The Cut Final Smashes of Super Smash Bros Ultimate

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Odyssey Central

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The super smash bros series is known for how well it translates characters from their home franchises into a fighting game. One of the most iconic moves in a smash character’s arsenal is their final smash. Over the course of the series however, certain characters have had their final smash changed before super smash bros ultimate. Today I’m gonna cover these cut final smashes and if I like the old or super smash bros ultimate one the best!
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@MishKoz
@MishKoz Жыл бұрын
I feel like Triforce Slash was acceptable when Final Smashes were like a completely new thing. It's very reminiscent of super moves/ultimate attacks in other fighting games, where the characters just hit you a bunch of times with flashy effects happening. I think it definitely had its place as a very simple "this is what a Final Smash is" type of thing, but it does kinda suck that it's stuck around for this long on Young/Toon Link.
@trash_lol
@trash_lol Жыл бұрын
i think it was pjiggles who had a theory that the reason triforce slash exists was to look flashy at e3 2006
@MishKoz
@MishKoz Жыл бұрын
​@@trash_lol Honestly that also makes a lot of sense lol
@Xxblade17
@Xxblade17 Жыл бұрын
Ong
@CypherDenis
@CypherDenis Жыл бұрын
FUNNY ICEBERG MAN !1Q11USOJSM
@ZA-en4bb
@ZA-en4bb Жыл бұрын
Even though i dislike the Triforce Slash, i think the ancient bow and arrow does look a bit lame. I would much rather have the divine beasts or something.
@tikprpro03
@tikprpro03 Жыл бұрын
An interesting thing with Pit’s FS. The reason Pit and Dark Pit were made separate characters in Smash 4 instead of skins like originally intended is because it wouldn’t make sense for Dark Pit to use the Three Sacred Treasures (which doesnt make much sense in of itself because Bowser Jr exists), but since both Pit and Dark Pit have used the Lightning Chariot in Uprising, it basically defeats the original purpose of separating them
@xenokeegami
@xenokeegami Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's weird that Dark Pit FS isn't the Lightning Chariot since he uses it in Uprising and it's current one isn't a reference to anything.
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad he's an echo... because the Silver Bow is hugely more satisfying to use than the Palutena Bow.
@TheWaverunners
@TheWaverunners Жыл бұрын
​@@xenokeegami It's a reference to his Boss Fight where he's Sniping Pit in the beginning.
@pokedude720
@pokedude720 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheWaverunners and it's his namesake weapon
@nintendompower
@nintendompower Жыл бұрын
i mean technically speaking the Koopalings could just wield the Magic Paintbrush to turn into Shadow Mario lol
@gumballfan13
@gumballfan13 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention Ice Climbers. Iceberg works completely different in Brawl and Ultimate. In Brawl, it would just be a huge Iceberg that would cover the entire stage, but in Ultimate, you can control it and even ride on a Condor.
@wfeugate
@wfeugate 6 ай бұрын
Ness too, as in 4, his was differently controlled
@mikelos4434
@mikelos4434 4 ай бұрын
Odyssey didn't cover those characters because they weren't significant enough for the video as opposed to the other characters that were in the video.
@tyranisoar7401
@tyranisoar7401 Ай бұрын
@@mikelos4434ness and lucas’ final smashes add their friends, which is basically the same change shulk and mega man got. they deserved a mention, he just forgot them.
@PJiggles
@PJiggles Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Wario Man 🙏 Also we hate Triforce Slash in this house
@kalpanapuppala6942
@kalpanapuppala6942 13 күн бұрын
Indeed 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿
@TricksterLawlet
@TricksterLawlet Жыл бұрын
A lot of final smahses in ultimate feel the same. They're either a flurry of attacks or the character zipping around the screen or while attacking their opponent
@maskedsteven5257
@maskedsteven5257 Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="371">6:11</a> why was that transition so beautiful
@betafurret1503
@betafurret1503 Жыл бұрын
I miss transformations final smashes. Just becoming the best character in the game for 30 seconds was awesome. I feel they accomplished the power trip feeling that ultimate attacks like final smashes should better than every other final smash
@chamtheman551
@chamtheman551 Жыл бұрын
I have truly missed the old times of the great OP Warioman. As a kid I would purposely play Brawl with the final smash ball just so I could play him. I didn't even care how much damage he could deal he was just hella fun to play as!
@tungstwn1241
@tungstwn1241 Жыл бұрын
Absentmindedly suiciding on a hypersonic bike had me rolling a few times!
@fernando98322
@fernando98322 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Xenoblade nerd so I can explain quickly why Shulk's new Final Smash is bad: the FS is based on the game's Chain Attack mechanic, where you could choose the moves of your party members in sequence while the enemies were frozen. The problem is that the party is only 3 members at a time, but Ultimate added a fourth party member for some reason (Xenoblade Chronicles X did have a party of 4 members but that's an unrelated game). And yeah, Fiora being added is a spoiler but other stuff like Spirits also spoil the same thing
@AznYunHou
@AznYunHou Жыл бұрын
they should've done the Joker thing of making random 2 party members join
@lioheart55
@lioheart55 Жыл бұрын
If they really wanted other characters they could've done what they did for Joker and have every character cycle.
@failure4452
@failure4452 Жыл бұрын
Also Fiora has literally no lines in it, the audio is the same as in smash 4, so she might even have been rushed it for whatever stupid reason
@usermcskull4713
@usermcskull4713 10 ай бұрын
Lucina being in the game is kind of a big spoiler in of itself, read any of her character bios in Smash 4 or Ultimate and they basically just tell you a very important plot point in Fire Emblem Awakening
@zanmolecules4105
@zanmolecules4105 Жыл бұрын
Anybody who’s first, I have a blue shell😈
@yourlocalgardenvarietyidio1030
@yourlocalgardenvarietyidio1030 Жыл бұрын
Hah I'M SECOND L FROSTY
@LittleNinjaXYBA
@LittleNinjaXYBA Жыл бұрын
W
@Ghostfighter797
@Ghostfighter797 Жыл бұрын
Your blue shell is ineffective since I have a super horn 😈
@garywilson2338
@garywilson2338 Жыл бұрын
@@Ghostfighter797 of course you do
@Sleepy-Lunatic
@Sleepy-Lunatic Жыл бұрын
@@Ghostfighter797 *slowly approaches with a boo in hand*
@ezrel6477
@ezrel6477 Жыл бұрын
NOBODY tell me that Wario Man should have been cut. It was the coolest thing ever
@The_Dev_175
@The_Dev_175 Жыл бұрын
If they kept the classic Wario Man transformation while adding the “Comic book effects” ( Like when you land an attack you get a small pop up that says “POW!” or “WHAM!” ), that would be awesome.
@TheWaverunners
@TheWaverunners Жыл бұрын
Two Little Tidbits: 1: Two Cut Final Smashes do technically still exist in Ultimate in the form of Assist Trophies. Ashley functions very similarly to Negative Zone, and does fit her well as Witch who transforms people. And of course, Chef Kawasaki brings back the Chef Kirby Final Smash. 2: Dedede Special is a reference to something, though in a very loose and underwhelming way. The little bomb Dedede pops at the end is a reference to the "Egg Catcher" Sub Game from Kirby's Adventure (as well as Return to Dreamland Deluxe). It definitely would have been a cooler if they fully committed to the reference and had Dedede launch a barrage of eggs and bombs, though I am at least happy we landed on Masked Dedede.
@yayamonday2770
@yayamonday2770 Жыл бұрын
Also Dedede's first final smash is somewhat a reference to how he's the king of all of those waddle dees and waddle doos
@colinjackson-xn9ro
@colinjackson-xn9ro Жыл бұрын
Odyssey central: I hope triforce slash never returns. Smash 6 triforce slash : hello.
@thisnameisbad3609
@thisnameisbad3609 Ай бұрын
in smash 6 every character has triforce slash
@mythicalrock2486
@mythicalrock2486 Жыл бұрын
according to the negative zone trophy in brawl, it says something about how Luigi lived in Mario’s shadow for so long he learned the power.
@supermaximglitchy1
@supermaximglitchy1 Жыл бұрын
ganondorfs final smash also has a functional difference: his stun hit had longer range in brawl and 4 (seemingly endless) while ultimate has it only be the swords
@LittleNinjaXYBA
@LittleNinjaXYBA Жыл бұрын
Psychologist: why does she bother you? Odyssey: *ITS ROSEALENA* 🤬
@castform7
@castform7 Жыл бұрын
You do not know how much of a godsend I thought Masked Dedede Rush was back when it was first shown off. Dedede Burst felt like they just deliberately ignored Masked Dedede as the obvious choice of a Final Smash because "oh no, Superstar Ultra wasn't a game Sakurai worked on".
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 11 ай бұрын
Dedede Burst can at least hit more than 1 person...
@thisnameisbad3609
@thisnameisbad3609 Ай бұрын
@@Nosretep can't ultimates?
@Nosretep
@Nosretep Ай бұрын
@@thisnameisbad3609 No.
@thisnameisbad3609
@thisnameisbad3609 Ай бұрын
@@Nosretep I swear I remember seeing like 3 people on the cage
@Nosretep
@Nosretep Ай бұрын
@thisnameisbad3609 Nope, alot of Ultimate got nerfed when it came to how many can KO. Steve and Incineroar can't still KO more than one when not hit by the main attack.
@owen8095
@owen8095 Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="835">13:55</a> I think they changed it because the 3DS version couldn't handle the Waddlede's during development, so they had to change it on both versions.
@mikelos4434
@mikelos4434 Ай бұрын
Makes sense as there was no way all of the WaddleDees and the gordos that king Dedede doesn't spawn with side special could work.
@darbythegamer5152
@darbythegamer5152 Жыл бұрын
I used to use sonic when i was a kid in brawl and it made me realize why transformation smashes were deleted. A lot of them can fly but if you fly off stage and it untransforms you lose a stock (they don't clearly show when you untransforms)
@homestuck_official
@homestuck_official Жыл бұрын
Man I miss transformation final smashes. "Oooh but the flow of battle" they're banned in competitive anyways make them cool and broken
@castform7
@castform7 Жыл бұрын
If we're playing with Final Smashes on, I don't think we care about the flow of battle.
@3clisp315
@3clisp315 10 ай бұрын
No, I don't care, do not bring them back
@jomaq9233
@jomaq9233 Ай бұрын
At the very least, make the Final Smashes more functionally unique from each other, and only use straightforward cutscene ones sparingly for the few characters who would actually warrant one (like Shulk and Joker)
@yaboiRayT
@yaboiRayT Жыл бұрын
The transformation Final Smashes are the ones I truly miss.
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 Жыл бұрын
My only problem with transformation final smashes are their potential to take multiple stocks, or take one stock and last long enough to leverage the transformation for more damage and a better position. It's frustrating to deal with super sonic swoocing in and taking your stock, and then coming back to the field and *still having to deal with super sonic* with your next stock.
@yaboiRayT
@yaboiRayT Жыл бұрын
@@kevingriffith6011 That’s valid.
@roaringthunder115
@roaringthunder115 Жыл бұрын
Same
@RemiliasHusband
@RemiliasHusband Жыл бұрын
​@@kevingriffith6011 they could just shorten them to a few seconds and do some balancing so they are not that broken. It's not that hard, but of course we got a roster where like half the characters have essentially the same FS with a different cinematic. Remember when Captain Falcon's FS was unique?
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 Жыл бұрын
@@RemiliasHusband Honestly if I were to try to fix it, make it so where in 1v1 the final smash will end early if you take a stock. Give you like... 1-2 seconds to get back onstage if you're in an awkward position, but not long enough that it's still active when the spawning invulnerability wears off.
@tikprpro03
@tikprpro03 Жыл бұрын
I had an interesting idea with Mario’s FS since they want to keep it the same way. Why not have Mario turn into Fire Mario for the final smash. Before firing the fireballs, he’ll hold the fire flower up and transform. Not only would this be more accurate to the Mario games, but it could also make up for the fire mario costume being cut from Ultimate!
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 Жыл бұрын
You are a GENIUS. Man I really wish they'd done that! :U
@TricksterLawlet
@TricksterLawlet Жыл бұрын
Why not just bring the fire Mario alt back?
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 Жыл бұрын
@@TricksterLawlet unpopular opinion but I'd take the Wedding alt over fire mario any day...
@altermann1991
@altermann1991 Жыл бұрын
I'd personally just like to see a new one. I know Cutscene FS are overdone, but I think Mario could use one where he activates a power star, rushes forward and then charges headfirst into the enemies again in a cutscene. Like come on, the power star is one of the most iconic "ultimate" power ups in video game history and the one we have as an item is honestly rather underwhelming.
@vanishedbark6136
@vanishedbark6136 10 ай бұрын
Good idea
@theturtleking2454
@theturtleking2454 Жыл бұрын
I just wish they kept more “crowd control” final smashes. I don’t like how final smashes don’t affect the whole field much anymore and just target a small section or guy
@Sly88Frye
@Sly88Frye Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="797">13:17</a> You make a very great point there. It's like as if they overcompensated for how immensely OP Sonic's final smash was in brawl and four.
@MartynAndStuff
@MartynAndStuff Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: in Ultimates files, there are new textures for DKs Bongos implying Kongo Beat was likely considered to return in some form
@pokemastersalgaming8271
@pokemastersalgaming8271 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, it's kinda weird that Pokémon Trainer's Charizard doesn't Mega Evolve for triple finish. Granted, Mega Evolution wasn't in FRLG or HGSS (the games that have the Pokémon trainer we see in Smash wearing what he wears in smash), but Charizard cannot mega evolve on its own in both the games and anime, so consistency with the base games was not an issue.
@ballisticboo7808
@ballisticboo7808 Жыл бұрын
It probably would have been too much going on visually
@pokemastersalgaming8271
@pokemastersalgaming8271 11 ай бұрын
@@ballisticboo7808 it wasn't when they put Ash Greninja in Greninja's final smash.
@LisWinExp
@LisWinExp Жыл бұрын
I'm really addicted to your videos man, good job with the editing and the production
@Ultimate6489
@Ultimate6489 Жыл бұрын
Also worth noting is that Ness and Lucas's final smashes were slightly changed, both are PK Star Storm but gameplay wise they changed In Brawl the stars will fall of randomly In 4 they were concentrated in a single burst that you can control its direction And in Ultimate you can the stars will fall randomly fall but you can control the area where they fall (also in Ness's final smash in Ultimate Paula and Poo acompany Ness meanwhile in Lucas's he will be acompanied by Kumatora and Boney)
@rsj2877
@rsj2877 Жыл бұрын
Not which is which but also in ultimate one of them have the stars be larger but slower and the other would have them a bit smaller but faster to fall and maybe a bit more numerous on screen.
@JoSephGD
@JoSephGD Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, back in Smash 4 they would essentially guarantee that you would take the stock of everyone on one half of the map.
@-memoria-2136
@-memoria-2136 Жыл бұрын
They also get a new background based on a battle background in their respective game. I'm blanking on what Ness' is but Lucas' is based on the background used in the final Masked Man battle.
@biondigiacomo7176
@biondigiacomo7176 Жыл бұрын
Actually Luigi's old Final Smash Is a reflection of how he felt when he was in Mario's Shadow.
@Xxblade17
@Xxblade17 Жыл бұрын
Transformation final smashes were fun asf
@latexu9589
@latexu9589 Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="63">1:03</a> Actually, I think that move is loosely based on Mario's special move in Super Mario RPG called "Ultra Flame". Or at least, it looks very similar.🤔🔥
@TheRealLifeKillerMoth
@TheRealLifeKillerMoth Жыл бұрын
Dude I have never seen a Smash Fighter done dirtier than Sonic. Man cannot get a break.
@daryncollins7640
@daryncollins7640 Жыл бұрын
the reason why smash 4 changed dedede's final smash is actually most likely because of the 3ds' limitations not being able to deal with all of those enemies especially with 4 player smash
@DPatifinho
@DPatifinho Жыл бұрын
Actually Dedede's Brawl final Smash has a origin reference. It references Dedede being the King of Dream Land. The Enemies he spawns are normally seen on levels on Dream Land and are their residents. Waddle Dees are literallyy some of his main subjects. That is shown on Planet Robobot and Star Allies intro cutscene
@usermcskull4713
@usermcskull4713 10 ай бұрын
Personally I don't think it represents Dedede too well, at least not the current Dedede. I feel he's not the type of guy who wants other people to fight for him
@thedodgeviperacr5935
@thedodgeviperacr5935 Жыл бұрын
I really hated that they removed the transformation smashes and the reason they were removed was bad, you're telling me that they disrupt the flow of the game when the only way that would be a real problem is a competitive scene where they're never used in the first place, then there are items that fulfill similar purposes as to what the smashes do.
@N-tw3ro
@N-tw3ro Жыл бұрын
I wish we still had controllable final smashes
@zanmolecules4105
@zanmolecules4105 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, Yoshis final smash was ruined
@TAYBR00K
@TAYBR00K Жыл бұрын
I personally disagree. The final smashes being quicker makes the pace of a match move quicker. I'm probably gonna be ratio'd for thinking different.
@adamnielson42
@adamnielson42 Жыл бұрын
​​@@TAYBR00K fair argument, however I feel like if you play with items or final smash on, you're not necessarily looking for quick competitive game play, and just looking for things to occasionally completely change up the game. (Also I hate to tell you this, but I would not say things like "I'm probably gonna be rationed for this" because at least to me, it makes me more likely to dislike you, and then from that disagree with you, and support a ratio. That could be just me though)
@TAYBR00K
@TAYBR00K Жыл бұрын
@@adamnielson42 I hate to tell you this but I would not say things like "Also I hate to tell you this, but I would not say things like "I'm probably gonna be rationed for this" because at least to me, it makes me more likely to dislike you, and then from that disagree with you, and support a ratio. That could be just me though" because at least to me, it makes me more likely to dislike you, and then from that disagree with you. That could be just me though.
@adamnielson42
@adamnielson42 Жыл бұрын
@@TAYBR00K okay
@Zakar0
@Zakar0 Жыл бұрын
From what I remember, I believe King Dedede's Final Smash was changed for Smash 4 because the 3DS would get laggy with that many character models on screen in larger games, similar to why Ice Climbers were cut.
@BlackShadow01-05
@BlackShadow01-05 8 ай бұрын
One thing I do prefer about the cutscenes is that they are so much more badass as a finisher.
@anotheryoutubeaccount5259
@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 7 ай бұрын
True
@ilikethecokev2
@ilikethecokev2 Жыл бұрын
I wish Pit kept Three Sacred Treasures, I personally feel it's his all-time best one.
@spacesoccercowboy6091
@spacesoccercowboy6091 Жыл бұрын
I think the worst part of Wario Man's change VISUALLY is that they removed the WarioWare Touched reference, where in that game, if you feed standard Wario Nasty Garlic, he did a little spin before transforming into Wario Man, nice touch. But then they ruined it to be a standard charge forward for the cutscene FS... Lame
@LaFamilleJoue
@LaFamilleJoue Жыл бұрын
Rhythm Heaven best rhythm game
@afanofjustice
@afanofjustice Жыл бұрын
That animation was the only good thing about his old FS, now it’s actually a move that i want to use
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Nobody gonna mention Advent Children Cloud getting a visually distinct Final Smash? It has different text and more swords; what more could you want!?
@fuscello
@fuscello Жыл бұрын
The new pac man final smash also references the fact that Pac-Man can go to the left of the screen by always going right
@mrds4545
@mrds4545 Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is such a banger
@obliviouslynormal3664
@obliviouslynormal3664 Жыл бұрын
I can't decide if I like the more technical power up-esq final smashes from brawl and smash 4 or the more (for lack of a better word) mindless ultimate final smash because I liked playing as wario man and giga bowser but then again it feels way more consistent in ultimate
@Speedster428
@Speedster428 Жыл бұрын
Transformation smashes must have been a lot of fun. They should have made young link put the feirce diety mask. That would have been a lot of fun. I dont see why nintendo does not want transformation smashes.
@BoyFromBelgium99
@BoyFromBelgium99 11 ай бұрын
*I'm really glad you included Ash-Greninja in this video, it is a nice addition, similar to Lucario!*
@joshuaferguson2104
@joshuaferguson2104 Жыл бұрын
They should make a new classic mode so we can go in and customise our character final smash (of course only the fighters who had other final smashes)
@throcky5699
@throcky5699 11 ай бұрын
the robin final smash reference during the oit explanation killed me
@Freddyspizzaworld
@Freddyspizzaworld Жыл бұрын
DRY BONES FOR SMASH
@Skypatroller_BenCD
@Skypatroller_BenCD Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="40">00:40</a> technically Ness and Lucas' final Smash IS altered cause yeah it PK Starstorm but it's not the same between Brawl Sm4sh and Ultimate
@Ultra_Shot
@Ultra_Shot 8 ай бұрын
I love your videos man. Also I really miss King de de de's finale smash
@spider-jeff_101
@spider-jeff_101 Жыл бұрын
This was exactly the kind of video I was craving after watching ur final smashes ranking
@piewar3076
@piewar3076 11 ай бұрын
To be fair, even though I miss wario man, it was easy to accidentally self-destruct with wario man because the motorcycle was so fast, as well as wario man’s super fart shooting you off the top of the screen
@YourBestVr
@YourBestVr Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="252">4:12</a> I SEE YOU PHANTOM PUPPET
@dymaz6282
@dymaz6282 27 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="732">12:12</a> They could have just make charizard transform into charizard x DURING THE TRIPLE FINISH <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="768">12:48</a> He could do a combo while transforming into all his forms (werehog, excalibur, darkspine), then end with his super form as the final move
@diamondmemer9754
@diamondmemer9754 Жыл бұрын
the thing you aim Giga Bowser's punch with in ultimate is a reference to Yoshi's island
@autismandgaming4532
@autismandgaming4532 Жыл бұрын
Dedede's Final smash has changed more often than the... Actually I can't think of anything lol
@magmarxiogaming6717
@magmarxiogaming6717 Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="954">15:54</a> the only really noticeable part of it is that the stars that shoot out of the power star bounce off of surfaces and go further where as the grand star grows faster and bigger than the power star
@ShaneRie123
@ShaneRie123 Жыл бұрын
I had so many memories with Yoshi, Snake, Luigi, Falco, King Dedede and I personally don’t like that they seem to be prioritising these more quick, ‘one on one’ strikes, as I prefer the older more ‘fun’ ones from brawl. But I do understand that they are trying to create a more standardised competitive gameplay for ultimate, which would require them to make such alterations. Anyways, another great video! Loved to see some of the older final smashes and completely forgot lucario had a different one in smash 4!
@Cooldudecrafter
@Cooldudecrafter Жыл бұрын
babe wake up new odyssey central vid just dropped
@Withered_Bonnie2000
@Withered_Bonnie2000 11 ай бұрын
Sorry for being that guy but , the negative zone's lore is the following: luigi takes his rage , sadness and jelousy from being overshadowed by mario and forms it in a zone
@jaco8822
@jaco8822 Жыл бұрын
Remember when we had PLAYABLE final smash?
@jaco8822
@jaco8822 Жыл бұрын
@Logan fr
@roaringthunder115
@roaringthunder115 Жыл бұрын
I miss the transformation final smashes. Such a power trip. But I get why they got changed for balance reasons. R.I.P. Super Sonic
@Alexs23743
@Alexs23743 Жыл бұрын
...Which makes no sense when you realize that the only people who care about balance don't even USE Final Smashes.
@vlassispolitis-a
@vlassispolitis-a Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is amazing, I mean how could you NOT click on that
@milesedgeworth8683
@milesedgeworth8683 Жыл бұрын
Tbh with Bowser Jr's final smash I would like for the Koopalings to have a different one using Bowser's clown cart (a bit of reference for NSMB2). I haven't decided how would that work but still it would make more sense
@mercury2118
@mercury2118 Жыл бұрын
Im holding out hope for cut taunts. Also totk has some amazing references to older zelda games so enjoy, Odyssey
@lemonking3851
@lemonking3851 Жыл бұрын
you have very good opinions on this game and seem to be very good at it so I was wondering how many hours do you have??
@Da_Trololz
@Da_Trololz Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="829">13:49</a> the bomb in smash 4 is from Kirby Pintball Land.
@leakingbag
@leakingbag Жыл бұрын
Giga mack? Sounds like a close court case. Anyway, At the beginning of the video, you said that there was a let down on the two link final smashes. So what they could have done for young like was have the moon crash down or have him use the fierce deity mask. But here’s where it gets hard! Toon link can use Elzo to shrink everyone to a small size. Or toon link can split into 4 and IDK. However, four swords games are the lowest part of Zelda (except for the CDI) so I don’t know if people will get it as much. Toon link could run over people with the spirit train or summon leprechaun man and weird ninja guy from spirt tracks to kill you. Or this doubles as from phantom hourglass and the Wind Waker The ghost ship comes and capture the enemy and will do a sting hit. I would most likely want to see the ghost ship since The Wind Waker is my favorite game ever. ALL OF THESE WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE GOOBER SLASH!!
@pokedude720
@pokedude720 Жыл бұрын
Since Toon Link seems to be very much of the Wind Waker part of his journey I'd put in a suggestion of "The Helmorock King carries the enemy off stage" or "He calls Tetra/the pirates (or an enemy bomb boat if on pirate ship) to launch an attack"
@leakingbag
@leakingbag Жыл бұрын
@@pokedude720 Yeh, in the Pirates maybe fling the enemy off a barrel like in the beginning?
@imn_fauler6098
@imn_fauler6098 Жыл бұрын
Sakurai said it on a interview about they changing dedede final smash, he said that the old one would not work on the 3ds version of smash 4
@sygiliph2495
@sygiliph2495 Жыл бұрын
I really want Kirby to get a new Final Smash. Ultra Sword is cool, but Kirby has more cooler final attacks than just a big sword. And personally, I think what the Final Smash is based on is... really boring. So, the actual Ultra Sword Finisher from Return to Dreamland and Return to Dreamland Deluxe is really boring. Kirby just slowly hits Magolor in sudden quick blinks, and the final hit looks like it goes OVER the guy instead of through. TL;DR, it feels incredibly weak in the base game, and just feels slightly stronger and flashier. Also, the Ultra Sword is SUPER BASIC. It's just "big sword does big slashes". They already messed with Kirby for sword by randomly turning his up smash (a move from the Cutter copy ability) into a sword rather than an actual cutter. What do I want? Hypernova. Everyone just forgets it but it's so fitting. Just use it like a reverse, stationary version of the Inklings' Killer Wail Final Smash.
@micahheyward5342
@micahheyward5342 Жыл бұрын
This was a Smashing good video(even if I disagree with close to half if not more than half of your opinions, but we're all entitled to one, so I can't complain too much)
@BlazeMasterBM
@BlazeMasterBM Жыл бұрын
I dont get Sakurais logic that "transformations affect the pace of a match" like what ???? And sitting there watching a cutscene doesnt ?????
@bdt2002gaming
@bdt2002gaming Жыл бұрын
My favorite cut Final Smash was Ukulele Pichu’s solo. …oh, wait.
@TheFoolish727
@TheFoolish727 2 ай бұрын
I think Luigi’s original final smash would have been a way better for for Waluigi had he been added,since weird dances are something Waluigi already does,and since he too has been overshadowed by the other plumbers
@TheLobsterCopter5000
@TheLobsterCopter5000 Жыл бұрын
I actually really like Triforce Slash, mostly because I care more about how powerful final smashes are than whether they reference something or not. Triforce Slash in Smash 4 did 60% damage and killed really early. Ancient Bow and Arrow in Ultimate does a pathetic 35% damage and kills later.
@edmpunkfire7793
@edmpunkfire7793 25 күн бұрын
One thing, Mario Finale has a loosely based reference of the Ultra Flare from Mario RPG. The Triforce Slash is actually based on the final hits Link does to Gannon in Ocarina of Time. Yoshi’s Stampede! is also based on the tyke Yoshi’s Stampede move in Paper Mario TTYD. Negative Zone is based on the Negative Zone in SMB1, and is referencing how Luigi is the eternal understudy
@peashooter0015
@peashooter0015 Жыл бұрын
I think a great idea for a vid would be to think of an idea for a new final smash for every character
@RemiliasHusband
@RemiliasHusband Жыл бұрын
I don't care if it "disrupts the flow of battle", cutscene final smashes do that too. I mean, do you really like having to sit for like 5 seconds just so your opponent's FS finishes playing? It gets worse the more people there are in the match. With Negative Zone in particular, I really hope they give it to Waluigi if he ever gets in. First, Waluigi is known for being a cheater and Luigi's nemesis, so it'd make sense if he copied a move from the latter. Second, the FS is a dance, and one of Waluigi's few major roles as an antagonist was in Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix. Third, such a bizarre FS fits perfectly with Waluigi's overall character. Finally, the FS was based on how Luigi is always obscured by his older brother, and like you said he originally was just a pallette swap and nothing else. It perfectly fits with Waluigi, a character who has never had an actual role in a Mario game outside of spin-offs, is always obscured by the other three, has bad chemistry with basically everyone else aside from Wario, was created just so Wario could have a tennis partner, and has been relegated to be an Assist Trophy in Smash for over a decade. It'd make sense for him to vent all that negative energy in the form of a FS.
@BigAlvideos101
@BigAlvideos101 3 ай бұрын
Actually, I believe that Mario Finale IS based off something- which is the Ultra Flame attack from Super Mario RPG! Also, Young Link's Final Smash really should've been Fierce Deity Link- or a version of it that's similar to Triforce Slash, but instead of it being Triforce-based, it's based off the Fierce Deity mask from Majora's Mask! As for Yoshi, his STAMPEDE Final Smash is also based off Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Yoshi partner's attack of the same name!
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 Жыл бұрын
They should have compromised by making Charizard become Mega Charizard X during the Triple Finish... that would have been _amazing._
@joeyhoudersheldt1619
@joeyhoudersheldt1619 Жыл бұрын
I find it cool how Nintendo keeps a few thing from the DK bongos 2 games with DKs old fs being a reference to donkey konga and his new one could possibly be a reference to DK jungle beat.
@TheGreatVoicemancer
@TheGreatVoicemancer 15 күн бұрын
Luigi weaponizing his depression will never not be funny
@typhoonlava6488
@typhoonlava6488 2 ай бұрын
A lil small detail ya missed but, Triple Finish is different between games as Squirtle uses Whirlpool in Ultimate while Brawl it is supposedly just blasting out Hydro Pump. Which is makes sense them using it in context of the old pokemon games where those where the strongest moves of their respectful types, that being Fire Blast, Solar Beam, and Hydro Pump. Though the whirlpool is a fine change as it helps catches and drags opponents into the middle of the Smash Attack.
@jackleskowski
@jackleskowski Жыл бұрын
Bro recorded fast for TOTK XD. I'm watching this well playing TOTK.🤣
@Scungilio64
@Scungilio64 28 күн бұрын
i like how nintendo replaced transformation final smashes with cutscene final smashes to be "less distruptive" despite the fact that people cannot do anything when cutscenes are happening
@dockingwater1713
@dockingwater1713 Жыл бұрын
Meta Knight's Darkness Illusion just hurts. Definitely hope they go back to Galaxia Darkness in the next game whenever that comes around. Or maybe even take Upper Caliber from Star Allies and Forgotten Land.
@Goatman_Gamer
@Goatman_Gamer Ай бұрын
Still can't believe Dry Bones got cut.
@octanproductions6492
@octanproductions6492 Жыл бұрын
If in the next smash they qds a mr. L costume, I'd love for mr. L to have the old negative zone
@X-zz6jm
@X-zz6jm Жыл бұрын
Triforce Slash is based on the fact that the main goal of alot of Zelda games is to collect all 3 pieces of the triforce to restore peace. In the Brawl description of the Triforce Slash trophy, they state that Link uses the Triforce of Courage to constantly stab his opponent. In Zelda 1, your main goal was to get the Triforce of Wisdom to kill Ganon because it was the ONLY WAY to kill him. That's why Triforce Slash is a thing. And also I don't get the hate that it gets other than the fact that more than one Link has it and the "My favorite game isn't referenced in his Final Smash" bias.
@e.bsketch3815
@e.bsketch3815 Жыл бұрын
DK jumping in outer space and punching the moon down on his opponent like he did in donkey kong country return, would've been better.
@christianthompson2768
@christianthompson2768 Жыл бұрын
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I never liked the Transformation Final Smashes. I totally get the appeal of them, especially when they can require a fair bit of skill to Master, but to me, nothing was worse than getting a Transformation Final Smash and just having everyone run away from you and avoid you the whole time, wasting it for you, the user. To me, it was even worse than missing one that needs perfect Alignment like Robin or Wolf's. It also to me felt like they could often rely too much on skill. I love Smash and am quite good, but it did sting when I'd play something like Smash 4 or Brawl with someone who wasn't as good and got something like Sonic or Wario's Final Smash and just sucked with it. Again, I know there's definitely skill you need to have to use the alignment FSs, but I feel like the Transformation ones often can require more.
@DraftyDaftyHubertOHare
@DraftyDaftyHubertOHare Жыл бұрын
You picked the best cut final smash for the Thumbnail. I truly miss Wario Man.
@AlexPies1
@AlexPies1 Жыл бұрын
Ness's/Lucas's final smash actually also changed from Smash 4 to Ultimate. Their PK Starstorm used to cover the whole stage, but in Ultimate, it falls in more of a concentrated beam area that you can aim like Lucario's final smash.
@GiveMeMeatballsImHungry
@GiveMeMeatballsImHungry Жыл бұрын
We gotta riot at Nintendo HQ to bring back transformation final smashes
@pandalenz6534
@pandalenz6534 9 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="117">1:57</a> Odyssey you scared the crap outta me!
@ShimmeringVapidCoal
@ShimmeringVapidCoal Жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like this video is going to become the least memorable Odyssey Central video ever
@sky8ash
@sky8ash Жыл бұрын
I feel like Luigi's negative zone could still worked if it involed Mr L
@BillPickl
@BillPickl Жыл бұрын
You should make a minecraft structure rating video!
@gigahammer662
@gigahammer662 Жыл бұрын
I am sooooo mad that you didn’t include my main, Greninja. He looks soooo cool, and they changed his AniMaTiOn between sm4sh and ultimate. You are soooo mean!!!!
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