortable in using it and i can do all of my work fast and efficient. Why waste time adjusting to new system when it doesn't bring progress in any way? This all stands if you are a mac user. Why switch to windows when there are no actual benefits like doing work faster and more efficient. At the end of the day, its two sides of the same coin.

[@alvareo92]

The takeaway is that last sentence, Mac really isn’t made to work smoothly with third-party utilities that try to replace basic aspects of the OS-that’s why that taskbar replacement constantly froze

[@tuankiettahuynh288]

@@chiefrebelangel817 in my case, it's because of the software. You can not develope iOS app on windows, or run C# stuff on MacOs. Maybe someone wanna use something Mac only like finalcut, or Windows only like some games. Or some hardware feature. There are a lot of reasons.

[@ashwinnarasimhan2729]

​@@chiefrebelangel817 Sometimes it comes down to specific hardware/software that you might want to use. I originally switched to a MacBook Pro in 2007 because it was just relatively rare to be able to get a well built Windows laptop that was also portable (thin Windows laptops were slow and powerful ones were heavy) and more recently I went from using just a laptop for everything to having a separate custom built Windows desktop and a MacBook Pro because I wanted to get into gaming and I've started preferring dedicated hardware vs virtual machines if I want to run Windows (and on future Apple Silicon Macs I can't really properly run Windows in a VM anyway so just easier to have a separate PC).

[@xd1str0y84]

Exactly. @Seth

[@briantinsley7864]

Nice follow up. I commented on your first video, and you were just reliving my life after switching from PC to Mac. I grew up on mainframes, got the first PC where you could chose DOS or CPM, and years later, ended up being responsible for supporting thousands of PC desktop and laptop users, up through Windows 7. I moved to Windows 10, but absent thunderbolt, it was build a new PC with Windows 11, or try an M1 Mac, so yes, I'm a windows guy. Cut and paste was the first crazy issue. Yup. Now I use both a 2020 M1 MacBook (basic) and an M1 Mini with 16/512, and my gaming keyboard with the cherry switches has a backspace key, and yes, there are still things that bug me, from a UI standpoint. I still won't rule out windows, but I forget I'm on a Mac now, and it's kind of like my phone, iPad, and Computer all in one environment, just as Apple planned it. Personally, I think their support is hit and miss, and maybe a bit more miss these days. The SOC performance is mind-blowing, and I'm on the 2020 model, so I beachball once in a while, but I'm on Monterey, and Rosetta gets in the way a bit, but to be able to do DAW recording, stream 4K, surf the web, do email and messages, and never see a strain on the CPU is very unwindows like. There's also a setting somewhere to fix all the stuff I complain about, but I've gotten used to it, and said goodbye to the registry for now.

[@sgtsalmon]

I don't know if you will read this, as it is an old video, but there is actually a native graphical preview for seeing which window you are clicking on. 1. Go to settings and under trackpad gestures enable app expose. It will be under more gestures 2. Perform this gesture while your mouse is over the icon to see your open windows for just that app. Also under mission control enable grouping by application. Hope this helps!

[@fabianmichael9457]

drag & drop is actually possible. You just have to wait a second for the target window to become active. It's a bit annoying

[@duaneshort186]

Is this not a "spring loading" option in accessibility that can be changed???

[@RogerMarket]

In the Mouse and Trackpad area of the System Preferences, you can either remove or change the length of the “spring-loading delay.” By the way, spring-loading is a great feature! As others have pointed out, though, you can hit the spacebar while hovering over a window or folder to MANUALLY force the Mac to select that particular window/folder, rather than waiting for it to spring open or messing with the length of the spring-loading delay. Just keep hitting the spacebar as you drill through the folders until you get to the one you want. When the blue outline is gone, let go of the mouse. The files will move. If you’re spring-loading into a Finder window, the folders will all spring shut (and if you used spring-loading to open Finder in the first place, the Finder window itself should spring shut). Then you can go back to whatever you were doing before you decided to move the files. You can also use Command + Tab to switch between apps quickly and then use Command + ~ to switch between windows within the active app, eliminating the need to use spring-loading, but of course you need to have the window already open to the folder you want. Or heck, use all of the above! I do. Every single day. No OS is perfect, but even macOS can be fantastically useful and snappy when you learn how it works. 😊

[@John7No]

editing in adobe premiere: this by itself is a recipe for frustration. Adobe still has not made a decent app for Mac. Many issues I saw was with Adobe. So ... if you , for whatever reason want to stay on Adobe, wait fro Adobe to make a decent application. It is not Mac's fault. The evidence that the difference in your experience comes from the app developer lies with Davinci. Regarding the restart just uncheck the autoupdates install. does Mac has some frustrated things, Sure , no doubt. I blame Apple for not having a thumbnail preview on the dock, or not having a simple indicator for what your copy-paste transfer speed is. And there are others as well. One thing I cannot blame Apple though is Adobe's poor developed apps. You might never be a MacOS guy, and that is fine.

[@clemcharo]

hey relax, breathe in, breathe out, everything is gonna be ok, apple is fine

[@John7No]

@@clemcharo i am not sure what your comment means, but I guess you mean I am a fanboy of Apple. which is by far correct if you had read my comment.

[@clemcharo]

@@John7No good boy ! 😃

[@kenorijnul]

@Fstoppers Not sure if you got this answer already but as it relates to revealing multiple windows in a single application, you’d need to use the app exposé and as long as it is turned on in the trackpad settings, the shortcut can be either a 3 or 4-finger swipe down. And I’m not sure if I missed it but which configuration of the M1 Pro MacBook Pro are you using?

[@brandonward3998]

My single best tip with a MacBook is the three finger swipe. When you have a full screen application you can swipe with three fingers and it will seamlessly move to another open application. Very slick and fast, no need to minimize nearly ever. Makes workflow very fast.

[@fingerstylefunkable]

I hear you loud and clear on the dock issues, particularly when it comes to data transfer. I’ve learned the hard way to just juggle the tb3 ports on my Mac with 1 for the dock/charging and non storage items and one for either my raid 5 backup or my sample libraries. I nuked a 4tb tb3 ssd earlier this year with an expensive tb3 dock and won’t trust it again for daisy chaining storage.

[@AlexPaluzzi]

It is insane how absolutely aligned we are on literally every single thing here.

[@Mako-se8uj]

I've been building gaming PC's since I was 13 years old, so I'm pretty embedded in the Windows ecosystem when it comes to a PC. That said, I exclusively use iPhones, iPads, and an Apple Watch on the daily for everything else. I work from home since 2020, and have been using my gaming PC for my day to day work. Nothing too heavy, but I generally will have Chrome running 24/7 with 20+ tabs open, in addition to Excel, Word, Powerpoint and a chat client I use for work (Microsoft Teams). Not super heavy duty stuff, but a lot of smaller/medium sized programs running all at the same time. My gaming PC handles all this with ease while pushing two 4K monitors. Unfortunately, a recent bad thunderstorm came though my area and I experienced a bad power surge which ended up taking my desktop out of commission. I panicked because of course I need a computer for work and given the fact I was recently promoted, I thought it'd be a bad look if my first week in the new position I was hamstrung by having to work on a crappy backup HP laptop I've had for a decade. I started looking at buying a new computer I could use in the meantime while I worked on getting my desktop back to life, and ended up landing on the new MacBook Air. Heard great things about the M1 chip and felt like it would be a safe bet on being able to run everything I need for work. So far I've been using the MacBook for about a week, and aside from the bummer of only being able to extend my display to just one of my 4K monitors without an expensive dock, I have to say I'm really really surprised how much I'm liking the experience. So much so, I'm considering just making this a permanent switch. There's still a couple of things I run into here and there that can be confusing, but overall I find I'm better able to multitask on the Mac, even with the fact one of my screens is the tiny 13" built in display, due to all the awesome trackpad gestures that allow me to quickly switch between applications I have running. That and the seamless integration between my phone, watch, and iPad is truly amazing. Never thought I'd see the day!

[@JMilMovies]

If you right click on the app icon on the apple dock, it will show you all the windows you have open for that app. It's fascinating how easily MacOS frustrates most Windows users. I went from only using Windows to the MacOS ecosystem and it was so easy. MacOS is an incredibly simple operating system. For your Premiere Pro example on multiple monitors, stop going from one monitor all the way to another to try and export your media. Your timeline / sequence is on the right monitor, so when you have it selected go to the top of THAT monitor and you will have the Premiere Pro menu options because you have a Premiere Pro window open on that monitor. You can clearly see the Premiere Pro menus (tool bar) available at the top of both monitors so there's no point in your sliding your mouse all the way over to the top left corner of the left most monitor when you can access the menu from the monitor that your timeline window is open in.

[@hotakutsuki]

I've been a windows user all my life, and I had to move to macOS due to my new job.... Afer a year, this guy has the exact words that I've been looking for to describe my transition exprience... Yes. Macs are awesome... But my real personal laptop, will still being a windows machine.

[@atomictyler]

it's because you're trying to use a mac like a windows machine. they're different and work different. if you start using the mac the way it's made to be used you'll be more annoyed with your windows laptop when you go back to it. I switched to a mac 4 years ago because I needed to for work (unix based was needed) and whenever I go back to my windows PC I get so frustrated that the things I can do with gestures and short cuts just do nothing in windows.

[@PhilGerb93]

@@atomictyler As someone that is thinking of moving to the Apple ecosystem, I can't believe how poorly designed macs are when you try to use then with multiple screens. How the hell can you be productive with only one screen? And the dock seems useless.

[@drowningin]

@@atomictyler that's nonsense. By use a mac like a mac you mean stop trying to do common sense things that make sense, and make the user experience better? Or you could... I don't know... Put useful features everyone expects into the OS... Linux does... BSD does... Windows does... Solaris does.... macOS...uSe It LiKe A mAc ReQuIred

[@supernova82]

@@atomictyler Nope it's because Apple can't fix the basic issues like working with dual monitor etc. There are so many people complaninng about it and it looks like Apple dosen't care. I am also facing audio issues in Google meet in all browsers.

[@imranyakub7653]

@@drowningin THANK YOU

[@CoderGuyMan]

Hi Lee. I loved your video, it was balanced and fair. I use both Mac and PC myself and there are definitely things I do on or the other but not both. I also relate completely with what you said being set in your ways and ignoring new features in Windows but after learning about new things in MacOS you want to see if you can do them in Windows now. Am a software developer and whenever a new version of Visual Studio / C# comes out, I ignore the new features and continue doing what I know and have always done. Recently I started getting into Python, and there were so many really cool features I liked I found myself immediately saying "Man, I wish I could do that in C#" and would go searching, and lo and behold would find out it was added in a previous version and I could actually do that in C# as well. One thing that has irritated me the most about the new M1 architecture though as been the fact I can no longer run a Windows VM, which means no more "One laptop to rule them all" when I travel, so I had to buy a Windows PC as well and now travel with both if I have to do Windows related things on the go (like Windows development or Blender). Thanks for the video. It will be interesting watching your progress in this experiment.

[@HighPowerXH]

For drag and drop files, you need to wait the blue box on the window disappears after hovering your mouse on the window for a second or so, or press space key to immediately select the window

[@benyoung2613]

I have had some similar experiences to yours. I used the M1 MacBook Air for half a year and switched back to the Surface Laptop 3. The trackpad of Surface Laptop 3 is great too. Gestures on the trackpad can also work efficiently. In my opinion, Surface Laptop 3 does a better job in daily office work, for example, managing files.

[@michaelkade5749]

As I moved to Mac and macOS, first thing I did: Buy a magazine about what to expect when moving from Windows to macOS. It is a professionally made magazine here in Germany and after reading I never thought about Windows. I’m also a photographer with similar Workflow. Don’t make a Windows Machine out of your Mac! Or stay with Windows, because you seem to have a short fuse…

[@MrEurybiades]

I love that you're having same issues as me. this is great and thank you for researching for me or giving me places to look. i am an Apple fan boy but my work software has kept me in Boot Camp up until now. MacOS is painful but hoping it will get easier. Really waiting on Autodesk to sort out a mac copy of Revit and my work life would be close to perfect.

[@halami2149]

2:16 Right there, it looks like you didn’t wait long enough for the premiere window to be actually active, you let go of the files while it was still in mission control. Using Command tab would help with this a lot, so you can switch to other apps really quick. Like alt tab in windows. Or, just keep your finder window a little smaller, it really doesn’t need to be that big

[@danielmee]

Yes, the problem of dragging files onto premier is caused by him windowfying his finder to be maximised and thinking like a PC by dragging the files onto the dock icon. The mac way is to just drag from the finder window (which is just smaller) onto the app window in the background.

[@ethanwasme4307]

@@danielmee these aren't issues you apple people should be living with, you guys are talking about this issue as if it's his fault 😂😂😂

[@smartmagis]

I've been on Mac since around OS Tiger in 2004/2005. Back in the dark ages when both Mac and Windows had some glaring issues (and really, I was coming off an atrocious PC and Windows 98 or XP at that time. Vista?) One thing I love about Macs is the power of the keyboard shortcuts. CMD+Tab and CMD+` (tilde) are obvious if you hate the dock or need to find apps/windows. Opening tabs, windows, closing tabs and windows are also super quick. CMD+Space for spotlight is still great. CMD+Option+Space for popping open a Finder Search window is also great. CMD+L has various functions in apps, including Music and Safari. Safari also has a nice CMD+Shift+L for the side tab. In Finder, you can cycle between the view modes using CMD+1/2/3/4 (icon, list, file tree, carousel). Navigating folders in Finder is also quick with CMD+Up or CMD+Down to enter and exit folders, super handy. Oh, and the Help menus are all searchable, which is great. And, helpfully, many of the shortcuts are displayed in the Toolbar menus, so it isn't too hard to figure out what you need to learn. Oh, and on the smaller laptop keyboard, Fn+Delete is the "erase-forward" command. And when you pair that with the trackpad gestures that are customizable, it's really possible to fly around tabs and windows and spaces and desktops. I've done this on multiple monitors, on a laptop on the go. I'm most comfortable on a desktop with my bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. I don't think Mac is AS usable only with a mouse. Certainly usable, but it'll be basic and slow. Mac doesn't loudly advertise all of these shortcuts as they prefer to market these as "simple to use machines". But these shortcuts have always been there and they're plenty solid and useful for those who want to use them. I think one MAJOR thing that Windows users have to learn on a Mac is how it treats Apps and windows as separate things. In this case, I actually think Minimizing windows can be super confusing and I never do it. Instead, I'd say CMD+H to hide a full app is your friend! Mac is at its best when you can keep things as neat and clean as possible, and they give you many different tools to keep the workspace neat and tidy, which works much better for me than Windows which, at the very least, doesn't discourage clutter, and maybe even enables clutter. I did use Windows 7 quite regularly at work -- pretty dull machines we were issued. Certainly nothing that would please this video's host either. Cheap Dell cubicle machines. Corporate crap. Still, I thought it was fine. Can't beat Excel on a Windows. But I did find myself having to use my mouse quite a bit more because I didn't find the shortcuts to be quite as comprehensive. Instead, right clicking was often the quick way to do things in lieu of a keyboard shortcut (thankfully, the right clicking/two finger clicking in Mac has also gotten much better over the last decade). For the most part, there were many equivalents, especially when typing or navigating around a word processor (e.g. CTRL or OPT or CMD deleting full words or full lines) or getting to the search/address bar in a browser, etc. I think I could get off the ground running in Windows quickly, too. And I'm glad they're working hard to make it better. MSFT really really needs to clean up its Settings/Preferences app -- whenever I have to help an older relative with their machines, I can tell it's cuz that thing still feels built for IT professionals, primarily. And Windows 10 had two different types of OS Preferences views of that app, one new and one legacy, and some things were on one but not the other. Nightmare!

[@KinChungE]

The SD card unplug notification is mainly due to the background indexing / thumbnail creation. Unlike Windows which is usually safe to unplug SD Card at any time, macOS keeps writing and writing and writing new files to your SD Card. If you unplug without ejecting, it will be way easier to corrupt the filesystem

[@mrbrandonoldham]

Loved your input and feedback. It’d be awesome to see you try and link up with MKBHD and compare workflows. Also one thing that has helped me use macOS regarding the dock - I get rid of all the app icons in the dock except launchpad and then any icons I see are ones that are open. To open apps I use launchpad and organize the apps how I want them.

[@orwellmushaikwa2591]

As a prospective mac user, I really appreciate this series. Though my main use case won't so much be video editing but coding and and some design work, this definitely brings some perspective to the ecosystem hailed to have the best laptops on the market. I'm not entirely too bothered by mac doing things in different ways from windows. Coming from having experience in using linux systems I think I'll be quite familiar with a mac. However, the biggest thing that got me while watching your vids is defintely the issue with the dock and also the file transfer not showing any details. I am honestly quite appalled that mac doesn't have something in place for what I'd consider a fundamental feature for modern OSs. That being said, I'm still very excited to get my hands on a new mac. The biggest driving point for me is the fact that I'll be able to use my design software alongside having a bash terminal natively for my programming. Something that would drive me nuts when on windows or on a linux machine is how you cannot have both worlds natively on your pc. For bash you have to either install wsl, or some 3rd party terminals like cygwin or git bash which are not as intergrated in the system as simply having them natively like in linux. Similarly, with linux, you have to hop through some hoops as well if you even hope to run software like the Affinity design suite or Clip Studio paint. At the very least, with a macbook I'll be able to easily access my design software tools that I want to use more regularly, along with my wacom tablet, all while also being able to do my work and having the best experience and speed when compiling my code. That and of course the insane battery life are the main driving points for a mac for me. The other features that come with the mac are of course nice bonues, but I'm glad to have been exposed to some issues I will likely encounter coming from windows and linux. I wish more people would make videos to show the differences between the operating systems and expose more of apple's shortcomings so that people considering a switchover can do so with realistic expectations.

[@soonerborn9073]

I have no problem with macOS doing things differently either but it has to make sense and just too many things are implemented very poorly.

[@AJ-pc6tu]

Thanks for both videos. I am a heavy Windows for work and was on the fence on whether to get the new M1 vs the Surface 8 I7. After seeing your video, I am going with the Surface and a curved monitor. PR

[@KSSeattle]

I tried to switch from Windows to MacOS for 3 times, your frustration is exactly what I had. Just amazed that other people don't talk about them, until I saw your videos.

[@21N13]

Yeah, it's refreshing to find real life examples of things going wrong. And the hilarious freezing montage, lol. I think most Mac users just don't run into these, because they aren't used to do things like on Windows, so they aren't trying to recreate the Windows experience. But some issues are macOS shortcomings, macOS bugs or rooted in unfamiliarity with macOS (e.g. not knowing about many ways to do things and not knowing any power user to ask questions of freely) and others are incompatibilities with Apple's M-series (e.g. Adobe and bug fixes).

[@PXKMProductionsGaming]

In relation to your (software) dock woes, there is an option in the settings to make the dock very small and then magnify when you mouse over the icon. Actually, I dunno if the dock size is in settings also, but there's a black/grey bar on the dock you can use to change its size. As for multiple windows, you can click and hold on, say, Safari's icon and it'll show you a text list all the windows open. Also, Mission Control will give you a title of the window when you mouse over it.

[@danielrico]

In case it helps: 1.- You can remove all the apps from the doc (you know they are just "shortcuts"), you can do this by simply dragging out of the Doc the icons. This way only the icons of open apps will appear there. 2.- It is very useful to know some keyboard shortcuts, I think you will like: command/tabulator, it shows you the open apps and if you keep pressing command/tabulator, tab, tab.... you go from one to another. If you don't know it, try it, it's quite handy. Courage and patience ;)

[@miroslavhoudek7085]

This video somewhat confirms my suspicion that lately it's been a waste of time and money to try to upgrade to anything else than what I already have and use. I've been this "on the edge" of the tech frontier guy, trying all the tech there was. But lately it feels like anywhere I'd go, there would be something to bother me and it would never be resolved. Having a Windows laptop or workstation at least gives me some versatility (all the productive AND games run on it), and when it's too old I can always make it into a media center or server.

[@JeremyNeish]

I was using my Mac today and I realized why Windows users tend to minimize windows a lot (something that frankly isn't a great experience on MacOS) and that's because they probably haven't engrained command-h to hide the current app. I do it so automatically that I don't even think about it. CMD-H hides the current app and all its windows, not just the current window. It's vastly superior in almost all cases to minimizing. I use this in place of spaces/virtual desktops. CMD-TAB and CMD-H are my window/application managers.

[@redbaronlast]

Absolutely!!!

[@markkempton4579]

I'm thinking of trying Mac, so thanks for that. Windows essentially does that by just minimizing the current window with WIN+. Can't live without it!

[@dankosek4274]

As a former Windows user, I love some of your observations about MacOS quirks and differences. Most of what you are complaining about are non Apple software issues like Adobe and Chrome. I put up with Chrome, but thankfully, I don't have to use Adobe for my work. I think Adobe is sub-standard software at best and have never preferred it. Thankfully, my dev tools, MS Office, Drawing tools all work without issues. I have a Windows laptop for work, which is a whole other ball of wax. Windows 10 has just finally gotten stable, for the most part, and MSFT is EOLing it for Windows 11, which is currently in "piece of junk" mode. Linux is good for certain things, but I have to flow back and forth between Windows and the MacOS and after 30+ years of Windows (v2.01 thru v10+)and 12+ of Mac, I have ended up preferring MacOS.

[@completelymindfucked]

@@user-pn2xt3jw1i What do you mean?

[@gabeclark8050]

I've tried safari as I switched to Mac to do things the "apple" way. In my very short experience it is actually more unstable than chrome. Gonna stick with it for a lot of time though to really embrace mac and give it a real chance, despite the transition frustration.

[@dankosek4274]

@@user-pn2xt3jw1i No, I actually hate using Windows these days. MacOS and Linux are so much better. I choose MacOS because I prefer it’s feature set and logic for the arrangement of it’s tools and functionality.

[@jcs184]

When I had moved to Ubuntu from windows about 10 years ago I had the same issues, tried to find a way to do it windows way, so used Linux Mint for few days (it has similar bar system as windows). Finally I realized that I’m not using Ubuntu anymore and switched back to Ubuntu. Later when I moved to Mac, I didn’t look for a windows or Ubuntu way to do it in Mac. Instead, I embraced Mac and I loved it. Today if you give me a windows, I’ll become frustrated in 30 seconds trying to scroll or move the mouse.

[@CoViot]

Little thing about the problem with the popups, you can turn them out under notifications.

[@kdibaba]

This content is 10/10. As a heavy user of Linux, Windows and MacOS, I can say there are a lot of frustrations on all fronts. I have resigned to a windows desktop for daily home use, Mac laptop for mobile use and Linux homeserver (this is kinda obvious).

[@TrueLee]

Omg. Why do Windows people try to turn MacOS into Windows. These people are so rigid, inflexible, and afraid of change. All the issues he brought up have never been an issue for me. Been using macs with dual screens for years.

[@bootydaddy9934]

the exact same can be said about mac people

[@Red7Ent]

Dragging and dropping into Premiere has never been a problem for me. I’m surprised you’re having trouble. It is also possible to drag a file to the new location, which will totally move it, effectively cutting and pasting.

[@ryanokeefe12]

Not helpful if you're in a folder and want to move it to another folder without opening a new window.

[@Red7Ent]

@@ryanokeefe12 well, you can drag and drop without opening a new window too, but you would then need to re-navigate to the original location as dragging the file to the destination would navigate you to the destination folder. But if you plan to cut and paste a file with only one window open, I fail to see how dragging the file to the destination and completely leaving the original location is any different. You would still only have one window open, and you’d be moving your file(s) to the new destination.

[@ryanokeefe12]

@@Red7Ent This is only possible if the destination folder is visible in the finder tree.. if it's a sub folder that isn't visible, youre screwed.

[@Red7Ent]

@@ryanokeefe12 if you drag the file over the top folder and hold it for a second, it will open that folder, then you can navigate to the appropriate sub-folder.

[@saarin0tsorry]

I was a life-long PC user and I got at least 10 years on you. I picked up my first Mac in 2012. I use both OS daily as I am an audio professional and use AFMG EASE for acoustic modeling and AutoCAD on the PC for work and all my photography and home recording on my Macs. Switching from old habits on one OS to the other is a BIG adjustment for about a year. After that, I rarely notice the differences. I just do it. As another post said: When I shoot my Fujifilm X-T3 I am in a major fight over decades of Nikon habits. So I shoot with cameras, but reach for the Nikons for work when I need to be quick.

[@francescob.3019]

man, i’ve bought that laptop 3 days ago and your video is like watching myself 2 weeks in the future. that thing that you can’t shift select in thumbnail view is bonkers. I enjoyed the video a lot. Very sensible and unbiased. Keep us updated!

[@raheem201231]

What is shift select? You can quick look with space

[@Towelie-]

@@raheem201231 Selecting multiple items in finder with shift pressed down, it's doable in list view but not thumbnail view for whatever reason

[@atomictyler]

@@Towelie- I have that same problem in windows

[@karanjoshi2662]

Virtual desktop work amazing on windows too, I use them a lot on my pc too. Keeping apps with study and work related stuff on one and any other thing on the other. Keeps you focused, it's a feature I loved in linux but gotta say windows also does it great without any problems or lacking features.

[@rimileitao]

It’s probably too late but you can swipe down with 3 fingers on the trackpad to reveal all windows from the same app on each screen (or CTRL down arrow). You can see open apps using command tab, and you can hide the dock. If you are using a non apple mouse you can activate hot corners too to invoke certain actions.

[@DamianSheesh]

It's so refreshing to see this video. I've been mucking around with computers now for over 35 years and many OSes. I use a Windows machine as my daily, an M1 MBP for work travel and I run Linux on a chromebook. Out of them all, I still prefer Windows by a good bit. I am by no means a fanboy, but I think Windows is still sullied by a very long, poor reputation going back to the problems of W95 and 2k, etc. Truth is, my self-built gaming machine is far more stable, and it behaves for me in a way that makes more sense, like looking at a folder of files laid out plainly by date (something my mac struggles to be able to do with any predictability - it sometimes takes ages to put a timestamp on a recent file for whatever reason). In general, I find windows allows me to do what I want both more straightforward and more flexibly than with the mac. Like Lee, I've had to install 3rd party programs to mimic things I should get out of the box like hyperdock and bettertouchtool. Both machines very much have their merits, but I will send this video to the many mac fanboys I work with who look at me like a monster when I tell them I prefer windows.

[@thatwasprettyneat]

I just wrote an article on Medium to which, somewhat puzzlingly, mac people flocked to, insulting me and saying I didn't know what I was doing and that's why I didn't like Mac OS, but what you just said kind of echoes my experience. Yes, you can download third party apps to do the things you need to do, but that's a really bad look for Apple, and it's off putting to me personally.

[@DamianSheesh]

@@thatwasprettyneat that's really the nature of the fan club. It's amazing how people spending thousands of dollars and not getting paid thousands of dollars will still willingly shill for a company, and I think it mostly comes down to the 'cool' factor. Apple has long been seen as the hip brand and despite numerous mistakes and ridiculous prices on things, the fan base cannot get enough.

[@ThinkCleverAndSmart]

As a life long Mac user, I understand the underlying reasons to why things work in a specific way on MacOS. Everything has a reason and it all becomes incredibly intuitive once you know it, since everything works the same way. I've also been trapped into making windows look like MacOS on my school PC, and no, it's not a good idea. Just try to get used to the new way of doing things and you'll be way happier than trying to make Mac work like Windows.

[@RickKnight]

I’ve spoken English my entire life; Spanish is hard.

[@jeremypope-levison721]

This was a great video. In March 2020 I built a PC because I couldn't afford a Mac. Now when I use MacOS I get so frustrated because it's so different and doesn't do what I want. I love my PC, and I'll never switch back but for day to day it's great to have a Mac too