Futuristic Laminated Steel Shotgun Slug - This is a WEIRD one!

[@jasonwilde197]

Well, those Rotor designs are engineered to spin stably at high RPM. Actually, you CAN easily mass produce those with Casting Dyes. Just don't expect forged hardened rounds. I still miss Danny.

[@Jay22222]

Knowing Evan, these have likely been machined down which means all the work (cuts they make) they do to make them balanced have been machined off and they’re stamped because it’s cheap and tolerances dont matter so much, because they’re going to be stabilised. The fact they’ve then been machined afterwards (a step that the manufacturers were trying to avoid) they’re likely really pretty okay even though the balancing cuts have been machined off.

[@zorro456]

Maybe you could cast a long rod or a rope like a Churro. Then just cut to the length you want.

[@Jake_Hamlin]

In the first 10 seconds they explain how it's made from steel laminations, dozens of them stuck together. Cast is very different, CNC would be closer but could probably still break..

[@darrellbeets7758]

This wont cast easy...at all....and how do u expect this precision from casting 2...

[@ericsfishingadventures4433]

We all miss Danny what a cool dude he was!

[@richfiles]

I've been in electric motor manufacturing for 21 years. The process used to make these is kinda straight forward. we have alignment jigs with a center post and alignment keys on the edges. You grab a bunch of the steel laminations and slide them onto the jig, and then tighten a cap onto the end to hold them into place. We then either dip or brush an adhesive to bond the laminations. those get cured, then the stacks are removed from the jigs and put into an oven. We dip the stacks into a fluidizer machine. The fluidizer pumps air through a powder from underneath, making it loose, like quicksand. It's like powder coating but with dipping a hot item into quicksand. we use a roll of paper on the inside diameter to protect it, and roll the still hot stacks on a large sheet of paper on a roll to take the powder coat off the outer diameter. From there, they can have the inner and outer diameter ground to specifications. That's how you make these armature stacks! If you continue the manufacturing process, thick paper, or plastic wedges are inserted into the slots to protect wire from the edges of the metal, and wire is then wound on a winding machine, and then inserted into the slots. The appropriate connections are then either soldered or crimped to either leadwires or to a commutator or slip ring, depending on the type of device being manufactured. Brushless motors have the stack fixed to the motor housing, and have leadwires or terminals. The rotor uses permanent magnets on the rotating assembly. Most brushless motors have the stator around an inner rotor, except for hub motors, where the magnets are on the outside body, and the whole body of the motor spins around a central fixed stator. Brush motors have an inner armature (what you see in the video), and have the coils wound and connected to a commutator, which is like a spinning electrical switch contact. They can have either magnets or a fixed stator winding as the fixed outer body. Other devices like Synchros and Resolvers are sometimes used in the aviation industry, or in military or space applications. Synchros have both a fixed stator and a rotating armature, but use slip rings to connect the armature. They are used as amplitude modulated analog rotational position sensors. Resolvers are similar, but use an extra pair of stator and rotor coils to energize a brushless rotor, without using slip rings or commutators. They output a phase angle based output derived from the sine and cosine of their energization signal. These are almost never, ever seen in any consumer device. Some older style analog tachometers use a fixed stator winding and a drag cup or drag disc to introduce more or less eddy currents through the drag component, which is just a disc or cup made from a metal like brass. as it spins, it generates electrical fields through itself, and those fields are picked up as induced current in another coil. Today, these have mostly been replaced by magnetic hall effect sensor chips, but were relatively common in many older machines that had some manner of tachometer attached to a motor.

[@Mr.Robert1]

My life is complete now. I can rest in peace.

[@DanHarkless_Halloween_YTPs_etc]

I don't know why you're bothering to do a detailed description of such an obvious and "straightforward" process. 😜 Seriously, though - thanks for sharing that manufacturing know-how (we got a little bonus _How It's Made_ episode!).

[@davidkaye8712]

When you shot the 9mm BOTH my lungs flew out my back and I'm in the UK, those high capacity rounds are dangerous. I think you are on to a winner with the Plastisol. Gel Juice, sounds like an OG 80's band.

[@gimpygrandpa8281]

Brandon has always been an idiot. Now he's also dangerous. He was installed to trigger the reset.

[@joeisslow1638]

That's the other worldly power of those high caliber 9mm automatic rounds !!! Blowing lungs out across the globe hahahahahahah

[@taofledermaus]

Those 9mm high caliber clipazines!

[@robertallison9653]

Let's go Brandon!

[@davidkaye8712]

@@taofledermaus Is that another OG band, High Capacity Clipazines or is that his stripper name ?!?!?!

[@B.R.B.69]

I love how Jeff had no idea what Greg was doing with the two gel blocks. 🤣

[@Gunny1971]

Oh, he knew.

[@ZarkowsWorld]

Small gel-blocks running around in a week.

[@ehehe84]

So it's not just for simulating tissue

[@bobbyventers8726]

I don’t know why someone from some company hasn’t got Evan working their special projects for mass production of a lot of his work. He comes up with some awesome stuff.

[@taofledermaus]

I know!

[@kennyhagan5781]

Backyard tinkerers have done some pretty amazing things over the years.

[@John-Hians]

Thank you for being one of the few gun tube channels that has fun *demolition* videos but hasn’t sold out and gotten clickbaity. I’ve been watching your videos for years and I still love them

[@taofledermaus]

Thank you Will. I think some channels tend to appeal to a teenage audience more than others.

[@MoldyStir-Fry]

Consistent test mediums are strangely satisfying to me. The plastisol seems to work great and at half the cost, I think you could easily make it a staple of this channel!

[@Oldmanwithagoldpan]

Agreed 👍🏻

[@jeffreis5194]

Now we all need to send them our used soft plastic baits

[@ObservationofLimits]

Especially if you can reprocess it

[@jeffreis5194]

@@ObservationofLimits good plastisol can be reheated indefinitely...i use dead on plastic for my needs

[@stephanematis]

Agreed 100$

[@BradGryphonn]

I like the cheap fish gel block. It seems to 'set' the stress areas and leaves the bubbles or fracture lines in the gel far better than the clear stuff. The Yellow gel traps the expansion zones. Very cool. In the clear gel, you only see the expansion in the slo-mo shots.

[@gman9945]

Jeff trying to keep it together while Greg makes the jel blocks hump...... Classic!

[@angrylittlespider4593]

Gelhub (with demonstration)---and Jeff keeps on talking! Nothing to see here, folks. Don't ever change. You guys are freaking awesome! 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@MI-wc6nk]

It seems to me the Plastisol captures in a much more visual and permanent way, the temporary wound cavity (less need for slow mo to see the expansion). great find!

[@nyshockartist]

100%

[@scottsmith4469]

I agree. It seems to showcase the damage after the shot. Potentially giving us the viewers a better look and understanding of the aftermath. Without having to watch the hi-speed over and over. Maybe try a back light for viewing or a pin light at the entry wound to see if it might light up the track

[@lynnritchie70]

YES!!!!

[@forteandblues]

Yeah that’s great!

[@GrowlieDave]

14:55. It's beautiful to see the rotation of the bullet is imparted to the gel. If you watch you can see a definite spiral that follows the bullet

[@spudsmccatfish]

The line about stepping away so our lungs don’t fly out made me spit out my drink😂🤣

[@professionalidiots101]

I love the inner child in Greg that comes out and says hello on every video 🤣😂 On another note, the yellow gel does really show AND hold the wound canal in a much more graphic way. Keep up the great work 👍🏻

[@bpri9880]

If you look closely in the high speed, you can see the helix type shock wave or vapor trail on the slug that was shot at the lead plate.

[@skrimper]

thanks for sharing, good observation

[@CowCommando]

I'm going to have to go back and rewatch that.

[@Fish-ub3wn]

20:00 you made my day

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!

[@enjoylifenh]

Officer Greg is the best spokesperson for never growing up! Gelhub (smh) ! Bwah a ha I love 💘 your content and enjoy both of your insights on ballistics, scewups, fashion and of course the vast plethora of OG's bands! Thank you for being harbingers of sanity in a world of the other thing!

[@OGsDangerShow]

Thanks for watching. 🤟😎

[@timmyd.7665]

Greg you crack me up man. The gel blocks making baby gel blocks at the end had me laughing

[@scotts.2624]

I used to work in a place that Made little motors. There were laminate stacks everywhere. Those things are made by the millions.

[@noahcount7132]

The Plastisol gel gets my vote. It appears to be a great projectile capturing medium and is also considerably less costly. That's a win, win! There's no need to call Brandon Benson by his last name, guys. You're TFM, not the military. Kudos once again to Evan the Innovator. Perhaps he'll send you more of his armature slugs to launch downrange when 'Armature Day' rolls around in the fall.

[@richardkelly897]

Lead plate, meat, and gel all in the same video! I hope these three are becoming the standard for the tests. Would love to see some of your favorites re tested in the plastisol. I’d say don’t worry about testing the different softness of the new gel, what you have works great and shows the what the round is doing perfectly. FBI standard is not important for your tests, and arguably capturing the slug is a much more useful data point.

[@taofledermaus]

Thank you!

[@martindinner3621]

Yep. So long as the block is internally consistent, go for it!

[@Oldmanwithagoldpan]

Agreed 👍🏻

[@WapTek123]

now that they can afford ballistic bait blocks , i hope so

[@UH1Phil]

19:55 The fact that this went right over Taos head was really funny. Never change, Gregg.

[@OGsDangerShow]

😆👍

[@sski]

Whatta jell humpin' good time! 🤣 Evan does it again! And of course you figure out the rest. Of course they needed the rifled spin, and your powder loading, etc, were spot on. Those rounds were great! I need to get the gear for shotgun round loading so I can make my own. It looks like fun and could come in handy. Thanks for the video!

[@Beastman1552]

Bring this man evan out there to test this stuff out, he's running the channel at this point

[@enjoylifenh]

That new gel stand in is quite impressive as well! The energy dump representation is cool looking!

[@Zippofanatic77outdoors]

Channel was recommended to me from a subscriber. Did not disappoint !

[@taofledermaus]

That's awesome!

[@zachyurkus]

Freakin love you guys. Glad you’re getting as many smiles out of ol Hank as I am! Nice shooting as well, as usual!

[@zachyurkus]

And wow, those Plastisol tests are super interesting

[@enjoylifenh]

You gave them hank, Brandon and Benson's older triplet?! Freaking epic!

[@OGsDangerShow]

Dude, those Hank Trill videos are hilarious. I was playing them for Jeff in between takes. He wanted to use the music but then heard the lyrics and said he couldn’t. Thanks Zach! 🤟😎

[@mikefranklin1253]

How about Brandon?

[@mikefranklin1253]

BTW, wouldn't armatures from a burned out motor work?

[@ObservingLibertarian]

13:13 Honestly I prefer this block to the perfectly clear one because being translucent but also with a color tinge: allows for a much greater degree of definition and detail of the wound cavity to come through on camera. There's more contrast which makes it a lot easier to see the details. Even if they were the same price per block (which they're apparently not) I would still prefer this block because I can actually see more detail on camera. Kick the video quality up to 1080p and have a look: you can *really* see what went on in that block. Which you couldn't see with with the clear nearly as well. Just to show it's not subjective: go through some previous vids and take a screen capture of a previous video using the clear gel, and at the same video setting take a screen capture of this block and then put both blocks on screen side by side. You can visibly see a lot more detail come through with this block, compared to the clear due to contrast. This is much better for the audience. Up close and in person the clear may be better - but on camera - this gives the viewer a lot more detail and definition and it's not even a close race.

[@peterpowers4851]

I would have loved to have seen at least 1 shot through a smooth bore. Even the failures are fascinating to watch.

[@taofledermaus]

It would have looked even worse that that 40 yard shot

[@Oldmanwithagoldpan]

@@taofledermaus Jeff, why not go to 10-15 yards with the smooth bore shots of exotics. That's the most common Home/self defense distance anyway. Actually 10-15 feet but I digress. And there would be virtually zero misses. Also, I really appreciate the load data in the beginning as I am an avid reloader and have just recently recreated the123 battery loads.. they worked great! Love your Soyence man! 💌👍🏻😎

[@KiithnarasAshaa]

9:25 This is patently evident to anyone following Firearms channels for any length of time. Paul Harrel makes it a point to highlight this since he does a lot of ammunition reviews and evaluations, showing that even different types and brands of the same caliber can cause rather substantial shifts in point of impact and group size.

[@deucedeuce1572]

Always wondered how that happens. They'll just have a shit in the Point of Impact, but they won't be any less accurate. They still group, but just in a different spot. A little higher or lower would be easier to understand, but the POI can change up, down, left or right (or in combination).

[@performancepursuit]

We took our plastisol target and added one layer of leather jacket, 3 layers of t-shirt, pork ribs to simulate pectorals, a 4x4 to simulate the 4x4 from In-N-Out that I just ate, 14 pomegranates and 3 passion fruit to simulate lung tissue, two frozen langostino lobsters to simulate the mass doctor's found in my lungs, a Lexmark toner cartridge, 3 more layers of t-shirt and leather jacket. Then we wrap it all in bananna leaves before applying our patented beer batter and a light panko breading. After that we fry the whole thing in EVOO until golden brown and serve it up hot with a side of OG's secret sauce.

[@scrappydoo7887]

I've got about a hundred small motors in my scrap.....have you considered leaving the copper turnings in so it's a heavier weight?

[@safetyfirstintexas]

would be good but it cant obstruct the bore diameter. why not pour lead?

[@tomstech4390]

@@safetyfirstintexas

[@TheRhinestoneHurricane]

I had considered leaving the wire on but the ends needed to be flat 😑

[@Krabinator79]

Bwaaaaaaaahhaaaaaaaaaa

[@eve_squared]

This was probably done for the reason that the more and more stuff you add the closer you get to just a normal solid lead slug.

[@yeetmcmeat]

being able to see the rifling on the bullet cut through the ballistic gel at 15:00 is amazing

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

Actually Jeff, these *WOULD* be practical to make if they end up working well, _even if_ they are still wound in copper... Belt sander with high grit, grind down the shaft and the copper on each end with in a few seconds, and the wire inside that's left will drop right out. Because it's pretty likely they will NOT be potted into the armature since they're small motors. However, if they do kick ass, we could just order the bare armature stack from some motor maker. Just tell them you want to wind them yourself for a custom application 😁 (now back to the video, only 1/3rd into it now lol)

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

And since the long one didn't fly well... If they're cheaper to cut if half -- they pry in half, but from experience on the laminated stacks for primary coils, you'll probably ruin a few layers on each side -- compared to buying two of the smaller size... all the better maybe?

[@ObservationofLimits]

If you could find the manufacturer and only buy the armatures it'd be cheap as hell. The magnet wire windings are the majority of the cost. The armature is just stamped plates.

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

@@ObservationofLimits Man... I'm probably not looking for the right word combo, but I'm having *quite a bit of trouble* tracking down armatures that are 3 to 5 pole _WITH_ only 3 to 5 arms, and in 0.69 inch (or 17.5mm) for a 12ga shotty... But it seems like _maybe_ the motors used in the cars for Slot Car Racing, might be the right size armature?? 🤔🤷‍♂️😞 Though this did make me wonder.... What about just shooting an *_ENTIRE_* cylindrical DC motor? 😁 Or even a "segmented stator" _with the hooks still attached,_ to act as fins... (it'd need a bulky sabot) 🥴

[@TheGeekiestGuy]

Steel lamination from an electronic motor? Hell yeah. Thanks guys. I gotta say, I love the music and sound effects you use, Jeff. Again, thanks. You guys rock. 🤙🏾

[@taofledermaus]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@vladdracula2643]

I always loved taking broken things and sometimes found little motors to take apart. I wondered if those bits would fly, awesome video.

[@thystaff742]

I'm definitely amazed at the workmanship of the slugs you receive. Seeing them perform is just the icing on the cake.

[@jazzwhiskey582]

Again Taofledermaus is at the cutting edge of innovation, I expect I will see some of the other channels start using plastisol. great Idea!

[@taofledermaus]

I would like ANY channel try to use it, even if they are little blocks for air rifles. Maybe we can figure out the best way to cook it.

[@johnmaresca69]

OG killed me with the lung comment. Just shows OG is just as or better suited to lead the free world. Great video. Let's Go Lung Butter!!!

[@troygrant5418]

them slugs ain't lung blowers are they?

[@the_dark_defender]

Great video as always guys, thank you. I've never heard anyone have anything positive to say about KZbin no longer displaying the number of dislikes a video gets. Content creators and users alike seem to prefer being able to see this data.

[@taofledermaus]

I've never been ashamed of any thumbs down. It always happens.

[@KaosII1968]

@@taofledermaus You tube never banned the "return the dislike" extension. I thought everyone was using it. As of 1:30am Chicago time June 4 you have 26 dislikes. I'm sure those are just from people who collect old Vacuum cleaners.

[@georgep54]

Funny thing about people that dislike the videos of that channel, 90% of them cannot even give a logical reason for that.

[@joshuagibson2520]

I hear with adblock or similar, you can still see the dislikes.

[@Oldmanwithagoldpan]

It was done to take away from the MASSIVE like to dislike ratio that the White House Page was getting. Lol FJB!

[@brandonmullins7406]

You have no idea how happy this video makes me as ive always wanted to see these launched at high speed also these are already being mass produced as the dc motors they come from are mass produced

[@ripplesnake]

I don't know what the reaction is or what causes it but I've seen it before in old tacle boxes where the plastisol lurres would eat into the hard plastic of the tackle box trays. So if you left the block of Plastisol on top of the block of ballistics gel it would start to degrade it and it don't take long either.

[@taofledermaus]

Interesting

[@infernaldaedra]

Probably leeching plasticizers into the other plastics. I think you have that greasy film that develops around those old lures I'm pretty sure that's the plasticizers leeching out with will dissolve into the other plastics.

[@utubedaveg]

not had that problem unless i had mixed up brands of worns.

[@Oldmanwithagoldpan]

I've got a few permanent worm trails in my old tackle box.. definitely a thing.

[@henryturnerjr3857]

Back in the 80s they would eat clean through tackle boxes. I think they have improved the formula somewhat since then.

[@dalewysinger3077]

Definitely like the plastisol block! Thanks, Evan, for the armature slugs. Very enjoyable every time guys, thanks!

[@frankthetank6558]

Yeashhh!!! I love this improvising series! Keep it coming! Love the work And actual science you use!!!

[@enjoylifenh]

Science they blinded me with ....science! They do the best physics lessons out there, you are so right!

[@BradGryphonn]

Sometimes in your KZbin travels, you come across a channel that draws you in when in the real world, you wouldn't even think the subject might be interesting. I've been subbed for some time now and have become a fanboy, waiting for the next projectile to be tested. Thanks, gang. Love your work, and greeting from Oz.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Brad!

[@DUKWAK]

Evan is some sort of slug wizard... awesome idea. Awesome video. Also, for what ever it's worth I kinda like the yellow gel. I liked seeing the captured projectile.

[@skrimper]

if there's ever an apocalypse he's gonna be the number 1 shotgun ammo producer of all time. He'll be like a borderlands character

[@StringDriver]

Love the 70’s game show-intermission-break music! Lots of brass! 🎺

[@BaronBoar]

I feel spoiled. This was awesome, all these different bits in the video. Also the yellow gel is pretty cool and I could see the spiraling in the gel. Good stuff.

[@taofledermaus]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@gkspud206]

When taking apart a cordless sds hammer drill i noticed the hammer/piston was probably a close size to fit inside a shotgun barrel, is a hardened solid cylinder with a smaller cylinder hammer part on the end.

[@cptrikester2671]

I've been taking these apart for a long time. Was wondering how they would work for your kinda thing. This is going to be good.

[@dessimarie6]

I love how Jeff is all scientific about the reaction between gels and OG is just like "haha gel goes boink"

[@ZMAN_420]

Hey Jeff, O.G. I hope everyone had a great memorial day! 👍🏻🇺🇲 The lead plate is my favorite! LOL I don't mind the yellow color personally of the plastisol.

[@ahdam82]

OG is the best. Keep up the great work!

[@johnkilcer]

Love the experiments with the new gel. Can't wait for more

[@bwood282]

When OG was making the gel blocks get it on, hilarious. Never stop guys

[@ncsaddlehunter77]

Love how Greg make the gel dance 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@vincedibona4687]

That stuff is high-silicone steel and is worth a little more than regular steel. Nice job as always, Evan, Gregg, Jeff, and anyone else around!

[@TheNetsrac]

I'd say, go with Plastisol, It works really well, and it's cheaper. The wound cavity is more visible as well compared to ballistic gel ones, it's like the light reflections in the yellow-ish gel are more detailed and easier to see. Thank you for the video guys, and thanks to Evan for his hard and amazing work 👍 I wish everyone a great weekend 😄

[@taofledermaus]

thank you very much

[@robertwhitlatch5102]

Thanks for all of the great entertainment over the years! I still remember the magic golf balls.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Robert!

[@HereticalKitsune]

When I look back at some of Evan's earlier designs, from 4 years ago or so, he certainly has improved! Less tumbling, more effect on target, much better slugs today!

[@IAMTHEGUNMAN]

the plastisol is way more satisfiying to look at when it can catch the twist in the round in a clear way. I think you are on to a winner there guys

[@MarkChong]

Armatures are the spinny part of a motor, so they're well-balanced and quite suited to high-speed rifling-imparted spin.

[@SpankyK]

That bit with the gell slaping was funny AF OG. 🤣

[@OGsDangerShow]

I’m here to help, Spanky.

[@DarksideSleemo]

That's crazy. The gels reacted to each other just like plastic fishing worms with other lures and the tackle box.

[@roddecker1900]

Going fishing its illeagle use liver bait use lively plasterd worms

[@heywardmorgan4741]

Evan has got to be one of the most talented designers you guys work with, the moment you hear his name, you know its going to be an interesting video. Lord Jeff, how do you not have a spray bottle of water to control O.G. with, the gel on gel action going on while you talked, how inappropriately distracting it could have been. 🤣 ROFLMAO, you guys have a great week.

[@blkmoon33]

Great video as always! I've reloaded for rifle and pistol for many years, but never for shotgun. I would love to know how you figure out your powder load. I'm sure KZbin won't let you do one though. Thanks for the awesome work you guys do.

[@TheSteve1175]

I like the idea of catching the round. Especially with the amazing things that yall shoot.

[@ahumblepoet]

I still want an episode on how y’all all got involved with this. How y’all met and what made you decide to do a gun channel in California of all places.

[@JimYeats]

Well, its based in California because they live and work there, and enjoy firearms. They met at a swingers party back in 04’, and once they discovered Jeffs magic with a camera and Gregs finger wiggle…the rest is…as you say, history.

[@OGsDangerShow]

I saw Jeff in a smoky room, the smell of wine and cheap perfume…

[@CarnivoreRonin]

That was super cool! The plastisol is promising and the lead plate was impressive. I thought it was just a mark at first but it actually burrowed in Thanks!

[@th.burggraf7814]

"...we're gonna get these two a cigarette..." 😂 I like OG's humor. 👌🏻

[@carlubambi5541]

awesome to see the different flite patterns of the slug .I have picked my slugs and I cast my own I use a Diablo slug and experimenting with different alloys to get one as light as possible .Tin is over $8 a lb ,type set lead is good but becomes brittle Bismuth is expensive as hell

[@Mr.Robert1]

How many kids today are going to post something like. " They should have used depleted uranium liking my video game " 🙄 Every kid that compares a video game to real world should be drafted at 18 into the military.

[@carlubambi5541]

@@Mr.Robert1 many out there think the video games are close to reality .God forbid they were to actually see war and what it does in person under the Fascists like my parents did in WW2 where executions too place without any question .bbs were dropped without any accuracy or regard for civilians

[@eugeneallshouse5884]

That was another great video...Evan always is thinking of something to make..I enjoyed it..thanks guys

[@Ryan_the_dawg]

Wow that slug flies beautifully, it's surprising

[@TheRhinestoneHurricane]

Thanks ☺

[@JoeHTX]

That was a fantastic tarp you used! LOL Good video of the stator slugs and the 124gr Speer Gold Dot shots were good to see. That's the round I carry and it was good to see you use it for a couple of shots!

[@mybackhurts7020]

The yellow “ taofledermaus” gel also holds the cavity more so that you can see the damage more effectively

[@miken966]

I can't be the only one that laughed out-loud when OG re-enacted the gel-blocks getting busy. Hilarious stuff.

[@jong2359]

I feel like the plastisol tells me more about what the projectile does than the ballistic gel. I say keep using it.

[@taofledermaus]

lol

[@thrillhill1253]

OG is a huge kid 😆 I lost it when he started wiggling the gel block! Thanks for the laughs gentlemen. ❤️

[@gvii]

The Plastisol is a winner as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, it may not be a perfect replacement for the gel, but it's definitely close enough. It's enough to give you a very good idea of what's going on, while saving you a crap load of money. Until that last video, I had no idea that stuff was that bloody expensive. Granted, I don't know how difficult/expensive it is to make, so I'm not commenting on the company that makes it. But for what you're doing, that kind of money is a bit nuts to be spending. It's one thing if you're doing some kind of testing for the military or whatnot, where you want the results to be as close to real life as possible. On the other hand, knowing what it costs is kind of irritating when you think about where they get the money from, but that's a whole other subject for a different time. For what you're doing, the Plastisol is way more than adequate. Especially if you can get a few more uses out of it before it turns to mud. Very, very cool stuff. Edit: Plus, it's nice you don't have to fart around with the stuff melting in the nuclear sun out there in the, um, accelerator testing facility....

[@taofledermaus]

I don't yet know how the Plastisol will RE-cast. There's still a lot to learn about cooking 19lbs of the stuff.

[@ObservationofLimits]

@@taofledermaus plastisol should recast fine if it's essentially the same stuff for soft plastic baits. You should be able to adjust the "toughness" (how soft/squishy it is) as well. I don't recall the exact chemical adjustments though. I can't remember off the top of my head, but you should be able to get 5-gal pails of the main component of soft plastic for pretty damn cheap. Dig around in some fishing forums. I could have swore there was a cheap homebrew gel recipe too that was relatively cheap.

[@ObservationofLimits]

@@taofledermaus yea I think it's glycerine (glycerol?) with gelatin (gives it more of the rubbery stretch ability compared to straight gelatin).

[@greenbudkelly2820]

I really wanted to see the armature hit a clay block. The armature penetration in the plastisol was even more impressive after seeing the 9mm comparison between Plastisol and Gel. Great work guys, keep it up.

[@Gunbudder]

i think the plastisol looks really good. it would be interesting to see a side by side of FBI standard ballistic gel with the plastisol. i imagine you could get the plastisol to match the standard gel's specs. i've always been told that ballistic gel is really only useful to comparing rounds to each other within the context of the same standardized gel mix. if you could get plastisol to match that standard, then you could also compare plastisol to existing data for ballistic gel (the classic comparison of 7.62 from an AKM vs 5.56 from an M4 comes to mind). Not that is really matters, but i think it would fun lol

[@scottinWV]

I really appreciate how people send in their slugs for you to test. Keeps it interesting.

[@taofledermaus]

It sure does! thanks

[@martineastburn3679]

Nice. I think the Plastisol shows more data as it is firmer and denser.

[@paulstan9828]

Looks pretty good my first guess is they will fly straight.

[@Josh-ym4dl]

Ty guy's for still doing this it's awesome!

[@titanuranus]

I'm thinkin' that "Team Yellow" is going to be showing up in an increasing number of Taofledermaus videos. And that is NOT a bad thing, not at all.

[@jrwill58]

Hi guys! I came across one of Hickok45 videos shooting 410 slugs from a Pistol.(Governor) A short barrelled revolver. I would love to see you guys do a video where you shoot a variety of Slugs and/or Buckshot at all your favorite targets. Im always looking forward to your next video. Keep doing what you do!

[@CapablePimento]

so each one of those laminated plates was stamped from a piece of sheet metal, ya? Imagine laminating them in a spiral. Would it spin? Or laminate plates with closed holes and a solid plate at the end. Would it blow apart from hydraulic shock and become a bunch of plates? Inquiring minds...

[@taofledermaus]

I haven't mastered cooking it yet.

[@dicaenus]

god damn it bobby. Hank Trill is too catchy! Thank you for always having entertaining uploads.

[@imchris5000]

I bet if you did some digging around aliexpress you could find bare armatures for sale by the thousands

[@scrappydoo7887]

I guarantee it lol everything is on there somewhere 😂

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

I was in the middle of typing just that, but being true to my name, rambled a bit and so you beat me to it lol (I didn't think about using Ali or similar, with my suggestion being going to the motor maker and wanting to buy bare armatures to "custom wind" heh)

[@houstonbaxter5537]

Loved the beginning Jeff, because the info was all there. Thanks for the great video! And so happy you didn't beat yourself up about talking

[@taofledermaus]

thanks

[@houstonbaxter5537]

@@taofledermaus ALSO JEFF, YOU ARE THE ABSOLUTE MVP MAN! YOURE THE ONLY KZbin ACCOUNT TO RESPOND TO MY COMMENTS. IT MAKES MY DAY KNOWING YOU READ WHAT I HAD TO SAY. AS ALWAYS KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK MY MAN, YOURE A TRUE TREASURE

[@joshuagibson2520]

Love the plastisol. Keep using it. I hope it becomes the new standard for all channels that normally use the clear ballistic gel.

[@TheKegtwo]

It will be interesting to see the results of the cooler cast plastisol. Top shooting again OG and top camera work.

[@taofledermaus]

thanks David

[@jonbridge8064]

Another great video. Good to see Brandougson protecting his eyes while quietly contributing to science

[@baccable]

I like the gel substitute. I'm all for watching testing of the other density options if you are willing to try them.

[@lonestar1775]

Hank Trill is hilarious. A buddy turned me on to him a few weeks ago. Great video as always.

[@MackDaddy1994]

The genius. The precision. Just chef's kiss elegant

[@Steve-sd7wk]

I have noticed plastic fishing bait made from plastisol will MELT other plastic baits. I had a Berkley powerbait red salmon egg cluster in a box of Lunker Hunter white maggots, the egg melted a bunch of the maggots into a hot cheese consistency. Thank you for continuing to produce great content.

[@melocomanTV]

This is a great channel I’m happy to have discovered it. No politics no pretension, just fun and informative

[@taofledermaus]

thanks!

[@craigbonell4459]

Hey there just subscribed watched a heap of vids just wanted to say condolences for Danny keep doing what your doing very enjoyable

[@taofledermaus]

thanks Craig

[@craigbonell4459]

Your welcome

[@dominickgaramella6431]

Excellent puns though. Greg is a natural funny dude. Gel hub, hahaha