Full Power Kubaton Strikes | Testing Self Defense Weapons Against Coconuts and Boards

[@hard2hurt]

Question for viewers: What self defense tools should we look at next?

[@shitstick-i9h]

You could probably do taser guns or brass knuckles. Brass knuckles are exactly force multipliers and you can clinch and grapple without a hassle. It's hard for your opponents to take it away from you. I'm not sure how to carry it though.

[@Jenjak]

I wonder how real or effective is self defense with a scarf. You know what I mean? All those grappling techniques they do in South east Asian martial arts like Silat ...

[@christophervelez1561]

This is hilarious to watch. You guys should do the self defense hat. Basically it's a weighted hat that you can slap someone with.

[@Uwe040]

Have you looked into the Kimber Pepper Blaster and the JPX Pepper Gun? Might be interesting to see how well you can place two shots while being attacked.

[@arbogast4950]

I want to see you guys hurt yourselves with a 3 section staff 🤣

[@jessekaiman5182]

"She's short stroking it" "She's used to that" LOL

[@SaftonYT]

To be fair Mike set him up perfectly and I think he realized it based on the fact that he was laughing even before Jay said anything. Those two just have that kind of dynamic and it only seems to get turned up to 11 when Kristen shows up xD Between this comment and Jay managing to break the board more easily with the mini kubaton, I can only imagine what Mike's revenge will be...

[@snazdogdbfan251]

5:47 someone should make a compilation of mike appreciating nature

[@dystopia5269]

"Why is everyone backing up?" "Cause you're incompentent" LMFAOOO

[@flamcheeseful]

Couldn't stab her way out of a paper bag.

[@arbogast4950]

Wushu weapons would make some great content. When I was a 19 year old idiot, I would carry a 9 section steel whip. Rope darts are fun too.

[@junichiroyamashita]

I second this, some wushu weapons would actually be very useful ,but their reputation has been tarnished by the kung fu charlatans. They are not common and pretty specialised tho so i don't think this is their specialization.

[@arbogast4950]

@@junichiroyamashita Kung Fu in general has been ruined by the charlatans. Its sad that some schools have to go back 100 years to find someone in their lineage that actually fought people.

[@iheelhookday1whitebelts22]

I haven’t commented in a long while but I love your videos Mike. I’m not even into self defense. I’m only interested in sport stuff. And yet I still watch everything you put out. That to me proves that you put out top tier content. Just wanted to say thanks.

[@karabiner159]

"THE JUICES OF MY ENEMIES" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bladetheatrics]

I think yall should check out the blackjacks/slapjacks/slunhshot family of pocket clubs. There are many techniques and styles and I would be interested in your opinion on them. It could also include the monkey fist using steel beatings. Awesome video love seeing yall having fun while cutting through the myths in the self defense/gear community

[@benb5960]

I’d be interested in seeing a blackjack evaluated, but bear in mind they’re illegal in some states (Florida for one).

[@bladetheatrics]

@@benb5960 For sure but that's a different discussion you have to know the rules about any weapon you carry before you use it or carry it

[@nickcarroll8565]

I’d rather learn how to fight with an umbrella or a cane. Imagine how demoralizing it would be to get whooped by an umbrella.

[@irishninja9857]

It would definitely suck to get hit in the head with that, but pain wise I think the sternum or collar bone would be just ungodly painful. I took a post driver to the top of the head at work and it split my skull but the pain wasn't really that bad. I didnt lose consciousness but it locked me up for a couple seconds. I actually went to Chipotle on the way to the hospital because I didnt realize how bad it actually was. It's an terrible feeling though. You feel sick to your stomach and that ringing sound is the worst. Just thinking about that sound makes my stomach hurt. Anyways you should test the whips out on those coconuts. It would be interesting to see what they can do to a hard target.

[@thedistracti0n993]

I flinched so bad every time she swung that glass breaker by the window.

[@geoffreyfletcher6976]

Kubotan is the trademark modern version of the palm stick known as a yawara, that was modernized by Tak Kubota, founder of Gosoku Ryu Karate. This palm staff was called a shubo, yawara, tebo, etc. (depending upon the school using or teaching it). The name of something in older times doesn't matter that much nowadays, for example before jujutsu was codified (with all it's variations of the name jujutsu), it was loosely known as yawara.

[@missbraindamage]

I like how they gave her shit for not doing it "well enough" but then they had the same trouble and even used other objects to hold the coconut.

[@michaelkartman3543]

“Your throwing coconut hair on my head” “You need the hair anyway.” When your son absolutely wrecks you 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jordanrenkert4176]

dudes, I hope you bring the buckler back into the vogue. That slow mo shot was epic

[@americopaez7080]

Based on just this video, i have a new respect for the kubaton. As a person who cracks open coconuts almost weekly (for consumption), a few observations: 1) Just because you don't see a visible crack, doesn't mean you haven't compromised the integrity of the shell. The sound of the coconut actually changes when you've made even the slightest of cracks. but as you weren't holding the coconut in your hands, and also doing the experiment outdoors, it may have been hard to tell how much damage you actually were doing 2) A human would be incapacitated, or at least seriously stunned before you completely crack open a coconut. Even after 20 years, I almost never get a full split on a coconut with my first strike, unless i'm intentionally trying prove a point, and even then, its usually a wild, barbarian swing. I usually use a hammer btw. 3) While scary, you may have had better results with the coconut in your non-dominant hand. Not too static, just enough give... etc. 4) I often also use a railroad spike (mimics the shape of the kubaton) to open the coconuts when i want precision in the size and shape of individual pieces, unfortunately, hammerfist strike never seemed like the best way to go, It just never felt like it produced enough force to be useful in opening the coconut. Even with the railroad spike, i use a downward swinging motion to get the best, fastest coconut cracking results

[@kalenleib5100]

"Its cuz you're incompitent..." Proceeds to fuck hand up on 'coconut holding stand'

[@Doomguyful]

It's not a force multiplier, it's a surface area divider.

[@don_cacao]

„cause you’re incompetent“ *hits his hand twice on the pipe😅

[@miguelsanchez8238]

Coconuts are tiny compared to a head. Hitting an area hard, without getting just a glancing blow, looks super difficult and painful....but very very funny. Thanks great video and put a smile on my face.

[@alenlutvica8344]

Could you make a video about bear hugs? In a multiple attacker situation they are a big problem. One attacker holds the person, while the other guy is punching the person. I was play fighting with my coworkers, and they did this to me, I was pissed.

[@edccigarsandguns9125]

The cold steel one it's made of plastic right I wonder If you could do a stipple job on it for better grip

[@derekvandenburg6689]

I think any if those would be nice to have in the console of your car. It would be real effective if someone was reaching in your car grabbing at you. I was thinking specifically if you are at a stop light, boxed in, at a intersection where there may be people on the side of the road with their signs begging? If you have a window down one might try to reach in your car. It would be a real nice weapon to stick them in the hand, arm, neck, face until you have a chance to drive away?

[@Nepthu]

I love how Mike marches out to ask if you want to hit a coconut with a Kubaton, and his wife acts like it's a normal question.

[@hard2hurt]

Well... it is for us.

[@johndidnot7210]

i used a home made Kubaton on hollow blocks and floor tiles, suprisingly effective when using straight solid rod type drawer handles

[@vudekcoomzos523]

What do you think of the carpet knife as an impromptu weapon

[@camorakidd_edc]

I honestly think a kubaton can change a fight. This will easily open up your forehead even from a light strike and now imagine the blood running into the eyes. Huge advantage. Also I think how you use it is important.. imagine somebody bigger grabs you and you are kind of overwhelmed.. you take that thing and press into his hand that's grabing you as hard as you can. If he doesn't let go he probably doesn't feel pain at all because he's a cyborg and you are done for.. I would personally say that a kubaton, a flashlight and a pepper spray are top of the list for self defense..

[@jc-kj8yc]

Can you please get a gel torso or a zombie head? I think you'd have a ton of fun with those. If you didn't already, maybe check out Skallagrim going apeshit on a Zombie head with the stinger whip. That could give you some ideas.

[@Desmont123]

Is he still ending em rightfully?

[@jc-kj8yc]

@@Desmont123 it's a never ending pommeling

[@robertapreston4200]

so you are growing in appreciation... good to learn👍👍

[@kylelindberg7771]

Can you put a link in the description for the coconut-holding stick? All my life I have been looking for a way to hold my coconuts!!

[@hard2hurt]

buy some shit that comes on a big tube... wait for your wife to be almost done with the shit on the big tube, snag tube.

[@ConernicusRex]

I don’t know why but this is my favorite icy mike video.

[@claverhouse1]

How long did it take you guys to find out coconut "milk" is strongly laxative?

[@Tanuki-Ha]

Something about force multipliers and training: Yes, you need to be able to apply force in the first place, otherwise nothin multiplied by 1000 is still nothing, BUT check this out: it's easyer to learn to apply force with a Kubotan. checkmate! srsly though from coach to coach: this little focussed impact tool, helps beginners to focus. They quickly learn how to hammer something down with a kubotan and then it takes only very little to teach them how to, without the weapon (or any other tool, like a flashlight or malfunctioning pepper spray e.g.). Have you considered this aspekt Icy Mike and what do you think about it? cmm

[@ScottGarrettDrums]

"They quickly learn how to hammer something down..." One of the most frightening things I've seen was a former gang member stab a Phillip's head screwdriver a good 2" through a sheet of 3/4" plywood. Dude told me some wicked stories about how he learned that focus. Let's just say bodies were dropped.

[@Tanuki-Ha]

@@ScottGarrettDrums Let's get fancy: is a screwdriver better than a Kubotan? I think the biggest problem here is that nobody would book a "self defense with a screwdriver" seminar actually ^^

[@paulpolito2001]

(0 * x) is gonna make for zero. True for math, true for force multiplication. Stated obvious more for the theory nerds, that lack of clarity.

[@hard2hurt]

@@Tanuki-Ha that's actually an interesting take... i disagree that it is an efficient way to teach people to strike... but it's an interesting way to think about it.

[@mr.chimichanga6947]

Am I wrong for thinking that the black one might have some alternative uses?

[@creeplife2802]

I think 1 good juicy connection to the dome with that will make someone retreat and/or fall to the ground in pain.

[@redactedcanceledcensored6890]

5:13 that's called a tactical self-defense chisel, they barely bend because hardened CrV steel

[@siegethompson3194]

It’s aircraft grade aluminum

[@siegethompson3194]

Either 6061 or 7075

[@JR-sz7dw]

I bought a cold steel buckler for Halloween a couple years back. Those things are no joke. They will stop knives and fit like a boxing glove.

[@bubblewhip382]

Hey Mike, being a BJJ blue belt and looking to do CCW. The gun club offers a class on hand to hand combat, but I'm concerned if it's going to be a BS class. Would you recommend instead i take that money and convince my coaches to do a private lesson with blue guns instead and try experiments that way?

[@MWall711]

You should try those tools against ballistic gel like they used to do during Mythbuster episodes.

[@trololoev]

does this belt cutter cut the belt?

[@danieldeleon451]

Coconut water is one of the best for hydration. All the kids on my track team in college sip coconut water between races.

[@danguillou713]

That coconut juice is nasty. Sickly sweet. Funny thing about hitting coconuts though: they brake more easily if you’re holding them than when they’re resting on a hard surface. Something about the springiness.

[@FlipTheCatOfficial]

I saw this ending so badly every single swing. And when you got hurt I was not surprised lol

[@nickarnold1622]

Mike is so done with his family in this one

[@MisterMisogynist]

I would love to see you guys do a video on these keychain knuckledusters that are really popular (the ones that look like cats or dogs or vampire skulls)

[@jusan_tinos]

Wow never been this early before

[@eduardocasado8486]

Same

[@reezyrey1828]

Fax

[@micaiahelliott8821]

That’s what she said

[@bookofdaveandsteve]

This is your time bro

[@siegethompson3194]

It’s aircraft grade aluminum. Similar hardness to many variations of steel. It bends, sure, but not at force that you’re able to produce.

[@VibeUkraine]

BTW Mike, how's your byceps? Did you get your arm back into shape? Cheers from Ukraine.

[@michaelriddick7116]

Omg ... when he catches his knuckles on the tube ... that was EXACTLY what I was afraid of!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕😊

[@step_indapool6799]

10:30 of the video, I thought I heard a plane. Are you guys close to an airport or something?

[@bushcraftingmuslim]

Coin pouch sap thingy test please!

[@petermcnallt12pm]

Mike you have said many times that kubotans don't work but yet you keep trying them? What's the verdict overall? Yay or nay?

[@complexblackness]

Lol

[@sephy980]

jay was looking rea l nervous near the end like he was expecting you to try some shit lol

[@shitstick-i9h]

I like how Icy Mike says there's gonna be a guy in the comment section that's going to be contradictory and negative with his reviews but in reality, nobody does that. It shows how he expects the worst.

[@hard2hurt]

Many people do that lol. The first day or so of comments is usually positive but as a video ages, haters start coming.

[@shitstick-i9h]

@@hard2hurt yeah it takes time for people to think or judge. i think its okay to disagree, just don't post a public comment thats overly negative that will otherwise affect the readers feelings. and i tend to agree with u most times because i lack knowledge in self defense. keep on thriving brother.

[@simoneriksson8329]

The cheap generic one seem to be the only one that could easely fit in a pocket... the other two might be better weapons but if you are willing and able to carry something that big there are probably even better alternatives... I agree with your opinion that kubatons sucks but the only upside I can see for it is that it is easy to carry and might not be identifyed as a weapon, both the Cold Steel and the Stinger fails at that. Just my thoughts, keep up the good work :)

[@passingthetorch5831]

You can buy bottles of coconut water (not milk), it's more refreshing than a sports drink

[@joelfoy5880]

You said before that the best self-defense tool is one that you always have. What about one of those new self-defense pens? I'd imagine it wouldn't be much different than a kubaton except it actually has multiple uses.

[@hard2hurt]

What about them?

[@Anna-t3v7r]

What would help to keep good grip use some glove s ..I go everywhere wareing glove it's my self defense prep for the worst , hope for the best ..

[@franktower9006]

I'm digging those shields!

[@SwordTune]

This kubaton video made me really want to buy a cold steel buckler.

[@hard2hurt]

lol everything makes me want to buy a cold steel buckler

[@garynaccarato4606]

Today on Hard 2 hurt we will now be learning how hard it is 2 hurt a coconut.

[@SocialMediaSoup]

Dude... that coconut is for shredding. 🤣🤣🤣

[@UrielManX7]

I wanna see Jay try to say the outro again sometime.

[@robmock2296]

How mikes wife just goin at it haha she’s so determined👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@mr28086]

I beg you please. Consider it a birthday present for me. Next time you smash something with a sheild, shout Zeus as loud and angry as you can.

[@areallybigdwarf4560]

swing at it with reckless abandon!1

[@photonguro]

i liked the coconut tasting bit

[@garynaccarato4606]

Now let's see whether or not the kubaton will come in handy for if you get stuck on a desert island and you need to open a coconut.

[@ReverendPop]

Ok I actually visited this video to find out if there were any practical pieces of advice for the use of a kubaton, because as you have demonstrated it has to be used at very close range with strikes similar to those used in Wing Chun. I did not expect the equivalent of teenagers messing around with broken beer bottles, not knowing what they were doing.😢

[@kirbyjoe7484]

Splitting a coconut is no joke. Half the time a ballpine hammer will bounce off one of those things.

[@manuelzapata1192]

I like how you guys are more interested in the coconuts than the dam weapon your using. Lol

[@inncubus666]

Why so many different names for a tiny lump of stick?

[@sithlordshellz2149]

you breaking the board reminds me on mortal kombat

[@douglasdreigh5083]

@hard2hurt during the shooting of this video, did anybody come out of a shop, look at you guys, check their pockets and go back inside?

[@icemanespoo2977]

I guess the neighbors are used to the local crazy guy doing weird stuff on the parking lot.

[@douglasdreigh5083]

@@icemanespoo2977 At least there's a reason there's local crazy guys in the car park. Most places you don't know why the nutjobs are there. 🪓😤💣🗡️

[@Lorenzo4350]

That could potentially wraps around a person's skin when you land the hit and you can imagine what happens when you pull it back

[@Br1cht]

Also, brown coconut is not for drinking, it’s the fresh green ones you drink.

[@joesierolon5171]

I can watch you do reviews for hours 😆

[@dr_kellogg]

This just turned into a lets try fresh coconut lol!

[@houstonbaxter5537]

Dude hit the shit out of his knuckles on that third attempt

[@diego3973]

If you need a proper target that resembles a human head, you should get an ivan head from zombiegoboom.

[@wintermute1]

The real advantage of any of those for someone who knows how to fight is that it'd protect your hands, no boxers fractures etc. For the untrained maybe not so much

[@gmadman7]

So basically kubotans only work if you can at least sort of fight, and if you can fight they’re mostly unneeded? I mean they still seem like a decent supplementary bit of force. But that’s just me. Anyone else think so?

[@DH-rq7gw]

Fun thing about coconuts from Thailand, a large percentage of them are picked using “Monkey Slave Labor”. I’m not PETA yelling at you, I think it’s kinda funny, have fun googling hhaha.

[@nonyabizness2550]

Icy san, coconut no hit back. Hahaha

[@paulpolito2001]

Yo, Mike... the 1st swing at that Tubed coconut... that hurt to even watch, double cause you're all like "my hand still hurts". As amusing as 'seeing you idiots hurt yourself' is, don't do it, lol.

[@antonerayath8140]

I have a set of 2 wooden yavara but it's not about wtf u call it if it works it works that's all

[@londiniumarmoury7037]

Don't underestimate a buckler to the dome!

[@bluedogguy]

it's a weapon, like any other weapon. If you give a pistol to someone that doesn't know how to use it, could they use that pistol to save their life? Prolly not. Some training would help. A week's worth of training, they probably could be competent to walk around, EDC, and be safe in the home. Add a couple of years of doing that, then a couple of extra weeks of training - now they could teach other people to be safe. Add a couple more years, then more training - really begin to be competent. The palm stick, the kuboton, the Dulo-Dulo lies between empty-hand and knife in FMA. It would help to know some of each, because taking on a big man with a little stick requires some skill - the same way you'd need some BJJ skills to take on a bigger man. No difference. Train with it. You also use it against other targets than a head. Here's something for you to try - have you big puncher put on 16oz boxing gloves, have Mike hold the Dulo. Everytime he tries to punch you, hammer the glove with the stick coming out the pinky-side of you hand. Now, have your big puncher put on 4oz MMA gloves and have him punch you - hammer his fist. He doesn't want that. Now, tell him to take off the gloves and just punch with no protection - hammer his knuckles. You'll shut him down - he'll start hooking you, Step in, straight punches. Honestly - the dulo is under-rated. It's misunderstood.

[@michaelwebber8271]

If you've never used these you have no idea the damage they can do and the advantage they give you when "properly used." Just like a knife it's typically not seen until to late. I've even seen full DEEP rear naked choke be abandoned due to a precise strike with a kubaton that changed the outcome of the fight.

[@kanekopoint4273]

do a moving picture on the yee olde weapons of old like a Urumi or a flail show jay what it really is

[@KapteinFruit]

I love seeing Mr. Hard2Hurt, getting hurt. :D

[@JourneyToTheCage]

KapteinFruit he’s not impossible2hurt after all

[@nobonna834]

He needs to break boards with a flashlight!

[@themadscientest]

This is just a matter of what the weapon is designed to go against, anything with an edge or point will be better against soft squishy humans.

[@BWater-yq3jx]

Yeah she knew exactly what would happen if she swung at it, lol. No margin for error, almost like hammering a nail. Step 1: Larger coconut! 😄

[@snazdogdbfan251]

Dang the local Asian store should sponsor y’all.

[@djpetenyce]

Doesn’t matter what it did or didn’t do to the coconut, that would hurt like hell if it hit you in the head!

[@davidviers6646]

I think you would be far better off using a cantaloupe or a pumpkin to test these devices. Very difficult to use full force when a person is afraid of messing up his hand.

[@Sceadusawol]

Can we all just realise that force multipliers are not skill enhancers? That goes for more than just kubotans, as well.

[@gregarioushorse]

I wonder what that pediatric therapy center thinks of all your shenanigans

[@dominickdonofrio9546]

U should try using the seat belt cutter on that one if it good or not review as well just striking only u know bro lol

[@Desmont123]

That cold steel "not a Kubotan" looks like something that people shove up their backsides.