Full Disclosure: What is Going on With ENTTEC DMXis and EMU?

[@liza71234]

I love DMXIS too...been using it with Max/MSP for years. Enttec is an Australian company, so they are probably taking a huge hit right now with what's going on over there. Hope to see the DMXIS box back on the market in the near future.

[@LearnStageLighting]

It's not going to be, their EMU software (which is a newer, slightly upgraded version of DMXis) will be the future :) There will be an EMU box, which looks a lot like the DMXis box, but is going to have a few upgrades too :)

[@GooseTheDrummer]

Been using DMXis for years via the VST plugin in Ableton. Stoked about this, hoping the pricing won't be brutal. Super helpful video, thanks!

[@LearnStageLighting]

I would doubt any "brutal" pricing, but we honestly don't know!

[@jackthemurray]

Answered so many questions. Exactly what I needed. Thank you!

[@LearnStageLighting]

Glad it was helpful!

[@felixbayley-higgins68]

Any chance of making this trade up offer work for someone in the UK?

[@LearnStageLighting]

Ask ENTTEC UK! I can't export to the UK and make it work financially - as it is with the US, I barely do more than break-even on this deal.

[@BryanPage]

Yes that would be cool. I’m just thinking about getting into this, so I’ll either hold out for a bit or get the existing hardware and hope for a UK trade up offer.

[@spookynickname]

I'm really glad I saw this video. Show Buddy Active has started crashing Logic every time I try to load it as an AU, so knowing there's a very similar piece of software that works with the DMXIS box is extremely helpful. thanks!

[@db-audioware]

This Show Buddy Active AU/VST bug (which affects macOS only) will be fixed in a priority software patch, available for download from dmxis.com - just as soon as I've finished testing it :)

[@spookynickname]

Thanks! My first hour trying to get EMU to correctly respond to MIDI has had a roughly 10% success rate. So, still very beta that bit of software :)

[@LearnStageLighting]

Interesting, it's been working well for others users and myself. Be sure to report this on their forums, they've been good at fixing other bugs pretty quickly

[@jmillermusic8215]

What is your recommended software for automating lights from Logic Pro on stage? DMXIS looked to be exactly what my band needed to get into lighting but I also noticed the lack of stock. EMU looks great, but Logic can't work with VST's to my knowledge, right? This video was super timely and it's great to know the details of what's up with Enttec.

[@LearnStageLighting]

You can send EMU MIDI from Logic to trigger the scenes. That's how Logic users have worked with DMXis for a long time :)

[@guy539]

@@LearnStageLighting is there a video on how to do this?

[@benveasey7474]

What's the best/most compatible software for interacting/creating DMX driven scenes in Unreal Engine (chases etc.)?

[@LearnStageLighting]

At the end of the day, DMX is DMX, so any console that can send networked DMX will work. DMXis can work, EMU can work, and there are many others, depending on what your needs are for what you are controlling inside Untreal engine.

[@benveasey7474]

@@LearnStageLighting thank you for your reply. Choreographed water features with lights are what I need to control in Unreal (and eventually the real world too)

[@wearetheflesh9937]

hi there David , i have the dmxis plug in wich i want to use with logic but i dont hace the dmxis box , do you know if the dmx usb pro box will work in the same way as the dmxis box ??? that will be the perfect solution for my coming show !!! tnx

[@LearnStageLighting]

Yes

[@musecycle]

TY for the video. I'm using Dmxis as a vst to program my lights. Is there significant reason to switch from DMXIS to EMU now? What are the pros and cons?

[@joeruder]

Hello! Thank you for the video, it sounds like you are saying that the DMXIS blue adapter that you hold up will work with EMU? I have not been able to get that working and wondering if I am not understanding what you said correctly.

[@joeruder]

Update! I went to the EMU / Enttec site and registered my (very old) DMXIS hardware. They provided a 1year license and after restarting everything it is finding it now and working! Interesting that it did not work with it in 'free' mode, it is possible that I did something wrong as well. Now just have to learn how to create fixtures as most of mine are 'off brand' fixtures that don't match up with existing patches.

[@musicandres]

@@joeruder Hi Joe, i can´t find how do i get the registration of my dmxis on enttec site, can you put the link, thanksss

[@guy539]

Can I run backing track in any of these softwares?

[@RevelationsStudio]

I'm finally getting into lighting thanks to this channel! What is the current recommendation for programing midi in reaper(or any DAW) and have it play back a lightshow along with out backing tracks? So far I'm considering the ENTTEC open dmx usb 512-ch non-isolated and using a VST to program midi notes to sync with our backing tracks.

[@leonelrojas1516]

It sucks that DMXis is discontinued. i was going to download Emu and give it a try with my DMXis box that is a dmx/usb but i read it doesnt work unless its Enttec's USB PRO or ODE. DMXis is great software for people like me that are starting with lights.

[@LearnStageLighting]

Not true, the dmxis box does work with emu! :)

[@leonelrojas1516]

@@LearnStageLighting REALLY?? im gonna give it a try to see how it works. Thanks David!!!

[@LearnStageLighting]

It does, I've tested it

[@christopherforce6542]

@@LearnStageLighting this was the answer I was looking for! Thank you!

[@ashcome]

thank you 🔥is EMU works with DMXIS ?

[@LearnStageLighting]

Yes, the DMXis box works with EMU. When they do come out with EMU pricing, I am hoping/asking for a special price for DMXis users.

[@davidkolbasky8066]

Can Show Buddy or Emu be used with Logic Pro X as far is recording midi notes for backing tracked synced light show?

[@seanARNG]

Looks like they've updated quite a few things to Show Buddy since this video. Looks like VST and support and a whole lot more?

[@raphaelsimard788]

things do not seem better as of 20/06/22 - almost one year later - its not even clear if it will stop working all of a sudden when (...) Also still riddle with functionnal bugs, like when clicking one fader in some way the enter value box will open by itself, stopping me from manually adjusting the fader. Also, you need to click inside the value box in order to type in some value. I mean, come on, if the goal of this pop-up box is to help enter a precise value quickly, AT LEAST make it that we can already type in some value without having to click inside the box. It'S a real hassle

[@davedreher9254]

I'm going to hang on to my DMXIS Box and software until it stops working. I have it installed on a couple of laptops for backups using the code for the same box.

[@guy539]

Do you use it with ableton or logic?

[@davedreher9254]

@@guy539 Nope, Just put scenes on rotation if no one to run it.

[@NebMotion]

thank you for breaking this down, I went to install DMXIS on my new PC and was surprised to see it's been discontinued. I am a bit disappointed by this, would have been nice to just have an update to DMXIS rather than Emu, I don't need anything fancy. Hoping the pricing isn't too bad once i inevitably hit an issue with new operating systems.

[@LearnStageLighting]

It is sad, but all good things eventually come to an end. Waiting on that pricing!

[@josephturner4849]

Do you know if they are closer to having the EMU USB hardware available?

[@LearnStageLighting]

No update yet :(

[@studieforbundetbildasydost5079]

Hi David! I just watched your video! I have been using Dmxis with my band for years now and i really love it! With your videos on how to get started we were of in just hours creating our on shows!! I have been looking for a replacement for dmxis as it's getting older by the dat and I don't know how much longer I can use it befor it's out of support. Emu sound cool. Do you know if you can control global settings. I really missed that feature in dmxis. let's say that you want to control the Dimmer of your front lights. your made like 130presets for a show indoors where the dimmer is at 45% and now you want to take it outdoors or a bigger stage where you need to crank it up to lets say 85%. In dmxis I have to go into every preset to make that change. Do you know if this problem is solved in the EMU ? Best Regards Johan

[@boristubeti6776]

I was going to buy DMXis to use it for my backing tracks in FL studio. What replacement would you recommend? Thank you 🙏🏻 Fav lighting channel♥️

[@LearnStageLighting]

EMU is really the best option for simple control. If you use Mac's, you may also look at LightKey.

[@boristubeti6776]

@@LearnStageLighting will it work with a daslight interface or would I have to buy the enttec one? Thank you 🙏🏻

[@alexc2234]

Awesome video!!! Super helpful for a newbie like me. Totally lost me around 15m with EMU. It looks overly complicated. Would you say its worth it to just find an old DMXIS interface and dl the software. Having to pay forever to use software is undesirable. Not sure what direction to go to create a midi track to control lights.

[@rossmurakami]

I'm in the same boat! What did you end up doing?

[@alexc2234]

@@rossmurakami I am still trying to figure it out but have been researching QLC+ software.

[@alamakluke]

Will my DMXIS USB box work with EMU now and in the future? I am a little confused right now. Thanks in advance.

[@LearnStageLighting]

It will work now, should work in the future. The only potential change is that when the EMU box comes out (date: unknown), the software will switch to a subscription purchase, but now I am also getting word that there may be a free version. It's not totally determined yet, so we're doing the best we can with the knowledge we have!

[@musicadesilva]

Hi David! No news on the EMU box yet? I'm wondering if I should just try the Enttec USB pro or just wait a little longer in case de EMU box turns out to be a game-changer

[@LearnStageLighting]

The current news is that it's going to be awhile to we see a box. For now, the best bet is to use the USB Pro....I wish I had more to share, but not yet :)

[@glenconlon9697]

Can I download EMU onto more than one device? I have bought the Enttec DMX USB Pro Mk2 so should have free access to EMU - correct? So can I then download to a laptop and also a tablet and switch between the two using the Pro Mk2? TIA

[@LearnStageLighting]

Emu is free for everyone right now. Yes, you can have it in multiple devices and transfer your file back and forth

[@LittleFjords]

I bought an Enttec USB Mkii a few months ago for some of the reasons you pointed out here (DMXIS not being updated). Link says I need to buy a new one to be eligible for the trade-in?? Any way I can piggyback onto the trade-in? I have original packaging etc and the device is kept immaculate

[@LearnStageLighting]

Shoot me an email - [e-mail] , I should be able to offer you partial credit for it when the EMU box comes out. Part of what makes the program work is that I make the sale on both the initial USB-Pro AND the EMU box, so it helps me eat the cost of the DMX-USB so I should come close to breaking even in the end :)

[@mrmcrobbkdc4001]

Have Enttec or Dave officially said that D-Pro is officially not going to be developed any more? I only bought it a year ago to go with the DMXIS box, I can’t help but to feel somewhat ripped off. I have mostly got it to do what I need it to do, though it does exhibit some odd behaviour from time to time.

[@LearnStageLighting]

No official word on D-Pro, but I stopped covering it about 2 years ago as it's gotten behind in development compared to similar software packages.

[@toddmoore9138]

Hi David. I have 100 DMXis banks each with 10-20 presets programmed and MIDI mapped from Ableton to play in sequence with the 100 songs I perform. This programming represents maybe 300 hours in total work. Is there a way to transfer this work I have done in terms of banks and presets from DMXis into EMU? Thank you.

[@petermalinchock8632]

One question that I did not see answered in this video and maybe it's in another video is 1. Does EMU interact well with Show Buddy? 2. Is Enttec is coming out with an alternative to Show Buddy?

[@LearnStageLighting]

1. I don't think so, definitely not as seamlessly as DMXis (you could use MIDI output from Showbuddy, but not the pick-n-choose functionality) 2. I don't think so. I've since found "LiveTraker" and it seems to do the job well

[@petermalinchock8632]

@@LearnStageLighting Thank you so much for that info. I was getting ready to buy show buddy but now that I know it won't work with EMU that's a game changer. And I don't want to buy DMXIS if its discontinued. So if I could ask one more question do you think that EMU and Live Traker is the go to software for a solo artist like myself who wants to have automated lighting to backing tracks? Or is there a much better alternative? I am not an absolute beginner I am just moderately knowledgeable when it comes to stage lighting that includes moving heads.

[@guy539]

@@petermalinchock8632 are you using logic or ableton? I’m trying to figure out what works for logic

[@Woolookologie]

What a bummer, I bought a new Enntec USB Pro literally just a few days ago and started researching how to integrate it into music software now - I wish I would have seen this video before and get your amazing trade-in-deal! I'm a musician and have some important stuff featuring a synced lightshow coming up and now I'm really torn wether to start using EMU while having no idea how much it will cost me in the end or get something like Showsync Beam (integrates into Ableton Live directly), where I have a clear pricetag - 199€ in this case. Still, thank you for making this video! Makes everything more clear already...

[@LearnStageLighting]

No worries, and it looks like you're outside of the US anyways, and my program is US-only. Thanks!

[@Bezmont]

Really a bummer that emu ended up being subscription based. I just can't justify paying a subscription. I would gladly pay more to actually own it. :(

[@mitchscholsvancouver]

They never came out with both options?

[@Bezmont]

@@mitchscholsvancouver ended up going all in on QLC+.

[@chekista91]

thank u for amazing videos just bought dmx usb pro mk2 can u please recommend software for lighning up bands and dj-s I'm looking forward to buy lightkey from the link which u have in description on your channel thank u in advance p.s going to use akai apc 40 (bought it specially for light controll )

[@LearnStageLighting]

Lightkey is a good fit for many, I would use that if it appeals to you!

[@MyDiscoverChurch]

Love the videos. My church is doing a big upgrade in lights right now (big for us). We have been running dmxis for a few years and like it, but we are adding about 30 new fixtures (both led and traditional). Would like to upgrade without breaking the bank. Was thinking about d-pro because we can still use the dmxis box and we run macs. Is that what you would do or is there something else we should look at?

[@LearnStageLighting]

I do not recommend D-Pro anymore. I would look at Lightkey or LightShark

[@JivRey]

Do you know if there going to be some kind of crossgrades for DMXIS' users? Of course I'd like to do the switch to EMU, I love the way it displays your lights in blocks, very convenient. I have the normal USB DMXIS blue box, and I love it.

[@LearnStageLighting]

I've asked, and I haven't gotten a solid answer yet. I will keep asking and will post an update KZbin video as we get closer.

[@stevieswoodandthings3329]

Just an update on EMU David.I feel it is totally unusable as it is always crashing and is unstable. Over the last 8 months there have been countless firmware updates and everyone of these has been to address a crash log. There has been no improvements whatsoever and the constant stream of updates for crashes is endless. I just don’t trust it for gigs where people are paying a lot of money. What would you recommend as an alternative. Running 24 fixtures through windows 11 with Reaper Daw driving through midi. Would love console as I can trust it but programs/scenes must be able to be driven from midi and can’t cost more than £1000. Thank you

[@badgetwoten]

I just found out about DMXIS and am so grateful you made this video. I understand the EMU box is their future and the programmer has his own updated software. Are there any solutions for someone looking for the same tech without the specific DMXIS box? They're not available anywhere, even used, that I can source and doesn't sound like the EMU is coming out very soon? We're trying to light our stage in sync with our backing tracks. Are there any other boxes capable of the DMX/USB conversion?

[@LearnStageLighting]

Yes, the ENTTEC DMX-USB Pro. See the link in the description, if you are in the US I am offering a "trade-up" program where you can buy a DMX-USB Pro and then later have the option to trade it back in for a full credit towards an EMU box. EMU boxes look like they will arrive in early 2022, but with the chip shortage that could change.

[@guy539]

Does the usb pro work with logic?

[@guy539]

Are you using logic ?

[@robneal6476]

Just a point of note, I bought the Enttec USB Pro MkII and it's next to useless because some idiot decided to use pony micro USB connectors that fail constantly. It needs a proper USB 'B' connector. Until they do that I would avoid it. Also, Obsidian Onyx specifically blocks the device.

[@LearnStageLighting]

Yes, I'm not a huge fan of the MKii either, but that also is not what I'm talking about in this video. And the ONYX block on the Enttec USB devices is more about driver compatibility, you should be able to technically use them if you also run their Pro Manager software which can accept Art-Net and send it out the USB

[@henriquemiranda5748]

@@LearnStageLighting do you know of any other usb to dmx interface that can do what the enttec can, to convert artnet to usb dmx, any other interfaces that can do that?

[@MeinVideoStudio]

Lumidmx is the Same thing. They shut it Down At 2012 and OpenFX depence2 which is a 2000€ softwareXD

[@elliottdean9536]

but this video is super helpful, thanks for the info lol

[@joeyzbf2]

Great video but I do not like where this is going with EMU paying subscription to lease software. Paying subscription to lease software holds customers at hostage. I’m not paying for the software over and over again and make entec filthy rich 🤑 I will move on to another software and toss everything entec in the trash.

[@LearnStageLighting]

FYI, they are still leaving the option open for a 1-time payment - if you buy the EMU box when it comes out, you will NOT pay a subscription cost for the software. It's if you use another box to get your DMX out that you will have to pay for it on subscription.

[@alexblackngrey]

I hope the get a hardware bounded software license or i didnt buy enttec and need a other brand, i dont pay a time bounded subscription

[@LearnStageLighting]

They will, we're just waiting on a release date and pricing.

[@patrickmckiernan2742]

$99/yr? Forever? Nope.

[@spx01x]

How can you seriously recommend Emu over DMXIS or Showbuddy Active in the absence of channel masking? This alone makes it vastly inferior and less professional, as I am sure you must know. On top of which they release it as a subscription, still with no sign of the long awaited 'Emu buy outright box' they promised three years ago. Then your video pops up on Enttec's sites as a promo? Hmmm. How is it spelt? Shill? Dissapointing.

[@BoWeber]

bro just get to the point lol

[@gabrielescalera4284]

Hi, thanks for this video. I have some questions, but I don't see a way to reach to you from your website. do you have an email by chance?