Generally speaking, while it feels like every nuance of everything has been analyzed to death....I feel like there is a segment of classic bass amps for doom-ish, detuned guitars that has yet to be really explored. The thought came to me when I rammed a rat/rams head pedal combo into an old 70s Acoustic bass amp into a 4x12....it was Brutal! (Note the capital "B") Most of the classic bass amps can be had for a lot less $$ than the 'recognized' doom metal classics. The guitars are being tuned down into bass range anyway, so it makes sense. Anyway, would be interesting to see some classic bass amps 're-invigorated' to heavy gtr amps.
@ashgonza929 ай бұрын
guitars through bass amps are nice
@gringogreen47199 ай бұрын
@@ashgonza92 Yup, Marshall started as a UK derivative of a Fender Bassman, so there you go.🤔
@erikberg83529 ай бұрын
Gallien Krueger makes good solid state bass amps for guitar work. The drive channel is iconic for bass, but serves a guitar very well as the EQs foci are shifted to doomy areas. And their cabs and combos emphasize 10" speakers & tweeters/horns, so they are tight and punchy for low end work.
@theseaward46139 ай бұрын
you really think that has not been explored? Even boomers do it!
@AvtarGlenn9 ай бұрын
Abso-fucking-lutely my man. I currently have a first gen Sunn Concert Bass into an orange 4x12, using a Gibson Les Paul tuned to standard B, all through an Abominable Electronics Demon Lung pedal and it’s heavy and loud as a fucking dump truck.
@mddmax7969 ай бұрын
That vid is fire, just what I needed. Could you please make a video on cabinets too? Diving into their frequency responses and records they were used in.
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
great idea!
@jpistolas9 ай бұрын
Oddly enough, my doom/stoner amp is an older Mesa DC-5. Crank all the knobs on the lead ch & adjust the geq. Love that amp! Does that COC thing like none else.
@edward95719 ай бұрын
DC-5 is 100% Mesa's most underrated amp. Definitely regret letting mine go years back.
@thechrisricci7 ай бұрын
Those amps are very doomy with all of the knobs cranked. The low end is pretty loose. Also insanely loud.
@TheDorkKnight2310 ай бұрын
I Doom metal on a budget. I have a CR-120 solid state I use the clean channel exclusively turned up to where it has break up but still fairly clean. Late 90’s Sunn O))) fender reissue 412. (Yes I know it’s Sunn in name only for the purists out there) with most of my tone coming from my Pedal board of Doom covering most of my tone. HM-2 for my distortion tone and a custom Fuzz pedal for the more groovy parts. With delays and modulation pedals to round out the effects.
@mtlmark759 ай бұрын
Cr120 and super crush are fantastic doom amps!
@erikberg83529 ай бұрын
The solid state Orange amps are great with an EQ pedal (or 2) in the effects loop to contour the fuzz/overdrive that comes out of the Dirty channel. The Clean channel is a great pedal platform with a lot of headroom. And from a practical perspective, they are affordable, durable, and orange ;-)
@darksu69479 ай бұрын
I doom on a budget smaller than that! Orange Micro Dark through a Vox 1x10. It's the doomyest doom to ever doom! 😂
@jamesstonehouse344810 күн бұрын
I just love the sound of the OR120 . On the edge of breakup it works so well with fuzz pedals
@FuzzlordEffects10 ай бұрын
Come talk pedals and amps on the Fuzzlord Discord Server at discord.gg/XPgv2AU5
@plantesounds88369 ай бұрын
I play a Hilbish Beta Amplifier 200. Based on the beta lead bass. I actually use it as a pedal platform, and am very happy with it. I’ve chosen it over an Orange CR120 and Rockerverb 50(both of which I’ve owned). I did like the CR120 a lot, but the low end on the Hilbish is fuller. Possibly because it’s based on the bass version. I’ve had a vintage Beta Lead before and loved it too. I feel like I’m in the minority that’s actually excited Sunn is rebooting with the beta series first. Hoping they turn out to be good and readily available.
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
Hilbish is so badass!
@jmstep679 ай бұрын
I've played through a Beta Lead one time, and it was crushing. Very loud and a really nice unique distortion flavor. I would love to see more solid-state gear on a list like this!
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
Maybe next one can be all solid state!
@watcherzero00010 ай бұрын
One amp I really like is the one that Jimmy Bower plays sometime which is the Ampeg SS150H. A lot of death and doom bands used those back in the 90's.
@FuzzlordEffects10 ай бұрын
Didn’t know that!!
@guycorbin66319 ай бұрын
I just picked up a RG100ES and adore it for doom. I’ve got the AOR50 as well but that bass boost gets to browntown real quick.
@lordmanhammer6669 ай бұрын
On a similar note, I don't think it was mentioned yet but a Fender 350 rumble either combo or head really burns for a bass amp. Although a solid state amp it's definitely a slept on for it's power.
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
bass amps work so well!
@hogie12599 ай бұрын
A couple of amps I’ve had experience with that would absolutely NOT usually be considered for doom: EVH 5150III EL34 50watt blue channel. Most of the thrash and death metal guys hate the blue channel on the EVH EL34 because it’s so loose and bass heavy. Cranked up on the gain and noonish on the eq controls. Another amp is the Marshall DSL20HR. Due to it being a cathode biased amp , it’s got a looser feel and the fizziness of the amp gives it a fuzz type tone . Again, gain up, bass up, treble and mids around noon.
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
great amps cheers!
@groseromedia9 ай бұрын
70s Peavey SFS Roadmaster.... Still to this day insanely underrated. If you can find one - get it.
@leegollin441710 ай бұрын
I used to see the Ampeg v4 quite often in the late 90’s early 2000’s. Not sure if I missed it but what about the Marshall Plexi. I’ve seen it with more bands than any other amp.
@FuzzlordEffects10 ай бұрын
Great amp!
@scottdavidson60669 ай бұрын
Also, Orange Rockerverb & Super Crush 100.
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@mingthemerciless8869 ай бұрын
Sound city 120, the electric wizard amp. I've got 3 of them, loudest amp I've ever heard and my usual amp is an orange thunderverb 200.
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
3 of them thats so badass!
@mingthemerciless8869 ай бұрын
@@FuzzlordEffects had to get the full set. An L120, B120 and a 120R which is pretty rare. Guy I got it off got it totally gone over, new reverb tank and recovered it in slime green tolex. Looks cool.
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
And in green?!?!? Badass!!
@Dan-O-mite9 ай бұрын
I'm using a Jim Root terror with EMG 81 boosted with a Rat. It dooms like hell
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
hell yeah!
@thatsharakiri1788 ай бұрын
yo didnt expect goth money records in a doom metal amp list what the hell shoutout bro
@FuzzlordEffects8 ай бұрын
😬
@meeker5149 ай бұрын
I've never seen anyone else use it but the Sunn Concert Lead is a phenomenal 200 watt solid state amp. Distorts a bit with the distortion switch on if you have really hot pickups, but it shines with something like a DOD 250 or a fuzz in front of it. The clean setting takes pedals normally but the distortion setting takes them unlike every other amp I've played. It's a real sleeper in my opinion. I've been able to do everything from doom, to sludge, to shred on it with the right pedal combos.
@jacobwalker8565Ай бұрын
This amp is basically the sound of Jeff the Brotherhood.
@AaronEvces9 ай бұрын
You mentioned the 100w supergroup. I will say I’m very pleased with the 30w re-introduction of the supergroup.
@J0hnSell10 ай бұрын
Black Kray fan?! And i thought the fuzzlord couldn't be any doper 🤘🕊
@FuzzlordEffects10 ай бұрын
🤠
@chris_baritone10 ай бұрын
I own a mid-70s Ampeg V4 that, sadly, is in need of repairs because I don't think it liked being cranked too high while being plugged into a Two Notes Captor X (100W RMS limit). But for the few hours that it was working, it sounded like Blues For The Red Sun just plugging straight in with no pedals. It made my stock Epi SG Custom sound better than it ever had to my ears. There is a local shop near me that has a 1st gen Sunn Model T with a price tag of $4000, and I'm not gonna lie, whether or not that's way too much for that amp, it's what I'm thinking about while I do OT at work.... 👀
@zeblackcat939810 ай бұрын
I only have really used amp sims so far besides my lil orange crush 12 combo lol but tried a couple of the Model T and Beta Lead, and they definitely deserve the spots. Definitely also interested in the Matamp. From the demos I've heard and the aesthetics, it seems like all I'd need in an amp haha
@br00talbr00skeez9 ай бұрын
I love the SunnO))) beta lead but the amp I currently use and love is the orange supercrush 100. Solid state rulez!
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
I keep wanting to pick one up for the channel!!! Seems like a badass amp 🔊
@rk2898410 ай бұрын
A band we share the rehearsal room with has an Orange OR120, when I tried it out and I was a bit underwhelmed. It's not that loud, my AOR 30 is very compareable volumewise, sounds good but nothing spectacular. The same thing happened wehn I teid out a Randall RG 100ES. So I have to admit, for me the Laney AOR is the best Doom amp out there.
@cavanray67429 ай бұрын
I use a joyo splinter into a peavey bandit for sludgy stoner sounds, and the lead channel in high gain mode set to 11 o'clock kicks ass for non-stoner doom and post-metal. I was playing some pentagram last night on the lead channel and it smoked. I believe there is a head version of the bandit called the transtube supreme. I love this channel, and stoner doom is great, but i wish you'd acknowledge other genres of doom.
@CadaverHead9 ай бұрын
My favorite and current doom amp is a Matamp GT120 non master volume for both guitar and bass. This amp rips with a Big Muff style pedal.
@travis4310 ай бұрын
Matt Talbot of Hum uses a OR120. Hum is not a doom band, but check out the song The Summoning. Very doomy. The other guitarist Tim Lash uses the Hiwatt. Both run them clean and uses pedals to drive them into OD/ dist.
@FuzzlordEffects10 ай бұрын
I’ll check them out cheers!
@denverrandy71439 ай бұрын
@@FuzzlordEffectsHums album "Inlet" is great. Love the song "in the Den" 👍
@Tyrannosaurine2 ай бұрын
Downward is Heavenward is a great album. Hum=Floor, but more 90s
@gringogreen47199 ай бұрын
Question, any good amps outside of guitar amps that would be good for Doom Metal? Bass amps? Keyboard amps? PAs?🤔
@pedrolourenco27076 ай бұрын
As much as I love the Orange/Matamp family there are two important missings: the Marshall Plexi, which can beat any of those amps as long as you know how to set the knobs and the 5150 in the green channel (crunch mod), amazing beast!
@AJ-wh1tw9 ай бұрын
I’m sad that I recently had to part with my AOR 50 (though not as much as I could have been, since they’ve gotten a whole lot more popular than they were back when bought it). Definitely my favorite doom amp. For the biggest possible tone, my secret was usually running a stereo set up with my drive blend, octave, chorus, and occasionally wah into a clean Super crush 100 with the second running straight into the front of the AOR 50 cranked within an inch of its life and my stereo time effects in both loops. That AOR on its own was the nastiest thing I could throw down and will remain one of the most fun to play.
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
I bet you got a lot more than you paid for it! Such an amazing amp that didn’t get enough attention until the last couple of years. Would take one over a JCM800 any day 🔥
@craignesbitt78569 ай бұрын
I would check out the Traynor YBA-1 (40 watts) or YBA-3 (100 watts) from the 70's They are loosely based on a Mashall Plexi/Fender Bassman but built to handle rigours of touring across Canada. They have their own tone due to the transformers they use and have a nice fuzzy overdrive when driven hard
@mikerauter185910 ай бұрын
The Crate GX130C is killer amp for doom Jason
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
cheers Mike!
@MrBeauChat9 ай бұрын
Holy shit! This was my second amp that i got new back in ‘95. i got a 7-string RG IBANEZ with Floyd rose stuck EMG 707 in there. Got a fuzz factory back in ‘98 and that was my sound for the next 20 years. First time i heard someone mention this amp in any context. the “mid shape/ tone control” on the drive channel was versatile af. deep scooped mids all the way to QOTSA. i broke my reverb spring in it and had it replaced. The shop told me it was an expensive replacement and i didnt care. but it ended being the best fuckin reverb i ever heard and been chasing that reverb in a pedal form for about 20 years. Yeah my doom machine has the most godlike reverb lol
@wesmitchem8259 ай бұрын
Id add the Peavey vtm 120 and butcher and ampeg lee Jackson hell even a crate blue voodoo can get you there
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
blue voodoo is such a loud amp! Great choice
@xeverettx25644 ай бұрын
Two side notes, if you’re a bass player I highly recommend using the Sunn concert slave for each speaker stack you run. I run 3 stacks an acoustic 370 and a fender Bassman with matching two 12 and 2x15 JBL version to and and 2 ampeg 4x12 bass cabs so that coliseum give me plenty of extra power to drive all three stacks. Plus maintaining the tube sound via the Bassman. To get that poor white trash budget NOLA sound everyone down there used in the 90’s I know jimmy bowers used the RG100 solid state head and a fully cranked up BOSS super overdrive pedal to get his sound in eyehategod. Which we all know is the filthiest most swampy southern sound there is.
@theseaward46139 ай бұрын
i LOVE the hiwatts 😍
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
such nice amps!
@liamfernandez14579 ай бұрын
I’m looking at getting a gigging amp for my doom/sludge metal project. Budget is around $1000. preferably combo. looking at the orange rocker 32 or the hi watt t40/20 combo. have a solid pedal setup already from abominable electronics. let me know any recommendations! I’m a drummer first so I’m still learning about gear on this side of the world.
@j-day4 ай бұрын
Hey Jason, how do you think a Laney Lionheart 50w head and cab would go for doom using pedals? There is a really good deal on the head and cab as a set locally. Haven’t had a chance to play yet. Cab is closed back loaded with 4 x G12 H 75hz heritage speakers. The thing I’m not sure about - the amp is class A 50w, so takes 5 EL34’s. Being class A and less efficient amps I am guessing the tubes would not have the longevity of those in class AB amps? I don’t know. Sounds good in demos but haven’t seen any with fuzz/distortion pedals. What do you reckon?
@daverunion75649 ай бұрын
Orange Thunderverb 50...Orange Super Crush... Mesa/Boogie 50 caliber
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
great amp!
@leeneal269017 күн бұрын
Nathan Mills from HengeWytch plays one of these. It’s brutal.
Do you have any recommendations for a bedroom guitarist?
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
I’m thinking we’ll do another amp video with all bedroom amp choices, as well as going a video where I just use a small practice amp and see how good of a tone we can get out of it 🔊
@jamesrankin89 ай бұрын
@@FuzzlordEffects Looking forward to it!
@cavanray67429 ай бұрын
If you like saggy and loose but need it at bedroom volumes I suggest a roland/boss with tube logic. The best for that situation is the blues cube hot, despite the name it absolutely will doom with the right pedals hitting it, just know it breaks up quickly. Other options would be the nextone or katana. Cheaper, but tone wise the blues cube destroys them. All have a 12 inch speaker.
@brownie40329 ай бұрын
My doom setup is just a big muff into a hot rod, hopefully one day I’ll own a Hiwatt though
@BruisBronk8 ай бұрын
Goth Money Records shirt is so fire 🔥
@FuzzlordEffects8 ай бұрын
😬
@JamesSClapperton9 ай бұрын
Good luck “picking up” that V4, man. Mine weighs damn near 90lbs. 😂. I’ve had a vt-22 for decades and thought if I got a head it would be easier to tote around. I was very very wrong.
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
Good point haha!
@Drust4928 күн бұрын
I have the possibility of having a Randall RG75 (don't know my series) what is it worth comparing to the RG80ES and RG100?
@in.der.welt.sein.13 күн бұрын
Yeah, basically the same preamp with a few tweaks.
@morrinsville2310 ай бұрын
My buddy had a green, and a matamp Black, i dont believe green was made for peter green as matamp made amps in a number of colours, they did, white and red as well, they created orange but sold that to another company
@Tydorfz9 ай бұрын
i’ve been rocking a Peavey VTM60 and a Roland JC120 for a while and it does the trick
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
hell yeah!
@clappingjazzhands94089 ай бұрын
Sunn 200s & 2x15 cab.
@willy42-039 ай бұрын
PEAVEY BASS MARK IV
@maurobelarde852710 ай бұрын
I needed this video. I have not seen it yet, but surely I'll have a lot of questions. Could you help me? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@FuzzlordEffects10 ай бұрын
The discord folks sure would like to talk about amps with ya! Thanks for watching 🙏
@maurobelarde852710 ай бұрын
@@FuzzlordEffects Thank you! ☺️☺️☺️
@MrBeauChat9 ай бұрын
I wonder what the best doom amps are for an apartment/ low volume situation.
@rogierWV9 ай бұрын
I'm quite enjoying my Vox Lil Night Train into a ported 1x12, low volume but sounds surprisingly big.
@cavanray67429 ай бұрын
Oddly enough the blues cube hot does this well. Very loose and saggy, goes down to 0.5w and responds to pedals like a tube amp.
@GreatCosmicWebs10 ай бұрын
I have a Vox AC-30 (that I'm trying to sell for $1000 if anyone's interested) that sounds great for doom, IMO. Running a Ram's Head into it gets you all the warmth you could ask for.
@Cara-Calico9 ай бұрын
Slomosa and 1000Mods both play Green Matamps
@burzumaargh5 ай бұрын
Randall RG series
@FuzzlordEffects5 ай бұрын
I’ll have to check one out for the channel sometime!
@mykneeshurt839310 ай бұрын
Fun video.
@FuzzlordEffects10 ай бұрын
🙏🤠
@bobsbigboy_9 ай бұрын
DOOM ASMR
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
🙏
@eddiespectral9 ай бұрын
Something cheaper for home?
@FuzzlordEffects9 ай бұрын
Check out the budget amps video from a few weeks back I think you’ll dig it!
@eddiespectral9 ай бұрын
@@FuzzlordEffects I just need 1 watt amp, but with that death-doom sound.
@Superchild889 ай бұрын
I literally had that Beta Lead in my watch list. Sadly it got away from me
@bjquebedeaux35979 ай бұрын
ACID BATH!!
@alastairriddell55363 ай бұрын
Marshall 2203, either jcm or jmp is THE doom amp.
@FuzzlordEffects3 ай бұрын
Nahhhh
@alastairriddell55363 ай бұрын
@FuzzlordEffects definitely. Trouble, vitus, candlemass, even wizard now.
@FuzzlordEffects3 ай бұрын
You win this round ha! Cheers dude
@Swallow_The_Moon9 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Thurston8610 ай бұрын
🤘👽👽👽
@FuzzlordEffects10 ай бұрын
🙏
@AIC6810 ай бұрын
🤘😈🤘🔥🔥🔥
@Starch1b2c3d4a9 ай бұрын
Very generic doom amp list bro. Any amp can doom. Its a orange tiny terror or a mesa mark iii for me