Full Flight - Hawaiian Airlines - Boeing 717-22A - ITO-HNL - N476HA - HA371 - IFS Ep. 443

[@Tomk916]

First plane I ever been on was an AirTran 717, that engine sound never gets old.

[@sla31]

It will be sad day when the 717 is gone from the sky. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@incheon]

Fantastic! I wish more airlines flew the 717.

[@UrLocalFriend_2024]

The Hawaiian Airlines 717 will never get old ever since I flown on this plane it was a miracle I love this plane ever since when I was a child this plane will never get old hopefully this plane can take me to all my favorite airport Honolulu international airport😎😎😎😎😎

[@sunbulah9779]

I personally love empennage mounted engines over wings mounted engines

[@SuperBiglou71]

oh how i mss that sound of the rolls royce engines…thank you airtran for giving me the opportunity to work for you….HA enjoy the 717 its a great aircraft!! felt like i was sitting 28E on my way back from ATL to MCO after training or meeting in ATL!!!

[@kristensorensen2219]

We used to fly Hawiian Air back when they flew DC-9s. It is a shame most of the amazing T tail airliners are gone. I passed the FEX FAA written for the B-727 engineer license. ERAU 80 CFIA&I ret.

[@Winst3n]

Starting at 1:45 I don’t know what that sound is, but I love it!

[@kirkzevola5004]

Awesome Trip Report on B717-200 N476HA

[@PlymouthNeon]

Love that APU sound! Also a shame that Aloha Airlines didn't rotate their 737NG's between inter island and the mainland like Southwest to solve the engine overheating issues with the continuous short flights between the islands.

[@poppiarlin5612]

Very interesting comment. I wasn’t aware of the overheating issue. Could you take time to elaborate?

[@dynasty0019]

@@poppiarlin5612 Modern engines like the CFM-56, burn hotter to increase fuel efficiency and takes longer to cool down after flights than old first generation engines like the JT8D. Aloha Airlines ordered 737 Classics and NG's to replace their 732's in the 90's and 2000's, but the -300's and -700's had trouble with engine cool downs during inter-island flights. So Aloha ended up had to keep the -200's, which increased fuel and maintenance costs, and was one of the reasons the airline later folded.

[@lagunsmoose]

Wow, that's some cool knowledge! Thanks for this, never heard it before, but makes sense.

[@BeckerAviation]

Absolutely stunning! The approach was superb

[@sla31]

Glad you enjoy it my friend! Thanks for watching!

[@joshsaviation5794]

Great takeoff!

[@zerberus500]

BREATHTAKING views on approach and taxiing to the Gate!👏😎👍👍👍

[@sla31]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@EVELYNEMIL]

Absolutely phenomenal!!.

[@deplorableaussie6749]

Nice footage! 👍

[@firststatetate]

I love short approaches like that. Great flight.

[@sla31]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching my friend!

[@HereforaMoment]

Yes that was a really cool approach

[@toyotacamry4564]

I been on the boeing 717 - 2BD when I was visting hawaii 2 years ago the engine *rolls royce 2RBs nevr get old*

[@kathrin-mariasamarrastehle6538]

Awesome Wiew from the plane from above.

[@sla31]

Thanks for watching my friend!

[@kathrin-mariasamarrastehle6538]

@@sla31 LIke wise can you do with the paris aerport take off and landing it's would be so great.

[@eliteclassicdetailing]

Very nice landing.

[@Brock..]

I convinced my guardians to let me fly an inter-island Hawaiian 717! I’m so excited! Glad to see you are still putting out amazing content!

[@sla31]

Thanks my friend. I appreciate that. Have fun on those inter island flights!

[@Ms11565]

Imagine taking a Douglas DC-6B on this same route. Flight time was just over an hour. Hawaiian retired its DC-6Bs before I was able to be on a flight.

[@BigSpudz]

I'm 35 Years old and I have been a Plane Enthusiast ALL of My Life, However it was only about 2 Years ago that I found out that there was a Boeing 717. I Got into the Love of Planes when I was younger through My Father taking Me Plane Spotting All around the UK's most Biggest and Busyist Airports Plus Museums and I Don't think My Dad was even aware of a Boeing 717 as I Don't think there are Many of them here in the UK.

[@sla31]

You'd be correct. I don't think many 717's ever graced the skies of the UK. Volotea, which I believe is/was a Spanish carrier operated some for awhile. Also, Blue1, a Finnish airline also operated some for awhile, but now you can only find them flying actively in the US, and Australia. I believe Qantas, Delta, and Hawaiian are the only carriers still flying them now. A bit of a history without blabbering on forever. The 717 was originally designed by McDonnell Douglas as the MD-95, but ended up going into production as the 717-200 when Boeing and McDonnell Douglas merged during the final stages of the aircraft's development. This makes the 717 the last true McDonnell Douglas designed aircraft to still fly regularly scheduled passenger service, as the MD-80's are all but gone, and Delta Air Lines flew the last ever MD-90 flight last year. You can actually find that flight on my channel.

[@BigSpudz]

@@sla31 Thank You for that information very Interesting. Now I know why I've Never seen a Boeing 717. I do remember the MD-83 It was the First ever Plane I went on, Flew by Airtours back in the 90's and 2 weeks after I had been on The MD-83 The very same Plane Crash Landed at Manchester Airport as the Front Under carriage Collapsed on landing and I remember when I was on it and when we Landed the Plane came down with such a Bang but it was my first ever Plane ride so I thought it was normal landing at the time plus I was about 10/11 at the time. It was nice Speaking to you and thanks for the reply. Much Respect from Birmingham UK.

[@QuickBurn70]

First time I've seen that kind of approach to 8L. I thought for sure you were going for 4R, but then you passed the reef runway and I had to think again lol

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

Very typical that they run that short approach on the 8L visual, traffic permitting.

[@sla31]

I too thought we were going for 4R at first. I've seen this approach from the terminals before, and I think I even have an old video on another flight with this same approach, but it was definitely fun flying it again. I've been on a lot of 717 flights into HNL, and haven't gotten this approach very often.

[@HereforaMoment]

Yeah that was a really cool approach.

[@SYDAirlineEnthusiast]

4R is rare to land on. 8L is the most common runway to land on.

[@wolterhaverhals8368]

What a fun approach

[@sla31]

Sometimes those Hawaiian 717 pilots love to show off!

[@anujdhamija1716]

nice view ,by the engine

[@planesofhawaii]

ah my favorite 717-200

[@epopchock]

Great video and engine sound!

[@sla31]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kirkzevola5004]

I hope one day to visit Hawaii so I can fly on their B717-200s one day I love B717-200s

[@sla31]

I hope you get to do that my friend!

[@omaaviation9977]

Do you think if the 717 was branded as the MD-95, it would have been retired with the rest of the MD-80s/90s by Delta?

[@thecaynuck4694]

Doubt it, considering it's quite a bit newer than the MD-80/-90.

[@sla31]

Oh, probably not. Boeing still would've had to support the aircraft, and I honestly don't think Delta could have retired them earlier. They are too big a part of their operation. They really haven't had anything to replace them with until the A220 now. So, I think they would've been around just as long even if they hadn't gotten rebranded.

[@romeoramirez69420]

cool video

[@benjaminl3084]

Whats with the C1 (I think) Jetway 47:30 at HNL is/was that for A380's?

[@sla31]

Yes, that gate was designed specifically for ANA's A380's. ANA has the smallest A380 fleet, and it was purchased specifically to put on the Japan-Hawaii market. Even with the pandemic, ANA still plans to use the A380 on their HNL routes.

[@SYDAirlineEnthusiast]

From pushback to parking uncut. How nice. I wonder how you were drinking the water or guava juice they provided if your focus was on filming outside the window.

[@sla31]

Very carefully haha. With my one free hand.

[@larrywilson7848]

Skylite prod is my favorite..

[@sla31]

I'm glad you enjoy the content my friend. Thanks for watching!

[@margaretroselle8610]

Lovely, thanks!

[@sla31]

Glad you like it!

[@peyt_ace5618]

I probably saw the 717 you were flying on because they direct air traffic over my house

[@sla31]

I was waving as we flew over 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻

[@ksbear2]

They found a cubby hole to park you at HNL, didn't they? LOL I love the B717.

[@planesofhawaii]

this was my plane from KOA-HNL

[@lqryangaming]

I've never been on the b717-200 but I would love to before there gone for good cuz I wanna experience every ending aircraft as soon as possible before there all gone!

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

Seems like the crew only set the takeoff flaps when the roll began. An aural alarm will sound if throttles are advanced on runway without flaps set.

[@sla31]

You're not the only person who has mentioned this. Over the years, I've noticed that the flaps on 717's can be very deceiving. For example, the first setting off flaps is very difficult to see when it's been set, making it look like no flaps are extended, but in reality they are. The movement is so small, it's hard to even notice it. I believe what we're seeing here is an optical illusion caused by the aileron moving slightly during the takeoff roll. If you watch closely at 5:23, just after the pushback, you can see the flaps extend ever so slightly. The flaps also extend SUPER fast on the 717, making it even harder to see. Blink and you miss it. Then as we start our takeoff roll, the aileron moves up slightly, giving the appearance that the flaps are lowering. In reality, it's really the aileron moving in line with the wing, and the flaps had already been extended. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@MileHigh_Aviation]

awesome

[@shauncleary4506]

Stunning 🤩

[@sla31]

Thanks for watching my friend!

[@cleciabatistarocha1182]

9:55

[@ThePoptartCrpr]

10:15 - the flaps only extended after the takeoff roll started? huh, interesting

[@poppiarlin5612]

No the flaps were step right after push back. What you saw was the, what I refer as the outermost flap, return to the normal position. This gave the illusion that the flap was extending.

[@haroldlipschitz9301]

@@poppiarlin5612 Nope, that control surface is an aileron, not a flap

[@sla31]

You're not the only person who has mentioned this. Over the years, I've noticed that the flaps on 717's can be very deceiving. For example, the first setting off flaps is very difficult to see when it's been set, making it look like no flaps are extended, but in reality they are. The movement is so small, it's hard to even notice it. I believe what we're seeing here is an optical illusion caused by the aileron moving slightly during the takeoff roll. If you watch closely at 5:23, just after the pushback, you can see the flaps extend ever so slightly. The flaps also extend SUPER fast on the 717, making it even harder to see. Blink and you miss it. Then as we start our takeoff roll, the aileron moves up slightly, giving the appearance that the flaps are lowering. In reality, it's really the aileron moving in line with the wing, and the flaps had already been extended. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@ThePoptartCrpr]

@@sla31 Ah yep, that optical illusion with the aileron's edge got me haha! Very cool, thank you for the explanation!

[@planesofhawaii]

@@sla31 I did see that when I was on N476HA this year for HA 377 the flaps extension was so small during takeoff

[@king_zenvo8348]

Wow that is one odd approach there

[@RoadsOfAsiaBen]

Great fly! Did you hear about Spirit Airlines cancelled 227 flights, stranding hundreds of people at Orlando airport?

[@sla31]

I did. They had a complete operational meltdown yesterday.... Hopefully they can get it fixed today.

[@michaelsharp3615]

Hawaiian has come to a ULCC carrier on those inter island flights

[@BLKAV8R2021]

Very nice 👌

[@rampuscontrolius3949]

Love your videos! I watch them just about every night. My goodness you fly a lot! I spent two years living in Tulsa in the mid 80's. Doesn't look like the airport has changed much. How come the title of this one says "WN958"? Makes me think of Southwest Airlines. Take care!

[@sla31]

I’m glad you enjoy the videos my friend! That was a mistake in the title. That’s where I list the flight number and forgot to change it. To make things easier on myself, I just copy and paste each title/description and change the information. Missed the flight number on this one. Thanks for watching!

[@Dnjwksidjdksosidjdjfk]

Flew on a 717 a week ago they are the best, Great seat you got, I was so far in front of the wing I could barley see it lol

[@sla31]

Best seat in the house for the 717 for sure. Thanks for watching!

[@patsfan-rx1eh]

Got a flight sudjustion full flight xna to ord

[@sla31]

I belie I've done that. Even recently. Oh wait. I haven't posted that yet haha. You'll get your wish soon.

[@Arslantheplanelover]

Since you flew Allegiant can you do Spirit airlines?

[@sla31]

Never say never, but flying Spirit is not on my list of things to do. I flew Allegiant once, and it wasn't horrible, but the flight was also only like 40% full. And it was during a time when I was trying to find more interesting stuff out of TUL. You know, pan ddmic and all, I was trying to stay closer to home. After Spirit's complete operational meltdown yesterday, it does't make me want to fly them anymore than I did before, that's for sure. Who knows. We'll see what happens, but I'm definitely not committing to flying on Spirit anytime soon.

[@hitomikobayashi7069]

What does ito stand for

[@sla31]

ITO is the IATA and FAA airport code for Hilo International Airport. KZbin limits the number of characters in a video title to 100. So I cannot spell out the airport in the title. I do however, always list the full city and state info with the code in the description. Thanks for watching!

[@treyweger]

Why did the Southwest have its strobes on at the gate?

[@sla31]

I imagine because the crew forgot to turn them off. They were on the whole time they were at the gate, so they likely just missed it on their checklist. Obviously, we left before they did, so I didn't get to see if they were shut off after the next pre-flight walk around.

[@crphoto303]

I call that the "Nonrev seat."

[@sla31]

Unless it’s me, and then it’s the revenue passenger in the non-rev seat haha. Thanks for watching my friend!

[@amytaylorw]

Sorry I Missed your video I was ⛷

[@avgaskoolaid4572]

At 0:58, I recognize that voice! There's an excellent video about the woman who does those announcements at airports/stations all over the world here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXKveWiBrLdqbpo

[@nikolauswolff5791]

Greetings from paradise. Hawaii. Oh man.... Hawaiian should replace their stone old 717's with new state of the art A 220's.

[@sla31]

I agree that the A220 would be a great replacement for Hawaiian, but I also love the 717, and I'm not ready for them to leave haha.

[@michaelsharp3615]

Hilo Hawaii is one of the most wettest cities in the U.S.

[@sla31]

The wettest, in fact. It's gets more annual rainfall than any other city in the US.

[@michaelsharp3615]

@@sla31 more than Florida

[@vasilicastoica6785]

Când vine vorba de zbor, îmi place să fiu pasager alături de tine Prietene, încerc să-ți spun, rezervare pentru mine un loc 🛩🛩🛩🛩🛩🛩🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️☁️☁️☁️

[@soccerchamp3734]

kinda feel bad for his ears because he RIGHt next to the engine

[@sla31]

Don’t be sorry. This is the best seat on the plane!