Why the BMW i4 will convert Petrolheads to Electric

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@fullychargedshow
@fullychargedshow 2 жыл бұрын
So which would you go for - the i4, a Tesla Model 3 or Polestar 2? Tell us your choice and why below!
@sg222
@sg222 2 жыл бұрын
Model 3
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
The one that won't have to be returned in a few months due to catastrophically poor quality control and build quality. Ten years ago you'd think that would be the Chinese manufacturer but not in reality it's tesla.
@S7tronic
@S7tronic 2 жыл бұрын
Polestar long range dual motor, the I4 seems like a phenomenal piece of engineering-I just don't think I could live with that grille.. Model frog face bringing up the rear.
@Halarue
@Halarue 2 жыл бұрын
I4
@sg222
@sg222 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-cw3rz is this about the i4 recall in the EU due to safety issue?
@markchip1
@markchip1 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, BMW, for not putting EVERYTHING in touch-control sub-menus but instead demonstrating that real life analogue buttons and dials don't just "still have a place in modern vehicles" but they're actually a hell of a lot safer and more intuitive on the move!!
@davidgould9431
@davidgould9431 2 жыл бұрын
I find voice control (triggered by a single push on a steering wheel button) works *much* better than faffing around with the touchscreen. Or having more than one or two buttons on the steering wheel. Or any non-steering wheel control (radios used to be well out of reach in the dim, distant, analogue past). Disclaimer: very recently upgraded a Leaf to a Tesla Model 3 and the touchscreen was a major pain until we figured out that the voice control actually works. More, real-life, analogue buttons don't seem so appealing. Your mileage obviously varies.
@oliverberger5946
@oliverberger5946 2 жыл бұрын
Voice control in the i4 BMW is a very bad. It's a joke. No comparison to Tesla. Just watch the Carwow review for example.
@Alex-tj1zo
@Alex-tj1zo 2 жыл бұрын
Here here ! 👍😁
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 2 жыл бұрын
Says the one who has never actually used a Touchscreen controlled car no a daily basis. So funny how people who really cant judge judge technology that they don't understand.
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 2 жыл бұрын
What they always forget to tell you is that while the supercharger network opens up you will have to pay way more to use it than a Tesla driver.
@gigabyte2248
@gigabyte2248 2 жыл бұрын
Jack (and team) *thank you* so much! This review gives an honest, driver-focused comparison between the i4 and the Model 3. I am not a car person and can't imagine I'll ever buy a saloon car, but I really wanted to know if the BMW i4 had that BMW-ness that it needed to seriously compete with the Model 3. Tesla Model 3, Polestar 2, BMW i4... soon the Hyundai Ioniq 6 and the Mercedes EQE. Serious competition is good for consumers
@MichaelPickles
@MichaelPickles 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like a bot that's generated a fandom response to this review. I don't think you can honestly say this is an honest review. You're not a car person and you're not going to buy a saloon car... You've said it yourself.
@gigabyte2248
@gigabyte2248 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelPickles I'm an (electrical) engineering person - I'm really interested in charging tech, traction inverters (and the rise of SiC - that's my day-job) and efficiency. I play the tuba, so I'll be shopping for estates/SUVs that will take a tuba in the boot or a hatchback that will take the tuba in the back and save me £10000 or whatever. I currently drive a 2nd-gen Nissan Leaf (and the tuba goes in the back and marks the seats with mud occasionally, ho-hum). I've driven the Tesla Model 3. I don't like it: I was adjusting the seat for the entire drive and never got it to be comfortable, to say nothing of the practicality of the body vs. my tuba. I wouldn't buy a BMW, Audi or Merc either, if only to escape the stigma of those cars being driven badly. But I understand and accept that there are some people who don't have to transport tubas and who want a fast, exciting car. Why should they all drive Model 3s? Competition *is* good. The Tesla Model 3 has some amazing engineering in it, but there are some people who will never want one. These people deserve to have good cars to choose from and Tesla shouldn't rest on their laurels just because their tech is 2-5 years ahead of everyone else. I am glad that the BMW i4 is good in the ways that it needs to be.
@MichaelPickles
@MichaelPickles 2 жыл бұрын
@@gigabyte2248 ok, your not a bot then. And if we are sharing, I too am a geek. People would consider me a super user and early adopter. Maybe you should look at a model Y for comparisons. People except what they're told. Reviews are paid or have an incentive to hyper products. I just feel like the review was pulling the wool over people's eyes. And the extraordinary amount of people gushing over it in the reviews. Was throwing up red flags for me. Ask yourself in all honesty, Is that a good car. Or just more of the same old marketing tricks.
@andrewsaint6581
@andrewsaint6581 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Kia EV6. The dealer near me did events to get Tesla drivers in it. They've stopped now. Can't get stock. Great car.
@MichaelPickles
@MichaelPickles 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldbastedI have no doubt it's good on the road they've had over 100 years to perfected. My problem is it's an analogue device with a digital retrofit (ICE Vs EV) Comparing a tesla model 3 to a vehicle that costs much more is not logical. You could compare it to a model Y and a spare 10 grand in your pocket. Not to mention BMW charging you for servicing an electric vehicle. And a resale value that is not as good. It's all economics.
@glenf4115
@glenf4115 2 жыл бұрын
The scenic views in this episode are fantastic, much appreciated during these dark winter months.
@shhhyouknowhoo3753
@shhhyouknowhoo3753 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Absolutely phenomenal. Jack waxing ever more lyrical & brilliantly descriptive in this. Excellent production. Can’t afford it, but LOVE that car.
@maxflight777
@maxflight777 2 жыл бұрын
It’s utter (BMW funded ) bullshit ! Spec it to the same as a equivalent MY and it’s 58.5K! For a car that is inferior in EVERY measurable respect. I can’t think of a the BM has over the MY. (Maybe better dealer service ? … in my experience, BMW dealers are superb)
@taladon6420
@taladon6420 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxflight777 the tesla looks like a squished frog, doesn't have a hatchback and isn't as good to drive
@peterthompson9854
@peterthompson9854 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxflight777 MY?
@kommentierenderkommentator2572
@kommentierenderkommentator2572 Жыл бұрын
@@maxflight777 teslas are rather unreliable and their interieur quality is not even close to BMW interiors. It's the quality that makes a BMW more expensive. Your decision if you want to pay a few extra thousands for that. I think it's worth it. And drivingwise I prefer the i4 a lot compared to the teslas I've driven
@Pilotfarmand
@Pilotfarmand 2 жыл бұрын
Even though, Jack has been a part of the team some times now. I will say he makes excellent reviews, and is the perfect match for the channel.
@lotsofkats7948
@lotsofkats7948 2 жыл бұрын
I liked how you described the essence will live on in its electric successor.
@curtisbme
@curtisbme 2 жыл бұрын
That pointless front grill is what happens when the marketing people are desperate to have a visual branding that is distinctive and attractive but struggle and just give up on the attractive part.
@tommoger
@tommoger 2 жыл бұрын
It has to have a kidney grille, that’s an iconic BWM styling feature. Same reason the i3 has one
@Laura-S196
@Laura-S196 2 жыл бұрын
I think the front grill is ugly
@curtisbme
@curtisbme 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommoger Yeah, it was ugly when the designed it for their gas cars. It didn't just get ugly here. It is just that here the ugliness doesn't even serve a purpose since it isn't a grill.
@curtisbme
@curtisbme 2 жыл бұрын
@Mattejko Yes, Stockholm Syndrome is a real thing. ;)
@curtisbme
@curtisbme 2 жыл бұрын
@Mattejko Called opinion and humor but that is fine. We'll put you in the shill catagory.
@Vormulac1
@Vormulac1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one. The omission of the rear wiper on modern cars vexes me enormously.
@connclissmann6514
@connclissmann6514 2 жыл бұрын
The ICE based design has a big impact on the back seat users, important with a family car.
@maxflight777
@maxflight777 2 жыл бұрын
I agree (assuming you are referring to “knees up to your chest” seating designs ….) Try a Tesla MY .. the rear is spacious and comfortable
@sebastiantevel898
@sebastiantevel898 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxflight777 I am not even remotely contemplating that option. those who sit in the back will have to suffer.
@ussamanayyer2570
@ussamanayyer2570 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxflight777 You talk like a typical Elon bot 🤖
@davegenet
@davegenet 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxflight777 Would you recommend purchasing a Tesla?
@timmurphy5541
@timmurphy5541 2 жыл бұрын
I was in Ulm in 2014 when Nokia shutdown their office and BMW came to hire us to work on their new software system which was going to be connected and intelligent. Some of my friends joined them. I'm chuffed to hear they did a good job :-)
@djprojectus
@djprojectus 2 жыл бұрын
What chuffed means?
@timmurphy5541
@timmurphy5541 2 жыл бұрын
@@djprojectus happy or very pleased. It's an old kind of slang.
@djprojectus
@djprojectus 2 жыл бұрын
@@timmurphy5541 Thank you👍
@darknock
@darknock 2 жыл бұрын
Been there too. Glad to see that the car is programmed so well, I think other companies don’t put that much attention to this very important part of the car
@raftonpounder6696
@raftonpounder6696 Жыл бұрын
@@djprojectus use a dictionary
@TheWinstn60
@TheWinstn60 2 жыл бұрын
How much better could it be if it wasn't designed as an EV/ICE vehicle
@HanYou2
@HanYou2 2 жыл бұрын
I am so mad, if it was ev platform based with frunk and leg room for adults in the back, i'd go and buy it tomorrow
@zoomosis
@zoomosis 2 жыл бұрын
Presumably at some point in not-too-distant future it will evolve into a fully EV design. They won't be making the ICE model i4 forever.
@pawpawbandit3871
@pawpawbandit3871 2 жыл бұрын
bmw iVisison circular is a true EV with no ice
@HariHullur
@HariHullur 2 жыл бұрын
Loved that review Jack. Thank you. Would just like to offer my two cents. I agree that the eDrive 40 is the more sensible way to go. But I actually put a reservation on one, and chose the M50. Despite the lower range, I live in Canada, and the 4WD option being available only on the M50 makes it the only sensible option for our winters here.
@karlbloss
@karlbloss 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic presentation! As a Yank of German origin, I love Jack's style and British wit. The Audi review "There's quite a lot of cow in this car" and now "battery shoved up its bum" are now immortalized in my brain after a hearty literal LOL. Thanks for putting this car on my radar and BMW is graduating from its i3 days.
@littlebootsxxiv6871
@littlebootsxxiv6871 2 жыл бұрын
So BMW have successfully transposed an electric motor into their standard petrol car. Great achievement, no doubt, but also a missed opportunity. What could they have done with the interior if they'd developed an ev platform? How could they have adjusted the handling and poise of the vehicle? We'll never know - or we'll have to wait for a future generation to find out. I think they've played it safe and created a vehicle that the petrol heads and so-called "drivers" will be happy to buy when they come to renew their chariot of choice. I'm not convinced it's a major step forward for ev's though.
@hotrod182
@hotrod182 2 жыл бұрын
The Bespoke ix platform has been described as a brilliant piece of engineering.
@andrewsaint6581
@andrewsaint6581 2 жыл бұрын
@@hotrod182 so has the introduction of gigacasting by Tesla. That's why Herbert Deiss of VWG says Tesla only need 10 hours to build a car when they take 30.
@hotrod182
@hotrod182 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsaint6581 I don't think BMW will even try to mass produce these cars yet. Just like the i3 had revolutionary CFRP construction for that class of car, BMW wasn't interested in mass producing them. There were times when they weren't even shipping them to the U.S. I ordered my i4 last June, and I will be lucky to get it this June, a full year. I was almost tempted to get a Tesla M3P just because of the wait. But just this week, the last few KZbin reviews have been picking the i4 as being the better car. So BMW seems to be more desirable, and the Tesla easier (and cheaper) to get.
@zoomosis
@zoomosis 2 жыл бұрын
Now all Tesla needs to do is design a Model 3 that runs on petrol. Only kidding.
@sebastiantevel898
@sebastiantevel898 2 жыл бұрын
@@zoomosis Or one that actually looks good. I think Musk wanted the to be deliberately ugly, just to prove he still will sell them to the targeted customers.
@EVsteve80
@EVsteve80 2 жыл бұрын
Your review makes me happy I ordered an i4. I hope I feel all the joy that you projected.
@MrMazon12345
@MrMazon12345 4 ай бұрын
My brand new i4 m50 arrived last week. Absoluuuutely love it. And you are correct, petrol head here who has had a host of performance ICE cars. Best car i've driven and no range anxiety!
@jasonblair4057
@jasonblair4057 2 жыл бұрын
I4 or P2 once I get to have a go with them in the spring. No to model 3, did not like the suspension (Far to busy.) or not having at least a heads up display. When paying over $50k there are no excuses for poor quality, it will drive me insane.
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla is quickly losing it's major advantage, being first and being good enough. The rest is catching up quickly and teslas are simply not good enough anymore. They really need to up their game or position themselves as more of a budget brand.
@paulklp8262
@paulklp8262 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the Polestar 2 came with the Brembos and Ohlins as standard. The drive away price is too high even for a single motor with the extra packages installed.
@gregduncan2794
@gregduncan2794 Жыл бұрын
Jack is one of the if not the best EV reviewers out there, love the way he gets the message across without all the bullshit and condescending attitude likes lots of others.
@FinnUnv
@FinnUnv 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had the money for all these cars. My current budget includes a bike, and to be honest, that's all I need.
@dimitrioskatzigkas4796
@dimitrioskatzigkas4796 Жыл бұрын
The car is great for us sedan lovers, but Jack was brilliant in this presentation. Excellent review!!!
@slicksalmon6948
@slicksalmon6948 4 ай бұрын
Two years later... Lovely review. I just sat in one. I think you make the necessary point that this car has a "cocoon-like" sitting position. It's very much a personal sports sedan in the tradition of the old 3-series before that car lost its soul. The i4 eDrive is a 'family' car in name only. You buy something like this if you love to drive.
@StevenRoby
@StevenRoby 2 жыл бұрын
Test Drove the US version last night. I agree with everything you said here, but you didn't sit in the back seat at all, and I would be interested in your comments there. I'm 5' 11" and i didn't fit all that well back there (especially that my feet didn't really have a comfortable place to go). It'll be mostly me and my wife driving in it, so back seats aren't a deal-breaker, but that is one area where I feel the i4 falls short. However, I totally agree with the eDrive40 version over the M50. It has MAD acceleration especially when already at cruising speed. I appreciate having more range and the better handling too. Thanks for a great review!
@slug781
@slug781 2 жыл бұрын
For me, I’ll stick with my MG5. I can keep £30k in the bank and it’s got a bigger boot. It’s also still fast enough that I can destroy knob heads In Audis with a flick of my right ankle. It’s my new favourite hobby
@superbecx
@superbecx 2 жыл бұрын
Where u at? I ll race you with my trailer on
@ToneTravels
@ToneTravels 2 жыл бұрын
Mines getting delivered on Monday! Can't wait.
@garrycroft4215
@garrycroft4215 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I wouldn't buy an EV that wasn't built ground up, The centre tunnel is hideous. Way too expensive. Agree it should have a rear wiper and a frunk. Next
@JackScarlett1
@JackScarlett1 2 жыл бұрын
As you may know, I tend to feel the same. But the cockpit feel just makes sense to me in a driver's car!
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 2 жыл бұрын
Garry, I get where you are coming from... But as a comparison.... See the Electrifying test on Model 3 and i4.... It is interesting. Bearing in mind that I personally dislike Tesla and don't like the look of current BMW's.... Great comparison test, especially what can be carried and towed.
@IkkapAggin
@IkkapAggin 2 жыл бұрын
Im so happy you won't buy one😁
@aston-martin-internationalist
@aston-martin-internationalist 7 ай бұрын
This is exactly the reason I WOULD buy an EV and in fact I have just ordered an i4. I don't give a rat's behind that it has a little hump in the rear - doesn't bother me one bit. I love the fact that it looks like a normal car and has a much better driving experience. I also don't particularly care that it doesn't have a frunk - it has has very large useable boot. Next.....
@alfonsofornabaio3482
@alfonsofornabaio3482 2 жыл бұрын
BMW owes to you. After this review I surely will hit the nearest BMW dealership. Regards from Italy.
@steved7085
@steved7085 2 жыл бұрын
I recently took an i4 for a test drive. It was good, but not enough to make me really want it. I've never driven a BMW before, and it was certainly a very good car. I did however find the steering wheel rather chunky and the feedback was a bit numb compared to a hydraulic system, to be expected I suppose. I thought the view over the bonnet and being able to easily see the road and what might be directly in front of the car , like a bollard, a bit poor. The cabin was very refined, and the only thing I picked up on was wind noise from the side windows, probably a feature of being frameless. I currently drive a 2013 E Class, which after the i4 test, I still prefer. It has much better all round visibility, is quieter (not under acceleration), better steering, and is a lot more comfortable. I'm being very picky about a small number of things that didn't impress me, but it's probably because I've driven the Merc for so many years I'm looking for something that will 'greatly' improve on that experience. I had high hopes for the i4 but sadly it didn't do it for me, though the acceleration was amazing!
@jonathantaylor1998
@jonathantaylor1998 2 жыл бұрын
You'll no doubt be chuffed to hear, then, that the new Mercedes EQE saloon is launched this year... 😎
@steved7085
@steved7085 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, but dealers have no idea when it will be available. I'm looking forward to testing one though. The Lucid looks really good, but there's no mention of it coming to the UK.
@misterdragzon
@misterdragzon 2 жыл бұрын
First video I’ve seen from this channel and good stuff! Appreciate a reviewer that does electric cars while being rooted deeply in car heritage.
@dmpanis
@dmpanis 2 жыл бұрын
This Jack guy has it good! Great review amazing car coming in two months in my country and I am doing my best not to place an order before driving it.
@marvinisrael1671
@marvinisrael1671 2 жыл бұрын
@dmpanis Like you, I'm dying to order one, but it would be irresponsible to do so without a test drive. I've been told that one will be available at the end of March for a test drive (USA).
@BevanEdwards
@BevanEdwards 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible review and an incredible car. I currently drive a 2008 530i and if I could afford to swap it out with an i4 I absolutely would - in a heartbeat.
@walterm294
@walterm294 Жыл бұрын
I switch my M440 for an I4 a few weeks ago. I am in love with it!!
@jonblacklock1052
@jonblacklock1052 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought BMW’s mistake was failing to develop a 3 or 4 series type EV with all the learning they had from the i3. It looks like they are finally getting there.
@andrewsaint6581
@andrewsaint6581 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, tragic waste of 8 years.
@kiwiskiz
@kiwiskiz 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Wipers. My 1993 Peugeot 405 SRDT (in NZ) had blade mounted wiper jets.... I still miss the feck out of that feature... and the car too, was a gem. 500,000k's and my brother saw to its demise sadly. Bring on the future of motoring!
@anguspaterson5713
@anguspaterson5713 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Hyundai Ioniq 6 will be a big player in this segment from later this year, and will be cheaper than all of the 'big three' (polestar, bmw, Tesla). If it's anywhere near as good to drive then it'll sell lots too
@philliptemple4534
@philliptemple4534 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. Since a year ago the Ioniq 5 has been getting rave reviews. I think they sold a total of 16,000 in the whole of Europe for the whole of 2021. Plenty of demand yet no deliveries in sight for those I read about in forums. I suspect they are losing quite a lot of money on each car. I bet the Ioniq 6 will get great reviews... but will you actually get one delivered this year? Phillip.
@anguspaterson5713
@anguspaterson5713 2 жыл бұрын
@@philliptemple4534 I haven't heard of the Ioniq 5 struggling for sales, but if that is the case then fair enough - it is in the much more crowded crossover segment of the EV market, and I've read online that the sister car Kia EV6 is selling incredibly well, with year-long wait times right now or new ones. Maybe that's part of why the Ioniq 5 isn't doing such high numbers. In the EV exec saloon sector though, there's much less of a crowded market, with no Kia sister car yet, nothing from VW group yet, nothing from Stellantis yet nothing affordable from Merc yet, and nothing from Toyota or really any of the big Japanese names yet (plenty of hybrids but very few pure EVs). So I still think the Ioniq 6 could shine, and sell well, next to the Tesla, BMW and Polestar.
@philliptemple4534
@philliptemple4534 2 жыл бұрын
@@anguspaterson5713 The dealers are struggling with sales as they don't have stock. Hyundai have plenty of demand, just decided not to make any cars. VW have the worst cars but the highest sales. Simply because they are making more. Check out the "price gouging" news on KZbin where Ford/GM/etc are trying to crack down on dealers charging up to 50k over list price if you want a reasonable delivery date. This year, Kia will sell as many as they can make. The question is how many will they make. Phillip.
@anguspaterson5713
@anguspaterson5713 2 жыл бұрын
@@philliptemple4534 ah I see - I misunderstood your comment, I thought you were saying there was low demand for Kia/Hyundai. But yes the supply chain crisis (plus they they don't have factory as big as VW group's is) the more likely culprit. A shame, because I agree with you that the VW group cars are the worse cars!
@Robis-
@Robis- 2 жыл бұрын
fog in the front headlights. Premium quality
@felixokeefe
@felixokeefe 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Mercedes have been doing the windscreen washer jets on the wipers thing since the 90s
@nr5494
@nr5494 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Jack. I’d love to see what exactly IS under that bonnet though, given it’s RWD. I’m sure it’s not batteries, except perhaps low down. How much space does the power electronics need?
@bengoldthorpe311
@bengoldthorpe311 2 жыл бұрын
Fun light review. Enjoyed it.
@HerrRiebmann
@HerrRiebmann 2 жыл бұрын
I like that car but I have to say that I really like the quality of your video! Wow! That´s on par with the best Top Gear episodes back in the days...
@bartekb5074
@bartekb5074 2 жыл бұрын
One year of waiting for one in Poland...
@neilbetts9253
@neilbetts9253 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Mine’s on order and reassured after watching this review
@FraeschD
@FraeschD 2 жыл бұрын
I'm interested to see where those will sit on the used market in 5 years.
@JohnDoe-bd5sz
@JohnDoe-bd5sz 2 жыл бұрын
In 5 years battery price has dropped, battery density has incresed due to new technology, and the safety and comfort features have evolved a lot. (A bit like the first Iphone compared to the one they released 5 years later) So new cars will be cheaper, have longer range and more tech than this one, that with a bit of battery degradation will have even less range than the new one. The depreciation on an "old tech" car, that this will be considered in 5 years, will be immense.
@Ashes3123
@Ashes3123 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz except this is not true. We know because eletric cars had this same issue 5 years ago, and theses are barely losing any money
@jonathantaylor1998
@jonathantaylor1998 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz Yes, as Abdul says below, 5 year old EV prices are nuts... I've just sold my 5 year old Gen 1 Leaf 30kWh for (ever-so-slightly) more than I paid for it 2 years ago, having adding about 25,000 miles over that time. 👍
@xxgunslingerxx
@xxgunslingerxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashes3123 thats only because the car market is messed up at the moment. The same thing would apply to ICE cars
@JohnDoe-bd5sz
@JohnDoe-bd5sz 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathantaylor1998 I agree, prices right now are insane. I recently bought a solar panel array with a battery pack, the return on investment was based on me, using my own solar power to charge the car in the summer months. Right now, the ROI is better, if i do NOT buy an EV and just sell the electricity for small change to the electricity company. I would NEVER be able to earn back, the extra money i would have to pay for an EV right now, so unless something changes radically i will not be buying an EV this year either. Sadly i fear that this will be an ongoing problem for years, with the instability in the world. Also there seems to be a real risk, that the economy will crash like 2008, just worse, and if this happens, offcourse there will be some people that need to sell their EV's because they can not afford them, but from what i see and read, it seems the crash this time will come from China, and that will be bad, because so much of the tech in EV's are produced in China. (Chips.....And whole cars). My "luck" is that i don't HAVE to do anything, the 2 cars i have are in relatively good condition and can easily run for another 5+ years, so i have the luxury of being able to wait. But unless this state of low availability of cars and EV's is resolved fairly quickly, it will also make it problematic to get the transition to EV's up in gear to be able to meet the goals set. Here we have a rather unambitious goal of 600.000 EV's on the road in 2030 (Population 6 million) but right now i would think that this goal would not be met, especially because right now a LOT of so called "Green" hybrid cars are sold and counted as "EV's" but in 2025 it seems the EU will mandate that hybrid cars are NOT to be called "Green" og "EV" so they disappear. Rightfully so, they just revealed a report, stating that the hybrids are NOT very enviromentally friendly. Partly because a lot of users do not charge their hybrids very often, but just run it on petrol, and partly because the electricity in reality is not always green. The reason so many people buy hybrids but do not charge them, is they live in appartments or houses with street parking, where charging is not feasible. The reason they bought a hybrid, is because they are cheaper because of registration tax rebate. A hybrid running on petrol is worse than the equivalent pure petrol car, as the petrol car does not have to lug around hundreds of kilos of electric motor and batteries.
@harwichharbourferry6310
@harwichharbourferry6310 2 жыл бұрын
Getting better and better Jack. Thank you
@Paul_
@Paul_ 2 жыл бұрын
Love Jack's style and humour. Perhaps a few more practicalities would be helpful; where is the chargeport (could it use a supercharger without blocking 2 spaces?) and what's the rear seating like if the floor is higher than the ICE version to accommodate the batteries?
@danielburges8176
@danielburges8176 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder will it steal sales from Tesla or Polestar, but instead just cannibalise existing BMW 3/4 ICE sales?
@JackScarlett1
@JackScarlett1 2 жыл бұрын
Oh it's definitely gonna do a lot of that. Just like Taycan did to Panamera. Beautiful!
@gwarlow
@gwarlow 2 жыл бұрын
What were Tesla sales last year, compared with Polestar?
@cazcam2000
@cazcam2000 2 жыл бұрын
I think you are missing the bigger picture... I don't see the BMW i4 stealing the modal 3 customers from Tesla, I see the i4 taking from the ICE car fraternity. Yes, some people will choose the i4 over the model 3, but that isn't going to stop the sales of both the M3 and MY drastically increasing over the next few years. It's the ICE car sales that will suffer. It's quite ironic, really, it's quite likely that BMW's ICE car sales will suffer the most, as BMW drivers swap their ICE equivalent, for an EV!
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
You are right Tesla coustomers are too fanatical too change.
@mydutube
@mydutube 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Alex-cw3rz Tesla has more haters than fans from what I've seen. This comment section probably has more fans of course, but I'm talking more in general. Studies have shown that people who express hate online score high on psychopath subscale.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
@@mydutube I'd say it's very different tesla fanboys are vitriolic and have a god complex for Musk, whereas people who don't like Tesla it's a lot more mild and it'll be because of their poor quality control, use of child labour, having very unsafe factories, so won't buy one and that's as far as their hate goes.
@mydutube
@mydutube 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-cw3rz I don't agree. Have you been on twitter or Facebook or reddit? The fans I've interacted with have been pretty reasonable. Haters on the other hand are nasty and almost seem like an organized trolling and smearing campaign. I've seen some comment who just don't like musk because of some misapprehantion which is fine But there are people with 10s of thousands of followers in twitter hating on one company or person full time, that is pretty fishy. They call it $TSLAQ on twitter.
@4literv6
@4literv6 2 жыл бұрын
Noticed Jack was careful not to mention that the most common conquest trade in on the world's best selling ev is? Why the BMW 3 series of course. That's right tesla haters and BMW fanatics. The BMW 3 series is the most commonly traded in vehicle for a new tesla model 3. I wonder why that is? Why would well heeled folks who actually own a bmw trade it in by the droves for an allegedly worse car. 😀
@lewisk3725
@lewisk3725 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review.
@businessim
@businessim 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you mentioned not preferring the m50 as the regular i4 has plenty of power to it, but you didn’t mentioned that the m50 has the 4 wheel drive. Does that changes your comment ? Note that I live in Canada with a lot of snow and 4 wheel drive is really appreciated here.
@tubularG
@tubularG 2 жыл бұрын
Drivetrains were mentioned and a symbol included denoting this car's rear wheel drive setup. Probably wouldn't change his opinion as it's less important here. Perhaps discuss the snow/ice driving capability of the M50 with BMW
@hjlee7058
@hjlee7058 8 ай бұрын
Very detailed and beautiful video.👍👍👍we got the exact one before Christmas. That is fantastic ❤
@duncanjack2335
@duncanjack2335 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that I had washer jets on the wiper arms of my secondhand Citroen BX back in the nineties.
@alanthomas9369
@alanthomas9369 2 жыл бұрын
Great review with HUD comfort and quietness it’s the car for me. Excellent local customer service and obviously a quality built motor add to its desirability.
@winfriedtheis5767
@winfriedtheis5767 2 жыл бұрын
I am with you, Jack, on preferring the more “build in” or better build around you feel in a car like the i4. Tbh it was for me the argument to go for the EV6 over the Ioniq 5! I don’t have family so mostly use the car on my own and I like to drive. And sorry to the Tesla fans: when it comes to design, finish and refinement of drivetrain, BMW sets the standards…
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they do, but they don’t set the standards for reliability. I owned one of the magnificent E39 525’s between 2001 and 2010. Wonderful car to drive but my goodness it needed a lot of upkeep. Your choice has just been voted Premium car of the year...in Germany no less. We are delighted with our e-Niro after almost 3 years of ownership. Kia are on the up.
@cfcprice
@cfcprice 2 жыл бұрын
Great review - thanks!😊
@rklauco
@rklauco 2 жыл бұрын
It starts to be quite sad that every video that even mentions Tesla or Musk has to ask people to not ruin the comments.
@Patrick-bu5vy
@Patrick-bu5vy 2 жыл бұрын
Elon's misinformation machine works around the clock to keep the punters confused.
@AnthonyWoodruffe
@AnthonyWoodruffe 2 жыл бұрын
I really don’t get how a car with less performance, less range, less features but costs 5 figures more than the model 3 can be graded better because it has a few analog buttons and higher quality interior materials. I just don’t see how the extra quality is worth that extra money? If it was say 3 or 4 grand more, then yeah, but it’s not.
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 2 жыл бұрын
Why have anything more then lada's for everyone right! Build qauility, comfort and driving experiernce is what sells cars in a big part of the market. Another big part is value first. Both have choices now.
@AnthonyWoodruffe
@AnthonyWoodruffe 2 жыл бұрын
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 it’s not about one car for all. Its about how one can come to the conclusion that a more expensive car with inferior capabilities can be deemed better. But let’s suppose that given both cars have the same range, acceleration,/performance and both cars are matched in specification, the I4 comes out just shy of £9000 more expensive.. Even according to this review it seems that 9K is basically for the BMW interior experience. This car is going to capture 2 types of customer. The already Avid BMW owner who is desperate to stay loyal or someone who absolutely refuses to consider anything Tesla. Which is why I wrote “if it was 3 or 4 grand more” that BMW experience it would be justifiable.
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnthonyWoodruffe what you call inferiour others simply do not care about. Cars aren't about spec sheets. The bmw has all the range, performance and most of the features one needs. Things being there you'll never use really adds no extra value to some while others feel this to be important One thing bmw bmw always has in spades is user and driver experience where tesla are just appliences that drive fine but look like they where desinged in 2005, and to some that is good enough while others want more from their car. There used to be koreans with all the features and big engines, that where a bit cheaper and drove like wet mops and there where the german premium brands without a lot of the fluff but with other desirable aspects to them. An both had their clientele and this is no different. Do you like the gadgets and just want to get from a to b by all means buy a tesla. If you rather have a premium product that makes you feel special everytime you drive it buy a bmw or the porsche. No need to be so childish about it, we arent 12 year olds arguing on the playground anymore lol.
@AnthonyWoodruffe
@AnthonyWoodruffe 2 жыл бұрын
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 childish? Really? Nothing you have written makes your opinion anymore valid than mine.
@riccaregio
@riccaregio 2 жыл бұрын
Let's just say that, for me there are two things that stops me from buying a Tesla 3 (not including the money obvs): the minimalistic interior with everything (and I mean all the controls and the instruments) in a central touch screen sucks. I like my eyes to drop vertically on a speedo in the shorter possible path from looking at the road. Second for me the minimalistic interior of the Tesla doesn't do it (as I said personal taste). Plus I have a bimmer and I completely hate the rear lights on T3 (try to drive a couple of miles behind one at night and you will agree with me)
@SuperCatbert
@SuperCatbert 2 жыл бұрын
agree its a better built car and better ergonomics/interior. Would be worried about real world range in the cold, and battery degredation and its a heavy fella. I would likely just buy a base model 3 with LFP battery. charge to 100 and run to 0 and no issues.
@__-pl3jg
@__-pl3jg 2 жыл бұрын
Without a robust 250kw per hour supercharger network all EV competitors are heavily disadvantaged towards Tesla.
@mark-govers
@mark-govers 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it appears Tesla will be opening up to other makes? We'll see. I still love the air filtration system on the Model S though, don't want to be breathing in the particles from gas/diesel etc. Someday, we can all breathe easy in any city!
@stephanmetph6098
@stephanmetph6098 2 жыл бұрын
Jack, the jets in wipers is 20th century Citroën technology... And when can we buy a normal electric stationcar instead of needless heavy SUVs when you need the luggage space??
@gwarlow
@gwarlow 2 жыл бұрын
To the title creator: How about not using the overused “tesla killer” in the title. That’s the best you could come up with? Cheers.
@pmc9079
@pmc9079 2 жыл бұрын
super job! enjoyed that
@armadillito
@armadillito 2 жыл бұрын
The profile is very elegant, yes, but what is all that bonnet for??
@sevensixtysteve8662
@sevensixtysteve8662 2 жыл бұрын
Great review and good to see the legacy manufacturers increasing their offerings in the EV world. I guess only time will tell to see if buyers go with a conservative approach like this BMW or more clean sheet designs like Tesla, Hyundai etc. Hopefully there is room for both approaches. Personally I would go for a car designed as an EV with all the tech and advantages it offers - then, when I do finally give up combustion power, I won't be reminded of it every time I climb behind the wheel :o)
@__-pl3jg
@__-pl3jg 2 жыл бұрын
When cell phones morphed into smart phones, hardware became only one facet of what made them so special. Smart phones had an ecosystem (app stores) to support future functions and were able to recieve regular user interface updates over the air. EVs are very similar. We can no longer simply compare acceleration/top speed/range/interior design, ect. We have to look at the total user experience including charging network, software updates, automatic features such as self driving capabilities, ect. So, Im glad BMW has brought some new EVs to the market but what is the user experience like? Does it auto route you to chargers as needed while driving long distances? Or do you have to manually locate a public charger yourself? Does it have any kind of entertainment system to use while you wait to charge? Is BMW currently building their own supercharger network to support their products? Is BMW constantly refining their customer user experience with over the air updates? Those are questions that need to be asked from ALL EV manufacturers.
@Matt-wg9xn
@Matt-wg9xn 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda annoying they left the foot hump in the backseat. I get it's based on a petrol version but was it really that much of a lift to flatten that element? Answer is probably cost in the production process but it irks me a bit.
@kh2716
@kh2716 2 жыл бұрын
Tried the BMW Edrive 40 yesterday, lovely car but coming from a Tesla Model 3 Performance, it didn't feel quick enough. The M50 is next to try but to be honest, I feel like I couldn't leave Tesla right now... and I am not a typical fan boy, but driving a Tesla you become used to the go kart style feel to it. The visibility is superb, its so simple and so responsive. I am due to check out the Etron GT too, but honestly, I think I will end up with another Model 3 P.
@apocreg11
@apocreg11 2 жыл бұрын
If I wasn’t needing the SUV for now would so have ordered this! Have an IX3 instead which I’m loving but next time maybe so, depending on the kids cargo needs!
@curtis7258
@curtis7258 2 жыл бұрын
Love the review. Please turn if the video stabilisation, wobbling BMW’s are not good.
@meestert33
@meestert33 2 жыл бұрын
Wipers on wiper arms isnt exactly ground breaking. :)
@Smith_Tech_70
@Smith_Tech_70 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review Jack!! I'm a 435d Gran Coupe owner, and this would be the natural move for me, but I'm stuck between the edrive 40 and the M50 as far as acceleration goes. I love getting pushed back in the seat, and feel like it's a shame that the edrive 40 doesn't sit at the same level that my 435d does (4.7 secs to 60). So I would love a model that is squeezed firmly between these two. Perhaps an acceleration upgrade to the edrive 40 would be perfect. Tesla and polestar off it now, so fingers crossed. Just got to find the dosh now. 🙂
@MrKlawUK
@MrKlawUK 2 жыл бұрын
its probably not as far off as the numbers would suggest - the way EVs respond instantly to throttle input and have continuous power with no gear changes, they often feel faster than their 0-60 times would suggest. I’ve stuck with Tesla mainly for supercharger availability and both cars are close. Next time I may get back into a BMW (also a previous 4GC owner)
@Radaos
@Radaos 2 жыл бұрын
Also a 435d owner and was eagerly awaiting the i4, but... it's way too heavy. The 435d is 1775 kg, Tesla M3P is 1847 kg, the M50 is a whopping 2290 kg. That does not help handling as other reviewers have found. Should have gone with a dedicated EV platform.
@Smith_Tech_70
@Smith_Tech_70 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrKlawUK You were spot on!! I'm ordering mine today. Went for a test drive in the edrive40 M Sport last night, as I had concerns over performance compared to my current 435d Gran Coupe. Let me just say that I need not have worried. It feels quicker in every way, even though on paper, it's slower. I'm still grinning now. 😁 The ability to waft along in silence is an amazing feeling, even though I've been used to one of the best performing and sounding diesels on the planet. I won't miss the noise at all. Plus, the i4 is one of the few EVs with a decent towing capacity for my caravan.
@AssaultedPeanut
@AssaultedPeanut 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode 👍
@toggler6985
@toggler6985 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason many are thinking about turning to EVs is the ridiculous higher price of gasoline, certainly isn’t a BMW.
@Keneo1
@Keneo1 2 жыл бұрын
First time I noticed, but I can understand that you like buttons and knobs when you have to operate the media and climate with your non primary hand. I would also have some issues operating everything with my left hand. Luckily I don’t live in a right side steering wheel country while being right handed
@simonplatt6040
@simonplatt6040 2 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your reviews Jack, but did I miss the interior cabin and boot space section in this one? 🤷‍♂️
@stephenlane9168
@stephenlane9168 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Liked this video. Very compelling 👌👏
@colinclarkemanofalltrades
@colinclarkemanofalltrades 2 жыл бұрын
now i am begining to understand why i should go electric and send the volvo V70 to it,s final resting place
@andrewlarner6190
@andrewlarner6190 2 жыл бұрын
Really useful review, as was the EV6. Would be interested in your views on how they compare. Especially for taller drivers.
@superbecx
@superbecx 2 жыл бұрын
Tested the i4 edrive40 a few weeks ago. I have a VW id3 for over a year and i hate it. The i4 is amazing !!!! This is the only ev i would consider . Beside weight evrything is just perfect , drives like a bmw brakes like one interior is just right , doesnt enoy you with stupid warnings and bugs like id3 just wow !!!
@hogfish3881
@hogfish3881 2 жыл бұрын
The lower the TSLA falls the angrier they get!
@ianthomas7863
@ianthomas7863 2 жыл бұрын
Love your work Jack!!!❤
@YT_0586
@YT_0586 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with Jack on this. My shortlist was Model Y, EV6 and the I4. Having test driven them all, I’m pulling the trigger on an I4 M Sport (with some extras). It’s the most expensive, it’s not the fastest, but as a complete package it won me over following the test drive. The main point being each to their own based on budget, preferences and requirement.
@monsterous289
@monsterous289 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the software and charging infrastructure are good enough
@Samuel-ym7ls
@Samuel-ym7ls 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a touch screen, why do you need an Idrive knob?
@idrisb07
@idrisb07 2 жыл бұрын
Just added this i4 to my very, very short list of dream EVs which hitherto only comprised the polestar 2. I don’t like Teslas sorry.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
You've just said a blasphemous sentence, you'd better be prepare for all the tesla fanboys getting angry at you and disliking your comment
@JackScarlett1
@JackScarlett1 2 жыл бұрын
My wishlist is the same as yours. And just between us mates, I've got one of them on order 👀
@idrisb07
@idrisb07 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackScarlett1 Good for you! And we both know which one of the two it is 😉
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 2 жыл бұрын
The hyundai looks cool as well. Don't know how it drives yet but i would at least test drive it before making a decision.
@matthewseymour8972
@matthewseymour8972 2 жыл бұрын
Cracking vid.... really beautifully shot and edited... Car's not bad either. This has got to be on every company car wish list hasn't it? Classic BMW looks (even with the beaver teeth). It's just so... accessible isn't it.
@michaelmathers6361
@michaelmathers6361 2 жыл бұрын
is it better to have a hybrid , just in case you dont have a chance to charge it?
@tubularG
@tubularG 2 жыл бұрын
That really depends on what part of which country you live in. For a lot of people though, having a hybrid just means having more complicated tech in the car to maintain and extra weight the car has to carry around. Can you charge your car at home? At work? Are you willing to deviate from your longer journey route to find a place to recharge?
@wte100
@wte100 2 жыл бұрын
Power build up steadly means lag?
@meljoe
@meljoe 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a custom number plate YG7I SXY ??
@davesax11
@davesax11 2 жыл бұрын
Don't care about the extra acceleration, but for wet or snow conditions AWD (or FWD) is necessary. Don't need oversize wheels either. Make the 18" wheels available again in the US. And don't insist on larger rears. Otherwise, the big grill is distinctive. Great vehicle. Now lets see how she performs in the real world.... Nice review.
@markharvey6172
@markharvey6172 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure PSA we’re putting washer jets on wipers many years ago……..
@SardiPax
@SardiPax 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a functionally nice car, shame it's so desperately ugly, including the 80s Hi-Fi styling of the inside. Oh well.
@Crychavoc
@Crychavoc 2 жыл бұрын
Jack, you are a brilliant presentator.
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see Jack driving around my old stamping ground...Uffington (White Horse Hill), round the back of Membury services, Lambourn..the back roads from Swindon to Newbury....As for the car, will BMW be able to supply the inevitable demand?
@OnlineMD
@OnlineMD 2 жыл бұрын
I test drove a BMW iX the other day (i4 models are yet to come). The giant cockroach-head grille in the front is so weird. The drive was very smooth, quiet. Good acceleration but not as peppy as a Tesla but that is OK: our Tesla Model 3 rides pretty rough; you can feel every bump and rut in the road. The main thing that upset me about the iX was that the Cruise Control seemed completely oblivious of the car in front, and kept racing towards stationary front cars. A $92,000 car does not have effective Auto-Cruise control????? Uhhh. The salesman had no earthly idea about the cruise control. So that was that. I said thank you and left.
@sasoperme
@sasoperme 2 жыл бұрын
This is not Tesla killer. It absolutely murders it.
@Roberto_79
@Roberto_79 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 20-year-old Renault Avantime and the Jets are mounted on the wiper blades. It’s not a new thing🙄
@MrFatknacker
@MrFatknacker 2 жыл бұрын
I struggle with the i4 - after all these years of design ideas we end up with a 4-Series coupe with an engine swap … reminds me of my O-Level metal work project when having put off doing anything for nearly a year, I had to come up with something quick and simple at the last minute… 🤔
@Samuel-ym7ls
@Samuel-ym7ls 2 жыл бұрын
Legacy Auto AD dollars make great production source. It is a commercial paid by the auto maker.
@MartinzW
@MartinzW 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't get the impression BMW is bringing anything new or interesting with this car. Why would I choose this over a Polestar 2, Ioniq5 or Tesla? It's uninspiring.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
Its the big kidney in front. I guess.
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 2 жыл бұрын
The final choice might come from what it can carry, what it can tow and the amount of people / luggage fits in it. Sadly Tesla Model 3 with its 400kg carrying capacity renders it somewhat useless....
@TheRealFallenAngel
@TheRealFallenAngel 2 жыл бұрын
I for one am glad there is finally an EV that doesn't try to bring anything new or interesting. I was waiting for an EV that looks like a "normal" car (kidney aside).
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 2 жыл бұрын
I think thats kinda the point. This car is to get ice bmw drivers to move over to ev's as smoothly as possible. The more its like the regular 4 rhe better.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Yes, for fervent BMW admirers thats of course the case. And yes its good for them and good for us.
@raymondpritchard
@raymondpritchard 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Jack - I’ve watched it twice! 😁
@scotteladd2537
@scotteladd2537 2 жыл бұрын
You had me for a minute, Jack. They just can’t be bothered, can they, to make a proper electric car. Sad.
@موسى_7
@موسى_7 2 жыл бұрын
They were originally an engine company, not a car company. They made aircraft engines and they make motorcycle engines. Honda is the same, and they also failed at electrification.
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 2 жыл бұрын
@@موسى_7 err, REALITY CHECK!!! NOBODY has failed - yet - at electrification! You wide-eyed idealists need to get real ..... !
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