Goku vs The Big 3 With Every Power is Unfair...

[@lonkstakes]

“It’s Just Big Me” - Goku

[@jeremysprimestudio4756]

Seems like it

[@void_fruit212]

WHY ISN'T MR SATAN'S DYNAMITE PUNCH IN THE VID IM FNNA UNSUBB Also hi lonk👋

[@menaceFasho]

BUM

[@jeremysprimestudio4756]

​@@void_fruit212 the strongest move in fiction

[@supercooljoeeman7268]

@@void_fruit212 He said he needed to make them as strong as reasonably possible With Dynamite punch Goku would even have a fight, I'd just be an execution

[@TangyGuest1]

"F*ck the big 3, it's just big me." - Kaka-Dot

[@Kakarot64.]

Oooo theres another me over there

[@nickdirado929]

K-Rot

[@loth-alda]

Kaka-Goat

[@Dizastermaster.]

It's still K-Dot LOL

[@RahulSleepwalker11]

Luffy u right about fuck the 3 there's only Big D in Video PROFF

[@DexLeroy]

"Cell's Multiform technique" Ah yes, the move he inherited from Tien-

[@JamesusLim]

It's tiens technique but cell perfected it

[@Bengams]

PERFECT🧫

[@EternalAnkh]

Nobody watched Dragonball;

[@Lekushy]

@@EternalAnkh Tien divided his power in parts, cell have clones with EQUAL power

[@EternalAnkh]

@@Lekushy I don't buy that. First of all, that scene was anime-only. Secondly, Cell was holding back against Goku. Thirdly, Goku was able to defeat four full power Cells when he couldn't beat one previously? So yeah, while that theory is widely accepted in the fandom, I call cap. It seems pretty obvious that that isn't the case, to me.

[@bezel95]

Even after all this time it’s crazy to think that Guldo, freaking Guldo has a better control of time stop than Hit. So since Frieza doesn’t need to breathe, Goku can just hold his breath and stop time indefinitely.

[@socketyellow3]

Damn you right, but I mean grand priest abilities have better control over time and can reverse it so that’s what always was supposed to happen (no flashpoints).

[@AlphaAbyss_]

Goku can move in stopped time he doesn't need to worry about any of that as we say he can do this multiple times he has inaccessible speed

[@Devilboy_1029]

Also, Goku has the power to turn people into carrots by touching them (That one Rabbit guy who was punted into the moon by pre hermit school Kid Goku)and also has the ability to kill people if they have even a HINT of impurity in their heart (Devilmite beam) and invisibility (Yamcha fight)

[@LegoGoldenFreeza]

Monkey wins

[@averageyoutuber5393]

​@@Devilboy_1029can't he also copy the other 3's abilities therefore their whole verse's abilities? 73 can do that💀

[@hypn00s197]

Just to recapitulate, this Goku: -Is smart enough to create and repair machines (Bulma, Dr. Briefs, Dr. Gero, Dr. Senbei, Gachan) -Master swordman (Yajirobe, Trunks) -Can Paralyze (Chaiotzu, General Blue) -Is invisible (Invisible Man) -Can transform into anyone (Oolong, Puar) -Instant teleport to any place (Kibito) -Can seal (Master Mutaito, Master Roshi, Beerus) -Can manipulate people's minds (Babidi) -Can modify his own body (Piccolo, Majin Buu) -Absorb energy (Android 19, Dr. Gero) -Can turn people into stone (Dabura) -Can turn people into candy (Majin Buu) -Can turn people into carrots (Monster Carrot) -Can heal (Dende, Majin Buu, Whis) -Has regeneration (Piccolo, Cell, Majin Buu) -Has magic (Babidi, Kaioshin) -Doesn't need to breath (Frieza) -Can see the future (Uranai Baba, Oracle fish). -Can change bodys with anyome (Ginyu) -Can absorb people (Cell, Majin Buu) -Can create monsters (Kami, Mr. Popo, Saichoro) -Can create "sons" (Demon King Piccolo, Cell) -Can Instakill anyone with at least a bit of evil (Devilman) -Can survive in space (Frieza, Beerus, Whis, Buu) -Has unlimited energy (Androids) -Is inmortal (Zamas) -Can manipulate Time (Gurdo, Hit, Wiss) -Can destroy anything (Gods of Destruction) -Can revive people (Angels, Dragons) -Can alter reality (Shenron, Polunga, Super Shenron) -Can delete universes (Zenosama) -Toon Force (Arale) -Has really cool poses (Gohan, Ginyu Force)

[@gokmendogan95]

Dont forget that he has the Grand priests abilities, the Manga abilities (i dont want to Spoiler rn) and infinite Knowledge, i forgot his Name but he is relevant in the Manga, i think moro and/or Granolah arc.

[@personexistingnot]

He should also have what ever the fuck zalamas ability are.

[@MountainMemelord]

​@@gokmendogan95Zuno.

[@redsponge6747]

Was shaking until I saw he got ginyu’s posed 😮‍💨(they’re cooked)

[@slamaniamine5491]

​@@personexistingnot We don't talk about zalama lol he solo all goku universe let alone big 3

[@denmla7982]

TFS Goku: "umm im going to hakai you now"

[@razzo086]

Why would he do that when he’s got a far superior ability in Zeno’s eraser ability

[@wtfzaee]

​@@razzo086but he can use hakai he did it in the manga against zamasu

[@razzo086]

@@wtfzaee yeah I know, there is nothing that I don’t know about in db

[@wtfzaee]

@@razzo086 he doesnt have abilities like zeno unless were talkin about kakumei goku

[@razzo086]

@@wtfzaee no I was talking about the premise of this video ‘if Goku had all the powers of the db universe’. It just a stupid what if scenario.

[@IrisUvU]

Big three: lets do this Goku: xenoverse ssj goku loading screen Edit:dont cause a war down there otherwise I'll have to spank all of ya'll with my sandal

[@RED_RIBBON17]

We doesn't need xeno goku. Dbs goku solo them😂

[@baconlord2545]

@@RED_RIBBON17**Prowler’s theme intensifies**

[@lazerbreaker4758]

God fusion goku:hey there we are goku

[@AlwaysOfflineForever]

Isn't Xenoverse Goku non-cannon?

[@baconlord2545]

@@AlwaysOfflineForever It’s a meme. Search: “Ssj Xenoverse Goku prowler theme”

[@Man_0f_Trenches]

A ninja, a ghost and a pirate can’t beat an alien god. Big shocker.

[@Stunt877]

Well technically Naruto is half alien and we would consider Luffy an alien since he isn’t obvious on a planet like earth.

[@normalcrab]

@@Stunt877 negawatt

[@kammmx3571]

@@Stunt877do u know what an alien is? Someone not native to the planet. Luffy is native to the planet

[@derekhakeem8]

⁠@@Stunt877yo, im not that big on naruto but is he really part alien ?

[@YutakaKeiji]

​@@Stunt877 bro's in 8th grade

[@jax3845]

Goku - raises his hand The big 3 - oh shi *Gets erased*

[@danielgedeon6454]

How is Goku erasing Naruto forever with Infinite Izanagi ?

[@jax3845]

@@danielgedeon6454 Goku can wish that nurato is a normal human

[@VitunVatiVille]

@@danielgedeon6454 Zeno erased Zamasu from existence who had the dragon grant him invincible body which literally made him unbeatable through damage among other things and Zeno still erased him.(The entire universe at that point since Zamasu literally became it) In other words Zeno has power which gives the middle finger to immortality and other things the Super Dragon wishes could even do making him literally omnipotent or beyond.

[@markjack9772]

I know this is a dumb argument but technically we've never seen super Shenron make a wish for itself

[@EndlessPower520]

@@markjack9772 Goku makes a clone like tien and then wishes to himself ig

[@SD8bit_]

Thinking about Goku ripping off a piece of himself to absorb someone like The Thing is so cursed

[@lonkstakes]

“Hey, you’re now me Goku!”

[@void_fruit212]

Hey it's me Goku 2

[@KuroFrog]

Hey it’s me Goku 3

[@l0sts0ul89]

​@@void_fruit212 GoTwo

[@l0sts0ul89]

​@@KuroFrog Go3

[@TheFinalChapters]

Guldo's time stop lasts as long as he can hold his breath. A bunch of characters in DB don't need to breathe. Therefore, time is already permanently stopped for this fight.

[@shahzarsshowshow4441]

then Goku uses true erasure (Zeno's ability) to erase them from existence

[@thegreatbeavers]

Also Goku can gain Immortality.. yeah bro be unbeatable 💀

[@chaosmonkrill]

Because they don’t need too doesn’t mean it’s a ability

[@kowicz_comedy3625]

​@@thegreatbeaverswell Luffy would be immortal, Naruto would technically immortal and ichigo is just effing bonkers with all the bankai, resurreccions and the Sternritter abilities

[@Gamerdad3000]

Ssg surpasses time good try though

[@Kale_2247]

8:30 You left out gremmys the visionary which is literally the power of imagination. Though it might not change anything

[@nicholasaugello2534]

The image of a goku action figure just looking down at his defeated opponents is just hilarious

[@froliy]

timestamp?

[@nicholasaugello2534]

@@froliy you have to imagine it

[@powerjolt7215]

​@@nicholasaugello2534I need you in my life

[@RealComixx]

I’m about to buy big 3 action figures just to do this

[@ivan_d_feets4495]

Ill do you one better. The goku figure has that one sinister patrick star face.

[@chrisgomez8342]

Goku would straight up be Son Wukong 💀

[@chopper7867]

Son Gukong

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

Far weaker but essentially very similar.

[@personallypeson1007]

Walmart version of him but yeah that still means goku gonna beat the big 3

[@jameschristopher2540]

Nowhere near as strong. Not even Rimuru’s lvl. Still a lot of the anime’s that neg Db verse STILL neg him.

[@mohammedshayan4163]

Cannon Goku Negs Rimuru In Base Bro. That Transgender Kid Has Been Debunked To Universal​@@jameschristopher2540

[@OmegaHPK]

Dude you nailed it.. I was thinking the whole video TIME FREEZE TIME FREEZE TIME FREEZE!!!

[@sharkt9877]

And if he has everyone’s ability then just like frieza he doesn’t need to breathe. Aka he can stop time. Forever.

[@theendofthestart8179]

But Luffy can just go to the future. So as soon as time is stopped Luffy is already in the next moment so time stop does nothing

[@sharkt9877]

@@theendofthestart8179 luffy can’t go to the future

[@theendofthestart8179]

@@sharkt9877 toki toki no mi yes he can.

[@OmegaHPK]

@@theendofthestart8179 good point there if it was technique vs technique. With Zamasu’s ability to exist in all timelines, the fact that Luffy could go to the future wouldn’t matter though. But that is just how busted DB can be.

[@TotallyCluelessGamer]

The funny thing to me with this hypothetical matchup is that at a bare minimum Goku and Ichigo are both effectively unkillable and will just grow stronger the harder their opponent(s) try.

[@thatboialek4536]

bro literally got free timestop now

[@HOLDENPOPE]

That actually wouldn't work on Ichigo since he has Mimihagi's powers. Mimihagi is the embodiment of stagnation and could not be seen by The Almighty, implying it has Acausality, AKA, immunity to almost all timehax.

[@rlyheem-it5mc]

@@HOLDENPOPE well even if hes immune to time stopping, ichigo still has to be physically faster than goku for it to even matter and goku is canonically in base form 30+ thousands of times faster than light ichigo in all reality couldnt even possibly be able to think of a fraction of a thought in his own head before the fight was already over while goku doesnt even need to think at all thanks to ultra instinct goku with all of his verses abilities goku doesnt need to breathe eat sleep and never gets tired and is immune to all changes of time and reality thanks to zenos and the kais abilities zeno has the ability to exist after all of reality meaning everything in existence which includes the multiverse time and space or infinity gets destroyed simply put can survive the destruction of things by definition cant be destroyed and be completely fine and the kais have the ability to be immune as well cause weve seen zamasu who was in the future be completely fine when his same exact past self was wiped from existence meaning in theory even if you somehow destroyed goku even when he is invincible in every way you can fathom another goku from a millisecond before or after could simply keep on fighting him like nothing even happened meaning you have infinite gokus to deal with let alone one

[@jirenthegray5776]

@@HOLDENPOPE Mimihagi has never resisted time stop. No one in Bleach has. You're glazing here.

[@Iiveichibanreaction]

@@jirenthegray5776 the most recent episode in the anime being about it, yall crazy

[@staarfinger7322]

​@HOLDENPOPE ichigo doesnt have mimihagi in him.

[@NinjaXFiles]

At first I thought this was a wacky video, but it actually makes you appreciate all the crazy stuff that has happened all over Dragon Ball history.

[@jameschristopher2540]

And the other big 3

[@BESTMOAD]

​@jameschristopher2540 mainly how more overpowered dragonballs hacks are ill keep rubbing it in

[@HassanAhmed-rf9xr]

@@BESTMOAD the other 3 are just as op

[@TriedYan]

It’s ironic cos dragon ball hax is never hyped up but some how Goku still wins

[@lonkstakes]

Partially why I made this video at all

[@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867]

It's because most Dragon Ball hax are overcome by simply being stronger than the hax. Don't want to lose to Hit? Simply be so fast and combat smart that when he "skips" time you are already beating his ass. Opponent has insane regeneration, hit them with a massive beam that covers their entire body 50x over and completely obliterate them on the atomic level. Is a Gag character beating you because they are a gag character? Just be so strong that gags cease to work on you and Hakai them. In Dragonball hack resistance is just a perk of being strong, in that regard Dragonball hax really don't fit the traditional definition.

[@EdgeyStyle]

​@@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 dont want to loose to MUI? Simply be faster and you'll touch him

[@yukipuki-gt6yc]

horse sht writting

[@TriedYan]

@@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 this is interesting cos then in cross verses scaling shouldn’t this power, speed and combat intelligence be taking into account if a hax would be valuable against a dragon ball character at all sometimes it is but I feel like we don’t talk about it enough

[@Aurelius-bf3yx]

Great video but there are two abilities in Bleach you didn't mention that could make a difference here I think, the Miracle which would Ichigo nearly invulnerable and increase his power based on how dire the situation is and the Visonary which would ley him do anything he can imagine. Not sure if that would be enough to win just that they're important to consider

[@Szukiyken]

Plot manipulation(from Arale) or Shenron Wish ability negs

[@ThyBait]

@@Szukiykenplot manp doesn’t mean shit super shenron gets hard countered

[@Szukiyken]

@@ThyBait no it does mean shit, because it's a hax

[@ThyBait]

@@Szukiyken “because it’s a hax” everyone has hax dipshit. once again it doesn’t mean shit because beerus easily got past it with hakai aka HAX. Meaning arale is fodder to anyone with hax.

[@simonservsuck6711]

Oh the balance and antithesis can probably help too.

[@odd-eyes6363]

Goku having multiple kinds of immortality in this what if is so fitting considering his roots as a version of the Monkey King, whom became immortal five different times or something

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

I think he had 100+ levels of Immortality.

[@fizbutreal]

@@CerealExperimentsMizuki6, actually

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

@@fizbutreal my bad lol, I mightve been thinking bout someone else who had hundreds of layers of Immortality and hax abilities.

[@fizbutreal]

@@CerealExperimentsMizuki yeah its alr

[@mr.q337]

Yeah lol, Sun Wukong immortality comes from: 1) Erase his name from the destiny book of the underworld 2) Drink the elixir of life 3) Eat the immortality peach 4) Eat the immortal pearl while inside the magical furnace that suppose to kill him only make his skin so hard it turned impenetrable and give him lazer eyes =))) 5) After finishing the Journey to the West, he ascended Buddhahood and name "Victorious Fighting Buddha" prety sure he also granded another immortality on top as well LOL.

[@hotlaseryt]

Goku literally becomes Omnipotent. Wish granting, reversing time, skipping time, travel in time, erasure, regeneration to the point of unkillable, immortality, absorbion, telekinesis. And that's only what my lazy ass is writing for you Edit: DAYUM im famus

[@MrAgentFish]

also androids dosent need to breath so its just a inf time stop

[@RalMaybe]

@@MrAgentFish Oh dear god you're right. and this doesn't even scratch the surface of what goku could do. someone made a video about if goku had every ability in his verse and it would be just INSANE.

[@zanzax6438]

I think goku could beat superman at this point

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

He'd be below Xeno Goku or CC Goku still sue to verse cosmology.

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

​@@zanzax6438depends on the version, there's versions such as Pre Crisis and Sword Of Superman and Prime One Million that this Goku could pretty easily beat but there's other versions such as Strange Visitor, Superman Blue, Sting Superman, Lee Superman, Milk-Man Man, Post Crisis Boom Tube Amped Superman, Cosmic Armour, Rebirth, Story Of Superman, etc..... and all of them could solo both this theoretical Goku and Xeno Goku effortlessly.

[@undedemperor4235]

Super shenron That's it

[@Sansnmm]

Also Zeno

[@IzBirch]

​@Sansnmm zeno is basically featless beyond having a very overwhelming ability. In fact he couldn't even see some of the opponents in the tournament of power.

[@Tappin_YT]

Also Arale

[@Sansnmm]

@IzBirch Zeno destroyed the universes of the losers of the tournament of power, destroying the gods of destruction, the only reason Goku won was because of his own attack that broke his limits into ultra instinct and the spirit bomb was deflected by jiren

[@cookiesthedonkey2223]

@@IzBirchso he still wins

[@Playeryewen]

Finally someone that acknowledge dbs and dbz overpowered hax it’s most of the time overlooked in matchups against other anime characters

[@BumAaz]

Bro ichigo solos Goku

[@Ratface0007]

Even without the overwhelming reality warping powers of the dragons and Xeno, Time Skip alone pushes Goku over the edge of absurdity. He’s over millions of times faster than light. Even if Time Skip only lasts a fraction of a second imagine how much he could do in that short amount of time. The other three would be dead instantly

[@GODEATER2]

goku even without everyones powers is beyond infinite speed he does not need timeskip

[@thatonerandommf]

You're forgetting that the basis for the video is equal stats. The person who made the video also forgot about the power of the Soul King, basically God. It's Zeno's powers but better

[@GODEATER2]

@@thatonerandommf zenos power isnt anywhere near gokus best ability in this fight so that doesnt really matter and one devilmite beam and ichigos dead

[@thatonerandommf]

@@GODEATER2 Zeno is the strongest thing in Dragon Ball

[@thatonerandommf]

@@GODEATER2 Also it wouldn't work since Ichigo, as a Soul Reaper, is a higher dimensional being. This is backed up using dragon ball logic where characters tank attacks by outscaling it. And that's just regular Ichigo. In this situation he'd have the Soul King's abilities which literally just make him God

[@revotempo2082]

It's kinda sad that whenever we have a BIG 3 vs anyone type situation it usually starts with everyone agreeing that Luffy is the first one to get knocked out

[@jameschristopher2540]

Agreed. I haven’t watched op but how do you think he’d fair? What are the most op DF abilities. I know Op isn’t close to finishing. So he still might get more op (no pun intended). How op can he get? Like is their some powers left he still hasn’t touched. Something about will of D idk honestly.

[@jocoolshow]

@@jameschristopher2540Luffy has some decent hax and abilities but in terms of raw stats, Naruto and Ichigo out stat Luffy by a lot

[@jameschristopher2540]

@@jocoolshow so with every ability in his verse would he be able to affect Goku? Remember he also has equal stats so no blitzing and stuff.

[@NullSpace3]

@@jameschristopher2540no lmao

[@thatonerandommf]

@@jocoolshow Naruto doesn't out stat Luffy at all. Sanji's brothers, who are literal background fodders compared to Luffy can use lightspeed attacks and move even faster than those attacks. Next take into account how much larger everything is in One Piece. Luffy has enough fire power in one punch to destroy the Leaf Village 50 times over

[@burnscooper892]

Lonk didn’t even bring up the Tori-Bot, who can manipulate the narrative since it’s the embodiment of Akira Toriyama.

[@jameschristopher2540]

Ok let’s not go there. Or we’d have to use Ten Ten and Teuchi to even the odds.

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

Goku has the Farmer’s Shotgun

[@patrickzepol1893]

​@@TheUncivilizedNationOH GOD NOT THE SHOTGUN

[@whetstonee]

arale

[@lmaobox4068]

That would be funny but this video does only use canon characters

[@scrantondangler8068]

Big 3: Yes! We turned his brain off! Goku: Auto Pilot activated. Big 3: TFs an auto pilot?

[@zahin1227]

naruto would know what it is with shibais dna and ichigo can just kill him with visionary wiith narutos information

[@drthmik]

@@zahin1227 And then Goku just wouldn't die Video is wrong Goku is immortal 3 ways, not just 2 (video forgets the dragon ball wish immortality, which would keep bringing him back even if he is completely destroyed) Furthermore, Goku could just stop time and then fire a god of destruction ki blast at each of them and annihilate them from existence before they could even blink

[@kiagusabiyan8410]

Goku with every abilities in DB would literally be Cosmic level threat within many verse. Just imagine his aura alone can passively erased someone out of existence at conceptual, information, and historic level.

[@Zihark_]

I mean he would have Zeno's powers so he can just decide that his opponents don't exist anymore and he wins

[@itsbrright]

@@Zihark_majority of stronger verses have erasure resistance, or straight up just can’t be erased so yea

[@sebastiandalsgaard8694]

he gets the abilities of the super dragon balls, he can just make anything appear and or disappear at the will, he also has xeno's power just erase them from exsistence

[@Lance-wn9dc]

​@@itsbrrightYea but the big 3 don't

[@HOLDENPOPE]

@@Lance-wn9dc They actually do. Yhwach said 'no' to Ichibei trying to erase him, and Aizen later did the same to Yhwach.

[@iammas.511]

this isn't close because if he 'has every power in their respective anime" then he has zeno's powers which means he'd just have to erase them lmao

[@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985]

Depends on if xeno can affect other realities or just the dragon worlds version of reality

[@Jernix-hugo]

​@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985 add more context.

[@starkilla102]

@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985seems like he can

[@Munchycrunch456]

@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985under this scenario it would work, also Zeno isn’t stated to have any restrictions on his power he’s not like alien x where he has 50 statements of random weaknesses.

[@gamercentral2417]

@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985zeno literally erased a timeline which holds one DB multiverse. In fact he’s shown he can erase past one timeline as infinite zamasu was traveling past the db multiverse. Zeno is easily hyper with no limitation otherwise the angels probably wouldn’t have rebelled

[@RestlessGamblrr]

you forgot that toriyama actually exists inside of dragon ball, so he can literally write the story

[@lonkstakes]

He goes from being stated strongest in the verse to saying he can’t beat Great Ape Kid Goku so I decided just not to include it😭

[@BleachIsBetterthanMilk]

@@lonkstakesthat shows how strong great ape is,even stronger than the author

[@Your7T7]

@@lonkstakes Yeah, outright saying "it's out of my hands" is crazy

[@Deim0]

"I still got PTSD Motherfuck the big three" shit would go so hard

[@Sebby-Webbu]

Fun fact: There's a character that 100% canon to dragon ball that would make every other power and ability goku has irrelevant and that's tori bot which would give Goku the power of the author

[@Deon.Z]

Not necessarily. The author only has power within and over his own story, since other stories have different authors. So although he could rewrite anything in his own story, he can't do so with other ones. Within his story, he can only be stronger than or limited to whatever is shown in it.

[@Sebby-Webbu]

@@Deon.Z true but then again he'd just be able to write himself to be infinitely stronger but this is a big if as Goku wouldn't be the type to go this

[@jordancobb7553]

​@@Deon.Zdepends on the authors legal team

[@AwakenedRookie]

The power of decease?

[@Limitle77]

​@@AwakenedRookie💀💀💀💀

[@abdullahsaa96]

Hey bro cool video , got a few random video requests: - Obito and Madara ( war arc versions) vs S class heroes ( excluding blast) - Awoken Hit vs SSR Goku black - Cell vs Cosmic Garou - DMS Kakashi vs Indra mode sasuke ( final valley) - could Dms Obito defeat Madara? - Gojo vs luffy - Gojo vs Each Akatsuki in a 1v1 - Sukuna vs Each Akatsuki in 1v1 - Dangai Ichigo vs Baryon mode Naruto - Gojo vs Each s class hero in a 1v1 - Darth Vader vs each mcu villain or each avenger in a 1v1. - Aragorn (LOTR) vs Achilles ( Troy) - Sauron vs Palpatine ( EU) -Doomslayer vs Dante or Kratos - what if Ichigo and Naruto switched fights? - what if Kratos and Goku switched fights?

[@farima4]

"a few" gave bro half a year worth of content 😭

[@DriftforeverSA]

Dangai ichigo would annihilate baryon mode

[@MVXXll]

Nice ideas

[@HassanAhmed-rf9xr]

@@DriftforeverSA no he wouldn’t

[@mlmf2012]

Theres also whis' time rewind ability. We know time manip in dragonball causes an alternate timeline, but whis specifically can rewind every single timeline all at once. Which 100% counters almighty. Cant choose a future when every timeline is being reversed

[@KingofCurthes]

Super Shenron basically has every single ability known to Dbz/DBS because of his wish granting abilities with no draw backs.

[@ThyBait]

wtf are you talking about that’s not what whis does

[@ThyBait]

Whis also doesn’t counter AllMighty since AllMighty negates any powers he can see/perceive.

[@GODEATER2]

@@ThyBait he cant negate an infinite amount of gokus abilities

[@ThyBait]

@@GODEATER2 “an infinite amount of goku abilities” if only you could read

[@lucassperli5024]

Besides in a hypothetical fight, if Goku has Majin Buu's regeneration and Zamasu's body cloning abilities, he'd still be a Saiyan meaning everytime they tried to damage his clones to near death, every single one of them would be instantly healed to full power, AND on top of that EVERY SINGLE ONE would get a huge Zenkai Boost

[@8bitutopia1954]

I don’t think the people who made that battle royale truly understand how broken Goku with EVERY ability in his verse would be. Cuz not only does he still massively outstat the Big 3, but he can now destroy them with hax. Immortality, Broly’s adaptability, Zeno’s more broken erasure, time skip and stop, Big Gete Star duplication, Moro and Babidi’s magic, Frieza’s potential, Goku Black’s space-time ripping, Super Shenron wish powers, Whis’s time rewinding, whatever deus ex machina powers Grand Priest has, Buu’s absorption, ability to breathe in space, Shin’s Kai Kai technique, Android’s infinite stamina, literally so much more. And that’s not even getting into non-canon abilities and characters yet!

[@TheFinalChapters]

Cooler isn't canon.

[@khalifeh22]

Turning people to carrots

[@markjack9772]

Ichigo with every ability in his verse is also extremely broken the only ability that really Goku has that's a big thing is instant existence Erasure buddy has worse hacks Ichigo except for that

[@SKai2609]

I dont think infinite stamina matters cause the nikyu nikyu no mi can just reflect tiredness wnd fatigue

[@Therealbeastgohan]

​@@markjack9772bro can just wish him away

[@deltalord6969]

Its unfortunate that every dragon ball power includes arale and toribots script manipulation. The big threes powers are still confined into their own fictional verse.

[@shirosatsuma4946]

toribot isn't a character in db verse

[@yourm8596]

​@@shirosatsuma4946toribot appears multiple times throughout the manga and a couple in the anime, he infact appears more than arale, though goku could just replicate author powers with all the powers he has.

[@shirosatsuma4946]

@@yourm8596 yeah no he never appears in the actual verse, just in manga covers or notes. He's not actual character in it

[@PhantomZone15]

​@@shirosatsuma4946yourm is right

[@Derivitave]

​@@shirosatsuma4946might be Mandela, but I'm sure he talks to Krillin

[@thehonoredone2361]

It definitely won't make a speck of difference however I could totally see Luffy being a little jokester and use the Horu Horu no Mi on everybody just to see their reaction.

[@patrickzepol1893]

Whats that devil fruit ability again i forgot 😅

[@TrollingYes]

​@@patrickzepol1893someone's skipped thriller bark 😢

[@Crescentwolf989]

Or the jacket jacket fruit

[@Ta_djou]

​@@TrollingYesCome on he is not the only one, i watched every OP episode 2 years ago and i cant remember an arc barely passed through because i didnt have time at that moment just tell us if you know

[@Red_04]

@@TrollingYes that's the Horo Horo no Mi not the Horu Horu no Mi

[@grimdaggz]

OMG. It was over the moment he said 'Androids'. Everything else is just overkill.

[@TheeSinnerman]

Honestly this would've been more fair if it was just Normal Goku but even then Goku just casually Fondles. It really is just Big Him.

[@lonkstakes]

I mention that at the start. If it was unequal stats he still just blitzes. But if it’s equal stats and normal Goku, he’s cooked

[@he_who_has_no_name]

​@@lonkstakestrue. But still, Goku cooks here.

[@TheeSinnerman]

@@lonkstakes If it's equal Stats normal Goku literally gets Packed by Either Luffy or Naruto or Ichigo I 1000% agree Stamina is not that great, he doesn't have that many Abilities or Haxes. The only thing would be his Battle IQ but even then Naruto has Battle IQ as well he's keeping up.

[@TheeSinnerman]

@@lonkstakes Great video by the way I'm already subbed but you need this 100k bruh it's a Necessity 🐐

[@zayway5649]

​@@TheeSinnermanhe's a much more skilled martial artist than all of em(that's the only rebuttal I have towards your comment) but when equalizing stats thats kind of hard to use in an argument against 3 other people then when you throw hax on there it's really not looking good for goku at all

[@sanchoporkwiches9871]

Fantastic video I think Wabisuke combo'd with Senbonzakura allows thousands of hits that double a person's weight each time. Add on Katen Kyōkotsu Shunsui's zanpakutou ability to force anyone to play by the rules that are set, and Ichigo basically becomes a reality warper as long as he can stay a step ahead. Goku still obviously blitzes but Considering the sheer number of unique abilities in Bleach i really think Ichigo would give him a fight he would never forget even without getting into Inoue's ability to reject anything in the bleach universe which might even give Ichigo an edge that could block Xeno's powers.

[@keithpierce5686]

Wait were using non canon Zeno Goku?

[@peng0382]

@@keithpierce5686 No just giving him Zeno’s abilities

[@Basch152]

the biggest problem would be goku having the ability to permanently stop time(guldo can stop time as long as he can hold his breath and has energy, this version of goku would both have no need to breathe AND have infinite energy

[@peng0382]

@@Basch152 yeah the only way big 3 can win is if they can use their abilities before Goku can take a breath, or just close his mouth, which I doubt they can as much as I want them to win

[@emmanuelakande3563]

@@peng0382nah ichigo by himself could win with almighty and book of the end auto making him unkillable with the visionary he can’t be touched even by hakai no ability he want to not work on him will work on him. He can nullify all powers one shot goku make him unable to move while removing his name make dimensions where he is god like people in dbz/dbs. He could create a story where goku dies. If goku even touches him once without killing him goku is screwed as he can’t even hurt him anymore so even his most powerful attack would be laughed off. Most of goku hax just get straight countered. Ichigo at that point is quite literally god he could amp luffy and naruto until there useful our just steal there powers and it too his own and let’s not even talk about soul king hax or pernida or hogyuko there is so much ichigo can do. Even spigot power is so useful he combines its with book of the end and says in the past i stabbed you 4 times in the same place and goku just drops deaf

[@Sword_Man_YT]

Don’t forget that since Tori-Bot has appeared in the Manga before, Goku would have his abilities too (and since he’s basically the author, Goku can just make the story whatever he wants).

[@FagnerLSantos]

Indeed and Toribot can be considered a character since Krillin directly mentioned him in the Buu Saga.

[@jameschristopher2540]

@@FagnerLSantos I thought it was a gag...

[@flowclown9179]

​​@@jameschristopher2540 toribot is a living character in Dr slurp, since Dr slurp island is somewhere in DB map it considered canon

[@jameschristopher2540]

@@flowclown9179 so what exactly can ToriBot do?

[@ka_killers2088]

@@jameschristopher2540it’s basically the creator of dragon ball

[@BiggerCheddar]

9:32 also something that could simplify the process is the ability of the time ring, which allows present goku to be unaffected by what happens in the past to him

[@ikeillue8385]

I'm glad that the equal power caveat was put in. It made it so that there was actually a discussion, instead of just "base Goku still wins before the others can even think." That said, Dragon Ball hacks are low key pretty intense. They are just generally outshined by shear power scaling, since DB characters overpower hacks with power.

[@Shinigami-gm9mf]

This is just on Ichigo's end, as I felt like he was being cut short compared to say Naruto. But if you want my honest thought (this is based on my current knowledge of One Piece): Goku beats all of them, but with Ichigo, he will have the toughest fight between all 3. I don't think Goku will have much trouble with Shinjutsu, since it hasn't manipulated reality to the same extent Infinite Zamasu exists in (plus its kind of low tier reality warping compared to what Ichigo may have, as all it did was change their memories but its currently not working fully). Ichigo has better offers through the following: Hogyoku can grant wishes and make them reality. Gremmy's imagination hax. Reio's reality warping powers by maintaining the concepts of life and death. Orihime's causality manipulation, Haschwalth's the Balance, and Uryu's Anti Thesis, all of which are the best options Ichigo has to get around Goku's deadlier abilities or Ultra Instinct (if possible). With the Almighty being better than all those powers (Ichigo would also have Reio's version). A few other things as well that weren't mentioned or are better versions than what was brought up. Mimihagi's stagnation (which can counter a few other options for Goku like prevent him from evolving). A better option from Loyd's copying ability (outside the fact Ichigo would have his growth rate, alongside Kenpachi, Aizen, Toshiro, and several more in one, and Ichigo has the best growth rate in verse), would be Pernida's ability to evolve by absorbing the information from its target. Fullbring's powers to control the soul within matter, but the more insane part is that it gets to where it manipulates the laws of physics. Much like Goku, Ichigo would also be immortal (can live for an eternity, regenerate from his soul being erased to nothing, exists between life and death, can ressurrect, has reliant immortality through an item, etc.) on top of infinite stamina through Aizen and Reio, and several options, as well as various forms of spatial and temporal hax (he can BFR someone to another point in time with the Kototsu, stop time with a Kido, etc) And lastly since its pretty late and I don't feel like listing every possible hax on Ichigo's end, its Askin, I think he was cut short, he can not only manipulate poisons, but he can also make himself immune to your attacks. This is all just a surface level look btw, I just feel like on Ichigo's end he was cut short, especially since by feats, I feel like Ichibei's hax is above Omnipotence but it was glossed over.

[@lonkstakes]

Ichibei’s power is incredibly strong and I didn’t go into much detail. But it is far more conditional than Omnipotence when used by Shibai, at least how we understand it.

[@Shinigami-gm9mf]

I mentioned other things outside of Ichibei's hax that would work better than Shibai's Omnipotence and they wouldn't be as conditional, or they suit better, like Haschwalth's the Balance.

[@Archetype_Earthy]

@@Shinigami-gm9mf that ability can create worlds not only mind hax It's reality warping not low tier imo

[@Shinigami-gm9mf]

@@Archetype_Earthy I said compared to what Ichigo would have in comparison.

[@real4756]

I agree, even if the outcome doesn’t change, ichigos powers were incredibly neglected and made it seem like a one sided curve stomp for goku, when that isn’t the case, ichigo very well puts up a fight i feel like more research could’ve been done for ichigo before making this video

[@malikmcfarlane6060]

Yet people have the nerve to say Dragon Ball doesn't have enough hax abilities and are weak😂

[@shido_rimru_]

Plus goku can use super shenron powers to have any wish he wants lol

[@darnellwoods8986]

@@shido_rimru_shenron can’t grant his own wishes lol

[@faceless5472]

​@@darnellwoods8986he can always force wishes onto the big three like "I want to fucking die," and boom, they're dead as fuck

[@shido_rimru_]

@@darnellwoods8986 it's not that serious lol

[@darnellwoods8986]

@@shido_rimru_ it’s not just correcting u by telling u shenron can’t grant his own wishes. ichigo can’t imagine goku out of existence lol

[@tadiwalinzi]

My guy you the man, you really brought all of goku and the dbz's omnipotent❤

[@muro_mayo4134]

Love the Lr Ultimate Gohan intro ost you got. Nice

[@lonkstakes]

The day I stop using Dokkan ost is the day I stop making videos

[@evanrideout3246]

@@lonkstakesdo you play? Or are you just a connoisseur of peak

[@io913]

​@@lonkstakesdude you forgot an important ability from bleach and that's gremmys shcrift. Idk how you forgot, even goin as far as putting a panel of him and he still went overlooked. This is the only ability that can beat Goku because the characters in this scenario will do anything to win, implying that Ichigo literally got rid of gremmys weakness. So Ichigo can imagine him dead, non existent, never existed, etc. Make himself intangible, invincible, maybe infinite stamina as well. I feel like you missed on something very big that could change the tides of this battle. As well as the soul kings powers, aizen kyoka suigetsu and hogyoku, uryus damage transfer, jugrams shrift, and if LN counts, Ichigo clears.

[@io913]

​@@lonkstakesand for time stop, the moment Goku lays eyes on Ichigo, Goku is in his world. He could be defeating Ichigo in his world, in reality Ichigo has imagined Goku non existent. True existence erasure can be tanked by hogyoku, as NO MATTER WHAT, as long as it your will hogyoku will keep you alive. (Aizen literally surviving mugetsu.)

[@TheEternalFlame57]

To add even more to this. That means Goku gets Gas’s wish of being the strongest in the universe which means no matter what he is stronger then them on top of the potential

[@jameschristopher2540]

I mean he’s literally shenron. He even gets Zalama’s power of creation. Zeno’s ultimate power of destruction. Both trump the lvls of supreme Kai and destroyers. He also gets ui of say grand priest which again trumps Whis and others like him.

[@jameschristopher2540]

He also gets the strongest demons powers. And blah blah

[@ThyBait]

That’s not what that means🤦🏿‍♂️omg you are a prime example that DBZ fans can’t read

[@TheEternalFlame57]

@@ThyBait Why is Gas’s wish of growth not counted as an ability?

[@ThyBait]

@@TheEternalFlame57 because it isn’t hax🤦🏿‍♂️that’s also not how it works. Has got surpassed by another person so no it isn’t

[@cptwablybtw11]

0:02 IS THAT LR AGL ULTIMATE GOHAN’S INTRO OST!?!?? (W vid btw, I’m just in love with Gohan’s OST)

[@lonkstakes]

Just wait for when the active skill ost starts :)

[@MurphyxW]

If you read the manga, you would know that the highest tier gods in dragon ball isnt just zeno, zeno (omnipotent) is a separated being from zalama (omnipresent/everywhere,everything) and zuno (omniscience/knows everything) So in other words, zalama is in fact, cannon so goku in this scenario would be omniscience, omnipresent and omnipotent, also zalama is better than fused zamasu because zamasu fused with the whole timeline only scale to nigh-omnipresent

[@v.thirteen5504]

You mentioned Omnipotence but you didn’t mention Eida’s PASSIVE ability of anyone who looks at them that isn’t a family member or Otsutsuki, regardless of gender, falls in love and cannot harm them or act against them in a threatening way. Also Daemon’s reflection ability which would reflect everything. And on top of all that (even though this wouldn’t be needed now), Momoshiki has shown some form of time stop, and both him and Boruto have moved during it. Overall this was a really cool video and well done, Goku with Buu’s body is hilarious to think about You said you might do a follow up if you miss things (I doubt you will since you seem set on this) I think you should. Plus it’s a whole other video for you, win win

[@Crittz_]

Goku still slams tbh

[@ComradeYosh.]

Goku just starts smooching him mid fight 💀

[@Noobs385]

@@Crittz_honestly his UI can probably counter the reflection really easily since it reflects intent or thoughts of attacking which he just doesn’t use with UI if it makes sense 😂

[@v.thirteen5504]

@@Crittz_ don’t see how but everyone got their opinion

[@v.thirteen5504]

@@Noobs385 hes still attacking, it reflects attacks. But I guess that’s debatable, still, it wouldn’t even come to that since his passive ability to charm anyone would take effect before hands were thrown

[@e-toli636]

that ultra golden frieza render genuinely startled me. the shaft follows me everywhere

[@Gergu-t4q]

His zenkies bout to be crazy

[@sicko1up]

you forgot 3 things ichigo would have that would definitely pose a problem, the hogyuko, antithesis, and visionary

[@Cio_d-borba]

Goku also gets other hax abilities like magic, the carrot touch from early db, devilmite beam, near omnipotence, stone spit, timestop (guldo & hit), time reversal (whis) and time skip, copying techniques by seeing them with the third eye (tienshinhan), forced spirit fission, creation (kaio shin's), destruction (GoD's),

[@lonkstakes]

There were so many other things I didn’t have time to talk about them all😭

[@Cio_d-borba]

@@lonkstakes yea, i wrote the comment before finishing the video, you mentioned it in the end😅 great video by the way

[@dsm2417]

and zunos omnicience plus furtune babas future visions would make goku know everything them three can and will do with all the info about the abilities

[@isaacbell5156]

And 73 abilities.

[@jameschristopher2540]

@@Cio_d-borbaok let’s not go there. Naruto, Luffy and Ichigo also get another 100 more op abilities. I mean what about the existence or universal erasing tso? Or the time stopping from Momo? Or the shrinking any non living thing from ishi? That’s just Naruto. Ichigo gets every hado, every hollow ability, and the even more broken Quincy ones. I mean Grammy can wish anything. What about... I give up. You get the point.!

[@BlazeGamer__794]

0:56 on this time i am commenting my bet Goku WINS WITH ALL HIS VERSE ABLITY SLAMS NO DIFF

[@Julie-jl2qm]

My bet is the big three and ichigo carry’s cuz he literally due to Ywhach ability can just come back back stronger and plus Aizen is immortal and it’s also stated Aizen s chair solos goku

[@namename2040]

Hakai speed blitz, or merging with all reality, time skipping, strength so immense it defies time, space, and everything else , complete existence erasure Goku got it

[@SSJRyu1]

Agreed on the conclusions. Without stats equal even standard Goku blitz and one shots, and even with stats equal comp DB likely beats comp big 3. People underestimate the hax of DB. The only one I see the big 3 winning is standard Goku with stats equal vs big 3 due to numbers and more hax between them, but at that point if you neutered Goku's speed and power your taking away fundamental aspects of his fighting abilities since he is primarily a physical fighter who focuses on increasing his physical abilities. It would be like saying no jutsu for Naruto, no Bankais for Ichigo or no devil fruit for Luffy.

[@Hardracist]

Even without equalized stats ichigo with every ability in the series cannot be one shot as he has various layers of immortality 🤦 the people over at the power scaling sub were actually knowledgeable on this match up unlike this idiotic video

[@thatboi134]

While I agree that Goku has a lot more win cons than the big 3, your comparison doesn't really work. Since at least with the video, we gave every single advantage to Goku, but not the big 3. We stated racial abilities from all of these races for Goku to give Goku infinite stamina and immortality, but we didn't do the same for the big 3, such as with the Hogyoku for Bleach making it's user literally immortal and constantly evolving. Also with stats unequal we just say Goku wins because he's physically stronger, and because he's physically stronger, he also resists every single hax from all of the other verses, and also because he's physically stronger, all of the dbz hax automatically work as well with the other verses being unable to resist. See where I'm going? This video also works under the impression where the stats are equal, but still gives Goku hax where the stats that would be given if stats were unequal, like resistance to hax do to him being stronger, but he shouldn't be because the stats are equal.

[@matiasmoreno9683]

​@@thatboi134 Dude arale toon force it's all that Goku needs

[@DiafolMedrus]

​@@thatboi134 The problem with your theory is... their stats aren't equal. Set them all to 1. Kaioken means Goku is now a 2. x20 means he's now a 20. Super Saiyan, he'd be a 50. SSJ2 he's now 100. No amount of 'transformation' changes any of those lot to the same degree as Goku's transformations do. Theoretically (not sure the exact multipliers because Toriyama decided to ignore them after a point, but the general consensus around is) SSJ4 is a x3000-x4000 increase. SSJG then includes God Ki, which is said to be on a different level altogether (none of the mortals could even sense it, and SSJ2 Vegeta couldn't do much of anything against Beerus, even when they said his 2 went beyond Goku's 3, but SSJG kept pace with (albeit a barely actually trying) Beerus. We can assume SSJG knocks out any power scaling he has before this point, period. Blue then is even stronger than that, described by Goku as the 'Super Saiyan version of SSJG', meaning we can assume he's likely around 50x stronger than SSJG, which is already SO much stronger than SSJ3 they're not even comparable. If he gets Vegeta's Blue Evolved, he's even STRONGER, and MUI on the scale of Angels? None of the big 3 can touch him. The issue will come from verse. Which rules are we using? Naruto rules, they might still have something... maybe... if they can use the power of 'bitchslapping stronger foes for damage' enough to pull a win. If, however, it's DB rules... NONE of them have a scaled power beyond those transformations. Not the Wandenreich, not the Soul King, none of them. A), before any of them can move, Goku's speed and IT powered by MUI would put him in a position to clap them all. B) the only one that might stand a ghost of a chance is Rukia Bankai Ichigo. We don't fully know how Absolute 0 would function in this situation, but if he turns the area around him to Absolute 0, it is possible any energy blast Goku sends out gets sapped by the properties of Abolsute 0. If that is not how it works, and the introduction of energy adds enough energy to disrupt the properties of no particles and atoms even vibrating anymore, it is more likely that Goku would undo and shatter the Bankai, making it useless as well. That's not to mention her Bankai is dangerous for herself, as well, and we never get any canon sources that say she can sustain it indefinitely. Goku can Ki blast from a massive distance, so he doesn't have to get close, and can run out the clock. When Ichigo lets it go, he closes the distance and kills. It all boils down to universe rules, but really, MUI Goku or UE Goku, powered by Blue or other such transformations, or simply going full GoD and Hakai aura, he's likely not getting touched by anyone, or every time they do something to him, they power him (UE), his power scaling is just on a different level.

[@thatboi134]

@@DiafolMedrus Again, I agree that Goku would probably win since DBZ has a lot of win cons, but winning off stats is just lame. What's the point of making a video where you make the stats equal, but then you say Goku just wins because he has higher stats. Would have been an interesting video/topic since you could probably bring up and explore some of the more obscure abilities that might surprisingly be a win con with Goku/one of the big 3 Mcs as its user, but instead we're just gonna say Goku speed blitz's and win like that wasn't already obvious.

[@skeveyishere758]

10:53 don’t forget sense he got everyone that means literally anyone like super Sheron therefore he’d be fine

[@blazingdragon918]

I'm surprised gremmys power of imagination wasn't mentioned

[@nefdjc9492]

Not even the Hōgyoku was mentioned either

[@UltraRaptor123]

It wouldn’t change anything, Gremmy still lost with it. It’s not invincible.

[@SmallUnc]

Ichigo would end up killing himself

[@sean-jq7hs]

@@UltraRaptor123Gremmy lost because of he’s a child and wasn’t smart, he amped kenpachi in that fight by believing kenpachi to be an unstoppable monster

[@UltraRaptor123]

@@sean-jq7hs Ichigo would do the same to Goku.

[@Dio____Brando]

aizens kyoka suigetsu wouldnt be bothered by gokus ultra instinct, the aizens ability affects every senses you have, even sensing spiritual pressure isnt safe from its influence and the hypnosis it puts into is so strong that it feels real to the beholder if anything gokus ultra instinct would be acting like its being forced into a shadow boxing state and its not like it can react to something the user cannot see its a automatic reaction ability that would still need the user to know he is being targeted to apply itself in battle its like if you are saying that if a invisible being was to cat his throat it would react without goku knowing he was in danger like if it was a spider sense

[@SaviHow]

That IS exactly how UI works though, he no longer relies on any sense and his body just acts on his own. It's very BS heavy, but his body just somehow knows exactly what is going on. And that's just Goku's UI, which is pretty bad. Angels are in a constant perfected state of it. You also are forgetting the fact that this Goku is omni-present thanks to Zamasu, Omniscient thanks to Great Zuno & others, and damn near Omnipotent thanks to Super Shenron and the Omni King.

[@Dio____Brando]

@@SaviHow ultra instinc relies on your senses, it just allow you to act without thinking it to not needlessly waste energy on uneeded actions Ultra Instinct is an ultimate technique that separates the consciousness from the body, allowing it to move and fight independent of a martial artist's thoughts and emotions. Even if UI shouldnt be immune to aizen because at the end of the day the issue will relie on all his senses to fight so it wouldnt be able to tell apart whats real or not because what your body and mind will perceive will be what aizen decides to me this situation is no different than Magneto vs Wolverine, one controls metal the other is made from it, goku will react perfectly to dodge and counter anything that aizen will create with his hipnosis that affects all the senses of the human body and even if UI could ignore what goku sees,Hear, and just act from what his body feels aizen controls his touch too hell he could even make goku dodge an attack that was never there and attack him for real by making him feel that theres nothing coming for the kill in another direction

[@TheCabalNoob]

So basically Goku just became Sun Wukong. Also I just realized you used Dokkan music in the background. I didn't notice at first because I hear it all the time.

[@Mush.ashi12]

Very good video but you forgot Shidai abilities in Naruto 😅😅

[@Docteur_Hex]

He has Zeno's erasure, is already faster than time infinte ultra instince and ultra ego *and just the super dragon balls are enough*

[@jameschristopher2540]

Yh but normal Goku would lose neg diff

[@Docteur_Hex]

@@jameschristopher2540 nah, he'd blow up the universe

[@LovenskyLeonne]

Nah goku would win

[@jameschristopher2540]

@@Docteur_Hex and Ichigo alone is universal at base. With the hax he’d erase him.

[@Docteur_Hex]

@@jameschristopher2540 explain how

[@swayxzz]

does he know ichigo with all schrifts!?!?

[@Takatacion]

Some did this with the hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby meme template but they changed it to Dr. Manhattan vs crying baby x 3

[@mrgungus]

Except ichigo can remove all of goku’s abilities, cant be touched by goku, can instakill goku, even if he’s somehow touched or located he cannot die, he can instantly heal from nothingness, and he has borderline omnipotence ☠️

[@tornadoknight3996]

With the angels natural ui and Zeno's finger snap to erase anything this isn't even a discussion

[@riatrapgaming6415]

Simple, Goku Solos.

[@dominikjoestar9842]

Goku is just BIG STRONK

[@SB_rising]

Goku solo

[@jameschristopher2540]

A close match tho

[@_Deleto_]

​@@jameschristopher2540no lmao 💀

[@jameschristopher2540]

@@_Deleto_ how? Every verse has existence erasing hax. Idk about one piece cos I didn’t watch it. But maybe his gag abilities with equal stats give Goku a hard time.

[@IzBirch]

You could give a argument for luffy being light speed with the light light fruit if you had the speeds low enough, But then Goku's counter is dyspos light speed mode.

[@lonkstakes]

It was equal stats so speed doesn’t matter

[@shirosatsuma4946]

Please don't tell me you think dyspo is only light speed when he transforms

[@yourm8596]

You know the light speed mode is a mistranslation, it correctly translates to something along the lines of super speed mode.

[@TriedYan]

I’m not gonna lie to you big homie dragon ball has an argument for light speed as early as well… dragon ball

[@issacclavelo6395]

Even kid goku faster then light

[@sinicule]

Why you didn’t mention gremmy’s ability from bleach?

[@C1ph3r420]

He did when he mentioned the duplication ability for Ichigo (which I know ain't his ability but it still wouldn't matter due to Goku's had just being better, nothing he could imagine could kill him)

[@redfoxnutella3926]

This was amazing soo interesting

[@fengshuimaster7880]

Another thing that makes goku immune to time manipulation stuff is that he probably has the time ring which makes him immune to any alterations in time, even if it was erasing a version of himself from all timelines. But even if we dont give him that, arale can just run fast enough to go forward or backwards in time so they aint escapin him xd

[@kingenderraptor]

Dbz also has one funny thing where if you're just outright stronger than someone by a significant amount, their hax just straight up don't work on you.

[@Jpx0999]

Yep,ki straigth up ignore hax's if youre powerfull enough to do soo There are soo many examples its jot even funny,but the best one is vegito still fighting even after beijg turned into candy,mf has no brain or heart or even flesh but it is still kicking ass

[@fizbutreal]

equal stats so that doesnt come into play

[@Jpx0999]

@@fizbutreal brolys,Gohan,Cell and Freeza potential do come into play,which means Goku Will get almost all of his Power back in pratically a instant

[@jameschristopher2540]

Yh but that’s DBZ Naruto’s hax work on anyone significant stronger. Sakura punches Kaguya, Boruto blitzed Momoshiki, Borushiki stabs Sasuke, Naruto tricks Zabuza etc.

[@jameschristopher2540]

@@Jpx0999 we get that but the hax thing will work.

[@kemogames2084]

Actually, in this case it would be a stalemate because of combination of Hogyoku, Book Of The End and The Almighty, as Ichigo would be immune to existence erasure as Aizen wasn't able to be erased, and if somehow Ichigo was he would come back with Almighty, and Hogyoku would remove any possible weakness with infinite adaptability. No matter what, this Ichigo cannot be defeated by anything in these 4 anime. You'd need something like Milkman Man Superman to defeat him.

[@eternitynaskrkore3095]

You forgot something, if Goku were to have EACH ability in the db-dbs verse then he could simply just use Ginyu's ability to swap bodies with Ichigo, not saying he would do it but if it did come down to it he could. But all I'm gonna say is that, depending on who's verse the fight is being held on determines the winner.

[@Inkrack]

Normal Superman is enough ngl.

[@Teekayhuey_TK]

Rewind time (Whis ability) and then zanos erasure since it worked on a conceptual level of destruction. Remember that Zamasu was destroyed by trunks to the level that every atom had been destroyed too. His concept of justice was what continued on.

[@frogoyes7611]

@@eternitynaskrkore3095 Ichigo has reversal abilities and control over the entire time line, he would never allow for that to happen and it would never be able to land on him.

[@frogoyes7611]

@@Teekayhuey_TK Goku tries to rewind time then realises that he is going forward in time because Ichigo can see all possible complete time lines and knows to reverse his abilities before he gets a chance to use it. Also he sees that goku is going to try to eraze him, so he simply uses Ukitates abilities to send it back at 10x power, or he could idk reverse the affects of the erasure, or reverse who the attack is targeting making it hit goku, stillness can make it so where goku can't go through any transformation. It's way more rediculous than you would think.

[@pokezeldamaster39]

I think some things that would have helped Bleach: 1. The Hogyoku would give Ichigo massive haxs. 2. Gremmys imagination ability. 3. Aizen's mind control could make Goku wish himself out of existence or make him not see Ichigo and the others as enemies. Goku can't UI a wish.

[@HK21336]

Do next (Gt Goku or Whis Vs Aizen or Yhwach) please

[@lonkstakes]

You want Aizen to get bullied that badly?

[@HK21336]

@@lonkstakes yep and Yhwach , the bleach community have gotten out of control thinking bleach is on DBS/GT level smh

[@shirosatsuma4946]

@@HK21336 you don't need whis for that

[@issacclavelo6395]

​@@shirosatsuma4946fr

[@mishaamyousuf1834]

​@@HK21336bleach got overrated when it turned in powerscaling

[@razzo086]

This is a cool discussion

[@gogetomasterultrainstinct5768]

Luffy w every power in his vers is here just to get one shot by pan again

[@lonkstakes]

LMAOO

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

Anybody that can blow up a planet automatically solo's the entire verse.

[@speedyweasel681]

@@CerealExperimentsMizuki the one piece world is many many times larger than a planet level feat

[@joyboy3461]

@@speedyweasel681doesn’t really matter imo

[@speedyweasel681]

@@joyboy3461 the strongest characters can tank a single planet level attack, but pretty much doesn't matter

[@have_a_good_day420]

This is less about the individuals' abilities vs one another and more about the entire shows' universes vs one another.

[@amineouachao4625]

Itchigo future sight can perfectly predict every move of goku so he is definitely touching him " same for itchigo vs juha where he layed traps for him in the final battle " . And when itchigo touches him its game over , no name , and he will be conquered by fear and many other abilities. Also the miracle is a thing, and imagining anything into reality. I think itchigo is the most broken under these conditions

[@Dpsdark]

How do you predict and counter getting completely how do you hit someone with ultra instinct how do you even do anything against someine who can stop skip forward ad go backward in time exist in multiple timeliness absorb others which woukd be a counter to miracle and ca continousy get stronger broly freeza and ayone elses potential combine would 10x your stats every minute of a fight

[@paco2869]

Just 1 word: wishes

[@HOLDENPOPE]

@@paco2869 Does Shenron have any feats of wishing away abilities that negate his wishes?

[@paco2869]

@@HOLDENPOPE I dont think super shenron typa wishes can get negated

[@ThyBait]

@@Dpsdarkgoku has been hit multiple times with ui. Stop acting slow.

[@Goji-C]

Peak video as always lonk

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

It sucks that a good KZbinr is so unknown on here, you should always get top comment and most likes.

[@rogeman311]

Goku just becomes Arale and toon-forces everybody lol

[@Quincy-m3p]

Zamasu’s immortal + Guldo time stop = gg

[@Dio____Brando]

@@Quincy-m3p idk why but this youtuber decided to give the hougyoku to ichigo gg

[@rudraroopbhattacharjee6191]

I mean if you include Eida's ability, you also need to include Daemon's which is basically that if you even think about hurting him the same scale of attack reverses back to you. So if you think of erasing him from existence, you would get erased instead.

[@WatermelonCatX]

But that cant happened if time stopped

[@Skkia]

I forgot the character name But one of the character in dragon ball has a body that transports the damage into different dimension So Goku would take no damage

[@Kha1r_0]

Dawg didn’t even mention the TSO, Creation of all things jutsu, soul manipulation from the rinnegan, energy absorption from the rinnegan, immortality from hidan, immortality from reanimation, immortality from orochimaru, intangibility from kamui(which activates unconsciously btw), possible time control from madara’s MS, infinite chakra from reanimation meaning infinite clones all with these previously mentioned abilities, and I could go on.

[@Skkia]

@@Kha1r_0 Not impressive Infinity stamina And Infinite energy of android 18 17 Utilisation of 100% till all the energy drains Gamma 1 and 2 Meaning Goku would be able to use his 100% power for eternity without any draw backs Zamasu immortality Better than any immortality in Naruto Clone creation(equally strong as the user) Basically infinite Matter creation Angel immortality Stated that angel can only die if they Break angel code Author authority Grand priest He made that code So he can remove it That's another immortality their Space time manipulation Dimension manipulation Space time creation Power nullification Law manipulation Soul manipulation Resurrection Kamui doesn't make you intangible it just transports you body to different dimension Hit not only can make himself intangible he can also teleport himself to his pocket dimensions more intangible options Which are better than kamui

[@Kha1r_0]

@@Skkia Naruto has genuinely EVERY single ability you just mentioned. I initially thought you cooked, but you just repeated what I said about Naruto but for Goku. Reanimations can’t die unless erased from existence as zamasu was Hit’s timeskip intangibility works almost EXACTLY the same as kamui (as they are both simply slipping into pocket dimensions) and by definition both qualify as intangibility. Naruto has matter creation from ‘the creation of all things technique’ which allows you to bring anything you imagine into existence. Soul manipulation from the rinnegan Power nullification from the rinnegan, yata mirror, and daemon. time manipulation from Madara’s MS, izanagi, and omnipotence. Resurrection from the rinnegan. Space time manipulation from creation of all things, and space time creation from creation of all things/kaguya. Infinite stamina and chakra, with infinite clones who also have infinite stamina and chakra. Dimension manipulation once again from kaguya, izanagi, creation of all things, and omnipotence. Karma so that even if goku does kill him, he’ll just come back after taking over goku’s body. Dust release,TSO, arguably izanagi C.O.A.T., and omnipotence for existence erasure.

[@clashdevil2925]

Remember that sternritter who can think something and that becomes the reality.... Yea... Bleach has that too

[@thesnail4671]

And the hogyuko

[@JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2]

do you think Devilmite Beam will work on the big 3? btw you Kind of touched on it already however its important to mention that Infinite Stamina mean Infinite UI and probably infinite time stop via holding his breath.

[@lonkstakes]

It would likely be indefinite given how he would have the abilities of multiple characters who don’t need to breath ever (Android 16)

[@fmrc93]

Not to mention he’d have the mastery of UI of Grand Priest who is still Top 3 in the verse.

[@returntoraven]

He doesn’t need to hold his breathe because Androids don’t need to breathe

[@filipe_paixao]

Luffy and Naruto aside: Ichigo also has acess to time stop (kido) and wish granting/reality manipulation (Hogyouku/Visionary/ many others). The Main advantage I can see for Ichigo to possibly win, would be Mimihagi's stagnation. Since both Ichigo and Goku would be able to erase basically all existence in all dimensions and timelines, Ichigo having the abilities of the characters that existed before those concepts existed (5 Ancestors of the 5 Great Noble Families / Ichibei / Soul King) he would be able to not only exist there, but also Stagnate Goku. And since he has All Mighty combined with Book of the End, he can make Ichibei's bankai be a fixed future/past 💀

[@Dio____Brando]

@@filipe_paixao ichigo can also use almighty to steal gokus powers since any ability yhwach knows cannot harm im and obyley him thats basically why quincies could steal bankais and they could take resurrections but hollow powers are poisonous for them so they never tried

[@filipe_paixao]

@@Dio____Brando and since book of the End can alter the "past" of anything it affects, and All Mighty alters all possible futures/ timelines. Book of the End will be able to affect all timelines... creating a new alternative timeline for each timeline where Tsukishima presence was already in the past. So Ichigo would in theory become a composite of all possible Ichigo's that were present in the life of All Possible Gokus 💀 (both as his training partner, rival, and teacher)

[@Wsg_man]

Goku still solos.

[@Dio____Brando]

@@Wsg_man keep telling yourself that

[@Dio____Brando]

@@filipe_paixao lets not forget tsukishima's book of the end can litterally let know know everythin the target you cut knows like how after cutting byakuya he made it so that he was the one who trained byakuya so he knew every moves and fighting style he knew

[@jerrylee5674]

Um you forgot about the visionary,the balance,the miracles,the creation of all things reflection,the hyokiyoku, and senjimarus bankai I think those would be pretty useful in this battle also the capulsery, but idk how goku would deal with all mighty,visionary,hyokiyoku

[@megav1022]

he didnt mention them because it ruins his agenda that goku wins

[@Ilym21]

They wouldn’t stop him from being erased 🤷

[@megav1022]

@@Ilym21 so the existance erasure resistance somehow isn't going to stop the existence erasure? Make it make sense dawg

[@minatonamikaze4755]

@@megav1022hogyoku is useless goku seals ichigo in the z sword

[@heyspitshineme1927]

​@megav1022 Zeno erased an immortal and a entire timeline. Beerus erased a gag ghost. Goku solos. Unless you think bleach can beat the grand priest

[@yungtizzy]

you forgot the arguably most powerful skill of ichigo which he would get from the imagination sternritter. if used correctly he can just imagine goku to never have existed and Naruto's extremely powerful ability to turn into a naked girl

[@Freedmoon44]

In which case it would depand on who's faster to erase the other because Zeno is there. I dont think Ichigo reaches Goku's speed?

[@Stopscrolling.P]

​@@Freedmoon44not to mention how Goku can permentaly stop time with that wierdo called guldo or something (since he dosent need to breathe

[@emmanuelakande3563]

@@Stopscrolling.Pyeah ichigo ain’t caring for that ichigo has complete control of time and fate with the book of the end and the almighty and if he wanted to could just not be able to be touched with lile shrifct and just one shot him and lile bullets are instant

[@silverassassinyt9181]

sexy jutsu wont work on goku

[@yungtizzy]

@@silverassassinyt9181 no shit that was the only part that was sarcasm

[@ssj_junior]

Goku with regeneration alone would be insane

[@Infinite8blue]

My knowledge on other series hax abilities isn't has vast even though i read all the manga weekly but i still think you are comparing hax abilities bleach should take this easy if you are giving them every ability. Ichi probably only needs 15 from his own verse. Anthesis: It allows him to choose two points, take the events that have occurred between them, and reverse them entirely Almighty: The Almighty grants the power to peer into and potentially alter the future depending on the user wielding it Balance: can take misfortune within his sphere of influence and transfer it to those who are fortunate. Manipulate probabilities. Book of end: Book of the End is capable of two types of cut: one which can injure or kill an opponent and one which can insert Tsukishima into the target's past. X-axis: Spatial Manipulation & Durability Negation (Lille can uniformly penetrate anything in-between his gun and target without prejudice. There are no bullets to this gun, and it is impossible to dodge the gun) Enhanced Intangibility (The true ability of The X-Axis is to become intangible

[@Diezel_Mayweather]

How much more cracked would this Goku be with the Intelligence of Bulma/Zuno ? It might be a worse stomp.

[@fmrc93]

Not just Bulma, it’d include Gero & Hedo as well

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

That's not an ability but more so personal character stat's.

[@frogoyes7611]

Unpopular Opinion: I don't think that Goku would actually win...

[@Bestanimefightscene]

Counter to Deamon hax? Passively reflect any attack or killing intent is mad OP

[@kingslayer1550]

Ultra instinct? I mean like you're literally fighting without thinking. There is no intent.

[@yashghanekar1424]

@@kingslayer1550 ye but in ultra insctint goku literally doges most of the time, out manuvering his opponent, when he does attack he has intent which is when he loses ui

[@ThyBait]

@@kingslayer1550You attack instinctively so you’d attack him still which gets reflected into you🤦🏿‍♂️

[@BESTMOAD]

​@@ThyBaittune force tori bot power super shenron power by zalama goku just wishes that the demon hack does nothing or doesn't exist with arales tune force the demon hack only reflects to the user using it lol the hacks in DragonBall will just overide

[@ThyBait]

@@BESTMOAD tf are you talking about. He has no power over other universes he quite literally can’t do that. Nice try tho

[@jaypay777]

So can this GOKU BEAT ALL VERSIONS OF SUPERMAN?!?! I am actually curious, please do reply

[@IanLemus-pb2bt]

He can erase anyone from existence because of zenos power

[@HOLDENPOPE]

@@IanLemus-pb2bt That is a no-limits fallacy. Galactus has a thingy called the Ultimate Nullifer that can do the same thing, yet Galactus himself found a way to not die to it if it were turned against him. Unless Zeno has a feat of erasing Azathoth, he cannot solo fiction.

[@MVXXll]

​@@HOLDENPOPEnobody said he beats all of fiction

[@sagekoko69420]

It's literally just the almighty vs xeno's "Thanos snap" lol.

[@MakaiAlliman_XXX]

Can you do what if monster verse king ghidorah was in Dragonball z how far can he survive?

[@lonkstakes]

He probably stops at like 23rd Budokai

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

​@@lonkstakes wait Dragon Ball??

[@KingofCurthes]

Is Ghidorah even continent level💀

[@Kajiu.995]

Baby trunks beats him

[@dbangzflask8661]

Seems he didn’t mention the Miracle, or the visionary which are some of he most broken things also I don’t see how kyoka suigetsu wouldn’t affect goku when it could affect someone who could see all possible outcome an was in all sense of the word a god not to mention technically this version would be much stronger since that’s what the hogyoku would do he also didn’t mention the MAIN thing which made Aizen feared (ui is based off instinct but still uses information as the basis of its auto reactions so logically kyoka could manipulate said information)

[@jaja_yo_no_se]

@@dbangzflask8661 one Goku could use super shenron's unlimited wishing ability or Arale's toon Force to negate any and everything the miracle of the visionary could do, next with the angels mastery of ultra instinct he wouldn't need any of his senses to fight as it is always on that and the combined omnipresence he has he would know where anyone is at all time

[@mearcan7521]

Zeno.. literally just that bro he could use zenos abilities. its as simple as that.

[@jaja_yo_no_se]

@@mearcan7521 true

[@juandixon6628]

​@@mearcan7521All Of them are Omnipotent and Omniscient, this battle would not work at all

[@4nero_Dem0n1c]

​@@jaja_yo_no_se Yourself is a shrift that copies the enemies appearance and all abilities perfectly and the 2nd twin version copies all memories and experience add almighty + immortalities + revive/adapt stronger + enemy power stealing/power deleting and a stat equalize bankai + antithesis and balance that just reverse/counter everything and gives ichigo all advantage And honestly Ichigo just need to last a minute and he becomes immune to everything Goku can do

[@alexanderliew3415]

Goku has the abilities of Zeno and Super Shenron. He can simply erase them. This is a harder stomp than their regular versions. Zeno and Super Shenron is just too much of a hax.

[@frogoyes7611]

Goku loses equal stats 10/10, ichigo has complete control over the timeline, in fact of all possible timelines that could ever exist, can make it so where goku can't transform with stillness, become goku with all of his power and abilities stacked with his own. He could reverse any attack, damage, or idea that goku has. Or if goku is somehow winning he could reverse the situation to Ichigo winning, he could get ink on goku and make him lose his name, and then title him as an ant and bam goku lost all of his power. He can cause future events to happen in the present meaning time stop isn't going to be possible for goku, as the Almighty is a passive ability. Oh boy goku can erase Ichigo? Too bad Ichigo can make more of himself, come back with his name being spoken, see all possible attacks, have things like the miracle, and just so much more that counters it. Whattt Goku has toon force, too bad Ichigo removes the name of toon force or just simply imagines that he himself had toon force. Wait goku can reverse time, too bad that Ichigo has already seen everything goku can possibly do, and can stop everything he can possibly do with his abilities. Wait but MUI, Ichigo with stillness wouldn't allow for goku to go into MUI or any form Wait but goku is immortal! So is Ichigo, but goku wouldn't be expecting for him being immortal to really have bless him and have been lucky for him, meaning he would instantly get murdered by judgement scales. If that doesn't work then Ichigo can wipe off his name get rid of his abilities like mentioned before, if even that doesn't work then Ichigo can reverse goku from being immortal to being mortal. If that somehow doesn't work, then Ichigo can just imagine that goku was beatable. Once more if that doesn't work then Ichigo could find a way to seal him with all of insanely powerful kido there is in the series. Goku is really strong, but bleach was heavily underrepresented in this fight.

[@alexanderliew3415]

@@frogoyes7611 I'm not gonna read all of that. You need help, seriously. 😂

[@frogoyes7611]

@@alexanderliew3415 it's copy and paste no worries lol

[@jessem98711]

Excuse me who's multi form technique?! Just kidding great video