My Nitpicks About Super Smash Bros Ultimate #2!

[@Odyssey_Central]

I’m sorry guys I couldn’t hold it in anymore there’s a fnaf jumpscare again

[@Wyatt516]

i just saw it

[@tantamsooksuptavon]

can you do cuphead spirits?

[@-Hamza]

You _should_ do them to spite the people who don't like them

[@bumblebee8903]

Time stamp? Never mind, I heard you say Freddy Fazbear and immediately looked away lmao

[@HarryBoSweets]

😱

[@Trashley652]

Imagine if they still had "The winner is..." and then with sephiroth, the announcer didn't say his name, it was just the choir from the victory fanfare

[@vuanpi1378]

ive been imagining that since his release

[@decidueyesrandm5526]

Or make his voice weaker like sephiroroth killed him and it's dying breath

[@tibby4503]

@@decidueyesrandm5526 no

[@decidueyesrandm5526]

@@tibby4503 why

[@tibby4503]

@@decidueyesrandm5526 because that would be stupid

[@Wyrmington]

Tuxedo Steve is the Fire Mario and Black Yoshi of the DLC

[@IcyDiamond]

I think Prison Steve would’ve been a good alt

[@DaSheepKiller]

@@XorbityXorbGlowbe why not have both?

[@XorbityXorbGlowbe]

@@DaSheepKiller oh yeah, statement revoked

[@Sconey-dj6ju]

Accept black yoshi is the much worse of a crime

[@MrFlan1723]

@@Sconey-dj6ju No.

[@ultimax10doesgaming48]

I am interested to see what kinds of minecraft blocks you'd give every stage. One of my nitpicks is that some stages clearly should be using other materials such as gerudo valley using dirt when it should clearly be using sand, etc.

[@cameronviar1626]

That delivery of the “I don’t have to think” line was perfect

[@sooperdoopercooper5040]

Small nitpick: Corneria gets smaller every game, making it worse as each games comes out.

[@fyra_cat2119]

in 10 years it's gonna be one tiny platform that is damn near impossible to rly fight on

[@ShadowSorel]

@@fyra_cat2119 AND it’ll be tournament legal

[@Marnie_C]

Regarding spirits not having descriptions, I think that might have been one of the reasons for scrapping trophies. Trophy descriptions have to be translated into every language so it adds a lot of development time. Keeping spirits textless helps lower development cost. Personally, I would really like to see them have text but I understand that would be a huge development endeavor

[@IcyDiamond]

They could’ve saved time by using some of the descriptions from Smash 4

[@Marnie_C]

@@IcyDiamond they could have but people would have noticed and it wouldn't have helped ultimates image of not being a switch port of smash for the wiiu

[@Off-colorsign]

honestly i loved just going through all my trophies and reading about why mario has a hat that is blue when he eats a meatball

[@Billyman8]

Sakurai: Smash is a frantic game and we didnt want peaceful music from Minecraft. Meanwhile: Gamer and Electroplankton

[@littlebigbat37]

Environmental Noises is by far the worst offender of this. Like... why is it even here?

[@teyia6190]

@@littlebigbat37 it is the best song in the game and you can't convince me else🗿

[@littlebigbat37]

@@teyia6190 You know what? True. There's gotta be a reason why I have a playlist that is just Environmental Noises 100 times.

[@DRMAX102]

Animal crossing music

[@randocalzone8772]

@@teyia6190 25m is better 😎

[@IcyDiamond]

It would’ve been really cool if Zombie and Enderman had their sounds from Minecraft, but I’m guessing they didn’t do that because Zombie and Enderman might have been last minute additions judging by the fact they have spirit battles

[@hyperfairy7779]

That would probably also get annoying if they made that sound every time they were hit.

[@IcyDiamond]

@@hyperfairy7779 Maybe not every time they’re hit but once in a while would be nice

[@WigglerM2]

I know right

[@SaddieMoon]

The thing is, it’s not them or an accurate versions of the mobs. And the spirit battle is supposed to be more accurate.

[@Off-colorsign]

I feel like the fact that they have spirits though is fine, cause uh.. theres like 4000 of them..

[@OrangeJuiceEnjoyer0]

I can just imagine Ryu playing Smash Bros looking at the spirit list throwing his fist I'm the air and screaming "DAMN YOU EVIL RYUUUUU"

[@OrangeJuiceEnjoyer0]

In not I'm. DAMN YOU AUTO CORRECT

[@nikolaivladski9905]

He'd blame the Satsui no Hado For context: Evil Ryu in his home game is just regular Ryu but some dark energy overtake his body that made him as deadly, sometimes even deadlier, than Akuma, and his story is about overcoming that energy and finding peace. So yeah, Evil Ryu interrupting the symmetrical harmony of the Spirit List is definitely in character.

[@IcyDiamond]

@@nikolaivladski9905 Well isn’t that just neat.

[@zachaboss]

15:23 What bothers me the most about this is that this voiceline was kept unchanged in some languages. For example, the French announcer still says "C'est une victoire pour..." (roughly translating to "that's a win for...") like in Sm4sh.

[@MishKoz]

Ages ago, I remember hearing a pretty solid theory as to why stages like Poke Floats or Rumble Falls didn't reappear in Ultimate, and that's because of stage morph. Basically any autoscrolling stage where the camera mainly moves upwards wouldn't have worked with stage morph, since when it comes time for the stage to change, the stage replacing the one you're on comes up from the bottom of the screen, and the old stage falls down below the screen. So with a big vertical stage, I guess having it "fall" wouldn't really work? In the same vein as things I heard early in Ultimate's lifespan: no trophy descriptions for spirits. The reason being, having 1500+ entries to write and then translate into 11 different languages would take a looooooooot of time lol

[@Fuges]

One nitpick I have is that the Mute City stage from 3DS is called "Mute City SNES" even though it's the only Mute city in the game. I feel like if a stage is the only version of that location then there's no reason to give it some sort of special label like that. (Hell before the game came out the fact it was called Mute City SNES made me think they were also bringing back Mute City from Melee)

[@Liggliluff]

(10:20) I agree on the controls: - Don't have Shield+Attack be Grab, have grab as a separate input. Then have an option on other settings be "Shield+Attack = Grab, Off/On". - In addition to Attack as an input, have Smash and Tilt be optional inputs instead. So you can change Attack to Tilt if you want. Another way is to have Smash, Tilt, Special, Jump be the four face buttons. - Allow us to set buffer amount. Higher buffer means easier to make the next input be ready, but higher risk of accidental inputs. Lower buffer means you need to be more accurate when you input the next thing, but less risk of accidental inputs. Personally I'd like to lower it, but not completely removing it.

[@martigomezcastella9461]

15:25 fun fact. In the spanish version the announcer does say "and the winnner is..."

[@Mudkip971]

One nitpick is how little attention and change Pichu got. Like ever since his appearance in Melee he actually had two major appearances in Pokémon franchise. Those being the Spiky-Eared Pichu even from HGSS and Ukulele Pichu from Pokémon Ranger. They should have gave his Ukulele as his new Neutral Special which launches electrical notes like it does in Pokémon Ranger. Plus unlike some other spin offs, the Ranger franchise fully belongs to Nintendo and the Pokémon company so there would be no legal issues.

[@usermcskull4713]

Ukelele Pichu would be a great final Smash imo, especially since Ranger has basically no representation otherwise

[@Mudkip971]

@@usermcskull4713 Well I still think retaining Volt Tackle would be nice since it's a signature move for the evolutionarily line. Meanwhile Thunder Jolt is not something Pichu actually uses since in its name it's inspire by an attack from a Pikachu TCG card. Plus by making it its neutral it alone would distinguish itself from Pikachu.

[@goldshell9992]

Still surprised me theres's no boss rush in this game.

[@GrubbusHubbus]

For me personally, I think the Tennis Alts should have been the Developer skins. I always loved those Alts and whenever I can, I always play as Developer Alex. It's a shame the Character Creator on PS4 doesn't have it as its own shirt, because I'd love to make custom Dev skins.

[@davisvoelzke8011]

Tennis Steve is the best steve

[@GrubbusHubbus]

Okay, fair, but... Developer Steve.

[@Off-colorsign]

we also need a notch skin like what the heck

[@algotkristoffersson15]

@@Off-colorsign why can’t we just have the same skin system as on Java edition

[@Josue_S_6411]

Tuxedo Steve and Developer Alex.

[@toad.8556]

one that i find annoying is that you cant turn smash attacks off with side+a, so that it only does tilts or vise versa, so that it only does smash attacks and you can do tilts with the r stick. i always end up Messing it up and its hard to do tilts. i wrote this comment before i finished the video.

[@ayskaripepperooni2770]

That's why i set tilts on to right stick.

[@toad.8556]

@@ayskaripepperooni2770 if i do that then the side+a still does tilts and not only smash attacks and it gets annoying

[@Liggliluff]

@@toad.8556 Smashes are easier to do than tilts, plus if you're good with attack+special, you can guarantee both smashes and tilts. You should probably place attack on Y, so you do smashes by pressing Y+B, tilts with the right stick, then I guess jump with A.

[@Liggliluff]

But I agree with you. The input "attack" should also come with the two inputs "tilt" and "smash", so attack works as normal, but tilt only does tilts, and smash only does smashes. I like how Smash Bros does direction + button, but it really needs to have two attack buttons and a special. Sometimes I feel like it needs two specials as well, because there's even more weird stuff characters should be able to do. Image Captain Falcon having the four Falcon moves on special 1, but the laser gun and three other stranger moves on special 2.

[@toad.8556]

@@Liggliluff ill definitely try this! thanks!!

[@theaestheticskyline328]

One of my nitpicks with the DLC specifically is just how many of them have a trap -> cutscene final smash. I don't mind them dropping transformation FS's but can't they get just a little more creative with most of these?

[@IcyDiamond]

Thank you! This bugged me as well!

[@theaestheticskyline328]

@@IcyDiamond Good to know I'm not the only one. What really got me was during Sakurai's presentation of Sora, he didn't show any footage of his FS, but it turned out to just function the same way as Ridley, Joker, etc. It definitely wasn't worth holding for a surprise in my opinion.

[@mercurysnake274]

Some of the DLC characters could have had a sick transformation final smash, but if I had to guess, probably concerns about spoilers?

[@castform7]

I never wanna know anything about evil Ryu. I can only see him as this malevolent force doing extemely mild acts of "villainy" for no reason. This man is a mass litterer, I know it.

[@Huddleston07]

bEcAuSe EVIL

[@nikolaivladski9905]

Actually in the games, Evil Ryu is a force to be reckoned with. He's just regular Ryu but overwhelmed by dark evil energy, and the very thought of said energy is what gave Ryu fear and lack of peace. So yes, Evil Ryu ruining the harmomy of the Spirits List is absolutely in-character.

[@fabiosonhandogrande1697]

No need to worry about not knowing about 'em. The only extra detail would be that he's an _edgy_ mass litterer

[@ethantreadway9478]

7:49 The Pokémon renders for the spirits actually use the Dream World renders, which Red and Green don’t have. *But since later added Sword and Shield Spirits used the official renders, soooo-* 7:56 The Fire Emblem don’t use the Heroes renders in favor of their first renders. *But if they were going the Dream World Art for the Pokémon, than I would use the Heroes renders*

[@usermcskull4713]

In Kirby's Return to Dreamland, the Ultra Sword would always change form whenever you use it but in Smash it's always just the one design. Also I wish some final smashes changed the music while activated, like Kirby could have one of the Super Ability themes and Dedede could have Masked Dedede This was a thing in Brawl with Luigi, so I don't see why it hasn't really been in the series since that gamr

[@LocalMonarch]

First off; I’m curious what blocks every stage would have, so I hope to see that be a video someday Second; special KO sounds for more characters was DEFINITELY a missed opportunity, when Mario and Luigi lose in a stamina battle they could have their death animation from the games rather than just an explode, same with Sonic And lastly; I want a Kirby buff, that is all

[@Joshua-pc3iq]

Odyssey I've been realizing that you haven't praised or even talked about New Super Mario Bros Wii. I remember you used to say it was the best 2D Mario game. I also think it would be cool to see a Level By Level video putting all NSMBWii's Worlds onto the tier list.

[@tastefulword7301]

16:52 There is another stage where you can select a variation of it besides Minecraft World. This would be Boxing Ring. It doesn't change the layout, but it does change the emblem in the ring from the Smash Ball to the WVBA World Circuit logo. If I recall correctly, you just hold down L while selecting it.

[@Odyssey_Central]

I remember you could do something similar on the dreamland GB stage to make it black and white on the 3DS! Though I THINK it’s been cut which is unfortunate

[@tastefulword7301]

​@@Odyssey_Central Another cut one if I recall correctly was Mushroomy Kingdom. You definitely used to be able to play on a 1-2 variant, but I don't know if it was selectable.

[@PlayrR3D156]

Here's a few of mine: -Strongly agree with the boss rush thing -Shiek's f-smash should be the same as Greninja's. -Not enough characters have unique victory quotes. This is especially ironic for characters like Ryu and Ken because they have their own in their respective games (although, I could understand some of them since the roster is one of the biggest there is in fighting game history) -We don't need the announcer for Snake's victory screens. His win quotes are hard to hear as it is -We need another grass type Pokémon in the roster. It just feels incomplete given that Ivysaur is the only one -Special costumes for each character (although, again, the roster is already huge, so I could understand not making more) -Why the heck is Pac-Land in the game but not Pac-Maze? It just feels so dumb given how iconic, no, essential the stage is to Pac-Man's character -Link and Luigi should be able to wall jump -The E3 version of the main theme isn't in the game despite it arguably being the best version and there's 2 E3 versions of songs being in the game (the ones from Breath of the Wild and Sonic 06)

[@ShadowVaria]

Biggest Nitpicks- Samus still using Other M skin, despite Samus returns coming out between games and Other M being the most unpopular game in the series (and subjectively the worst samus design) Bowser's weird skin And a bit of a weird one, but something I would love namely with Pyra/Mythra and their stage of alrest would've been palutena's guidance-y character interactions- Xenoblade has amazing writing and often characters (sometimes notoriously, not forgetting someone) talking mid battle would make for a good means of doing that. Same for the Banjo stage, imagining if Gruntilda had a unique rhyme and insult for each fighter.

[@spongebobmusicuhg3420]

If Sakurai thought C418's Minecraft music was "too peaceful" have they even stopped to listen to the Pikmin songs???

[@nikolaivladski9905]

Speaking of Dragon Quest (I feel that this game hasn't gotten much love, and I thank Smash for ever introducing me to the grandfather if JRPGs), a nitpick I most definitely have is simple: the DQ music aren't the orchestrated versions. It had something to do with the late composer being very stingy with his music so I hope that in the next game we finally get the orchestral versions. Another small nitpick is that the DQ music are just the overworld and standard battle themes. It would be cool to have more music like boss themes and even town music. Also, DQ5 needs some love. It's arguably the best DQ game according to most fans and so far its only representation is DQ5 Hero in the Final Smash, and ig Sabercat being a Spirit.

[@Jujan04]

The reason any of C418's music didn't appear is likely due to either Microsoft or Nintendo themselves. Essentially, when Microsoft acquired Mojang, they tried to get the rights to C418's music and trademark it, but C418 wanted to keep the rights to his music copyright-free. They never came to an agreement, so they replaced C418 with other people to create the modern music and music discs we see today, such as pigstep, otherside, and relic. My best guess is that either Nintendo didn't want to use the copyright free music or that Microsoft didn't want to work with C418.

[@WeegeeMaro]

Why do so many characters keep losing great alts? Fire Mario, Black Yoshi, Tuxedo Steve, who's next?

[@algotkristoffersson15]

Yeah, characters don’t need to have exactly eight costumes, at lest yes science eight player smash exists. But not exactly if they ca think of ten twelve or even twenty alts for a character just give them that many, inkling shouldn’t have colors and genders chooses simultaneously, instead each player should choose a color (with no duplicates because that would not work with ink) and then separately choose gender, and Steve should have his existing alts but also let you save and load custom ones.

[@rheeeeeee2011]

Gold kazuya probably

[@billnye8760]

That “what stage gives what if every block is on the table” idea sounds fantastic

[@narxmagee727]

One of the things that slightly perturbs me to no end are Yoshi and Ice Climbers victory themes being cut. I do not understand this whatsoever. The themes sound so neutered now. I'll never understand why this happened. The only thing I can think of was making it so you didn't cut them off when trying to get back to fighting but who cares if a theme gets cut off.

[@thebananaspeedruns9275]

In Minecaft Blackstone and Deepslate are literally just alternatives to stone so there cobbled versions could replace cobblestone on some stages such as “Hellish” stages giving Blackstone instead of cobblestone

[@deadly-swordsman]

Also why didn't our boy Bowser not get any costumes like his tux, dark bowser (inside story), or meowser (3d world)

[@ejfiewfeuihefwiuwe]

The real reason is that Microsoft can't use C418's music as he still owns the copyright as for songs like pig step and otherside idk

[@kuks0453]

8:37 Lol cry about it Also, I love that you are back with your jumpscares ;)

[@supersem6635]

Fun fact: In the Dutch version (the version I play) the announcer still says the winner is (De winnaar is). I'm verry happy about that.

[@Firestar35YT]

I would definitely love to see a video on the potential blocks they could use for Steve in Smash! (Also hearing you say my username felt very surreal lmao)

[@guynamedjackson]

Never took you as a Desbug fan!! I have watched him since his beginning just like you!! Keep up the good content!!

[@mrdude5888]

I feel like you should do a hot takes on smash as that would be fun to discuss, however knowing the smash community it might be considered suicide

[@cezory]

well THIS aged well

[@frogman5534]

I love how odyssey Central who isn’t even a Roblox Channel still talks about the new Roblox death sound lol

[@tommaczar673]

One of my nitpicks comes from the Spirit Exchange. Sometimes certain spirits require you to have a core of another spirit to summon them. You can somewhat sort the list of summonable spirits based on how many spirits you have that are needed to some of them, but for some reason they have no option to toggle it to search for cores only, which is already retired spirits. And I usually don't retire my spirits unless I have a duplicate so I have to manually go through each single one that is possible to summon and see if any of them are possible to summon with just cores.

[@andreasobermuller3044]

17:50 he actually had the pac-man death sound in the 3DS version of smash 4

[@monmagog]

8:24 you are wrong just because Namco owns Kazuya doesn’t mean that they own all artwork of him. There is still licensing things that have to be worked out. This is a problem people often overlook with crossover games, like Smash and Multiversus

[@maurycewarner794]

Late to this, but to the person who said that they liked it better when the announcer said "The winner is..", I agree with them. It even sounds like for this game that "The winner is" was supposed to be first, just look at the Steve victory screen in this video, and tell me if I'm wrong. Picture it as "The winner is... Steve!" and hear Steve's name the way the announcer says it. I'm not wrong.

[@j-t-v-ideos6583]

1. It doesn’t have dry bones. 2. Dry bones hasn’t been confirmed if there is a new super smash bros. 3. Dry bones has no representation at all, besides a spirit battle. If piranha plant became a character, then so can dry bones.

[@IcyDiamond]

Dry Bones doesn’t have a spirit battle

[@Daedalus-Inc]

I have a Steve nitpick, that he should of had fireworks as a taunt, perhaps instead of the rapidly crouching one that can be done without the taunt. Another thing that could *maybe* be done, is to have a Steve skin slot link to your Minecraft account on the switch, which I don’t believe has custom skins like Java.

[@IcyDiamond]

Then you could finally play as Waluigi in Smash Bros.

[@LuigiMario-ny2gz]

Next game we MUST have Freddy Fazbear

[@wingedbluj1674]

From what I understand, Grab is never coded as it's own command, and it's actually a macro for Shield+Attack. Pressing the button is basically telling the game you're pressing 2 buttons at once.

[@khgaming_kai]

Big nitpick from me that's probably been brought up: too many cutscene final smashes. This was most apparent with sora as instead of say: a variant of trinity limit or a formchange/drive form, we just shove up to 3 characters in a door, and call it a day.

[@IcyDiamond]

Yeah they really got uncreative with the final smashes

[@aronjimenez9867]

15:43 Lego commercials be like

[@samboi123]

Given that the Cuphead, Rex and Tora battles change when you own their respective DLC, I think the Pyra, Mythra and Min Min spirit battles should have those characters used if you own the DLC.

[@bodie5383]

sonic deserves more than just one music remix

[@Adamski-]

Ok, I think we need a Odyssey central minecraft base tour!

[@erindesabla]

so one of my nitpicks is why are the control final smashes gone the cutscenes and flurry attacks just take away from the gameplay come on why can't we play a giga bowser or the yoshi dragon or the landmaster

[@Trashley652]

Another nitpick I have is that one winged angel should have been playable on Hollow Bastion, considering it not only appeared in kingdom hearts, but in Hollow Bastion itself

[@the_ark_king]

I think the reason why pokefloats was removed is because it would have been a pain to port and probably redo that many old textures Also I remember hearing something about the models for melee were ripped straight from the pokemon stadium games and that being a reason as to why it wasn't added, though I don't know if that's true or not

[@IcyDiamond]

Also what would you have done with the Omega and Battlefield version of the stage?

[@the_ark_king]

True

[@algotkristoffersson15]

And why can’t they just rip pokèfloats from melee directly and put it in ultimate?

[@algotkristoffersson15]

@@IcyDiamondjust use avalug, It’s already the right shape. and then the other floats can be seen in the background.

[@mariaandreinaaranareggeti9239]

I do not like how the Mario World Athletic theme is not a Mario song. Instead they made it a Yoshi song

[@Liggliluff]

(15:55) They still do the other way around in some other languages, and it was "X win" in Japanese since the first game I think. It's kinda weird that they changed it specifically for English.

[@algotkristoffersson15]

Why did they do it like that when it doesn’t match with the visuals.

[@MrPromethium0157]

Hitting someone when you have invincibility should immediately remove your invincibility frames.

[@aidanthegamer5]

7:58 No one's mentioned it yet, but those are from Wii Fit Trainer's in-game model. There isn't really art of the Wii Fit Trainer that isn't a silhouette, so that one's a bit more understandable.

[@jacobs5546]

I literally said the Smash attack one before. I can't tell you how many times I tried to use a Tilt but used a Smash.

[@Wienerdog5]

As this game is my actual favorite game of all time and i love it, i love this content too. This is one of your very finest series. What if you made a completely original alt idea for every character, just to follow up your best and worst alt videos.

[@MaximumMalo2319]

I loved the video but I’m sure, like me, other people were waiting for there comment to be mentioned. I’m not gonna let this get in the way of this awesome video, but I was waiting for Odyssey to say “MaximumMalo says: Rosalina is playable.” But I did love the video!!

[@stanzacosmi]

Quick correction, Dive into the heart DOES affect gameplay as it goes from stone to iron for steve's mining

[@IcyDiamond]

They really did have to build every new stage around Steve’s moveset

[@OrangeToadGamer]

15:24 *It's me!!!* *Also I'm glad you agreed with my comment* *I've seen people say that the Announcer saying the characters name first is for duo characters since saying "The Winner is Ice Climbers" would sound a bit weird, until you realize that they could just get the Announcer to record lines were he says "The Winners are" instead*💀

[@AshenDust_]

A nitpick I have is the names of the moves they gave to Mewtwo. Why aren’t Shadow Scratch, Confusion and Reflect called Shadow Claw, Confuse Ray and Light Screen/Mirror Coat? Those moves match up way better with what they do in the Pokémon games, and fit the animations as well.

[@h.hamis007]

17:54 Why you and Emperor Cubone have very similar voices :D?

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

The descriptions are actually about as costly to insert as the models, as the descriptions pile up a lot of time for each translated version of the game, english even, and with more text, there's way more room for error I'd have loved if the descriptions could have been added in, but it's fairly reasonable why they were omitted here (Smash 4 having two sets of trophy descriptions to translate must have traumatized Sora Ltd enough)

[@Xx_sussybaka_xX]

9:54 same i dunno if this is the same thing but now my grab buttons just shield and my regular attack button doesnt work until i restart my controller

[@White_Willow1123]

When you wake up to a discord announcement about odyssey posting a new video: WOOOOOO YAAA BABY THATS WHAT I BEEN WAITING FOR

[@alphie1765]

I would absolutely watch a video of you breaking down Minecraft blocks per stage.

[@sunnyraoul]

Steve's eyes should've been completely white when he obtains his final smash energy As a small reference to Herobrine

[@ianbell1992]

Mine is nabbit he is my favorite mario character but why is he confined to a single stage? And why is he not an assist trophy. You need stage hazards on, so most people dont even know he is in the game.

[@jaredhebert942]

Here are some nitpicks I humbly offer ahead of a Part 3: 1.] So many characters have had their costumes desaturated, cut or changed for no good reason at all; the Mario cast being prime cases for the disappointing trend: - Mario lost a ton of iconic & fun alternates from all the past games (blue-red/"retro" & brown-tan/Foreman Spike from 64, black-white & perfected Wario from Melee & Brawl, Fire Mario, his Waluigi & NES Open/True American alts from 4) and even his new models miss out on palettes for Wrecking Crew NES and Super Mario All-Stars, the list goes on - Luigi's faired _alright_, but Brawl took his NES/Fire Luigi palette down from an A+ to a B-, plus the yellow and blue-green costumes that were close to his duds in Hudson Soft's SMB1 PC port and Toei's "The Great Mission to Rescue Princess Peach" respectively got lost going from 4 to 5 - Bowser's costumes from Melee & Brawl just got cut from 4 outright and the replacements don't cut it 2.] Mega Man's deprivation of his personality for sake of matching his NES spritework was not worth it, a bunch of the Special Weapons here could be swapped out or just altered in function to better cover all his abilities across the Classic Series (1-10/11 & Bass, the Capcom Versus games, even more obscure spinoffs like Mega Man Soccer & Super Adventure Rockman) and it's even more aggravating because SSB4 Mega Man *was* ultimately the base for how he's portrayed in Mega Man 11 - which is a pity (no offense to Ben Diskin getting weak direction, he has the range to play young, he was _Cutemon in Digimon Fusion_ his range is that wide) and I think Mega Man deserves that kind of rework to fine-tune him for the wider future 3.] the Kongs & K. Rool are just SPOILED for better voicework (SNES, DK64, their VAs post 2004, and their actors from the DKC cartoon would be hailed and huzzah'd for their glorious returns); I mean, DK alone has options for Ken Bayliss, Takeshi Nagasako, Sterling Jarvis or Richard Yearwood for past VAs, all of whom are still alive & loved at time of writing - and we ALL know that getting the chance for Grant Kirkhope to reprise the role would make some *NOISE* 4.] 5.] 6.] 7.]

[@sandman9700]

Try 2 of asking this man to rank every stage in smash ultimate

[@crud5237]

Sakurai saying that Minecraft music is too chill is true, but he also put “Environmental Noises” in the game.

[@skullkid-kazooie8277]

I’m glad that other than weebs liking something, you have 0 problems with Pyra and Mythra, the best smash characters ^^

[@deadly-swordsman]

This is why I don't use the pro controller and use joycons also why is hollow Baston's station of the heart a hazard?! Also the mii had their own classic in 4 and cutting them in ult is dumb (thumbs up or heart if you agree)

[@9for1gaming6]

A hot takes thing would be amazing!

[@ninetheluk]

God I forgot to put it in the community post, but one nitpick I have is the fact that Kirby's inhale doesnt work correctly. In the Kirby series, Kirby gets the sword abillity when he inhales a sword enemy, not a hat based on the enemy

[@TheTeraFurret]

I think genuinely my biggest nitpick is that they didn’t add a shadow or metal sonic as skins for sonic, I know they’re different characters, but they did it with Pyra and Mythra, there’s no reason they shouldn’t be able to do it with sonic.

[@theletterF]

Your point about Evil Ryu is the truest thing ever.

[@mariaandreinaaranareggeti9239]

You could argue that Sora does not either because the artwork is similar to the renders

[@daps3400]

10:00 I agree with this if you use a normal character but... my main are the ice climbers and that the grab button is a macro instead of directly a grab creates a lot of cool desync, so for the next game they should have as an option to have a direct grab button and one that is a macro

[@algotkristoffersson15]

Honestly why is grab attack+shield in the first place

[@aneonfoxtribute]

Can I just say, thank you for making your Xenoblade dislike far more obviously a joke. As a large fan of Xenoblade, there was a period of time where I genuinely felt insulted because I didn't realize you were joking in your jabs at Xenoblade and I was getting to a point where I just wanted to stop watching. So thanks for making it more clear

[@kuks0453]

Yes, I love how now it's actually funny instead of "haha game I don't like is bad and everyone who likes it is stupid". Now the jokes are pretty ingenious and well thought, so it has become sort of a comic relief in between of segments of a video and I'm cool with that.

[@_shadow_8793]

I appreciate it aswell, Can't stand the people who genuinely take the piss out on us

[@an-animal-lover]

"I was kind of thinking of making a video where I talked about what blocks each stage could give Steve if any block in Minecraft was on the table" yes, please. That sounds like a very interesting topic

[@_dude208]

“So I Really Hope Tennis Steve Gets Murdered In The Next Smash Game”

[@demi-femme4821]

The fact that they used Evil Ryu's Ultra SFII art instead of his more unique design from SF IV makes me think this was 100% intentional.

[@AdarP5R]

2:37 scared the soul out of me

[@WigglerM2]

Same

[@somerandomdude2085]

I hate withered freddys jumpscare, it could have been good.

[@SolemnStormcloud]

For my biggest nitpick, the pop-up for remaining stocks in 1v1 matches is accompanied by what SmashWiki transcribes as a "foowish" sound effect. Thing is, this sound essentially replaces the _iconic_ (in my opinion) KO sound, and sounds _especially_ out of place after a star KO. I think this UI element should've just been silent.

[@dededejuega746]

Something I don't like is how the Doom Slayer didn't get any music, I love Sans and all but it feels wierd that just him and Cuphead got music. We could have gotten a E1M1 remix from doom classic, or any from DOOM(2016) or DOOM Eternal.

[@justanormalaccountnothingt1571]

Honestly they should’ve added more music to the fighter pass in general

[@dededejuega746]

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[@StarPogginum]

A lot of fighter callouts sound weird in the "(name) wins!" format. Case in point, Steve. As shown in the footage, it sounds like the announcer says "Steve! Wins!" I truly wish to have "And, the winner is... Steve!" in the next SSB.

[@een_39]

Hey OC, another nitpick here. The only way to play as master hand is during the World of Light Finale. There should totally be a separate mode where you can fight against three of your friends as MH. Idk I feel like that would be a sick mode.

[@LockedFlea]

This means that odyssey doesn’t have kingdom hearts. W odyssey

[@broski7792]

My nitpick is that the DLC was very formulaic and didn't add much outside of characters and stages. It would've been cool if we got new items, bosses or assist trophies from the DLC. We have loads of franchises in smash now, but a lot of the new ones don't feel as integrated into the game as Mario, Pokemon etc. It would've been cool if they replaced the horrible PNG food items with Minecraft food, for example. Also, games like Xenoblade and Dragon Quest don't even feel like real parts of the game when it's literally just one character repping them, and you never see any of the side characters outside of final smashes and spirits.

[@justanormalaccountnothingt1571]

Being a big time Sephiroth fan, I definitely wish they kept the boss fight event and updated Cloud’s classic mode. It would’ve been very nice keeping that boss fight since it was very fun, and Safer Sephiroth would’ve been an amazing boss to see in smash as well Could’ve also seen the enderdragon for Steve

[@gechoman44iwantahippo]

Honestly, as much as Tuxedo Steve would make sense, before I started using a gecko skin, I always used Prisoner Steve, so I’d prefer to have that.

[@jmurray1110]

I’m surprised you didn’t talk about Steve’s other difficult to understand animations Like techs and rolls imsginr instead water buckets and enderpearls