Fully Rigged Plate Carrier vs Slick Carrier and Chest Harness, Which is best?

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Modern Tactical Shooting

Modern Tactical Shooting

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@fathead8933
@fathead8933 2 жыл бұрын
I've run IBA, then full kit plate carrier, then slick and chest rig/sustainment rig. I honestly think the slick plate carrier is the best option for most guys not flying in on the skids of a little bird. I call it a scalable system kinda like the mopp system. There is tasks for each. If I need to drive for instance. Civilians don't have their car seats made to accommodate their equipment. So having kit attached to your back isn't going to work. In riding in the passenger compartment of a vehicle, the slick will be better. The assaulter style PC is better for a more dismount out of the bed of a pickup. If you run slick you can have a chest rig or harness with you, you get out of the vehicle, you can put it on. If you have to ruck, we'll it's a lot easier to ruck with a slick PC than a loaded down assaulter plate carrier. Let's face it nobody is raiding or breaching in the states. We don't have giant tunnels that lack any vover and concealment that cars drive down (streets of Iraq with courtyard walls) too often in the states. We have trees and fences, and different micro terrains. People think city and immediately throw camo and sustainment out of the window. A lot of guys are seeing what the tier 1 guys are wearing and doing and not understanding that they're the "war tourists". That's not meant to be derogatory its just the reality. They can go out of the wire with four mags and a 20 Oz bottle of water, because they have a 160th bird on standby to kick speedballs out to them. Infantry and Civilians don't. It's almost a misallocation of resources for most guys to base their kit off what SF and higher is doing. I've fallen into this tactical fashion trap and I knew what was needed as an Infantryman. There really needs to be a culture shift in the tactical world. Edited for the lack of proofreading.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
You brought up great points
@fathead8933
@fathead8933 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting just the realities. I prefer my system because I can go light, or heavy on capability and equipment based on the task. But it's all there. The second part is kind of the disconnect just due to the nature of the tactical community. If we are wearing the stuff for the intended purpose after being out, we're going to be doing Infantry tasks for longer missions than the more tier 1 equipment was designed for. We need to adjust our gear to better suit those missions.
@StrapDLBStyle
@StrapDLBStyle 3 ай бұрын
I'm with you. I'm just now building out what my needs are and what I need is. #1 Self Defense / Flat Range, #2 Hunting / Sport Shooting, #3 SHTF/WROL. Was thinking about getting one of those chest rigs that you can quickly convert into a plate carrier and add plates. Again for me CQB is not something I'm going to be doing. No night vision ops either. Would rather just have QD thermal device to add on my optic 🤷​@@fathead8933
@nikolamanchev8003
@nikolamanchev8003 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff, I love your channel, so much to learn off every video. I'm in Ukraine atm, and I find that in such a conflict where so much artillery is in play, it is more convenient to run a slim plate carrier with a chest-rig on top of it. Quite often we get hit by mortars and 122mm shells with no infantry attack following up. This means you have to keep the carrier on at all times, but you can slim down a bit and not have all the gear on you at all times.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
First thank you second, good luck and stay safe over there
@nikolamanchev8003
@nikolamanchev8003 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx, doing my best))
@SpokeNipples
@SpokeNipples 2 жыл бұрын
I’m also on ukraine using the warrior assault covert carrier and warrior recon chest rig. Love it and you can throw jackets on too easily
@BigdaddyJym
@BigdaddyJym Жыл бұрын
@@nikolamanchev8003 bro how do i send stuff to yall
@McnamaraMissedMe
@McnamaraMissedMe Жыл бұрын
I hope you get folded.
@vincenttibbles436
@vincenttibbles436 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff your channel is fantastic! You're no nonsense approach to gear and weapons setups is very helpful. Most underrated channel on youtube.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@SA-xf1eb
@SA-xf1eb 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@ronaldrobertson2332
@ronaldrobertson2332 2 жыл бұрын
This is about the best information I've found on the subject of plate carriers and chest harnesses, which I have both. I've been anguishing over what would be better for an old fart like me (I'll be 63 in January) where I could wear more ammo pouches on the carrier, making it heavier or having just the chest rig and a battle belt. I think you've helped me how to set my kit up so it won't cause me any grief or hardship utilizing too much, weight-wise and such.
@frankheffernan8066
@frankheffernan8066 2 жыл бұрын
26 years of tactical evolution shared with others. 👍🏻 RLTW/DOL
@DanDannyDanielleBob
@DanDannyDanielleBob 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. As a fellow cross dominant weirdo I would love to see complete belt and kit loadout and tips for running cross dominant
@renegadearms
@renegadearms 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoying the channel and glad it’s growing.
@magickaldood
@magickaldood 2 жыл бұрын
Getting shot in the lungs is bad for your life expectancy, or so I've heard...
@HAYAOLEONE
@HAYAOLEONE 2 жыл бұрын
6:45 to 7:01 = lots of surface with zero ballistic protection Some shooters will burden themselves with a big lvl4 plate on the back but will be perfectly OK (officially) with cottonnylon&kydex side armor from the knee to the top of the peltor.. Lean just a bit, get shot in the shoulder area from the 2nd floor balcony full of cardboard boxes, get a nice exit wound right below the floating ribs..
@Caveman125
@Caveman125 2 жыл бұрын
Just don’t get shot by a 9mm it will totally blow out the lung.
@flyoverkid55
@flyoverkid55 2 жыл бұрын
Former military, now an armed geezer [ stay off my lawn ]. I can't justify keeping both systems, so I have a full on plate carrier with side plates. Keep 3 mags, radio, and admin pouch on it. The rest goes on an old school Blackhawk LBE. I like the distribution of gear and wearing the LBE under the carrier gives some room for air circulation. This isn't a high mobility rig, and I'm not running and gunning. My need is for protection and weight distribution. As always, my thanks to Jeff for sharing his knowledge and experience with us, you're never too old to learn something.
@rp7983
@rp7983 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your detailed and quality videos. You answered many of my questions and I learned facts I never thought about. I have my own rig I would like to develop for my own purposes and training. This is the type of quality content that other firearms/gear channels should take note of. Too many other channels tend to focus more on putting on a flashy performance that is Instagram worthy rather than really teaching you something.
@L330ne
@L330ne 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge and explanation. Glad I saw you on the 9 holes video. Subscribed! Thank for your service sir.
@joethebourbonman
@joethebourbonman 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful information. Being able to easily swap between weapon systems is a great point for anyone that might go between AR/AK/shotgun/.308 on a routine basis.
@1robertcourtney
@1robertcourtney 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight to learn from. Thank you for your years of service and sharing your knowledge based on legitimate experience!
@tjfurey2893
@tjfurey2893 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently joined the tactical community and I appreciate the info you put out. Thank you
@lonniem.124
@lonniem.124 Жыл бұрын
I thoroughly liked this video. I spent 12 yrs in the army with 2 combat tours and no two situations are alike. Combat is not a “one size fits all”. I truly learned a few things and will be returning to my kits and kinda redoing stuff. Trying to have a “defend” mindset rather than all out combative type situation. I have been buying different chest rigs and placards and plate carriers and just needed that little bit more information to get me over that informed bump in the road so to speak. Thank you. Also intend on incorporating my ADV bikes into the mix as well. KLR 650 (widely used in the military) as part of my families training. They pretty much have enough space to pack up and leave for 3 to 5 days worth of stuff. Again. Thank you. Much appreciated.
@user-rs1fo2dd9b
@user-rs1fo2dd9b 2 жыл бұрын
hi sir, I recently discovered your channel through your guest appearance on 9 Hole Reviews, and just went down the rabbit-hole watching all of your historical, first-hand-account videos on the 1911, the Glock adoption, and the M4 program. it is the most informative, academic, and entertaining series I have come across. would you consider doing video(s) on the Mk 18's development (particularly about the move to the 11.5" barrel), as well as videos on other small arms platforms in the future?
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
I am in fact... working on History of MK18 video
@MrSimon117
@MrSimon117 2 жыл бұрын
Crewman here, pretty much forced to rock the slick carrier + harness/fishing vest. try fitting in a LAV 25 turret or drivers hatch with mags on and youll get no where.
@Rocinante_Outdoors
@Rocinante_Outdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos! I remember your articles in SWAT magazine were some my favorite because they were packed with information and the videos are even better.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!...... I miss writing for SWAT
@Rocinante_Outdoors
@Rocinante_Outdoors 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't bought an issue in a long time but it was one of the few magazines that seemed to have articles that were actually helpful.
@bradborgelt60
@bradborgelt60 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding advice and content!!! It feels good to see your own journey in gear is identical to some one elses.
@Fatties09
@Fatties09 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Much appreciated.
@TheLoneRanger745
@TheLoneRanger745 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Veterans Day Soldier's 🇺🇸 , Jeff i can't begin to tell you how much I Honor Respect and Admire what a great Man you are, thank you so much for serving our country God bless you. I watch you all the time ,and yes I'm subbed in.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MarkErikEE
@MarkErikEE 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video - I'm starting with my first plate carrier for combat training and your suggestions work a ton.
@swampweasel4521
@swampweasel4521 2 жыл бұрын
I made shotgun cards the exact same way for hunting, but I added a slim piece of Kydex between the velcro so its more rigid.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
Thats smart
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video man! I would choose both of them lol!
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You..I agree
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting True! Hopefully a combination in the future.
@ToysRUsKid_Critter
@ToysRUsKid_Critter 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you✌️. Awesome video. Grateful for your time brother
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@frankiegunnz8066
@frankiegunnz8066 Жыл бұрын
Class In section guys. This man gave a master class In not only plate carriers but Weapons too. Thank you!
@shrapmagnet
@shrapmagnet 2 жыл бұрын
I used a fully rigged carrier for DA missions, with the flash bangs, pouch for firing systems, 2 MBITRS, etc. For MTC in a GMV, I used a slicker carrier with a man-zeer. This was so that I could remove the rack if we were going to RON and sleep in my plates for some comfort and protection. Also, if I had to move into the sniper role and dismount, I would have no use for the M4 mags so I would have another smaller chest rig in my ruck w/ the appropriate ammo, LRF, GPS, etc. and other gear along with all my sniper kit, so I would just switch out racks. All I kept on the carrier was the IFAK, MBITR, and 1 double 9mm mag pouch. If we were doing a more traditional dismounted movement, I generally carried a SWS anyway, so I used the same setup for that too.
@Rubeless
@Rubeless Жыл бұрын
And then realized youv been dreaming.
@empiricalshooting
@empiricalshooting 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience on this
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@Stoney_AKA_James
@Stoney_AKA_James 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Jeff! Happy Veterans Day! - from this old Army LLRP and Ranger
@Rubeless
@Rubeless Жыл бұрын
What’s a llrp? You mean lrrp? Doubt you did that. Maybe larp
@Stoney_AKA_James
@Stoney_AKA_James Жыл бұрын
@@Rubeless Spelled incorrectly, thanks for pointing that out. LRRP: Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol
@ginger0208
@ginger0208 2 жыл бұрын
For LE having a slick carrier with many different harness systems works well, some days you out with a shotty, a rifle and other days with a battle rifle (usually a 7.62×51) with uniquely sized mags and rounds for each. However with new plate carriers incorporating the swift clip system I find it easier to have a full carrier and just switch out the front placards.
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 Жыл бұрын
Or just HSGI Taco mag pouches and 1 single carrier.. lol Tacos for everything from 556, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 5.45x39 ect really the best multi system pouches out there IMO
@Bob-jf1tb
@Bob-jf1tb 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Love your content sir.
@ThomasRonnberg
@ThomasRonnberg 2 жыл бұрын
Where i served we had a harness over our carrier. So you could take the harness off and still be protected from shrapnel in case of artillery barrage on your tent area.
@pootytang2872
@pootytang2872 2 жыл бұрын
where at?
@craigjohnson6141
@craigjohnson6141 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Veterans Day! Great video. Those are some great tips.
@mixmix1487
@mixmix1487 Жыл бұрын
Love this guy. Practical, to the point and the experience to back it. Thank you for sharing your knowledge brother.
@whiskey11niner
@whiskey11niner 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t both, either can work imo, great content as usual Jeff
@lukelacross190
@lukelacross190 2 жыл бұрын
You and Tactical Riflemans channels are top notch, you should consider going on Jocko Willinks podcast. That would be a real treat
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@jarvy251
@jarvy251 Жыл бұрын
Just from an average troop perspective, there are all sorts of times when you'd want just armor for administrative tasks in dangerous areas (filling sandbags, going for chow in a place conceivably vulnerable to indirect or snipers, or pressing your PPE in a covert role as many Close protection guys had to) and there are times when you'd just want your LBE (Recce, or even square range training) and having the consistency of a scalable system is really beneficial.
@jbazan11
@jbazan11 2 жыл бұрын
These plate carrier and chest rigs etc have their place! Each have advantages and disadvantages depending on “mission/patrol”.
@Rubeless
@Rubeless Жыл бұрын
Only comment that matters. Use whatever is best for the environment. I wouldn’t clear rooms with an AT4
@JDew79
@JDew79 2 жыл бұрын
Liked the video before I watched it!
@charlesmullins3238
@charlesmullins3238 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your service Jeff…and this great knowledge…happy birthday marines!
@TheOnlySgtRock
@TheOnlySgtRock 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you.
@kweeks10045
@kweeks10045 2 жыл бұрын
I tried a Paraclete RAV in the modular light model. Definitely worth a look if you need/want this type of equipment. I found that if offered scalable protection and the fact that you can quickly get out of it in an emergency is something we don't often consider, but we definitely should, in my opinion. The RAV doesn't have covers for routing communication cables across the shoulder, however.
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 Жыл бұрын
Just slide a sleeve over the shoulder straps, and there ya go. Cable/bladder tube management.
@drevil4454
@drevil4454 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose it's all about preference. I have been a PMC in Africa for 20years +. I prefer a carrier + chest rig. Reason. In case of an emergency I prefer my mags and ammo first before protection. Also when ypu are in a armoured car you need the chest rig over protection.
@Rubeless
@Rubeless Жыл бұрын
It’s all about what is best for the environment you are in. Just like wearing a camelpak in vehicles is a bad idea.
@stjjames
@stjjames 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@irafowlerjr.7492
@irafowlerjr.7492 2 жыл бұрын
Helpful info, thanks
@Fer-De-Lance
@Fer-De-Lance 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge good sir.
@levet1797
@levet1797 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone tired of waiting for Ferro to restock can check out Defense Mechanisms MEPC. Very similar, roughly the same price, made to order. Don't take this as a MTS endorsement, just an another option to look into.
@camoandplaid
@camoandplaid 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff for sharing your knowledge.
@isaace8090
@isaace8090 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have been a big fan of ATS (stationed at Campbell once) and Ferro for a while. I own their plate carrier, two battle belts, and various pouches. I can remove their low profile chest harness from the plate carrier and make it into a separate chest rig in about 30 seconds. My Ferro Slickster has an ATS triple M4/Glock shingle on the front and a dangler for the IFAK. It keeps all of the rifle and pistol mags in one spot rather than having to put them on a separate belt. The slickster is the bump in the night armor like you mentioned. That fast mag from ATS looks interesting. I might need to take it for a spin. I read one of your articles on your IR laser setup a while back and was happy to find you also had a KZbin channel. Thanks for the great info!
@dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073
@dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073 Жыл бұрын
what about say wearing a plate carrier versus just a chest rig? would there be a time for armor and a time for no armor? while on an op? never mind you answered the question after i asked.
@bds123087
@bds123087 Жыл бұрын
I love the happy mag idea!! I’m gonna try it out and see how it works. Could you recommend a good flared mag well adapter? I noticed you have one on every one of your rifles.
@Op4Grunt0311
@Op4Grunt0311 2 жыл бұрын
Always on point
@KyleC2OO7
@KyleC2OO7 2 жыл бұрын
Damn good video HOAH! Happy Veterans Day!
@shockwave6213
@shockwave6213 Жыл бұрын
I can see benefits in both. I know the typical infantry loadout is (or used to be. I'm not up to date) the Interceptor body armor with a full Lad Bearing Vest over the top of it. The biggest benefit I can see is for quickly swapping out your gear by having multiple LBVs ready to go. That said, I'm quite satisfied with my standalone base plate carrier set up. I have multiple Alice battle belts ready to go if I need extra space or special equipment. Of course I'll always be tweaking my setup (Who isn't? LOL) but I have the framework I like
@PracticalAccuracy
@PracticalAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. 👍 Just noticed your left handed with rifle and right handed with pistol.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@craigjohnson6141
@craigjohnson6141 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting I shoot the exact same way. Left eye dominant.
@Token_Black_Guy
@Token_Black_Guy 2 жыл бұрын
@@craigjohnson6141 same
@CallofWar5
@CallofWar5 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer wearing a plate carrier over an alice kit mounted over my hips. Best of all worlds and is modular in its usage
@judesheckelberg5135
@judesheckelberg5135 2 жыл бұрын
06:56 Have you moved that pouch yet? It looks like it might get in the way when you really need your sidearm.
@ironteacup2569
@ironteacup2569 2 жыл бұрын
This is more of what I like. How does having a chest rig help vs a fully mollied plate carrier
@fathead8933
@fathead8933 2 жыл бұрын
You can take the chest rig off the armor when it isn't exactly need. This lowers the carrying weight and reduces the fatigue from all the equipment. War is mostly just sitting around waiting to do something.
@ironteacup2569
@ironteacup2569 2 жыл бұрын
@@fathead8933 Exactly. When being in a turret a chest rig is nice. you take it off and put it next to you then you are a little less cumbersome.
@fathead8933
@fathead8933 2 жыл бұрын
@@ironteacup2569 not even a turret just riding in a vehicle.
@wyatthicks-johnson2449
@wyatthicks-johnson2449 Жыл бұрын
The big question is, what do you think of using a FLC? I actually love it, I usually flip the belt around and use the buckle in the rear so it's more of a chest rig than a vest.
@SlimRhyno
@SlimRhyno Жыл бұрын
Making changes to your gear is a good thing! It means you've f'd up, learned a lesson, and then applied that lesson in a practical manner. Screwing up is not an inherently bad thing; screwing up when others are depending on you is.
@Ralffart
@Ralffart Жыл бұрын
I noticed the Bright Greet "2" on the Magazine on the Black Slick Plate Carrier. What is the Maker of that Marker and the Name of the. I like that green, highly Visible Close up.
@andre3470
@andre3470 2 жыл бұрын
Just getting my Veterans Day fix...
@grappler240
@grappler240 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff... absolutely love the channel and every second of video on it. However, for that skull face rifle lower... you're a straight up nerd, bro.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a skull face lower, that's a Arredondo Extended mag well.
@grappler240
@grappler240 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting AHH... gotcha. Just teasing you!!!
@fordwk
@fordwk Жыл бұрын
I wear both at the same time, plate carrier is plain and the rig has all my gear.
@user-rs1fo2dd9b
@user-rs1fo2dd9b 2 жыл бұрын
also, in an ARFCOM thread many years ago, a gentleman by the username Combat Diver who had served in the Navy's special operations community mentioned that CAG replaced their 1911s with 40 cal Glock 22s in the early years of GWOT. but their high volume of shooting led to many frames developing cracks and other wear & tear. this led to CAG quickly moving on to 9mm Glocks. would you happen to know why your colleagues over at CAG initially chose the 40 S&W cartridge to replace their 45 ACP, instead of going straight to 9mm Glocks like many others within the SOF community?
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
They started the switch around 2005 2006 I know combat diver, we both served in 5th SFG. He was in Special Forces a few years before me.
@Rubeless
@Rubeless Жыл бұрын
40 was the new it thing back in the 90s. We had 1911s and berettas, Glocks(40 cals) replaced the berettas in 97’. We switched to g21s and 19s by 98.
@brannybrapz
@brannybrapz 2 жыл бұрын
The drip at 4:07
@jasonkav
@jasonkav Жыл бұрын
Old but not obsolete…still got the moves there Ol’ Jeff G!
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Ralffart
@Ralffart Жыл бұрын
Thank was the the Bright "Green" "2"
@MT_Pant_Suit
@MT_Pant_Suit Жыл бұрын
Great video
@handroids1981
@handroids1981 Жыл бұрын
Liked, commenting and subscribed.
@UR_AL_SHOOK_UP
@UR_AL_SHOOK_UP Жыл бұрын
I got both and whats even perfect is my chest rig goes over my vest
@mdarks4117
@mdarks4117 9 ай бұрын
Looking for opinions on running using wolf grey or ranger green gear over multicam as a semi low vis option in an urban area SHTF situation, but not full collapse
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 9 ай бұрын
I think Wolf Gray or a ranger green is a great option.,
@907travelalot
@907travelalot 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for identifying yourself as retired I’m sure it will help you a lot. For un seasoned.
@GunDrummer
@GunDrummer Жыл бұрын
Binge watching tour videos
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting Жыл бұрын
Hell Yeah!
@isaac_bear
@isaac_bear Жыл бұрын
This is the only video I can find regarding the ats low vis rig. Can you fit a full sized pistol in that front pouch?
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting Жыл бұрын
A pistol will fit in the M4 Mag slot.
@isaac_bear
@isaac_bear Жыл бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting thanks for answering
@Aa-dr6ix
@Aa-dr6ix Жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff, what’s your opinion on side plates? When would you use side plates or forgo them if you had them?
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting Жыл бұрын
I wear side soft panels not hard plates too much weight. If I were a SWAT Cop only doing short movements, I would wear side hard plates.
@Oldguy1900
@Oldguy1900 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a small chested guy so my carrier is the xlarge 11x12 size but I use the regular size for a recon rig,lighter and still a bit of protection.
@notme3184
@notme3184 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious as to why you physically pull the used magazine out of your rifle prior to grabbing a replacement. Why not just let it drop? I only use Pmags, but I've never had an issue with them not just falling out.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
As a lefty since my hand is there it is out of habit and it is more positive than just letting it fall. Sure on a flat range perfect conditions mags generally fall free and you get super fast reloads but in combat especially running at night under nods and other stuff positive is better.
@notme3184
@notme3184 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting Thanks very much for the response. Great insight.
@shawnkessel625
@shawnkessel625 Жыл бұрын
What is your setup for the 4 IFAKS?
@pootytang2872
@pootytang2872 2 жыл бұрын
11:08 ankle socks!? dont let sgt major catch you
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
Always
@matty_kise
@matty_kise 2 ай бұрын
if im gonna die, i wanna die comfortable
@vincebrandt8137
@vincebrandt8137 Жыл бұрын
Off topic from carriers and chest rigs, but what mag well do you have on the ar/m16 platforms? Thanks in advance
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting Жыл бұрын
Arredondo see this video studio.kzbin.infoJUODUmsB9yM/edit
@micfasto8700
@micfasto8700 2 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for side plates and how to carry them.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer just side soft armor panels; they are in the ATS Plate carrier which has built in plate pockets in the cummerbund.
@skynet2032
@skynet2032 2 жыл бұрын
Would the pros and cons of chest rigs over plate carriers also apply to webbing like ALICE or Bundeswehr LKS over plate carriers?
@fathead8933
@fathead8933 2 жыл бұрын
I use an Eagle SFLCS harness over my slick carrier. It works. Plus when you don't need to sustain or aren't moving around dismounted, you can take it off. This allows for less fatigue. Little bulkier, but still works great.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
I always like the Britt method of a plate carrier over their giant PLC webbing, that distributes weight much better than just a chest harness,but it does take up a lot of room around the waist and getting in and out of vehicles definitely be an issue.But for long dismounted movements I see nothing wrong with an LCE type system and plate carrier
@LeonardMichaelis
@LeonardMichaelis 9 ай бұрын
What armor plates do you use ?
@Ywhls
@Ywhls 10 ай бұрын
11:06 WHAT ARE THOOOOOOOOSE!?
@zack9912000
@zack9912000 2 жыл бұрын
Will happily take the weight for my plate carrier. It is better then having holes in my chest. I have side plates as well. I don't have teamates anymore and need more protection then i did on AD
@fragnshrapnels
@fragnshrapnels 2 жыл бұрын
What about crawling with all these front attachements ? Seeing Ukraine footage I would like to stay mobile and as low as possible in a comfortable way. So what about hip/belt setups ?
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
I am all for your hip belt LCE type setups and just a plate carrier. I just never utilized it because you really can't fit in modern military armored vehicles with a big bulky LCE type of belt on.
@Dirty2Clean1980
@Dirty2Clean1980 8 ай бұрын
Im debaiting getting the fras, soft armor. It is one of the highest level armors, but should i use a plate carrier still ? Does it mske sense too?
@hailtothe_rooster1572
@hailtothe_rooster1572 2 ай бұрын
Get anything that will stop a 20” 556. That’s the minimum requirement. If it stops it reliably wear it.
@damienleimbach6574
@damienleimbach6574 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed you were wearing low cut shoes (Solomons maybe?) in a lot of the pictures. Did you not prefer boots? Can you do a segment on footwear and why you preferred the shoes? I think that goes against a lot of conventional wisdom. Thanks for the vid keep it up!
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
I wear exclusively Merrell's mostly low top, I have some heavier high cut ones for winter. I wore Merrell's, every Afghan tour. a 7-month tour in Afghanistan would destroy them, I just always bought more. I would say now, modern SF guys prefer Solomons over Merrells.
@Spushed
@Spushed 2 жыл бұрын
You're not a civilian, you're a veteran.
@Rubeless
@Rubeless Жыл бұрын
Which is a civilian. You must be the entitled vet that advertises it every day. Probably park in handicap spots
@Spushed
@Spushed Жыл бұрын
@@Rubeless negative nub. I am a disabled vet and I don't use them as their are way worse off people than I. Way to make an assumption and an ass of yourself all at the same time. Entitled? No. Proud? You better fucking believe it. There is a clear and definitive difference between a veteran and a civilian. By your response, you're a civilian regardless of your service status as their are those select few shitbags that somehow survive the elimination process no matter how much is done to filter your type. Back in your moist cave you go masticating on moss, regret, and envy.
@pjbottoms1313
@pjbottoms1313 Жыл бұрын
What type of hard plates do you recommend? Steel, Ceramic, Polyethylene?
@Rubeless
@Rubeless Жыл бұрын
Best you can afford. If you actually used them, they would be provided, so go with steel.
@WilsonCQB1911
@WilsonCQB1911 2 жыл бұрын
How important were mag changes in your experience? Did you have to emergency reload often? Did you have to reload at all often? Thanks.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
90% tac-reload, only time I deliberately shot to bolt lock, when laying down suppressive fire, usually from some sort of cover.
@brianleabo6295
@brianleabo6295 Жыл бұрын
So your opinion is still plats better then ceramic ?
@uhohstinky5925
@uhohstinky5925 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite channel!
@tomaspolacek5453
@tomaspolacek5453 2 жыл бұрын
What type is your short AR15?
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
That is an Adam's arms 7.5 upper
@ldn0224
@ldn0224 2 жыл бұрын
I am told SF guys do not carry plate carriers anymore. It looks like good for defense of a fort. I have noticed the vids of Afghanistan very few ever wore plates. They are heavy and bulky as I discovered personally.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
Myth, SF wear plate carriers specifically Crye AVS in many cases.
@ginge1394
@ginge1394 2 жыл бұрын
You should check out the warrior assault systems 901 chest rig. Its a chest rig that can be made a plate carrier and vise versa. Its incredibly modular, comfy and will last forever.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, I have a HSGI Weesatch (Does the same thing) I was going to cover in the video, but convertible rigs another subject.
@ginge1394
@ginge1394 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting Yeah mines been through the ringer, there’s also an armoured back panel to turn it into a full plate carrier, fantastic company you really should check them out!
@fathead8933
@fathead8933 2 жыл бұрын
@@ginge1394 I have their covert plate carrier. That's the basis for my system. I like it. Definitely an underappreciated and relatively unknown company.
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 2 жыл бұрын
Screw both. Alice belt.
@resolute123
@resolute123 Жыл бұрын
Your full rig, what level plates to you rock with? Level IV? They look thick.
@ModernTacticalShooting
@ModernTacticalShooting Жыл бұрын
Yep Level 4
@resolute123
@resolute123 Жыл бұрын
@@ModernTacticalShooting Thank you very much for your videos. I got my first plate carrier, which is the ATS Aegis (thank you for the discount code). In truth, I had initially gone with a competitor brand, but aside getting the wrong size, I didn't trust the laser cut molle it came, so I returned it and got your plate carrier. You were right about the extend mag well so I thought having a similar rig would work for me too (including your horizontal mag pouch). Now I need to train with it to see what works. I know your channel focuses on making holes and stopping holes, but I hope to see you do a couple of segments on plugging holes. Thanks again.
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