What They Don't Tell You About Molag Bal - Elder Scrolls Lore

[@michaelritchie5829]

oh god please make this daedric lore a full series

[@FullOedipus]

Steel or iron, that's what you need. Leave that fancy stuff to the elves.

[@fabulouschild2005]

YES

[@apolloisnotashirt]

@@FullOedipus Orichalcum shows great strength, you milk drinker.

[@xavierzabie8184]

"It is better to be feared, than loved. If you cannot be both." - Machiavelli I think this is Bal's mentality exactly.

[@iantheroman1016]

Machiavelli said that with the context of: If you want to be an effective ruler it is better to be feared than loved if you cannot be both

[@xavierzabie8184]

@@iantheroman1016 oh I'm sorry you're right with that context the title of Daedric PRINCE doesn't apply here, I guess. Especially since it was a quote from a book called "The Prince". Don't start something you can't finish.

[@greenflame070]

@@iantheroman1016 And Molag Bal is the Prince of? Domination. Hence, a tyrant. A ruler in the most total sense of the word. So if he can’t be loved in his tyranny he’ll be feared.

[@bobSeigar]

@@xavierzabie8184 That's gotta be the most reddit neckbeard "actshully" comment I've read recently. You missed the content of the quote, then emotionally react when someone completes it. High salience, low processing.

[@xavierzabie8184]

@@bobSeigar sounds like someone wants to start something they can't finish... Machiavelli was a staunch support of the Roman Republic, so a republican. Not in the modern sense. Despite having a glorified resume talking about the necessity of tyrants. So yes I know the context of the quote. But it is a quote for a reason. Context you're too "neckbeard reddit" or w/e for and how it relates to a Daedric PRINCE who is literally considered a tyrant. Sounds like someone is projecting. Sure you want to keep going down this road?

[@TeslaRaijin]

I find it ironic how Molag Bal has always given this vibe of being the most hated and feared. Yet craves loves and affection. Definitely makes him a pitiful soul.

[@carpedagon5401]

I think it further adds to his satanic parallel Satan was a fallen angel who while being full of pride and being evil craved more than anything love and adoration.

[@kayboy6055]

@@carpedagon5401 who the fuck is leading yall to these projective conclusions?

[@sub-jec-tiv]

Garden variety narcissist. What an a-hole. 😂

[@mushroomsrcool1449]

Makes me wanna hug Molag despite the fact he'd probably tear my arms off and divide me into quarters and have me suffer that same pain for aslong as possible.

[@MorphineDoffein]

@@mushroomsrcool1449his a moxleszter a good for nothing Deadra he deserves to be replaced by the Blood emperor Naxerion a dragon born Vampire lord who achieves godly power

[@RecordedMercury]

Molag for me is the most depraved of the princes. His quests just leave you feeling like you've done something *really* fucked. Whether it be torturing an old man or bullying an old war hero into fighting you after he made a vow not to hurt anyone.

[@pancakes8670]

Molag Bal is truly the most pitiful and spiteful of the Daedric Princes. He's the only one that can leave you feeling like an actual evil person. Molag Bal isn't just about defeating his enemies, he wants to truly break them. Their bodies, their values, their promises. Nothing survives an encounter with Molag Bal.

[@suntiger745]

Going with the premise the narrator suggested in the video, Molag Bal's approach seems to be: "If I can't have love, then nobody else gets to have it either!" So he twists, breaks and dominates mortals and lesser daedra to do his bidding, or be destroyed. He probably thinks respect and fear is the same thing too.

[@rilfelursh2790]

Those two missions were light, he must be more fucked up and disgusting, something capable of doing the most twisted and depraved thing.

[@MelkorTolkien]

The old man was a daedric worshipper himself. However, he did get it worse cause he submitted his soul to molag bal, his suffering will be truly eternal.

[@GnosticAtheist]

Molag Bal is just principled and orderly. The weak must be crushed into perfection or dust. Think of him like God in the old testament, clearly evil and void of good, but still an architect of fantasy trying to make something perfect but without the ability to do so.

[@bacaestrife3615]

If you ever do a follow up on Molag Bal, I'd suggest getting the Vigilant mod, as you get a version of Coldharbour that's more accurate to the lore, a warped version of the Imperial City. The story of it also fits your interpretation of the prince.

[@IlMemetor72]

What a fucking mod, honestly one of the best things I've experienced

[@bacaestrife3615]

@@IlMemetor72 It's pretty good overall I agree, my only gripe is that the Coldhabour part is a little long for its own good, as it feels a bit draining by the end of it, but the overall experience is great.

[@herpesinflammation]

I’m flabbergasted that this mod has never been subject for analysis on this channel

[@Ata.TeaGargler]

Too long? My friend, I've replayed that mod twice already, total of three different playthroughs. Though I can see how the 2nd part of the mod can feel a bit exhausting.

[@zarenboug5410]

@@Ata.TeaGargler i’m going to play the vicn trilogy again sometime soon. Hands down the best and obscure mod for skyrim

[@badluck5647]

People often misunderstand Molag Bal as the embodiment of corruption and domination when Bal's motives are actually much more individualistic. For example, Bal wouldn't be a supporter of Dunmer slavery, because he isn't the top of the hierarchy. He doesn't support slavery for the sake of slavery. Bal wants to be the one that dominates, and the Dunmer and their slaves aren't taking orders from the Daedric Prince. Molog Bal doesn't have an impulsive need to corrupt. He chooses to corrupt things due to a jealousy of the creations of others.

[@Blessom]

👏🏿

[@BlueSpams]

He’s the embodiment of a power fantasy.

[@knightr0685]

He's nasty

[@viderevero1338]

He’s like the God of recently rejected Incels.

[@grilledleeks6514]

@@BlueSpams all you did there was admit your power fantasy involves violent rape, you psycho.

[@badluck5647]

As far as lovers go, Vivec could do better.

[@alemirdikson]

Vivec: Hmm I'm a god now... What's something only a god could do...? Rape the God of Rape? Yeah that'll do. Flex on the haters.

[@thecatthatgotaway]

@@alemirdikson bold of you to assume Vivec isn't a bottom

[@gators2728]

He is lucky to have had the attention of the dominator. He is barely deserving of the attention of Peryite.

[@mostevilcoral6568]

@@thecatthatgotaway vivec is absolutely a bottom. He's literally hermaphroditic

[@petitequinte]

"I can fix him"

[@RaynmanPlays]

I wonder if Molag Bal was the previous Kalpa's version of Talos, a king that became a god. Only because the previous Kalpa was a pretty horrible place and Molag Bal was a pretty monstrous ruler, he became Daedra instead of Divine. This would be why he could reveal the secret of CHIM to Vivec: He achieved it in the previous Kalpa. And because he realized he lived in a dream and determined that nobody else really mattered.

[@jeffreylebowski4556]

I miss Drew. Edit: Yes I know he has his own channel. I should have been more specific in that I miss the days when Michael, Scott and Drew were all on the screen together.

[@highlordnox1838]

@@Considirk pulled an arinel and tried to recreate the dwemer experiment, currently in another plane of oblivion

[@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis]

Just visit his channel then^^

[@badluck5647]

Drew's channel: kzbin.info

[@jeffreylebowski4556]

@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis that's not what I meant.

[@20starcombomaker]

With Daedric princes having dual natures, one they proclaim and one that is a more subtle and underlying trait. After some thought, I think Vaermina's goal is to circumvent to process of life and death. Whereas Molag Bal is doing it in spite of Arkay, Vaermina does it in envy. •Vaermina's followers use the miasma which has the effect to slow aging • If all you do is sleep, you are less likely to engage in activities that might kill you (as anything could kill you) • Thinking of what fear is, it is a primal response avoid danger. You are afraid of things that would ultimately kill you. She wants to scare you OF death • She works in the dream realm similar to the concept of and in envy of the dreamsleeve If she can keep you alive and incapacitated, she circumvents both life and death, providing her own supplement for reality sacrificed for her having ultimate control. She is greed, she wants everything to herself, but she is willing to give the benefits of her realm to persuade those to leave behind what they had. The only time she can't have you is when you die, it takes someone alive to sleep. She is like Hermeous Mora, she doesn't explicitly care to rule, just hoarding everything to herself. She is greed. Greedy people lie, cheat, and steal. She lies about reality, she cheats the process of life and death, and she steals memories and dreams. If you don't worship, her she scares you about things you don't want to happen to you in the real world. If you do worship her, you live as a God, she becomes the God head and you control the dream.

[@quintinjansevanvuuren9638]

Molag Ballin' also has some sick bars with an unassailable flow.

[@brenorios4810]

Everytime I see something about Vivec he's doing some wild shit

[@PaladinNathan]

I've seen a few people talk about it and I'd like to add, the mod Vigilant created by Vicn does a really good job at showcasing Molag Bal and what he does. Such a good mod, highly recommend anyone to pick it up and try it.

[@SebasTian58323]

If the secret she shackled him with was her love, that could explain why they're allies in the faction data you were talking about, so it makes sense to me

[@the36lessons11]

I don't think the minds of the gods and divines are so easily explained in human or mortal terms and motivations. Molag is the coagulation and embodiment of his sphere. There may be no reason or motive, just a nature that mortals can't truly comprehend. He is a force in the Mundus and Nirn that happens to be self-aware.

[@Ollybollyk]

It's more complicated than that. Deadric princes are spirits the same way a mortal is a spirit, the difference is that daedric princes are many times more powerful and wrenched into reality. It is as if the sun would somehow gain sentience, but under the laws of the tes universe. The reason why daedric princes are so different though is because they were spirits that were born in oblivion (and aedra as well, btw) when it was first formed, whereas most mortals are born from fragments of the aedra that gave up most of their power to create mundus and nirn by extension. If a mortal being were to establish their grip on reality in the same way daedric princes do by obtaining a comparable amount of power, they'd be just as incomprehensible, as can be seen in Talos. It's just the nature of the TES universe.

[@bus6292]

So the endless horror and torment the Nedic people endured under the rule of the Ayleids could have been avoided if someone just thought to give Molag a puppy. Imagine the strange path he'd have taken as a god if he had a Barnabas who genuinely loved him.

[@justme0910]

I'd like to point out that while the interpretation of Molag Bal's character as someone who is deeply insecure, stuck in the cycle of abuse, and yearning to be loved is valid in-universe, this is NOT how abusers typically function in real life. Oh, they often claim that they do what they do because they have been hurt, but most of them either haven't actually experienced any significant trauma, or their trauma is incidental to their abusive behavior. The only reason many people who were abused as children go on to abuse others is not because they wish to pass on their own pain onto others, but because they absorbed the attitudes and beliefs of their abusers that make abuse acceptable. This is because despite common misconceptions, abuse is mainly the result of values, not emotions. Abusers are defined by their inflated egos, entitlement, and lack of empathy. They do not "lose control" or "lash out" out of anger - in fact, their actions are highly calculated. Abusers feel entitled to controlling and dominating their partners, children, employees, friends, or anyone else they are targeting. They consider their cruelty entirely justified and give themselves permission to be abusive. So following real life human psychology, Molag Bal as the Lord of Domination would instead have an overblown sense of self-worth and importance, and demand submission because he feels superior to everyone else, prioritizing his pleasure over the rights and needs of others. If he is easily manipulated by the promise of affection, it is because he believes that OF COURSE others would - and should - adore him, and this adoration pleases his ego.

[@flammenwaffenfries3039]

Sounds like something a feminist would say. I would sacrifice you to Molag Bal

[@suntiger745]

A very good counterpoint. :)

[@ElSombraRegio7]

As someone who works in case-mamagent and directlt with survivors of domestic violence and other abuse. This is spot on. That analysis of abusers who were abused don't afflict horrors due to emotion but because they believe they are moraly enabled to is bone-chilling because its true.

[@dannymac939]

Yeah, Molag Bal is a rapist and supports the crushing and corruption of everything around him and whoever carries out his will. I think calling the Daedra evil is a simplification, but Molag Bal is undoubtedly an evil entity and completely malevolent

[@lord_kinbote3920]

Narcissism and/or psychopathy.

[@CatvsShark]

Can you do Periyite next? He's the one I have the hardest time learning about but I'm fairly interested, especially because I'd like to incorporate him in my D&D campaign somewhat if possible!

[@pancakes8670]

Peryite is very underrated. Very underestimated as well, as he could destroy all of Nirn by simply playing a game of Plague Inc. Peryite takes a lot of forms. In Skyrim he appears as a Spectral Rat, but his most common depiction is that of a Little Green Dragon.

[@LordMortanius]

God of Darwinism is basically Peryite in a nutshell. He's basically Oblivion's tech support outside that.

[@anodyne4670]

I find it interesting how we are obsessive about assigning motives and reasons to evil. It makes the horror less terrifying when you think you know the reason behind it. The thought of understanding something, whether it is true or not, gives us some peace of mind. The idea of something simply being capable of evils terrifies us; understandably so. Believing that we understand it really gives us a sense of control. We don't want to believe that we're dealing with an evil force that threaten us. We prefer that the opposition is just some sad little kid from around the corner that we can laugh at.

[@etinarcadiaego7424]

Real evil isn't some mystical cosmic force. People who are truly "evil" are that way because their brain doesn't function properly. I'm not using that as an excuse or justification. It just is.

[@Elyseon]

Evil doesn't need a reason, though it may try to find a pretext.

[@hipsnowsis7374]

Having watched y'all's videos for some time now, I love the way that your videos have been changing and improving a lot recently. It feels like after years and years of "here's everything about [blank]" videos (which, to be clear, weren't bad in any way, and are much of the reason I know as much as I do about these games) your videos are trending more towards "here's an idea I want to share about [blank]" - rather than just informing, it feels like the videos now, more than ever, offer with that information a degree of interpretation, with lots more context, and perhaps an opinion on how to view it all, always well explained and clearly laid out. You might say that they have a clear and nuanced thesis now, more than they did before. Perhaps it's just that, by now, a lot of us here know all the basics about who the princes are and what the pantheons are like etc etc, so we are more likely to readily understand the context, and thus the content is naturally shifting, but whatever it is, I really like it. I think this new Daedric Princes series offers a perfect point of comparison with the older videos, and I'm really enjoying the way this is going so far - I think there is a lot of value to making new videos on things that you have already covered. The next game may be years away, but this channel is doing just fine from where I'm standing. (P.S. I don't think it's anything to do with Drew leaving because A: he's doing the same thing in his videos IMO and B: there wasn't a huge noticeable shift when he left or anything) (P.P.S I'm not trying to tell you how to write your videos or anything I'm just noting a pattern of things that I'm enjoying)

[@fr0stw0lf97]

Interesting how Arkay can't cure vampirism but Falion can

[@Nami8302_OwO]

Because Falion literally eats kids, so he's got superpowers just like in real life you didn't know that?

[@Ollybollyk]

Falion doesn't cure vampirism, he just transfers your vampirism to the soul you captured in the black soul gem he asks for. That's like eliminating your debt by transferring it to someone else. The debt isn't gone, it's just that someone else is carrying it now.

[@nurrakugy5126]

Arkay is a village idiot lmao

[@feihceht656]

Misinformation is across the world before the truth can get it's shoes on. Arkay could maybe empower people to cure willing vampires but the games show it's not pleasant, but vampirism spreads unwilling from the bites, scratches, and curses

[@Sahil-qp9hf]

Arkay probably will not be willing to transact a soul for a soul with molag bal. Falion gives a black soul in exchange of getting life into the dead body of the dragonborn.

[@pythonhighadder7982]

~@21:00 This trio trying to break the barrier reminds me of another trio. Namely: Vivec, Sotha-Sil and Almalexia who also attempted a breach.

[@WhoAmI-qd9ej]

Molag Bal unironically my favorite daedra, he's just so fascinating

[@viderevero1338]

Fair enough honestly. He’s definitely the most “Evil” one, and that makes him stand out against a lot more “Gray” daedric princes.

[@spookieloop]

I’ve always wondered-is the Molag Bal in ESO the same as Molag Bal from the other games? When The Hero of Kvatch bested Sheo/Jygallag they mantled and became him-could the Vestige be becoming the new Molag Bal by virtue of their victory? Additionally, with the Vestige having the opportunity to free Mannimarco, the working relationship between Mannimarco and Molag Bal in chronologically later installments is amusing-not between former allies/master/servant(also worth noting, Mannimarco ALSO fully intended to betray Bal)-but between former enemies who have ended up in similar spheres(Mannimarco having been split into two forms after Daggerfall, one of which being The Necromancer’s Moon). -the Mannimarco but is less important to the discussion, but it amuses me nonetheless, considering IF The Vestige frees him, he promises to become a problem, yet in Oblivion the version of Mannimarco who did NOT ascend to Godhood is once again in service to Molag Bal(Potentially The Vestige)

[@chesterstevens8870]

Attempt #4 of asking for an "Is it Worth it?" Video on Hermaeous Mora cultism.

[@riflescientist1744]

Molag is my favorite prince aesthetically the blue fire and corruption of the other princes creations are always cool to see

[@m16dude967]

One of the best traits of Molag Bal is that he is such a good sport. You kick his ass and he shakes your hand, looks at the Aedra, and says "promote this man/woman"

[@RainaRahl]

I always viewed molag bal as the embodiment of evil for evils sake. maybe that's how they meant us to see it, at surface level. it's interesting to consider that there may be layers under him. however, I liked viewing him as having no weakness related to "humanity" so it feels like a let down to think that love and jealousy, very human traits, could be reasons for his savagery.

[@WordOfYah]

I really hope the next elder scrolls expands on Bretons. I also am really intrigued by Jyggalag so to see him come back full force, perhaps gaining the worship and devotion of the Bretons, would be really cool to see. Bretons don’t really have a distinct deity and Jyggalag would fit quite nicely.

[@the_corvid97]

I'm curious to know why you think Jyggalag is a good fit for the Bretons? Bretons are prone to being divided into factions with High Rock technically not being a single kingdom. Then again, if someone were to unify High Rock with Jyggalag's help that could be interesting.

[@WordOfYah]

@@the_corvid97 well I’d think Jyggalag would find balance or order in the Bretons being half man and half mer. It would just be really cool with their knightly orders, or perhaps a small extremist cult. I just want something that sets apart the Bretons, they really intrigue me and Jyggalag is similar in that both are lesser known, kinda like the underdogs. So far the Breton lore doesn’t go too deep and they feel quite generic but for some reason they still are my favorite race.

[@WordOfYah]

@@the_corvid97 oops I forgot their not half man/mer, their technically/mostly human and partly elven. 😂

[@the_corvid97]

@@WordOfYah That's totally fair, I've just never seen someone with that idea so I decided to ask.

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

@@the_corvid97 Honestly if I saw anyone getting Jyggy with it, it would probably be a high elven cult. Absolute law and order tends to be their thing and if a group felt their hold on a territory was faltering, I could see some worshipping him in the hopes of regaining it. (I feel like any order gained through Jyggalag would be inherently hollow though. Like cultists turned into Priests of Order and their hearts replaced with Hearts of Order in return for exactly what they asked - only under Jyggalag, not under High Elves).

[@AlexMourning5635]

I never got the chance to play Elder Scrolls growing up, so I've only just begun earlier this year. I'm impressed with the worldbuilding and depth that's been added and have started listening to this series in the background. Kinda loving this!

[@cb-9938]

The mace of Molag bal was my first daedra artifact and I was immediately in love with its look

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

Holy crap, this has languished for FAR too long on my "Watch Later" list, but thank you so much for publishing my theories! I'm really proud that you thought they had enough validity to spread on a larger platform! Cheers, FudgeMuppet!

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

Literally 5 fucking days ya doof. I have some vids in my watch later that have been there for _years._ 5 days lmfao

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

@@cdogthehedgehog6923 I guess I just assume they only look at their comment section on the first day or two after a vid comes out, if at all! I was hoping to thank them for putting my theory up. I tried, anyway, lol.

[@basiliimakedonas1109]

6:05 but how was Molag bal born in Vvanderfel for the island was made during the dawn era by the red mountain where Lorkhan's heart was thrown by Akatosh. Molag bal existed before that being the ruler of the dreughs. He could perhaps have been a daedra but mortal, dying and being reborn

[@andrewhunter4248]

Could it be that the reason Meridia despises all things to do with Molag Bal is that he was the one to cause her to fall from the Magna gi? They were the ones who made him, and Meridia was cast down due to consorting with darker beings. Would make sense that anything that is associated with Molag Bal is an affront to Meridia as they are reminders of her own transgression and reason for her own "punishment".

[@dicynodon1018]

looove this video, but real love I ain’t deceiveing you beloved muppets, best channel in youtube ❤

[@SeamusOCleirigh2002]

I have to say of all the Daedric Princes Molag Bal gives me the most ick (aside from Namira), i only ever do his quests when it fits the character I'm role playing, it is interesting to see his origins and motivations flushed out, great video! Big slayy

[@HerrLindstrom]

I really do love and appreciate these kinds of analysis videos. You guys sound like your having fun just delving face first into all the lore and quite passionate about it. I enjoyed listening to this as I'm doing a playthrough in skyrim. I'm omw to Markarth so I can initiate the quest for Molag Bal 🖤

[@octavianpopescu4776]

I'm playing as a vampire right now, as I was listening how my character is an abomination. She's nice... ish... 😀

[@HerrLindstrom]

@@octavianpopescu4776 lol myself I'm currently working on a power mongering mage (major sauron vibes) still unsure about becoming a vampire but my character does not shy away from necromancy and seeks to know all the secrets of the Aedra and Daedra 😈

[@LandStrider23]

@@HerrLindstrom Sauron could take the form of a horrific vampire & werewolf before the fall of Numenor

[@apolloisnotashirt]

I did not expect such a savage, malevolent, violent, cruel, gruesome Daedra. I thought that would go to Boethiah but godamn I can see why they are rivals.

[@nid2160]

I, so look forward to a Hircine video. Thank you for this amazing series so far

[@DrayLoco]

This is a great video! I love your channel and the lore* behind the Elder Scrolls universe is so interesting

[@infernaldaedra]

1:13 The TAINT of Molag Balls! 😂🤣

[@gtaipan7422]

I have been wondering if Molag Bal is something more than just a devil capable for torment and chaos. He looked so awesome and may have some interesting history of his own true origin and what became such a devastating god. Thanks for the explaining about him, FudgeMuppet. I love to learn lessons about character's own history, philosophy and art.

[@hurrrmmhmmmhmghh8912]

I adore this analysis! I hate Molag Bal in a way that's too strong to be justified by him just being evil by nature and I didn't know why but I think this is exactly it, his actions don't feel done just by nature, they feel like personal choices to be the worst thing he can possibly be, it's irredeemable in a human way. brilliant analysis thank you for posting

[@stasonfrost]

I think it's more along the lines of "if I am unlovable, ill make a mockery of love itself"

[@nighttime3673]

Damn, this explanation aged like fine wine now that I'm playing through Vigilant again.

[@Dottor_J]

Masterpiece of a mod

[@IaeyanElyuex]

TIL Sload Soap is ever nastier than I thought. And I'd already guessed it was nasty.

[@muh.andianto]

I didn't know this Daedric Prince is also centered around the concept of love. Damn I feel a bit of sympathy for him. Now I also understand why vampires in Skyrim never had such a healthy love, marriage, or family. It is the embodiment of the Molag Bal's concept of love. To be undead, is to corrupt the life, to corrupt the love.

[@pacefactor]

Something to add if someone hasn't already mentioned it - the connection here is probably suppose to reflect the 3 states of Lucifer: The Morning Star (Lucifer before his fall), The Revolutionary (Lucifer in rebellion), and the Adversary (Lucifer as a fallen angel/Satan); which would be respective to Meridia (Angelic and associated with light; weapon is literally the Dawnbreaker which correlates with when Venus is at its brightest and thus morning star), Mehrunes Dagon (litterally rebellion and change and is associated with invasion and "setting things right"), and Molag Bal (about as close as you could get to a direct representation of the devil).

[@kingclouddz7999]

Your videos have always been great love the channel and content! This though has to be one your best videos well done boys 🎉!!!

[@gabr.7878]

You are actually extremely smart, your interpretation of Bal is so crazy that's it's actually smart

[@brucehamm2072]

Fudgemuppet and theepicnate are the two best sources of elder scrolls lore on KZbin.

[@ImperatorCaesar1]

Molag Bal is the greatest of the Daedric Princes.

[@SCSAsJorts]

I honestly wouldn’t mind if ES6 (I know we are like decades away from that game) went back to its ES4 premise with a daedric prince being the evil that is attempting to run the land (technically Molag has been touched on in EOS but before the time of Skyrim) and I think Bol should be the main bad or at least have a more focal focus outside of a side quest or hear-say during the dawnguard DLC

[@marshal8358]

Molag Bal giving me some Morgoth vibes with the whole abomination creation thing.

[@Manbarrican]

I am glad Molag and Azura hate each other, I don' t want to imagine what would happen if they joined forces.

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

For real. In ESO after helping Azura clean her shrine she says to the Vestige "I know who you are. Be wary, for you have humbled a Daedric Prince" and then she warns "He will seek revenge". It would be cool if ZOS were to bring Molag Bal back in an expansion.

[@iso-didact789]

@FudgeMuppet The one thing they don't tell you about molag bal is that he likes to prank call churches.

[@Interdacted]

The vigilant mod got me questioning everything about eso xD

[@The_Drippin_Don]

Where are the used clips from?? Especially 2:30, that Molag Bal demon thing looks sick as fuck

[@bobsmith6715]

I don't think that fear and insecurity are the core of his being but rather simply his weakness, part of him born from the nature of who he was a king, not a god complete in his will but having 'human-like' mind prone to imperfection, set in his way towards his ideals but not without emotion. It is because of his domineering strength wowen into his being that although he may wish for love he is only willing to or capable of attaining it through domination. He suffered defeats bringing him shame upon his absolute rule as a tyrant king so he probably feels it necesarry to gratuitously posture his power.

[@jackomecamorfo6060]

if molag bal wants love,why won't he become molag ballin

[@stoicgaardian]

Molag bal isn’t a great guy, just ask Serana. Also I’ve never been this early to a Fudgemuppet video lol

[@raphaelphenix9809]

That he had a smooth voice and a funny personality.

[@ryanscottmccormick191]

Wow, this is one of the best videos I’ve seen of yours so far!!! These comments are intended to be complementary; The piece got ‘real-world’ and practical seemingly apropos of nothing, while landing some intuitive, timely, cultural psychoanalysis. Thanks for all your years of commentary and entertainment. 😊

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

It's honestly one of the cool things about this topic, especially. Most people don't understand how someone goes from normal to evil, and yet it happens all the time in large part because people don't understand what the transformation looks like.

[@hzmicide1738]

Molag uses everyone as pawns. Don’t ever think you have a “deal” with him…well unless you’re the Dragonborn.

[@ConfuseDirt]

If your a female dragon born...well. That deal might come with an extra price to it

[@Linkinpurk]

Milage bal really remembers me of Morgoth with all this corruption going on

[@greasyweeb]

"love, that is, love from Azura" "I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you. Aye, love. Love! Even as man, great Talos cherished us. "

[@ItsyourboyPenguinboy]

“molag Bal is probably the Last Prince you would want to run into” That’s Precisely why I would want to run into him. And steal his shit

[@artemisarrow179]

I like to think Molag Bal’s name is possibly derived from the Canaanite idol “Moloch” and the Phoenician word “Baal”. Making Molag Bal “Moloch Baal”

[@feihceht656]

I've always been curious about what what distinguishes the spheres of boethiah and mehrunes Dagon. Of rebellion and revolution

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

I would only add: "The holy one returned at last, Vehk, golden with wisdom. His head found its body had been tenderly used. He mentioned this to Molag Bal, who told him that he should thank the Barons of Move Like This, 'For I have yet to learn how to refine my rapture. My love is accidentally shaped like a spear.'" From this we can see that Molag Bal truly was kind of smitten with Vivec - Vivec kind of expected Bal to destroy his body, but Molag Bal actually treated it quite well. Molag Bal humbled himself to ask counsel of other Daedra so that he might be more gentle with Vivec's body. "But Vivec made of his spear a more terrible thing, from a secret he had bitten off from the King of Rape. And so he sent Molag Bal tumbling into the crack of the biters and swore forever that he would not deem the King beautiful ever again." after more evidence of Vivec showing Molag Bal "a good time of spear biting" and some "belly magic". Vivec not only dumped Molag Bal, he salted that wound. Vivec using sex to steal the secrets of Chim and his spear, Muatra, from Molag Bal is so integral to his mythology as the Anticipation of Mephala - this is such a classically Mephala tactic!

[@b.c.s.o4169]

so....molag bal just needs a hug

[@Imperiused]

"Do you think I require supplication? Do you mistake me for Molag Bal?" Man, guys, Malacath is so goddamn cool. Little wonder all the other daedra fucking hate him. Pretty good company to be in, right?

[@grayfox9191]

The story of molag bal's origin makes me absolutely love mehrunes dagon. Dagon, boethia, and sheogorath are the best daedric princes and i will respectfully disagree with anyone who says otherwise!! Lol.

[@mryellow9655]

Hermaeus mora is the stronguest daedric prince

[@SandGentleman]

I just love that the background music for a video about the Lord of Domination and King of R*pe is this soft and peaceful lmao

[@MCPunk55]

So Molag is trully the Daedric Prince of INCELS... huh... never thought about that. Kudos to that commenter. I wonder if Molag would vote for the Empire or Ulfric.

[@jenx5870]

Ulfric. The guy who so wanted power, that he essentially cheated by shouting the High King to death, instead of battling him in a fair fight like a man. The man who rules over his city and callously disregards the corruption, murder, and overt racism that goes on within its walls. Never mind the fact that he allows poor Sophie, an innocent orphan girl, to sleep on the freezing streets alone at night. The Empire's goals are for the greater good of Tamriel and all of her people. They see the big picture. They know the true enemy is the Thalmor. Ulfric's goals are all about Ulfric and his power. He wants the Nords to rule the land - and he wants to be the Emperor. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You know that a man like Ulfric, who has already shown he lacks integrity, would fall prey to the title. He would soon have a harem of women and do unspeakable things to enemies. Other races would be banished to slums and tortured - or worse. Molag Bal would make him a deal he couldn't refuse. A deal to allow him to rule forever. Why do you think he has his house in Markarth - a stronghold of Ulfric's, and not the Empire? Yeah, Mr. Bal backs no one but himself, but he waits for Ulfric to find him.

[@MB-dk6hk]

@@jenx5870 Torryg was an act of self defence!

[@lakeofrot4198]

I don't want to know what they don't tell you. What they do is bad enough.

[@wampiroindoril]

If this is true, it would make him maybe my favourite Daedra from them all. :)

[@LeprosuGnome]

He also probably loves to corrupt others to justify to himself that there is no perfect being, that no one can resist hardship without falling from grace. Maybe it hints that he wasn't a "tyrant" with the dreg, but maybe a respected and LOVED ruler, who fell from grace. Necessity of justification of his acts aligns perfectly with his insecurities.

[@God-pc9nm]

Molag Bal you naughty little deadra. I'm glad I cured my vamparism, becoming came a werewolf, taking mirrak's place, and a nightingale too seek safety when he tries to retrieve his dardric artifact and champion that betrayed him.

[@KatonRyu]

While I like the theory that Molag Bal is just a typical abuser with godlike power, I honestly prefer the idea that he's just evil for no reason at all. It's often said that the Daedric Princes are incomprehensible to humans and are above morality as we know it. Tormenting lowly mortals might really just be something he does because he wants to and thinks is funny, not for some Freudian reason because he's an UwU sad boi who wants love.

[@jamalisujang2712]

This must be what it feels like to hear a lecture about the olympian gods and their demigods in when you lived in ancient greece.

[@nikoguarro]

Also Molag Bal created Grievous Twilights which seem to be the male version of the Winged Twilight. I think both created these creatures really

[@fallofall1914]

I can see Molag Bal having a bowtie and a bouquet of nightshade and deathbells on the first date with Azura.

[@Xalerdane]

Of course, this is all contingent on Vivec not having been pulling it all out of his ass.

[@orbitalbutt6757]

Interesting choice of words

[@kyrasoze516]

Next time I'm in the Imperial City Sewers, I'll try hugging his simulacrum.

[@danielgiovanniello7217]

Molag Bal, the only Daedric Prince to earn his place on the Sex Offender Registry.

[@bronwenaustin8278]

Just out of curiosity does anyone know what happened to Valerica after you leave the soul cairn? Do the ideal masters get her or does she just go back into hiding?

[@nataliehughes4258]

Oddly enough, I do relate to Molag Bal. Great video!

[@alainajobe5823]

Thrilled that the thumbnail isn’t piss yellow :’)

[@regs137]

He raped Lamae so badly that she died. That is not Bully behavior. That is evil.

[@sagittariusa7662]

The Eight Divines. Kynareth, Dibella, Mara, Azura, Meridia, Boethiah, Mephala and Nocturnal. Kynareth, Goddess of Wind and Courage. Dibella, Goddess of Fire and Passion. Mara, Goddess of Earth and Motherhood. Azura, Goddess of Twilight and Justice. Meridia, Goddess of Life and Benevolence. Also Light itself. Beothiah, Non-binary Goddess of Freedom and Revolution. Also Water. Mephala, Goddess of Destiny and Secrecy (as well as Privacy). The Time Goddess. Nocturnal, Goddess of Darkness and Fortune. They embody the eight elements: Wind, Fire, Earth, Twilight, Light, Water, Time, and Darkness. There are also two additional divines, referred to as the Fallen Divinities: Namira and Vaermina. Namira is the Goddess of Corruption and Knowledge. Vaermina is the Goddess Terror and Dreams. They provide two additional elements: Corrosion (Which is Acid and Poison) and the Mind (Fear, not fear that causes cowardice, fear that causes damage to one's mind and senses). These two elements like Necromancy are often forbidden to be taught since they cause more harm than good. Any of the Goddesses can be either good or bad, but some more bad than others. Typically, the eight Good Divines serve a good purpose but can be dangerous in excess of power or dominion over the others. So long as they are balanced, they cannot cause harm. Furthermore, each of them has something that balances a characteristic of another or an essence of rivalry between them such as Dibella and Azura both being Thot Goddesses, although Mephala and Dibella are both Slut Goddesses. Dibella is the most feminine of the Goddesses, while Beothiah is Masculine (still female, although identifies as non-binary). For instance Meridia and Boethiah will cancel each other out for what harm one could do over the other. This isn't true for the two Fallen Divinities which albeit can serve a good purpose are just as likely to perform evil. All ten of the Divines are sisters and all daughters of Anu and wives of the Chosen Hero, be he male or female, Elf or Man or Beast, Good or Evil. Then you have the Ten Great Sinners (Sanguine the Sin of Debauchery, Molag Bal the Sin of Tyranny, Clavicus Vile the Sin of Desire, Hermaeus Mora the Sin of the Unorthodox, Hircine the Sin of Predation, Jyggalag the Sin of Absolutism, Malacath the Sin of Chaos, Mehrunes Dagon the Sin of Disruption, Peryite the Sin of Decay, and Sheogorath the Sin of Lunacy) and the Ten Great Saints (Auri-El the Saint of Noble Hero, Akatosh the Saint of the Eternal Hero, Arkay the Saint of Timely Hero, Julianos the Saint of the Wise Hero, Stendarr the Saint of the Merciful Hero, Zenithar the Saint of the Diligent Hero, Shezarr the Saint of the Wandering Hero, Y'ffre the Saint of the Natural Hero, Syrabane the Saint of the Mystical Hero and Trinimac the Saint of the Orderly Hero) which also act to balance each other. Malacath and Trinimac are the same entity that alters between his two personas as a means to balance creation between order and chaos. Unlike the Goddesses who keep the world in balance through prayer and devotion, the Sinners and Saints provide teachings that either bring great honor or dishonor. You can learn from those who become such paragons of virtue or the complete opposite that they literally became Gods in their own right. There is a Chosen Hero, but he isn't a Saint as a Hero who become a God due to his Heroic Nature; Rather he is the hero who comes not as wanted by the masses but as needed. A Mortal Hero who is forever Mortal. It is also important to note that any of the Divines can be Male and the Sinners as well as Saints can be Female. This is just the Orthodox take of it. Then you have the Three Creators: Anu, Sithis, and Magnus. Anu the Creator of the World in Whole, Sithis the Creator of the World Undone (Destroyer God), and Magnus the Creator of the World Beyond (Magic). Unlike the Divines, the Saints and the Sinners, the Creators play no role with the world beyond what they embody (The Creation of the World as it is, The Creator who Undoes the World, and the Creator of what lies beyond the world). This is how I would have done Elder Scrolls. 33 Gods.

[@jaceybenton]

10/10 best content to eat breakfast to.

[@minegishikazuya6363]

8:55 is that scene from eso?

[@ElvenFruitcake]

This also makes me think the greatest defense against Molag Bal's evil is just to love him, refusing his actions and to be dominated by him but loving him regardless, and with a small individual part, preventing the spread of his corrupted heart.

[@Mrryn]

I think that idea is a good example of "easier said than done." Especially when Bal's definition of love is total ownership/dominion...nothing you do can be or even construed as being not for him, otherwise your love and affection isn't "complete." Think a toxic, abusive, controlling partner, who snaps if you so much as look at another person...multiply that by about a million and apply it to all of creation, and you just about get what Molag Bal wants/believes he is due.

[@dodgecityrecords4685]

Molag Bal = Moloch Baal

[@kazeryu4834]

Molag Bal being an incel lashing out at the world does make a lot of sense

[@kazat0105]

aw poor thing, he's just an abused sad boy :( If his thing wasn't spiky and barbed I'd consider becoming a pure vampire too

[@kam......]

I know it's just an accent but I can't get it out of my head that it sounds like he's saying Murloc ball, in a Cartman-ish voice.

[@ralphnewcomejr]

WOW Brother!!! You've changed your narration,AS WELL as the footprint you leave! Outstanding work!! There's NO "muppet" about your work! LETS GET'EM LITTLE BROTHER!!! I've got more than one sword,bow,and alchemist gift to WIN a battle!!!🤘☢️🤘!!!

[@Firedie2026]

the funny thing is that you can get his mace i think at falkreth in the abadoned house