Furia Accelerator in an upgraded Amiga 600

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Jan Beta

Jan Beta

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@chloedevereaux1801
@chloedevereaux1801 3 жыл бұрын
you have worked 145.8 years without an accident :D pretty awesome
@ExGemini
@ExGemini 3 жыл бұрын
The important this is that Turrican 2 runs smoothly, that's all that matters no matter what! :D
@CodexPermutatio
@CodexPermutatio 3 жыл бұрын
I got a Furia too (40MHz!) and it really is a great accelerator. It turns the Amiga 600 into a little monster.
@Marinus_Retro_Lounge
@Marinus_Retro_Lounge 3 жыл бұрын
Danke Jan das du unsere Jugend wieder zurückbringst und auch für eine vernünftige Unterhaltung in der heutigen Zeit sorgst. Mach weiter so und bleib Gesund. Beste Grüße aus Ingolstadt. Marinus
@hollgo626
@hollgo626 3 жыл бұрын
Ich schließe mich an dieser Stelle absolut an. Der Amiga 600 war damals ja nicht so beliebt, aber schau mal an, was so ein Gerät , knapp 30 Jahre alt, mit auslaufenden Elkos und vergilbten Gehäuse, heutzutage kostet ! Der kostet mehr als manch ein zeitgenössischer Laptop oder Tablet ! Die Leute lieben die kleine Kiste mittlerweile richtig 😏, aber er ist es auch wert. Cooles Teil von 1992....
@parrottm76262
@parrottm76262 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what I would call the ultimate, compact Amiga. Well done!
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames 3 жыл бұрын
I will probably never be lucky enough to own an Amiga, but I still find these videos fascinating. Keep them coming.
@TheSulross
@TheSulross 3 жыл бұрын
but Pimigas are affordable (Raspberry Pi 4)
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSulross Thanks. I will check into this.
@londongaz2
@londongaz2 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks to your earlier videos, I've already added the RGB2HDMI to my A600, so I'm looking forward to finding out all about this! Thanks for all you do, Jan.
@Cristianovcorp
@Cristianovcorp 3 жыл бұрын
I just got my furia. Tomorrow i'll try to install on my a600. Thanks for this vid.
@bazZy33K
@bazZy33K 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but every time I see one of your video, I feel like I'm watching a video of an old, lost and much loved friend. :-)
@DavoidJohnson
@DavoidJohnson 3 жыл бұрын
The inside of an Amiga seems to expand like a TARDIS.
@neakmenter
@neakmenter 3 жыл бұрын
A great collection of things happening there on the A600. Pretty much as pimped as you'd like to keep true to the original idea. (ie no Vampire). It's always slightly ironic to see a modern single board Pi relegated to a single task of converting some video, when it could emulate the whole amiga faster than the original, but I guess this is tribute to how much we love the authentic machine itself!
@gertsy2000
@gertsy2000 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats Jan Beta. High powered A600 with the lot. Superb.
@10MARC
@10MARC 3 жыл бұрын
I have lockup issues when I combine my Furia and my RGB2HDMI - both work flawlessly on their own. Also, IDESpeedup makes a HUGE difference when combined with ShadowROM - like from 700 KBS to 3+ MBS. Many, many times faster.
@lokz9632
@lokz9632 3 жыл бұрын
I have 16 GB Sandisk in it, I get approx 1800 in SYSINFO on DH0, blazing fast.
@jaycee1980
@jaycee1980 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I have pointed out on the RGB2HDMI design is that drawing the amount of power the Pi needs to run from the power traces on Denise is a Bad Idea. You may find if you add an extra 5V feed to the Pi (from the floppy header from example) things get more stable
@10MARC
@10MARC 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaycee1980 how does that work if the Pi is already grabbing power from Denise? If I power the Pi from the USB won't that overload the old girl?
@jaycee1980
@jaycee1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@10MARC I mean feed 5V power into the USB port from the Amiga itself.. it's still the same 5V, so no, nothing bad happens. The only difference is there's thicker wires which are able to handle more current
@3vi1J
@3vi1J 3 жыл бұрын
LOL - the 53280 & 53281 days sign in the background borders on my idea of humor. Quite colorful, one might say. :)
@spawnterror
@spawnterror 3 жыл бұрын
Found my new fav channel ;) Thank you.
@joachimfirnhaber8729
@joachimfirnhaber8729 3 жыл бұрын
Danke Jan für das Video. Der HDMI Adapter läuft sehr gut mit der Furia auch in meinem 600er.
@robertplestenjak
@robertplestenjak 3 жыл бұрын
I have A600, Furia with official 13.1 firmware, RGB2HDMI and additional 1MB memory. Works with 3.2, but only with SD/CF cards 8GB or smaller.
@draggonhedd
@draggonhedd 2 жыл бұрын
my favorite thing about amiga upgrades is how adhoc they are, really feels like you're doing something.
@lokz9632
@lokz9632 3 жыл бұрын
I have 3.1.4 roms and Furia boots with full ram and PCMCIA Lan card inserted. If you want that with 3.2 you need to use Remus and build custom 3.2 ROM by insering card.device from 3.1.4 in it (older one).
@Jamesfo8rf
@Jamesfo8rf 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I’m a big fan of your setup. Nice four Channel key sight scope 👍
@curiousottman
@curiousottman 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll say it again. I don’t think Jan is lucky it all works. I think his methodical approach to exceptionalism ensured this accelerator would work. No hack and slash job has ever been seen on this channel. Patience and dedication win out most.
@TzOk
@TzOk 3 жыл бұрын
No Furia video is valid without Frontier - Elite II intro ;)
@dougjohnson4266
@dougjohnson4266 3 жыл бұрын
Nice looking A600.
@BottIsNotABot
@BottIsNotABot 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's nice when things just work!
@andrewprettyquick2070
@andrewprettyquick2070 Жыл бұрын
I want an amiga again. 🤩
@12w3hji123456789
@12w3hji123456789 Жыл бұрын
You could do some tests with different size CF and SD cards and see if there is any issues
@chrisrobson8540
@chrisrobson8540 3 жыл бұрын
Nearly the full 146 years.....stay safe in the workplace! Lol More seriously can I point the way to mark fixes stuff.....Great retro channel who's just lost his home and retro studio and collection (not to mention all the families personal items) To a devastating home fire......anything we as a community of retro lovers can do to help the poor bloke I'm sure would be appreciated (we all know we're such a lovely bunch of old buggers lol)
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 3 жыл бұрын
I love you're mentioning this. As a matter of fact, I had to jump back a few seconds in this video every now and then to catch up since my mind was wandering a bit because of Mark, after watching the second disaster video about one hour earlier. I´ll add the link for the current Paypal fundraise is in the description of that video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqeQfKN6m6-ofs0&
@elmariachi5133
@elmariachi5133 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, doesn't the Furia have the maprom feature? So you wouldn't even need the Rom-switcher anymore..
@bufordmaddogtannen
@bufordmaddogtannen 3 жыл бұрын
What about reinstalling the kickstart switcher? It looks like its overhanging PCB may just sit nicely on top of the furia and provide some added stability. Also an extra socket under the switcher could add some clearance if needed.
@heffe2001
@heffe2001 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, with the original 3.2 upgraded KS, you had to disable the cache on the CPU to get it to boot at all (I believe it was cache, it's been about a year since I upgraded a 600, and didn't keep it long afterward), but I believe they fixed that issue in a later patch level of the 3.2 OS. You may not need it for yours, but there's a 'thing' on Thingiverse that goes on top of the Furia, between it and the keyboard that helps keep it locked in the socket a bit better.
@danielson9579
@danielson9579 3 жыл бұрын
020ec isn't that the cut down version of the 020 that you get in the A1200?
@ITGuyinaction
@ITGuyinaction 3 жыл бұрын
💪😁🔥🔥🔥 Interesting video! P.S. It looks so easy to make such a video until... you really start doing this. Currently I'm preparing my first "repair" type film and video editing is so time consuming.... Probably doing this since so much time you have everything much better prepared but still my small initial experiences make me to appreciate your work much better!
@stevemann6082
@stevemann6082 3 жыл бұрын
great video, love the a600.
@giuseppelavecchia775
@giuseppelavecchia775 3 жыл бұрын
Jan,questo video mi piace,sia perche l'A600 e' uno dei miei AMIGA preferiti,e anche per la scheda furia,e' una buona scheda e pompa abbastanza bene l'A600.un bel lavoro
@thomas-NK
@thomas-NK 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh, I am waiting for my first ever Amiga to arrive and it is a 600HD😊 Furia and other goodies is already waiting so great to see how this is done😁
@brostenen
@brostenen 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats.... 🙂
@ijabbott63
@ijabbott63 3 жыл бұрын
Could an extra socket be fitted underneath the Kickstart switcher board to lift it up a bit above the Furia PCB?
@SimonQuigley
@SimonQuigley 3 жыл бұрын
Or just file down the edges of both PCBs
@wishusknight3009
@wishusknight3009 3 жыл бұрын
Why isn't the fast ram mapped into the 32 bit space?
@Darth_X0
@Darth_X0 3 жыл бұрын
Where to find an A600..😀
@Ramdileo_sys
@Ramdileo_sys 3 жыл бұрын
huh.. Adrian Black install an upgrade that connects just like this one.. they wonder how does it work.. it disable the original onboard chip.. how? ... or do they work together..
@GraphicalRanger
@GraphicalRanger 3 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 thanks. Thinking that I may get furia sometime. But like to try pistorm on my A600 if I can find one.
@estebanvillalobos2303
@estebanvillalobos2303 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a Furia in my 600, it’s been good for the most part but it’s fiddly and sometimes doesn’t work and needs to be reseated
@BarfusWOW
@BarfusWOW 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Black Furia and it cause all kinds of issues from working fine to loading into a black screen with nothing on it at all
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe something like a contact issue on the PLCC socket? Have you tried contact cleaner or cleaning the contacts with alcohol? I hear some people had to work around issues like that by adding bits to push down the card mechanically while the case was closed.
@BarfusWOW
@BarfusWOW 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanBeta I believe it is bad firmware, so i'm going to be sending my A4000 to get recapped at a local company that does amiga parts and recapping and he said he would reflash the Furia and see if that clears it up, since if i pull the Furia out, it runs with no issues (the A600, and the A600 has been recapped)
@stih201
@stih201 3 жыл бұрын
Will it now run castle Wolfenstein?
@Wikcentral
@Wikcentral 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have enough keyboard clearance to stack sockets to get the kick start switcher higher so the pcb clears? Otherwise some ribbon cable and couple of sockets to make an extension to the socket.
@20kilovolt
@20kilovolt 3 жыл бұрын
Try a double ic socket to put the kickstart rom in it
@Doug_in_NC
@Doug_in_NC 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought. I was scrolling down to see if anyone else had the same idea so I didn’t just duplicate a post. Not sure how much height there is to allow it, but I think it should fit.
@20kilovolt
@20kilovolt 3 жыл бұрын
@@Doug_in_NC I should have done that too because 4 hours ago Ian Abbott post te same idea and found out after I posted🙄
@dougahrens3615
@dougahrens3615 3 жыл бұрын
Jan your timing of his video to me its ironic as I just installed a Furia in my 600 worked perfect 1st try. I have a multi 4 rom switchable kickstart installed, it didn't have enough clearance between the Furia like yours so I added a dip socket as a spacer and gave it height to clear it and without hitting the keyboard so you could try that.
@holleholl3057
@holleholl3057 3 жыл бұрын
OS 3.2 works without any issues in my A600 alongside the Furia and the Furia really is absolutely PICKY with both SD- and CF-Cards brands and sizes. I never managed to get it to work with models larger than 512 MB, well, you can live with it...BTW: there is a nice GUI for furiatune - renders things much cosier...I´m using a 4,5 Amp power supply as well - might be an issue for some users...
@mja65
@mja65 3 жыл бұрын
Works for me up to and including 1gb. Over that it only works using an older version of scsi.device and then performance of the drive slows down by 50%.
@TheSulross
@TheSulross 3 жыл бұрын
the Furia appears to use actual CPU and FPU parts - that's interesting - guess there's plenty of those to be had for serving niche markets like retro computing (and with current chip shortage, perhaps even easier to get than some FPGA chips???)
@carocalculon8781
@carocalculon8781 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jan, ich habe mir eine Furia mit aktiver Kühlung gekauft. Alles klappt soweit, aber das Keyboard Flex liegt na ja so halb auf dem Lüfter. Ist das schlimm. Sollte ich dies besser zur Seite wegdrehen irgendwie? Wird ja schon etwas warm. Vielen Dank im voraus.
@carbonunit3191
@carbonunit3191 3 жыл бұрын
How much in the way of upgrades, would you need to make it surf the web? And increase the resolution to sonething higher like 1080p?
@3viis
@3viis 3 жыл бұрын
PiStorm or Vampire.
@LeoA2600
@LeoA2600 2 жыл бұрын
Unusual orientation for the power switch on your power supply. Looks like you're pressing it downwards to turn it on instead of the typical upwards direction I'm accustomed to. Is that typical for Europe (I'm from the USA)?
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I’ve seen both directions of power switches here, I don’t think there’s a proper standard for the orientation.
@MorpheusXTRM201
@MorpheusXTRM201 3 жыл бұрын
I do not know if this was mentioned or not but have you tried flipping the pins of the Kickstart Switcher so the PCB is going down, away from the Furia accelerator?
@d0nKsTaH
@d0nKsTaH Жыл бұрын
How come it was showing 8mb of fast RAM... and 1.5mb slow... Also, the screen only showed barely 5mb of (Fast) RAM total. I read somewhere that some RAM is reserved for the PCMCIA port... Guessing you are using MapROM so that's at least 1mb.... So where did the extra RAM go?
@MrBrianms
@MrBrianms 3 жыл бұрын
A riser for Kickstart board.
@ralfr.5974
@ralfr.5974 3 жыл бұрын
Turrican 2 Approved!
@Evhen_Velikiy
@Evhen_Velikiy 3 жыл бұрын
Am... Isnt RPI0 is actually faster pc than this amiga?
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 3 жыл бұрын
Technically yes. You could just run an emulator on the Pi. But that would take out all the fun of using real Amiga hardware... ;)
@Evhen_Velikiy
@Evhen_Velikiy 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanBeta But why? You can run the same OS, the same programs and games but exclude limitations of real hardware like floppy and etc. Or maybe emulation itself no that correct and reliable?
@brostenen
@brostenen 3 жыл бұрын
Back when I bought my Furia, then I bought an active cooler for it on the Polish site (I think it is in poland). So stock Furia and active cooler. Super stability was what I went for.
@mickeyripper6976
@mickeyripper6976 3 жыл бұрын
Does the active cooler give any gains or benefits? i have just ordered a fan/sink. haven't installed the furia yet, do they get very hot?
@brostenen
@brostenen 3 жыл бұрын
@@mickeyripper6976 It makes it run more cool, and will prevent the hardware from heating up too fast. And the second fan that I have in the case it self, draws out even more heat. Lower heat, also means way more stability. But in the end, I have installed it to give have long lifespan of my 600 and my Furia.
@mickeyripper6976
@mickeyripper6976 3 жыл бұрын
@@brostenenOK. you using cf card or sd?
@brostenen
@brostenen 3 жыл бұрын
@@mickeyripper6976 You can find my mail on my channel, and write me. Then I can send a link to my blog were I have written about my 600.
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah
@bitoxic
@bitoxic 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jan, which Amiga do you use the most? The 600 or 1200?
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 2 жыл бұрын
I love both but I think the A1200 gets more use overall.
@jakubpolomsky
@jakubpolomsky 3 жыл бұрын
Would you be so kind and could you point me to the shop where you got your denise hat for the rgb2hdmi? Currently I have directly soldered to the mainboard and I would be really happy if my a600 could look as tidy as yours! Thank you for the videos, I am always excited, when I see that you post a video. Keep them coming !
@acubley
@acubley 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, 146 years...
@kcolbinyar
@kcolbinyar 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. RGB - HDMI - how did I miss this? Time to shop. The a600 has become a little dream machine, starting out as an ugly duckling. I have a Vamp in one of mine, but am planning on another Furia in the other a600. How did the 3.2 work with other software with this config? Did I miss that?
@r3tr076
@r3tr076 3 жыл бұрын
But will it run Crysis? 😉
@RalonsoF1
@RalonsoF1 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍😊
@Chrfilmer
@Chrfilmer 3 жыл бұрын
Ich glaube ich bin grade in deiner Region. 😅
@DerykRobosson
@DerykRobosson 3 жыл бұрын
"265" when German thinking and English speaking collide. :)
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 3 жыл бұрын
With all that crap in there, I hope it doesn’t overheat. I’d be sucky if the magic smoke came out. 🥺
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