Future Gohan - The Perfect Character, that wasn't given to us...

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Ай бұрын

This video breaks down Gohan's wasted potential, and how we should've got Future Gohan.
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@AdventVFX
@AdventVFX Ай бұрын
Future Gohan was like the Guts of Dragon Ball, he endures so much to protect the planet and to preserve any peace that is left. Also his discipline is much greater than his main timeline counterpart which is at least for me is why I always respect his future counterpart more. He never let himself get that much weaker, I wonder what his life would've been if he never died. Maybe he'd pursue academics like his main counterpart but with the mental toughness he had from all those years fighting the Androids. Probably would've used his academic skills to educate the next generation and train them in Martial Arts as the population recovers like a wise sensei. Main Gohan just seemed like someone who would lose himself in his desires instead of having them strengthen him in both body and spirit cause the amount of times he completely slacked off on his body in Super is pretty alarming.
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
Exactly the reason I love Future Gohan so much, his mentality and mindset is something anyone can aspire to and has to respect. He would've been a role model for everyone else in Dragon Ball, his little brother and anyone else. Gohan would've been the one they looked up to and who trained them not Goku. It's a shame we couldn't of seen more Future Gohan and what we would've looked like in the future had he not been killed, I think there is so many amazing story lines they could've gone down had he been kept alive
@Pajama_Mike
@Pajama_Mike Ай бұрын
honestly they could do this with broly maybe. He was my favorite Z character (even if non canon)
@ghostly_number
@ghostly_number 29 күн бұрын
I think that's the case in one of the DB games? The one where you can create all kinds of fusions. I think one version of gohan uses his intellectual skills to create the bracelet that allows everyone to fuse with anyone. But I'm not too sure if I'm right
@dischordblast8992
@dischordblast8992 Ай бұрын
Future gohan was forced to fight because everyone died. He does the same thing against cell. Teen gohan takes the responsibility of having to take out cell cause he is the strongest. After goku dies the earth is peaceful. Gohan never wanted to fight not like the others anyway. Future gohan would have done similar if the androids were defeated thats just who gohan is
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
100% Future Gohan is a universe in which he doesn't have the luxury to stop training and go to school and be a human, he has to be a saiyan and protect earth because there is no one else to do it, and he takes that responsibility in stride
@dischordblast8992
@dischordblast8992 Ай бұрын
@@HiddenSH_ 1 thing i will say about future gohan is that he caught the most L’s of all time😭 and at the end of his life the androids revealed they weren’t even trying against him😭😭😭
@young_shaad5227
@young_shaad5227 27 күн бұрын
You gotta be honest, Future Gohan is just a depresssed hobo who died in a puddle. He does his best but (in my opinion other than just saying uhh plot) due to him trying to be his father​ and be as strong as Goku he had himself a mental block which held him back from becoming his strongest, so with no progrss he then has to put his faith in Trunks as the last hope@@dischordblast8992
@ericchung3177
@ericchung3177 5 күн бұрын
Call me crazy but I doubt Future Gohan would’ve started slacking off with his training like regular Gohan. An entire lifetime of battle would’ve probably make it clear that simply relaxing and using a little bit of strength here and there wouldn’t be wise should another threat appear. I have no doubt that Future Future Gohan would’ve been more prepared for Future Buu had he survived, and probably would been spending that time to help Trunks train as well. But hey who knows, Gohan is a bookworm at heart I guess.
@dischordblast8992
@dischordblast8992 5 күн бұрын
@@ericchung3177 no not to the same degree as main timeline Gohan but i can definitely see him wanting to live a more normal life. Main timeline Gohan had also had a lifetime of battle and still slacks off. I can see Gohan unlocking ssj2 then when shin comes down to warn about Buu they kill Dabura. Anyways goku black comes and honestly probably Kills Gohan. That Gohan was doomed from the beginning
@aleister8064
@aleister8064 Ай бұрын
We never got future gohan because they wanted to dumb down Goku as if he was Ash from Pokèmon.
@HCMS71
@HCMS71 Ай бұрын
yeah, fans ruin my boy Gohan's future
@HCMS71
@HCMS71 Ай бұрын
at least Toriyama had the last laugh and made Gohan the strongest before passing away, since that was his main idea
@aleister8064
@aleister8064 Ай бұрын
@@HCMS71 Future gohan definitely had one of the best designs imo
@kewpiesensei
@kewpiesensei Ай бұрын
@@HCMS71you have 0 idea what you’re talking about. toriyama killed gohans character in the buy saga because he realized the asspull of making him a pacifist wouldn’t fit him as the mc. and even then, Toriyama’s endgame for gohan has always been for him to wear glasses and become weak. in end of z its literally nerdhan in a different outfit. meaning gohan after beast will stop training AGAIN before super ends.
@HCMS71
@HCMS71 Ай бұрын
@@kewpiesensei Gohan was killed by the fans. You dumb dumb 😂
@AnIdiotsLantern
@AnIdiotsLantern Ай бұрын
Can I put in a word in defense of Librarian Gohan tho? One thing consistent about Gohan, ever since Radditz dragged him from his father way back when, is that he never fights for fun. You could argue he had the Saiyan “passion for battle” kicked out of him at five years old when he was kidnapped and forced to watch his father die. Then Piccolo spent a year chucking him into mountains. Training isn’t a fun physical challenge, it’s preparation for the oncoming existential threat. Fights aren’t contests of strength and wits, they’re life and death. Before Cell, Gohan never got to choose. He was always very aware that these fights were too important, and he was needed. His weakness when he was five got his dad killed, and his weak spirit did it again when he faced Cell. Fighting never brought him anything but pain. He does it to protect those he loves, and because the world needs him. But he won’t ever CHOOSE to pursue it. It’s cost him too much. This is why I like Librarian Gohan and the Great SaiyaMan and all that goofiness. Gohan is getting some of his lost childhood back, and reclaiming some of his lost joy. Kindness is not weakness. He’s not a coward and he doesn’t back down when needed. He literally becomes a superhero because he still has an urge to use his strength for good. For the first time in his life, he’s doing what he wants! And he doesn’t want to be a beast. I don’t think Future Gohan wanted to be a beast either. He was forced into it by the deaths of his father and everyone else he knew. The stakes were so high it didn’t matter how he felt. He had to become someone he didn’t like, for the sake of protecting Trunks and what was left of the world.
@MangoAnimations0624
@MangoAnimations0624 Ай бұрын
This is like... I dunno even what to say, just, good writing- I'm literally not sure what to say-
@xen-je3re
@xen-je3re Ай бұрын
this is super insightful
@Mr._Maestro6969
@Mr._Maestro6969 Ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@Ilikesceptile11
@Ilikesceptile11 Ай бұрын
Think of it. Every time Gohan fights from raditz up to cell was forced. He 'fought' raditz because he was going to kill his dad. He fought nappa and Vegeta because his potential was the most thing needed to win. He fought the Frieza force on namek because he wanted to collect the dragon balls and revive piccolo. He fights 17 and 18 because they have threatening the world for 13 years. He fights 19 and 20 because he heard of the androids' terror (even though they're not the same) and he even hit 20 to stop him from absorbing and killing piccolo. He fights cell because like with the Saiyans, his potential was really needed to win
@agzone7226
@agzone7226 Ай бұрын
What pisses me off ain't the wasted potential, but rather the fake epiphany everytime something happens. The writters beat the shit out of Gohan, then he says he's gonna train to become stronger, proceeds to get his ass beat again, and repeat, What I wish we had was a middle-ground between Future Gohan and librarian Gohan, a character who loves studying and spending time with his family, but is willing to spend some time keeping up with the higher ups of the verse and actually be able to protect his family. If, after the Ressurection F saga, he consistently trained instead of going all out 3 days before T.o.P, his current Beast Form wouldn't feel unearned. He doesn't have to be the strongest, just strong enough to be believeable when you see him smack Cell Max.
@kotasynthesisthirtyfive7962
@kotasynthesisthirtyfive7962 Ай бұрын
I’ll say my take on it. Future gohan kinda feels like a result, of him trying to become his father. Some people even say that future gohan lack the same hidden power he always carried as a kid because of this. It may be disappointing to a lot of fans that present gohan doesn’t like fighting, but he’s already far stronger than his future self. Not to mention he hates fighting- idk about you guys but I’d be pretty bummed if the character we all praise for his power, hated what he was doing. In the manga goku even apologize within dragon ball super. He knew his son didn’t want to fight, but he had too. Now gohan should at least train once in a while - and he is now from what I’m seeing, but let’s not bash on current gohan just because he achieved his dream.
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
Thank you for saying your take on it, I liked hearing what you had to say and actually agree with a lot of your points. However, I don't feel like it was because he was trying to become his Dad but because he didn't have the luxury of having peaceful times and getting to study or go to school. With Goku and almost everyone else dead he had a responsibility with his power to protect the earth and trunks from the androids, and that's the character of his aspect I like so much. Current Gohan is of course stronger than Future Gohan but it's more his character and personality, not his actual strength that I think is wasted potential. And I want to make this clear I am actually a fan of current Gohan and think his character is very nuanced and interesting, I just also think there was a lot of times throughout the show that he was not handled correctly and could've been an amazing character is he was focused on more
@user-zn4sr1ll1c
@user-zn4sr1ll1c Ай бұрын
I love Gohan as he is, bc he represents what all dudes HAVE to do even though they don't like doing that thing they set out to do as providers. I can't relate to they hobbyist Goku in this regard, but that time where Gohan found his way home and saw his mother a few feet away but remembered the sayans, and his obligations to CHOOSE to turn away his comfort space was a defining moment. This internal juggle never stops either. Most people aren't the guy who likes to do the beneficiary self striving stuff Goku does. They're Gohans, who gotta go to work, or the gym, or that event, it's so refreshing. I feel DBZ would lose more than gain if that part of his character was taken.
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
I actually completely agree with you, Gohan's character works because of his personality and how he doesn't like violence and the juxtaposition this presents in comparison to him being a saiyan a literal warrior race. I still really like the Gohan we have no, but I feel Future Gohan is what you're talking about but to an even more extreme. In that universe he quite literally has to ignore his wants and desires, he doesn't have to option to go to school and study, he is forced to be the man of the house and protector of earth after Goku and everyone else who can protect the world dies. Thanks for the comment tho you raise some really good points about Goku's character
@autobot622
@autobot622 Ай бұрын
There's no excuse mystic gohan didn't kill buu
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
you think Gohan should've been the one to kill buu?
@renmojito6796
@renmojito6796 Ай бұрын
@@HiddenSH_ If not majin vegeta taking the dub against buu then surely gohan against buu. He did say he was there to "kill" him. But ends up playing around instead.
@juliostevens9480
@juliostevens9480 28 күн бұрын
Goku was meant to be our hero from day 1 if you follow him from OG Dragonball. AT realized that at the end and gave us back Goku. Of course if Gohan ended up finishing the Buu arc like a badass and Goku stayed dead that would have been cool too but more depressing.
@young_shaad5227
@young_shaad5227 27 күн бұрын
​@@renmojito6796Majin Vegeta would make the whole arc end so abruptly, same with Gohan. Wether you feel like someone else should've killed buu please look at the narrative of the story and realize it was never meant to be for one guy to beat buu, everyone had to
@renmojito6796
@renmojito6796 27 күн бұрын
@@young_shaad5227 You're only basing it on how the story played out and not how the story could of played out. Let me spin this story to you a different way. Do you know who the main villain of the cell arc was? it was gero, before toryama was asked to make a new main villain. Then they made 17+18 and then he was asked again to make a better villain. Fastfoward to Cell, those transformations were also something asked of him to improve cell. Majin vegeta definitely could of killed buu with this in mind. In fact, who said he had to of killed buu right at that particular scene?
@gabriel10169
@gabriel10169 Ай бұрын
There's a great scene in Xenoverse 2 when Time Patrol Trunks tries to stop Future Gohan from going to his last battle. From the conversation they have Gohan knows that he's going to die if he goes but chooses to go anyway because people will die and he sees Trunks grown up and realizes that the future will be safe. Even if he will never see it.
@aokyoutsuki7744
@aokyoutsuki7744 Ай бұрын
You earned a bloody sub mate, love these
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
appreciate that so much bro!! as a small creator that means a lot to me, check out my other videos and let me know what you think :) also got a MHA vid coming in the next couple weeks
@Nachodaddy19
@Nachodaddy19 Ай бұрын
I do agree that Gohan SHOULD HAVE become the main protagonist of the series after the cell saga and that his character was somewhat wasted in the buu saga and onwards. However, recently, many people including myself have come to realize that Gohan, who spent his entire childhood fighting for his life and watching those closest to him die right in front of him deserved to have a normal life- yk, go to school, start a family, and achieve his dream of becoming a scholar. Do I think his happy ending could have been executed better? Yes, having Gohan as the main character and watching him earn that happy ending would’ve been great. Do I think he still deserves at least a little peace after having an arguably terrible childhood? Absolutely.
@LateNightStrawhat1
@LateNightStrawhat1 Ай бұрын
Love the video keep pushing king!
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
THANK YOU BROTHER!! I appreciate that so much, One Piece videos coming soon the GOAT
@dumbymcon
@dumbymcon Ай бұрын
Underrated video ngl 😭
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
THANK YOU!!! I really appreciate the nice comment :)
@leminer4049
@leminer4049 Ай бұрын
a good and short comment I encountered explained it best "Gohan is like the talented kid at sports that wants to do something else with his life but people around him just can't fathom he wouldn't want to be the star"
@mrwabble
@mrwabble Ай бұрын
wish you could see my face when I realized you only had 100 subs dude keep this up great video
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
awww bro that is actually so sweet, im a small creator so to see this comment actually made my day man, you dont know how much i appreciate that!!!
@averyfranklin9563
@averyfranklin9563 Ай бұрын
I will always defend nerd Gohan for one big reason. Gohan in the main timeline is HAPPY. He is able to live a life of his choosing and not one that was thrust on to him by the world constantly being at stake. He has consistently stepped up to the plate in times of crisis. He did it with the sayains, with Frieda, with the androids, buu, tournament of power, etc. Goku, Vegeta, and even Piccolo just have an innate passion for battle and surpassing their limits. Gohan is his own person with different priorities and he has that right to do so. He just doesn’t like fighting! Sure it’s something he can do but does that really mean he should if there’s not threat to be prepared for constantly? He cares much more about his studies and his family. We’ve seen what happens to him in another timeline and it ends in his demise. We got to see what it was like for him having to be the sole protector of the earth but it still ring true to his character. He always steps up when he’s needed and will always protect the innocent. A lot of people just want Gohan to be Goku 2.0 and I really just don’t understand why. Just let the man be happy! He’s done plenty.
@DADRB0B55
@DADRB0B55 22 күн бұрын
Gohan being a nerd was never the problem, in fact all versions of Gohan are nerds. RoF Gohan for example is a straight flanderized version of his character for what seems like a gag to ruin a fans mood. You think Gohan being a massive nerd would turn up something more relevant than being a bug researcher, very mundane considering the buildup
@wildhogOW
@wildhogOW Ай бұрын
Drinking game: Take a shot everytime Hiddensh says "potential" 💀💦
@wildhogOW
@wildhogOW Ай бұрын
i habr alcuhuk poisssuning now
@Jonathan-eu7gx
@Jonathan-eu7gx Ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@nj2063
@nj2063 Ай бұрын
Brilliant! First time viewer and I'm already subbing!
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
THANK YOU!! As a small creator that means a lot hearing that, I'm really glad you liked the video!!
@KoongYe
@KoongYe 25 күн бұрын
It speaks to the immaturity of a person when they spout this kind of nonsense about Gohan's "wasted potential." It really comes from the misunderstanding of Gohan's character as a whole. Gohan is by nature a pacifist. From infancy he never wanted to fight anything but has constantly been thrown into the harshest battles. Future Gohan is my favorite DBZ character but Future Gohan's story is not one of a glorious warrior as you say it is but a tragedy where someone who never wanted to fight had to fight for 13+ years alone to save the ones he love. Adult Gohan(not Future Gohan) is what the Z-fighters fought for: the freedom and peace to do what they want to do with their lives. Future Trunks understands this as he encounters Gohan living a normal life and finds purpose. Sure Goku (and Vegeta) might be disappointed with where Gohan turned out to be, but I am sure you (or most people) didn't turned out the way your parents want you to be or where they thought your potential lied. The way you said "studying is cringe" really says otherwise. You say Gohan ran like a coward, but I need to remind you that Gohan was there in every arc of the story so I dunno what you are getting at there.
@atomgamer7853
@atomgamer7853 15 күн бұрын
I don't like this belief of Gohan's whole character being a pacifist by nature because before Cell and Gohan's talk about not wanting to fight, his entire character pointed towards the opposite of him not wanting to fight, sure you can say he has trauma but that trauma should be about not fighting and then bad things happening not about fighting is bad and him not wanting to fight. This characteristic of Gohan was literally shown in the first two arcs of Z when he sees what happens if he doesn't fight i.e Piccolo sacrificing his life for Gohan not to mention everyone he knows dying one by one when he doesn't fight properly and then he literally yells at his mother to shut up and let him go to Namek and then the next time he sees someone getting killed that is the namekians and when Dende is about to get killed he snaps and punches Dodoria into a house to save Dende and I don't know about you but that doesn't very pacifistic since the definition of a pacifist is someone who thinks that fighting and war are wrong. Gohan isn't a pacifist by nature and he never was and if you want to compare him to a real pacifist then look up "Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi" or better known as "Gandhi" who in case you didn't know is a real person and a true pacifist, Gohan only got retconned into being a "pacifist" in the Cell saga because Toriyama wanted him to be the main character going forward and he was tired of writing Dragon Ball as a serious battle oriented manga and he wanted to go back to the way he wrote OG Dragon Ball which was much more light hearted and adventurous and if you don't believe me just watch the transition in tone from the cell saga to the highschool part of the buu saga it was a literal 180 in tone. So he retconned Gohan's character but after that failed and Goku got his mc status back Gohan's character remained ruined. Sure you're not wrong about Gohan's nature being one more of a pacifist than a fighter but that only applies to the current Gohan not his character as a whole and just because it got retconned doesn't mean that what happened before didn't happen. So this belief that Gohan is a pacifist is just an illusion created by Toriyama to make it so he doesn't have to write such a serious battle manga and since Toriyama did make that change I can't disagree that current Gohan is a "pacifist" but if we're looking at his character as a whole meaning from the time we were introduced to him in his early childhood to until now then that's a whole different story.
@yukikid2195
@yukikid2195 26 күн бұрын
That “was a beast” line was such a missed opportunity
@TheDeathmail
@TheDeathmail 26 күн бұрын
The sad truth is, I feel that wasted potential just can never be avoided...
@htospider77
@htospider77 8 күн бұрын
How do you only have 244 subscribers dude
@maritimesteak8540
@maritimesteak8540 Ай бұрын
Gohans character could be excellent if used consistently in dire circumstances but he can't always have the spotlight on him because gohans character isn't good to be the main character every arc in dragon ball but for serious arcs I'd say yeah
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
I completely agree, I think Gohan could've been such an amazing character if he was focused on and done correctly but unfortunately there was so many times where he was pushed to the way side because he wasn't the mc
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool Ай бұрын
Gohan fumbles the ball so many times. Cell future Gohan dabura and even super Buu. Dude messes up all the time Future Gohan if he was smarter would have ran to Mr popo to get the chamber training. We know senzu beans still exist. Especially manga version where trunks was already a super Saiyan. One chamber training session with as many senzu beans as possible and these two would have been able to take on the androids cell and even dabura with ease.
@Brendan-tg4id
@Brendan-tg4id Ай бұрын
The fact his potential was wasted makes him such a great character it shows how easy his life could have been but instead he stood up to face the androids and die fighting for what he believes in
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
I agree with you, that's what makes his character so amazing and why I wish we could've got more screen time with him
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 27 күн бұрын
What I wish is that Gohan got his arm back and went into the main timeline and fused with his counterpart creating the perfect balance between the two.
@JtheBOSS
@JtheBOSS 23 күн бұрын
I don’t remember where I heard this from but I heard someone say the reason Future Gohan wasn’t as powerful as he should’ve been was a combination of the loss of his arm and the fact that he could NEVER fully relax his life had to become being always on guard and training to defeat the androids and even back in the original Dragon Ball goku was taught the importance of resting between training as a child, if Future Gohan was able to use the Room of Spirit and Time even if it was just to relax for a while and then train with Trunks as well I could see him and trunks easily beating the androids
@TheClangSwordsman
@TheClangSwordsman 21 күн бұрын
God I love future Gohan
@Crimson-jf1sl
@Crimson-jf1sl 17 күн бұрын
Watch gohan get the future gohan moment in like twenty chapters from now
@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT
@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT 28 күн бұрын
Actually people were mad... that's literally why goku survived namek AND came back in the buu saga...
@cornedbeef19ch
@cornedbeef19ch Ай бұрын
Sees beast..
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
LMAO.... beast gohan is gonna be amazing and probably saved Gohan's character but I still want Future Gohan he was awesome!
@ctv186
@ctv186 28 күн бұрын
Gohan and Uub would have an interesting conversation together.
@xyzbeats
@xyzbeats 26 күн бұрын
I wouldn't have called future gohan "better" since he was pretty fucking miserable. he was literally in constant battle since his was five just to save his fucking life, everyone around him died one by one starting with his father's disease. he was so paranoid of losing ppl around him he refused trunks' help and chose to die alone instead. he's definetly legendary but all the sacrifice he made and the risk trunks made was to gohan to have a quite happy ever being a bookworm and having a wife and a kid. Y'all tell em to fight back then put them on a Tshirt with RIP such a shame😔
@minidialga64
@minidialga64 23 күн бұрын
inazuma eleven music used, instant like
@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1
@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1 29 күн бұрын
Future Gohan got the 6 ft anime MC curse. For the people who don't know: There seems to be an unspoken rule in anime where any male lead who's 6 ft or beyond will either be killed off, made irrelevant if alive, if still alive and important, won't appear on screen that much or replaced by below 6 ft MCs Most likely the case with the 6 ft male protags and if an anime with a 6 ft MC doesn't comply to these rules, they stop getting promoted, no matter how popular they were, like Fist of the North Star and City Hunter. Not saying all of this can't happen with below 6 ft male MCs but compared to the taller ones, the difference is much, much more jarring. Just do a quick research of all the dead 6 ft and beyond anime male MCs vs the below 6 ft ones. You'll see the difference Japan seems to have a phobia for 6 ft or taller characters. Its like they think that if a male MC's above 181 cm tall, they won't be able to relate with them and strive to be like them cuz they "can't be that tall" Theres a reason why most, if not all anime, have below 6 ft male MCs and yes. 5'11/2 counts as being below 6 ft too. These heights are pretty much the same to the naked eyes but as long as theyre OFFICIALLY below 6 ft, they'll pass for the Japanese audience. As long as you're below 6 ft in anime, you can be impaled through your entire body with the biggest thickest rod and still find a way to live The good news is, this stigma seems to be slowly changing cuz there have actually been 2 male MCs from Japanese franchises recently who're 6 ft or taller, Jin from Tekken 8 n Luke from Street Fighter 6 and mind you, these 2 franchises are among the biggest fighting game franchises, a big risk from a business standpoint considering the Japanese market 1st. Maybe this implies that even the devs are slowly becoming tired of pandering to the insecurities of their Japanese market and wanna go forward with their dreams of making franchises with big strong male MCs, like the west does. Only time will tell, and I hope thats the case cuz if it is, Japan might quite possibly be breaking through one of it's biggest insecurities
@hunterkeps9058
@hunterkeps9058 25 күн бұрын
To me, Future Gohan WAS the wasted potential. He was someone who was forced into doing something he hated doing, someone who failed to save the world he swore to protect, someone who was miserable the whole time, who got surpassed by another version of him who was way younger under more favourable conditions. Future Gohan, was a failure. The OG Gohan on the other hand, grew up to be an amazing scholar, actually doing what he wanted to do. He had a family and raised a daughter, he's happy! There's other ways to achieve your potential other than becoming stronger, but even if that's all you focus on, by the time OG Gohan reached Future Gohan's age, he surpassed him a million times over. If you wanna see where that 'potential' got Future Gohan in another alternate timeline, look at Super Dragon Ball Heroes Ultra God Mission
@dudeman3594
@dudeman3594 27 күн бұрын
Honestly, while I agree that Gohan was wasted potential as a whole in Dragon Ball, saying that Future Gohan is a tease of how strong Gohan could of become fundamentally misses the tragedy of Future Gohan as a a character. He was forced to watch his friends die at the hands of the artificial humans, and was forced to be the only fighter who could hold them back for YEARS until Trunks shows up (at which point he gets killed by the artificial humans). He never even gets to reach his full potential of Super Saiyan 2 and beyond, and he is overall miserable. While the normal timeline has Gohan constantly get undermined by the stronger characters (Goku and Vegeta to be exact), we often forget that he achieved his dreams of becoming a great scholar, he started a family that he loves with all his heart, and his friends and family are all still alive, and he's a happier and more fulfilled person. He even gets to reach SS2, Potential Unleased, and Beast form in the current timeline. While it's disappointing to see him constantly be undermined and thrown to the wayside in the story, I can't help be glad that Gohan is living his best life, and we shouldn't forget that as Dragon Ball fans.
@drakera
@drakera Ай бұрын
all these characters aren't wasted potential. Sure they are fan favorites and they die off, but its to give the Shonen hero a reason to fight or give them a new transformation. or to create a villian.
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
do you not think that's wasted potential tho? Character's who are amazing and loved by fans but just get killed off to give the mc a reason to power up or a new transformation, that seems like a waste of a character to me
@rickyflores2982
@rickyflores2982 Ай бұрын
So many good points made, it really should’ve been Gohan to take the lead and begin a new chapter in the dragon franchise
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
I think he could've and it would've been very interesting but they decided not to go in that direction
@darkinin
@darkinin 28 күн бұрын
@@HiddenSH_ iirc, Toriyama's original intent with the post-Cell series was for Gohan to be the main character. However, the story he wrote following the time skip made him less likable than he had been during the Cell Games, so he brought Goku back. Later, when he gave Gohan the Ultimate powerup against Super Buu, he was trying to bring Gohan back again, but much more quickly gave it up and just brought back Goku... again. Toriyama is known to be an adhoc writer, never *really* planning things ahead, so for him to just suddenly abandon a plan of his and do something different isn't unexpected, and honestly isn't unprecedented. Androids 17 and 18 were only thought up because an editor said 19 and 20 were fucking stupid. Likewise with Cell, an editor insisted imperfect and semiperfect Cell were ugly, and forced Toriyama to hurry up and reveal the following transformation.
@duel2803
@duel2803 Ай бұрын
he was givin a good fight to the androids tho he really only died cause he got hanged up on if there were only one android he probably coulda survived
@Betterdumm
@Betterdumm 27 күн бұрын
Hopefully he will have a bigger role in sparking! zero’sstory
@bebrasmachnayq5691
@bebrasmachnayq5691 27 күн бұрын
His face looks alot like guts face during this moment 1:34
@EliF-eq5fx
@EliF-eq5fx Ай бұрын
while I do think he has wasted potential we got to remember he is HALF-SAIYAN
@yoavitanzehavy6244
@yoavitanzehavy6244 Ай бұрын
Bro I dunno what you are talking about, although nerd Gohan is annoying asf since he doesn't fight a lot and doesn't have the balance between nerdiness and fighting, Gohan always fought to help and save his closed ones and earth. And after super hero which was a sort of redemption for Gohan, we will prolly see Gohan if Toyotaro does continue the writing the series. Gohan's potential is almost full unleashed (no pun intended), his peak was between Frieza saga and Cell saga. Gohan wants to protect others like Goku, Gohan also wants to be a scholar. Even if super had him going through a dark downfall, he got some redemption in super hero. You said future Gohan fights a one sided battle, but also kid Gohan fought a one sided battle against Recoome in the Frieza saga knowing the odds of winning are almost zero.
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
I agree with you it's not Gohan's fault and I don't think the one we have at current is bad, I just think like you said in Super and some other moments throughout the show his character was handled very badly and I see it as wasted potential as they literally showed us the model for his character that all the fans already universally loved
@ironcladam2551
@ironcladam2551 Ай бұрын
Yeah it sucks future gohan never reached his full potential but thats literally the god damn point tho. Trunks future is literally supposed to always be depressing no matter what. Trunks future never gets q happy ending his future literally gets erased by xeno. Future gohan is my favorite gohan and his story was told to show how bleak trunks future is.
@ziel9474
@ziel9474 27 күн бұрын
Future Gohan also sounds more like goku while Present Gohan sounds like what he'd sound like if he's a nerd.
@young_shaad5227
@young_shaad5227 27 күн бұрын
I think your thinking of the english dub, since Future Gohan still keeps his mannerisms that make him sound different from Goku in the Japanese dub like normal Gohan
@LawHasFlow
@LawHasFlow 21 күн бұрын
While I agree that Future Gohan is a cooler more exciting version of Gohan he’s far from the potential of present day Gohan, not even talking about Super I’m just using Z in this example. Future Gohan actually stagnates in terms of power probably due to his situation and lack of others like his Father, Piccolo, or Vegeta being around to push him like they are in the present during the Cell saga. Gohan as a child during the Cell saga far exceeds Future Gohan in strength, although of course come the Buu saga he’s far from what we would’ve liked to see.
@MegaDragoDelta
@MegaDragoDelta Ай бұрын
The whole point Trunks traveled to the past, was, to prevent Gohan from having to live the life he had in the future. Gohan becoming a scholar is a realization of that dream. In times of peace, there was no need or reason for Gohan to become the character he became in Trunk’s future. After defeating Cell, mind you, being much stronger than the Androids in the future timeline, Earth became peaceful. That is why he takes the mantle of a “super hero”. And that would is an excellent call back for the recently released DBS SuperHero where Gohan, fights these so-called heroes, after himself became one. I believe we got to see exactly what you mean when he becomes Beast, as that saiyan thirst awakens as well as it did when he went SSJ2 against Cell. Gohan is Earth’s protector, as when Earth is in danger, he will always rise to the occasion, as he’s proved multiple times. Clean vid ✌️ Happy momma’s day
@undeadbook
@undeadbook 25 күн бұрын
I don't agree with a lot from this video, but I really liked Future Gohan 🥹
@lavenderpsycho
@lavenderpsycho 27 күн бұрын
People always say that because of gohan's trauma he doesn't fight and gets rusty because of it it's not who he is and even though it's true we literally see how bad it gets in the future and what he can become one would think if you've lived through a whole lot of shit you would never want to be in that position again and do something to move on but no instead gohan gets one shot by frieza's weakest form such a let down but hey at least we get top and beast gohan
@animeturnMMD
@animeturnMMD 27 күн бұрын
5:35 I mean future Gohan is cool AF, but my complain is the part of his powers because if he had the potential to beat perfect Cell, years battling the Androids would have give him more than enough experience and training to defeat them, I mean, are not the sayayins suppose to be a race that gets stronger each time their face and survive powerful enemies? so with all the time Future Gohan fought with the Androids he was bound to defeat them sooner than later... I hope to see one day an alternative universe Gohan who had defeat the Androids and even Manjin Buu by himself. XD
@jayvontavares9460
@jayvontavares9460 27 күн бұрын
To be fair current gohan was never gonna be like future gohan at all. It makes sense cause future gohan is a different timeline version of gohan, it’s like I travel to a different timeline and see a female version of me we might have similar characteristic but we’d be our own characters at the end of the day.
@KonEl17
@KonEl17 Ай бұрын
I'm not saying Gohan can't keep up with his training a bit to keep his skills on point. Gohan is not a fighter, he doesn't seek out battle and doesn't enjoy it. He will fight for a goal but not for no reason, he's a father and a provider. Goku can barely hold a job, what people seem to forget about Future Gohan HE HAD NO CHOICE. Just like Trunks has no choice I'm the matter as we saw with Trunks he also wants to have a similar life to present Gohan but he can't cuz it's just him no one else to help.
@mkalic7423
@mkalic7423 Ай бұрын
I think it was Toriyama's idea to make Gohan the next protagonist after Goku, but fans just kept asking for his return
@Cklert
@Cklert 21 күн бұрын
It was, but the unfortunate thing is that they made Gohan's character a bit docile. The High School arc wasn't popular and was a bit slow which is why Toriyama switched back to Goku.
@handsanitizer2457
@handsanitizer2457 27 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, goku fans didnt like the fact that gohan beat cell. So they ended rewriting the series to appease them. Not to mention, t didnt want to even write a series after the frieza saga. Hell he wanted to have 20 androids. But the studio wanted to shrink the series so it could be finished.
@amensbuildingjourney
@amensbuildingjourney Ай бұрын
one minute in and it doesn't work like this in dragon ball, show one character for one minute in dragon ball and the fanbase and videogames carries it. Future gohan is what it is mostly because of videogames and lore. Hit? we all hated it, nobody liked it when the anime was airing, but now? thanks to dbl, xenoverse 2, mods in bt3 and what the fans created everyone suddenly likes it. Bardock is an example of someone everyone loved already, but it evolved even further through videogames, sentences like EVERYTHIIIING all came from the fans. DB fans are known to not even watch their own anime and that's one of the reasons there can't be any wasted potential. Even black goku who really liked him, he became what he his thanks to dokkan
@jerryblue9686
@jerryblue9686 Ай бұрын
Gohan is not a warrior and he doesn’t like fighting
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
very true, that is what makes his character so good, he is a saiyan a warrior race but he is compassionate and more like a human than any other saiyan
@ichig0tchi
@ichig0tchi 28 күн бұрын
I honestly can't stand the present gohan's personality and all the free transformations he keeps getting, if anyone deserved them it was future gohan
@Eastside318
@Eastside318 29 күн бұрын
Thinking back now because of super broly has been the strongest in the universe as he got older he the same age as goku so that means he was strong enough to kill freeza cell and the androids with eas
@rutgerbauer4345
@rutgerbauer4345 Ай бұрын
But Future Gohan was never written as the main character and messiah of his timeline. That's why his fighting potential was basically untapped (compared to what we saw his main timeline version achieve), especially in the manga where 17 alone kills him, apparently with ease. He was the martyr that motivated the actual MC Trunks to reach his own potential and become the messiah of his timeline. Even though main timeline Gohan became a nerd and had been slacking off on his training in the Buu Saga, he still never backed off from a fight and thanks to the BS potential unlock (far from the first one in the series) became the strongest unfused fighter at the time... Just not the most competent one, but we also can't know if Future Gohan would have been more competent against that kind of opponent, even if he had the same power. Granted, DBS Gohan is a total parody, but so is everyone and everything in that show anyway! 😂
@reedm7619
@reedm7619 21 күн бұрын
Wasted potential in anime... Doesn't that just mean that the writing in anime is bad in general if it's so common there? I'm not surprised
@DADRB0B55
@DADRB0B55 22 күн бұрын
Toriyama shills have done so much damage to Gohan character & perception, they act like RoF Gohan was what he was always meant to be when he already went threw that phase of character development in the Buu saga. Beast Gohan is nice but it’s a little too late to fix the damage done to his character, the new form just feels like the writers giving Gohan fans a freebie to stop complaining. GT Gohan is arguably a more honorable depiction than DBS Gohan.
@Dreamcancel696
@Dreamcancel696 Ай бұрын
Beast Gohan folds future Gohan.. we may get the Gohan we want yet
@juliostevens9480
@juliostevens9480 28 күн бұрын
I think it goes with the mentality of Japanese culture a little bit. You can be a badass warrior but if the next generation can grow up softer and more into books you’ll do it. I mean it can exist in any culture but goes to another level in Japanese culture. Plus Gohan was never truly a fighter he was dragged into it. Without the threats to the Earth he would have never been a fighter.
@blackwing3032
@blackwing3032 Ай бұрын
wasn't that that the goal tho? to fight for peace? let the men enjoy his DESERVED rest
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
also factual LMAO but still I want to see more of Future Gohan being COLD
@thebrand8437
@thebrand8437 Ай бұрын
You forgot Pikkon....
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 27 күн бұрын
It even washed when you realize that future Gohan from the manga could only barely fight one Android and in the anime was able to go Toe to Toe with both of them. The anime version of him is the one we want. I actually did the calculations to see how strong both of them are compared to each other and the Manga version only has a base power of 5 million battle power and when going Super Saiyan it becomes 250 million compared to the anime where his base power is 20 million and his Super Saiyan form is 1 billion sadly together the Androids have a power level of around 2 billion 119 million battle power together and that's only because Android 18 has her power suppressed because of Dr Gero most likely original power level was 800 million. What about that the power would have been exactly 2 billion 300 million together. However the 20 million base power of Gohan is actually do because he lost his arm and it's not mentally healthy in his mind otherwise he'd be four times stronger than this which means is base power level should have been 80 million and a Super Saiyan form should have been 4 billion more than enough to defeat the Androids so he was still a wasted potential because he was never at his best even in the future timelines which is very sad.
@rockmanmix6242
@rockmanmix6242 Ай бұрын
Doesn’t he come back in dragon ball heroes as black warrior?
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
Yeah I believe he does make an appearance
@Ellert00
@Ellert00 Ай бұрын
This video is meh. Current Gohan is stronger than future Gohan, even kid Gohan from the main story universe beats future Gohan. So you can't want him because he displays some sort of amazing unlocked potential as a fighter. And as a character he's just angry and angst filled. That's not really a fun character to have as a protagonist, if they took the story after kid Gohan beats Cell in a direction where he abandons his studies and just keeps training, is he still supposed to be all angry and angst filled several years down the line even if he didn't lose everyone like future Gohan? Future Gohan only works for a storyline where he's set up to fail.
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
I think a lot of your points are valid but I don't completely agree. Future Gohan isn't about strength alone, of course current Gohan and even kid Gohan are stronger but it's about the kind of person Future Gohan was and his mentality to fight for what he believes in no matter what. I think you miss understand Future Gohan, he is not angry and full of angst, even as Future Gohan he is still incredibly compassionate and put his faith in Trunks knowing he wouldn't be able to save the world, this is show in his speech about how someone will take his place and that they will pay for every person they have killed. His motivations aren't that of anger but trying to protect the world. He is also an incredibly kind father figure to Trunks
@marson3000
@marson3000 Ай бұрын
I don’t really agree and I don’t really think present timeline Gohan and Future Gohan can be compared to each other. Just based on who Gohan is as a person we all already know that he has always set a goal for himself to pursue a career and live a life of peace and tranquility. He never had this drive and desire to live a life of combat like his father and Vegeta. Future Gohan was forced into a role that he had no other choice but to fulfill. As basically the earth’s last line of defense until Future Trunks came around, he had a responsibility to do everything he could to stop the Androids from terrorizing the world. Present timeline Gohan currently has the opportunity to pursue and live out his dream that he worked so hard to achieve. He now has a career as well as a loving wife and daughter. He’s even still open to fighting all for the sake of protecting his loved ones. He may not be the Gohan that the majority want, but once you start remembering who he is as a character you start to realize that this is the person that he was always meant to be and that’s perfectly fine.
@DarciaSidTTV
@DarciaSidTTV Ай бұрын
Future Gohan was perfect !! :(
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
FAX
@james3247
@james3247 21 күн бұрын
I’m gonna disagree, future gohan to me is trying too hard to be like his father (a goku clone) and present gohan to me has more of his own identity.
@DelitoBlue
@DelitoBlue 27 күн бұрын
Gohan wanted to be a scholar and what tf do you want him to do bro, he likes studying not fighting and how will present gohan will be like future Gohan he din´t live in an apocalyptic to turn the same way as future Gohan
@robertmoore294
@robertmoore294 Ай бұрын
But it was future trunks that stop all that from happening. If he have not went back in time to tell the others what will happen then all the z fighters would have been killed including gohan. So why be a BS about it? It make sense why trunks warn goku and the rest of the z fighters what will happen and kid gohan would not beaten cell.
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
100% if trunks didn't go back in time and warn them they all would've died and their universe would've turned out like Future Gohans. So for the greater good he had to do it but unfortunately because of that he didnt get future gohan
@kadajnoir7369
@kadajnoir7369 Ай бұрын
Sado? No
@treysavage4570
@treysavage4570 27 күн бұрын
Bro i have too completely disagree, future Gohan is definitely not his full potential dude is weak as hell 🤣. Future Gohan didn't gain ssj until he was an adult & he doesn't even have ssj2. The only reasons people like Future Gohan are his design and his personally. This version of Gohan actually trains, and he seems to enjoy fighting unlike the main timeline Gohan. But other than that Future Gohan is trash the piccolo that fought android 17 would low diff Future Gohan. Also Goku did not give up cause he wanted Gohan to be the hero did you even watch the anime or read the manga. Goku could not win he was actually no match for cell. Cell was holding back so much power he told Goku to eat senzu bean so they can keep going cause while Goku was going all out exhausting his energy supply Cell was still warming up lmao 🤣 Gohan was the only person that could win.
@carson5151
@carson5151 Ай бұрын
Why would Gohan continue to fight when he doesn’t want to. He was never a fighter didn’t want to be
@TheDeathmail
@TheDeathmail 26 күн бұрын
You are wrong about one thing, at the time, people weren't happy with Gohan taking over the show... That said, I think it's not that we hated the Gohan we got... most of us can appreciate him... The issue is that he got weaker... If Gohan stayed the strongest and kept on training, we wouldn't have minded all the goofy stuff.... We wanted Gohan to be the ace... to stay that way.... And not cause some old god did a weird dance but through his own hard work....
@11e1cess3
@11e1cess3 Ай бұрын
Fans wanted Gohan to be Goku 2.0, and Toriyama said, then why not just bring Goku back? And honestly, he was right. Gohan would fucking suck as a main character.
@mylesflores8248
@mylesflores8248 Ай бұрын
In the proper setting he could be great, but I don’t think dragon ball is that setting. He was amazing in the Cell arc because the stakes were high and he was the only capable one, the other characters couldn’t rlly do anything. The arcs after, he was alright to straight up sad. Im still glad he got to live his life though, im happy for him.
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
Really? I love Goku and he brings so much to the show but I do think Gohan could've also been a really interesting main character is he was focused on properly and written with care
@HiddenSH_
@HiddenSH_ Ай бұрын
@@mylesflores8248 I agree with you, i think he could've been a really good main character but Dragon Ball being a battle shounen wasn't the show for that
@Cklert
@Cklert 21 күн бұрын
No fans, just didn't want him to be so docile. The High-school arc was slow and frankly, uninteresting. I think Toriyama realized he completely neutered Gohan's character development by saying he didn't like fighting. If Gohan instead was trying to project peace through his strength that would've been better. He doesn't like fighting, but knows he needs to be strong in order to maintain his peaceful life.
@rifasclub
@rifasclub 27 күн бұрын
The problem is that you're wrong, absolutely wrong. Goku was never going to revive, but by popular demand, Toriyama brought him back. People just wasn't ready for Goku to get replaced. They even created Goten as a callback for Goku, but alas, it wasn't meant to be. Also, super high testosterone characters really aren't in DB DNA's, we get them from time to time, but Toriyama (may he rest in peace) was all about nimble, inoffensive looking characters.
@LostMystics
@LostMystics 28 күн бұрын
im sorry buddy, i had to dislike. the same point was getting driven over & over to the point i quite literally became annoyed. you got somethin goin for ya, just work on the script more.
@grimmly
@grimmly Ай бұрын
Future gohan is boring tbh. Everything that is special about future gohan, we’ve seen in a million other characters before. Realistic adult gohan is a huge breath a fresh air in DBZ as he’s like the only person to develop as a character since the Buu Saga lol
@grimmly
@grimmly Ай бұрын
Great video tho.
@Roro0189
@Roro0189 Ай бұрын
Let me tell you why we never got future gohan as a recurrent character...it's because DBZ and even worse, DBS were always bloody shit and future gohan is way too based for those. Only DB is good.
@williamspellman856
@williamspellman856 Ай бұрын
How can DBZ be shit when it’s the only reason you have Future Trunks and Gohan
@NmD_3
@NmD_3 Ай бұрын
@@williamspellman856😭it just doesn’t make sense.
@Roro0189
@Roro0189 Ай бұрын
@@williamspellman856 because they gave it to us and then did absolutely nothing with it
@AnIdiotsLantern
@AnIdiotsLantern Ай бұрын
Dude, DB is full of panty humor, pee and poop jokes, and wild stuff like gangsters who turn people into carrots. Idk
@Roro0189
@Roro0189 Ай бұрын
@@AnIdiotsLantern yeah and it's great at what it does, it also has a few moments of drama and full blown action that are apreciated because of the context and spirit of the series, that's why it hits hard to see Krilin dead or Goku reuniting with his grandpa, etc, etc.
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