Accuracy wow if that were mine it would be going back🤣 but on the up can’t wait for upgrades 😁
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
yes it's not great but it will be in the end😁
@mrmactknifeАй бұрын
Shocking accuracy for a rifle that costs 700 quid! Looking forward to seeing you work your magic on it. CZ barrel, and an in-house produced suppressor/shroud perhaps? :)
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
😁 thank you for watching 😀
@Marcus1954sАй бұрын
Looking forward to a conversion. I was going to buy one but instantly disliked how the breech was disproportionately thinner than the cylinder over the barrel, ruining the lines/overall look for me. Didn't know whether the internals could be reproduced, on my small lathe, to fit a slimmer cylinder and new rifled barrel. It is screaming for a nice wooden stock, and certainly an Air Arms style stock would be super. Shame about dovetails being so short. I imagine 2 or 3 spacers along barrel would help nullify harmonics/POI change.
@gsmith1418Ай бұрын
I’ve installed the hp plenum and huma reg to mine. Just a little more tuning and it’s a lot more efficient and quieter
@MyAirgunPhaseАй бұрын
Ooh, I'm excited about about the "shorty" version, that should look fantastic, please do!
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 😀 we are going to try 😀
@skalliwag2766Ай бұрын
Great review as always, one thing good about most fx rifles is the synthetic stock make them very light, which would be great to carry around when hunting, it was nice to meet you both at the daystate experience days 😊
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
yes it is very light and easy to shoot 😀 it was good to meet you too👍
@2speed818Ай бұрын
Can't wait for the upgrades on this one
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
yes this should be a good one if we can get some bits 😀 thank you for watching 🙏
@dgw07Ай бұрын
I use a Allen Key to rotate the magazine , then hold it to install the pellets as the mag system can be a tad fiddly to rotate with it being a mini mag
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
good tip 😀
@Tim_BassettАй бұрын
Lovely looking rifle, although I think you are being too kind around the accuracy :-) I also think its a 1k rifle when you factor in the pic rail, which is almost a must have........however, a nice fair review on a rifle which has so much promise.....looking forward to the series.
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
i know what you mean but this one is at the bottom end of the scale, had we have got the all singing all dancing one i would not be happy
@PaulSmith-jr1qeАй бұрын
Cracking video as always and you tell it as it is unlike the FX fanboy promoters who claim everything FX is the most accurate thing on the planet, don't get me wrong I think FX come up with some of the most innovative mix of design features around. I have an Impact M3 and it shoots like a laser beam but it took a lot of work and money to make it do that a lot of which was following your advice with a new HFT 500 barrel and an Airmarksman Backbone to make it rigid. I don't know anyone who has had success with the drinking straw liner barrel on any sub 12 rifle, most people I know are very dissapointed at the accuracy for what is normally an expensive bit of kit.
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
i would agree with you, i love my m3 but you need to make it work properly to get the best out of it
@Nicholas-im8bd20 күн бұрын
My m3 was a laser out of the box. When i say one hole at 50y... it would put a jsb right in the exact same spot the last one went. You couldnt tell if you actually shot another shot. two or ten shots.. all in the same spot. 75y group opened toi a ragged hole.. 100y the pellets began to spiral and open up to a 2-3" area. Going to slugs for knock down power and consistency over 75y is when things got difficult. But i think people THINK thbey need these mods to shoot slugs at distance.... but in my experience, the modifications had me chasing my tail more than anything. Back to how the gun came and back to the basics... she shoots light 32-34g slugs like a laser. It doesnt and never did need any of the money into parts you think it did. I will say... some liners you get from them are flat shit. they love their stamped barrel liners but i believe they are incredibly inconsistent. Its a lottery... sometimes you win sometimes you lose
@PaulSmith-jr1qe19 күн бұрын
@@Nicholas-im8bd glad you had a better experience than me.
@recklessjunkieАй бұрын
I'm dying to see the barrel liner and shroud matt showed a glimpse and it seems different more ridged because of having to separate liner from air cylinder and something about keeping it free floating they had to come up with something interesting maybe a follow-up on that nobody's shown that yet...
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
yes we will be showing it all soon 😀
@JohnHarrison-yh8vjАй бұрын
Looking forwards to the barrel change Video, would like to purchase.
@briancare1Ай бұрын
Looking forward to see the a compact version.
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
if we can get the parts it should be very neat 😀
@secondfirstsecondАй бұрын
And still using the famous FX "the garbage" trigger.
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
🤣 thank you for watching 🙏
@Rory-p5sАй бұрын
A great honest review as always. I was hoping you would get a DRS to work your magic on. Ive recently bought one in .22 and from the reviews ive seen they weirdly seem to be grouping better than the .177. I bought the darc single shot loader and jb3d adjustable extended butt hook both from ebay which has vastly improved the accuracy of the rifle. Keep up the great work i can't wait to see the upgrades planned and hopefully some might find there way into your ebay shop🙏🏻
@mikebird8290Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing sir. Your videos are so valuable as to all the correct information you share with us. I am really enjoying mine in 177 sub 12. I can't wait for the saber tactical stock soon to be on the market and my rifle. I will also be getting myself the carbon shroud which can then be filled to 250bar. Take care hope you have a great week 🎯🇬🇧👍🏼
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 🙏
@thehaze1972Ай бұрын
Liked the design so I bought an Artemis M30 a couple of years ago, might try and make a new barrel for it because it shoots worse than this gun but not to bad for the money. Thanks for sharing another interesting review. Big thumbs up. 👍
@Marcus1954sАй бұрын
I would check the brass thimble at the breech, the leade, rifling and crown first. Even with Chinese barrels I find that most faults are easily fixed with deburring/polishing.
@thehaze1972Ай бұрын
@@Marcus1954s Yeah, all my Artemis airguns shoots quite well apart from the P18 which is really bad and the M30 does also need some help. 😁
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 🙏
@milesrudge465Ай бұрын
Great analysis as always. Looking forward to the modifications 👏
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
Coming soon 😀
@xWILZTAxАй бұрын
These peaked my interest but after that accutacy testing im staying well clear from this like all other fx models. They are truely awful groupings.
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thanks for watching 🙏
@rayingles1Ай бұрын
Honest review thankyou
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 🙏
@ianprice000Ай бұрын
Great video. Not sure if it is a design fault but one thing I am hearing is the DRS can lose power over time. Having had a look at a friends, there doesnt seem to be any locking screw on the hammer spring adjuster. Over time as he was shooting it the vibration caused the HS adjuster to move and, because it is under pressure from the spring, it was slowly unwinding itself. Maybe he just got unlucky with his ????
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
we will have a look mate, we are just putting led through it at the moment to give it's best chance😀 it is supper consistent at the moment though
@steveolkinevilАй бұрын
Smart rifle but ill definitely be sticking with my old S410
@PBazBarrett11 күн бұрын
Nice one man, great video once again..
@sub12airgunners11 күн бұрын
Appreciate that
@jb37577 күн бұрын
FX is the Apple(smartphone) of the airgun industry. Your videos are awesome though, wish you were in a FAC country.
@sub12airgunnersКүн бұрын
thank you and tanks for watching
@jp8351Ай бұрын
nice review👍, always good to see a review outside of the usual FX youtube crowd 😋. I did see in other videos that the drs does not like every pellet, maybe some ammo change would add to that grouping. some questions if you don't mind. did you experience any low shots after resting the rifle? also does the maverick magazine fit with the picatinny mounted?
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
no low first shot on this one and the maverick / crown mag will not fit with the low pic rail fitted 😀 thank you for watching 🙏
@thomaswebb3043Ай бұрын
Looking forward to want you two do this one :) I have tried a club members DRS and really can't say i like the stock it's to short for me :( Was great speaking with you both at the Daystate/BRK Days.
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 😀 it was nice meeting you too
@AirgunfunrichАй бұрын
Good honest review as always. Look forward to any future videos on this 👍
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 😀
@shaunjones6049Ай бұрын
Fx consistency. Consistently bad , On all models out of the box shocking ☹️ £700 for tin can gun😳
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
the consistency is good on this one 😀
@shaunjones6049Ай бұрын
Accuracy at 30yrds is just not good enough, if a rifle can’t shoot straight. 🤔 what’s the point of owning it? ? I can’t see many people buying this product to shoot tin cans. Are Fx marketing this rifle as a fun gun / toy? Hopefully they aren’t marketing it as a hunting rifle. Punching paper is one thing, watching a rabbit with a smashed jaw trying to feed is another. Consistency? 🙄. Accuracy , Accuracy, Accuracy, =consistency.
@BadlydrawnBenАй бұрын
I was wanting one of these but after watching this video it just doesn't perform as well as my MK1 FX verminator 😢
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
it's not great but may get a little better with a bit more use
@BadlydrawnBenАй бұрын
@@sub12airgunners to be honest I'm really surprised by the grouping my little verminator groups at 50 yards like this one groups at 50 I honestly expected it to be a tack driver 😕
@pete7894Ай бұрын
what is the diameter of fx drs barrel in .25/700mm ? please
@krisgater6891Ай бұрын
Another great video and one I've been watching out for so thank you..I'm interested to see the improvements you can make to it, as I'm thinking of going for one..The trigger needs sorting can't understand why FX hasn't resolved the sticky trigger. Anyway thank you for the video and looking forward to the next one about the DRS..
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
Thank you very much!
@krisgater6891Ай бұрын
@@sub12airgunners Can I ask you a question please..I'm a huge fan of yours and I really enjoy your work..relating to the DRS rifle..Do you think the rifle could be improved if it was worked on by one of the Tuning companies and would it be worth doing? Your opinion would be welcomed. Thanks
@toxlaximus3297Ай бұрын
I'll probably get some stick for this but can you use a bipod stud on that synthetic stock?
@sub12airgunners27 күн бұрын
yes it's not a problem if fitted properly
@chrisfigueroa3361Ай бұрын
Awesome video thanks for your honest review on the air gun thanks for sharing be safe buddy 💯
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 🙏
@myadventureman2636Ай бұрын
FX nice...❤ it
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 🙏
@krisgater6891Ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question..On the rifle did you find the magazine tight when you inserted it into the rifle? Thanks again..
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
yes it's very tight and we only have the one o ring on our one
@ads34532 күн бұрын
@@sub12airgunners have you tried unloading some pellets that have been loaded by the mag ? Could it be the magazine which is affecting the pellets
@sub12airgunners2 күн бұрын
@@ads3453 yes we did rod pellets back out and the mag does damage some for sure but we do try ssl as well
@jeffhello144417 күн бұрын
nice one 😁😁
@wsmc8275Ай бұрын
Trigger assembly looks slightly different then the Panthera.
@kevintravis2154Ай бұрын
Makes more sense than the over priced Pro
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 🙏
@danielcooper175Ай бұрын
Air arms diablo field pellet wise perform the best, but these really like slugs. I have never liked FX after buying the mk1 crown that was terrible but these group well and accurate but quite pellet fussy
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
we did try aa diablo and express but the jsb seemed better
@Marcus2233Ай бұрын
Jesus them groups aint great, i used mine at 40 yards with a 3x9 scope which i could barely see the target using jsb heavys and got better groups 🤔 switched to a longer scope now so will try a proper group next outing, i went for the grade 1 walnut, fantastic looking rifle, looking forward to see what work you do to it and maybe try the heavys again, my t12 and drs both like em, seems to be a fx thing, got a link or name for the gauge cover ?, hate the chrome
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
we are still bedding it all in so i hope they get a little better
@zebedee4Ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. Interesting. Got to admit if that was mine I'd be a little disappointed with those results. As already said £750 ish isn't the end of of it when you add on the pic rail etc. Probably better to save up another £2 ,£300 quid and buy something better or buy secondhand and buy something far superior.
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
yes it's not as good as we were expecting but it is what it is, had i have got the all singing one i would not be happy
@memememe2674Ай бұрын
Are you still going to do a vid on the ATF Vixen? Or has it lost interest now it's been out a good while?
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
no still going to do one 😁
@garymurphy5133Ай бұрын
@@sub12airgunners Brill,been waiting for that too. i really need to see your strip video for the vixen.
@doomfathertm8771Ай бұрын
Wait what, that accuracy is TERIBLE!! I know it's not the shooter, he is very capable, the accuracy from that gun is terrible, I'm shocked.
@OriginalMarkyBoyАй бұрын
It’s an FX 👍🏽
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
🤣🤣
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
yes it's not great but we are still bedding it all in so may get a little better
@Esoxlucius51Ай бұрын
Mine is like a laser! Just 'cos his isn't accurate ( yet) doesn't make all of them so.and I don't use JSB pellets - too many fliers, so I use H& N ftts or Daystate kaisers( same thing).btw, this is the first FX I've ever owned - I have Daystate, Airarms and weirauch pcps - and what I call the best springer I've ever had,a hw98.
@doomfathertm8771Ай бұрын
@@Esoxlucius51 maybe he didn't use the best pellets for that rifle then.
@andrewworley8946Ай бұрын
Budget? 😂😂😂
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
from the big names this is very budget you can't get anything from AA, Bsa, Daystate, brk, Weihrauch
@ahmadfakhrie9351Ай бұрын
Nice ❤❤👍👍👍
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 🙏
@user-bp7li5yj4kАй бұрын
Nice review of a shotgun 🤨
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
🤣
@ads34532 күн бұрын
This is what irritates me about rifle manufactures. If they had been honest and called it a junior rifle or been clear about its limitations regarding accuracy I would be fine about it. However they didn’t. Every video I have seen this rifle being used you sit there and question the inconsistency in accuracy. I also wouldn’t call £750 a budget rifle considering you can get a HW110 for the same kind of money and that is a lot more accurate. I will be interested to see if you can resolve the issues with a stiffer barrel / liner as I suspect it is due to the change in pressure or other compromise they have had to make which is causing the issues.
@andycarp1288Ай бұрын
Hi nice video as always but seriously the way that performed is terrible I’ve got an FX Typhoon which shoot’s better than that so I’m shocked that FX have turned out a gun that performs so badly & having seen lots of your videos I know it’s not your shooting that made this gun look bad ,look forward to see if the upgrades make any improvements.
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
yes it's a shame but we will make it better 😀 thank you for watching 😀
@nicksamsunggalaxys2404Ай бұрын
already seen the accuracy was not good on this rifle on a couple other channels to be honest I would never buy an fx...Agt, epic, krait all day long
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
yes agt, airmaks are very good
@nicksamsunggalaxys2404Ай бұрын
@@sub12airgunners i saw another vid saying how tight the stock is put on to the action can help with harmonics aiding accuracy hope it helps
@user-rs3ky4em9nАй бұрын
How much nob
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
😂
@Piupiu68azАй бұрын
🏆 I'm sorry
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 🙏
@petenikolic5244Ай бұрын
PCP zero interest
@horshamheatingАй бұрын
👍👍
@sub12airgunnersАй бұрын
thank you for watching 🙏
@horshamheatingАй бұрын
@@sub12airgunners Always enjoy your vids mate very well put together and clear and your unbiased opinion is a treat.
@ChasingMasons11 күн бұрын
Get a 2nd hand weirauch. Doesn't matter which one.