Nords | The Elder Scrolls Podcast #47

[@EinFelsbrocken]

Ah; my favourite trio of loremasters: Screw; Dichael & Mott

[@ElectricOstrich]

what about dcott, sichael and mrew?

[@rokturi]

you mispelled theyre names

[@EinFelsbrocken]

@@rokturi You misspelled "their" 😁

[@EinFelsbrocken]

@@rokturi And you misspelled "misspelled" 😂

[@direct2397]

@@EinFelsbrocken lol

[@talkamar8333]

Shoutout to the fudgemuppet crew for making such quality content on a consistent basis with hardly any new fuel to run off

[@idipped2521]

They could make a video about the Akaviri dragon war and some of the ties and tensions that could possibly be going on over there rn. If you think about it the Akaviri Dragon War in which the red dragons were wiped out was a big catalyst in Tamrielic history since the dragons fled to Atmora after

[@pavelharalampiev9292]

they will always be things to cover in such an expensive universe

[@bgonzales817]

They have plenty of lore to work with still honestly. They can keep making content untill we all die.

[@idipped2521]

@@bgonzales817 There are millions of things to talk about but I honestly think it would be cool if they started covering middle earth lore as well

[@idipped2521]

@@bgonzales817 Obv I like the TES universe more than middle earth but it's amazing what one man was able to do with it

[@bashirsheikh7322]

i kinda wish that skyrim had a group that tries to restor old norden culture, the current nords are more imperialized it would have been cool to have a group that restor their ancestors wayes

[@Serana_is_so_CUTE]

Ey we always have the Companions that we can count on Oh wait

[@EinFelsbrocken]

Well; the stormcloaks are doing one hell of a job "deempirializing" ... 🙄

[@hovrolukic9312]

the Skaal

[@matiasezequielbassi3910]

well, the greybeards and stormcloacks are the most "traditional" ones... but it makes sense that they are imperialized

[@yojishinkawa378]

@@EinFelsbrocken Not while I'm around. :)

[@livicent208]

I feel like the Jarl in Morthal comes kinda close to the idea of more “mythical” Nord jarls with all her visions, her outfit and all. She just seems more mysterious and in touch with the mundus than the others. Also an episode about the Khajiit would be awesome 😍 they’re so fascinating!

[@tonys9397]

I love idgrod

[@bgonzales817]

Was looking at Ysgramor's statue which i assume is actual size since its ment to hold his axe and he was pretty darn tall. Made my high elf look short. If all nords use to be around that size i can see how 500 of them could wipe out the snow elves.

[@sanguis9151]

Thay would make sense that ancient nords were huge, a lot of theories say giants and norda share a common ancestor from Atmora. Giants got the size and Nords got the mental capacity.

[@jeremyedwards7651]

Does anyone else think that being “breathed upon the throat of the world by Kyne” is a metaphor for sailing on the wind to Skyrim

[@viysnjor4811]

i think its a bit more literal, i think once shor gathered the wandering ehlnofey under his banner, his chosen warriors (the nords) were annointed upon the throat of the world by his wife, kyne, and given their power and racial identity at that moment

[@eamonlyons8318]

Sounds very viking

[@viysnjor4811]

@Sanguine We're talking the merethic era though, early merethic era even, back when the gods literally walked among mortals, auri-el and trinimac weren't distant, philosophical beings, they quite literally fought battles against proto-men, led by shor and kyne, alongside the proto-mer

[@FuckGuidelines]

This is exactly what it means, the breath of kyne guided the atmorans fo Skyrim, and which it is called the throat of the world. So it is exactly what you think it is.

[@Hero_Of_Old]

​@@FuckGuidelinesno the first Nords were just born onto the Throat of the World

[@idipped2521]

I just wanna take a moment to thank the guys from Fudgemuppet for giving me videos to look forward to even when I'm going through the worst of times. I feel like no matter what, I always got one of these videos to fall back on to take me out of the normal world with all this BS and craziness going on. Been having some rough times lately and honestly I think I would be a lot worse off without the hard work you guys do to bring us something to think about another world away from all this. And I know I'm not the only one. Thank you guys FOR REAL

[@FudgeMuppet]

Thank you so much, we are so glad we could brighten your day

[@idipped2521]

@@FudgeMuppet These videos definitely do. Recently asked Camel to come back on the podcast and he said I have to ask y'all so please bring him back soon

[@mephistophelesthesilentchi3446]

"Seen any elves?? Hahahaha!" - every Nord at least once

[@CyberController-]

Ysgramor and Ahzidal after The Return

[@SilverFang2789]

Yeah the hatred of elves is in Nord blood

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@CyberController- Kinda twisted to laugh about genocide 😓

[@hermonymusofsparta]

@@thalmoragent9344 Thalmor do it too. Both sides are the same yet so different

[@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree]

@@thalmoragent9344 Kinda twisted to commit it too, but that's none of my business. **Sips mead**

[@chasebrekke6816]

I like the idea of nords triumphing often and the connection with shor and the strength of man. its pretty cool how a group of basically human chad's can beat the elves who have magic and the long lifespan stuff.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Well, the God of Luck was involved as well, don't forget. He was even chastised by Y'ffre, Mara, and Ebonarm because he was loving on a Nordic woman too much, and brought Calamity to the Snow Elves in Skyrim, along with High Rock and Morrowind. Nords are good warriors, but the Redguards are still superior in that regard

[@Koyomix86]

@@thalmoragent9344 On the topic of best warriors I think of it like this: Orcs are the most ferocious, Redguards are the most skilled, and Nords are a mix of both.

[@NamelessKing1597]

15:25 I think it's both, but I think the Dwemer are overestimated more than the Nords were underestimated. You could also argue the tonal architecture of the Dwemer gave them an unintended weakness to the thuum specifically. Could you imagine a force shout bouncing off the walls just tossing everything around? Nord General: "By Ysmir. We were trying to bring down the walls, not the whole mountain! HA HA HA HA HA"

[@owenhalloran3111]

imagine a megaphone made of the dwemers tonal metal. Allows 1 tongue to shout with the power of 3

[@gptechnologiesmangalore6909]

You saw those nords from skyrim? They got long beards long beards

[@timothyr.cyphers6939]

🙂

[@JHS270694]

Ysmir's beard!

[@valeclaw1697]

"We lost at red mountain because we weren't using the voice for our faith" Shor's ghost doing a Pikachu wat face.

[@viysnjor4811]

jurgen windcaller couldnt accept that nerevar had better strategy, so instead he blamed divine intervention and took away the nords’ greatest power

[@sindrimyr5351]

@@viysnjor4811he made them into generic barbarians...gods I hate that.

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

​@@viysnjor4811tbf honoring the Olds gods with the voice would be better than just using it Wil nilly especially since most of the Old Nordic gods are warlike anyways

[@JonStark117]

That intro music gets me every time!

[@Aethuviel]

I can't hear it in any context now without seeing Vivec hovering up and down to it.

[@gabrielinostroza4989]

Regarding Jorrvarskr, It could very well be a "Ship of Theseus" situation, in which it probably DID rot and get damaged overtime but got repaired so the ship both is and isn't the original.

[@nyyhkynessu1127]

How dare you imagine realistic situations when talking about a fantasy universe :'D

[@jamesnievin2521]

This may be hard to do, but I would actually be interested in a pod on the 1st Pocket Guide to the Empire. Includes some of the coolest TES lore and also a fair amount of retcons for you to provide takes on.

[@stveloth694]

Y E S This would be a cool topic to cover I think

[@lonewolf-re2fg]

That's one of the reasons I think the elder scrolls is so interesting. Because we get lore from in universe, biased sources like the pocket guide. So there's lots of wiggle room for things to not be totally true or correct at all and allows the writers to be able to do a lot more

[@minecraftuser_SVT]

Yes yes yes!! That's a great idea

[@EinFelsbrocken]

Have you guys ever thought abt making a lets play of ESO together? Basically you could limit it to doing questlines together and analyze them (I sure would also watch sone funny edits); tell us what you think of it. Idk

[@ironic4910]

that would be cool

[@danielknutson4502]

I second this.

[@darthxerox15]

I third this

[@chrispetersen4863]

"Brilliant!!!!"

[@chopsyoutube]

Nah, the Skyrim together mod 😳

[@FaeFemboi]

Love these videos more than anything else. Let's get freaky with the theories! When can we expect a Pelinal Whitestrake episode?

[@chrisvandergriff504]

Agreed. We've seen a couple discussion videos, some related content, but a genuine hour long free-form discussion about Pelinal would be awesome.

[@idipped2521]

TES 6 should definitely bring back the metaphysical fantasy feeling that Morrowind had

[@goldvivec1344]

bring back esoteric nonsense like chim , time travel and dragon breaks

[@idipped2521]

@@goldvivec1344 TES is literally a fantasy universe. It should have esoteric elements to it and not be overly mundane and boring. I like the gritty oblivion and skyrim armor styles tho. Don't they should have warcrafty armor in 6 like in ESO

[@patkidd6489]

As long as Todd is at bethesda it won't happen. He hates complexity

[@RomanStan]

I think an episode on the Thuum is a good one, the idea of the thuum being a power that can be learned through meditation and learning what the word is makes the ancient Nords and modern day Nords who practice the voice sound wise

[@dxk65]

What you said about making dragons more unique and rare made me think of how they’re handled in Dragon Age Inquisition. There’s only ten dragons ti fight and because of that each fight feels like it’s own unique challenging spectacle.

[@NamelessKing1597]

48:23 They're both gods of status, Nords seek glory in war, Imperials seek success in wealth. So for the Nords he's a God of Trials and for the Imperials he's a God of commerce.

[@tonys9397]

Yes! I was trying to put into words but couldn’t

[@yuriklastalov9653]

"To cover all the Nords we'd need like, 5 hour podcasts" No, please, uh, don't, er, anything but... that. plz do that

[@Runahund]

I love this podcast! Nords are my go to to play literally any character. I love their lore and real world relatability. Thank you Fudgemuppet!

[@maxteraform]

You could always say regarding dragons and shouts, that since the Dragons were the governing faction in Atmora, they spoke the dragon language. So Ysmir Wulfarth could only speak dragon (draconic?) and that is why he couldn't talk at all. So Tounges just took every word more to them and made them shouts.

[@K_Kobe]

This podcast is one of the only constants I have week to week

[@miakoblastsprocket7379]

I know it's a year late, but my thoughts regarding the Voice is that I think the gods bestowed such a power onto the nords because they were u justly oppressed by the dragons. So when they began to abuse it, the gods made it increasingly more rare, hence the various ages of the greybeards, Ulfric Stormcloak, etc. Even Jarl Balgruuf made the journey of the 7000 steps. So by Skyrim, it's a very rare thing but not so rare that only the legendary dragonborn can possess it.

[@jarelb7815]

Morrowind: "Outlander" Oblivion: Bruma person Skyrim: Viking dragon people

[@elblah9721]

I find it poetic that a few guys from a country that was formerly a penal colony spend so much time discussing games where the player character starts being released or escaping from incarceration. 🖖

[@SilverFang2789]

If there is any lesson to be learned, its never get into a shouting match with a Nord. You'll always lose.

[@OrgusDin]

Scott: Morrowind era lore good Me: yeah, that repeat

[@sagetmaster4]

I'll be sad if the ARGONIAN SHELLBACKS don't get brought up in this podcast

[@Mary_Beth_Reimer]

Yay! My Sunday morning wake up call 😀 Thank you Scott! ❤️ Thank you Drew! 💜 Thank you Drew's Torchic! 💛 Thank you Michael! 💙

[@PetrusEksteen]

Thank you fellas for making this, once a month (or fortnight?) I stay up past 1 AM playing games and watching this podcast... that Morrowind theme intro will never get old.

[@srs4530]

A fortnight should be two weeks if I'm not mistaken.

[@PetrusEksteen]

@@srs4530 yup! I forget if they do these videos every two or four weeks

[@srs4530]

@@PetrusEksteen Oh! I misunderstood you there

[@CodexisInkwind]

Part of me wishes the nordic weaponry in skyrim had been more powerful in general. They were great designs but only mid tier from what I recall

[@danielaispuro1194]

I know it has been mentioned before in previous lore videos, but I would really enjoy it if there could be a podcast on Nerevar and the Tribunal! :D

[@Wabaloo]

honestly some of my favorite videos are the "Era explained videos" a podcast over your guys favorite bit of lore from each era would be sick.

[@Theology.101]

Fun Fact, despite the obvious Norse pantheon, the Nordic pantheon is influenced a lot by the Egyptians. Especially with Shor acting as an Osiris figure, Tsun an Anubis figure (judging the dead) and the widow ruling until their son (Kyne/Isis and Talso/Ysmir) comes of age to fight the ancient enemy, a serpent who eats the world (Alduin/Apophis)

[@lolosh99]

The way I waited patiently for when I’m about to sleep, to absorb all the Fudgey knowledge.

[@EdStrings]

Always found it wholesome that one of Lorkhan’s artifacts is his ❤️. Touch the heart become a God.... Or Zero sum

[@guardiancologne9034]

I dont comment very often, but i just wanted to let you know whether i comment or not that i love your videos, and i watch every single one. What about doing these live and having a section at the end where you go over the chat, that way the duscussion includes us too.

[@mathewvanlonden8310]

I would like the what if the nords didn't come idea, though I think The redguards would kindof take over their role

[@idipped2521]

There should be an episode based on what if the Nords never left Atmora. It would have to be a long episode. Like 30 minutes at least

[@goldvivec1344]

@@idipped2521 the nords would become a bunch of human popsicles.

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

Nords have the coolest lore imo. Dunmer is a close second tho.

[@fritzzwicky9380]

Do one on the 36 lessons please!

[@gerbenvanegmond4007]

I never knew the Ice Wraith hunting lore, so it never made sense to me that you have to kill an ice wraith for joining Ulfric. It finally makes sense now though!

[@YummyNukes]

I would love an in depth perspective on the nord's side of the battle of red mountain, because shor apparently had regained his heart for a little while according to them

[@alecneal8335]

As far as Orkey goes, I thought that since Arkay is an elven god that ascended from being an elf that he would hate the Nords and therefore ally with the Orcs and try to undermine Nordic power

[@Lonelywookiee]

Damn, just missed listening this to my morning chores. Lol. Can't wait to listen!

[@RhianKristen]

I would love to see episodes on all the various philosophies across Tamriel, especially on how they interact with each other and affect the wider world. An episode dedicated solely to raw theory would be nice too.

[@captainhawk564]

I like Drew's voice, he could narrate anything and it would make it 100 times better

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

A look at every variation on Nordic religion could be a fun one.

[@rvfiasco]

Nice primer for work. Hairy men and mead!!

[@Mephisto03061989]

love your podcasts, really good material. keep it going guys!

[@Jackie_Shriek]

I know you guys have done more than one elder scrolls 6 video, but I like hearing your guys opinions on what was and what you think should be. I'd like to see more es6 videos talking about skill systems, quest designs, armor and weapons, etc. I think you did one on factions which was cool.

[@JHS270694]

Idk why, but whenever I listen to long podcasts, I usually dream in and out of them, sort of like background noise. With you guys, I just literally sit down at the dinner table, my desk or my bed and just listen throughout the entire thing. I definitely feel a dopamine rush whenever I see a podcast from you guys! Or maybe I'm just a hardcore ES lore nerd. It's the same with Tolkien's books and the Dune series. Said it before and I'll say it again, I can literally listen to you guys for hours. That 5 hour podcast, I'd make time and listen through the whole damn thing! Cheers! I'm definitely interested in the 'clever men' of the Nords, or perhaps a closer look at the Nordic pantheon (minus Alduin) and their worshippers, especially Jhunal, and the general decline of magic with the Nords, and how magic was possibly even practiced with he ancient Nords, the Nordic worshippers of Julianos etc.

[@timecoldslow2950]

53:00- 53:16 you guys forget in the oblivion mages guild (before the college of winterhold in skyrim ) hannibal traven did not tolerate necromancy and banned it which led to some juicy conflict

[@oreoshi6040]

Wow I pressed this immediatly

[@prestonmiller5428]

Same👌

[@_Darzaka]

The Ebonheart Pact on ESO be like "Fus-Ro-ZERG!!!"

[@spartanhuntergaming]

The Nords are the truest warriors

[@imperialcityguard2509]

Michael: 5 hour podcast Me: that's not a threat, that's an offer

[@Weeklong_Seagull]

Yes! Yes! Yes! I've been waiting for a new podcast from you guys, I cant stop, you guys do such a good job, keep it up Been watching since the skyrim builds on xbox, love what you turned the channel into Edit: omg I got a heart from big daddy scrolls himself, praise the ancestors

[@EinFelsbrocken]

Never edit comments just to thank some random online people. You might just end up losing your heart 😁😁

[@Weeklong_Seagull]

@@EinFelsbrocken yea I found that out the hard way

[@planetbob6703]

They had to make Nords anti magic to nerf them. Ancient Nords had the best of both worlds!

[@nicholaskingsley4793]

I'd love some ESO lore and content!

[@Elydir]

Regarding the ancient wooden structures, like Jorvaskr or Dragonsreach, since they've been continualy inhabited the entire time, maybe the people just repaired them over time and replaced the wood? Then of course you could argue that it isn't the original boat, but I mean, you could make the same argument for most of HMS Victory.

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

Even if the Nords never came, the concept of Shezzar was known to the Nedes(because they invented the term/name), and thus Pelinal would have still came to their aid. Here my reasoning. Alessia literally says that she thinks "Freedom" is another name for "Shezzar Who Goes Missing" after conceptualizing what it was to be free before receiving her visions and her rebellion. Shezzar was worshipped by the pre-slavery Proto-Cyrodilic Nedes as a Hero-God that fought the Elves to keep man free. It was only after Shezzar left that the Nedes were subjugated by the Aylieds. Shezzar and the concept of Sezzarine are native to Cyrodil. It doesnt meen that Shezzarines weren't popping up amongst the Nords, Bretons, and Redguard, they jhst wouldnt have called them "Shezzarine" but rather a local name for the same concept, but the Nedes would recognize as such.

[@nidecasunstone479]

Drew made a great point at the beginning of this podcast - Why did the Atmorans come to skyrim? Were they summonened/ invited by the older gods or newer gods?

[@patkidd6489]

Atmore was freezing over to the point it was uninhabitable

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

Atmora didnt completely freeze over till the end of the 2nd era ​@@patkidd6489

[@mirkrahven]

Ah, you have saved my sunday (again)! 😁 Thank you guys!

[@j.troydoe1278]

three reachmen talking about the sons and daughters of skyrim?

[@jacobhewitt2798]

I have a question about Nords, while I've never played shadowkey or arena I've read about the War of Bend'r-Mahk in which the Nords take Jehenna from High Rock and Elinhir and part of Dragonstar from Hammerfell. That's in the late 3rd era and I can't find any information on what happened to these territories after that since nobody seems to mention them in Skyrim and if the Nords still controlled them then I'd expect it to be mentioned, so do you guys or anyone in the comments have any ideas or quotes from the games about what happened? Thanks!

[@CyrodiilCome]

Empire made them give the land back, same thing with the arnesian war between morrowind and argonia where morrowind took a bunch of land from the argonians

[@jacobhewitt2798]

@@CyrodiilCome cool thanks for that! Is it in a book or the end screen for one of the games or something like that?

[@CyrodiilCome]

@@jacobhewitt2798 think a book check the uesp

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

​@jacobhewitt2798 although it's not canon Skyrim: Home of the Nords (a mod for morrowind) is currently set in the reach and parts of the conquered territories (Karthwasten and Dragonstar), Karthgad, and a bunch of Reachmen and orchish settlements. It's also to the standard of of morrowind era lore.

[@jbode5227]

Elder scrolls theory: Do the Giants clubs have antigravity enchantments on them?

[@felinemadness489]

That would be a very violent and nongentle 0 gravity experience .-.

[@LandoRichie]

I was thinking about the theory that the Civil War is what the thalmor want and I kinda agree. That's what anyone would want intentional or unintentional. Like a good game of risk. But the only thing is Nords are fucking determined, ambitious brutes. Their retaliation against the snow elves drove them into near extinction, they won the dragon war, and honestly they are the backbone of the empire. The empire would most likely be nothing without em. So the Nords standing as one in skyrim could definitely kick the thalmors ass not to mention the empire.

[@ClvrBstrd]

Saving this for later

[@TwistedAlphonso1]

38:00 YES! What Scott is saying is WHY Bear War Sleds and Bear this and that is GREAT in Total War Warhammer 3. People expect only horses and humans and guns and spears for Kislev? It's a FANTASY...why not make it fantastical?

[@ssgmeathook8918]

This podcast was jumping all over the place

[@drifindoril1818]

I'm doing my first ever Nord playthrough of Skyrim right now, feels appropriate to play while I listen :D Edit: would definitely love to see an episode just about the voice!

[@billygrider24]

What if the green banner is discolored because it was only just made before the dwemer disappeared and they hadn't had a chance to make it immune to the effects of time, leaving this lone surviving unblessed banner... or maybe its just a cheap falmer knockoff

[@Link-we8so]

I like the idea of what if Nords never came. Also what happens to the Nords after the events of Skyrim? Let's say they fall as the dragonborn is in tentacle land... does shor and all the warriors hes gathered save them? Thanks for the content!

[@sanguis9151]

Rise Nords remembere the glory of the past, return to the time of the dragon Wulfharth. Drive out outsiders who would have you cast out honor and glory for a moments peace, return to the call of the storm crown who is the chosen of dreaming Shor. Death to the Elves, death to the Empire, the time of Men will never end!

[@ethanbest9110]

Weird how much Nord mythology mirrors Egyptian mythology.

[@spicytriangle4656]

Best part of my week is when this video drops. Cheers again boys Edit: I would love a 5 hour podcast lads don’t taunt me 😂

[@theflood24]

This channel gonna explode like crazy with ES6. Crazy how one game can be worth more than 10 years of content.

[@michaelrobb9542]

I would like to hear a you guys discuss an ideal version of Skyrim. You could approach it from game play, lore and world building perspectives. Cause I agree with the point about real world feasibility had a negative impact on Skyrim.

[@markuswelander8551]

There should be an episode rating fun Elder Scrolls memes.

[@MrLightstudios]

Completely disagree about the dragons in Skyrim, the dragons were epic, it was the most awesome thing every time you found another dragon. The fact I could just see a random dragon fly overhead at any time, or end up fighting one at any moment even when I'm in the middle of a fight with something else. That's the sort of thing that makes Skyrim work so well.

[@maggotofslipknot2926]

A podcast about Partthurnax would be interesting talking about if he's good or wanted Alduin outta the way so he can be in power

[@DRPBEATZ618]

Im buying some merch in two weeks when I get paid i watch your podcast every night you guys take away my suicidal thoughts,my anger it all just goes away thank you 😊 of course it comes back in the morning but that's not the point.

[@billyjepson313]

I wish the best for you. The way you feel is real and its horrible but when its raining in your head the bad weather will pass, you don't have control of when, but there will be good weather again. carry on day by day and at some point you'll notice that the days being just a bit easier to deal with 😊

[@tt_dynomite]

Scott: "Barbarians can't really compete with advance technology" German Barbarians that brought the most influential empire (Rome) of all time to its knees even tho they were less advanced and were less organized: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@ammoniakkoi-karpfen9039]

To be fair what really brought down the roman empire was infighting and limits of organizational means due to its sheer massive size. The loss at the teuteburger forest was just a symptom of the overarching problem.

[@barkasz6066]

The Huns did the groundwork for them.

[@tt_dynomite]

@@barkasz6066 Debating that point aside still by Roman standards of the time the Huns were considered barbarians if not nearly as underdeveloped.

[@cas9286]

is there discussion of the nords’ love for wasabi in this?

[@JewishBanker420]

I believe that Es6 is gonna be a combination of everything we've seen and heard and then some with a bit of final fantasy and world of warcraft, lost ark, new world kinda games

[@Dr.RojoMcDelly]

I hate to beat a dead horse but we need another build soon!! More with enaisions mods! I current have them all downloaded for a fully revamped Skyrim gameplay wise

[@0code.sibriex357]

Tsun God of guard duty 🤣

[@95Bartlett]

I think the reason why the Nordic religion was watered was to give the Civil War an easy digestible cause for players. The preferred setting imo would be the Western holds being more imperialized and the Eastern holds being more Nordic, the issue that arises is why would the Eastern Nords be more pissed off about the Talos ban than the Western holds? We could probably come up with in universe explanations for why that would be but Bethesda wanted any player to be able to understand the Civil War regardless of their previous experience with the franchise and its lore. I do think they could have thought of ways around this issue and I think the simplest solution would to just be to add some lore that in the 3rd era the Nords of Skyrim adopted Talos as part of the Nordic pantheon and Talos could be sort of a unifying religious figure between the imperialized western Nords and the more traditional eastern Nords and is why these two different religions in Skyrim are able to tolerate each other. A bit of a side note, but I think "loan-god" just means that Orkey is an amalgam of all foreign gods that the Nords fight, which is why he's "borrowed" and not Nordic in origin. The reason he is related to Malacath is due to the Nords warring with Orcs and High Elves (Malacath used to be Trinimac). And the reason Orkey is the representation of foreign adversaries and the god of death is due to the Nords warlike nature, most Nords who die are going to die fighting their enemies aka people who Orkey represents. And keep up the good work guys!!!

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

Talos is apart of the Nordic pantheon in 3rd era. He's known as Ysmir

[@colbybrown5333]

First time watching this podcast. Just wanted to say that Scott looks EXACTLY how he sounds.

[@Spike2276]

Low key i think Bethesda is going to find a way to bring back the old Nordic pantheon, like the Stormcloaks winning and Ulfric re-instating the old faith or something In the 10 years since Skyrim i've seen way too many people say they would like the old Nordic pantheon to be popular in-game

[@JHP2001]

The Nords are easily the best Race beside Bretons. The have access to enchanted weapons and armor from the college, the have the fleet from Windhelm to set sail with marines, the have their heros and dragonborn, and they have Eorland Gray-Mane smithing them the best steel in Nirn. I would have loved to see Nordic carved weapons and armor be mainstream for civilians and everyone, that is their current historical armor.

[@majorpest4894]

A podcast going over the nord invasions when they built their empire if there is enough info there for a podcast

[@leafalsa7926]

Michael lifted his arms up and I didnt realize that he was shredded

[@chrisvandergriff504]

Can Drew whisper Mephala's dark secrets to me as I drift off to sleep? Thanks.

[@TheOneMillionthRoger]

It always comes back to ES6 discussion

[@hampusgranberg6382]

You guys really point out the reason I still love Morrowind the best. Don't get me wrong, Skyrim and Oblivion were fine games, and I played them for hundreds of hours, but the magic, mystique, depth, epicness, strangeness, and on and so forth, is what I loved about Morrowind, and why I keep coming back to it. This deep and profound, rather thought-provoking lore of creation, Almsivi, the betrayal of Nervarine and Dagoth Urs origin and motives, the Dunmer's Origins, traditions and cermonies, everything is so complex yet fresh, and most of it you have to dig for to get there. It's a game that just keeps on giving everytime you play it, whereas Skyrim and Oblivion are much more streamlined, almost to the point that there's no reason to explore for anything but epic loot, which is nice, but putting it in context, and filling the world with these dualities and philosophies is exactly why Morrowind still reigns supreme. Then again, the reason why Skyrim sells is because of the streamlining, which wasn't a bad move on Bethesda's part, but it did sacrifice a lot of the things that made Elder Scrolls so darn interesting.

[@emilybroderick2421]

I know it's not the series canon or anything, but I'd like to know what you guys think of the Vigilant-Glenmoril-Unslaad mod trilogy and how it plays with and expands upon the Deep LoreTM of the universe.