Why The Media Are WRONG About United This Season! | Off The Bar

[@kevinreece6475]

As a United fan since the 60's...... Whether we are on a winning run, or a losing one, United are always the biggest story in the media.

[@mm2801]

ive been a fan since the 90's i like speaking to older fans than myself and picking the brains about our history. since youve been supporting the club have you either seen a manager supported so vigorously despite such prolonged poor performances and results for the club?

[@espben360]

United fan since the 60’s?? That’s when my parents were born let alone me and I’m 27 😂 fair play!

[@ShahulHaq]

💯❤️

[@mylinkofitssavage7455]

​@@mm2801Yes. Alex Ferguson, you sausage.

[@IR._]

I don’t like talking about this but me and my brothers were some of the kids Rashford helped during covid. He made a massive difference to our lives and there are probably thousands of kids across the country that’ll say the same. So this just makes Simon Jordan’s comments all the more bizzare. Even if you take away everything Rashford’s ever done in football, he’ll still have had more of an impact in the “real world” than Simon Jordan’s entire family tree. And Rashford was doing this in his early 20s.

[@davidgriffith1552]

Thank you for this! I’m 98.5% convinced that the online (and TalkSport) Rashford hate comes from people that are still fucking pissed he held the Tory feet to the fire during the early days of the pandemic… AND WON. He absolutely shamed the government into doing the right thing, by doing the right thing himself. Anytime someone says something like “_____ should stick to football” or “______ doesn’t know anything about the real world” I just assume they’re a racist Tory.

[@rapidmooofaraahhh1921]

Hmmmm mire to the story public stint

[@johnturner4939]

Hope your family is good now brother

[@Billythekid0716]

Well said.

[@alexking805]

@@rapidmooofaraahhh1921 I don’t say it lightly that we’d be better off without people like you in this world

[@Shy_ted-g9m]

I remember jordan saying we only won the fa cup cause city players had been out celebrating all week 🤣🤡

[@unclebensrice4702]

Innit there was about 12 days between them winning the Prem and the FA Cup final must have been some hangover that 😂

[@ShaneBoy]

Could be true for Grealish

[@mm2801]

you cant deny they wernt as sharp as usual, but a win is a win!

[@Dmaj089]

​@@mm2801they were nerfed by ten Hag's tactics on that very day. They were fully fit just got found out that day

[@mm2801]

@@Dmaj089 maybe well never no I'm grateful for the win, but id prefer a jump in quality of league performances and results to domestic cup wins and on current evidence ETH and his tactics aren't going to do that

[@Imbatman257]

Honestly i wish Ex players would be more supportive of our team! Yes some criticism is warranted but hearing Scholes or Neville wax lyrical about Liverpool and City! They have developed this mentality where they just seem to like tearing down our players! When the world is against us it isn’t helpful to have our own legends against us as well

[@davidgriffith1552]

People get on Rio for not being a great presenter, for not being an analyst, or for whatever… truth is, he’s one of the only United legends that consistently, regularly lives and breathes United in public. And he’s not tearing down our players, never does. His “analysis” is laughable, frequently, and he does well to realize he needs people like Ste to help him out on that front…

[@mm2801]

Until the standards raise don't expect winners to rate losers! Those ex-players critiquing the club have standards and were part of elite teams and record breaking seasons. They lasted and became legends at the club due to their winning mentality. Our domination and competitiveness during there years playing at the club gives them the right to critique the club players and manager , you can never achieve greatness by being dishonest with yourself or others. There's enough fan channels who lie; overate and make excuses for the poor results; performances; manager and players. .

[@jameshall6061]

​@@mm2801Stop talking shite Bellend,Giggs and Beckham never criticise United,Scholes makes a living out of slagging United off,as does Neville.Nothing to do with standards it's to do with choice, Bellend.

[@Shaadyy_6]

You have to call a spade a spade mate ! A biased opinion only worsens the situation .

[@Imbatman257]

@@Shaadyy_6 calling a spade a spade is fine but at what point does that become harassment! I am not saying we shouldn’t criticise our players, I am saying it’s become an everyday thing that even our ex players are adding onto it! At some point the criticism does become hate and harassment. Sure we can call them out but we shouldn’t make it a situation where pundits and journalists who don’t like united feel it’s safe to just talk reckless about us. Rio even made a point last week that after he visited United and he saw Rash smiling and stuff he understood how the constant negativity may have tainted his view on Rashford and that could have affected him even more!

[@garydebolla5058]

United struggling for goals put 7 past a lower league team and its derided as if every Prem team beats lower league teams by that much every time. They don’t. It’s weird.

[@a3r14]

It's funny because, in the "real world", Marcus Rashford got the government to change its policies around free school meals. Providing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of kids' meals. His impact on the "real world" is 1000x what most will achieve, especially Simon Jordons. The dude says stuff to have his opinion stay relevant. Every one of his takes is aimed at getting attention, none are thought through or inciteful. Leaches off others success to stay relevant after failing in all his business ventures.

[@-Old-School-Gamer]

I keep hearing people say that we don’t have a style of play and really don’t understand why. Man United’s style of play is clear to me. ETH wants to play a 4-2-4 formation without the ball, then quickly transitioning to either a 3-2-5 or 3-1-6 formation with the ball. When it’s the 3-2-5, you’ll see one of the fullbacks step into midfield, therefore allowing one of our midfield players to join the attack. If it’s the 3-1-6 (which will likely only be used against lesser opposition and low-block systems), you will see either both of our fullbacks go forward helping to stretch the pitch, or we’ll see one of our midfielders join the attack along with one fullback. The system also includes having a high line of defence, so the front players can press the opposition high up the pitch, without leaving acres of space in the middle, just like we were seeing last season because unfortunately, we didn’t have defenders capable of playing it. The signing of Ugarte was essential for us being able to play the 3-1-6 formation, because Casemiro doesn’t have the legs to do that job alone anymore, because the CDM basically needs to cover the ground of two midfielders, and the signings of Mattias De Ligt and Lenny Yoro were essential signings for allowing the team to play with high defensive line. Personally, I think Casemiro may be used more as an 8 rather than a 6 this season once Ugarte has settled in, because let’s be honest he still excels when going forward. Is everybody comfortable and do they completely understand the formation yet, NO THEY DON’T. However, are we slowly seeing (realistic) progression throughout the team YES. Dose everyone appear to be focused and reading from the same page YES. That’s all we can realistically ask at this moment, now that our club has just started a TOP to BOTTOM rebuild, because we are finally starting to see a GENUINE foundation to build upon. We are finally seeing exactly what we we’ve been asking for, so now it’s our turn as fans to be patient, to have faith in INEOS, to back the players we have, and to also back the manager and coaching staff. Please people, stop throwing your toys out of the pram every time we drop points, because it achieves nothing, other than negativity and ammunition for rivals. P.S. If anyone wants a better understanding of what ETH’s style of play is, STAT MAN DAVE made an excellent and in-depth video about the 4-2-4 aspect not that long ago, where he explains that part of the formation in far greater detail.

[@rapidmooofaraahhh1921]

Really wrote all this fir KZbin wow too much time on your hand

[@sentientexplorer]

Thanks Erik

[@SpotlessLeopard]

​@@rapidmooofaraahhh1921Says a bloke with over 100 comments on this channel, a lot of which are negative and contain basic grammatical errors. Hmmmm.

[@josephriddock2204]

Well said brother

[@Tipsi89]

@@rapidmooofaraahhh1921Hah! L O S E R!

[@Imbatman257]

12:44 Simon Jordan in the real world is running Crystal Palace into administration!

[@christophermccaughran3253]

Simon Jordan for all his hot air was only a premier league chairman for 1 year but he gives it the big one like he ran a successful club. Please don’t give him any more airtime on our channel

[@homebrewgraphics2384]

11:20 ‘real world’ debate killed me. Thank you Joes and Jay 😂😂😂

[@hellskitchen10036]

Screw the haters , Love Manchester United , fan since 1958 !!!

[@SeanBotha]

You and fellow ten hag apologists said ten hag having the lowest ever finish in premier league is a good thing. Call me a hater I am not a liar

[@bumbili1]

Talk Sport people are just salty United won. They run out of talking points by 9 AM on weeks like this. It's a problem.

[@jameshall6061]

Talkshite have an Anti United agenda full stop.

[@sthandri]

What Simon Jordan said about Rashford goes beyond just football Rashford's ability. It's supposed to be a direct attack on Rashford's character and it is 100% racially motivated. It's the same things they were saying back when Rashford was fighting to ensure that children were being properly fed

[@Stegibbon]

Might not be racism, he's just a tory and Marcus made them look like arseholes. Either way he's a prick.

[@lalrinpuia_tlau]

I have blocked TalkShit from my feeds 🤪🤪

[@TheNaz1996]

Talkshit 😂😂😂

[@danUnited26]

The main difference so far is the fact we have a mostly fit squad to pick a team from.

[@mm2801]

what difference? our form is mirroring that of last season? 4 GP 2 W 2 L GD 0 don't let cup results cloud your objectivity. Fans ignoring league performances and results in favor of cup runs is what kept this inept manager in a job and hamstrung our season moving forward.

[@Parky_1712]

​@@mm2801And if you think the performances this season have been anywhere near the same as last season, then you're the one ignoring what's happening

[@mm2801]

@Parky_1712 where was the added control in the Fulham game Brighton game or Liverpool games. All 3 were end to end affairs. Southampton after 35 mins and Barnsley were the only games that looked different open your eyes and don't let these "fan" channels fool you.

[@Parky_1712]

@@mm2801 They really weren't...

[@mm2801]

@Parky_1712 oh you watch our matches with sunglasses on in a dark room.... the only matches the midfield looked serviceable were the last two erikson supporting the 6 against Southampton and then urgate supporting casemiro with erikson ahead covering the spaces and not vacating the midfield like bruno does.

[@ethans9105]

The videos hitting back at the media are top notch 👌

[@008PR]

Simon Jordan is troll, dont give him the time of day.

[@seanphelan107]

Keep fighting the good fight lads 🇾🇪

[@sherradgordon]

The King told us about the Seagulls decades ago

[@lowrytv6736]

We are the trawler.

[@buffywhatever1093]

Absolutely spot on

[@breenr2020]

Reminds me of last years FA Cup Quarter Final when people on twitter genuinely believed that the ref shouldn't have given offside against Coventry because they were a much smaller team and getting to the semi final would have been 'massive for the club' 🤣

[@beardfitness9173]

If United didn’t smash Barnsley they’d be criticised. They smashed Barnsley and are being criticised. The media just hate United. Success spawns jealousy from failures

[@reddevilian]

the problem with these Simon Jordan of the media is that when they get things wrong, there are no consequences to their words. There should be a shaming process that would make them think twice.

[@MrJeffHead]

Everyone in the media has their hits and misses. At least Simon Jordan is willing to say what most people won't.

[@StanKPhlaps]

It's Simon Jordan on Talksport. Just don't listen to Talksport. Fuckin simple.

[@jamesplatt3368]

Why? They have an opinion, yes it’s sometimes wrong but does that necessitate ‘consequences’. If you don’t like it, don’t listen to it. People shouldn’t get wound up by differing opinions so much. Stretford paddock do the same as Talksport, it just so happens you agree with their opinions.

[@MrJeffHead]

@@StanKPhlaps its better than the fan channels.

[@IanSmith-ri1cb]

@@reddevilian Right, wrong, it's just an opinion. Do you want to live in a totalitarian state, where people are scared to say what they think?

[@dannydude007321]

Love myself some Off The Sloppy Bar

[@bradleyheacock2399]

AGREED

[@Pmf6142]

Simon Jordan's brain is beef mince.

[@XboneMalone]

I heard that beef mince has taken great offence at being compared to the offal that allegedly tries its best in between Jordan's ears

[@TheIrulex]

Simon Jordan is the same person as Amanda Staveley. It just depends what mood he is in.

[@vxrdrummer]

When Maguire plays, he is so deep that I think it hurts the team as the back to front distan e becomes massive, and that makes for a big hole in midfield. When we squeeze the back for up, we compress the whole setup and look a lot more stable and there are less gaps.

[@lucasvanwijngaarden670]

I think asking any manager "is it your players or your system that's the problem" is disgusting. You're literally framing the question in such a way that he has to throw his players under the bus or say his own tactics suck. The only right answer is to say it's neither, but Ten Hag isn't the most well-spoken, so he's unlikely to flip the question. Of course only a United manager would ever get such a question to begin with.

[@davidgriffith1552]

Don’t think anyone asked Slot that when Forest turned ‘em over at home, did they?

[@banlammarpnas9555]

Only at EtH actually cause he's a bit of a dork I believe. He isn't articulate so is viewed as an idiot or not good enough. I do believe EtH is a bit on the spectrum and it is a great thing!

[@jameshall6061]

​@@banlammarpnas9555On the Spectrum? says you who hides behind a pseudonym, Numbskull.

[@OldRiver109]

our U21 also beat Barnsley 3-2 this season just to remind Simon J.

[@bazzathegreat3517]

De Ligt and Dier ended the season as first choice pairing in defense for Bayern. Scholes doesn't know what he is talking about. Honestly, we got lucky we missed out on Kim Min-jae. We could have used the extra body last year but he has a mistake in him. Also, he isn't great on the ball. He had a string of errors that got him dropped for Dier. It took an extra year but I feel like we got the better player in De Ligt.

[@manchesteraholic5859]

Cleared the deadwood, added young technical players. On the up and up.

[@jiggersotoole7823]

21 is coming, boys. Mark my words.

[@LeaoK2]

The hate on Man United is pure historic personal 😂

[@siouzsie]

Since when was Simon Jordan an expert on football?

[@TheNaz1996]

We live in a society where very average people like Simon Jordan are put in positions to criticise people who do things he could only dream of doing.

[@DonnethWalton]

You should ignore Simon Jordan. He is just a bitter old fart with a massive ego who couldn’t hack it as a football club owner and is seeking relevance. The worst thing one can do to Jordan is to ignore him!

[@aphelelenase126]

Bayandir cost like 2, Maz was 12. Collyer, Erikson, Rashford and Evans are free, Garnacho less than 1Million. About 7 if those players barely cost much and the expensive ones aren't starters.

[@corriedebeer799]

There is no way a captain criticising is own players in public is ever acceptable. FFS Fergie booted one of our best captain ever out of the football club for doing just that. There is no way De Lit should ever play for Netherlands again with Van Dijk as the captain when they do shit like that to him. It is disgraceful.

[@israelparper6080]

In football ownership terms, Simon Jordan is the Boris Johnson of Jacob Rees-Moggs. This is a radio troll who had a short-term career as a top-flight football club owner, and that was OVER A DECADE AGO. NOT ONE CLUB OWNER TALKS ABOUT HIM AND HIS POINT OF VIEW. Not one owner quotes him in terms of relevance or expertise. Not one goes to him for advice. All Jordan is doing is standing outside the big tent and urinating inside it.

[@Imbatman257]

Joe made some good points 😋👀

[@milorusi7782]

I love that. They couldn’t help themselves but get carried away after Barnsley result 😂

[@LestZA]

The boys are too relaxed. This feels like the calm before the storm honestly. 😂😭

[@upyerkilt9125]

a gob stopper and a sling shot was deadly, they were worse than golf balls

[@mutangpadan5311]

Honestly, many of us MU fans out here have never trusted Simon Jordan’s reports and comments on MU. In fact, I don’t even bother to listen to him.

[@TrolleyTrampInc]

Beat Southampton and Barnsley......... Joe's out here acting like we've beaten peak City and Madrid. Absolute clowns 😂

[@ashley123owns]

Gob stoppers remind me of Ed Ed and Eddy 😂 what a cartoon that was

[@rajeevk4972]

Guys stop giving shelf space to simon jordan … he is a nobody

[@stephenschofield2836]

You should let Scholesy know, Eric Cantona was a twat at every club he played for, until he came to Old Trafford. De Light will end up being as loved as Pallister in the next couple of years

[@khayarululu989]

Im sure you never saw him at Leeds before coming to United. In fact he had won a league title at two different clubs in the two seasons prior to him to him joining United and winning it a third time.

[@stephenschofield2836]

@@khayarululu989 I did see him at Leeds, weren't they the club who sold him, so Lee Chapman stopped sulking? And btw, he only won the championship once with Leeds

[@immolation1258]

Random question has anyone checked piers hard drive?

[@punit160492]

It was Garnacho, Hojlund and *Kobbie Mainoo* Joe 'urban' Smith....

[@The_shadowcraft]

Obvious that ineos are targeting players that aren’t getting starts for their clubs…the big teams have many really talented understudies that need games.

[@corriedebeer799]

I lost a lot of respect for Scholes after what he said about De Lit.

[@kolakareem2000]

Saliba, Gabriel, Timber, Calafiori... I think our defense is in second place

[@jayjoesadoptedsonbenjamin]

Lindelöf was very good in the season he became 2nd in the league with United. He never got his flowers. Besides that he was usually a 6/7 performance. Lindelöf and Maguire are not world class but it showed how a partnership is important. You don’t just get 2nd in the league being shit. Hope we can keep Martinez and De ligt fit. And see what Yoro can do!!

[@jonah11111]

I think Scholes simply fell prey to some united slander

[@randopedia1]

Liverpool game sucked but all I saw was heads dropping after some really poor mistakes, which isn’t ideal but is understandable. I actually thought we attacked them much better than we did last season, we just didn’t put the ball in the net. and I was at the OT 2-2. We were AWFUL first half. Other than that, we’ve been the better team in all games. As mentioned, Xg is up, the press looks better, there’s more competition, the new signings look good, we’ve just scored 10 goals in 2 games, shots against is down - there is definite tangible, statistically proven, visible improvement. Media will say there isn’t but it is right there. Mentality is still a lingering question though - and that will be key vs. Palace. Really hope we can win this one. Can’t be assed to listen to the media pile on again all week. It’s hilarious they’re doing it after last Week - tells you all you need to know tbh.

[@corriedebeer799]

Did United win a trophy a season in the 70s? Must have made them pretty elite then.

[@vaughanlockett658]

I don't think any of us are under any illusion we are a competing for the Prem title. However we want to see a improvement, we have misfired twice one tough game away to a last minute goal. And a mistake ridden home game to our NW rivals who are definitely in the running for a title. My thoughts we got it tactical wrong we could have made it very difficult for Liverpool we choose to go after them and paid the price. The Barnsley game we looked a bit wobbly for the first 10 min and after we scored we could see it he confidence grow . I hope we take that confidence into weekend and play tactically. It will be a tough game being realistic.

[@mufc9927]

What happened to Ste and Adam?

[@IamBerbatov]

Bro’s tripping if he thinks city’s 4 centre backs aren’t better

[@kaykjay4303]

Don't forget about Juan Mata's fund, that's real world too.

[@brucejack606]

For 26yrs we were a cup team

[@petermullenigrd14]

7 nil that is what a premier league team should do every time they play Div 3.

[@Stegibbon]

Like Simon Jordan has ever lived in the real world 😂

[@Mpho..M1652]

Jordan is desperate to reinvent himself because he failed as owner of Palace. He is just a sad looser.

[@philipmorrissey9142]

Simon Jordan is awfully gobby for a lad that caused Palace to go into administration

[@supersonic_treble]

Arsenal have Gabriel, Saliba, White and Calafiori as options as CB.

[@mimikatz]

I think we need to wait for a few more games before saying any one was proved wrong or right.

[@alexboyd8764]

Dier didn’t start over De Ligt either. That was just blatantly false lol

[@PHXwhoopass]

The best trio on the channel!

[@vikram-qf8xq]

If united were facing 115 charges you would hear about it even in your dreams 😂 city get a news post here and there

[@memonm786]

Great show guys!

[@R1chardH]

People forget it's not journalism or punditry it's entertainment. It's funded by adverts an relies on provocation, drama, and exaduration.

[@ste4392]

Few points on Simon Jordans shite. First if you win a trophy a season for a decade, that's not bad. Most clubs in world football would be delight with ten trophies, I'm a decade. Secondly the 300m of players, the majority he says are shit, so what's his point? Expensive flops played well, it's not like it was full of players that have lit it up recently

[@corriedebeer799]

What exactly are football pundits contributing to society? At least the air kickers are participating in the sport that millions of people around the world enjoy, what are the leeches that run there mouth about a sport half of them never even competed in 'contributing to society'?

[@electronotch]

It's the number of people influenced by and who enjoy the likes of Simon Jordan, buying into his grift shite that is the problem.

[@jamesthomas6164]

You've gone abit early on this lads United have Palace, Tottenham & Villa with two Europa League games in the next 5 games if United that's the real test beating Barnsley & Southampton doesn't prove anything United would've done that last season when we was shit.

[@jameshall6061]

FACT,Scholes isn't a United fan he supports Oldham,he just makes a living of slating United.

[@Chris_p_Bacon72]

I've lost respect about Simon Jordan he is exceptionally biased to groups he has jollie's with such as todd boli. He's always watching his p's and q's with chelsea, however United, he goes full on assault. Biased!

[@bigregful]

The problem is as Utd fans know a lot of recent years have been garbage. However, there is no nuance to the conversation and there are a lot of Utd pundits who criticise Utd and a lot of scouse pundits who hate Utd for a predictable reason. We need our own to big us up a little. Jordan is not the worst as Jay says he does say some good things. The worst, Souness, Mcmanaman and right of the top of the list Steve Nichol. Ridiculous vomitous nonsense comes from his mouth every time he speaks.

[@waynereason3235]

You forgot that sour twat Agbonlahor who thought he was a good enough player for United but Fergie wasn't interested in him or his over inflated ego

[@vxrdrummer]

Luke Shaw can't play right back... more to the point, Luke Shaw can't play 10 minutes straight.

[@Parky_1712]

Played 47 games 2 seasons ago...

[@jacobbarber13]

Dias, Akanji, Stones, Ake, Gavrdiol no?

[@thepoleisred5899]

Simon Jordan does it so people will rage at him and he'll get more attention. Is he paying you a retainer? Ignore him!

[@kevinb9830]

Not really 'proven wrong' yet... andf I'm not sure Jordan would see himself as left wing. Just saying. People's champions these days are most certainly not 'left wing'.

[@azeemkhan1066]

do Joe and Jay ever stop weeping? the other guy isnt even speaking most of the time, he's probably embarrassed

[@Stegibbon]

Mad that you'd watch a podcast and complain about people talking.

[@azeemkhan1066]

@@Stegibbon mad that i complained about their weeping and you made it out that im mad about talking. maybe youre just mad

[@Stegibbon]

@@azeemkhan1066 I'm just gonna assume you're using the word weeping wrong or something. Nothing else makes sense.

[@WayofWyrd]

Who is Simon Jordan the guy that made up big brother ???

[@EdmondSRahl]

ANGE struggled against Coventry and oh, that's fine; Man United won but it's only Barnsley... oh Its only Southampton!!! THE AUDACITY!

[@johnturner4939]

We have always been hated. Its only now we dont love it. We always fight fire with fire. We are man utd

[@Cashback13]

Also so much was made about Barnsley being in League One but they were and have been in the championship mostly over the last 15 years and not so long ago stayed in there for a few years in a row and will probably be there again soon enough, so they are hardly a Wycombe or a Burton Albion are they who might get in there for 1 season and just go straight back down?

[@andypalin3287]

What's new. Even before the Fergie years, ABU was rife! 😜

[@jed_91]

We need three bk To bk season cant have a season on then off then on we need more consistance yr in like we we dnt one next season a other nightmare

[@teddy3-xh2qb]

Yeah The Muppet McKola ain't on 👍🤘

[@tshabalala7]

Screw you

[@admin11093]

Why the heck are you throwing gobstoppers at birds, animal cruelty Unsubscribing

[@unclebensrice4702]

He was probably about 11 years old chill out

[@admin11093]

@@unclebensrice4702 Andy Tate is that you?

[@reecemercer6772]

You lot are actually clueless 😂

[@andymanser1]

What's happened Andy tate

[@jgm292]

UTR, UTP, UTRH

[@stuartheald7657]

Put out a team to win so what 7.0. Play youth and get the not taking it seriously claims.

[@MrJeffHead]

Very harsh on Simon Jordan.

[@jamesplatt3368]

Simon Jordan is actually very articulate and accurate about a lot of things and is also complementary about United a lot of the time. People shouldn’t get so wound up about differing opinions. Also ‘pampered elite’ is such a bitter, generic and meaningless term.

[@pranaypatil7223]

Stratford paddock is running out of topics to talk about manutd ,can't blame them. While I love the channel it's important to keep the quality of videos rather than quantity . I guess KZbin algorithm dictates that content is necessary every day. Maybe you guys can review the weekends action scores the premier league

[@RogerSmith1984]

I don’t follow garbage like sky etc so it would be nice if this channel gave some general prem or champs league europa updates, I’d rather hear it from here and be updated than following msm

[@Stegibbon]

I don't think this video is any different to most of them tbh. No idea what you're complaining about.

[@pranaypatil7223]

They are a lot more fun than most or all of tv foot ball pundits. And while they can be biased towards united ( rightly so , since they are a United fan channel) the group is usually balanced when they discuss other teams and would love to hear from them about other games too

[@paulorganisation1]

I am not exactly a simon jordan fan but come on guys.... it was obvious he meant if we just want to be winning cups and be bad in the league then we can go back to the 70s. Not that i agree with that statement.

[@elessar5848]

The point is that he belittles Ten Hag achievements all the time. He literally said: " ten hag doesn't have the charisma to be a coach". Simon has an agenda and it's definitely AGAINST Ten Hag.

[@mm2801]

the views expressed by those in the video are embarrassing the fanbase; this persecution complex and constant claims of media bias against united are ridiculous. The gentlemen in the video are of a similar age to myself have seen the real ABU bias that existed when sir alex was here which was a result of us consistently winning, matching good results WITH good performances. At the end of the day regardless of what the media is pushing we as fans should be even more critical with our analysis of the team and demand much more. However it seems the fanbase has now took it upon themselves to lower standards them selves and expect less all in support of a manager prior to united has done nothing of note in world football ( the dutch leauge is ranked lower than the spanish, german, french and italian leauges) I really struggle to understand how mature aged fans ( who lived through our real success) blindly support ETH despite all the negative results, the worst leauge finishes, negative records set, poor singings, falling out with accomplished players for what cup wins? A leuage cup which historically has been a 2nd rate domestic cup and a FA cup win a competition which even sir alex considered least important of cups up for grabs each season THE LEAUGE IS THE TRUE TEST and a test ETH is continuing to fail! Stop aiming your critiques out the club and look inwards and hold ETH accountable.

[@Stegibbon]

Ahhh you're one of those fake fans. Got it 👍

[@Stegibbon]

Nothing but pure, unadulterated toxicity.

[@mm2801]

@@Stegibbon you must be born in the 2000s and mentally fragile? toxicity for being objective, sorry mate men grow by honest assessment of flaws and then attacking those flaws head on. Pretending nothings wrong is a kin to burying your head in the sand. If you have this same approach in your personal life I'm going to assume your a low achiever living a mediocre existence