Fusion energy breakthrough and national security implications explained

[@pulepebane5679]

I’ve been following the fusion story for 10 years, half my life. Never thought the day would come when this announcement would come. This is a big deal. Congratulations

[@republica7337]

Your young. I wish you a bright future. I'm sure it will be interesting. This is great news for humanity.

[@marctemura2017]

Your going see massive innovations coming soon.

[@wilklablacquit]

"following fusion story for 10 years, half my life" wow, that's more pride than actually designing fusion reactor.

[@dellaroccia]

I"ve been following the fusion story for 50 years and I'm sure I will have to wait for another 20 or 30 years for any kind of a happy end.

[@Vjx-d7c]

I'm 17 and I've been fasinated in all things space and nuclear since I was 4 years old this breakthrough is astonishing

[@cristiangarza7791]

This was my reactor physics professor, the greatest professor of all time.

[@Jack-mn7ln]

Well your teach just told the world that he's making new types of destructive weapons, when these people have an opportunity to do something different, no your guy is a huge Asshole.

[@zqzj]

@F.u.c.k You OK, so I did the math, since nobody else on the internet has. Their "reactor" was outputting 18,750,000,000,000,000 Watts of energy for 80 picoseconds. Totally not sustainable, and absolutely not the breakthrough everyone thinks it is. They basically created the smallest thermonuclear hydrogen bomb and are claiming we're on the path to sustainable energy. It's pure propaganda and everyone is falling for it LOL

[@graegoles8382]

Even though i have a firm grasp on the theory, id still love an explenation from someone in the field as well.

[@HouTexHemi]

@@fu1ck1you Well, in all previous attempts at confined fusion, the reaction took more energy to create than it produced. So it was a net negative energy equation. Now, they have finally been able to generate more energy with the fusion reaction than they used to create it. A net positive energy equation. Clearly for fusion to be usable for power generation on a large scale, there has to be a net positive energy equation. This doesn't mean they can start building fusion power plants right away, but is a monumental milestone on the road towards that goal.

[@vultoktok1848]

@@HouTexHemi It's too early to celebrate.. it needed more funding by investors who would like a hefty returns(Nikola Tesla's inventions of alternating current was the greatest invention in contrast with Edison's direct current,we now enjoy electricity in wide distances)but with this fusion energy.. hmm. It reminds me of Ronald Reagan's Star Wars.

[@TheRealKillerTomato]

It’s about time this world and country had something to remind us what humans are supposed to be doing. Bravo to all the teams and supporters involved.

[@highplainshollarhomestead3188]

THIS!!! Let's all rally around this and stop letting the politicians divide us!!!

[@lastofthebest5102]

LOL,OK. You mean deliberately withholding information that would benefit everyone under the guise of "national security" so that only a few may be unjustly enriched? Didnt Tesla say that energy frequency and vibrations are the keys to the universe and isnt that what they have done here? Microwaves and lasers are just vibrations. So it has taken more than 100 years for the United States to actually admit he was correct.

[@CephlonMayngrum]

@Das Me it's unlimited energy. They will use it for everything

[@vegan-rising]

sure let's stop exploiting billions of animals for tastebuds. we are so technologically advanced after all.

[@vegan-rising]

I remember when all scientists said this wasn't possible and that you're a conspiracy theorist.

[@analogGigabyte]

Watching scientists act giddy got me in tears. It only makes sense when you realize the importance of this moment. Humanity is about to enter a whole new era of climate-weary, guilt-free abundance of energy. This is the work we should be doing. This is the way we should carry ourselves into the future. Taking a rare moment to feel proud of our spieces. Go science!

[@freezingcathedral]

you speak of a future. take heed, neighbor. our only future is ashes.

[@RandoManFPV]

They still gunna be charging me the same for it

[@markusmarakus]

@@freezingcathedral I bet you are super fun at parties! Regardless of your pessimistic views, this breakthrough is a positive step in the right direction.

[@erikhartog5340]

Lol, don't count yourself rich. First of all, the only thing they achieved is a net positive outcome in Q plasma, what you need is a net positive Q total. It took half a century to get to a positive Q plasma. In order to get a positive Q total, they need to make the proces a hundred times more efficient, while not costing so much that other forms of energy are more affordable. This is probably why fusion will always be a decade away.

[@jesseJ8850]

This is fantastic, Nobel prize worthy! We need to let the scientist and engineers embrace this new discovery and most importantly, KEEP POILITICIANS OUT OF THIS EQUATION!!

[@automedoniliad3269]

The Nobel prize is a joke just political tokens now

[@williamlalonde6426]

To late

[@zlonewolf]

Not possible if it helps politicians get elected. Oil companies also will pay politician pocket books to lobby.

[@daikon711]

Except politicians, which we voted for, are the reason this was achieved, investment in clean energy research, since this is a public institution

[@AntonBrazhnyk]

@@daikon711 It's not about clean energy. At least not primarily. This facility and this research is mostly about military purposes.

[@eldergeektromeo9868]

Congrats to all of our most excellent scientific community! Bravo! Kudos to LLNL's!

[@erivers71]

Agreed. These scientists are rock stars! I'm somewhat speechless right now....wow harnessing clean Fusion energy I was just a theory until now. 😮😮😮😮

[@SonsoftheEagle]

Total bullshit. Get back to oral circumcision with your over lords.

[@dragonflydreamer7658]

THREADS

[@Ralph_Baric_PhD_C2019]

now if they could just get vaxcines right and stop lying about them. So when we all have our own benchtop fusion, i guess we need to be microchipped and social creddited to make sure we do not.... Mwhuah hah hah ah hah Its a Frikin Lazer.!!!!!

[@fliu5282]

This is bunch of balonny. Hogwash. VUDU science and Wonton technology. This is to design to divert our attention to "Hunter-Bidon Laptop" corruption scheme story and to overshadow and to disect the TRUTH. Nothing can be made of fusion energy without Elon Musk. This is buch of crap and b.s. by the Democrat / Socialist.

[@nitroxide17]

I hope we can use fusion to improve our lives and go further into space... and not used for harming ourselves.

[@atulsodhi8985]

Hell na I want Nukes 2.0

[@Jack-mn7ln]

Clearly you didn't hear him say "relevant weapons technologies" open your hearing.

[@Gkuljian]

Thank you; my sentiments are shared.

[@Sceth]

I doubt it would ever be possible or energy efficient to create a fusion weapon, other then fusion bombs of course. Using fusion power to provide energy to weapons? Absolutely, foregone conclusion.

[@heronimousbrapson863]

Sadly, it's much easier to blow ourselves up than to explore space.

[@personacyde4887]

I remember hearing about this in college. I also remember not hearing any news for the next, 12 years I'd guess. This is amazing! Great job is undoubtedly an understatement for this succes!

[@arcaneinane]

people tend to exaggerate their claims on fusion energy because of the propositions associated with making it viable, similar things regularly happen in the cancer treatment research field

[@ColonelStraker]

LOL some of these comments and their "star trek" rhetoric nonsense. Look at the state of global affairs and the corruption of this US Administration and their Elitist miscreant partners. Any plans they have certainly won't be for the common folk to go anywhere but away. Time to re-watch THE SAINT starring Val Kilmer.

[@blinkingaming2098]

You can tell in their word and jokes that this is something that makes these people incredibly happy. They have probably followed a career guided by their passions and hopes and now they are coming to a fulfilling conclusion. They know in their hearts they have devoted their time to a concept akin to "future technology" and by amazing incremental discoveries, do in part to their own personal contributions, will lead to a future that will prosper from this innovation.

[@lukapretegiani3348]

ye passion for weapons of mass destruction

[@dvig3261]

Or they are fooling us and are full of shit.

[@m777howitzer4]

Yep, fusion bombs on the horizon🤙🏽

[@HomerEscobar1]

Global depop!

[@vivvpprof]

Man, if that doesn't make *you* happy as well, you must've skipped college.

[@smacdiesel]

I have been waiting for this for 40 years, ever since my high school physics teacher spent an entire class lecture talking about this being in our future. Finally happening!

[@dgage1776]

What will they build with it?

[@ONE_OF_MANY-MANY_OF_ONE]

@@dgage1776 I have a theory. That Space Force is really Star Fleet and soon everything is going to look like we are living in Star Trek.

[@dgage1776]

@@ONE_OF_MANY-MANY_OF_ONE that would need my literal dream. Sign me up. I'll clean toilets if I have to

[@brentcrude8153]

Speaking of High School...It's moments like this that I almost regret giving that blonde-haired scientist an Atom Wedgie in front of the girls in 9th Grade Gym Class. On the other hand, I'd like to believe that without me, he might've wasted time on girls and maybe wouldn't have worked so hard. So, as for that Nuclear Fusion business, ...your welcome, Earth.

[@GumiiZ]

@@brentcrude8153 no no don’t flatter yourself. That kid would’ve gone and done it anyway. Only now he will weaponise it to get back at you

[@JoeLackey]

In case you were wondering what clear, engaging communication looks like in an industry that notoriously has little of it, this is it.

[@karamelapple8007]

Dude was cringe but watchable

[@aaronmiddleton6170]

Nothing more engaging than watching someone read from their notes

[@perjacobsen8445]

True that

[@fookilla]

Damn right

[@liamp6491]

I feel blessed to be a young man coming up in a world where our scientists have this capability

[@siddbastard]

well don't be sad, because they still don't have it.

[@Mikenperu]

You can be "one of those scientists"

[@CaliMex96]

@@siddbastard your a Russian agent

[@freezingcathedral]

the capability to erase the earth? we've had that.

[@grahamfloyd3451]

@@freezingcathedral have you ever thought about restricting your pessimism?

[@MaskHysteria]

One might say that Dr. Adams actually seems giddy and is having a difficult time containing it. The fact it's being announced to the public means the team is very confident in their breakthrough and are excited at the prospect of sharing it with the world. Congratulations to everyone involved. I can only imagine the long-term ramifications of this are staggering. Glad to see it happen within my lifetime, when, as a young man it was said this would "never" happen.

[@aalvarez2914]

I think he’s nervous that this lie will be torn apart so easily. The experiment actually consumed over 300 megajoules, to generate the 3. The 2.05 megajoules they’re talking about is just an estimate, or calculation based on how inefficient they believe the lasers were. He may not be lying, by carefully using the words “energy deposited” instead of “energy consumed”, but most people are taking this to mean they actually produced net energy, which is false. This specific experiment consumed about 100 TIMES the energy they got out of it. That’s not practical, or realistic, at all. They’re also implying they need a lot more money and equipment to “really understand” what happened though.

[@ShakeyJake117]

They said this in 2013 also.

[@LeavesofGreenLoG]

If you believe this you also believed that guy who help up the cylinder of talcum powder that justified the invasion of iraq

[@hg-javelingaming2690]

I read "that Dr. Adam's actually did the griddy". I was like what a Chad.

[@wreckincrew2714]

Bingo! US military already perfecting and miniaturizing them. This Administration needed a massive PR boost so they just lied, again, to the American People.

[@Mynaat.world786]

Wow simply wow..such a proud moment. Heartiest congratulations from India to all the researchers and team. I pray that this breakthrough will be used for construction purpose rather than going on a path of destruction. 🥳

[@subramanyabhat446]

You mean constructive purpose right?😭

[@garyenwards1608]

They are doing this to make bombs not energy. Tesla's Electro-Magnetic Motor Patent works perfectly well

[@DonPedroIXIV]

The word weapons was mentioned a lot in this presentation. Just a thought!

[@yeahLOUIS]

Mmm I hope the deep state doesn't get their hands on them

[@garyenwards1608]

@@yeahLOUIS Who do you think funded this

[@marciadeverteuil5327]

Our world as we know it is about to change significantly .... congrats to all the fantastic scientists

[@privatename3621]

"About to"? People with knowledge of this industry say this technology is likely still 30 years away from being of any practical use for solving real world issues like climate change or powering our nation's electric grid. So this is definitely a good first step, but this is the equivalent of the first electric powered bicycle vs. a modern Tesla. It's one thing to use the enormous power of the LLNL to generate such a hyper-experimental breakthrough, its a whole different kettle of fish to be installing fusion reactors in your home town power plant.

[@mistycloud4455]

A.G.I Will be man's last invention

[@Christian-gf2ef]

Yeah. We will have all free Energie in the form of a big bomb.

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

@@privatename3621 fuck me dude, do you have to be a downer in breakthroughs like this. 😑

[@paulsawczyc5019]

@@privatename3621 Kettle of fish? where are you from?

[@kwg5044]

This is the most important thing right now. Develop this and transmit it globally

[@kenchang3456]

As a normal citizen, I am so excited about this announcement and congratulate the scientists, researchers, and engineers at LLL NIF for delivering this exciting glimpse into a better future for all on this planet.

[@clavo3352]

Yes! Well said!

[@dragonflydreamer7658]

THREADS

[@ducho5704]

Let go back door and copy all coding. Send to ccp and Xi make some money

[@evergreens92]

You are NOT a normal citizen.

[@oceanicfeeling3135]

I think it is safe to say that this breakthrough and resulting technology will definitely not be used for a better future for all on this planet. This is the US after all.

[@powelllucas4724]

If the results are repeatable, sustainable, and scalable then mankind has just made a tremendous leap toward world prosperity.

[@jesmarina]

wrong - the US has..........you really think this will be shared to the world just like that? Forget it.........Think about all the power struggles today based on energy - you think the US is willing to just let that go?!

[@philfrydman2576]

Recent history (6 & 9 August 45) has shown deterence is opposite to world prosperity !

[@TheCamwon]

@@jesmarina just like with fission power the US will try to hold on to it, but this brake through means that fusion is not a science problem anymore, its a engineering problem.

[@myraligma6137]

@@jesmarina my guy technology like that will eventually spread everywhere if u actually think about it

[@burmy1552]

@@jesmarina The Chinese and Russians will reverse engineer it within years, maybe even months. In fact the Chinese may even get a commercially viable unit in production before the US. When I worked at Intel, AMD would do this to us all the time and got better at it as time went on.

[@henrymonroe4300]

Bravo to all the men and women who work hard every day for new technology and means to build humanity's future! Im always delighted to see the fruits of such labors come to term - well done and cheers to many more years or toil in the name of the great endeavor

[@celphalonred1999]

More like humanity's end. The first thing they'll do is weaponize it

[@protomaverick8425]

This is beautiful, why doesn't this have billions of views?!

[@andreafong9952]

Congratulations Lawrence Livermore! I am glad this happened in California although I know from your remarks the team involved was broad. Great timing and hope to see the practical applications coming soon along with the additional security we now have thanks to your commitment to scientific progress.

[@marcosdenizatrailhiker2037]

California will tax the hell out of it

[@rj45swag]

This is kinda exciting!! On a real note, thank you to all that made this possible.

[@bikepacker9850]

He is enjoying his time in the spotlight. Having said that, he deserved it and is quite there character.

[@nevinkuser9892]

Amazing. I can't wait to see what this does for clean energy production. Much needed and exactly on time.

[@JayeSunsurn]

What an accomplishment, I wish the first application mentioned wasn't Weaponry... but rather how this could be the start of the work towards abundant clean energy. Proof that it is easier to destroy than to build.

[@Ryanowning]

We've had fusion warheads for years. Destroying with the power of fusion is the easy part. The hard part is figuring out how to build with it.

[@bpm5403]

The only reason that weaponry was mentioned was as a deterrent, NOT as an offensive weapon. It's precisely because of these sorts of massive deterrents that we can continue the peaceful pursuit of breakthroughs such as this. That is the essence of America and make no mistake, the rest of the peace-loving world loves us for that.

[@Jarl_Balscruff]

Speak softly and carry a big stick

[@StreuB1]

Why? LLNL exists primarily to keep us safe and assure our prosperity as American Citizens, first and foremost. That is the job of all national laboratories. Everything after that is to better ourselves. Make no mistake, NIF top brass were putting Russia on notice. There was no mincing words, that is their job. That is why they both stated it with such conviction. "Russia, don't threaten us. We invented this technology. Know your role."

[@MrLuridan]

@@bpm5403Exactly. Given the current state of international affairs, mentioning the “weapons” part was a calculated rebuff to any nations that were getting ideas that the US was in a weakened state.

[@kristinesmart582]

This is terrific! So nice to hear such good news for a change! The old joke was that viable fusion energy was always 30 years away, but this breakthrough is a gamechanger. Viable fusion energy may be here much sooner than we thought! Congrats to the team of scientists and engineers working on this endeavor and all their predecessors who laid the foundation for this achievement.

[@DIsmayedConfuse]

The efficiency measurement is absurd. Yes, more energy was released than was in the light that struck the target. But creating laser light is inefficient, so only 1% of the light that was used to pump the lasers was released by the fusion reaction.

[@suedenim6590]

They've had it the whole time you absolute nincompoops. They're pipping Randall Carlsons "secret" Maldives lab to the post because the big mouth stated on Rogan that it's "About to be open sourced and mazda have invested". This is the usual number 1 bs and lies from the yanks business as usual

[@Zgreasewood]

Don't sell it to corporations! It will disappear, and they will tell us "They are working on it" as they continue to shaft the average person, remember Algae Diesel?

[@f1mikeyboy]

I am sure Leonard, and Sheldon, are going crazy right now. Incredible👍

[@lawrencepfeiffer1960]

The Flux Capacitor!!!

[@philipperry9372]

Congratulations on this development may you keep pushing the boundaries on what is possible .

[@stevexmail530]

This is HUGE! Lately there has been a tremendous uptick in the race for fusion energy. Now, with this huge milestone, money will be pouring in and we will see a rapid succession of milestones being set. I always said we will see fusion electricity energy being produce and delivered, at least on a small scale, by 2030, and we are right on track. This is bigger than humans taking their first steps on the moon. Super super exciting!!!!!

[@And-rc9yy]

I wonder if this success will change things with ITER.

[@deepanshumalhotra9156]

Lol time for the wars Huxley wrote about and being replaced by synthetic humans that's our future

[@graegoles8382]

@@And-rc9yy the sad thing about iter is that the magnet technology for the designs are wildly outdated already, thats the sad thing about the project spanning so damn long

[@hamzamahmood9565]

Laughs in Hiroshima 2.0

[@republica7337]

Stevexmail530, I completely agree with your last sentences. This was truly the search for the Holy Grail, and they succeeded. Good on them.

[@PCgamer923]

It's amazing that not only did the device survive the experiment but that it performed at 150% efficiency compared to the average fission plant at 135%. I hope they can scale this to be useful and cost effective.

[@Rster0211]

Fission plants are less than 40% efficient due to the way steam generators work. Fusion will still need a better way to convert the released energy to something usable or they'll be bottlenecked by those same inefficient steam generators.

[@PCgamer923]

@@Rster0211 If they achieved that 150% that means they already have overcame that bottleneck. I have great doubts they can scale that for continuous production though.

[@mikewalko536]

@@PCgamer923 He's referring to the actual steam cycle efficiency, which you can't avoid. Look up thermodynamics cycles. You need to convert the energy from the reaction (burning natural gas, coal, or heat released from fission) into shaft power somehow. This fusion experiment only addresses how much energy was released vs went in, NOT that the energy that was released could be captured. This is the equivalent of finally being able to light a lump of coal on fire and getting some heat from it. You need to figure out a way to harness that energy later into something useful.

[@jacobdorsey2440]

150% of the power that the laser put in, not total, watch Sabine on fission or look into q numbers and a total vs what's reported

[@lukapretegiani3348]

@@Rster0211 they talked only about weapons

[@Gkuljian]

It's inspiring that we have accomplished so much. I knew the Lawrence labs mechanical engineer heading up the project in the 80's. I have to add that it's equally amazing that we are so unconscious a species that we would still focus on the malevolent aspect of such a liberating project. Can we not get beyond that? For if not, all is for nothing.

[@rharvier]

When he was talking about the national security aspects of this achievement, I was under the impression that it was to either keep or get more funding.

[@EaglePicking]

What is malevolent about deterring others to attack you?

[@AlexanderMoen]

@@EaglePicking because we're coming from the angle of, "hey, this should be a signal that we can hurt you" rather than "hey, this should be a signal that the whole world will be revolutionized through abundant access to energy."

[@EaglePicking]

@@AlexanderMoen I do understand that, but that is not the point. Of course we all want a great and peaceful future. That's a given. But what if someone wants to use force to take what you have? Should you just roll over or turn the other cheek? No. You should have the strength to defend yourself and you should be ready for it, because it's a jungle out there and not everyone wants to play nice. Many inventions originally come from military use and there's nothing inherently wrong with that.

[@youtube_chaplain]

Jesus died for our sins. 3 days later he was risen from death. Jesus is alive and He can forgive you of your sins. MARK 1:15 Repent and believe in the gospel.

[@AragonLegacy]

Wow! This is huge! Congratulations to the team. Now all we need is a better battery. Dr Goodenough and his colleague submitted a solid state battery a few years ago!

[@Beattie755]

Who is doctor Goodenough that's not a real person is it ?

[@herbalterrorist420]

@@Beattie755 I mean you could just google it and see for yourself 😂.

[@LovingDeantheGodMachine333]

@@herbalterrorist420 they simply are just stating that the name sounds fake or something you’d hear of in some movie or show

[@ecarvalh2]

Damn, there is actually such doctor!

[@bullbear7897]

Interesting framing and timing of the fusion breakthrough. Announcement revolved around national security and defense. If I didn't know any better, I'd say this is a release of technology not a discovery in an effort to defund Russian oil reserves.

[@evitoonbundit2453]

Proof of principle is still a long way from economical commercialization. So it looks more as a deflection of the real energy problems this administration has created. Note also the careful use of defining that net energy: more energy than the lasers deposited. Note that laser beam generation efficiency is pretty low.

[@daveh3777]

Ah, something amazing happened and there MUST be a political motive. "Could it be?"

[@mrrey8937]

I believe you are correct. I read somewhere that it would take another 20 to 30 years (or so) to scale up and use as a viable, dependable energy source.

[@Smo1k]

@@mrrey8937 Depending on the general interest in investing in it (and political interception), it will be commercially viable inside 30 years (patents can't be prolonged beyond that), and quite possibly much less than that: For those who want to make money out of the first two generations of controlled fusion, the countdown has started.

[@spacemanmat]

Yeah, probably need more funding. Talked about defence not about a practical device.

[@portrait1001]

What I love about this and all physics science is that it can't be erased or undone. It's a new old chapter waiting for the new # / and not conspiracy theories much praise to the great minds that never give up

[@RoscoesRiffs]

I'm pretty sure these brilliant scientists have shifted humanity into our next "age." Thank you.

[@celphalonred1999]

Stone age more like, sad that their first thought was to weaponize it. Our nukes alone can wipe out humanity at its current level.

[@RoscoesRiffs]

@@celphalonred1999 Studying math is my hobby. This opens a whole new universe in physics for us to explore. It was only a matter of time, and thanks to these brilliant scientists we're standing at the gates. I'm excited. 😎🖖

[@shaunolinger964]

This guy... first one up... was awesome!!! Seeing a member of the "pocket protector crew" with that kind of humor is actually pretty neat! As for the event itself.... I'm of mixed mind. I can see us blowing ourselves up with this, but then that's been an option since the Trinity test. Have at it folks, and good on ya!!!!

[@misdangered4326]

Very nice. Can I now afford to put my heating on…?

[@weirdmatter]

😆 mine is on 64 degrees. Iv gotten used to it, but it's ridiculous that us poor people have to struggle in the richest country on the nonrotating earth.

[@Sawksle]

They're hiring, if you need money. Im sure its a well paying job tbth

[@lovehalfblack9420]

I remember my HS physics / chemistry teacher telling us if someone can figure this problem out which in his words was near impossible, that the whole world would change for the better… Pretty cool to see it becoming reality.

[@Tryinnosaurus_Rex]

I’m sure the rich “elite” will put a stop to that

[@hotdogsarepropaganda]

@mimisimpjoy8700 now that it has been done, everyone will rush to do it themselves. this is the neo atomic age

[@jedwards1792]

Love this guy’s delivery. He’d be a fun dinner companion.

[@okieoiogh8235]

No he wouldn't. He's the typical charmless scientist who sucks at explaining things but thinks he's a joy

[@erivers71]

This scientist was very cool! He needs his own science TV show!

[@TurdFergusen]

@@okieoiogh8235 found the person NOT fun at parties

[@okieoiogh8235]

@@TurdFergusen I have higher standards of fun at parties.

[@TurdFergusen]

@@okieoiogh8235 thats what they all say

[@senjuchidori9448]

I can't believe I exist watching this break through, hope this technology will be used for the greater good of man kind

[@ColonelStraker]

Time to re-watch THE SAINT starring Val Kilmer.

[@innocentbystander6620]

More likely to be used to kill people

[@AterraTkd]

Congratulations! May this be an innovation for humanity, and prayers that it does not set off a chain of events of deception and greed worldwide. This is a time for celebration, you achieved an amazing feat. Again, Congratulations!

[@cliffhooper3558]

All they talked about was weapons sooo....

[@Zenandsimple]

@@cliffhooper3558😂

[@clavo3352]

The word "Nifty" takes on a new meaning! This is one WOW! moment in life. Too bad our public education system sucks so badly that 95% of high school seniors do not appreciate this moment or what it means.

[@jonredd650]

How do you know this to be true?

[@clavo3352]

@@jonredd650 I'v been an unrestricted substitute teacher for a year. That means I've taught every grade from 1st graders to High school seniors. I got to know what kids care about. 99% care only about how much attention they are getting. 1% are there to learn.

[@digitalplayland]

It feels good to get positive results. I am waiting for the first industrial application.

[@bleedingfly]

A bomb.

[@canobenitez]

Military I bet.

[@mmccubbis3662]

If the implications were even fractionally understood, this would be the leading topic of every media outlet. Humanity has stepped into a new wilderness of immense vastness.

[@MrDJS444]

This is SO cool! Although a lot of focus was on US national security implications, as an average citizen and father who hopes for a better future for my kids, I hope this technology is used to run emission-free cars and planes with their own “Mr. Fusions” sometime in the not too distant future.

[@doc-holliday-]

Electricity will run them from batteries. The power grid will be powered by sustained nuclear fusion.

[@philfortner1805]

Fusion reactors that worked worth crap produce giant amounts of radiation while running. They have made these claims many times before and always get caught omitting input energy. Between the instability, and negative real efficiency, this will never see outside the laboratory. Now suppose they aren't lying...a giant assumption... remember it takes 20 years to build a reactor when they approved them. This is simply a slightly different kind of nuclear reactor. Why not use what works? Simple, this 'story' makes better politics. Politics.

[@ryanmilota2395]

That's how they get funding for this, boom boom makes money.

[@lhaviland8602]

Not it your lifetime bub.

[@elijahmkjdj7016]

Yeah you definitely won’t see that in your life time man . Your kids most likely won’t see it either in there lifetime. Your grandkid’s might see cars with there own “Mr. fusions” though .

[@laurencevanhelsuwe3052]

Amazing how so many people just swallow the nuclear deterrent story as something rational, something good. "Hey kiddo, we're safe you know.. if the other guy fires anything at us, we just blow up the entire world, you and I included." So sensible... really, so sensible.

[@tankourito5419]

The issue is that one major country getting rid of their weapons will not cause any other major country to do the same.

[@chipsnmydip]

What they really want is first strike capability, not deterence.

[@DasPuppy]

The framing is .. 'interesting' to me. Where if this was announced in a EU Country it would all be about clean energy and it being an important step into the future away from fossil fuels. How for the first time we actually got energy out of a fusion reaction. But here it is all about national security, weapons, staying on top of war deterrents .. yeah.. as I said: Interesting. But man, is this great news!! Edit: I am not looking for an explanation. I just made an observation. I am NOT attacking the framing. I am NOT attacking "the greatest nation on the planet" - you do that well enough in your replies to this. I am JUST finding it interesting. And as has been said in one reply, this is just a snippet of the whole conference.

[@felixguerrero6062]

This is the correct framing as the world is increasingly becoming a very hostile place, sadly...but we be prepared (all nations have to).

[@DasPuppy]

@@felixguerrero6062 I am not talking about a framing being correct or incorrect - just pointing out the differences in world views on each side of the atlantic.

[@laurens4359]

Well - there is the question of whether this technology is _scalable_ to meaningful levels of energy production (extraction). So it may well be limited in its application. Secondly - there is a question of what the funding that led to this was earmarked for. I believe that if you get a grant for one thing (e.g. deterrence maintenance) you can't just start using that money for other things - that can be regarded as fraud w.r.t grant applications, so that might well effect the tone of the message to ensure that no federal grant rules are broken (which can be federal law and subject to large repercussions)

[@matthewlillistone5943]

Also fake news

[@darrinwebber4077]

You're correct about how Europe...or anywhere else really, would do presentation. Not the US. With us, it's all about the military power and national security. God Guns and Glory....lol

[@tablajazz]

the crushing nerdiness is so inspiring!

[@shawnchaudry2126]

Replication and scaling are just as important as the initial experiment. That being said well done, and hopefully we don’t all kill each other.

[@RandoManFPV]

Yea and I'm confused. Is there a graphic video or something? What's the idea here just blast the cylinder with lazers and harvest the greater energy output that is resulted?

[@JayNuzy]

Absolutely astonishing. Great work 👍

[@Dunning-Krugereffect]

Seems like most aren't aware of how insanely important this is.

[@DestinyAwaits19]

If only they knew...

[@bundiesel8472]

Just means the price of everything else will go up.

[@DestinyAwaits19]

@@bundiesel8472 No. No. No. No. My friend. What you're looking at is a breakthrough. The same way man discovered fire, or invented the wheel. This is world changing. Mark my words. Fusion is the energy to the heavens and beyond.

[@bundiesel8472]

@@DestinyAwaits19 I feel that way too, but you know how things go. It will be amazing at first and then prices of other things will gradually get more expensive. It will level out as though nothing had changed and only the selected few will have access to this amazing discovery. Your not going to be able to make fusion at home. Trust me, I want to see positive.

[@DestinyAwaits19]

@@bundiesel8472 You'll put fusion in your car instead of fuel. They'll use it for rocket ships, air planes and entire city energy grids.

[@awakeningmaster]

All hail the USA. Well done and congratulations for once again leading the world into a brighter future. Thank you

[@JosephPotesta]

people don't realize how much this helps

[@mrrey8937]

should be ready in 20 to 30 years for use as a viable, dependable, clean energy source

[@JosephPotesta]

@@mrrey8937 possibly sooner. the rest of what needs to be built is straightforward. the odds of solving this problem before 2032 was roughly 20%. Reaching this point in 2022 is undoubtedly the biggest thing that has happened to humankind in any of our lives. It will make a bigger impact in shaping our world than the internet. We've seen how colossal it has been for information to become limitless and accessible to anyone in the world. Now energy is accessible and limitless. I'm glad this discovery happened in the United States in a laboratory of scientists I happen to know are good people and have the right intentions. We should all feel really good about this.

[@JosephPotesta]

And that comment was not meant to boast about the United States. Just to be clear, this is an international effort that includes contributions from so many countries. I was really just trying to highlight how good it is that this was not discovered by a terrorist organization, for example. And by the way, the odds of this discovery being replicated by organizations who would use it in malicious ways is extremely low. A massive part of this discovery came down to chance. Kind of like guessing a password... except scientists can only guess one time every month... hence my prior comment about the 20% odds of unlocking the right parameters to run the reactor yesterday. The rest of the world can try to replicate this experiment but even with massive amounts of black market scientists being payed to achieve this, it's unlikely this information will be discovered by any other group of scientists. So it's kind of like the moment Facebook was invented... except instead of an awkward weirdo no one really trusts being in control of the miracle invention, a very good group of wholesome people have it in their hands. And these people are not greedy people. Can't emphasize that enough. It's a win for our entire planet. US will make sure of that.

[@JosephPotesta]

Also not trying to diss zuck 😅 just making and illustrative point. Actually think he is a good dude and gets a lot of shit because how he drinks water when testifying in front of congress 🤣🤣

[@Steellmor]

@@JosephPotesta I mean it's amazing and all, but those are lasers, how efficient used ones are?

[@Gametism]

What a time to be alive. This is incredible!

[@stickplug123]

Pretty cool! Congratulations to all the people who made this possible!

[@hiddenamericachannel]

I can't believe I'm alive to see this, that's awesome. 😎

[@apagoogootwo7552]

it's so nice that they got John Fogarty to do the presentation. put me in, coach!

[@drone9403]

Congratulations to everyone who made this possible!

[@mustbetrippin7406]

Yeah say thx to Japan for building this teach to power their country in spite of what the U.S. govt said. Now the U.S. govt just wants to announce it first publicly to pretend like they were 1st.

[@thomasmcginnis3783]

*"But this is really what National Labs are for: tackling the most difficult scientific challenges head-on, learning from the inevitable setbacks, and building towards the next idea."* I just thought that merited restatement. #BSEGForScience

[@jiffnjelly1]

Couldn’t be prouder to be apart of the country that has perhaps just taken possibly the greatest and most revolutionary scientific step in history!

[@MarioMartinez-eg5mf]

This is fantastic… yet sad to see that something this exciting only gets a few thousand views while other unimportant videos get millions of views….

[@matthewoates4656]

It will be interesting to see if they can replicate this reliably and at larger scale. If they can, the potential impact is literally world changing. I've been waiting my entire life to see a breakthrough of this magnitude come to fruition. It seems like for the last 70 years, science has made "incremental" changes which, granted, have cumulatively had a huge impact. But this could literally change everything in one fell swoop.

[@yowhattupitzbigchungus4971]

How? Thank you

[@sykorose1966]

What makes you think it doesn't already exist? What if it is already being used and they trick people into paying more every month for something that should be free.

[@matthewoates4656]

@@sykorose1966 well, for one, I haven't seen any evidence to indicate it already exists. If you do have some evidence I would encourage you to share it

[@joelwolfe7579]

@@matthewoates4656 So you made a claim with no evidence to support your claim other than it not existing. Interesting. Did you ever think of all the negative effects it could lead to if in the wrong hand?

[@ninjalawzo]

@@joelwolfe7579 like china with internet? Imagine if China made the internet first. We would be extremely behind in technology. The fact that we, the US, found this out first, means that we are ahead of the game- specially when it comes to energy and weapons. Its just a matter of time before this new tech gets leaked to another world government, just like anything else. It would be very hard for this new tech to leak from China to US though

[@tmcbride9435]

Good job making the data digestible for the general public

[@invenitur4231]

This Discovery may have just saved the world.

[@archimedes379]

Even more impressive that this whole conference was held from space

[@mindlesslyscrolling378]

Ha

[@hunssabirsavars]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@emsleywyatt3400]

“We tend to overestimate the effect of a technology in the short run and underestimate the effect in the long run.”-Roy Amara

[@SlashRfnR]

We need to try. Our energy needs increase exponentially and we have nothing to meet those needs, maybe until now? I'm still skeptical, but hopefully so.

[@cherdoful]

This is exactly what i got from this video. I've heard before something like this was 20-30 years away...if its on its on, thats cool, but dont fuck with us

[@jamesgraham5470]

This is great but it is just the beginning but I am afraid of our military industrial complex

[@emsleywyatt3400]

@@jamesgraham5470 They've already weaponized fusion reactions. That's what H Bombs are.

[@zlonewolf]

@James Graham alot of what you use today is DUE to military complex. Fission energy, microwave, radio freq in 5g, satellites, etc

[@dunichtich100]

best quote of this speech: "kinda fast, kinda cool"

[@JustinCrediblename]

1.5 megajoules in less than one light inch*second is going to be pretty difficult to keep cool

[@fireantmedia7946]

Last year it was the James Webb Space Telescope. This year it was Artemis 1. And now this. We’re truly blessed to be alive in this period

[@cosmoscarl4332]

Let us keep this technology in the hands of the people and not let it be monopolized like all other forms of energy.

[@flyphish4434]

It’ll end up costing 10 times as much. They will be charging us outrageous fees for a self pat on the back. “A contribution to the environment” it’ll be called. Probably 99.9% profits, especially if it can produce its own fuel.

[@jamesgraham5470]

It must be kept away from the Ccp

[@flyphish4434]

@@jamesgraham5470 if a profit should be turned then let it be there. Things like this should be a gift to the world but I just know the minions will get the shaft. I heard once that the guy that invented the polio vaccine gave it away for free. Unfortunately they turned a profit on it.

[@johngreene6780]

Good luck

[@azul29156]

Never. Going. To. Happen. Too bad

[@icaleinns6233]

wow, it's only been 10 years away for how long? 😉 Congrats to the NIF team, they finally came out on the plus side of the equation! HUGE accomplishment! Well done!

[@bridog2663]

Wouldn't it be nice if the sole benefit discussed was related to clean energy rather than military implications the day after the discovery.

[@martinchitembo1883]

China is working on the same and their focus too is military then energy,countries can't trust each other these days.

[@johnbeckwith1361]

Why? Dems have every intention to give this tech away. Perhaps there will be a few smart Dems out there with enough balls to speak out against their Party when the time comes.

[@lexxlexx9710]

Well, there is a war in Europe which many have thought impossible in the year of the Lord 2022, the Chinese are still communists, N. Korea still exists, so yeah, military implications are quite important and still present.

[@downstream0114]

@@johnbeckwith1361 Rent free

[@atulsodhi8985]

Tell me you still live in your mom's basement without telling me you live in your mom's basement.

[@Mushin-Flowstate]

Bravo. I am truly impressed and happy for this accomplishment

[@seapoacher]

This will make the planet a Class 1 Civilization. 🙂

[@koeber99]

What do you type other Civilizations?

[@craigrankin5321]

Khardachev scale , we are at 0.23 at the moment we need to reach type 2 to get the fuck off this rock

[@drutalero2962]

@@craigrankin5321 we just need to be type 1. we're at about 0.7 at this point.

[@wildcaat025]

We are a .08 actually by the time we land on mars we will be civilization 1

[@infinitemonkey917]

Don't get ahead of yourself.

[@MattersNot]

No way!! Congratulations to the human race it is a absolutely wonderful accomplishment!! Thank you to the scientist who had achieved this massive breakthrough!!! 👏👏

[@yugbe]

This is the TOP news for the entire world. Fusion has been something we have been waiting for, for a very long time. There are not enough "Thank You!"s and "Congratulations" to give to ALL those that have worked their entire lives to build to this point. 2 in 3 out!!

[@moviebad109]

Imagine you spend your entire career figuring out how to deposit energy into a bead half the size of a bb. But then imagine that being the most significant scientific breakthrough since the discovery of fission reactions. This is a monumental feat. It seems so small when he holds up the tube. But that energy coefficient speaks for itself. Absolutely surreal to see a successful fusion reaction like this in my lifetime.

[@satlarsatlar]

Great news but be aware we surpassed the "Q plasma" energy. The next goal would be surpassing "Q Total". Meaning all the "other" power required to run the reactors, the magnets, and magnet cooling systems. We're a long way from power plants.

[@robfer5370]

Yep, funny he left that bit out... Sigh, Biggest con in history.

[@youme1414]

I thought as much .

[@ordinarygg]

you will need only one time impulse to chain of those laser energy generators, when it starts one -> next generate more -> so it will be enough to start it again till it circles

[@ordinarygg]

if you put some energy into system and this system can produce more then intake -> this is huge

[@wally7856]

@@ordinarygg it would be but like they said since the 50's - that's only 20 years away.

[@BobSmith-iq6oo]

If goes right … I cannot imagine oil companies

[@Turd420]

puts

[@EM10]

I can tell this man is also a professor by his cadence of speech and mannerisms.

[@Tsukuyomi576]

FUCK YEA been closely watching fusion deveopments for about 10 years finally happy to see this ground breaking breakthrough congratualtions to all the scientist and engineers involved

[@trialcritic7625]

Congratulations to the LLNL! As an AI person, I am glad that Machine Learning was used for predictions!

[@snuffying]

whats an AI person? are you a bot?

[@drjamp8169]

AI and Machine learning are completely different algorithms.

[@samb6739]

Machine learning is a subset of AI.

[@KingOstrich]

can you imagine how all the dinosaurs are going to react to this.

[@Afrologist]

I bet they're absolutely burning with jealousy. It'll surely fuel their revenge against mankind.

[@burmy1552]

I'll bet that they're decomposing a rebuttal as we speak!

[@catsozen]

What insane timeline we're in. A pandemic that swept across the world that we've yet to recover from, but then a leap in AI research and now this. My old brain can't keep up!

[@luisrider7475]

Well done. This is, awesome. This changes everything. Thank you.

[@augiedogie88]

A day to be very proud. 🇺🇸

[@nagualdesign]

Very interesting news. I'd like to know what was qualitatively different about this experiment, apart from the result obviously. I'd also like to know what the efficiency of the laser generation is. It may be that far more energy was used in order to produce the laser pulse than was released by the fusion reaction. If the laser is

[@justicevanpool9025]

still a very long road ahead...

[@justicevanpool9025]

Fyi, at the beginning of tbe discussion panel after this announcement they stated that the laser used was not designed to be efficient but powerful. The amount of energy input into the laser was about 300 megajoules, while the output of the laser used to excite the fuel was only 2.05 Mega joules. So that looks like about less than 1% efficiency? LOL somehow that doesn't feel right but that's what he said

[@nagualdesign]

@@justicevanpool9025 Oh dear. Thanks for the information.

[@nagualdesign]

@@yarra6131 They drew 300 megajoules from the grid, produced a 2.05 megajoule laser pulse and released 3.15 megajoules of energy. So while the fusion reaction released around 50% more energy than the laser pulse that ignited it, the experiment was only around 1% efficient. In layman's terms, they're a very long way off generating clean, renewable energy.

[@silverfox8615]

@@nagualdesign But the point is that the laser wasn't built to be efficient, only big. Now that the proof of concept has been demonstrated, there is plenty of room for optimization. This is the hugest news in our lifetime.

[@erichuet4844]

Its lot of fun ! NIF has finally produce some energy... But what are we talking about ? Inertial confinment of a tiny cap of D + T which take several decades and billions bucks ! Come back when you'll be able to produce electrical energy...if some one here is still alive to see this happening !

[@paulmartin2499]

Definitely tear worthy. I don't know if I cry for the positive possibilities this presents us with, or mankind's endless abilities and willingness to treat each other inhumanely.

[@stevec7272]

I'd really like to see this repeated and confirmed using different equipment to confirm it's not equipment error

[@PplsChampion]

my only complaint is he didn't lean into the microphone and say "we're vaporizing diamonds"

[@burmy1552]

Fusion; brought to you by sharks with friggin laser beams on their heads! -Dr. Evil.

[@marleetrostel9886]

This makes me so happy to hear!

[@theamazingshazbob]

Now to figure out how to put the meter on it! That’s next. Never forget the GREED factor.

[@graegoles8382]

@@sergiosantos7345 they already made the accompanying bomb long ago, only uphill from here haha

[@philiposdrontzas3725]

I'm pretty surprised that we were able to achieve this, well done everybody! On the other hand, I feel really bad that we as humans, invest soo much in the military, "defense" and other things orientated around the army, rather than focusing on what's more important... understanding the laws of the universe that surround us, understanding ourselves and the future. Hopefully, things will go in a good way.

[@karamlevi]

The county with no defense will be consumed in seconds by another. But we understand your sentiments and intentions, it’s a positive fantasy, ungrounded, but nice.

[@philiposdrontzas3725]

​@@karamlevi Yeah, well unfortunately, indeed is just a fantasy....

[@ronniabati]

Congrats to humanity

[@XXhite]

"It's impossible to get more energy from a system than you put in"... I have waited so long for this day💯!!!.. and I hate the word "impossible"💯

[@gmasterdude]

Great advancement in technology. Nice to see their main focus is not on low cost unlimited energy for all but creating more horrible weapons. Shame I can't transform myself into a laser and leave this planet.

[@1008chaz]

It's such a shame that more people are talking about twitter & ye right now than this huge step towards a clean energy revolution. Congratulations to all those involved in achieving this I hope you get the recognition you deserve soon.

[@irontuth]

I mean ye is trying to expose a corruption in humanity

[@mustbetrippin7406]

It's obvious to me from your comment that you are not a scientist. This technology is very old and they didn't want us to have it. One main reason is because if they revealed it then they would have to admit that overunity is real. Japan started building this a while ago and the U.S. just wanted to 1st to announce that it exists. look it up.

[@horaceensign1858]

You are your own worst enemy. Nobody was talking about Kanye West until you brought him up.

[@1008chaz]

@@mustbetrippin7406 it's obvious that you have no clue what milestone they are celebrating in this press conference. You are right fusion reactors are not new the first one was built in the 70-80s but these old reactors required more energy to initiate and contain plasma than they could get out of the reactor. What Lawrence Livermore has achieved is the first fusion reaction to go critical and produce more energy than it took to initiate the reaction. No one has been hiding fusion energy and almost every developed nation has been working to develop fusion energy capabilities.

[@mustbetrippin7406]

@@1008chaz you're a fool for believing that this technology was not already completed a long time ago. They have so many elements that aren't even on the conventional periodic table. Wake up and smell the coffee bro the public is minimum 40 years behind the technology that the governments of the world already have.

[@TheOkieLife]

Net energy nuclear Fusion is the first step to our future. This can eliminate fossil fuels, power space missions, and much MUCH more! Super cool stuff!

[@dadmonster1019]

May our future be peaceful

[@weirdmatter]

😆 History repeats itself! Humanity has never been peaceful, we are the most destructive animal on the face of the plane.

[@dadmonster1019]

@@weirdmatter all part of life. Never was separated no matter how we perceive it. Have a good day! I'm glad you were here for this.

[@dieterrosswag933]

Fusion together

[@vagabundood]

Ya rite😂

[@AngryMillennial]

May our future be peaceful

[@seemoretoys5944]

I've heard this sort of thing before... Will pay off in 20 years. We need more funding now.

[@tankourito5419]

Less billions on developing laser guided snipers and a new shiny spy plane and put it to things like this instead.

[@seemoretoys5944]

@@tankourito5419 I'm old and I've heard this same thing about fusion for over 50 + years and still no fusion that can generate on going electricity anytime in the near future. After 100+ years we still boil water to make electricity, it's just a matter of how and how much? Also... A laser that can produce fusion would make one heck of a death ray... But, you know... "For peaceful purposes only!"

[@robfer5370]

Yep nice way to keep getting money hey.