Tie Dye Designs: Bleach Vs. Out White Brite [Reverse Dyeing]

I've been asked many times what the difference is between using bleach and Out White Brite to reverse dye. So, I thought I would make this video to discuss both methods and show the process and results from each method. There are many ways use can use each product - I am just showing you one of the ways that I use.
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[@Turandot29]

You are an EXCELLENT teacher and communicator. I always learn from you. As an aside, I am not crazy about the "orange" color left by the bleach process. To me it's more like a dull, muddy brown.

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you so much! I prefer to use Out White Brite myself. I think it is easier to dye over the lighter color, and I like that it doesn't damage the fabric or need to be neutralized. 😀

[@melstar83]

Wow, what a difference, didn’t expect such a huge difference. Thanks for sharing.

[@FunEndeavors]

Thanks for watching!

[@zalialyon1853]

I have been wondering what one was better white out really kills it..perfect timing..thanks for sharing

[@FunEndeavors]

Awesome - I'm glad it helped!

[@SpaceCaptainCreations]

Thank you! Still waiting to try my Out! Definitely see the difference as far as opening up possibilities for more color. ✌🏻❤️

[@FunEndeavors]

I think you will love Out White Brite for reverse dyeing. It removes a lot of color and works really fast.

[@SeasonOfWhatNow]

So nice to see a comparison between the two side by side. I'll be getting some OWB to use for reversals ASAP!

[@FunEndeavors]

I'm glad you liked it.

[@boa9535]

Gosh, that was a very careful presentation. Thank you for your efforts.

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you!

[@Uniquelyyours1]

I must try the owb as it sounds so much easier to use and I don't have to worry about holes in my projects. Your presentation was very thorough and easy to follow. Thanks for sharing, Angie:)

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you - I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@GOYOSGardenTiedyes]

Good morning Angie it was really nice to see your video this morning it was a long night around here we have some fires up in the hills again lots of wind but it looks like they have it under control but I do want to say I do mostly bleaching I haven’t tried the out white bright yet but I will.You explained it very well, i’m actually bleach dying a couple of shirts today that I’ve been wanting to do for awhile have a wonderful day thanks for sharing✌️

[@FunEndeavors]

Good morning! I'm so glad that you are safe - those fires can move really quickly. I think bleach is still one of the most versatile color removers. I've been bleaching some long sleeve colored shirts and then leaving them the bleached color without adding dye on the shirt. I love some of the colors that are formed from bleach. Out White Brite is my go to color remover though if I want to dye the shirt afterwards. The first time I used it I was amazed at how quickly it worked, how light it got the shirt, and that it didn't damage the fabric. I'm excited to see what you think about it when you try it. Have a great day, enjoy your bleach dyeing and stay safe! 🙂

[@louiszalvino413]

Thank you for that I just picked up some owb and was unsure how to use it. I always learn so much from these videos thank you❤

[@FunEndeavors]

You are so welcome! I'm glad it was helpful to you. 😀

[@alan_whoneedstiedye]

Great tips. Thanks for sharing. I've tried bleach. I have OWB and will be trying it next.

[@FunEndeavors]

Thanks! OWB is a great product for reverse dyeing or discharge dyeing.

[@sandraimel9192]

Thank you so much for putting to rest the which I one is better..so glad I found this video. So now off to the store to get the Bright White. Thanks again, This is Me, Sandra Dee

[@FunEndeavors]

Awesome - I'm glad you liked it! I love how quickly Out White Brite works, and with no fabric damage.

[@bizjet]

Angie, Thank you for demonstrating the contrasts between product choices. I’ve used Out White Brite just once before, and now can’t remember if it’s best to let the garment dry tying and applying the OWB. I think I did previously, but now I’m not sure that was necessary.

[@FunEndeavors]

I think it kind of depends on the design. I like to use OWB on thick folds like geodes after they have dried out a little bit. I want to make sure it soaks all the way into the middle of the fold.

[@baitymoses]

Waw it so amazing I feel like painting all of my t shirts in the shop 😴

[@lazonfutura2872]

I have got to figure out how to safely use OWB. Thanks for the comparison. Very enlightening (pun not intended).

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you!

[@iknowheis]

I really like the OWB shirt! I hope I can do the same now that my OWB has been delivered. Recently did a couple with Bleach. One I have died over and it came out well because he wanted Black and Orange. I am going to try other colors on the second one. We will see how it does.

[@FunEndeavors]

Awesome - I think you are going really like the way OWB removes the color from shirts.

[@shivanipde]

Excellent Excellent

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you so much 😀

[@ninagoldiloks]

Thx. Outwte is fire. Luvin it🖤🤎🤍

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you! 🙂

[@tomkelly1017]

Thanks good job

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you, I'm glad you liked it! 🙂

[@RoeRoe123]

Beautiful shirts ♥️ I think I like the rich tones of the bleached one best. I'm trying to get up the nerve to try my first today and I'm overthinking it 😁 I don't have any peroxide so I need something to stop the bleaching action. I'm going to Google and see of there's any household stuff I can use in place. Thanks!

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you! I really love the orange and black combination on the bleached shirt too. Have fun with it!

[@cosmicdreamer1387]

I’ve heard all fabric bleach is actually hydrogen peroxide and it works

[@jessicas.4898]

Definitely helps me. I tried to reverse dye several different times with bleach and still a bit of the 'orange' color remained. Hopefully now my future projects won't be flops.

[@FunEndeavors]

That's great - I'm glad you enjoyed the video! 🙂

[@wandarodriguez8467]

Good Day LOVE IT🙏😍

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you! 🙂

[@juliamarquis8200]

Thanks for this video Angie! I’ve learned so much about tie dyeing from you, appreciate your vids:) wondering why owb is less damaging to fabric than bleach? Also if anyones from Canada and can’t find out white brite, I use Iron Out because it has almost the same ingredients!

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you - I'm glad you like it! The chemical composition of Out White Brite is different. It does contain sodium hydrosulfite which is a reducing agent and can be used to remove color, but it isn't as aggressive as bleach.

[@angelk2551]

Canadian Tire has them for around $10. Just got them yesterday and today.

[@sues6228]

As always, your videos are soo excellent! I wonder if OWB can be used to remove color on polyester shirts?

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you so much! No, I have used it on several polyester lined hoodies and it didn't remove the color from the polyester portion.

[@moleson233]

Thanks so much for making this video! If you are going to dye it now, would you go through the same process and begin with a soda ash soak?

[@FunEndeavors]

Yes, if I was using Out White Brite I would leave it tied and wash it in the washing machine with a little Dharma's Professional Textile Detergent. Then I would do a soda ash solution soak and dye it.

[@ms.k4485]

Thank you for this! If you have time- It looks like you used a lot of the Out White Bright for one shirt. If I were going to do a grade level load (like 100!) with dark gray shirts, any ideas on how much I would I need to use to get close to the level of contrast you got here?

[@FunEndeavors]

I'm glad you enjoyed it! If you are making 100 shirts, I would do them in batches. I've never made that many at a time, so I have no clue how much it would take for sure. If I were making them, I would do 10 shirts at a time and plan on about 5 bottles of Out White Brite for all the shirts. After you do one batch, you'll get a better feel for how much Out White Brite you like to use.

[@pamwaldron3504]

If those are 100% cotton, then Jacqard Procion dyes could possibly over dye the orange on the bleached shirt. I've seen some amazing coverage from those dyes. Bonus, they only dye cottons. Nothing else is affected by Procion.

[@FunEndeavors]

Yes, those dyes will work great! Those are the type of dyes that I use.

[@_C_R_J]

Great video! I was wondering what kind of respirator you use while working with the White Brite and also while working with the powdered dyes.

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you! I have several respirators that I wear. I use a P100 when I handle dye. However, I recently purchased another P100 mask that is supposed to help with dust and fumes and that is the one I've been wearing when I reverse dye. So far it seems to work really well. Here is a link to that one: amzn.to/3ApjGEm

[@_C_R_J]

@@FunEndeavors Thanks so much for the info.

[@FunEndeavors]

@@_C_R_J You're welcome!

[@charvetjoshua9338]

Well, I figured out how you folded the shirt for the mandala print. By the way, you did an AWESOME job and yes, I’m trying to get my t-shirt to look as fantastic as yours. I tried it 5 times but the pattern isn’t coming out right. It’s showing at the bottom of the t-shirt but it’s not flowing all the way to the top. It disappears in the middle of the shirt. I don’t know if I’m using too much OWB or if I’m not pulling the wax thread tight enough. I can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong. Any suggestions?

[@FunEndeavors]

If you are losing the black line pattern, you are probably not pulling the sinew tight enough. I think it is easier to get a tight sinew line using some kind of sinew puller. It doesn't have to be fancy, anything that you can grip tightly that won't break will work. I have a couple that I use. One of mine is wooden, and the other one is 3D printed. The printed one came from "Boredom With Jenn" on Etsy. I've heard of people using tart tampers and even dog toys though. If the line is tight enough, the OWB won't get underneath it and remove the color there. Mandala folds are really thick and it takes a lot of pulling to get the sinew super tight.

[@mydadwasright3605]

Hi. Great video, does anybody have any suggestions for an alternative to out white brite or iron out for here in the UK? The delivery costs on are astronomical!

[@FunEndeavors]

Do you have Rit Color Removal available in your area? It is a great alternative to Out White Brite. That's what I used to use.

[@lanniard]

hi there great video! I was hoping to use white brite and white out the center of a black shirt, but essentially leave the outer edges black. Ultimately Im looking for a rectangle ish shape of white in the center of a black shirt that I will be able to block print black ink onto that white brite rectangle. Any tips on folding/tying up shirt to achieve this? Thanks!

[@FunEndeavors]

That one is going to be tough using Out White Brite. Out White Brite won't get a black shirt white, it normally goes to a taupe color. It also works so quickly that it will be a challenge to not remove too much color. It truly can remove the color in a matter of seconds. For a specific shape on a shirt, you might check out a product called "Jacquard's deColourant." You can paint this product onto the shirt in any shape that you would like. Then to remove the color, you use a steam iron to iron over it. It is super stinky to use (it smells like sulphur or rotten eggs), but you can paint or stencil with it and remove color in small areas. Here's a link to it: amzn.to/33ILgxv I made several shirts using it a few years ago. Here's a link to one of the videos so that you can see how it works. I used it outside and wore my respirator the entire time. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6uzZ419gdh4m7s I see people on social media put bleach into a spray bottle and spray shirts to make areas without color on shirts to put designs in as well. They leave the shirts outside in the sun to lighten them, and I am amazed how they get the area so light without causing damage to the shirt. The unpleasant part about bleach is that the holes don't always show up in the garment immediately. Bleach weakens the fabric fibers and the holes usually show up after a few washings. I always neutralize the bleach when I use it, but neutralizing won't undo the damage that may have already been caused by the bleach. Another option is that you could always start with a white shirt and add the black dye around your printing. That would probably be the best if you really want a bright white printing area.

[@Lady-Lilith]

What is the wood dowel thing you use for your sinew? I was curious if it was a fancy spool you found or made, or something you repurposed. Bleaching definitely damages material a lot. My ex accidentally spilled bleach on our sheets while carrying stuff to the laundry room at our apartment complex, and within weeks there were holes in the sheets :( So sad.

[@FunEndeavors]

It is a sinew puller that I bought from Nikolay Savin. If you are interested in purchasing one, he can be contacted through his facebook page: facebook.com/nstiedye/ You're right - I've ruined several shirts by bleaching them.

[@charvetjoshua9338]

Do you have a video showing how you folded the t-shirt with the mandala print?

[@FunEndeavors]

I don't think I have a video showing that particular fold. I'll add it to my list though to make one.

[@cathygreathouse2469]

Can you use the out bright on jus certain spots of the shirt ? Once it’s tied up ?? Thank you

[@FunEndeavors]

I haven't figured out a way to do that yet. Since the water needs to be boiling hot, it isn't quite as easy to put in just small places like bleach.

[@FujitheChef]

Have you tried doing a gravity shirt using bleach or out white? Like I wonder if ice could be used to dilute or slow the process? Or pre wetting certain sections of the shirt for the chemicals to flow down…? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤔

[@FunEndeavors]

No, I haven't tried that.

[@llaw1414]

Thank you! Great instructional video. Have you ever had a problem with the OWB not removing the color? I have a 100% cotton, black dress. I used OWB on it twice. It starts to lighten the fabric to a brown but when I rinse it, it turns a dingy black again. It’s very bizarre. My black T-shirts lighten up immediately. Any advice?

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you! I personally haven't had that issue, but I know others who have had. I think it has something to do with the way the shirt was dyed the first time, and what type of dye was used. It's a bummer when you want to reverse dye that item, but if you wanted to wear it as is - that would be great because it probably wouldn't fade a lot. It can sometimes be due to coatings on the fabric too. However since you used OWB on the dress twice, any coating would have been gone after the first time. You're right though - it is bizarre!

[@elainekean6296]

I have been trying to use OWB a black shirt dress cotton, it will not work, bleach won’t work either. I’m doing something wrong.

[@kwyjibo2112]

That helps a lot. 2 questions about the neutralization. I've used bleach and when I neutralized it, it bubbled like mentos in diet coke. How come yours didn't? Say I'm doing 10 shirts, can I use the tub of hydrogen peroxide for all 10 or should I use a fresh batch for each one? Does the process effect the hydrogen peroxide? Thanks for your help.

[@FunEndeavors]

The bubbling happens when the bleach meets the hydrogen peroxide. Your hydrogen peroxide solution was probably a bit more concentrated than mine. Either that or I rinsed out a bit more of the bleach from my shirt before putting it in the neutralizing solution. You can neutralize more than 1 shirt at a time - just make sure you have plenty of hydrogen peroxide solution so that all the shirts get well saturated with it. If you are going to neutralize them one at a time and not all at once - I would just make a new batch each time. If you only make up enough hydrogen peroxide solution for one shirt and then use it over and over - it won't still be as effective after a couple of shirts.

[@popozitoira]

did you ever try to mix both method/technique ? (ofc rinsing between bleach and owb)

[@FunEndeavors]

No, I haven't ever used both together.

[@jalenerode9091]

I have been using bleach in a spay bottle to get a image on a shirt with using a stencil. Can I was OWB for this technique as well?

[@FunEndeavors]

I haven't ever used OWB that way. I'm not sure if that would work or not. I've only submerged my shirts to remove the color.

[@ctonramk]

Question on Out White Bright - I spray bleach onto Stencils on black shirts......can this be mixed and used in a squirt bottle ??? Super cool !!!!

[@FunEndeavors]

I haven't ever tried that. It needs to be mixed with boiling hot water to work the most effectively.

[@Matty06001]

I use freezer paper stencils with bleach, and they work really well. This is the challenge I’m having too, to get more precise shapes. I’m going to try making the owb into sort of a paste and spread it on a stencil on just a piece of fabric and see how that works. Then maybe use a warm iron and silicone iron sheet on top to give it the heat. I really want this to work!

[@ShaunTroy]

Love the out white shirt Would anyone know Australia's equivalent as to get this imported is a bit hefty

[@FunEndeavors]

Thank you! I don't know if you have Rit Color Remover available there. It is similar to Out White Brite - it takes a bit longer to remove the color though.

[@ShaunTroy]

@@FunEndeavors we do have rit, how ever white bright looks to have better results.

[@FunEndeavors]

​@@ShaunTroy It definitely works faster than the Rit Color Remover. I think you can probably get the same lightness in the shirt with Rit Color Remover and boiling hot water, but it will take a little bit longer.

[@charvetjoshua9338]

So my shirts should be somewhat damp before adding the OBW?

[@FunEndeavors]

They don't have to be. They can be totally dry. I think it is easier to tie them and get the sinew tight when they are damp though.

[@tyjames1772]

hey angie, so im trying to strip the color out of blue jeans, i tried using OWB and the color came out at first then the color came back completely. any tips ?

[@FunEndeavors]

Yikes - blue is a tough one. I've had that happen before too with blue shirts. I prefer not to use bleach since it can damage the fabric, but that may be a better option on the jeans. If you don't want to try bleach, Dharma has several color removers available on their website. I have used the deColourant paste before, but I haven't tried any of the others. Here is a link to Dharma's color remover page: www.dharmatrading.com/chemicals/color-removers-discharge-paste.html

[@ladyb7440]

Does it matter the fabric type? For the OWB ?

[@FunEndeavors]

I have mainly tried it on 100% cotton items. I have used it on the Buffalo hoodies though that are viscose and cotton with polyester on the inside. The inside doesn't normally lighten, so I don't think it works well on polyester. The main thing that I've found is that it doesn't always work on blue items. There is something about the color blue that doesn't work very well with color removers. The color will lighten, but most of the time it won't be totally removed. With the exception of navy - I've had good success with navy. Color removers work with some other blues too, but for the most part I go in expecting the blue to not be totally removed.

[@janettegonzalez984]

I will like to have the spray look but if I use the out white brite powder I have to combine it with hot water in a glass spray bottle? Will that work? Thank you 😊

[@FunEndeavors]

I'm not sure. The water has to be really hot for it to work properly.

[@janettegonzalez984]

@@FunEndeavors thank you for letting me know

[@panda5122]

@8:29 Do you rinse the bleach with hot or cold water?

[@FunEndeavors]

I don't think it makes a difference. You can use either one. 😀

[@sunderdaswani7388]

Can you re-use the neutralizer again? And what’s the shelf life?

[@FunEndeavors]

I wouldn't use the neutralizing solution again. The bleach neutralizes the hydrogen peroxide solution too.

[@BlueLantern503]

Hey, I was wondering, I've never worked with Out White Brite before is it safe to use on polyester? I want to reverse tie dye something that 65% polyester and bleach will damage the fabric.

[@FunEndeavors]

I'm not sure how well it works on polyester. Most of the time polyester doesn't discharge the dye. It won't damage the fabric though.

[@BlueLantern503]

@@FunEndeavors ok that's thank you. As long as it not going to harm the fabric is worth a try.

[@FunEndeavors]

@@BlueLantern503 Yes, that's one of the things I love about Out White Brite.

[@Elie0813]

does the smell of the chemical remains? is it easy to remove after one wash?

[@FunEndeavors]

Since I wash my shirts right after using Out White Brite, I don't have a problem with the smell remaining a long time. Usually by the time the shirt has been washed after the dyeing process, the smell is very faint.

[@jamesding6419]

What rope did you use to tie it?🙏 thanks

[@FunEndeavors]

I used artificial sinew, and it is wax coated. Here is a link to what I use: amzn.to/2EF28Lu

[@jamesding6419]

@@FunEndeavors thank u so much❤️❤️❤️

[@craigstevens3619]

With the bleach try using hot tap water

[@NeumanFam]

Are these 100% cotton or a blend?

[@FunEndeavors]

They are 100% cotton.

[@laurabond5809]

I tried a 50/50 cotton/polyester black sweater and I don’t think it did much of anything. I have no idea how you get so much black out of those black Buffalo sweaters

[@FunEndeavors]

Unfortunately, polyester doesn't work well with color removers. The Buffalo hoodies are mainly viscose and cotton though which does work. I think most of the polyester on the Buffalo hoodies is on the inside in the fuzzy part.

[@ziggybond007]

@@FunEndeavors Ah, that makes a lot of sense... I'll have to try something else. It did come out grey-ish but it looks like I lost a fight with a Sharpie because I left it in for over 24 hours...

[@cathyursulacomrack5653]

this is not remotely how i do it and my results are very different which i am very happy with . thanks for your version

[@FunEndeavors]

There are a lot of different ways to use these products - I'm happy you found one that works well for you.

[@bggines_1260]

Say again please the purpose of hydrogen peroxide, mam?

[@FunEndeavors]

It is to neutralize the bleach. Bleach will continue to damage the fabric and you may end up with holes in the fabric unless you neutralize it with a hydrogen peroxide solution of 1 part hydrogen peroxide to 9 parts water.

[@bggines_1260]

@@FunEndeavors thank you very much!

[@FunEndeavors]

@@bggines_1260 You're welcome! 🙂