"FULL of Contradictions!" pt1: Evidence for the Bible pt18

[@jamalkhan3708]

Ex Muslim period Christians from Pakistan. Love your teaching and I’m so happy that I found your channel. Your messages are inspiration and it’s helps me to grow in my new faith in Christianity. God bless you abundantly ✊❤️🙏 I also have a comment, first I saw you and I thought you are Dr David Wood’s twin brother 🤣

[@joshkenedy8828]

God bless you

[@HoldToChrist]

How are you doing 2 years later? Was David the one who showed you the faults of Islam?

[@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool]

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. - John 3:16

[@Three_Sevens]

You're a brave man. I know it's 4 years after your comment. But to be a former Muslim in Pakistan must be hard. God bless you.

[@InspiringTheology14]

Awesome to see someone teach on supposed bible contradictions. Really excited to see this part of the series develop.

[@qhayiyass]

You fooling yourself you idiot

[@thepossessor]

@@qhayiyass how so?

[@John-pu5kz]

@@qhayiyass proof?

[@maow9240]

Should check out Dr. Timothy McGrew he covers supposed bible contradictions really well

[@blusheep2]

I would have more respect for atheistic lists of contradictions if they actually scratched some off their list from time to time when they were shown to not be contradictions at all. I've yet to see that.

[@g.mano.1320]

It's like to ask the Church to downgrade miracles when capable to be proven scientifically. I dare you on this 🤣

[@blusheep2]

@@g.mano.1320 Why would you present this as a dare? I don't have any problem with "downgrading" a miracle if it has a scientific explanation. Whenever I run into a person of faith, any faith, I ask them 2 questions: 1) Considering that there are so many faiths and the adherents to each of these faiths believe that they have the truth, why do you believe you are right and they are wrong about theirs? 2) Have you ever experienced a miracle that is so obviously a miracle that even an atheist would squirm trying to rationalize it away? With regards to number 2, I always flush those who say stuff like, "My aunt had cancer and we prayed for her and her cancer went into remission." People's cancer goes into remission all the time without prayer. Either way, the point you are making, I think, is just as accurate as the point I made. Human nature resists admitting error. This can be seen in any sub group of humanity. I'd say the Christian community though, is much less homogenized on such lists as the atheist community is. There are large groups of Christians that are extremely skeptical of any claim to miracle. Let me ask you friend... Are you willing to upgrade something to a miracle when science claims this something as a physical impossibility?

[@g.mano.1320]

@@blusheep2 I may have used the word dare inappropriately, since I didn't mean to ask you to downgrade. I wanted to dare you to convince them to downgrade them once science proved as a non-miracle. Unfortuntely when a miracle has been defined such, they never go back. Your questions are smart. 1) Everyone think his religion convey the truths. At your birth, you're being told what's your nationality, what's your language and what you have to believe it's true. It's indoctrination. 2) I have never experienced anything like that, of course. But I am quite sure that if we'd meet someone who's in possess of a much higher technology we could be falling into that thought. And I am following a path that's leading me to a point that makes me think there's high technology in our past, and the bible speaks about it. Now, believers do not admit, and won't ever accept it. Atheists will NEVER EVER admit it, and mock it. Therefore, I don't think I will need to upgrade something to a miracle just because my technology can't explain some phenomenon.

[@blusheep2]

​@@g.mano.1320 Oh, don't worry. I didn't take "dare" to be derogatory in anyway. I just didn't understand at the time why this would be a difficult thing to do, so as to call it a "dare." Responding to your clarification... I have in fact, attempted to moderate my peers views on miracles. I for one have, so I'm pretty sure its not accurate to say that one never goes back after designating something a miracle though I imagine that as a stereotype you are right. I'm not a big fan of the human race. We all think we are super smart and that everyone else is lacking brain cells when they disagree with us. We aren't well designed for rational thought. When confronted with an opposing argument, our first response is to Deny it, and our second response is to Forget about it. 1. Everything is indoctrination. "Indoctrination" is generally used as a word with derogatory meaning but the truth is there are other synonyms we could use like: taught, instructed, schooled, etc. Another side to this is the assumption that "indoctrination" means "brainwashed" and that the child indoctrinated can't think for themselves as they mature. If you grew up as an "indocrinated" Christian but became an atheist in your teens, this wouldn't mean that the rest of us are wallowing in our indoctrination. It simply means that we have made conclusions that are different then yours. You would have to get to know a person before it would be reasonable to make conclusions about their inability to think for themselves. Don't you think? 2. I have. I think miracles are miracles. We can only evaluate the miraculous in relation to what we know about the known universe. It was improper for any previous ancient society to call the sun rising a miracle. Lacking all knowledge about the heavens they would just be ascribing the miraculous to what they don't understand, but lets say I break an arm. Its black blue and green, there is a bulge in the skin and I am crying like a little girl. Then a man comes by and puts his hand on my arm and prays for healing in the name of Jesus the Great Physician and within minutes the pain stops, the swell disappears, the arm straitens and returns to normal color. We have every right to conclude this is a miracle because we know enough science about the way the body heals and its rates of healing to know this is in opposition to scientific knowledge. It is not just labeling ignorance. Now it may come about that we find out that some aliens beamed a new bone into my arm because they felt bad for me but until then the evidence and proper use of the term miracle still exists. When confronted with stories of the miraculous I respect your choice to appeal to unknown technologies as long as your honest enough to admit that you have no evidence that these technologies exist.

[@g.mano.1320]

@@blusheep2 Thanks for your answer. What you say is coherent, however when I speak about "the miracles never downgraded" I always refer to the only one organization in charge of it: the Congregation for the Causes of Saints is the congregation of the Catholic Church that oversees the process of the approval of miracles. Of all the miracles approved so far, no one of them had been downgraded (as far as I know), even tho there could be a scientific explanation of the phenomenon found only years later. Miracle today, miracle forever. That's not correct. We have two different visions of the divine. I do not believe in that god theology passed off thru years. I have been following for many years now too many eminent scholars studying the bible so deep that emerged a totally different story that's coherent in its wholeness, something that never occurs if you read the bible with theological filters, ever. As a word, "Miracle" convey a theological meaning that I am not feeling anymore. That's why, to me, it's nothing more than a mere "unexplained phenomenon" due probably to some higher knowledge we do not possess at the moment. And about the higher technology, the hebrew bible if full ot it, but the chronicles of it slam unavoidably against the poor language tools of the ancient authors. But all the books, from genesis on, speaks about something so magnificent that even the authors could use a word to explain (because of yet nonexistent terms)...

[@josephlasley5298]

I looked up "Mike Winger contradictions" and I was not disappointed! I've believed in the Bible for 7 years but was still believing that there were some contradictions in the gospels. This has put my mind at ease and strengthened my faith in the scruptures even more. Thank you Mike!

[@Anon0nline]

There are plenty of actual contradictions in the Bible, and Mike Winger just picked ones no critic actually uses. If you want to see how the Bible contains contradictions, just look up "Holy Koolaid".

[@ThisBoiDraws]

@@Anon0nline oh I know that guy. He’s a joke lol

[@msdd7610]

@@ThisBoiDraws but the contradictions remain...

[@metapolitikgedanken612]

@@msdd7610 Using malicious hermeneutics or deconstruction can 'find' contradictions in any text, but most people that aren't trained in philosophy/linguistic/literature don't know about this. So it's fairly easy to fool someone by 'finding contradiction' without them being necessarily there.

[@msdd7610]

@@metapolitikgedanken612 I mean yeah there's certainly stuff that people point to as contradictions that aren't contradictions but there are quite a few pretty clear contradictions, and not through language semantics

[@freedomhouseministries]

Oh, my goodness. This is exactly what I did when I was a freshman in college and one of my professors said that I should be careful about the Bible because it is "full of contradictions." I asked him, "Which one concerns you the most?" He got all red in the face and stuttered around. He couldn't name even one. So I knew that this was likely something he had read or heard someone say, not something that he really knew anything about. I told him that as I had looked at what others had proposed as "contradictions" they generally turned out to be misunderstandings about the Scriptures and what they were saying so that it would be good to look at each suggested "contradiction" individually. He had no response.

[@tomasrocha6139]

Matthew 27:5 - And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. Acts 1:18 - Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

[@lakilakisorong8204]

@tomasrocha6139 this is the exact thing what freedomhouseministries was saying... the miss understanding of the text... the explanation is pretty simple actually... Judas gave back the money yet the pharisee couldnt accept it as it was blood money, so they bought land under judas name, which mean it was belong to judas... judas hung himselves, few days later the branch broke down as the way the book of act explan it...

[@tomasrocha6139]

@@lakilakisorong8204 It says he bought it not that anyone else bought it in his name

[@lakilakisorong8204]

@@tomasrocha6139 again... you need to understand the culture of the language... for example, your mom give you money to buy a certain fish and you went to buy the fish in the market... your mom cooked it and served it as dinner... the question is, who bought the fish? Was it wrong if your mom told your dad "honey, lets eat, i bought your fav fish".. but that is probably a bad example, my point is, to understand it, you need to think how jewish people use the term "buy" back in the day... who bought it, was it the one who phisically went to the market, or the one who owned the money? Or both could be true?

[@bradhouston4734]

Thanks Mike. Hey, something else worth noting is that J. Warner Wallace from Cold Case Christianity actually sites a number of the seeming contradictions as the reason that he became a believer! He is a Real life Cold Case investigator and he interestingly states that in murder investigations, the key witness accounts ALWAYS vary slightly. So to him these accounts “had the ring of truth about them” because of slight inconsistencies! Not despite them

[@StudyTard]

This video was out when I was 10 years old. Now I'm 18, wanting to get closer to God and researching selected youtube channels. I'm glad someone mentioned your name in their reddit answer. Definitely not disappointed

[@bigotis9042]

6 years later and still an awesome video

[@davidsbusiness106]

Even 7 years later

[@nandamadyongolo774]

"Everytime you chase one down and it ends up not being a contradiction you lose any belief that there are contradictions" so true. I believe the bible has no contradictions.

[@daltalfsotheracc]

As a Missourian, you made my day by remembering our state motto

[@awakeningfaith2290]

I've debated and spoke with atheist on this topic for 17 Years. I've always enjoyed talking with the ones who has showed equal respect. I've learned a lot from those studies and have yet to find a single contradiction in God's word.

[@nineplusnineis1869]

debate a Muslim scholar lets see how much you enjoy it 😂🎉

[@samtv6447]

But what about the numeric errors how can I answer someone as a Christian who asks me about how ,The Bible can have contradictions when is suppose to be perfect and being the word of God

[@awakeningfaith2290]

@@samtv6447 I've only had to study a few out, which ones are you meaning ? Numerics is the only topic I havnt got into a lot of, it's usually the same stories between the books people think they find mistakes in.

[@samo6083]

​@awakeningfaith2290 how many horsemen did David take? Well 2 Samuel 8:24 says 700 and 1st chronicles 18:4 says something completely different

[@lakilakisorong8204]

​​@@samo6083i havent looked at that... but as far as i know, hebrew didnt have numeric alphabet, therefore they used phoenician (if im not mistaken) and unlike hebrew alphabeth, phoenician handwriting back then seemed bulky and not so clear, therefore you will find some numbers error in OT due to handwriting copying... i used to be bothered with this but not anymore... those numbers dont really change the value of the stories... so dont focus too much on those or you will miss the more important things from the readings... the whole book of the bibles, numerical error probably less than 15 (probably...)

[@Da_meg]

Thank you so much, Mike. I was raised as an SDA Christian, but I had no real relationship with Jesus until a month ago. I am getting baptized in November so I've been researching to strengthen my faith. There are many critics of the Bible that fuel my doubt, but I thank God every day that He gave each and every one of us a mind to think and reason for ourselves. I know God's glory is revealed in weakness, but please pray for me.

[@samanthajeffers9339]

“You do the Missouri thing. The Show-Me state.” Yes! I’m represented 🤘🏻

[@nightowl8387]

Samantha Jeffers lol I live in Jefferson country

[@samanthajeffers9339]

@@nightowl8387 I’m in Livingston!

[@nightowl8387]

Samantha Jeffers have you ever heard of influence church

[@serenaortengren9728]

This blesses me so much! I have always believed the Bible is inerrant but don’t always have the tools to speak about it with people with questions or assumptions. Thank you Mike please never stop

[@mickknight6963]

Good job. I trusted Jesus when a stranger on the street in New Orleans stopped and explained what happened on the cross and that Jesus rose again and was my only hope for Heaven, in 1984, and through the last 39 years the Bible has proven itself to be so trustworthy in every area of study. It's really an amazing book! So these little seeming contradictions don't bother me anymore. My eternity is not in jeopardy over me not knowing an answer right now about EVERYTHING! Lol...we do not live this way in real life. Ya know? We regularly stake our lives and the lives of our loved one's on much less researched and vetted information than this. Because we use our minds, and we understand language and reason. And when so much is true we determine it not wise to wait to know everything before we trust what we do know! So many have good answers, and others, such as the "two Jerichos", have answers we just can't see now. That one was not a problem when written. But was found again by archeology in 1904 I think. If the Bible is trustworthy in the large quantity of important doctrinal truth , why would it lie in the very few passages in question that do not influence doctrine at all? Yall check out Sir William Ramsay, atheist archaologist, who set out to disprove the Bible, specifically Luke's Gospel and The Book of Acts in the New Testament. After decades of digging, and traveling, and studying, he says Luke is the greatest historian of antiquity. This led him to become a christian and wrote over 20 books on the subject. Read how Luke's writings astounded him in every aspect. Thanks Mike. ✌️

[@NicholasKaighen]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet but the twin cities of Jericho was discovered by German archaeologist Carl Watzinger and theologian Ernst Sellin from 1907-1909.

[@aservant2287]

Great word Mr. Mike, I might have to watch again very interesting

[@desertsinger72]

I. am watching this video in March of 2022. Thank you for filming this and putting it on KZbin. My mom, who is a Christian, has said. to. me many times. that. there are contradictions in the Bible. I always feel. very confused when she tells me this. We are Christians, we have. attended church faithfully. We have. been involved in church activities. How can she say there are contradictions in the Bible? I will show her. this. video and any others I have come across. This helps. me so much.

[@awakeningfaith2290]

There are not any. Some take deep study and looking up words in the original Greek/Latin but after 17 years, I havnt found any contradictions

[@awakeningfaith2290]

@Wow sure what would you like to know? I don't have all the answers but I'll give it my best shot

[@ThetaMinistries]

I’ve found so much confidence in this subject. I’ve found by just reading the context in full solves the issue and takes away the excuse of those who want to believe there are “contradictions”

[@marywesley6460]

You are an amazing blessing to the body of Christ, Mike...thank you.

[@davidmattches4020]

Sorry, he doesn't bless me much, and I've been a follower of Jesus (A poor one) for 50 years. He just tries to reinforce his/listeners' beliefs. We are to have our beliefs transformed, not just confirmed. Romans 12...

[@marywesley6460]

Not quite sure what you mean, David....our beliefs are to align with the Bible...I feel that Mike Winger sticks pretty closely with the scriptures.

[@davidmattches4020]

@@marywesley6460 hi Mary, so glad to hear you refer to the bible as the scripture and not "The Word of God". I have known some Christian's call the scriptures the Word, to give what they say more authority. Jesus calls the text The Scripture. Not once in the Bible does it say "read the word" there are many ways to receive His word, but not by reading it, and often that will come through the Scripture, but not always. This is mainly an evangelical claim. They will say the Word of God is quick and powerful... etc. They think that refers to the Bible which is ridiculous the bible was not compiled for 300 years after that statement. Have a blessed day...

[@dukepercentie9029]

Thank you sir , you are a blessing to many many believers helping us to have greater insights of scriptures. May God bless you .

[@hbenny5752]

I would say even though these are not contradictions, they still make the Bible even more believable because clearly, these men weren’t all sitting together - “okay, you say 2 so I’ll say 2 even though I was only focused on the 1 - can’t have a contradiction here.” Further proof they aren’t contradictions at all just doubles down. Awesome example with the “I went to the movies the other night” vs “Susie and I went to the movies” - exactly!! Both are true - just depends on perspective.

[@oldman9843]

Exactly ! There is just more information given in one gospel than another , it is so simple . I knew that , it is just nice to finally hear a minister say so .

[@PROJECT.LUKE.ONE.75]

If we read the Bible at face value, without a preconceived bias for finding errors, we will find it to be a coherent, consistent, and relatively easy-to-understand book. Yes, there are difficult passages. Yes, there are verses that appear to contradict each other. We must remember that the Bible was written by approximately 40 different authors over a period of around 1500 years. Each writer wrote with a different style, from a different perspective, to a different audience, for a different purpose. We should expect some minor differences. However, a difference is not a contradiction. It is only an error if there is absolutely no conceivable way the verses or passages can be reconciled. Even if an answer is not available right now, that does not mean an answer does not exist. Many have found a supposed error in the Bible in relation to history or geography only to find out that the Bible is correct once further archaeological evidence is discovered. There are viable and intellectually plausible answers to every supposed Bible contradiction and error. There are books and websites available that list "all the errors in the Bible." Most people simply get their ammunition from these places; they do not find supposed errors on their own. There are also books and websites available that refute every one of these supposed errors. The saddest thing is that most people who attack the Bible are not truly interested in an answer. Many "Bible attackers" are even aware of these answers, but they continue to use the same old shallow attacks again and again.

[@michaelflores9220]

If I read The Bible at face value, with an unbiased and neutral point of view, as we would read the Koran, etc. I find a very confusing and error-ridden book of absurd stories (The whole world from just two people? A global flood? An Egyptian princess giving Moses a Hebrew name? The whole Exodus story!) Christians criticize the Koran using the same logic atheists criticize The Bible!

[@michaelflores9220]

I have read this stuff from both sides. Apologists simply add on stuff that isn't in The Bible to Ad Hoc rationalize many errors. Some defenses are good and some attacks are just downright ludicrous, such as Sam Harris using two verses right next to each other and saying that the Bible contradicts itself on how David killed Goliath. But to a truly honest person who listens to their intellect and not Ad Hoc rationalization, The Bible is clearly far from inerrant. Here is a good starting point: ffrf.org/legacy/books/lfif/?t=stone

[@defenderoftruth6000]

@@michaelflores9220 The three examples you gave: 1.) Genetic Science proves all man came from a single couple... 2.) Geological Science and fossils also prove that every part of the earth has been under water... 3.) Mosheh is not a Hebrew name. It is an Egyptian name and all good Bible dictionaries confirm this fact. If you see problems, I suggest you do some real study and not just spew out the first thing that pops into your head...

[@michaelflores9220]

@@defenderoftruth6000 Genetics show a Y-Chromosomial Adam and Mitochondrial Eve, but that does'nt mean they lived at the same time and it's not the same as everybody being descended from just one couple. DNA shows the total human population has never dropped below tens of thousands of breeding pairs.

[@michaelflores9220]

@@defenderoftruth6000 2. Sia date person who has never read talkorigins. 3. Demonstrably false: The Hebrew Bible, The footnotes of the NABRE Bible and Wikipedia both state that it is odd that she is giving him a Hebrew name: "he became her son. She named him Moses (Moshe), saying, 'I drew him out (meshitihu) of the water.'"

[@thespanielinquisition7167]

People just dont want to give up their sin so they will strive to generate reasons and evidences to keep from the light and hide in the darkness of their misery. If all else fails, they will recreate Jesus in their own image. No amount of arguing will persuade them - better to instead warn them of the reality of the hell they inevitably and soon face if they persist in their hatred of truth.

[@trafficjon400]

Your out of context. its not what they feel. they want a little understanding. but no they get Hell from you and your rushing evil ignorant thoughts on them. you be ware of the place you don't have a clue about. Grace i believe and Repent or heat awaits you.

[@Jesus-my-King53]

Thank you for your love for the things of GOD 😍

[@mariashaikh2148]

Thank you so much for these awesome presentations.

[@davenaicker4115]

Thanks brother Mike. Doing a great and blessed work

[@darrendelong]

Best respond is to ask yourself deep down inside, do your research, keep an open mind instead of trying to defend what you think you believe because someone question your faith.

[@wesleygordon1645]

The evidence for the Bible is very clear other religious writings are not.

[@barbarahawkins7864]

Here’s another helpful video ♥️♥️

[@HH-lr2zt]

I always figured Judas tried to kill himself by cutting his abdomen opened, but when that didn't work, he hung himself. Mike's list of solutions makes much more sense.

[@jackieramsbottom7458]

There's medical accounts of the stomach walls being forced open and spilling out when one hangs themselves from a high enough point. God bless you and your family.

[@rfinky1]

Glad to hear your comments regarding question marks regarding contradictions. One that seems to be a clear contradiction is how did Judas purchase the field with the price of iniquity in Acts when in Matthew it clearly says that he threw the pieces of silver into the temple then went and hanged himself. This brings up another contradiction, how could Judas and the Priests both have bought the field of blood? We shouldn't do mental gymnastics to try and explain away discrepancies when they are clear. Just put a question mark there. PS, you even gave the verses in a slide at the 19:10 point of this video.

[@davidmattches4020]

There are clearly differences in the text, it's stupid to try and argue out of it, that's OK, it makes it more authentic. The problem arises when you claim it to be, "The Word of God". I ask, but he doesn't answer...

[@ryanbrown4053]

​@@davidmattches4020how does this make it not the Word of God?

[@DeanMartinson-ci3lk]

People interpret things differently and it’s all perspective. I am believer in Christ for many years and I never found any contradictions or errors in the Bible. I usually read out of the new American standard or new King James Version 📖✝️🙏🏻

[@JB-ti7bl]

One contradiction I have found in the Old Testament is: Early on it is said that a man shall not live more than 120 years. But, then after that there are lots of men who live longer. I believe they are even born after the prohibition is made, so they can't have been grandfathered in.

[@Adam-ox6zy]

OR another way to look at that passage is that it is actually a prophecy given by God that it would be 120 years until the flood that killed all people except the 8 on the ark.

[@celiasleigh2805]

It says man not a man. I would have to check but I think it was predicting the flood.

[@thatbtchinthecomments9978]

​@@Adam-ox6zy Ooohhh I've never heard that interpretation, I'll have to look more into that.

[@laurapearson4689]

Great work! Thank you again :D

[@philipbuckley759]

maybe Christian Churches should have a better way to teach the Bible.....as some of these things I never learned....

[@trafficjon400]

They can't. for some strange reason. They also won't go to the hard hit verses people say are flawed or con- . they don't dare for not much to explain this. God said for man not to , but it looks like man did.

[@jeffalexander195]

The responsibility is yours, to search the scriptures daily. Be like the Bereans.

[@TNCelt1]

There's a saying in my business... "There sure are a lot of shoppers, but not very many buyers..." There were people in Jesus's day who walked with Jesus and still didn't believe. There are many today who wouldn't believe even if you answered correctly to every contradiction. As they say; "misery loves company..."

[@chad969]

There are also people living today who would have believed if they encountered the same kind of evidence that the disciples did, but because of the time and place of their births, they will never be given the evidence they need to believe. There are also people in the gospels such as Thomas, who clearly wouldn't have believed in Jesus if all he had to rely on was the kind of ancient manuscript evidence that we have in 21st century. Isn't it strange that when the disciples need to see the risen Jesus in order to believe, they're given the evidence they need to believe. Or when merely seeing Jesus isn't enough, and they need to see him eat a piece of fish to prove he's not an apparition (Luke 24), they're given the evidence they need to believe. And when all that evidence isn't enough and Thomas needs to feel Jesus wounds in order to believe, he's given the evidence he needs to believe. But when the rest of the worlds skeptics require anything remotely close to that same standard of evidence in order to believe, we can all just go straight to hell for not believing these ancient stories. That's exactly the kind of double standard one should expect from a false religion.

[@joshlane724]

Are you still using this channel? I have questions on the topic of discussing the Bible with atheist and their beliefs on contradictions.

[@Justinsatiable]

It's not just a matter of number. It's a matter of WHERE and WHEN. Did a single angel appear outside the tomb or two angels inside the tomb? Did the angel speak to them while sitting on the boulder or inside the tomb? Was the stone rolled away before they got there or by the angel after they arrived?

[@samforsyth]

I think a lot of these small contradictions are geared toward fundamentalists. people who think every word of the bible is literally true and inspired to be written down by God. Under that belief system ANY error or contradiction, no matter how small, is a serious case against fundamentalism because God wouldn't make mistakes, or get any details wrong.

[@bf5180]

Yes and the small contradictions are probably because of translation or misunderstanding of context

[@samforsyth]

@@bf5180 God made a mistake choosing scribes and translators then? He could have chosen people who would have gotten everything right.

[@bf5180]

@@samforsyth no not the originals but hundreds of years later when people tried transcribing it into languages like English that's when things got messed up

[@bf5180]

@@samforsyth and athiests take the scriptures out of context like the new and old covenant and when to take words figuratively and seriously

[@samforsyth]

@@bf5180 how do you know the originals are perfect since We don’t have any originals at all?

[@godisloveasmr]

For the examples of Luke 18:35-39 and Mark 10:46-47, around 13:47, could they not also be reconciled in that in both, Jesus was near Jericho but not within it? The blind men in each were both found near Jericho but not within it.

[@geletad502]

God bless you brother, this video helped me much

[@rccola0318]

Where is part 2?

[@livingtoaster1358]

I think your professor actually knew that and wanted you to look it up especially in a logics and critical thinking class they're the type to not take things at face value even what they say Mike looking it up in the bible and reading it for himself is critical thinking skills and it's important especially when someone is going to point out supposed bible contradictions

[@martinnyirenda2525]

To the question....Where was Jesus when He healed the man, you made a reference to the excavation of Ernst Sellin of the "Two Jerichos". Where can i find an image of that excavation of the two Jerichos, one Jesus went out of and the one He entered?

[@nasrinasri2382]

Can you please send the links for all the series of The Bible full of Contradictions!" to help one Muslim friend to answer his questions.- Thank you God bless

[@kehindeodunaike7273]

Very Very good information. 👍🏾

[@cmartin999]

13:10 "Blind man contradiction" that h Mike linked to in today's video

[@thelthrythquezada8397]

Gen 1 is the 6 day creation(plain Jane Adam/Man), Day 8 is Adam(Eth Ha Adam/ THEE Man) and company. The Hebrew tells it plan as day, yet people choose not to see it. 6 day creation were hunters and fishes, but God didn't have a person to till the ground, and so He created THEE Adam, the Bible is a snap shot of the line on Adam to Jesus, but God does tell us about everything, we just got to read, and yes in context.loving these series.

[@celiasleigh2805]

Or it's just a more detailed account of how humans were created. Adam called Eve the mother of all living.

[@timothyspatharos3755]

I like and appreciate your videos. You've helped me with many questions I've had. My newest question revolves around the word "table Throughout the New Testament the word table is used w out the word "the " before it. Any particular reason for this?

[@tatianaG]

I would like to share something that Jesus taught me.... do not put your trust or faith in something that can be corrupted in the hands of man, such as the bible, put your trust in Jesus Himself. He Himself is the Word of God and He doesn't share His title with a book. You argue and speak about a book MORE than you speak about your relationship with Jesus and what He has taught you directly as you walk with Him, which leads me to believe that you dont know Jesus personally, you just know ABOUT Him from reading other people's experiences. Do you realize those people wrote down what Jesus taught them so that you would go to Jesus for yourself and have a relationship with Him.... NOT so you would spend your life studying their experiences. I would encourage you to seek Jesus in prayer until you know His Voice so that you can be led by His Spirit, and not led by a book.

[@233yvan]

Mike; The word angel in Matt. 28; 1-8 is singular twice,therefore it mean only one angel. You have not solved this contradiction.....sincerely....

[@stevecarter9756]

For one witness to report that an angel was present does not contradict a report by another witness that multiple angels were present. You would have to have Matthew say there was only one angel present. The same would be true for any nightly news story were multiple sources were used for the story line.

[@mimishella4915]

The one account is angels inside the tomb. They were on either side. The other is a witness at a different time but, more importantly, a different place: outside the tomb on the stone. You could say the one on the stone was for moving it. The two inside were for guarding the inside or there to proclaim Christ's resurrection.

[@trafficjon400]

@J H Steve are u true of God. this you are not answering.

[@jeffalexander195]

Using the singular doesn’t mean ONLY, it means one is being spoken of at the time.

[@johnclhugyugihjbvgbkj9729]

Not to add fuel to the fire, but if you read the Bible you would automatically, from the atheist point, see the contradictions. But I am a Christian so I don’t believe they are contradictory at all either.

[@ecgodsmack86]

nice brother god bless

[@clarakesi]

I just see part 18, 19, 20. where are the others?

[@silverbanshee1770]

So I ran into a KZbin video of people saying that Jesus was a fictional character and was a made up character that the Romans wrote about and I don’t want this to be true at all and I’m praying that this isn’t true at all. Can someone clarify or comment on this please?

[@02122_]

There’s more evidence that Jesus was a real historical figure than there is for Julius Caesar. Scholars who argue that Jesus was a mythical figure are an extreme minority within modern scholarship. Bart Ehrman, who is atheist, wrote an entire book defending Jesus’s existence. Jesus’ existence is a historical fact with strong evidence supporting it, and that is the predominant academic viewpoint.

[@silverbanshee1770]

@@02122_ Gonna use this to evangelize now lol. Thank you! ✝️🙏

[@davidbergeron78]

The Acts account does not explicitly say Judas. You have to infer Judas form the prior verse. But the Acts person also bought the field with the silver that Judas threw back. So it seems the Acts person is the person than took the silver that Judas threw back, bought the field and was punished.

[@colurcreative]

That’s been my understanding as well. The man that fell wasn’t Judas but rather the one who purchased the field with the blood money. Mike provides an interesting answer to the supposed contradiction, I just didn’t think there was a need for one in the first place!

[@pastorslant]

I've just noticed something that I never noticed before that I'm struggling with... The account in Matthew saw the went and get the disciples because they thought his body had been moved and then Jesus shows up. In John, they arrive only to see the angel move the stone away and are then told that Jesus is not there, but that he'd gone to Galilee... So in one account, they leave to get the disciples and bring them back to the tomb and Jesus appears at the tomb. In the other they are told by the angel to go to Galilee to meet Jesus...

[@jaron5333]

Inspiring Philosophy has a video about this. Supposed Bible Contradiction part 26

[@Anon0nline]

I love how Mike Winger outright lies and intentionally uses straw man fallacies here, which is demonstrated by the fact he doesn't show any sources that would indicate these are the contradictions cited by mainstream critics.

[@michaelmagee4318]

TROLL

[@Anon0nline]

@@michaelmagee4318 Bulverism detected. Into the trash you go.

[@lennypichardoborrello6532]

Does faith depends on the bible having or not contradictions?

[@tofryx]

A friend of mine had a similar experience where a teacher taught his class that the bible has many contradictions, giving the example of the number of animals that were to go on the Ark, 1 pair or 7 pairs. He asked me about it, and since I hadn´t heard of this example I just read the text and immediately saw that it wasn´t a problem. 1 pair of all, 7 pairs of the clean animals. My advice will always be to just read the text, most "contradictions" fall apart right away.

[@MikeWinger]

Context is king.

[@Ken_Scaletta]

This doesn't work. Genesis 6:19 says, "And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every sort into the ark to keep them alive with you." Two of every sort. Not 14. No wiggle room. You should take your own advice and try actually reading the Bible. You obviously never have, as most Christians never have.

[@MikeWinger]

+Ken Scaletta if you read the whole passage, into chapter 7, it clarified two of every unclean and seven of the clean. Unless you think the author intends to contradict himself only a few sentences after his initial statement. It seems silly to assume such a contradiction rather than clarification. That attitude of assuming contradiction could never be applied to other books without concluding them all utterly full of contradiction.

[@ecgodsmack86]

Blake Hawkey Can I ask you a question brother Do you believe that George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Davy Crockett existed?

[@TaylorWalston]

Can you pick an American politician that was 600 years old for a better comparison?

[@fyrerayne8882]

Lets all take a moment to appreciate the parallel between Jesus as carpenter and son of a carpenter (Joseph), and Jesus as God and Son of God (Yahweh).

[@RadarRecon]

Another explanation of the carpenter/son of carpenter problem is that Jesus was learning, during his youth, to do the work of his father - correction, his Father. In that day, a son was to pursue a vocation at the age of 20 and to "enter into one's full vigor" at the age of 30 (Pirkot Avot 5:21), as Jesus did (Luke 3:23). It was during this 10 years (and even before, as evidenced by his comment when Mary and Joseph found him at the temple) that he was learning from his Father. True, he may have been a carpenter ALSO, but his main job was to get prepared for his ministry as a prophet (Luke 24:19) and apostle (Heb. 3:1). " I speak these things as the Father taught Me." (John 8:28 NASB)

[@Someguy1357]

There's a problem here that I think is getting glossed over. The presence of a single contradiction is damning for the Bible, Tanakh, or Qur'an (all of which are claimed to be the word of God). It doesn't matter if the contradiction is minor or major. The fact that it exists means something is untrue in the book, which means it CANNOT be from God. The standard for truthfulness from GOD is higher than general conversation, because God does not make mistakes. Another problem here is that what's often ignored are the other factors to consider: 1. Often, we make up context that isn't reasonable or remotely suggested by the text itself to rationalize some contradictions (e.g. different lineage of Jesus). 2. Anonymous and pseudopigraphical nature of the Gospels, which suggest ulterior motives wihich only human beings. 3. Synoptic nature of the first 3 Gospels, so some accounts are identical in some parts, meaning they're discussing the same event. 4. Historical context. The gospels were not written at the same time. Each Gospel appears well after its predecessor. Mark > Matthew > Luke > John. John diverges significantly from the rest. 5. The lack of an authentic original source text, tied directly to Jesus, to compare later accounts to. In light of this, there are reasonable conclusions that better explain the abundance of contradictions than the answers people usually tout. Usually, they end with the conclusion that the Bible is a work of many men, subject to the errors of man.

[@thelordjesusisyhwh7305]

I still didn’t understand the Roman time and the Jewish time for the crucifixion hour....

[@arhylle]

The Jewish day starts at 6am. Roman day started at 12am, like ours does.

[@thelordjesusisyhwh7305]

Ethereal Rhyme oh ok sorry 😬 god bless you and may the Lord Christ Jesus be with you

[@emeraldcave5441]

The Bible has no contradiction: 1)Question:How many pairs of clean animal did God tell Noah to take into Ark? a) 2 (Genesis 6:29,20) b) 7(Genesis 7:2) answer 2 pair of animal male and female whether unclean or clean animal take into the ark. 7 group of selected a pair clean animal take into the ark. 2)when David defeated King Sabah, how many horsemen did he captured? a) 1, 1700 (2 Samuel 8:4) b) 7,000 (1 Chronicle 18:4) answer both verses 2 Samuel 8:4 and 1 Chronicle 18:4 the same figure 7, 000 horsemen. 3). Question:How many stall horses did Solomon have? a) 40,000 horses chariot b) 4,000 horses and chariot. Answer:,for every one chariot there are 2 horses stall. 1,000 chariot ready to fight. 1,000 x 2horses stall =40,000 horses chariot while other one 4,000 chariot have 4,000 horses is equivalent 4,000 horses and chariot. 4Question)Did Jesus ascend the paradise the same day of crucifixion? a) yes (Luke 23:43) b) No Jesus said to Mary Magdalene two day later I have not yet to the Father (John 20:17) answer: Jesus said to the thief who hanging crufied on the cross who defend Jesus and believes Jesus today you will with me in my paradise. The thief save jesus christ today as listed his name to heaven upon believes in Jesus. The the believer thief upon the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ he will be included the resurrection of all believer to go to heaven at the time of rupture. Jesus Christ upon his death on the cross he will not immidi0ately ascended to heaven because at the time his list of life on the cross. He will be buried and after 3 days he will resurrected there some activities will happened before he ascended to heaven. He will appeared to 12 deciples, he will appeared to Mary Magdalene, his mother and other women, he will appeared 500. brother and sister in the Lord as mention 1 Corinthian 15 and he will give the deciple great commission to preach the gospel and baptising them mention Matthew 28:19,20 after finished all his activities he will ascended to heaven. The thie who believes in Jesus will meet him upon the resurrection of a dead at his 2nd coming. 5)Question: where was Jesus at sixt hour on the day of crucifixion? a) on the cross(mark 15:23) b) in Pilate court(John 19:14) at around 6 o'clock in the morning Jesus was in the court of Pilate to read the verdict od execution death penaltybon the cross. After 6 hours Jesus hanging on the cross of his crucifixion in Mark 15:33, 34 around 3 pm there was a darkness over the whole land until 9th hour Jesus cried a loud voice saying my God my God why do you forsaken me. there was an earth wuaken and the veilnof the temple rent in twain from top to the bottom.

[@megamillion2461]

Um can I ask you something can I copy and paste you comment so I can use it and two how do I copy and paste another person comment and mobile because it won’t let me

[@jimwinchester339]

Mike, FYI: There are only just over 31,000 verses in the entire Bible. That should deal with the >40,000 contradictions thing.

[@waywed]

Why did God not ensure that the original texts of the New Testament were clearly identified and preserved thereby ensuring that there could be no confusion with other writings (eg Gospel of Thomas), and textual variations caused by subsequent copying errors over the centuries?

[@friedrichrubinstein]

The texts of the New Testament _are_ clearly identified. The "gospel of Thomas" is utter nonsense, have you ever read it? Nobody who knows the Bible would ever think that writing should belong in the New Testament. The Scriptures were inspired by the Holy Spirit when the authors wrote them. The translators weren't inspired though. If God would not allow false translations then every Jack and Harry could sit down and start translating the Bible without even knowing the original language well, and God had to "dictate" them what to write to avoid mistranslations. Obviously not how God is and works. Instead God made sure that the original texts are preserved in such extensive amounts that there is no question what the original text says. There are more than 25,000 manuscripts of the New Testament - much more than for any other document of antiquity.

[@waywed]

@@friedrichrubinstein Every Jack and Harry did, for the better part of 300 years, write gospels and epistles - some very early. Some were even considered canon at one time or another (eg Epistle of Barnabas, Shepherd of Hermas, Apocalypse of Peter, 3rd Corinthians). In fact there are probably twice as many Christian writings left out of the new testament canon as are in it! All these works reflected the many different christian narratives that sprang up immediately after the death of Jesus. You may think it was God guiding the selection of just one of these narratives (and the set of books/writings that supported that narrative), but history demonstrates it was more likely plain old power and politics.

[@friedrichrubinstein]

@@waywed In case you didn't know: God is in control of "power and politics", lol.

[@waywed]

@@friedrichrubinstein Really? Not obvious to me!

[@friedrichrubinstein]

@@waywed Yep. Read Romans 13:1 :)

[@gabriellameattray9778]

I still dont understand the Genesis thing at 23:40

[@friedrichrubinstein]

Genesis 1 is the full creation-account. Genesis 2 is a detailed account of *day 6 only.* God creates a garden (in the previously created landscape) and lets fruit trees grow in the garden (he doesn't create trees in general, only fruit trees and only in the garden. Outside the garden there are trees since day 3 already). Then he makes 1 of each animal as example to show Adam in order to find a helper for him, and also getting all birds and land-animals named. All animals (and also the water-animals God doesn't show Adam here) exist outside the garden already, God only makes 1 of each for Adam here. So here is not a contradiction between Genesis 1 and 2. Genesis 2 is complementing Genesis 1.

[@hycynth82828]

24:50 it does happen a lot. One time they told me the sto4y of the “another Jesus” bc this man supposedly did everything Jesus dis first, actually I think that is one of the first videos I saw of Mike bc the examples really confused me, I turned to realise there are college professors who use it as an explanation on their classes, they are masters I bet they know it’s not exactly the same, they just wanna confuse people.

[@John14-6...]

We can definitely believe the Bible is the inspired and inerrant word of God by taking supposed contradictions as "our" incomplete knowledge.

[@iretonjeff2559]

I have yet to watch the other videos so you may have an answer for this, but i sincerely desire an answer to the seeming contradiction in the gospel accounts of the prophecy Jesus gave regarding his denials of Christ the night he was betrayed, specifically whether the cock crew before 3 denials, as Jesus prophesied would not happen in two gospels, but which happened in another.

[@vhviki]

Thank God for Mike Winger

[@debrasmith4675]

I see them as curbs on the road. You can go only so far to the right or to the left to remain on the road.

[@albertrenshaw4252]

2:00 - the Bible, a book of 31,000 verses, has 40,000 contradictions? 🧐

[@MrGene-jj7xj]

Pastor Mike, may the Lord bless you in your teachings that help to equip His children.

[@GSpotter63]

tod beard Why does Joseph (Jesus’s supposed father) have two different fathers listed in Matthew 1:16 and Luke 3:23? Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ. Luke 3:23 Now Jesus Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, the son of Heli. First, a few preliminary comments need to be addressed. Luke’s genealogy is complete, and Matthew’s is merely a selected one. Matthew’s genealogy was not meant to be complete according to Matthew 1:17, where it is specifically broken into groups of 14. The two genealogies trace through two of David’s sons, and both trace to Abraham. Matthew focuses on the kingly relationship through David and, ultimately, to the Jewish patriarch Abraham. However, Luke doesn’t stop there. He continues to trace Christ’s genealogy back to Adam. Luke focuses more on the humanity of Christ going back to Adam, where sin and death first entered into creation-hence the need for a Savior in the first place. Another note is that both genealogies are aware of Mary’s virgin birth. For example Matthew says: “Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom (feminine) was born Jesus.” Luke is more obvious in that he says: “being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph.” With regards to the alleged “two fathers” of Joseph, the explanation of the differences between Matthew 1 and Luke 3 is quite simple. Luke traced Christ’s lineage through Mary, while Matthew traced it through Joseph. Matthew’s Genealogy One of the main reasons Matthew is recording Joseph’s lineage is due to Jeconiah (variant spellings: Jechonias, Jehoiakim). He is listed in Matthew 1:11. Because of Jeconiah’s actions, a prophecy came down that none of his descendants would ever sit on the throne of David. Jesus, who forever sits on this throne, could not have been a physical descendant of Jeconiah (Jeremiah 22:30). A virgin birth would obviously prevent this. This indicates that Matthew’s genealogy is Joseph’s, and this confirms the significance of the feminine verbiage. When Matthew mentioned Joseph’s wife, Mary, at the end of the genealogical list, he used the feminine form for the parent of Jesus. This reveals that Jesus was indeed Mary’s son and not Joseph’s. Luke’s Genealogy When looking at Luke 3, the genealogical list is strictly men from Jesus to Adam, whereas in Matthew’s list, some women were included, such as Tamar, Ruth, and so on. So, if this were a genealogy of Mary, then she would be listed. JOSEPH, WHEN HE MARRIED MARY, BECAME THE SON OF HELI ACCORDING TO THE LAW OF MOSES AND COULD LEGALLY BE INCLUDED IN THE GENEALOGY. Moreover, in the genealogy, Heli is listed as the father of Joseph, who had 2 daughters. The first is Mary, and the other was Zebedee’s unnamed wife (Matthew 27:56; John 19:25). When there were no sons to preserve the inheritance in accordance with the Law of Moses (Numbers 27:1-11; Numbers 36:1-12), the husband would become the son upon marriage to keep up the family name. Therefore, Joseph, when he married Mary, became the son of Heli according to the Law of Moses and could legally be included in the genealogy. Also, in Luke’s genealogy the form is different from that of Matthew’s. Matthew’s list gives the father and who they begot (Greek gennao). In Luke the form is different, where X is the son of Y. But more precisely, the word son is absent in Greek, but only inserted into English so we can better understand it. The only place where son is used in the Greek is in verse 23 where Jesus was the supposed son of Joseph, of Heli, of Matthat, of Levi, and so on. Luke is being very precise. Jesus was thought to be the son of Joseph, who was of Heli. Notice that Luke never said that Joseph was the son of Heli in the Greek. This reduces the alleged contradiction to nothing and shows that Luke’s genealogy is Mary’s-with Joseph’s name listed due to inheritance laws-and Matthew’s genealogy is Joseph’s. answersingenesis.org/bible-timeline/genealogy/whats-in-a-fathers-name/ Like nearly every supposed contradiction. They are assumed simply because most choose not to look for a solution. In this day of instant information from the net. Such excuses are indefensible. What I find most disturbing is that Bart Ehrman continues to use this. So....Is he truly ignorant of this or is he being deceptive on purpose?

[@dianeexley1709]

Seems like one rolled away the stone and two were inside the tomb.

[@Airvian]

Why would Mark use the Jewish time system if he was writings to gentiles? If that was Matthew that would make sense. Did the gentiles living in that area also use the same system?

[@trafficjon400]

Mark is not here about this for a bad reason. not Good.

[@thomasbecketanyintuo7220]

If Genesis 1 and 2 are complementary, what is your take on the theory that God created a first woman in Gen 1 who was not submissive to Adam and so God had to make Eve from Adam's rib?

[@maow9240]

AH THE MIGHTY LILITH!!!!

[@benedektoth2646]

In Genesis 1 God created the plants on the third day, but Genesis 2 seemingly says there were no plants anywhere even at the time Adam was created. Or does Gen 2:6 implicitly say that plants were created simultaneously with the watering of the whole ground?

[@awakeningfaith2290]

They believe it's a literary writing style. All through the OT you will find the same thing. A story, then a recap summary on the story. Another possibility is after the northern 10 tribes rebelled and separated, the stories which were mostly oral took form in the north 10 tribes, and the 2 remaining in Jerusalem thus giving us the two. Scholars have debated it for years.

[@CHE-Undercover]

is it possible that an early scribe saw son twice in a row, thought it was a mistake, and removed one? Or that an early scribe wrote son twice by accident? Idk greek but just a theory. Seems like an easy mistake to make.

[@collenmakgopa2875]

I'm a Christian but let me give you my best example Acts 9:7 and Acts 22:9. i'll wait for the reply

[@danepage9735]

I see what you mean…

[@joseg.solano1891]

Well, it says they saw the light, not the person. God bless

[@kameel68]

Do you know Lloyd Evans? He claims to have found 30 contradictions in the Bible.

[@VicCrisson]

Commenting for algorithm

[@Justinsatiable]

There is no harmonizing the angels at the tomb unless 3 angels are present and the message is delivered to the women twice.

[@stevecarter9756]

For one witness to report that an angel was present does not contradict a report by another witness that multiple angels were present. You would have to have Matthew say there was only one angel present. The same would be true for any nightly news story were multiple sources were used for the story line.

[@jeffalexander195]

Read Cold Case Christianity by J. Warner Wallace, you’ll see your actually mistaken, not intentionally, just using a false standard.

[@Justinsatiable]

@@jeffalexander195 already read it. It's incorrect. It doesn't account for the differing location of the angels

[@jeffalexander195]

@@Justinsatiable What differing locations??? I do not know what you are trying to read into the accounts, but you're just wrong on this, sorry. I am trying to be as kind as I can, but it seems as if you have made a decision on what you think happened and you're not going to entertain any other ideas. There are no locational differences such as you are asserting. Do the messengers move around? Of course they do, we can deduce as much from Matthews account; Matthew 28:6 ..."Come, and see the place where the LORD lay." COME - the Greek deute which means to follow, you only follow someone by going from one place to another. You don't seem willing to approach this with an open mind, and that is your right to do so, but that doesn't allow for intellectual growth or development. The 4 Gospel accounts do not have contradictions, they have variations, which only serve to make them more reliable.

[@jeffalexander195]

@@Justinsatiable BTW; your response of 'already read it' is a good indicator that you in fact did not read it.

[@TheRavenCapitalTCapitalR]

Exodus 7:14-25. If all the waters of Egypt were blood, even in wooden and stone containers, and they had to dig near the Nile to get drinking water.... What exactly did the magicians do? In order to keep it simple, I'll just say, keep reading it until you realize that all the waters in Egypt were blood, even in wooden and stone containers, and they had to dig near the Nile to get drinking water, what exactly did the magicians do? I need to know how literal to take the scriptures. I am a believer, but I need to know how literal I am supposed to believe. If the flood was 4500 years ago, instead of the 10,600 or so years ago that many atheist scientists claim to have evidence for, then something is wrong if people are willing to agree that events happened, but at different times and to different degrees, because of a book that may or may not be meant to be taken as historical fact, written about a guy referred to in third person, that mentions his own death, and yet continues the story and as if it's the same writer. I may have lost my closest friend, because "Moses wrote the first five books of the scriptures". "Then why does it say he died and no one knows where he is buried till this day? Nobody knows where he was buried means that the very person who wrote the book and just said that his eyes were not weak nor his strength gone", wasn't there. Yet the writer is acting like they knew every single detail to his life, Noah's life, and a ton of other people's lives. Who wrote the books? Am I supposed to take these things as literal? My friend says yes. My friend says if I don't believe it literally, then what's the point of believing any of it? If Moses wasn't real, then why was he at the mount of transfiguration? I don't know,.... how would anyone have known what he looked like if he didn't talk, because you aren't supposed to talk to dead people? So, to me, this simple question sums up whether or not I have to believe it was all literal or not. If all the waters of Egypt were blood, even in wooden and stone containers, what exactly did the magicians do? Any help?

[@thesouringgentleman]

Raven Light, I'm not a believer. I used to be. My advice would be to keep immersing yourself into the Bible and try to read it as inspired works, not simply factual. There is history there, and there is poetry in obvious places, such as palms. But that doesn't exclude works like Matthew where there is symbolism wrapped in factual accounts. There is much to know about the cultures in which these books came from. There is history, poetry, midrash, etc. Unless you're studying Greek and ancient history for a Masters of Divinity, I'd say read, and let your common sense preside. Just because it isn't all factual accounts doesn't mean it's all false. As for the flood, I wouldn't expect the people of that time to be able to pinpoint a time in history. We have our own oral history of a great flood from the native Americans in my area. They claim it was 7,000-8,000 years ago. A thousand year difference?! It must be complete garbage? But there is scientific proof of a huge flood in our region. Scientists claim it happened 8k-10k years ago. Also, I don't believe Moses existed, but there is a lot of truth in those stories. I love Bishop John Shelby Spong and his interpretation of the text. Even still, if your friends abandon you based on how you're understanding your religion, maybe they don't really belong in your life. This all coming from an atheist, though, so beware.

[@TheRavenCapitalTCapitalR]

@@thesouringgentleman Naw, see, I met God, so I know He's real, and I met Jesus too. And the Holy Spirit, so I know for a fact, that they are real, because God explained Himself scientifically to me. It was just the literal parts that are very specific. See, flood evidence is one thing, and a worldwide flood that is still covering places where people built pyramids, An insane flood to be sure, is another. But the misquoting of God, that kind of, what do you do, if you know one thing is true, and maybe the only reason many believe in God, is from some not truths..... The parables still shine, but the precision, is what I was asking. I feel similar to you, but I still know that He's real. In fact, I met Him 18 years ago, and only now tried to read the book. So, I'm like, wait.... literally? I don't think so. But, then, how is He still real, and does that make The God that came to me, any different? Omnipresent... this reality is like a hologram. And He's on the other side with the computer. AS the program. So, Jesus is real, due to that fact, He IS the word of God. In reality, that's why we accept Him. He represents the fact that we exist at all. like a binary system. But that that glow creates a field of light around it, so if it's being assessed as light, the first, and the second, then the combination of the first and the second, would be it's own light. Now it can create. But ultimately, it is only one, the third one proves it. So, technically, you wouldn't be able to get to the father, without the son. Then you'd be a part of it. Helping maintain it's optimal capacity, because you yourself are inside of it. If you used to believe, and now are an atheist, I'd love to hear your response, after reading the first church of revelations. It was put on my heart, that that one, is Atheism. ( a revelation I was given about all of them, personally) I used to be that. So I recognized it, Revelations 2:1 just that church.... That's it. Atheism. I've come a little ways ideologically since I wrote the last comment, but yeah, parables that people altered, maybe to make them feel like they knew where the beginning was. Instead of leaving it a mystery, make a calendar, not feel like you just came out of the forests. But, you'd have to embellish some of the stories to make things fit whatever people might ask. These tribes are over here, because they all came from one person. Or whatever. Could have just been a hub of tribes. Nobody knows where they came from. But you're here now, welcome. By the way, here's the king, and God in a box. It's fine, it's not shaped like an animal. No big deal. And sometimes with the sacrifices.

[@thesouringgentleman]

Raven Light my point was that you don't have to abandon your belief in God just because of the timing of a flood. If you read your scripture in the way that someone like John Shelby Spong does, (look him up on KZbin) the Bible becomes a beautiful expression of god- breathed spiritual scripture. If you're trying to taken it all literally, you're even ignoring ultra conservative biblical scholars like F.F. Bruce, and your faith becomes a struggle to understand. I'm not saying give up belief, I'm saying, as an atheist who once believed God spoke to me, read the Bible as a witness of the love of God, understanding that you don't know enough about ancient history to make it all fit right now. The Bible is a revelation and one should read it as such.

[@julietrae8665]

YER REACHING WITH JUDAS..WHAT ABOUT THE 30 PIECES OF SIVER, WAS IT THROWN, OR USED FOR BUYING THE FIELD?

[@stevecarter9756]

The contractor built the house - but he never picked up a hammer?

[@kofibonsu8466]

@@stevecarter9756 haha lol

[@Adam-ox6zy]

Read Matt 27: 6 The chief priests, picking up the pieces of silver (that Judas threw at their feet), said, “It is not lawful to put these in the treasury [of the temple], because it is the price of blood.” 7 So after consultation THEY (the chief priests) used the money to buy the Potter’s Field as a burial place for strangers. 8 Therefore that piece of ground has been called the Field of Blood to this day.

[@maplebob23]

The other day I was watching a KZbin video where two cartoons were debunking a Christian’s debunking of evolution. The cartoon characters were relatively static, most of the animation being blinking. And all three of the voices sounded pretty much the same. Having mischief in mind, I entered the comment section, but thought better than to continue with my planned sarcasm. For the most part, most commenters where on about some lie in the Book of Hebrews, I think. Whatever it was didn’t interest me enough to look it up. But one commenter knew the Bible was a lie because it says ants have four feet, or legs, or something. If this is so, that would be QED on the Bible’s veracity, yet I have never heard of this. Why didn’t Peter Jennings use this in his doc?

[@joshuasalcedo3630]

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[@victordominguez2091]

How about Jesus genealogy?

[@awakeningfaith2290]

What about it ?

[@victordominguez2091]

@@awakeningfaith2290 im asking why didn’t he explain that one. read the genealogy of Jesus side by side in the gospels they are different

[@awakeningfaith2290]

@@victordominguez2091 I'll study that out, I have an idea but I don't want to speak before I know what I'm talking g about

[@chriscruz4281]

How do you get your hair to stay like that?! Kool.

[@nurnazd6631]

So who create the universe?

[@wesleygordon1645]

Simple question,only the Bible gives best account !

[@dngministries144]

is it also possible judas had the rope around his neck, then gutted himself like a japanese suicide and therefore because of the gutting fell forward and thus hung and gutted himself simultaneously?

[@robbyclark6915]

The thing with contradictions and supposed miss information that invalidates the Bible as being supernatural and inerrant, is that “to the faithful no further evidence is required, but to the faithless no amount of evidence is sufficient.” It doesn’t matter how perfect the Bible is or isn’t or how reliable or sufficient or even if one “came back from the dead” to warn the unbeliever. Just like the answer came to the “rich man” They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them. For even if one comes back from the dead, they will not believe. I don’t mean not to support the Bible or the arm yourself with information and take up the cause of defending the scriptures. I’m just saying that most will never believe regardless of the amount of evidence you provide. If one does not want to believe, they will never be convinced until they enter eternity without the Savior.

[@wbdill]

For a text that is either written by or at least inspired by a perfect being, I would expect the text to be 100% clear with no contradictions or inconsistencies. It would not need apologists to defend it because it would stand on its own merit. What we see in the bible is exactly what we would expect from fallible human authors; not an omniscient and omnipotent being. Some charitable license is reasonable to request, but the amount of mental gymnastics that apologists must go through to justify scripture belies the idea of divine authorship. Ex: Judas' death. If he was hanged and then his guts fell out later then it is simply wrong to describe his death as being gutted. His death was from the hanging. If you describe his death as gutting when he died from hanging, then you have failed to accurately describe Judas' death. Its fine if you want to ADD that his guts spilled out in addition to the hanging, but if you omit telling that he was hanged then you are a failure at giving accounts.

[@Greenbd100]

chris mabe Bwahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂 You speak as if you were there. That is the lamest explanation I’ve heard.

[@wbdill]

If you think the Bible is consistent, I encourage you to read "Misquoting Jesus" by Bart Ehrman who is a respected new testament scholar. The number of contradictions in just the new testament is staggering. The bible is not what most people are told it is when they grew up. As I mentioned in my first comment, if Judas died by hanging and THEN he fell and his guts fell out, then it is a complete *FAILURE* for the author of Acts to omit that CRUCIAL detail that Judas died by HANGING and not buy being gutted. Text written by an omniscient being simply would not fail to omit such a critical detail.

[@wbdill]

You are missing the point of Ehrman's quote and my comment. We aren't talking about the same thing. I'm not talking about variants of early copies. For the sake of argument I'll even grant that there are no textual variants. What I am talking about is the message as delivered by any given translation (ex NIV). THAT's the contradictions and failures of which I speak.

[@Greenbd100]

chris mabe Bwahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yyyyeah....that’s like saying “If there were no contradictions in certain belief systems, there would be no Catholics, Muslims, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, Jews, Scientologists....the list is endless

[@Greenbd100]

chris mabe yeah keep telling yourself that. You’ll keep believing it

[@ArielManxx]

Maybe Dr. Groover saw potential in young pastor Mike and treated him karate-kid style😅

[@aaronwood8012]

Or maybe the legend the gospel writer was collecting was based on an event perceived from different perspectives- maybe someone saw a thing and they thought he was moving in one direction and someone else saw the event and thought he was moving in another direction - if all these narratives were “fake” then they’d have erased these discrepancies

[@somebodyelseathome]

Can you go over how when Jesus meets the two demon possessed men in Matthew 8? Other gospels have just one. Also what about Matthew 10:28? It mentioned the soul being destroyed in Hell where similar passages just say tossed into it?

[@afterraincomessun]

i like that passage : the demons know who Jesus is:What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time? so : Jesus is the son of God and not God himself AND there wil come a time of judgement

[@stevecarter9756]

@@afterraincomessun To highlight one perhaps as the spokesman does not contradict another report of two or more. One witness would nave to say there was only one for that to be a problem.

[@gabriellafaithmckenzie]

Another dope video Mike!