1992 Toyota Celica Carlos Sainz Limited Edition Goes for a drive

[@Quagmire925]

Its a miracle this beauty survived not being ruined by some max power chav!

[@ledgerdavid3435]

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[@BanjoRen]

I'm a huge Celica fan, having owned 3 gen 5, 2 gen 6 and 4 gen 7s, this CS is a stunner. If I had the pennies, it'd be in my garage.

[@51StPi]

I got pelted with gravel by Carlos Sainz (he won) driving one of these, while I was stood in the freezing cold and dark Grizedale Forest (my escape route was to jump behind the big fat tree I was next to) thanks for reminding me.

[@bluemoon8210]

I got pelted by Colin the year he won. Me and the girlfriend arrived at the stage and he came through before we could move from standing on the outside of a massive sweeping bend, doh!

[@grayfool]

What a great thing. Toyota were at their best as far as build quality was concerned at that time. Our Carina II 1990 was an astonishingly reliable car. After 180,000 miles it drove perfectly and absolutely nothing had broken or stopped working. That was quality.

[@jonnygti]

Same with my dads Nissan Sunny “premium”,it was Bright red on a G plate. I swear that thing took us all around the country when we went on family holidays, plus driving around wherever we went aswell, it was our only car so he was using it for work aswell. Had it around 10 years I think in total. Can’t remember the mileage but must have been 180k or more. It never once broke down or failed to start. My dad said the only money he spent on it was for servicing, and consumable parts, that’s it. The only reason he sold it is because it was getting abit long in the tooth, and bodywork was getting abit past it. There was nothing wrong with the engine when he got rid of it.

[@matthewgodwin3050]

Only the Japanese know how to build a car properly. No other nation has got the hang of it yet.

[@flemmingsorensen5470]

Having owned many Toyotas, I have never really “lusted” for one... but this one: W O W !!! This and your Volvo 740, and you have all you really need 😉👍

[@WolfrCats]

This Celica gen always puts a smile to my face, I love how futuristic it looks. I want to own one some day.

[@andrewduffield2322]

I think this design has matured really nicely

[@thesis4349]

I love the Celica but more than the others, the GT-Four 88.

[@ingopaul67]

I had 2 generations of MR2s back in the late 80s and 90s, loved those cars, both with the same pop up headlights, I thought they were so cool.

[@cheltgirl1561]

Interesting to hear and read other people's thoughts on the car. I have had my grey UK CS for 23 years and it still puts a smile on my face when I drive it! Love it so much, we also bought a red one a few years back so we can both do our own mini convoys and meets :)

[@bluemoon8210]

Hi. I owned a white wide-body 92 for around 8 yrs and part ex'd it 10 yrs ago, kept totally standard. I used to go watching the RAC Rally from 1988 ish and this was always one of my dream cars, so to get a white one was perfect. Although, I did like the turquoisey colour too. When I bought it, it had around 130000 miles and I put on around. 50000 in the 8 years. Absolutely loved mine, but I knew it was starting to go underneath. I still hanker after it, especially in the summer months. I used to love the smell it gave off after driving it hard. I don't think I've seen one since I sold mine.

[@bad-bunnyblogger8171]

Car deserves alot more respect than it currently gets.

[@RichieRouge206]

This is such a fab car and so utterly rare!! Always loved these and you never see them anymore. Great video Matt

[@byronmills5952]

I was never a massive fan of Toyotas back in the day - that was until I actually owned one , which brought me a greater appreciation of their engineering integrity. I'm more of a fan of the shape previous to this one stylistically - but what a lovely example from the era of Toyotas imperious period of build and engineering quality. This car with its EEP number plate would have registered in West Wales originally.

[@darren8012]

first time here, this lad is thorough

[@rydermike33]

Beautiful rare car. Great review Matt. (I can just imagine the Celica thundering through the forrest stages late at night with an array of tea and sandwiches on the tea shelf.)

[@glitch314]

What a rare and beautiful car! Thanks to owner for keeping her in such good shape. I used to own a convertible version of the same model (not the Turbo engine though) It was such a cool looking and fun car to drive. I miss it dearly (although it was replaced by a second gen MR2, which was my true love :))

[@pfy2k]

Toyota really do make great affordable, reliable cars! Not many cars of that vintage are still on the roads today!

[@christiangallagher1689]

In Germany, just 63 are currently registered. Some spares are getting hard to get, but the world-wide community is actually very helpful in keeping these on the road. However, rust affecting the sills is a serious problem...

[@Green9686]

I owned 2732/5000 for 4 years and ran it as an everyday car. Best car i've ever driven and that includes my Accord type R and modern BMWs. This one is special as its so original. I don't think it should have the GTfour 4x4 badge on the rear as standard though. I believe that was only for the basic GT4 not the Carlos Sainz. I would love another but its almost impossible to find one now. Thanks for bringing back happy memories.

[@soppingclam]

I used to own one in Adelaide as the 2nd owner with 35,000km; It's called the Carlos Sainz ‘Group A Rallye’ limited edition and mine was #80 of 150 units back in the early/mid 2000s. After refreshing some of the existing components and replacing some of the restrictions with new parts it then spent a lot of time on the dyno to tune it with two different performance modes set on Powerfc+hand controller. It untapped 185awkw (or 250hp at all 4 wheels or 325hp from the crank) quite easily. There is actually a lot of stock improvements built into the Carlos Sainz edition compared to a ST185 GT4. Of course the water to air intercooler, suspension, diff, upgraded turbo, diffs & gearbox strengthening, ignition timing, higher flowing and lighter exhaust, fuel pump, larger injectors and more. Considering apart from some minor exterior changes (apart from bonnet) compared to a standard ST185 GT4 they didn't look a whole lot different but the mechanical improvements made it much more like the rally version. Ended up selling it to buy a 93' GTR which I imported from Japan for $21k AUD and sold the Rallye for a mere $12k. Unreal :/

[@303cerebral]

I'm impressed a 1992 car could accomodate your gigantic modern coffee cup. And a rally tuned sports coupé at that! Love Japanese cars.

[@jonnygti]

Great review of a brilliant classic Toyota👍🏻😎 Can I just say, I like how you go around the whole car, outside and inside, for me this is just as interesting as seeing the car being driven. Some other car channels just start the video in the driving seat driving the car, and just talking and driving through the whole video, and don’t actually talk about the interior or exterior. Keep up the great work 👍🏻

[@furiousdriving]

Thanks! 👍

[@vinnycent007]

The blanking off plate on the center console is for the convertible version. One for the power convertible top and the other for the rear windows. Can confirm.

[@Parknest]

I own a 5th Gen Celica but mine is the the GT with the 3S-GE engine driving the front wheels. I think the stately home you're referring to is Harewood House in Leeds. There's a classic car show there every year and there's also a hill climb.

[@alanstonelake2673]

I had a gen 5 celica gti to. It was brill. I do miss it at times I sold it with 220.000 miles on the clock and everything still worked. Trouble was the tin worm had set in big time

[@thelivingdodo2]

I remember they did a cabrio version of this as well (although not in GT4 guise I don't think), one of the best looking cars of the time.

[@frothe42]

Funny that you mentioned the convertible, one is for sale just down the road from me, here in the US 🇺🇸!

[@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain]

118000 miles.... Looks like it rolled off the production line yesterday, my brother in law had the later version of this car. I had forgotten this version had the cool pop up head lights. Decided to watch this in my lunch break.

[@furiousdriving]

time well spent I hope!

[@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain]

@@furiousdriving defo

[@spencerlorrigan]

A 92 Celica gt was my first car. I had to sell it after the engine broke but I have wanted one of these so bad ever since! Such a cool car!

[@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain]

After work viewing sorted but had forgotten about this shape of celicia

[@Glasscitycarnerd]

Love this car! I have a 93 GT Coupe and just got a 90 GTS Lift-Back. Something special about early 90’s Toyotas!!

[@robc5955]

Oh that is nice, another car I want. Standard celica was everywhere in the 90’s now very rare, this one though lovely.

[@safetyguy2046]

For me anyway...the nicest shaped Celica that was ever made. That one is gorgeous....and probably worth a bit now.😁

[@stevejervis7203]

Thank you receive my brilliant Fast and Furious teashirt this morning. Over the moon with it. Keep up the good work

[@barryjackson8512]

Never been much of a Toyota fan. But this is one I’d love. Great video yet again

[@RobBarter]

Brings back memories. I bought new a GT4 Carlos Cainz back in 1992. I think I put on 60k+ miles (can't quite remember) over 4 years. Hardly ever went wrong. Still have the sales brochure.

[@carlos3812sainz]

hey , want sell that brochure? It's UK market?

[@AlejjSi]

A great car named after a great driver. Carlos Sainz was one of the most humble, most consistent and likeable WRC drivers of the "modern" era. One smal correction though - in 1994, the driver that went on to become the champion in the Celica was Didier Auriol, another of my favorite drivers. They would later meet at Toyota in 1998 and 1999, when Toyota had the Corolla, and Carlos of course would famously loose his 1998 title just 300 meters before the end of the RAC rally. Didier would suffer a similar fate against Makinen in 1999, but on it's farewell to the WRC before moving to F1, Toyota won the constructors title in 1999. Of course there was no official Toyota in 1996 , as they were banned following a breach of the turbo size regulations during 1995, which was only found out after Didier won his home rally and later finished 3rd in Spain, because up until then, the ST205 was painfully slow.

[@phil955i]

Scotty Kilmer liked this

[@christineayres5339]

This ones not in good shape though, serious oil leak according to MOT history but 27 years old , its nearly as old as i am lol

[@jonnygti]

Christophe Ayres that was in the past, if you look at the recent MOTs you can see this has been rectified, it now has no advisories at all, As you said it’s been on the road for 27 years so it’s done well. Heck I’ve seen BMW’s that are only 5 years old with oil leaks!😂

[@darrenakrigg5978]

‘Even non turbo cars should have a turbo gauge’ .....that’s a fair statement 😂

[@DiggerDog1962]

Both this model and the one that preceded are still great looking cars.

[@nicolamiriano9150]

This is probably the best Toyota (maybe with the MR2 Turbo)... Great video as usual

[@jasoncornell1579]

Cue mental image of navigator wearing their tea and sandwiches if the driver pulls away quickly🤣🤣🤣

[@furiousdriving]

lol, or the old Jim'll Fix it roller coaster picnic!

[@asdfgmlkjhgf]

Still a nice looking car today i think.

[@Andyface79]

Yet another cool car version we didn't get in America.

[@rickbee53]

Wow great car and content. thanks! This one passed me by originally, wasnt aware of the existence of this limited run car really nice original condition too

[@stevenjones19-m8i]

Hi Matt, great video,I remember the rally one like this and it had the sparco alloy wheels,this one is nice, limited edition and numbered.

[@wanderinggentile]

You know what would be cool? Take a driveline like this one and use a bunch of homemade bits to stick it under an original Mini...😄😉

[@furiousdriving]

That would be fun!

[@MrMichaelquain]

, I own one of these, a 91 ST182. Gti. Very refined car, will suit an old lady until you slam it down into second gear and put your foot down it transforms into a 90s hot hatch beast and my daughter screams out 'Daddy! Your not supposed to go so fast !' I regularly go out for midnight drives so I can drive the car properly and have some fun. 😁

[@19nods72]

I had one upto 3 years ago. I miss it

[@paultaylor9652]

Lovely Jubbly, another excellent review, remember them well. Chatsworth House.

[@furiousdriving]

Chatsworth!

[@hirohidetokoro9423]

Hi I am a subscriber of your channel in Japan. Every video is very interesting. By the way, my brother used to own and drive the same Celica. Same colour, but it was a convertible model which was I think assembled in the US.

[@furiousdriving]

Hi, and thanks for watching, great to find out how far around the world people are watching! Yes I believe you are right, it was 'American something something' who did the convertible

[@ppopovich2847]

@@furiousdriving Yes, the cars were shipped to ASC Corp in the U.S. for conversion to ragtop models, which included all the necessary structural reinforcement too.

[@stanelder9995]

My wife had a new 1990 Celica with the standard 2.2l na engine with automatic transmission - what a snail that car was.........:)

[@andrewmarriott4033]

Worked with a chap who had one of these 20 years ago gave me a lift a couple of times Often wonder if he ever kept it 👍

[@budge3281]

They're worth a lot of money now so hopefully he did haha

[@Mirage8v]

Love the car. One of the competitors of my Calibra, back then. Looks like the left harmonica below the headrest on the left seat isn't fixed properly?

[@bluemoon8210]

I owned a '92 Turbo4WD around 10 yrs ago, it was exactly the same. Used to annoy the crap out of me. I could never get it to cover the metal on the top of the seat and stay there. Absolutely stunning car to drive but mine had done around 175000 miles (55000 over 8 yrs mine) when I part-ex'd it and it was ready for a lot of welding, but the engine and box were still fantastic. MOT history checkers say it was only MOTd once more, with a failure and advisory list as long as the car. I still wish I'd kept it.

[@simonlloyd7557]

The Calibra was a joke of a car. A Cav with a couple body. terrible handling, horrible to drive, steering wheel off centre, cheap plastics, buzzy engine, rusty, heavy, slow, unresponsive, dated...Apart from that they were awesome.

[@chappy2121]

My auntie had a convertible one of this generation. My cousin pressed an unlabelled button, when my auntie drove the car next, because the exhaust was off centre, the 4 wheel steering my cousin turned on fetched the exhaust off

[@kciparchive]

Interesting and quite a piece of history in itself that it was bought from The Chequered Flag. That garage had quite a history of selling sports cars going back to the time of Graham Warner, but seems to have closed at some point in the 90s.

[@tomicarr90]

That's a nice motor! To cap it all off that radio is so familiar, dad had one of those that followed him through two Orions and a Mondeo 😅

[@furiousdriving]

We all used to do that, get a decent radio and take it car to car for years!

[@tomicarr90]

@@furiousdriving the £800 Celica has a crappy aftermarket head unit, I have the original and I really want to put it back in. The touchscreen looks so wrong but it has bluetooth... Not sure

[@maxidyne]

My favourite Celica ever! Just adore the styling. I want one so bad. Would be nice together with my quattro. Love rally homoligation specials. Needs 4 decent tires though... Great review Matt!

[@Daemonettee]

Great review! I have number 4633/5000 and I love it more than anything!

[@mpersad]

What a wonderfully well looked after vehicle!

[@christineayres5339]

I thought that too mate but check the reg number on Mot history checker , its rusted through and has a bad engine oil leak sadly

[@Johngt4]

I had a gt4 Carlos sainz and now have a 205 gt4, I see your driving round bluebell hill, you're welcome to review mine. I'm just up the road!!

[@paulillingworth1242]

One the nicest Celicas this generation and red really suits it.

[@waynelenney40]

Did you notice the Numberplates spelt Keep. K256 EEP How fitting as this car is definitely worth keeping!

[@furiousdriving]

Yes, the owner takes is as he should keep it!

[@seancooke4127]

Impossible. The owner must have winded the odometer forwards to add the mileage. Not hard to see how anyone could love this. Maybe the pilot bought the Celica because Carlos Sainz demonstrated how well it took off and landed.

[@EvilUnderTone]

I had a ST185 Celica GT4. Great cars, Stick to the road like shyte to a blanket.Very well made too. One of my top 5 cars owned and believe me I've owned a few.

[@richardprice7763]

Best looking Celica by far

[@Graham_Langley]

Going by memory of looking under the bonnet of one of these around '95, the "exit" at 3:45 is in the cambelt cover and couples to the round hole in the bonnet, presumably to cool the cambelt. [Edit] Hmm. Looks like it's not where I remember it. So what does it give air to?

[@furiousdriving]

this engine has all different gubbins and has the water to air intercooler unique to this one so without the workshop manual who knows!

[@soppingclam]

I think you will find because it is about 30 years old the suspension isn't as stiff as it once was

[@gosportjamie]

It's worth pointing out that the Carlos Sainz edition of the Celica was only built in right-hand drive form, which was a little odd as the WRC rally cars were left-hand drive... As well as the intake changes made to offer more power than the standard GT-Four, these Celicas also came with a balanced engine from the factory which made it much easier, and therefore cheaper, for the rally team, which was a wholly-owned subsidiary of Toyota, to machine the engines for competition use. This is why the rev faster, more sweetly and to a higher red line than the standard cars... This generation of Celica was only designed for space-saver spare wheels, hence the shallow well, but Toyota decided to fit a full-size alloy spare in the 4wd drive cars in the UK. It is worth saying, however, that the boot floor is higher in the all--wheel drive cars and, I believe, the spare wheel well is shallower, which isn't really surprising as the previous generation of Celica, and this one, which was more of an evolution rather than a totally new car, were originally designed and engineered to be front-wheel drive, so a lot of changes had to be made to the original design to accommodate the four-wheel drive system. This generation was styled to have a higher rear end than the previous version to allow the 4wd cars to still have a usefully-sized boot, unlike the original GT-Fours which had a rather small boot when you consider the large hatchback they were built with...

[@furiousdriving]

Thats interesting, and one thing that didnt come up anywhere when I researched it was the RHD thing

[@micahwest5347]

I’ve seen left hand drive Carlos Sainz celicas.

[@SwissAvgeek]

​​@@micahwest5347I saw one for sale in my country and it is indeed left-hand drive. Perhaps he was mentioning the Japanese counterpart, the GT-Four RC. That one is RHD only. (Really, the only different thing is the name if I'm not mistaking)

[@micahwest5347]

@@SwissAvgeek I had my eye on one that was listed in Germany but after further investigation the car was supposedly in Poland.

[@peteramos6081]

My Carlo sainz had some HKS tweeks and made 300bhp Godzilla was a fenominal car, big grin on my face every day, unfortunately it got stolen in 2003 never to be seen again , never found.

[@SpacedOdyssey]

The passenger seat on my Corolla Gti automatically slides forward to give access to the rear when the lever is lifted, so you may want to check that if you get the opportinity

[@CarltonCasey]

Fantastic car. I thought the std Gt4 was 201 bhp and the Sainz 215 bhp. Bombproof 3sgte engine.

[@rimmersbryggeri]

The interior looks like a bus replacement service. That's the reason they are still here today.

[@frothe42]

I remember this particular Celica model, although I do not remember if it was a limited edition, selling here in the US. And just down the road from me, in upstate New York, a Celica convertible is for sale!

[@micahwest5347]

The limited edition wasn’t offered in type US. Not a large enough rally fan base to warrant it.

[@carlosfandango2419]

Had a minted Uncle who bought one of these in a green colour. Apparently it was quick, not that I had a chance to sample it's delights! It does look almost up to date however..............!

[@TheRobynhud]

Been looking at them lately very cool. Great job....Massive!

[@tem0079]

A dream car (48yr old American)

[@StevesMachines]

Lovely car, I had a 2.0 GT gen 6.

[@budge3281]

I have a 93 st184r with the 5SFE with only 130,000km get a few nice words about it and offers but I'm not getting rid of it yet. Broken cupholder gang where you at?

[@simonlloyd7557]

The wide bodied version was always the nicest looking of the ST185. I liked the ST205 too, but the Toyotas couldnt get anywhere near the Impreza or the Evo. It was nowhere. I owned the ST205 for a few years and loved it but in terms of performance and character it was nothing compared to the Impreza type R, nor did it have the tuning potential. That said, they're old enough now to be classics and you don't buy one for their performance anymore. If i was in the market again I'd go for another ST205 GT4, but its always nice to see one of these.

[@EddieSLX]

Had a ST185 RC JDM Spec back in the late 90's, out of the box the GT4's were heavy, under powered and had a lot of front end body roll due to factory front sway bar. Compared to the standard Evo's & Wrx's of the time the GT4's would normally come off 2nd best. Ended up ditching factory water cooler, turbo, front and rear sway bars, suspension, pipe and wheels along with replacing ECU with stand alone. Not cheap but wasn't complaining at the time because i liked to look of the 185's and there were not many around then. Would love to get another as a project car.

[@bad-bunnyblogger8171]

The rear seats. Dad use to out me in the middle with my two sisters either side. He used to say - Don't worry Son if we crash, I'll catch you. To which I used to reply - Faster dad!

[@DoubleDeckerAnton]

These are really really SPECIAL...👍

[@xaviersariceable]

I did 250,000 I'm my st185 still the best car I ever had. I'm in a 2020 audi s3 now...

[@Stevieweevietv]

Have to say I've never been a huge fan of the Celica. The styling doesn't do much for me. I prefer the little Honda you drove! I do like the interior though, and I love the seats. An extremely tidy car.

[@nicholasmaher9175]

Great car in outstanding condition but some of your details are incorrect. There's no Torsen front diff, it's just a normal open diff. They all (ST185) have a normal mechanical center diff with a viscous coupling, those are 2 separate devices. The coupling is not in place of a center diff, it is there to limit slip between the front wheel set and rear wheel set, they all (ST185) have 3 diffs. I don't believe there were any additional spot welds.

[@manuelkluge383]

I still got my '91 STi in wonderful condition, i love it. But the seats... If you drive 2h without a break you better see a chiropractor :)

[@donooetomo5213]

CELICA GT4 .... SPIRIT OF WRC THE BEST TOYOTA'S DESIGN BEFORE TNGA AND KEENLOOK .. GOOD LOOKING GOOD MODEL NICE DESIGN POWERFULL AND HIGH TECH GOOD JOB A M A Z I N G THE BEST

[@SA-zoom1]

I drove one of these, a white one when I was 20 years old, felt like a total weapon, it was for sale at the time, I had zero chance of insuring it, hence it was just a test drive ☹

[@SaveTheTrees333]

I have a 93 GTS - fun stuff!

[@mattw8332]

Ha! I remember this Carlos Sainz version of the Celica from the early 1990s. I preferred the succeeding generation of the Celica, with it's quad headlamps (1994-1999?).

[@furiousdriving]

the one that copied the Hyundia Coupe

[@davecraig7082]

How does the drive compare with the Tomcat? Having previously owned a Tomcat I prefer the styling but I imagine the build quality of the Celica is a real step up.

[@furiousdriving]

Its a different league, more power, less frantic and with four wheel drive and the stiffer shell it has more control and stability. The Rover has a bit more character but feels alot less solid

[@trevororegan]

What does eep on the registration mean? I'm in Ireland and I have a C/S that the original uk reg ends in eep too.

[@CFARD]

D best car I have always had out of 145 cars I owned . so desparet to get another one of them soon xx

[@hassankhan384]

Those were days when cars used to look good and toyota had made best cars back then, relible, strong, and great desgins that looked ahead of time then and today, alot better then many modren cars these days we see, I rather have this and be much cooler then drive a new Merc A class or 1 series, so boring.

[@matthewgodwin3050]

Original numberplates. Well it does say KEEP on them.

[@paulgriffiths6344]

Wow what a car, Kids today don't know what their missing.

[@888berg]

What was the single asymmetrical small round hole scoop on the bonnet for?

[@njrra5033]

Great review

[@gaufrid1956]

Toyota quality! What an amazing car!

[@micahwest5347]

Not sure it had a special front diff. Only center and rear as stated in the special document you read.

[@ASH.......................1976]

Doesn't it have bulged wheel arches front and rear ,the other ones didn't

[@MsCold3000]

SCOTTY KILMER HAPPY NOISES :D

[@AJT296]

I always wonder about the tea shelf challenge...... wouldn’t it just fly off when you start driving?....