Long term you go with Planet for the reliability. I have so many old PE guns that are easily 10 to 15 years each and other than some O rings you swap out from time to time, they run flawlessly. The Shockers also don't hold their values at all. Amps are selling in the 400s online right now in Facebook BSTs. The Era will be in the same boat in a year or more. It's your money but mine goes with reliability and resale all day long.
@domeniccarano453710 ай бұрын
Doug can’t hide his bias. He should at least try for these vids. He states that the programming on the Era is better, then in the next breath admits to not knowing anything about the 180r programming.
@BAGofTALENT10 ай бұрын
Only thing " mid range " about these guns is price. They easily perform exactly the same as their "higher " end counterparts . These are high end guns, I believe a true " mid range " gun is a Etha 3 and low end would be empire mini.
@409novaman10 ай бұрын
Great comparison, best PB channel on KZbin.
@_Jose_a_Ortiz10 ай бұрын
I support PE due to the fact of reliability. However nowadays most markers are very reliable
@Jarandjar10 ай бұрын
Yeah idk about a reliability comparison between a shocker and a planet eclipse marker.
@BAGofTALENT10 ай бұрын
For the money the 180 is the best gun on the market, you get everything the CS 3 has except tooless grips for $500-600 less . Planet is the undefeated champion
@sethcianfoni5 ай бұрын
Start a fight do whatever you want lol - I am just now getting into paintball and I see you guys out here grinding. Keep it up!
@damianculley6710 ай бұрын
One note on the barrel comparison....the back that is found on the CS3 & LV2 will fit the front on the 180R if you want something more aesthetically pleasing and it has the rubber grip for the thumb over guys. I think PE beat out the new freak. Just my .02.
@Hkarmy557 ай бұрын
I’m from pa and that’s where shockers/luxs is from. So this was during 2021…my buddy had a brand new shocker amp and it came with the Oled board failed and wouldn’t turn on. He reach out to them and there was a tech whom always played at the field we went too. He blew him off. I also had issue with my shocker with it constantly leaking after shooting a pod or 2 during a match. We played with guys who worked with the company and they refused to help me fix the issue or event tried. After that I left the shocker in the dust and went with a geo 4 just go with PE. PE has been around consistently without shutting there doors off n on through the years. My second buy would be DSR+. Hell I’d take a axe 2.0 with a redline board over a shocker. I feel for a 500 gun the AXE is a better quality gun than your shocker.
@dillonkoss6121Ай бұрын
Your absolutely crazy lol
@somebrains543110 ай бұрын
Doug also loves the short chubbies. Someone needs to make him a shubbies tshirt.
@douglamont613410 ай бұрын
What 😂
@reedwetzel1324Ай бұрын
As someone who had empire markers and shocker and planet. I loved my shocker rsx and vanquishs but if i had a problem. Planet techs where at my events and not empire techs and empire had closer corporate location then planet eclipse. So i switched to all planet eclipse markers
@awol1019910 ай бұрын
I guess the better question would be, value set aside, which one do you guys like better? I honestly believe a lot of these features are a wash or are very similar, but some things that are completely distinguishable is shot quality, feel, ergonomics overall preference. You both really seem to like how the Era shot over the 180r is that “better” shot worth the $100 less
@JP-om3ou5 ай бұрын
They liked the shot quality of era, complete package they like 180.
@dabzpaintball4478Ай бұрын
I'm gonna let you know right now. The shockers are harder to work on. Because the o-rings are more trickier than other guns. Like dye in Planet Eclipse, dye has color-coded oring . Pe is pretty much simple. Don't know why but for some reason, shocker's clear oring's are harder to work on. Or find I feel like The Shocker is also more touchy, especially.
@Keenjowey6 ай бұрын
What about accuracy consistency? Did I miss that part, I heard shot quality but which one am I going to melt ppl with on tight shots?
@TheDuke-n7o10 ай бұрын
Im taking the 180r 10 out of 10 times… my kid says its better than my CS3 and i have to unfortunately agree with him. He was hitting me from the other side of the field. The 180r is a budget CS3.
@catfat3759 ай бұрын
You guys stay rocking
@Jolivera61110 ай бұрын
I have been a Shocker fan since the late 90s I will be asking Santa for a new ERA for Christmas.
@roberthguysky972010 ай бұрын
Who else is hoping the amp drops to $600 now? Exactly how I got my old NXT. Was $700 or more forever, then when it became $600 I pulled the trigger (and still use it today).
@fredybeans243310 ай бұрын
You can easily find amps for 400 to 500 bucks on the used mar
@JWbabyshark6 ай бұрын
What hoppers are you using on these markers?
@Pwntious8 ай бұрын
Dude on the left looks like Jim Gaffagain.
@l3burritos10 ай бұрын
I really want to see the era vs the cs3 most likely without a doubt the cs3 will win but I want to see the shot quality difference between the two
@two-bit4636 ай бұрын
Well I am a big fan of Planet Eclipse and their markers. I just bought the Shocker ERA and it's the same model as the one in this video I think they call it white and black or PURE. I freaking love that ERA it's rocks ! It basically has the same trigger as the LUXE IDOL. It's smooth as butter. Plus the 15 inch FREAK XL barrel is on point every time. Not taking anything away from PE ok plus I believe the ETHA3 is better than the 180R. Thanks for the video fellas
@JP-om3ou5 ай бұрын
How is the etha better? I mean it’s the same engine but def doesn’t feel the same in hand
@trakfloater0710 ай бұрын
Joel saying maintenance is a wash is 100% false. If a 180r breaks, I have the best manual to look at and use to service. Along with parts kit that has exactly every oring labeled. For everyone that is not a master tech the 180r wins maintenance and it’s not even close.
@roberthguysky972010 ай бұрын
Shockers have always had great manuals. You clearly have never owned one, and I have never owned a PE marker. Which is why I wouldn’t comment one way or another. A mistake you clearly made.
@rmsfootball635 ай бұрын
Nah shockers break like a mf
@Twigz113 ай бұрын
@@roberthguysky9720I can’t even get a pdf of the ERA manual on their website. The manuals for the amp, rsx and xls are available though. As someone interested in the ERA I would like to read it. That’s a bit concerning considering it’s been out for some time now.
@zerofox296710 ай бұрын
Do a Amp vs Era video
@liquidss377910 ай бұрын
fuck the shocker amp, its hot garbage
@liquidss377910 ай бұрын
the era fixed all the issues that the amp had
@zerofox296710 ай бұрын
@@liquidss3779 I would like to see a side by side comparison and shooting video.
@erfrench8710 ай бұрын
PE all day!
@KERTER2110 ай бұрын
Excellent.. thanks I think you need three people doing the review so there are no ties
@bigeclipse7188 ай бұрын
I just wish the Era didn't look so boring. I understand it's supposed to be a throwback but I feel my nxt even looks better.
@DREKOWICK692 ай бұрын
why does that one guy hate planet eclipse?
@DREKOWICK692 ай бұрын
I just bought the 190r and laughing at these fools
@calebbrown29838 ай бұрын
I can’t get over how awful the era feels to hold. I heard someone shooting it recently and just thought it was so cool, it sounds amazing, but it felt like I was holding a toothbrush. Utterly stupid ergonomic design, nobody’s hands are shaped like that. Maybe little kids. My etha 3 m is so much more comfortable that I feel like I can play better with that even though I get 5-6 bps max.
@calebbrown29838 ай бұрын
And to add to that, it’s not just because of the size of the foregrip. The shape is just bad. There are examples of good foregrips that are small, the nova n3 is the first that comes to mind. My first gun ever, a tippman a5, is more comfortable, and that thing is a $200 5 pound, ear-destroying, paint tenderizer.
@JP-om3ou6 ай бұрын
Specifically what’s bad? Just the foregrip?
@Tampa_tom10 ай бұрын
Sus intro
@williamduckworth30510 ай бұрын
Dsr is still the king...
@BAGofTALENT10 ай бұрын
😂 king of the runner ups , the 180 takes a massive dump on the DSR
@williamduckworth30510 ай бұрын
@BAGofTALENT dang im sorry......not...they are all good guns