Fury: a character analysis

[@GoSlash27]

My hot take: The young Waffen SS soldier who finds him under the tank behaves as he would have just a few days earlier, reinforcing the contrast between what he once had been and what he now has become. He has forever lost his newly adopted family as well as the humanity that had previously defined him. People treat him like a hero, but he simply feels like a failure who has lost everything. Speaking as a war vet, that pretty much sums up how I felt. The critics gave this film a lot of flak for "glorifying war", but I came away from it with the opposite impression. It's not accurate in a strictly technical sense, but it's very accurate in an emotional sense.

[@dukecraig2402]

It would be virtually impossible to make a WW2 movie that's 100% technically correct, there's just not enough tanks and other major pieces of equipment left around to get it 100% right, it's amazing that they can get together the equipment that they do to film something like this. I myself was on a weapons system in the Army that most people don't even know existed, it was already scheduled to be phased out not long after I discharged in '86 and I waited for years to see one show up in front of a VFW or American Legion post, about 7 years ago I got to talking to a fellow in a bar that was also a crewman on the same system, in the 36 years since I've been out he's the only person I've ever run into that had the same MOS as me, there aren't many of us around, he happened to be on one in Desert Storm and he told me that when they came back from over there they were so close to phasing them out anyways that they just left them in the middle east and they eventually got sold to the Moroccan government, so I guess I'll never get to see one parked in front of a VFW or American Legion and be able to tell people "I used to be a crewmember on one of those". You can bet that if anyone ever makes a movie about Desert Storm you'll never see an M163A1 self propelled Vulcan in it simply because there aren't any around to use in a movie production, and nobody would ever go to the trouble to modify an M113 chassis to look like one because hardly anyone knows they existed in the first place.

[@dukecraig2402]

@J F I know, even if you look through the comments there's people saying things like "Typical American movie that glorifies the war", if that's someone's take on it, WOW.

[@GoSlash27]

@J F I scratch my head at it too, but there it is nonetheless. If you look at the reviews, the comment "glorifying war" keeps coming up. It's like either they didn't watch the same movie I did or else they don't understand what the word "glorify" means. Even someone with zero frame of reference should be able to recognize how dark and bleak this film was.

[@Tonetwisters]

I came away with the feeling that it has to be hard as hell to endure that much downer ...

[@MegaMkmiller]

@@dukecraig2402 I've seen only a few movies that ''glorify'' war. This is NOT one of them. What happened to Norm is easily seen. People who think this movie glorifies war are morons.

[@trevinormandy14520]

In time of peace sons bury their fathers, in time of war, fathers bury their sons. Herodotus (Greek)

[@jimreuss]

Never read that before. Very true, and sad.

[@beauchamphuberville1355]

thats quite the summation of this shit...x

[@DavidSmith-ss1cg]

Plato said "Only the Dead have seen the end of war."

[@tacticalfall4505]

@@DavidSmith-ss1cg unfortunately true

[@BOORAGG]

Only those that have won have the time to bury their sons.. Funerial rites do not exist for the exterminated.

[@1258fa]

I was a tank crew member in Vietnam. I tried to forget that war. That movie brought it all back to me. That war changed me into something that I didn't know was in me. At any rate, a fine movie.

[@GoSlash27]

I feel ya, brother. Desert Storm. The hard part wasn't the war itself, but what came after; piecing it back together into some semblance of a normal life. I'm glad we're both still here to share a little commiseration. We were both lucky to survive the aftermath when so many others didn't. To this day, I'm very kind and helpful to people I don't know simply because I know they need my help, even while being a very jaded and cynical man who hates humans in general. There's probably some character study in that that you can relate to. :D Take care and God bless, -Slashy

[@RealDavidChipman]

I really don’t want to come off as a dick, but weren’t tanks not used in Vietnam due to how thick the jungle’s were? Sorry if I am assuming something I need more educated on.

[@jacobwolf124]

​@@RealDavidChipman Its not hard to find footage and documents online of US tanks and their actions in South Vietnam. Its a stupid notion people today have that since vietnam was less than ideal tank terrain that the US simply didn't have any. The North Vietnamese had tanks too, but during the war American and N.Vietnamese tanks did not face one another to my knowledge. When the war was coming to a close and the US had withdrawn due to the peace accords, the N.Vietnamese violated the treaty and crossed the DMZ with their tanks and did fight South Vietnamese tanks.

[@thomaswentworth6433]

@@RealDavidChipman viet na is not all covered in jungle but yes there were tanks as Ive seen the remains of many with my own eyes

[@DavidSmith-ss1cg]

@@jacobwolf124 - Actually, the North Vietnamese beat the South Vietnamese army with a "European-style" attack of the type that the US Army officers had hoped to face(and defeat). The pictures of the Vietnamese army driving into Siagon in Soviet-built tanks are well known and familiar - and to the US military, a little mocking. I just missed that, and I'm glad.

[@josephdestaubin7426]

As the last survivors of World War II begin to pass away from old age, and their young children begin to join them, World War II is quickly becoming a genuine subject for historians , as opposed to the sociologists or screenwriters. One of the consequences of this is that trained historians have begun resorting the data that came out of the war. As I have begun sorting through some of this work it has occurred to me that the US soldiers all lived through the Great Depression, and that without this common experience the war would have had gone much differently. I mention this because of your statements about Norman's lack of experience with hunger and WarDaddy's great prewar personal loss. Norman is more or less from the 1%, whereas the others would have been intimately familiar with suffering long before the war.

[@davidlouis1068]

"Ideals are peaceful, history is violent".

[@maxsmodels]

A great line

[@wrwhiteal]

Ideals are peaceful, history is violent. Narratives vs reality. Liberals vs conservatives. History shows Liberal policies lead to war, purges, exterminations,

[@davidlouis1068]

@@wrwhiteal FACTS. Thats just LIBERAL policies, politics and ideaology. LEFTIST are even worse. They just destroy everything.

[@stephensgate1]

I’ve never forgotten that line. I had to let it sink in for several seconds until my mind truly understood what it meant. Since then, I’ve never forgotten it. Profound, but so true. -Stephen, Ohio 🇺🇸

[@davidlouis1068]

@@stephensgate1 I think its the most powerful line in the whole movie? Despite the fictional story and horrible historical accuracy for ww2 tank warfare...the movie hits home

[@ScreechingPossum]

The last line of the movie is haunting: "Hey, you're a hero buddy. You know that?" And Norman is left having to look back on the Fury, now a tomb of his crew as soldiers continue to march and drive past it. The war will go on without them, and their lives ended on the side of some dirt road and the hatch being closed to mark their unceremonious, unsung heroism. Yet it's Norman, the only survivor thanks to their (literal) sacrifices, that gets called the "hero". Since seeing the film, I thought it did great justice to some real war stories: war's full of lives suddenly cut short on some road, under a tree, or in a vehicle and seemingly forgotten...except maybe being a heavy burden to those who live to remember them

[@bhotaling1]

And Norman will now be assigned to another tank crew and the machine will grind on.

[@BOORAGG]

@@bhotaling1 Yes........'grind on' to victory.

[@edwardcorry9598]

That's very well said

[@MrAquaman2011]

Very good comment!

[@MissTeenageNothing]

Very well said

[@Tom_The_Cat]

10:11 That lady hanging "Ich wollte miene kinder nicht kampfen lassen" "I didn't want to let my children fight." The army likely wanted to recruit her young kids, like the ones seen earlier, and she was executed for refusing

[@Sawyer14]

@@05.ramirezzzz sometimes it’s best to not know what the germans actually said,trust me on that

[@synshenron798]

@@Sawyer14 oh believe me I know. Honestly idk if its me being desensitized or just not being able to truly grasp the severity of it but a lot of this stuff just doesn't make my skin crawl the way it should. I think its just that it doesn't feel real. Like it just seems so outrageous and so outlandish that its hard to truly grasp that these people ACTUALLY believed in it

[@jt95124]

My father was a combat infantryman in WW2 France and Germany, the same time as this. He seldom would say anything about the war, although I know he had nightmares. Once someone said something about "dead weight". He said, "Yes, people do weigh more when they are dead, I carried them." Once he talked about becoming good at dropping to the ground when he heard the whistle of incoming artillery. He claimed you could learn to drop faster than 32 ft/sec/sec. That's all he said, until late in life. The one time he did tell what it was like, late in life, he said the Germans would wait until there was an open field and set up a defense at the tree line. If there were tanks with them, they would form into two long lines and get behind the tanks as they advanced, firing at the muzzle flashes, and the Germans ran away as they approached to do it again at the next open field. He said that some of the dead Germans were just kids, not old enough to shave. Then he started crying and that was the end of war stories. Hollywood spent a lot of money to perfectly act out this scene, just for me? It was emotional for me when I saw it. It didn't just impact him. I was taught to clean the bathroom according to the US Army firld manual. "Every intervening vertical surface to a distance of six feet in every direction to the height of a man's waist ..." My mother came in and said. "Bob, he's just a kid, he's not a recruit." He was hard sometimes. But I can't complain, he was a good man. I was lucky to have him as a father. 4 kids, all have house and kids, no divorces, a schoolteacher, two nurses, and me (software engineer). Just like private Ryan coming back to the grave at the end. That was really my dad. Bonus story: He was born in South Dakota in 1911 and could remember the first time he saw electric lights, car, airplane, indoor plumbing, etc. Native Americans in loincloths lived in teepees at the edge of town. Went to school in horse drawn buggy (sleigh in winter). Graduated high school in 1929, some timing. Was in national guard in the 1930s in the cavalry, with horses. We have home movies of him practicing cavalry charges. When he was sent to boot camp in 1943 (they didn't credit the national guard) they took him to the rifle range. He started correcting the sergeant and offering suggestions. The sergeant was not pleased and tried to embarrass him. Hands him an M-1 with full clip and has them pull up the farthest target, 300 yards. He shot eight bulls' eyes, the whole clip, what the sergeant didn't know was he was on the Wisconsin state champion marksmanship team and had gone to Camp Perry (NRA national matches). The next day, CO called him in. He thought he was in trouble, but he said, "Effective immediately, you are no longer a boot, you are an instructor. After the war, he went into the air force and became am electronics tech. We lived at Edwards AFB, the first part of "The Right Stuff" was shot in a house just like the one I lived in. There was a kid on a bike in one scene, it could have been me. After he got out, he went to work for Lockheed at the skunk works on some secret plane, then transferred to someplace "out of state" where he went on Sunday night and returned Friday night. We were told to refer to the place as "the area". Leter I found out it was the SR-71 and area 51. And by the way, I do not believe there were aliens there. I worked as a summer intern at the flight test data processing center on the testing of the F-15. The scene in Fury where they played out the story he told me makes me cry, for so many reasons. I wonder if anyone will ever read this. What a life he lived, and me too, although not so dramatic. That's a whole other story including sitting in the UCLA computer lab next to a grad student who was on darpanet. He was typing a text file, which he ftp'd to someone in U Ill Champaign-Urbana. He put it in a directory named "inbox" - you know it as internet and email, but this was 1974. I played Asteroids on the first graphics terminal there in the room with the first router. I guess that's more than enough. Thank you for reading, not sure it matters if anyone does.

[@donkloos9078]

I read your story, it was very good. Thanks for sharing. My dad was in Patton's (3rd?) army in a tank destroyer unit in the Battle of the Bulge and liberation of the main concentration camp for jews, name eludes me for the moment. His firsthand photos of the camp showed the horrors, almost incomprehensible. He would not speak of his experiences and once when I pressed him, out of genuine interest, he just snapped at me "There was a lot of dead men lying around...are you happy now?" That concluded war discussions pretty much, but he did say Patton drove by him in his jeep as they were marching along, he got frostbite in his feet, and lost part of his hearing when a joker fired their tank destroyer gun as they were standing under the barrel, as a joke. He was trained at Berkeley as a Russian interpreter before shipping out. He lived out a great life with five kids and wife who recently passed at 96. He was a man of action, consideration, and decisiveness, we wrote on his tombstone. Theirs was a great generation of Americans.

[@nickwood1062]

It matters, and thanks for sharing. I never served and definitely regret it. Nevertheless I am extremely proud of our veterans and our military. I think more people need to realize and appreciate everything our country has done. Anyway, Happy New Year and God bless.

[@MechanicalMooCow]

It matters to me. Thank you for your post. I hope you are safe and happy.

[@202reece5]

Was your Father an Officer or senior NCO? He would be 33-34 if he fought in France and Germany during ww2.

[@siasleopard2668]

Thanks for sharing. It was an amazing story

[@GenScinmore]

Great video! Well spoken and well researched. My hats off to you!

[@i-dislike-handles]

A checkmark with few likes, that's rare

[@fortuneherico2692]

I love your videos! My favorite are the "HOW TO GROW" series!

[@maxsmodels]

thanks

[@jameslawrence5849]

How is pet Russian doing

[@sbcburgos2300]

@@maxsmodels Your analysis is spot on!

[@madprofessor1]

While under the tank, Norman is awakened by a horse walking by, echoing the beginning of the film.

[@smehskeh]

I took that to be a message from wardaddy, since he loved horses, as if to wake him up and let him know he is safe now.

[@avnmech]

This brought me to tears. It reminds me of the catharsis that I went through when I deployed, the only difference was that I was a Sergeant, and could not hesitate, it was my job walk my soldiers through the valley of the shadow of death, and get them out the other side. With the exception of not being able to shoot like Norman initially couldn't, I had a very strong survival instinct, but I do feel, and have seen with my own eyes the metamorphosis that you have described in this video, only I had never had words put to it, and I couldn't, or wouldn't be able to describe it myself if I had to. Thank you for putting words to this.

[@Jake-tw8qr]

he missed the best part of Grady's "this is war" line! he finishes it by asking, "can you feel it?" and that little addition adds so much to the depth of the scene.

[@josephdestaubin7426]

That's the best line if the movie. Also', when Grady expresses utter internal agony as he decides to stay and fight and die.

[@josephfelder33]

The other great line is "Ideals are peaceful, history is violent." I actually use that line with my own troops.

[@wwb16]

I hated his character for that

[@turk88]

Wardaddy was not planning to return, he wanted to die there, blaming himself for the death of Rose and his younger ( and likely only ) sibling. The certain death in defending the crossroads was perfect for him. As for the rest, this was them completing their journey together, one way or the other.

[@dfoos]

As I understood it, his younger brother was also killed in the accident (which was caused by Don's driving heavily drunk). I believe in the DVD it was mentioned that his little brother, whom he blames himself for dying, was also named Norman. Which is why, when they are first introduced, there was a very long and awkward pause as Wardaddy sizes Norman up after he hears his name.

[@kirkli1073]

That’s why this part should never have been deleted. It explained why Wardaddy never hesitated to decide to die at the cross road. The surprise was that Norman was the first of the rest crew members to decide to stay fighting with certain death. What made Norman do that was anyone’s guess. Norman was a changed man in a very short period of time by going through everything in one day. How the war can change people is absolutely amazing!

[@aerlial360]

Phenomenal job. I'm a World War II buff. I've been all over Normandy and other battle sites in the European Theater. My Baptism into this love and hobby and even obsession was Saving Private Ryan. Fury, to me, is the second-best modern WW2 movie to Private Ryan.

[@tSp289]

Try 'Der Untergang'/'Downfall' if you haven't already. Everyone knows the meme from it but it's actually one of the most authentic WW2 films ever shot.

[@Vixis6]

You must have good taste what's your top 5

[@tsarbomba01]

Have you only seen two WW2 movies? 🤷‍♀️

[@aerlial360]

@@tsarbomba01 Did you not catch the word modern?

[@tsarbomba01]

@@aerlial360 I wasn’t burning you, I was burning the movie 😉

[@notjaller]

Now this, is how you break down a movie Not judging it by its inaccuracies that come from the fact that it's an interpretation not an accurate retailing, but by analyzing the elements the author used to tell his story

[@docswatchbox8321]

Outstanding video. As a Navy Corpsman (medical personnel assigned to duty with the US Marine Corps) and veteran of two combat tours to Iraq...the horrors of war and what it can do to a human being are forever burned into my mind, heart and soul. You saw exactly what I saw when viewing this film. People will miss the message when they are looking at only the technical issues. War is as close to hell as it gets here on God’s green Earth.

[@davidlouis1068]

BEST JOB I EVER HAD !

[@thedarkwolf9423]

(Takes swig) best job I ever had...

[@davidlouis1068]

@@thedarkwolf9423 DAmn BOy YoUs a FIghTin, FUcKiN, DRiNkiN' MAchine aint ya?

[@bundeswehr7676]

..best job I’ve ever had.

[@stevemiller7433]

A solid, comprehensive analysis of the characters.

[@jackfanning7952]

Horseshit!

[@Trve_Kvlt]

@@jackfanning7952 I'd like you see you do better.

[@jackfanning7952]

@@Trve_Kvlt I don't want to. I have other interests.

[@notbot8830]

@@jackfanning7952 like what? Trolling comment sections?

[@igbotimehopper64yearsago46]

@@jackfanning7952 so why where you here

[@johnvonherbert3943]

Take it from a bloody frontline Marine Veteran, this analysis is well done. Thank You.

[@Tonetwisters]

Thank you for your service. Don't forget to make Jesus a MAJOR part of your recovery ...

[@thatguy22441]

@@Tonetwisters The funny thing about war is that some people find religion, and others lose it. I knew one dude who went from being devout Christian to the Church of Odin. Let's be honest, the New Testament and everything Jesus taught is irreconcilable with war and nationalism; the two are COMPLETELY different. Take if from an Iraq veteran (I deployed three times as an infantryman, right in the middle of the fight) and someone who has actually read the Bible, I agree that your analysis is very good.

[@jameseaton4593]

I couldn't agree more. Deep,thorough, useful for ANY level vet or historian. His central motive is character explication. I thought he got it in the yellow ring. Dead on. In a real sense, " Fury" is a very good " love story." It epitomizes the explanations of why soldiers fight. No flags...no mom and apple pie....just the guys on either side of you. That's all it is."

[@thatguy22441]

@@jameseaton4593 Sometimes it's not even about the dudes on either side of you. Sometimes it's all about survival. You kill them or they will kill you. While I absolutely hated some of the people on my side, I would rather win and live with them than lose and die with them. Irrespective of how you feel about some of your own, it's always better to be on the winning side in that situation.

[@jameseaton4593]

@@thatguy22441,well, to be honest, sounds like you had much more acute and sustained action than I did. I only got the occasional rocket. Big difference. My beloved father-in-law on the other hand was an Iwo vet and he was very devoted to his team. I can't deny the truth of what you write because everyone sees life through a unique set of eyes. It doesn't matter...anyone who wore green starts with a leg up with me. Best,

[@tygrenvoltaris4782]

I love this film yet people hate it cuz they only watch tank scenes and want it to be so realistic the point is this movie is incredible in portraying characters and Its environment

[@carlambroson8872]

This is a great movie! Sure the tank on tank scene was not accurate for an Easy eight, but if it was a normal Sherman with 75 gun it would have been spot on. Regardless it’s an excellent movie!

[@macducati2304]

Did they have hairdresser's salons inside American tanks those days? It was more of a comedy than a war film.

[@marmalaterjones4526]

Ha Ha! If Fury is a excellent movie, I'd love to know what you consider to be a terrible movie?

[@tygrenvoltaris4782]

@@marmalaterjones4526 Sequel trilogy Most marvel movies (except iron man 1, captain America 2, civil war, iw) DCEU films (joker exception) Idk there's more

[@marmalaterjones4526]

Not that much of a difference between those movies and Fury in terms of visual style and acting, story etc. Hollywood has been getting progressively more generic and formulaic with their product. Movies nowadays just seem to blur into one another.

[@markpaul8178]

I was a tanker for 12 yrs.This brought back a whole lot of memories.

[@danielaramburo7648]

Thanks for your service. I do not agree with most of the wars we go to, but I condemn the politicians not the soldiers.

[@aaronm8143]

Thank you for your service. My brother is a sonar tech on the USS Kidd, he’s been in the navy for 9 years now. People don’t realize how important our soldiers, and sailors are. Your sacrifices are not in vain.

[@markpaul8178]

@@aaronm8143 Thank you Aaron.

[@roycelabor4339]

Great analysis Sir! I’m a retired Army tanker and you absolutely nailed it with the description of how tank crews bond and interact.

[@Sickofsociety1]

I also love this movie and I don't care what anyone else says about it. Being a combat vet myself, I get all of what Wardaddy is about.

[@EddiePaints]

Great analysis, The DUI crash that killed his girl, killed his kid brother too, also named Norman! (I think this is why he gave Ellison a chance.). Best Job I ever had!

[@honeybadger6755]

I feel like this guys voice could narrate almost any movie

[@Coyote-wm5op]

This movie is great. I remember telling a war story to family after having drinks that was supposed to be funny. They didn’t find it funny at all. Then I felt like Gordo.

[@prisonerofthehighway1059]

Speaking as a soldier and an ex cop, never talk to civvies when you’re drunk lol. You won’t be invited to the next party.

[@edl617]

Civilians never will understand what goes on in the mind of a soldier or sailor that has seen death

[@chumccurry1765]

That's right.

[@captainjohnh9405]

@@prisonerofthehighway1059 "You won’t be invited to the next party." For some of us, that is the goal.

[@silverpairaducks]

@@captainjohnh9405 reasons I don't talk cars to assholes at parties

[@tassie7325]

To me, that closing scene where the camera pulls up from above to reveal the carnage is a classic as it had all of the hallmarks of an ancient historical battle - The Battle of Thermopylae.

[@jeffdunn7474]

I heard at the end where Wardaddy gets on the tank and shoots with the .50, its a tribute to Audie Murphy!

[@johnbeauvais3159]

The scene where the young LT is firing the 50 on the top of the tank is a nod to the actor’s father, Clint Eastwood, in the movie “Kelly’s Heroes”

[@sugandhakohli]

Can't believe somebody discussing one of my favourite characters from one of my favourite war movies. Thanks.

[@sartainja]

Superb job. My respect for Pitt as an actor increased after this role where he did not play just a pretty face with a body. He really step up and played the hardened Sargent.

[@MisterRlGHT]

huh huh huh

[@K37-h1z]

Pitt has always been a good actor. Watch legends of the fall, or fight club, literally anything he's in, he is a talented actor, this performance was leftover from inglorious bastards. (Awful movie) Seargent is spelled incorrectly. Not to pile on but seriously.

[@smehskeh]

You should take a look at his other movies if you haven't. When I was younger, I thought the same thing of him since every girl I knew would fawn over him. Then I started to realize every movie I would see him in, he did an incredible job. Seven, Fight Club, Ocean's movies, Troy, Moneyball, Killing Them Softly, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, this movie. He is one of my favorite actors.

[@horizonchaser6030]

I've watched this movie several times just for the type of Analysis given here. With no second or third person narration it leaves the viewer to examine acutely the characters or perhaps themselves if prior Combat veterans. In this particular movie I've never entertained either the Historic and or technical flaws, that's not what this movie is about for me. I've watched perhaps 3 times for being a relatively newer movie. I don't know why I go back, I'm either trying to Repel or accept what I see in myself. Semper Fi

[@katfrog98]

Thank you. I recall when I first discovered that I was the monster: the look on normal people's faces when I told a story, just routine anecdotes, was either disbelief, or horror. I stopped talking about work, except with other monsters. Now, decades later, the monster sits patiently inside its crypt. We are friends, I have a rich life, but I don't know which one is really me.

[@howardclegg6497]

Totally with you on this. I suppose it is and has always been like this for people like you and I. I feel sorry for those of us that have been destroyed by "the monster". There are those amoung us that willingly open the cyrpt door. Even those of us who are at peace with it must always be concerned that the monster is patient and looking to steal the keys and unleash itself. Guard your keys well my friend.

[@luciferdeuce1]

You are both. You have seen a bit of hell on earth. Others have no idea. But they're about to...

[@GoSlash27]

God damn... This thread turned into a "vets' anonymous" session :D You are not alone.

[@F4FWildcat]

James Jones authored among others books: "From Here To Eternity" and "The Thin Red Line". Long before I knew him as "that" author, I picked up a book he wrote in 1975, "WWII A Chronicle of Soldering". This book was Jones' story. I begins where he entered WWII. That would be at Sunday morning breakfast 7 December, 1941 at Schofield Army Barracks. The book features works of art from artists of the period (all except for the first image) intermingled with Jones' story of his life in WWII. He began at Pearl Harbor. Then made at least one operation in the Pacific, was wounded and after recovery, was transferred to the European theater. What brought his story to mind was your excellent review of "Fury". Jones slowly breaks down for his readers, the evolution of a soldier. Jones maintains and I think he is right. That a soldier does not truly become effective until he comes to grips with his mortality. Further, he must realize he is already dead. He is the walking dead, waiting for that bullet. Then and only then, does he truly become an effective soldier. In a sense, death and its fear, no long holds power over him. Spears mentioned this in a scene from "The Band of Brothers". Jones didn't stop there. He then delved into the difficulties faced by those same soldiers that awake one day and realize... they have survived. Thus begins another evolution, just as difficult in many cases, as the first. An evolution no less important to complete. The evolution to cold, calculating soldier/killer to gentlemen civilian.

[@JoeA-j8i]

I didn’t think this review would have me so emotional.

[@tailedgates9]

If I was Norman, I would tell stories about this broken and battered crew who took me in during a war and treated me with such tough love and care. I would never EVER forget about them, and I would cherish every single freaking memory I had of them and being in that tank. Best job I ever had. ❤ ❤

[@Carnivore__]

I’d imagine you’d be so scared you wouldn’t ever speak of the war again

[@kebabmuncher361]

What a great way to tell a 2 hour movie in 20 minutes. A great voice to go with telling about it. I sat through this whole thing

[@maddog4u31757]

I told myself I was only going to watch a minute or two (I REALLY need to be asleep right now).....and here I am...19 minutes in and going to finish this. Damn it for great YT content.

[@cybergothika6906]

Finally someone made it clear that the movie is an allegory, while angry kids only tough behind a keyboard complains about historical inaccuracy.

[@bananabong4911]

Something to add to the scene with the two german women after capturing the town: In the deleted scene, where Wardaddy tells Norman how he lost his girlfriend Rose and his little brother, Wardaddy mentions his brithers name: Norman Bible, Gordo and Coonass are upset because Wardaddy for a moment tried to live a live he could not live after Rose and Norman died. They are upset because he, for a moment, tries to live an alternate reality where Rose and Norman are still alive, where Wardaddy was never forced to join the army, where their friend never met them. They feels betrayed because their friend would throw away everything they went through together to live a normal live without them.

[@rc59191]

Fury doesn't deserve the hate history snobs and wehraboos give it. It captures almost all aspects and experiences of war into a single day and shows just how brutal and cruel war is.

[@dukecraig2402]

100% agree, I can't stand all the know-it-all's that just want to run their mouths all over it because of the tanks used in it, as if the producer's of the movie have the ability to go down to Crazy Larry's WW2 tank and airplane rental and were too lazy and stupid to pick exactly the right tanks to put in the movie, like that kind of stuff is laying around all over the place to pick from. They're basically just big mouths who use it as an excuse to try to brag about how much they know about WW2 trivia, it's like I've told a bunch of them "Well then why don't you just go out and make a better movie about WW2 and show em all how it's done". The fact is it's amazing that all these years later there's anything around at all to use in these movies and they have to spend an incredible amount of time and money to put all of it together, not to mention the cooperation of the museums and collectors that loan the equipment out. Proof that you just can't make some people happy.

[@derpynerdy6294]

They only watch for tank to tank or got pissed because their loving SS got shredded

[@cynicalfox190]

@@derpynerdy6294 Jesus Christ your all so salty people are pissed because even with the equipment they had they got it so wrong. Most of the action scenes in the movie had no grasp on realism and were there to push the story, this annoyed people who were less interested about the story and more about the historical side. Both sides have merit as each wanted their own version of the movie. The fact is that I dislike some of the aspects of the story side of the movie as well as the historical side, pushing the idea that you had to view the enemy as less than human and that the German soldiers were in fact less than human has always irritated me. The German soldier that was executed after the tanks assisted the infantry against the AT guns for example what the Americans did was a war crime but the movie still comes across as they did it for a good reason or that it was necessary.

[@derpynerdy6294]

@@cynicalfox190 SS are garbage I would slap the sh*t out of you for blasphemy

[@cdjhyoung]

I would suppose that the vast majority of the audience for a World War II tank movie are more interested in the blowing up scenes than weepy 'boy grows up' story line. Too bad for them. I'm the son of a WW II vet that suffered PTSD most of the rest of his life. He was Norman. All he wanted from life was to be left alone on his farm.

[@bige8397]

Nicely done. I love this movie. I don't know how many times I have watched it. After watching this vid, the next viewing will be even better. Fury is a classic.

[@adamgilligan3688]

" many soldiers will return from war but none can ever go home"

[@robertclark1669]

"There can be no sentimentality for this was total war" that was the rawest line I've ever heard 22:49

[@sillyone52062]

Outstanding analysis!

[@Wild-Dad]

That was an amazing narration/description of this movie. I've never seen it but after hearing your story, I feel like I've watch it a hundred times. Excellent, man, just excellent. You really have a possible future in voice overs, narration and other like work. It really was impressive. You did this at keast a couple of months before I came across your model company vids. Your voice has a depth and range. It came out again when you did your "War of the Worlds" vid. I can't say "amazing" enough. Good night and take care

[@ronfriedman8740]

Beautifully stated analysis of an incredible war film. The pieced together stills from the film and subdued music adds to a riveting examination of each character. Excellent job!

[@jaredrubin7843]

such a great movie that needs more recognition, alot more.....perfect cast...each character played their role to a T. GREAT FILMS like this get overlooked so often....its disappointing.....good review max

[@bsellers711]

I wonder if the girl in wardaddy's "sweetheart grip" on his 1917 Colt is the one he lost in the car accident? Sorry I commented before I finished the video

[@stephendavidson2874]

Great analysis...just a little short on the apartment scene. Holding the crew together was war daddy’s job even at the expense of the woman’s fright. One more thing...thanks for the two explanations. Why it was ok for Norman to shoot the first German, and the burns on war daddy’s back therefore his death wish.

[@taylorwilliams4179]

As a lover of this movie, this was a well done analysis of the film. Thank you. Sound was really nice as well, as Im hearing impaired sometimes.

[@NiloWafer19]

Thank you for a Fury review that comes from this angle. I always think there's a lot more to these stories than the technical, and I always knew the tone Fury sets is a lot deeper than 'edgy for edginess's sake'. Human angles of war movies are what make the brutality into something more than gratuitous violence.

[@Rikki0]

From a Vietnam combat Marine Sgt. I give kudos and a thank you. I felt exactly the way you do about both the technical aspects and the character development phases. Technically and tacticly the movie has many flaws, but I hold those irrelevant to the character development phase, which you hit spot on. Not a bit of criticism here, just a heartfelt thank you for letting people know how a war works on a man in a real life war situation. Or at least, coming as close as is possible without the always true and relevant "You had to be there". Thanks again, and Semper Fi. 5th Marines 2/1. An Hoa River Basin/Arizona Territory, Quang Nam Province, Republic of South Vietnam '69-71.

[@memescrublord9614]

I think it’s a nice note that wardaddy was drunk when he killed his girlfriend, and brother(who’s name was Norman) in a car accident. He hadn’t drank since till just before he died

[@bungoburger9498]

One of things I like most about this movie is it doesn’t have that Hollywood sentimentality for characters or the tank, the battle happened the allied forces found it, moved on. Best way to visually describe how the war (or any for that matter) went, people didn’t stop to give respect or ponder what happened, they saw it and moved to the next firefight

[@josephfelder33]

This movie catches a lot of unwarranted flak. It's not meant to be a documentary. What this film captures better than any other is the dynamic of a combat crew, and the stripping of the veneer of civilization of a young Soldier. The dynamic of the crew of Fury, the armor platoon, the foot-sore dog-faced infantry squads and the war-weary Company Commander were strikingly accurate. The dialogue was superb, and I use some of the lines from the movie when making points, such as "Ideals are peaceful, history is violent." I appreciated the analysis you provided, and agree with what really stood out to me. Maybe it's our worldview. Your background is Infantryman, mine is Medic. I have been to war (2 deployments to Iraq, and DMZ patrol in Korea) and this is one of my favorites specifically for how it captured high-pressure combat team interaction.

[@sidekickerbrohoof9584]

Bro that last monologue was something Indy Neidell would be have said on one of his series. That was some damn good writing.

[@Juandinggong]

I was sad when Normans girls died in air strike. That scene broke my heart

[@abhisheksatpathy8400]

Kyu b londe?

[@ericb2501]

Not an airstrike, a shelling.

[@Juandinggong]

@@abhisheksatpathy8400 Speak English man

[@abhisheksatpathy8400]

@@Juandinggong apun Hindi hi bolega!!

[@Juandinggong]

@@abhisheksatpathy8400 Haha

[@booster5329]

Good job brugh, despite all the armchair battle vets and their criticisms of the movie, the protagonist analysis is dead on brugh!

[@AliceInPantera]

Great video! I’m glad you were able to look past the “Hollywood fluff” complaints and focus on the overall meaning. Not many people were able to do that and this movie fell to the wayside because of that. It’s a damn shame because I thought it had a very unique way of taking you through the closing days of the war. The character development was basically the main purpose of the movie and I think they did a fantastic job

[@jamesalvarado3961]

"The first casualty of war is innocence" -SL Buckley

[@bardslinger]

A brilliant analysis of the film and its characters. Beautifully written and narrated.

[@PacificEgg]

Movie made me cry so hard at the end, the whole battle i was cryimg and cheering, found myself tearimg up just during this breakdown

[@josephlafrance9881]

me too

[@devinmarbury4967]

It's heavy. Very emotional film. I shed a couple of tears too.

[@superproducercbiz]

I’m literally sick with covid on my bed watching this. For the duration of this video I actually did not even remember I was sick as a dog. Thanks for that and God bless ✝️

[@vancfltxva]

Most impressive analysis of character analysis of movie Fury; as a ex-soldier and former English teacher it is an appropriate source for teaching the realities of war and the intimacy of soldiers on the battlefield.

[@biochem70]

This was an excellent movie and character analysis. Better than 99% of what's on YT. I hope you do more.

[@RasEli03]

I feel bad for norman. I feel bad for everyone in war

[@mbryson2899]

Captain Max, that was the best analysis I have ever seen. Thank you.

[@gringopaul3423]

Thank you for your analysis. I watched Fury twice and now I need to see it again, as I appreciate more of what the movie is about. Good job.

[@JonnyHolms]

This was excellent Max,Thank you as you and the story of heroes like this that saved western civilization brought me to the brink of tears.

[@dustydave2819]

very well done analysis made a lot of sense, I will see this film through different eyes.

[@99sporttruck]

You have no idea how much I needed this!!!

[@DocM.]

Number 1: *Thank you for your service* 💜 And 2: This was such an awesome video, great job! Informative, entertaining, and really psychologically stimulating! I love analysis videos and I want to see more of your work!!!

[@MrZauberelefant]

Thank you for reading the movie like you did. Yes, it's a silly thing from a historical perspective, but as a war story it's likely as real as it gets. The dinner scene was particularly haunting, so much going on with these men trying to behave civilized, clingiong to their old ways.

[@markwake3727]

Really interesting analysis, I hadn't seen them as a 'family' and yes that makes perfect sense as we can relate it to our own, however limited, experiences of life

[@hoot1141]

I’m really glad I stumbled across this video. Your analysis is spot on. I’m so glad to find another veteran who is also an intellectual. I wish the content of your analysis wasn’t so lost on so many. This is exactly what this movie is ACTUALLY about. Thank you for this.

[@markwillies7309]

Very good analysis of Fury.I must admit I get caught up in the literal watching of movies and don't really see these nuances.I guess Norman was a similar vehicle to the scrawny bloke who we first saw carrying a typewriter in Saving Private Ryan. Fury was also the first movie from start to finish where the American weren't the virtuous cookie cutters that are in a lot of WW2 movies.There were glimpses in Private Ryan but on the whole there was a moral centredness throughout. I did 2 years National Service in the SADF and there is bugger all noble about war.

[@indycarlegion]

I always did like this movie. I, myself, am in the US military. Current at Fort Hood after returning from my sixth deployment. I felt the tension in the movie. What really brought it home was the look in Wardaddy's eyes when he told Norman not to surrender. Scenes like that, (another one is when the Soldier was killed in Private Ryan by the German as he slowly plunged his knife into his chest and said "shhhhhhhh." Great review. Glad I stumbled into your site.

[@larryashmore489]

It’s Emma,not Ella. I’ve seen the movie many times. Your character analysis is spot on.

[@maxsmodels]

oops

[@HandsAreBlazingRed]

Second favorite war movie behind the greatest in my opinion, Black Hawk Down, excellent video I enjoyed it thoroughly very well made.

[@greysongreyhater7667]

I really appreciate your analysis. You have a great speaking voice and am happy I found this review. Thank you.

[@maxsmodels]

thanks

[@arielgatti8975]

I enjoy the commentary as much as the movie. In fact, the commentary complemented the film very well.

[@catfunt5583]

Really really good analysis. Helped me immensely with my exam

[@bigbrosgsxr]

You never know how good a video is until you realize that 23 minutes has just gone by and you've not noticed it. What a good video. A++ When watching movies I really get into them and seeing someone break down a character study like that is great.

[@Tonetwisters]

Best scene is when War Daddy confesses his relationship with God, to Bible.

[@todistgut]

That's when we find out he believes in fairy tales :D

[@todistgut]

@Cael Berglund Sure it is... tell it to the fanatics and the victims of fanatic killings in the name of God.

[@iliadnetfear2586]

Although you could say that was because Socialism and Communism were religion all their own, or that the tenants of Socialism and Communism apposed religion, but these men had personal reason to hate the church before joining such groups. Mainly drunk fathers, but I guess everyone has a reason.

[@todistgut]

@Cael Berglund You are the only one that mentioned vikings here, Idk where the vikings killing people came from? :D

[@Gwestytears]

Religion is ok.

[@pauldinda5831]

I want to comment... but I can't, so disturbing, so true--vis-a-vis my experiences--so upsetting... As I just wrote a friend: Aristotle was right: There's something deep, dark and evil in every man. And as a Greek, Thusydides--sorry to be a pin-head here--said and the title of a military historian, Victor Davis Hansen's book, war is "The Father of Us All." Sad, depressing... Was Ernest Hemingway right? "Humanity is forever damned and doomed"? Seems so with our "national security interests" always under seige in Viet Nam, in Iraq, in Syria, in Afghanistan. When if ever will we LEARN... or just destined ever to let history repeat and repeat and repeat itself. Madness!

[@mojoi_iv_v7_i975]

Very well done video. I was so looking forward to this movie before it came out. After seeing it, I really didn't like it. I'm not even sure why now all these years later, but after each subsequent viewing, my appreciation for the movie grows each time and for a lot of the reasons illustrated in this video. Well done.

[@ilikeflowers1380]

I am 60 ,, Never served, ... Thank you for explaining the movie, You touched my Heart. For ALL the Men and Women that fought passed and present . I take my hat off to you and PRAY GOD touches your heart.... THANK YOU..

[@johnmccloskey3660]

Great video Sir. I was fascinated about the backstory of WarDaddy. How did he come to be fluent in German? What fueled the hatred for especially the SS? There are some special nuggets and details that you point out that would be lost to the naked eye. Thank you again. Semper Fi.

[@sorryociffer]

My bet, given that he also sports an SS undercut haircut, is that he is 1st Gen American, born from German Immigrant parents...

[@JimmyRichardsonIII]

I don't know what I expected when I started this, but this video exceeded all expectations. Bravo, sir.

[@imaXkillXya]

I was in a tank battalion when this movie came out in the base theater. The whole unit went to go watch it during a work day. The word in the street was that we were watching it for free. The tankers were loud during the movie. When it finished we were told that we had to pay up $2 each. That's the Marine Corps in a nutshell.

[@steezydan8543]

and you all complied without resistance, such is the military way

[@jayzrat]

Excellent analysis of the film. I hope they release a director’s cut somewhere down the road. Or have they already?

[@colinmackenzie6277]

This movie gripped me with its haunting themes and score. You did a really great analysis....I could watch this movie 5x back to back, and still find nuances...touching, and a tribute to armed forces.

[@СтивСкотт]

There's a look of finality that a man carries with him forever after having earned it. Some men recognize it in other men when they see it. We know what and where it comes from. ...and then life goes on.

[@johnswoveland9158]

As a person who does depot level work on war machines I'll say this: Your commentary on this was spot on. This was not a technical military movie, it was about the bonds and horrors of war and you described it beautifully. Your comments about the tank going tp depot struck me. I'll still rebuild. It's what I do but I'll need to digest the meat of that statement.

[@dynapez]

great editing job, alot of good insights that i never knew, great work

[@photomatev1120]

I started an account on KZbin just to be able to comment on this. I’ve never commented on a video before, but this one was so good I had to. Those who nitpick the movie (or your review of it) are really just being pedantic. They’ve never been to war. We who have, know how it takes away your innocence and idealism; especially about yourself. And those of us who’ve lead others in war know what sacrifice it to be responsible for the lives of others. We “get it.” A “Wardaddy” isn’t there to be liked. War isn’t an adventure, a game or an intellectual exercise and movies like this are trying to explain that to civilians. You watch it to gain insight on human nature and experience, not to show how smart you are about military esoterica. If I wasn’t retired from the military, I’d consider using the film and your review as a case study for leadership in an NCO course.

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

Fantastic characters that are well acted. I love this film for that reason alone.

[@stefaniecosme4774]

I know that many WWII Enthusiasts, which I’m one as well, ripped apart Fury, pointing out all of the inaccuracies, especially when it came to the main tank battle- Personally though, I Loved and Enjoyed it- Well, as much as you could Love and Enjoy a movie that depicted Such a Devastating time in our history- Perhaps this is bc I’m a woman and a Mom of 2 young men, but I greatly appreciated each of the main characters and their development- Which, it made me appreciate and revere the Incredibly Brave and Selfless young men of WWII even more- It also reminded me of the extraordinary loss of so many men for our Freedom and all of the Heartbroken Moms and Dads as a result of it- Anyways, I know this video posted 5 years ago and the creator will probably never see this post, But, incase you do, Thank You for highlighting the Great aspects of Fury and for posting your Awesome video!

[@dagann1]

It is a good movie. In fact, one of Pitt's best. That, and "Legends of the Fall."

[@JohnSmith-mk1rj]

Jeez...Legends of the Fall is such a sad film. Pitt's character loses everything a piece at a time in that movie. When his wife is killed by a ricochet towards the end, all I could do is shake my head. What a raw deal he got in that movie.

[@dagann1]

@@JohnSmith-mk1rj Agreed. It is a sad movie. But, still a good movie. Personally, I think the writer of the script did a fine job in creating the personalities of each brother. In fact, the whole story was exceptional. As far as Pitt's character, he did a fine portrayal of a man who would never bend to society's expectations if it meant losing his sovereignty. Although rare, there are a few examples in our history known today. One was Jesse James and others too such as Geronimo, Wild Bill Hickok, and Wyatt Earp. Maybe Pitt's character was meant to represent that aspect we all feel during our lives to never allow our spirit to fail regardless of the conditions life throws at us. All too often, the history of Hollywood writers delivered a story where the "good guy" overcomes all challenges, intact, and wins the girl of his dreams to ride into the sunset. But, this film was exceptional in portraying the hard realities during that time period. All three boys had so much potential and a gifted father that raised them to be smart and strong. Each of the brothers had their own personalities and attitudes and often quarreled as brothers do. But, they also respected each other once one was facing an outside threat. Only a woman of extraordinary beauty and class could cause a division between both brothers, but it wasn't her fault. She suffered as a result of the circumstances. Personally, I find no fault among the family members and I can see how certain events and situations can and often do in bringing chaos and tragedy in the course of people's lives. In other words, they delivered a film that is true art. It made you think and "feel" the content. Sad, yes. But, represents much of the same many families endure during their lives. And, we find life doesn't come with rose bushes. But, what do you think? Personally, I like discussing art with others.

[@JohnSmith-mk1rj]

@@dagann1 Honestly, it's been so long since I've seen the film that the details escape me. It's one of those movies that I watched on cable and I hated it the first time (but only cuz Brad Pitt was such a pretty boy in that era and Legends seemed like such an obvious push for an Oscar. Strangely, this was mirrored by DiCaprio so many years later, it seems like). I ended up watching it again somehow and I liked it, and all in all I think I watched it like 4 or 5 times... ...but that was 20 or so years ago. I remember one brother dies in WWI, and Pitt snaps and goes after German scalps. The girl ends up blowing her brains out, dad has a stroke and eventually dies... But I can't remember what happens to the other brother for the life of me now I suppose it deserves a rewatch, but it really is a depressing movie (albeit an epic journey to engage with), and at this point in my life I try to avoid media that's going to affect me negatively. Like, why do this to myself? That kinda thing. On the flip side of that, I became a Brad Pitt fan after that movie, so that's something. Although I'd hafta say that my favorite movie of his was fight club, and I enjoyed his portrayal of Achilles in Troy. Boy did he die unfairly in that movie. Shot in the back from a safe distance by a wuss who won't even fight the guy whose girl he stole. Well...it wasn't Homer but it was a fun movie. But Legends made me a fan, and I've pretty much watched everything he's done since then.

[@dagann1]

@@JohnSmith-mk1rj The forgotten brother saves both Christin and his father by helping to gun down the corrupt sheriff and mob-men there to kill Christin. After Christin leaves for good after he asked his brother to raise his children, which of course he agreed., his brother, father, ranch-hand, and the Indian friend disposed of the bodies downstream. Then obviously his brother resumes his life as a public servant. And, Christin spent the rest of his life in the wilderness as a mountain man. Again, suggesting family blood is stronger above all else. Back in my college days, I took a film appreciation course. An intro into the world of Hollywood. We watched many of the classics and discussed how and why they set the bar above others. Actually, I enjoyed the class and learned more than the average fan in the production of American movies. One thing I recently realized is so many films have been manufactured. In fact, I figured enough film in movie making could go to the moon and orbit it five times and back...lol. The point is billions of films where only a few are worth watching. Therefore, I love criticizing movies, and due to the fact I'm choosy to a fault, I tend to find a few films worthy to be claimed as true classics. Maybe you and I can discuss other films that we both may agree are worthy. If not here, maybe in Email. I'm retired and not too busy...lol. Anyway, think about it and let me know. If you are too busy, no problem. I understand and can find others to consider it.

[@JohnSmith-mk1rj]

@@dagann1 sir, I'm always happy to discuss films. 😊 I always wondered if one studied film in like, college or 'film school,' or whatever, would they make you watch stuff like On the Waterfront and Streetcar Named Desire (Brando was SO GOOD), or maybe Sergio Leone (his directorial style was so amazing), or Kirusawa films (am I spelling that wrong? I probably am. The Seven Samurai guy)... Gosh, there's just so many great movies, directors and actors from back in the day. I'm sorry to say that I really, really have a hard time finding things to enjoy these days. Especially when it comes to the big studio movies. I enjoyed the most recent Disney thing. I think it was called Raza and the Last Dragon? That was actually really good. Surprisingly so. Disney is legend so I always try to watch whenever they drop something new. I refuse to watch their live action remakes and I LOATHE their Star Wars stuff (except the Mandalorian, but since they chose to fire Gina Cerano for 'wrong think,' I really have issues with them and now will no longer watch ANY of their Star Wars stuff. I grew up with Star Wars. My mom taught me to love books with Star Wars; she wouldn't let me see the movies in the theaters unless I read the book first. As I was like...7 or so-ish years old when the first one came out (I'm 52 now), I ended up reading the book adaptions of the first 2 movies and then the whole family went to see the movies. Big theaters with Dolby sound and balconies, crowds of several hundred people cheering the Rebels and hissing at Darth Vader... Even the new Marvel movies can't compare cuz the modern theaters are all so small, although maybe the picture and sound are crisper than back then (not that my eyes can tell. The original trilogy looked amazing to me). I know the crowds at a Marvel movie have fun with the cheering, so that's cool, but I miss the balconies. So many modern movies just seem to work off of a formula directed at the lowest common denominator of humanity. I don't mean to sound like an uppity jerk or something - I love a good, brainless action movie as much as the next guy. Still, I honestly can't remember the last movie I'd rate a 9 or 10, and I've waded through a sea of 5 to 7's with the occasional 8 (I'd rate the new Disney joint an 8 by way of a for instance). Like, any Western movie where Clint Eastwood plays his mostly silent protagonist, the 'Pale Rider' guy, those are all 9's and 10's. Apocalypse Now, Goodfellas, the Godfather movies...9's and 10's... As far as modern movies are concerned, 9's and 10's are few and far between. Maybe the first couple of Pirates of the Caribbean movies? Those were such a pleasant surprise. I really love the first 2 Underworld movies and the Riddick movies - solid 8's all around but that's my personal take...I can't say I'd recommend them to everyone as 'must watches' like the Godfather and the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. I wish I liked Tarantino more. Pulp Fiction was great though. Solid 9. He kinda dips in quality after that. I couldn't even finish the Hateful 8. Inglorious Basterds was just silly but it's his second best film. Gets an 8 from me. Now that China owns so many of the movie studios, and China generates more money for Hollywood than America does, I worry about the future of film. Also, the stupidity of political correctness has hurt modern movies so badly. Ghostbusters never needed to be rebooted with an all female cast. Hollywood has always had a place in films for amazing female characters - think Ripley in the first two Alien movies, Selene from Underworld and dozens and dozens of others. They were also allowed to be sexy, too. The most recent Harley Quinn movie was SO BAD because the folks making it refused to put Harley in a sexy outfit. And we're talkin' 'bout Harley Quinn here! For whatever reason, and they've done the same thing to videogames and comic books, an attractive woman is now 'being sexualized for the male gaze,' or somesuch nonsense, so we get a beautiful actress like Margot Robbie wearing god awful outfits and looking ugly... Were we supposed to forget that she did a fully nude scene in that Wall Street movie with DiCaprio? (I forget the title of that one) No one is gonna go see a 2 hour movie featuring a frumpy Margot Robbie. Sigh...I suppose she was being oppressed by the patriarchy or whatever. I also loathe 'social justice' and what it has done to everything fun...cuz basically it makes everything unfun. I don't want to see remakes of all my favorite movies with women taking the roles men played in the original, I don't need 'people of color' replacing the original actors just because they were white. I wish they would just make new movies starring women or black folks or Latino folks or Asian folks or whatever instead of deliberately screwing up classic films. I don't care what color or gender the lead is in a new movie - if it's a good movie it's a good movie. I love Training Day with Denzel Washington. If the end wasn't so dumb I would call it a 9. As it is it's a solid 8. But I don't need a black Superman, thanks! I'm just so disappointed with most modern entertainment stuff. The emphasis seems less on quality and fun and more on 'diversity' and 'representation.' And Hollywood wonders why this stuff bombs and they blame the fans. We get labeled 'toxic' when we dare to complain about changes made to our favorite franchises just for the sake of 'diversity' and 'representation.' Well...we also get labeled racist, xenophobic and misogynistic, of course, and I'm so tired of it I don't watch much any more. Also, most new stuff being released is just a rehash of some movie I saw growing up, and 99 times out of 100, that movie was better. I know this is just cuz I'm getting old and I've seen hundreds of films, maybe thousands, but it is what it is. I also avoid TV like the plague. I don't even own one. Anything I wanna see I torrent. I can't suffer through commercials any more and TV is filled with way more social justice stupidity, so I bailed on it. 😄 Sorry if I ramble. I tend to do that when I'm discussing this stuff. I guess I was lucky to grow up in a great era for movies, and modern stuff just...doesn't cut it comparatively. Just a note - I've already been banned by KZbin once for discussing some of these subjects. Apparently I violated their terms of service by not embracing political correctness. If you're concerned about being banned, you're welcome to email me at [e-mail]

[@GiDD504]

Finally a great video on this awesome movies that isn't just complaining and whining that it's so inaccurate! Bravo!