Full IL-2 1946 mission: Ta-183s Intercept Russian Tu-4s

[@JustinianPrvni]

I was really skeptical of the way the cannon fire gutted such massive planes, then I found that the planes were supposed to be armed with quad MK 108s. Holy shit.

[@temmiethetem468]

*Y O U G O T A H O L E I N Y O U R R I G H T W I N G* Oops sorry wrong game

[@TheDeepDiveOriginal]

Its the left wing bro )

[@MK_k3vin]

He doesn’t knows Temmie

[@Unknown.Skymaster]

he doesn’t know de way

[@kensai7]

@Fishyyy, these alternate reality missions are actually really interesting, especially as we finally see encounters between 1946 birds. Keep them coming, please! :)

[@graustreifbrombeerkralle1078]

*Stalin wants to know your location*

[@JosephStalin-zp6cl]

Graustreif Brombeerkralle do I?

[@skidzholeshot1316]

34:19 MIG JUST ON THE CLOUDS GOT A LUCKY SHOT,GREAT VID.

[@gregs9584]

i wonder if this machine was inspirational to the MiG-15 designer

[@Paul_Sergeyev]

Naah, this is just a concept. Also MiG is too dofferent from this one.

[@mikemontgomery2654]

Indeed it did. Many aspects of this plane were incorporated into the mig-15. All taken from captured blueprints.

[@GuilhermeOliveira-ml3cj]

The intake reminds me of the F86 Sabre and the j29

[@xx_lightning_xx5781]

@@Paul_Sergeyev not really actually

[@panzervalkyrie9299]

Agreed it’s just too similar not to be right?

[@killbot999]

So glad to see people still playing this legend of a game

[@JdebMkay]

38:53 ''Oh'' *Sound of destruction* ''The gear's gone'' *Sliding across the ground everything's breaking* ''Alright, well hello.'' *Does 3 more spins whilst still sliding*

[@TonyKito]

These russkies flew into the *wrong goddamn airspace* >:V

[@MomentalnoVMore]

in real life, these "russkies" shot down a handful of b-29s.

[@TonyKito]

@@MomentalnoVMore Ta-183s are not russian mate

[@MomentalnoVMore]

@@TonyKito don't make my grandmother laugh. ta-183 was not produced by anyone at all. this is a paper plane. ^_^

[@TonyKito]

@@MomentalnoVMore weird flex but ok

[@yevua5049]

@@MomentalnoVMore what's your point

[@stevegoesrogue]

I really liked the inclusion of the 'radio chatter' between you four. Any chance there will be more videos with it or will it be an occasional occurrence?

[@jeancoulomb8676]

Tsundere_Gaming

[@firepower7017]

I bet your those people who listens to sounds when sleeping. It's just an assumption so don't hunt me down and somewhat kill me?

[@stevegoesrogue]

@@firepower7017 What? You mean like white noise? On occasion, yes I use white noise to help me sleep, but it's not an everyday thing. I personally liked the chatter because it makes the mission seem more lively instead of the bland radio chatter the AI use.

[@firepower7017]

@@stevegoesrogue You fool! You conversed with your enemy!

[@intergalacticolive]

@@firepower7017😂😂

[@Cedar77]

It's interesting how few people understand the concept of doing a countdown for an action. If you count down 3 - 2 - 1 - Go! it's perfectly understandable when to go but if you do 3 - 2 - 1Go! it's pointless to do a countdown at all.

[@safetydoggo2721]

Cyan punctuation is important

[@systemhalodark]

I remember the first time I took off in one of these in 2008. Crashed like brick.

[@humppi.2304]

Now THAT is epic

[@1ochotnik]

Nice flying. These X-4's could really use proximity fuses with a larger detection range

[@Raiders1917]

Irl they had a audio system that was tunned to the same frequency as B-17 engines. Don't know how they set up their X-4s though.

[@badethics7542]

​@@Raiders1917It measured the doppler shift in the sound waves coming from the B-17 to calculate the distance, essentially a sonar proximity fuse.

[@hanghaeja]

Good to see some "alt hist" stuff from Fishyyy. Interesting demonstration of different styles: high angle lateral attacks (more safe) vs approaching from dead six in the midst of gunner's fire. And various usage of X-4. I wonder what was that mysterious Soviet jet at the end - MiG-9?

[@shushuntershuntershunt5157]

it looked like one I think

[@krosskreut3463]

And other version of the plane the la 15

[@martinmaier352]

What do you mean with "at the end"? I cannot find it.

[@Slender1870]

@@martinmaier352 i think he means at 34:15 and 35:17

[@R3volutionblu3s]

I always upvote Huckebein the Raven I'm also imagining this as some weird alternate reality where the allies decided to allow Karl Donitz' government to remain in power in West Germany after the war in order to serve as a buffer against the Soviet Union, which has now caused the famously paranoid Stalin to kick off World War III in the late 1940's. Granted the swastikas on the Ta-183's kinda discredit this idea, but I still like it.

[@ryanp9190]

The one with the bullet holes in his canopy was taking some really risky lines lining up behind the bombers the way he was

[@ryansplace2009]

I wish your flight had unique aircraft markings so I could scold whomever kept making stern attacks. Though, I suspect it was Tony.

[@Fishyyy]

Well, every attack has a bookmark, so go and find out :D

[@gibbygaming792]

Man, i didn't even know people played Multiplayer in this before!

[@goodacer1527]

Love the vid would love to see more of the talking

[@stokerboiler]

A long intercept for short-legged fuel-guzzling early jets.

[@zzodr]

Blew the first TU4's horizontal stab and rudder clean off. Nice.

[@emanuelenoc4650]

I Like the Lutchwhafe☀️🇩🇪 and I love Germany☀️🇩🇪🦁, congratulations From Krangi singapore☀️🇸🇬

[@persallnas5408]

those Ta:s remind me a bit of the j29 "tunnan"

[@henrik3291]

Håller med!

[@jfrorn]

Those 183's with such short fuselages would have most probably been a right pain to keep straight in flight!

[@tauncfester3022]

Look up the DeHavilland DH108 the DH Swallow. Every one of them crashed from structural failure caused by insufficient lateral stability, using the rudder at high speed was death sentence.

[@thomaszhang3101]

This one has an extended tail. It looks fat because it’s tail design is unconventional. Ta 183v3 has a conventional tail and the whole plane looks much slimmer, but the it is otherwise the same plane.

[@andersforsgren3806]

Short fuselage yes, that's why the tailwing lean back so drastically and the rear wing mounted there to give an offset tail. Structural failure was not just an rare accident but came optional. Metal fatigue was not understood at the time. Then again fighting aircraft was never designed for a long duration, most would be shot down to fast to develop metal fatigue Just like in this mission, they killed a heck of a number of enemy aircraft but all 4 Huckabees were lost in the end.

[@CMDRFandragon]

Damn so high upyou can sea the map edge. Ive never flown that high in that game lol.

[@andrewmontgomery5621]

The Ta-183's nickname is Huckebein meaning "Hunchback" a raven in German folklore.

[@michelprins]

good to see this game is still played got 3 versions of it steam gog and a boxed version ;)

[@robertmiller2173]

Fantastic, thanks

[@junkmanfight]

32:18 kind of friendly fire shooting from that angle, isn't it?

[@commander31able60]

delicious Luftwaffels.

[@אלכסנדרהברעקוסטי]

I've been playing this game for a rather long time and I'm having some issues with the Ta-183. I seem to be unable to get a half decent rate of climb or regain airspeed while flying level despite pushing my engine to its limit. Is there something about the Ta-183 that I am unaware of?

[@Fishyyy]

It's not your fault, the Ta-183's flight model just makes it real bad. We actually flew this with engine overheat disabled, so the performance wouldn't suck so much :/

[@ligmaboo]

I had more luck controlling the speed and climb with the stick and not the throttle. But using the same tactic on any other jet makes them go even faster. I revisited the TA-183 and was still disappointed, even with a shit engine id expect it to go down hill really fast in a dive but even mustangs can catch up to it. Meanwhile the YP-80 can pull energy out of its ass. I wish someone made a mod for the TA-183 or even the P-1101 that gave the “correct performance” even though they are paper planes, well the TA-183 is.

[@bandiras2]

really nice landing attempt, sadly the gears gave up, but the pilot survived anyway.

[@23GreyFox]

Ich habe die Ta-183 im Multiplayer geliebt, weil man mit ihr auf 100% Leistung bleiben konnte ohne die Triebwerke zu überhitzen.

[@piotrrkacperr4262]

Those were some really nice high angle gunshots

[@agoprospov5984]

39:10 Another happy landing 😂

[@abewright2201]

I love these alt history stuff

[@Joe-hh6ds]

LOL look at these funny planes

[@stanisawcwierkiewicz7569]

They look like tiny mig's 15 ^^

[@rodneypayne4827]

@@stanisawcwierkiewicz7569 the Russians overran the FW design and development centre capturing all of the drawings, data and wind tunnel models, MIG used it all to develop the MIG 15 during the late 40s, that's why the similar look.

[@motorrebell]

@@rodneypayne4827 a little bit of F86 Sabre design too ! :-)

[@mh-60t]

@@stanisawcwierkiewicz7569 We have a similar last name :D

[@Herra_X]

@@motorrebell The other way around Ta-183 was first, the Sabre was designed with German engineers, after the war, with operation paperclip.

[@ethanspaziani1070]

Now this is a really cool video I love these are planes they're so cool you are such a great pilot and I hope I can be able to fly with you and against you one day whenever I finally get around to having a computer of my own I would like to see the P51 R based off of precious metal it has boosted engine performance and dual counter-rotating propellers it looks really cool and would love to see you do a mission taking down some FW 190s with it I would also like to see the Martin Baker 5 it was a fighter prototype that looked like a big P-51 with counter-rotating propellers would like to see some scenarios if it were finished and put into development I'd love to do this all myself but of course without a computer it's a little difficult I love your videos and keep up the good work

[@1MinuteGaming]

Please do more Ta-183 I love this airplane

[@matthewrosengren2813]

Great job sir, to you and your fellow pilots. Keep up the good work!👍🏻

[@pattykuvshin]

Fegelein!!

[@СергейФилимонов-щ1ч]

На ту 4 оборонительное вооружение стоят пушки 23 мм . При попадании одного снаряда в кабину пилот погибнет. Я авиатехник мне 66 лет

[@WarhammerWings]

B-29s and Tu-2s,Fishyy!

[@SauronEye]

Looks like a stunted version of the F-84 Saber....lol

[@TheArklyte]

1)Ta-183 was never supposed to be an interceptor or even a great fighter. Your role would basically be catch up to escort fighters, tie them up in a fight, wait for cavalry in the form of Me262 HG3 to arrive, watch them save your ass and finish the mission while taking all the glory 2)manual guided missiles were proven to be very ineffective due to pilot not having combination of Spider-man's reflexes/coordination and Luthor's brain. As well as lack of copilot and technological shortcomings on top:D Try rocket pods with proximity fuze rockets instead. 3)if the war continued then Allied technological cooperation did too. Those things would be escorted by Meteors/Shooting Star. Not to mention probably flying at night with use of automatic gun laying turrets and dropping guided bombs.

[@tauncfester3022]

Add to the mix the DH Vampire and Hawker Seahawk

[@Bellator151]

wow, first time I've ever seen anyone actually *hit* anything with the X-4...

[@kubajackiewicz2]

It is pretty easy to get 75% hits with it assuning you attack large plane flying straight from rear or front

[@CCFarewankers]

@@kubajackiewicz2 ...and assuming the AI is dumber than usual

[@FoFoxhound]

It was a cool video I don’t get the dislikes, the Huckenbein is a good looking bird.

[@CCFarewankers]

You will have ugly children

[@black_sn0w_]

absolute massacre

[@justinmorgan4568]

Ja zee Wunderweapons!

[@Jakey9747]

do you know how to fix it, i cant launch il 2 1946 for some reason on steam

[@deafmusician2]

Chocks are gone when you left the pad. Release BRAKE on my mark

[@jacobhill3302]

How are the missiles guided? Manual radio control?

[@Fishyyy]

wire

[@jacobhill3302]

@@Fishyyy that would have been extraordinary difficult irl. Is it pretty hard on the sim?

[@1daddy57]

Snub-nosed F-86/MiG 15's

[@dshtokalo]

How are they moving their heads in cockpits like this?

[@CCFarewankers]

Track IR or Trackhat

[@rpm1796]

Luv the 183's!

[@junocrusader5860]

Coolest mission ever!

[@bf-1109]

항상 잘보고있습니다. 감사합니다 XD

[@jonoedwards4195]

Ze Supreme Commandant is not impressed, He has given You four a choice, firing squad, or Fallschirmjager Special Op behind ze Eastern front. Great Show fishy.

[@MURSIXX]

Really cool!!!

[@moc6897]

Nice!

[@garysparks7960]

Love it fisghhthyyyy

[@warpaiii2727]

Tu 4s are so fucking Strong in Every single Game

[@xelanoxin]

This game is 13 years old wow

[@CCFarewankers]

Yes, it's a stroppy teenager with acne. But the patches and mods make it so much more than the original IL2:1946. It's still one of my favourites, even after IL2:BoS, DCS and X-plane 11. I get up to 255 fps on it, and it runs silky smooth without errors.

[@trumpstaffel1675]

I'm thinking that if the war progressed to this point you'd have the Allies with aircraft with turbines and the Reich and co. with proper axial engined jet fighters.

[@andreamaul1603]

And Berlin would probably be a crater from atomic bombs

[@ulfricsombrage]

Nice battle.

[@marjoseph2311]

This is what happens when ww2 lasted a little longer

[@stallfighter]

But where are X-4 proximity fuze? I remember that it had acoustic fuze in Il-2

[@coryhall7074]

X-4's proximity fuze detonated at only 23 feet and that was in optimal conditions.

[@23GreyFox]

Next you can use the Mig-9 and the YP-80. There are many more in 1946.^^

[@tonykeith76]

No EZ-42 gunsight?

[@theymusthatetesla3186]

Great!!!

[@aftershok98]

What kind of software do you use for head tracking ? I use freetrackNoIr but i don't get such stable results

[@aftershok98]

Nevermind, it's in the desc.

[@TheTuxMaster]

quite like the swidish Saab J 29

[@ninaakari5181]

Yeah quite a lot acctually. Swedes aquired blueprints right after the war

[@TheTuxMaster]

@@ninaakari5181 Absolutely, Sweden is the spider in the info network!

[@CCFarewankers]

But the SAAB J29 Tunnan (Tuna) was a successful trans-sonic design powered by a RR Goblin (?) engine. The Ta183 was a paper proposal, never built, and probably would have been a failure.

[@xrhodi]

Just curious. Maybe things have changed since my time as an aircraft mechanic in the air force; but are chocks not used against the wheels of the aircraft, while they are parked. They're not used prior to brake-release on the runway. They would have already been removed when the planes taxied out. Unless you're referring to chocks of a different sort?

[@Fishyyy]

It's just an IL-2 thing. Whenever you are at a complete halt, you can apply chocks, to completely remove any movement of your aircraft. It's handy to coordinate takeoffs in jets, which require a lot of time to "throttle" up. This way everyone can release chocks while at full power, to takeoff simultaniously.

[@neki0playz12]

I know what a tu4 is but WHAT. ARE YOU FLYING

[@f4fphantomii468]

A Ta-183 this plane was actually planned by Nazi germany

[@marc13bautista]

Those are some weird looking jets.

[@TrangleC]

One piece of data I could never find is how much ammo for the 30mm cannons the "Huckebein" would have carried. How much is it in the game?

[@skidzholeshot1316]

i thought these jets were also intended to be dropped from aircraft slung under the wings,like the americans developed from this jet?great vid

[@noname-wo9yy]

What like the xf 85 the problem is these jets are far larger then the xf 85 and the american one was designed to be dropped from a b 35 which is HUGE in comparison to the German bombers of the time. Also if you look at the design recovering/dropping them would be problematic. Not to mention the xf 85 was a death trap

[@skidzholeshot1316]

yep i saw this and there iz no place for a hook to drop and retrieve with because of the huge tail,the american tail is split in 3 and small and they sat in the belly of the bomber,yes a few problems to be solved for the german one,but no doubt they would have found a way.

[@Riechstag]

Skidz Holeshot wanna see somethin interestin that goes with what your sayin bout aircraft dropin other aircraft, look up the 'project c with project e concept fighter' , nazis are were crazy late war with designs

[@skidzholeshot1316]

nice

[@jc-hf1bk]

@@Riechstag you are talking about that crazy Daimler Benz design right?

[@CCFarewankers]

I always found the Ta183 had terrible handling. Much preferred the He162 or Me262. Even the Go229, even with it's terrible visibility. But nothing shreds heavy bombers like the D335 with the 2x37mm and more cannons.

[@CCFarewankers]

And it's an ugly bugger.

[@CCFarewankers]

It was only a concept drawing. I'm sure flight testing, even wind tunnel testing (and RLM had one of the World's most advanced wind tunnels) would probably have revealed what a pig it would have been. Look at it: No area ruling!)

[@threadworm437]

The designer kurt tank kept on designing planes for argentina after the war, the pulqui II was the real version of this

[@ferdinandninobla3703]

Nice historical event

[@shannonman2]

When in the air, why do the underwing missiles appear and disappear, apart from that enjoyed the vld.

[@Fishyyy]

It's four different aircraft, of which two took missles and two didn't. *Facepalm*

[@riffriff4725]

nice and epic...while taking off the scene where other jets passing by..😊😊😊😊

[@raymondyee2008]

Interesting given that the TA-183 was designed to take down B-29s and B-32s.

[@Shoeg4zer]

Shouldn't it be Soviet Tu-4s?

[@Unknown.Skymaster]

What i would give to have an online session like this

[@DrAcula-mv6kb]

How do this AiM rockets worked?

[@Just_Jet]

People still play this game? :o

[@natus1]

Do they also have coldwar jets and secret german planes?

[@Fishyyy]

Yeah - certain versions of this game, which we don't talk about here - have pretty much everything.

[@natus1]

@@Fishyyyis it vr game or for pc

[@Fishyyy]

PC. You can get VR to work, but it's not great.

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Oh dear. I was hoping to see a landing.

[@richardgaunt9417]

It really is a mini Mig 17

[@elrandomxd2081]

It is almost similar to I. Ae Pulqui II

[@threadworm437]

Designed by the same man, Kurt Tank, very very similar planes

[@luanaugusto7401]

*u plays on windows 2000?,or windows 7/10?*

[@ericbusch87]

Windows 95

[@Striraid]

So, just like in the trailer.

[@jankukura6744]

The TA-183s look like kids of a Sabre and a MiG 15 that are size as ME-163...just look at it...Front and cockpit look like Sabre's,has the resemblance (looks) and wingspan of a MiG 15...

[@yeah-7544]

No, the sabre and mig-15 are the kids of the TA-183

[@cobracollie3639]

The front part kinda looks life a F-86

[@threadworm437]

F86 based off of blueprints from Messerschmitt P1101 and Ta 183

[@akondofswat209]

Honey I shrunk the Mig..

[@manjimbo9830]

German have homing missiles at the end of WW2?

[@trumpstaffel1675]

Wire guided.

[@and15re1]

Are the Tupolev Tu-4 an added aircraft, or just a B-29 skin?

[@ANDREALEONE95]

B-29 with skin.

[@and15re1]

thx ;) @@ANDREALEONE95

[@elitecmb]

@Перво-Германский маппер Its copied and improved B-29

[@LordTiberiusss]

German superwet dreams

[@Tbonyandsteak]

You can say what you want but it was Kurt Tank original idea. I have heard that it was a German designer that made Mig15 And where did he got it from? Usually those that had the original idea gets the credits. Blueprints of Ta183 and Mig15 in an overlay gif 3.bp.blogspot.com/-ysVbTJkYI1o/Vxz7MoFTZvI/AAAAAAAAAlM/4uXZbZeV5088ZuFJ_7u4oNnNjuIgeidaQCLcB/s1600/Mig.gif

[@trumpstaffel1675]

Where does this take place? RK Ukraine? :^)