Future of College | Retro Report

Increasing student loan debt and online learning look poised to disrupt college as we know it. But as automation changes the workplace, the future might bring the need for lifelong learning-meaning more college, not less. "What Happens Next" is a collaboration with Quartz examining the future of society. Lesson plan for educators: retroreport.org/video/future-...
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[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

If online becomes standard what will we do about socialization.

[@miro.georgiev97]

We'll all be like commuter students like me-since there will be very few opportunities to actually make any new friends (because there's reduced incentive due to all of us being too "engaged" with our studies), face-to-face socialization with fellow students will almost certainly decrease. After all, why bother making "lifelong" friendships with other students if you're all just in a class so you can get out with a good enough grade to grant you a diploma?

[@RETROREPORT]

Interesting question. We'd love to hear everyone's opinion on this. Also, please weigh in on the poll on our community tab about where you see the future of college heading.

[@FINEDENTIST]

The most memorable experiences I have of University involve interaction with other students solving problems together and moving ahead, unbelievably satisfying.

[@Noblesse505]

I go to a school where we constantly study like robots and get 7 hours of homework EVERY single day. I've forgotten what the outside world looks like it's literally homework bus school(work) homework and extra homework on the weekends since it's a private school. This would be much better rather than wasting time going to school and coming back you just study at home and then you're free to do whatever you want and can go meet your friends and do extracurricular activities that do not exist at my school it's just studying and sitting all day in front of books. Some days I don't even get to sleep. Crying while doing homework all night 😩😫😢😭

[@FINEDENTIST]

Sehbaj Dhaliwal I too was in a similar situation, till I moved into a University Residence,must choose wisely as some are Party Residences,we had a curfew at our Residence ,believe it or not 1st year 9 pm like it or not lights out at 10 pm , with proctors doing inspection , no radios, no, tv's,or flashlights , try tgat today lol.Plus side over 80 % success rate,we also had unlimited food and (Now this food a volonte was a big big plus) an intramural sports system was in place.Positive side more High school type trusting relationships that last a Lifetime.For A few individuals these relationships whether through business or even marriage.Studying all the time will turn you into a shriveled raisin on a grape cluster destined for winery.Sweet but dry.

[@thomasmorrison3279]

Kids. I have an engineering degree and a law degree. I paid off my student loans, but I would not do it again. If you have any mechanical aptitude whatsoever, learn a skilled trade such as HVAC technician, plumber, electrician, or welder. There is always a demand, and if you join a union or build up clients and start your own business, you can make over 100k/year. No student loans and get paid while you work as an apprentice. Every city in the world needs these skills. Try to find a skilled mason to fix your walkway or house. One guy quoted me $2500 for one day worth of masonry work using my bricks. The honest and hard working skilled trades people that I know make over 100k per year and turn away work, because they are so busy, e.g., in the Washington, DC metro area.

[@gavi7161]

👍

[@AshDemonYoung]

There's actually a trade school that Disney utilizes to train their future journeymen (electrician/engineering type thing). It pays WHILE you attend, you have a steady job with good benefits, a union! And even if you decide not to work for disney after completing your schooling and getting your journeyman's license, you can take that license and work about anywhere with it. My wife is doing it and she got a degree in english/journalism and worked for a local paper. She says if she could do it all over again, she would have gone straight into the trade school and skipped college all together.

[@rfengr00]

Skilled engineers make well over $100k.

[@blackjackmafia5282]

Lol I make $700000 and I dropped out of High School my Sophomore year.

[@devinpeirce7152]

Blackjack Mafia doing what ?

[@miro.georgiev97]

Lifelong college education actually sounds like a nightmare to me (speaking as a sophomore from Georgia State University). It's the height of this ethic (if you can call it that) of permanent, infinite "growth" at all costs. You can never slow down or just stop and breathe because you'll always learn and always work. Why can't you just learn what you - oh, I don't know - _actually_ want out of pure intellectual curiosity, instead of treating every learning opportunity like a cost-benefit analysis or a "need" because "the economy said so"? (Of course, I shouldn't be surprised that these university officials are so enthusiastic about all this. 😒)

[@RETROREPORT]

That is a very interesting perspective, though probably a good portion of those seeking lifelong learning are motivated by continuing intellectual curiosity.

[@FINEDENTIST]

When I started school in Grade one my Parents because of my nature decided to enrol me in a French language school .My Father accompanied me on my first Cryng day I might add ,at lunchtime I was informed I woukd not be returning to said School.I was enrolled in an English Nun run school, After one morning at lunchtime I decided this schooling experience has been interesting but they had offered me all they had, so off I went,I left,needless to say being 6 years old this apparently was not a decision I could make on my own,according to my Parents and panicking Nuns, Did I mention I was a Wanderer and having gone on a few walkabouts already knew our town oy 25000 like back of my six year old hand.Mom had a network of friends she would phone and ask if they had seen myself or a few others of same age that ran together.School was not on top of my list as you can see.Well I graduated High school ,then to College ,then to University,then to military College then 30 +years of University level Continuing Education, up to 6 months ago, my running away turned into a bother 65 years of school, I sincerely miss it already.Done for additional profit ? Maybe at beginning, but not after, extremely satisfying and personally rewarding the camaraderie is an enjoyable treasured bonus, I do feel however as if all the knowledge I have accumulated will soon be wasted as I along with all others is preparing for the big dirt nap.Singularity where are you oh ! Most illusive of targets., where art thou?

[@selalewis9189]

Well I think that’s the problem with the way this story is presented. You’re right, you should learn what you’re interested in, once you’ve learned how to learn independently. But this story pretty much concludes that people are primarily learning to keep up economically.

[@tompain2751]

@@RETROREPORT I'm satisfying my intellectual curiosity on You Tube.

[@skellymom]

@@RETROREPORT I agree! Learning for the love and sake of just learning. No pressure to bring "value" to the work place or try to prove your "worth" to society that is translated to money.

[@battistaverardi1240]

You know what you get after college or university? A reciept, no such thing as a diploma or degree.

[@Blueweek1]

you get a bill instead

[@pawsnotclaws2772]

Battista Verardi lmao

[@selalewis9189]

Essentially, when you learn, keep learning. This is not news to people with a formal education. This is why we have libraries. Not because we resent private education. But because we’ve always known that a good society is an informed society. Framing digital learning as an economic need rather than an intrinsic value is a frankly cynical view. We also learn because it makes our lives better. I really wish your story had dug deeper into why colleges and universities started online learning in the first place. It’s been pitched to us for over a decade now as “the future of education.” But when news stories rarely talk about the longstanding benefits of on-campus learning, and attending physical classrooms provided by the school, I continue to have doubts about this so-called brave new world where a student is learning on a laptop in a coffee shop where they’re actually paying for everything, and the school does little to offset those costs.

[@snakechrmr6398]

I didn't have money for college so went in the Army. Got out 7 years later as a Warrant Officer flying helicopters with a nice chunk of savings, zero debt, 3 years solid mid mgmt experience and an (always) in demand marketable skill around the world that with 2-3 more years experience pays over $100K/yr. And still only a HS diploma. Be careful looking down your nose at trades.

[@quincekreb6798]

I went into the Army making Aviation maintenance and flight crew on UH 60 Black Hawk helicopters. Was in Active Duty for 7 years, then the Army National Guard as a military member and DoD Federal Civilian aircraft technician. Retired from the military with 24+ years and DoD Federal Civilian position of 13 years.

[@snakechrmr6398]

@@quincekreb6798 You were smarter than me. I was lucky. Had many friends over the years that lost their medicals and couldn't fly anymore. Towards the end of my career I wished I'd had an A&P to fall back on or even to continue working instead of retiring when my skill set began dull.

[@iwanttosurvive3992]

I wish companies would just invest in testing and teaching qualified applicants for employment.

[@jerryrichardson2799]

I think that's coming.

[@turtle2pond]

As a former contractor for a big tech company I can tell you that they are already doing this. We were trained with self-guided lessons, one on one, solo trial and then tested. We were only allowed to work on certain things after passing a test but then our work was graded weekly. If you fail you lose your job. There were presentation decks, flowcharts and team meetings etc. It is possible for instance to train someone with no legal background to handle legal inquiries and prepare notes for corporate lawyers in a few weeks if you hire the right contractor. The worker ofcourse gets no real benefits nor big check unlike the "real" employees who are your managers. That's how it works here in Silicon Valley.

[@JCReynardus]

There should be a balance between traditional methods of education and modern, more technological ways. You now can access to the best schools and Universities using the internet. But the human bond between students and professors is irreplaceable, knowledge often involves emotions and that connection is priceless. As usual, GREAT VIDEO!! Thanks Retro Report 👏👏

[@RETROREPORT]

Thanks!

[@FINEDENTIST]

I have just finished a 30 year stint organizing Continuing Education courses for Dentists and Auxiliaries .Now this was a challenge, How do you get Ultra busy Professionals to attend such,considering number of years spent in education already.Also getting them to participate time -wise as time is money and in a non operating office revenues are non existent. There is a formula where more people are happy,costs are negligible, people learn,and Networks set up.I must add I did this totally pro bono integrating Education-Industry-Production .Average cost per participant per diem of University level Course was 10.00 US.These Courses were as you can imagine quite popular included in the cost was a brunch and free parking and coat check.Did I mention we accumulated enough surplus funds to operate for next 3 years without charging 300 members or attendees a cent.Yes it's doable.We have had all types of courses.Lecture type with Audio Visual, Table clinic types, hands on lectures , Multiple video conferencing moderated lectures, we even established a Video tape library in early days with members submitting written reports that were peer reviewed before issuing credits.Most difficult wall we have been attempting to climb is the stay at home ,participate online with Lecturers or one where you would be able to visualise Course you wished video style.Participants were reluctant,they enjoyed the learning and socializing aspect ,most being stuck in offices all day with a lack of interaction between classmates and peers.The networks established themselves and increase in quality and rate of advancement of Services available .Win win I might add.Moral is up.

[@skellymom]

Especially jobs that require extensive hands on practicum to learn and succeed. I am a certified veterinary technician and online is great, but it's no replacement for actually working in a clinic, drawing blood, monitoring heart rate/breathing in a patient, monitoring behavior and patient restraint, interacting with clients to help their pets. There definitely needs to be a balance between online and physical interaction for learning.

[@wendallparker8420]

People have to be lifelong learners. It doesn’t matter if you go to college or not, always make sure to evolve your mind. After I graduated college, I read a ton of books and experimented with my ideas. It has paid off.

[@ProbablyOnLSD6669]

Gee, the fact that college costs an arm and a leg to attend to begin with wouldn’t happen to have something to do with this new need to never stop attending it now would it..?

[@MW-gh1mo]

Yup, the same reason they convinced the government to back loans. This allowed colleges to raise tuition far, far faster than the rate of inflation. Student loans have helped line the pockets of those who work for the universities.

[@janinewetzler5037]

You really do have to retrain thru out your life to stay relevant. No one has the same job for 30 to 40 years and then retirement anymore. And with the state of advances in all work, you do have to keep learning !!

[@janinewetzler5037]

@@MW-gh1mo I've been back to College thrice since initially graduating high school. Once for my Horticultural Certificate, I did pay, (a series of night school courses). Since then, I have utilized many government sponsored training financial incentives like Second Career here in Ontario, Canada, and right now: Apprenticeship in diesel mechanics with classroom training as well. More and more colleges are including alumni incentives to retrain by offering discounts and free classes as well. Look into it !! Don't forget to take advantage of being a senior too, if you are there in age: Here in Toronto, Ontario, Canada Ryerson University offers free interest weekend and night school for seniors, and York University offers full degrees for free to seniors.

[@MW-gh1mo]

@@janinewetzler5037 I have 2 B.S. Degrees from a major university. I am well employed, but do not need either degree to do what I do.

[@MW-gh1mo]

@@janinewetzler5037 Sure, that is exactly what the schools want you to think, since they want your money. My wife is a teacher, has been for nearly 30 years. The additional schooling she is required to do is not worth while at all. Additional training or "certification", is very often nothing more than a money grab.

[@chrisschrader6564]

College takes too long. Bunch of useless information and you forget most of it the next day and in a few years you'll remember a small fraction of what you "learned". I've been to a big university for two separate degrees and it took many years and many thousands of dollars. I've also been to two military training schools and they instruct all 40 hours a week, exactly what you need to know to perform a job and then push you out to do it. That model would get people into the workforce faster with way less debt, however college is just another business and they want you there as long as possible.

[@rashaud99]

I understand what you are saying, but I think your opinion depends on what you study. I don't want some doctor operating on me who "wizzed' through college in 6 months. In terms of your military training experience, I think jobs where someone has "taught you exactly what you need to know" to do the job indicates that the job doesn't require any thinking or innovation of any kind. Jobs like those don't need humans performing them and can be easily automated.

[@patriciavandevelde5469]

So true

[@TheMilpitasguy]

Re-education is great, of course. I go to a community college to learn something different, something new within computer science & I look for work within that area only to find employers want hands-on experience, not just book learning. Wait, what?

[@briantayco6414]

In September of 1997 I attended Hunter College. Ok, I went to college for 5 years and then formally left. Only to return to graduate in May, 2012 paid through money deferment, at the time. Money deferment works when the bank pays half of the semester and you the student pays other half via installments during that semester. This way you graduate debt free, which was cool. My mom helped me with the installments. Then in 2002 I formally left, reason being to helped caregive for a friend that had Lymphedema, Type 2 Diabetes, and High Blood Pressure. Lymphedema is swelling of the legs and other body parts. Walking was a serious problem for him. I cared for him for 7 years. It was humbling, and it was my choice. He was my best friend. I cared for him because his mother who was well into her 70s could not do it. And she only spoke Spanish. So doctor visits and hospital stays would have been a bit of a problem for her. I did this for 7 years of my own accord. I lived in his home, helped with everything. I was not working at the time. In November of 2009, he died. And I had to move back home with my Dad. I was looking for a job, and yes that was a nightmare. It was not till the girlfriend of mine at the time said, "Why don't you go back to school?" I honestly had no interest due to my age and the length of time it took. But she insisted I go back to Hunter and ask questions. So I did. And the academic advisor explained CUNY has a 10 year rule. So if you leave a Cuny school you have 10 years to return, after that you start from the beginning. I left in 2002 I was gone for 7 years. I had 3 to finish school. So I went back. Since I had no job, I was living with my dad, and options were limited I applied for TAP and FAFSA. Yeah I know crazy. I put down 0 for everything, since I had nothing. I got a response, stating that I needed a notarized letter from my dad explaining my situation. Mind you my dad is retired and on Social Security, and I was living with him. Basically, I had to declare destitution. I went back to school in 2011. And every semister I had to submit the same notarized letter. I already finished my major and minor before I left in 2002. Everything else was electives and 2 basic requirements. I graduated in a year and half. Mind you I had 3 years to do it and I luck out in graduating debt free. At the end of my final semester I got a job in retail. And after graduating I was stuck in retail hell for the next 3 years. Now I work in Office Services, mailroom. Pay is a bit better but I'm doing it for now. Now, I have a BA Media Studies and Minor in English. Never pursued my field. But I'm glad i graduated it help me get a job. But I have no intention to return to as I do not want to be in massive debt. If anything, I would rather have gone to a trade school or community college if the opportunity was presented to me in High School. Instead of, 4 year college, 4 year college, 4 year college.

[@IllyCrystal]

3:35 "The data are very clear here" that this was a ninja grammar move.

[@seventhchild7270]

So you go to college or back to college, but then in debt for the rest of your life along with other debt to just maintain a living....

[@user-lu6yg3vk9z]

Pretty much it’s a scam. KZbin #Outwithstudentdebt. Let me get your thoughts.

[@MW-gh1mo]

There are so many degrees that are a complete waste of money. But of course the people at a college are going to tell us we need to go to college, not once, but forever. Universities almost never have people teaching there who really know what is going on in the current economy. I mean how could they, they have spent the last 2o years in academia.

[@garychandler119]

COLLEGE ENDS BUT LEARNING NEVER DOES. LIFE TEACHES YOU WHAT COLLEGES GOT WRONG.

[@deeas6518]

Very little of what you learn in university will be of any use, especially humanities courses. It is mostly a hoop to jump through, to try and impress future employers

[@rashaud99]

Why are humanities courses useless?

[@deeas6518]

@@rashaud99 In what skill or trade would humanities be useful & necessary? No employer will ever ask you which humanities courses you took.

[@rashaud99]

@@deeas6518 Success is not just about "what courses you took". Success involves being able to understand different contexts. Dealing with people, understanding political context, understanding social context, understanding human psychology, and being able to communicate (perhaps in different languages) are all crucial skills to success no matter what field you are in.

[@deeas6518]

@@rashaud99 Spoken like a true humanities lecturerer

[@rashaud99]

@@deeas6518 The thing is...I'm an engineer though (Texas A&M University -BS Civil Engineering).

[@operoverlord]

How to become a digital slave. How great. We could go to college for the rest of our lives, and even get to spend money doing it! Oh boy!

[@suzystone244]

Skilled learning. Drive a truck. Welding. Tangeable training. An actual trade job is successful in many ways. Believe it or not, if money ran out at least one can barter trade and skills. People are doing this now. When shit hits the fan, the survival skills come into play. At least I can drive a big rig and weld. I can grow food. Fish. Homestead. Barter and trade.

[@saltyapostle44]

Scary thing is that information/thinking jobs are going to be the ones most easily tailored to A.I. The mechanic's job is safe. The lawyer's is not. Even coding is not safe after the A.I. learns how to program itself.

[@skellymom]

I totally agree that everyone should never stop learning. It keeps the brain pliant and people engaged in discovering new things about them and the world. And, that the world is constantly changing, so learning new things is necessary. HOWEVER, the cost needs to come down considerably. AND, cost of living needs to be lower with jobs actually paying decent benefits and a living wage so people can invest in themselves and still live. Otherwise, these online colleges aren't going to survive, either.

[@fan.of.feet2310]

It’s easy why colleges are dying 1) everyone is becoming an equal opportunity employer, meaning people get trained in the job not needing a degree 2) college costs are skyrocketing 3) scholarships can easily be ruined if you decide to change your plan

[@AdADglgmutShevanel]

Colleges really do need to change and be cheaper because they're going to die. There is so much free and inexpensive knowledge on the internet. I got a job as a web developer after just one year of studying, and I paid less than $100 for everything. If I had gone to college with no scholarships or grants it would have been $90K-160K, and it would have taken me 4 years.

[@amartinjoe]

a college degree is still important - it opens doors not available to the rest. It's frustrating to apply for a high paying job only to find out that they require a college degree. It's demoralizing.

[@acajudi100]

This is great..

[@catgolfer1]

The 'Victorian Model of Education' is obsolete. 🐈

[@JayPersing]

'Physical classrooms may be the next sacrifice of the internet age' that didn't age well.

[@juanturcios5999]

I am bout to really get a college degree online now because of corona haha 😆

[@paulcoffman7357]

Was that a ad?

[@daltonwilliams2962]

3:34 Very true in my personal experience

[@arguswil]

I quit college junior year 2007. It's time to finish.

[@IrontwistFiM]

Why is the first episode being uploaded after the second episode?

[@RETROREPORT]

Good question. Ordering this way helps make previous episodes more visible for anyone who may have missed them.

[@LivingFree207]

Both our children are getting online degrees. They are very good programs. They have saved a lot of time and money from going back and forth to a college campus, while fighting traffic, wear and tear on car, gas, etc... or having to pay to stay on campus. With the busy lifestyle of today, online education is the way to go...especially those who are married and with children. There is just so little time and with this online opportunity, everyone has a chance for success. Online education will be the norm for many programs and will become more user friendly and interactive. As far as socialization...because there is less time getting ready for school and commute time...there is more time to socialize outside the home with family and friends.

[@pawsnotclaws2772]

I can’t wait

[@Cindybal505]

sounds like a promotion for college & why you should take on more debt

[@genesearch5676]

Yale or jail.... who is the best qualified will get the job.

[@wanderingangelstudio1359]

College wasn't always a place one went to eventually gain employment via a degree program. At one time, it was a place to get a well rounded higher education and learn about the world. Getting a degree meant studying languages, the arts and literature. College was never originally designed to get people jobs. Now colleges are bill themselves as pre-employment factories. Meanwhile, we've lost our value of the arts and culture in the US, both of which have a place in society. As for online courses, they are A LOT more work. I know this because I've taken them. I do like the idea of interactive classes. You'll absolutely need at least a Master's get start. I saw that trend coming when I went back to college in 2006. I quickly realized that I'd need a Master's to make any money right out of the gate. The alumni benefit is already available in a different form for many seniors at least. Right now I can take audit classes, many for free. I won't get credit for them, but I can take them. Sadly, here in the US, older workers have little value in the workplace. I've seen this over and over again in the results of countless studies on hiring practices. I've also experienced age discrimination first hand.

[@ChocoholicChick222]

I do wish that training was placed back in the hands of companies. Do you really need a degree for data entry? Or, there needs to be a push to incorporate work and study. Theory is important, but you need to be able to apply it. Also, being on the teaching side of University (as a tutor), students who come to class do significantly better than those who don't. I've seen it with a student who went from failing to solid As to A-s with their assignments when they began attending class. Though, University is infinitely more accessible, financially, in New Zealand. If you want graduates then don't make it so expensive.

[@dfpolitowski2]

Infomercial, "the new model is that people come back to you episodically through out there life time" Nah, this isn't going to happen. People move on in life. Marriage and family and work, life in church reading about other things captivate their interest. I got rid of all my books from college after ten year of toting them around. Never went back to reference them. Use the internet instead or buy new books.

[@freeyourmind8849]

This is a huge problem. I do not want to go to school all my life. I have kids to raise and a few dreams to follow. So what's left of my paycheck? Got to put money aside for retirement, then old age, then for my 2 kids and no more, savings, bills, emergency, leisure, the math doesn't add up. People are worried about not being in class to talk to classmates that's minor, their is an elephant in the room.

[@tube.brasil]

NOT TRUE. Companies dont care much about graduate studies, especially for executives. People who stay at work climbing the corporate ladder move up. People who stop to study often can't find work. Maybe in technical jobs or R&D it is different, but not in the executive, sales, marketing areas. However, if you dont come from a top college, forget about your chances for even being called for an interview in large companies.

[@intelligentdesign-evolutio5841]

I earned a MBA the old way in the 1970s. The masters degree is or will be in 5 years equivalent to a BS degree in say 1975. Online courses may not be ideal for most students. There is a surplus of college grads in 2019.

[@stealthcamo712]

I have a major issue with this presentation as it is correct that our ever changing working world is accelerating you have to ponder at what it is accelerating toward, which is truly automation. With automation, we are looking at a world where less human labor is needed and it is also much cheaper to invest in tech software and robotics, especially for the large companies. We already see this happening in the last several years in Asia. How is the human going to be able to keep up with the exponential acceleration of learning and programming from a program? How are humans going to be able to learn faster, practice more, and perform at a higher standard when the software machine is learning on it's own, hive mind learning is used, and perfect memory thanks to harddrives? I see a real change in the work force of the world likely in my lifetime and an ever increase difficulty of humans being relevant. E.g., Amazon has a warehouse that is completely run by robots and programs, except for the manager who is human. That person is alone at all times watching over the warehouse run and operate on it's own. Pretty incredible.

[@Joe-eq7ug]

Trade is king

[@richardramfire3971]

The problem is a lot of jobs are requiring degrees for jobs that shouldn’t require degrees

[@ericdoustov6147]

I believe that the modern-day college/university education system has become more of a business than a place which once upon a time guaranteed better employment prospects, hence a better life. To fix this broken post-secondary system, we need to a) eradicate the substantial tuition costs (one can do so by removing all of the unnecessary 3rd party administrations, irrelevant gen-ed courses, expensive compulsory textbook materials, to name a few) b) Not necessary shorten the duration of post-secondary education, but rather apply the "apprenticeship" model (currently utilized in most trades) which interestingly enough we once had i.e.. before the inception of American Bar Association prospective legal students engaged in "reading the law" -- a legal apprenticeship which allowed one to obtain the practical knowledge that modern post-secondary systems fail to educate in. This leads to my last suggestion, which is to improve the already existent co-op system associated with the undergraduate area of study. We must ensure that all of the programs offered are coupled with a co-op placement. In doing so, I believe we can mitigate to some extent the crippling college debt, and the wasting of 4-6 years of productivity that each new generation does by opting for the current post-secondary education.

[@peterlorenzi5414]

The "system" was not "inherited;" it was consciously created by those who are now at the university presidential level.

[@ewetn1]

When the industrial rev was beginning, oligarchs seized land from peasants. Those peasants had a comfortable existence: they could grow their food, build their own houses, make their own clothes, etc. Adam Smith explicitly says that capitalism is a system of debt slavery. Those once self sufficient peasants were now desperate for anything, and took factory jobs so they could at least eat. But since the factory jobs paid soo little, they would not be able to save up , or move up the socio-economic ladder. The meager wages ensured a constant supply of workers. This is also how sex trafficking works.... You make big promises of $$$ to lure them in, you force them to sell their body over and over, but you take all of most of the money for yourself, ensuring that the woman can never have enough resources to leave. Capitalism is basically an MLM. The people at the very top become wildly rich doing nothing, the people at the bottom but into the dream, try as hard as they can, but just keep going into more and more debt. (

[@robbiem4624]

College and technical job training should be free and upgraded like high school. During the turn of the century high was treated like college is today. I say that because generally most people only had 5th or 8th grade.

[@thomasteal5609]

To me if you have to get loans out for your entire tuition and living, community college should be mandatory. Or some type of online option. 100k debt that you can't pay. I am sick of politicians rubbing our faces in it like we forced them to do this.

[@destinyrincon6476]

who else is coming from school

[@Exelius]

I can't understand why everybody encourages regular people to learn computer science instead of just hire computer scientist to do computer things. Should I study medicine to keep me healthy? No! I justo go to a doctor!

[@gerardoberdin6036]

education is still a key to land a good or high paying job. although experience is the best teacher. Imagine if we have professionals who have not graduated in college or university. what would be the barometer of competency and efficiency.

[@kivie13]

I never got a college degree and I retired at age 47. To me every day is a Saturday and every night a Friday. Neener neener neener.

[@darthvader5300]

Face to face STUDENTS human interaction in real time and sharing notes in a physical tanglble location allows a much more integrated synergization of ideas for ONLY face to face human interaction allows complex thoughts to coalesce into greater ideas leading to REALISTIC BREAKTHROUGHS without any hacker or industrial spies stealing your ideas or group ideas. There is more security and privacy of intellectual thoughts freedoms.

[@boxfox1239]

Linemen make 120 base salary. 260 overtime

[@soyoungpark910]

Willing to expecting are not going to work,where companies are really need some one,they need to educate them especially part times ,internship internals 3rd company systems,and you put people live in the cars will more life styles are lower each parts of computers are expensive and change past.

[@paulbrown5937]

little did they know how important this would become lmao

[@kivie13]

Hmmm..... so people from a college telling you that you have to get more college. Interesting, and no doubt there isn't any conflict of interest there. I have no college degree and have no desire to get one. All of my siblings have college degrees of varying types. I retired at the grand old age of 47 (now 54) and all of my siblings will have to at least work until normal retirement age. Pull your heads out and realize that these people are telling you how to live your life at their benefit, not yours. The rich people at the top want you to be a wage slave your entire life.

[@noahhenderson3164]

The only reason I'm going to college is cuz nursing requires it to get into the upper levels. 😞 I feel bad for lots of people who go, because the economy is so wack and stupid most of the time. College is just part of that stupid shit trying to get the most money.

[@jenny1234361]

College and Uni are high risk investment for the individual. Seriously, what sane person would invest say $100k, AND 4 or more years of their life, in the very real and increasing possibility of $0 return? Duh! Oh but wait, there is a return, for the BUSINESSES involved - the lenders and ‘educators’.

[@JeandrePetzer]

1:11 wtf is going on here?

[@ironwill8596]

We should have started online classes years agolong time ago I did a history class over the summer and they just sent a book through the mail. If we replaces education system that we are insend the educational system will not have a tyrannical stranglehold on communities as far as property taxes go

[@beavisbutthead8287]

more like FULL OF IT

[@mrmanyousef4511]

This not fair at all in life why people in USA are lucky and have good education centers why only there not in all over the world it’s really very painful 😣 when your smart but for any reason the luck or god but you in a 3rd world country were it’s really designed to fail any person to become useful in this short life am really really really sad 😢 I always wanted to do something for humanity I hated to waist my life time unfortunately life is not fair at all people in the first world you should be really lucky and appreciate what you have good education + good life + extremely nice 👍 environment that support the human need to success

[@mindsub9030]

College is what you pay for it. pay for play

[@irfanulkarim4992]

Nice ad

[@surfingswimmer1711]

the trouble is that college is designed to teach skills for jobs that existed 40 years ago. Most people go to college to escape reality, they are looking for a job with impact and fulfillment, because they don't want to work hard in a boring situation. Then there's the feminists and touchy feely people who have agitated the government to fund all the silly degrees in social sciences and arts and studies degrees. So they can escape the boring and difficult jobs that require intelligence. Most degrees are absolutely worthless.

[@j.namwen.97]

More loans. Got it 😂

[@soreal091987]

This is stupid.. This video is basically tell people to go the school, get a worthless disagree with a ton of debt.

[@garychandler119]

WHY DO SO MANY COLLEGE GRADUATES HAVE TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL TO LEARN. SOMETHING THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET GOOD JOB WITH. . HOW MANY OF COLLEGE GRADUATES DO WORK NOT TAUGHT WITH THEIR COLLEGE DEGREE. THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL TO LEARN AN EDUCATION TO REALLY GET A GOOD JOB. LIBERAL ARTS SUCKS..

[@Shadowfynx]

Sounds terrible

[@masonreppeto882]

nah trade schools are better than colleges.

[@ea.lowkey]

get um covid

[@kkingcombo12345]

College scam.

[@bschinzel]

Basically a propaganda piece. YOU WILL do unpaid job training for the rest of your life, or else you will be eliminated. Its inevitable. Can we just call college what it actually is and represents? UNPAID job training. Enough of this shit.